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In order of cause of loss: too small env., poor
nutrition, jumping out
Red Coris Wrasse Question, hlth.
Hello crew. I am purchasing a medium, changing to adult colors,
3-4" Red Coris Wrasse, collected from the Fiji Islands. My
question is concerning acclimation. I own 4 large aquariums, and 2, 40
gallon long quarantine tanks. The Wrasse is going into an 96"x
36" x 36" acrylic aquarium with a 6" DSB (fine sand),
300 pounds of live rock, dual Blueline 100 main pumps, 8, Koralia
4's for internal water movement, Aquamaxx Cone 3 skimmer, dual 20
gallon refugium's and 100 gallon sump. I was wondering if you
suggest that I add Him directly to the display, since it is ideal for
him with the fine sand, and large living quarters, or put him in a 40
gallon long with a bare bottom to quarantine.
<A very good question... my response: "it
The large tank, after the Red Coris, is terminally stocked with the
following: 5" Queen Angelfish, 4" Miniatus Grouper, 3"
Scribbled Rabbitfish, 4" Porcupine Puffer, 3" Green Bird
Wrasse, 3" Pink Faced
Wrasse, 3" Huma Huma Triggerfish, Three, 3" Yellow Tangs. I
would appreciate your advice on this matter.
<The genus Coris (and most of the genera of Labrids) in my
opinion/experience "straddle the line" in terms of whether
it's better to do summary pH-adjusted freshwater (and likely
Formalin and aeration in this
case) baths/dips and placement, vs. any quarantine of length... IF
this/the specimen/s look "good", I'd definitely do the
former... IF they looked ragged, possibly biologically diseased,
I'd do the former AND quarantine. For Coris species (which
don't burrow, sleep under the sand) a bare QT is fine. Bob
Re: Red Coris Wrasse Question 1/8/11
Many thanks for your advice, and the fast response on this matter
<Certainly welcome Howard>
I always enjoy reading your marvelous site, with all of the great
advice that you, and your team, continually provide to us
<And thank you kindly for your courteous acknowledgement. Cheers,
Re: Red Coris Wrasse Question 1/12/11
Hello again crew. I wanted to update you on my new Red Coris Wrasse. He
ate right out of the bag and is doing fabulous.! Many thanks once again
to a group of fellow aquarists who make our hobby a lot less stressful
with your help and dedication.!
<Again welcome Howard. B>
Red Coris Wrasse...Feeds, But Looking Thin --
Hello, it's Jason again with another question.
I purchased a Red Coris Wrasse 3 weeks ago. I have had him in qt since
then and he eats ferociously.....nonstop. I do notice though, that his
head is slightly bony and I can see his spine when he swims around.
I followed the normal procedures that Bob recommends i.e., keeping up
good water quality, vitamin additives, food variety, and well
If this is a nutrient deficiency can I bring him back or is it too
<<I have seen some pretty badly starved fishes brought
'back,' so yes, if the weight loss is from lack of proper
foods/feeding before you acquired it, and not loss due to some other
complaint (e.g. - damage from the collection process) there is a good
chance this fish can recover with plentiful nutritious feedings in a
Shall I do anything else at this point?
<<Do offer this fish some New Life Spectrum pelleted food (highly
nutritious and palatable)'¦and though I'm doubtful this is
a parasitic issue as in my experience all specimens stopped feeding
well before displaying such weight loss as you describe, trying their
'Thera-A' formula can't hurt.
<<Happy to share'¦ EricR>>
Re: Red Coris Wrasse...Feeds, But Looking Thin -- 11/05/10
Thanks a lot Eric.
<<Quite welcome Jason>>
Actually, I soak Mysis shrimp in Selcon and feed....is that just as
good as the New Life Spectrum you were recommending?
<<On its own, no'¦ What you are doing is very good, but
the wrasse needs more variety (as do all your fishes) to truly fulfill
its nutritional requirements. Some would consider the NLS products an
excellent food 'on their own' (have known those who
successfully fed this exclusively to breeding Cichlids, large marine
fishes'¦and of course, Bob's Goldfish). I prefer to use it
in conjunction with other foods (offered daily), and whole-heartedly
recommend any hobbyist to add it to their fish-food pantry as a
nutritious and palatable offering that will increase color and
health/vitality/longevity in any fish that accepts it. EricR>>
R2: Red Coris Wrasse...Feeds, But Looking Thin -- 11/07/10
Definitely not on its own
<<Ah! very good>>
but I meant to plump him up w/high protein and vitamins
but thanks so much for your help, have a good weekend.
<<And you, mate... EricR>>
Hey crew..... 10/14/10
How are you?
I recently purchased a 3.5 inch Red Coris Wrasse and
noticed that he has a swollen belly, not huge, but
definitely a little bloated. Is this normal?
<Is not abnormal. This species, most of the genus are avid eaters...
In fact, the family name "Labridae", is sometimes cited as
coming from the Greek word "labros", meaning
He was eating with gusto at the store but in QT he mostly hides in the
sand and when he comes out, I can see his bloated stomach. His feces
are not white or stringy at all but rather thick and lumpy light
gray/brown colored. It almost looks like a worm but a little less than
a quarter of an inch thick. I was kind of surprised that feces this big
came out of a fish this small. I was thinking of picking up
Metronidazole considering it's most likely an internal
parasite/bacterial infection. I wanted your input on this.......thanks
<I would definitely not treat this fish, or use Metronidazole/Flagyl
lightly period. Do just wait here... likely the "bulge" in
your Coris will diminish of its own accord. Bob Fenner>
Re: Hey crew..... Coris 10/15/10
OK, sounds good, thank you. I was just under the impression that a
bloated stomach from a lot of eating would diminish after one
day........it's been three now.
<Depends on what was consumed... might be non-organic... these
"things" often take time. I urge patience here. BobF>
Re: Hey crew..... Coris gaimard hlth., beh.
Oh absolutely! I learned that the hard way the first TWO times lol.
While I have you, let me ask you one more question. Your literature
states that this Coris Wrasse does hide in the sand but unfortunately
mine hasn't come out since I purchased him four days ago. He was
eating great in the store and swimming around after being there for a
week, so I am quite optimistic and hopeful for survival. Is four days
<Mmm, no; not too long... after a week I might use the opposite end
of a net to slowly trace through the substrate>
Thanks again, If it weren't for you and your website/book, a lot of
us "hobbyists" probably wouldn't get half as far as we
do. GREATLY appreciated!
<Welcome Jas. BobF>
Red Coris Wrasse injury - 5/12/2006 I'm sorry to keep
bothering you guys, but I have another one for you. In one
of my tanks, a 90 gallon FOWLR, I have an adult Red Coris Wrasse. Given
Mr. Fenner's affinity for them from what I read, hopefully a wealth
of helpful information exists here. <Am out where
I most enjoy Coris gaimard... in HI> I noticed today that on his
abdomen, just above the anus, he is swollen on both sides of the
body. On one side, there is just a "tad" of
swelling, swelling you can only see from the bottom or
top. On the other side, it is more swollen, creating
slightly white areas. It almost appears as though my
snowflake more or less took a chomp at him (I've seen him chase the
Wrasse, mouth open). There appears to be a very slight
amount of white feces coming out of the anus, but only about 1/16 of an
inch, not really enough to be sure of anything.
Behaviorally, if you didn't see the swollen spot, you'd never
know there is a problem. The fish is swimming actively,
eating voraciously, taking mouthfuls of Mysis (even from my hand) and
repeatedly spitting them out and eating them a few at a time until
eventually he keeps them all down, an eating behavior he has always
had. <And something that I've observed many times in
this species in the wild as well> I am inclined to leave this fish
completely alone and see what happens. <This is what I would do>
If the eel did injure him, I figure he'll heal on his own without
my ... Uhh... "help." However if it's a
bacterial issue, I obviously want to address it as soon as
possible. I certainly don't want to mis-medicate. Thanks
again, Dave <Bob Fenner>
Re: Red Coris Wrasse 5/14/06 Hi All, <Dave> Thanks for
your quick reply. The Wrasse problem I described below is
getting worse. I am now confident that it's not injury,
as he has begun getting white sores/discolored spots on his scales
along the top of his body just below the fins. The fin areas
directly above the spots are somewhat frayed, but not
bad. He seems to be gaining one or two sores per day, and
the abdominal swelling is not improving. This problem has
still not begun to affect his behavior, but it's clearly
progressing. Thanks once again in advance, Dave <... could still be
resultant, tied to a/the physical trauma... What are you going to try?
Vitamin administration to the water, foods? Lacing these with
antibiotics? Bob Fenner>
Wrasse looking bad. Dear WetWeb crew, << Blundell here.
>> Was hoping you could help me with a bit of a
mystery. Many months back, I ordered a large Coris gaimard
from Jeff's Exotic Fish (great e-supplier, btw). Well,
it arrived and it was beautiful. A little over 6"
female! << Seen lots of those fish recently, they are great.
>> Did very, very well for several months. Then in
June, I had to go away for a few days and left my fish in the care of a
very concerned and capable neighbor. << But is still worried you
didn't it? Don't worry it is a concern to all of us.
>> When I returned, my Coris was on the bottom of the tank,
curled up into a C shape. When she did swim at all, it was
in tight, looping spirals, usually upside down. << Bad nutrition
or bad water quality. >> Seemed to me to be an internal infection
of some sort, so I removed her to my hospital tank and treated her with
Maracyn (and Melafix, just for the scraping). << Can't hurt,
sounds like a good idea. >> For almost two weeks she continued
this behavior, and each morning I would check on her expecting her to
be dead. Then, after being away for a day or so, I returned
to find her upright and healthy, though very thin and
sluggish. She greedily took food, and after several days of
recoup time I returned her to the display (which is 150 gallons--the
hospital tank she was in was only a 20 gallon). She is still
alive and doing reasonably well, but rather than fattening up the way I
would expect, she simply grows thinner. << Not sure what you are
using for food, but I would recommend some variety and possibly live
foods. >> I know there is competition for food in the tank, but I
feed both ends of the tank several times a day, and I watch her eat
what I would think to be an adequate amount of food. I feed
enriched brine, Mysis, bloodworms, diced tiger shrimp <<
Really??? >>, angel formula (mainly for my angels!), leafy
greens, and two good quality flakes--one vegetable and one meaty.
<< Well that is great. >> Specs: 150 gallon with good water
quality: 0 Ammonia and Nitrites, Nitrates run high (70-90) because of
the large, sloppy eaters. I keep them in hyposalinity
(1.011) to cut down on crypts, which have always plagued my angels.
Occupants: Large Volitans Lion (8") Large Maculosus Angel
(7", was 1" when I got it!) Med Queen Angel (5") Small
Chain Link Moray (10") Large Foxface (7") Med Sailfin Tang
(3") Med Arothron manilensis (4") Med Canthigaster
janthinoptera (2") Those nine fish have been the stable population
of the tank for months (most for many years). Any
suggestions? Is the Coris simply overwhelmed by his
tankmates? << I don't think so. >> Possible internal
parasite? Is the low salinity an issue? << Well that
is way low. I would look into that. >> Any help
fattening up this beautiful fish would be appreciated. << Yeah
the salinity seems super low. Also, I wonder if having those
aggressive fish is causing short term, quick to happen, ammonia spikes.
>> Thanks again for all your great work. Jim Jensen
<< Blundell >>
__Dead Red Coris wrasse__ Hi, crew of WWM, I have one concern
regarding my dead red Coris. Well, you see I think it died
under my crush coral substrate and I cant seem to find it to be able to
take it out. I currently have a 180 gallon with about 150
pounds of live rock and really do not want to uplift everything to find
just this dead Coris. Is it ok if I just let it decompose in
the substrate? Or will that be a problem towards my other 9
fish that are in there? Thank you for your help. <Just
leave him there he will decompose on his own MikeH> -PHT-