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Related Articles: Freshwater Filtration, Power Filter Impressions,  A review of some popular mechanical filtration systems by Steven Pro, Setting up a Freshwater Aquarium, Tips for Beginners

Related FAQs: Freshwater Filtration, Know Your Filter Media, A Concise Guide to Your Options by Neale Monks, Biological Filtration, Establishing CyclingFW Sponge Filters, FW Canister Filters, Chemical Filtrants,

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<Nice graphic, ideas... Wish I were receiving monies for the cartridge replacements. Bob Fenner>

Emperor 400 Microbubbles 4/12/08
Hello crew. I am hoping for your help. I am getting micro-bubbles from emperor 400. Makes the tank look cloudy. Any recommendations on how to fix this problem? Thank you. Phil
<Generally keeping your water level at or near the level of the filter return will eliminate or at the very least greatly reduce the bubble issue. You may need to top off the water daily…price we pay for keeping aquariums! Welcome, hope this helps, Scott V.>

How to Fix a Whisper Filter 4/7/08
Hey Crew,
<Hello.>
I haven't seen this information on the Web so I just wanted to pass it along to you. Recently, my Whisper HOB filter stopped working. The motor was still spinning, but it was not drawing water up the tube. I was feeling adventurous and decided to repair it with %100 success. Here's what I did:
This will repair most any non-functioning Whisper Filter
The problem is most likely that your Impeller has become detached from the magnet cylinder that spins it...The impeller still spins, but not like it should....The following is a (poorly made) ASCII Drawing of an impeller:

D <--End Cap
l
I I I I I I <--Impeller Head
WW <--White Plastic Shaft
-------- <--Top White Round Cap
MMM
MMM
MMM <--Magnet
MMM
MMM
-------- <--Bottom White Round Cap
l
l <--Metal Pin (it actually goes all the way through the whole impeller)
D <--End Cap

Basically, you need to silicone the "Top White Round Cap Back" onto the Magnet. Use a proper silicone, %100, no mildew-icide...Put something like an elastic or loose fitting vise-grips onto the newly siliconed joint, and let sit for 24 hours.
Cheers
<Thank you for sharing this tip, it will be passed along for the benefit of others. Nice diagram, Scott V.>

New Tank question, stkg. Melanotaeniids, Colisa lalia   3/12/08
Hello. I am new to aquariums and have purchased several books and read tons on your site (which has been VERY helpful) in an attempt to be the best fish owner possible. I have some questions that I can't seem to find specific answers to, even though I have done several searches on your site.
Some background info:
I purchased my fish from a local fish store that has the best reputation in the area. These are the fish (all locally raised) I purchased based on their advice:
3 angels (started with 4, one just died after a bout with an eye infection fish store thinks was due to injury - I removed sharp fake rocks)
<Bad choice for your first aquarium, and for what it's worth, the eye infection is more likely aggression between the Angels followed by a secondary infection. Fish just don't normally scratch themselves.>
3 turquoise Gourami (again started with 4 but one died almost instantly, fish store said sometimes that "just happens"!??)
<Fish Store somewhat correct. These are Colisa lalia, a fish that is plagued with an incurable viral disease. Inbred forms like the turquoise variety are even more flimsy than otherwise. Colisa lalia is a complete waste of money.>
2 blue rainbow
<Should be kept in groups of at least six specimens: Melanotaenia spp. are schooling fish, so what you're doing is cruel. Depending on precisely what species you have, these may be too large for your tank. Many Melanotaenia reach 12-15 cm.>
2 Hoplo catfish (acquired about 3 months after the others)
<Far too large for your aquarium; Hoplosternum littorale gets to over 15 cm in length and is extremely boisterous in temperament. A superb choice for a 55 gallon tank; an appalling one for anything smaller.>
I have a 29 gallon tank that I set up and let run for 2 weeks before purchasing any fish.
<Just "running" isn't enough -- how did you mature the filter? What source of ammonia did you add? Ammonia from a bottle? Bits of rotting shellfish? If you did nothing, and just let it sit there, then it is no more cycled after two weeks than it was when you started.>
All the fish did fine in their new home (excepting the one Gourami). I test my water regularly and do a 20-30% water change every week. I have had the tank set up for almost 6 months so now I am in the process of adding live plants. (I put in 2 live plants a couple of weeks ago and they did well so I just added some more).
So now on to the question(s):
What is the best temperature for this grouping of fish? The fish store said 72F but everything I read says it should be warmer. Should I listen to local advise or let majority rule?
<Neither. Science isn't democratic or based on local wisdom. Each fish has its own preferences dependent on its point of origin. Buy and read a decent aquarium book so you don't have to depend on what the guy in the shop says. Aiming for 25 C/77F would be about right for your fish.>
I have been having a heck of a time keeping the water quality stable. It seems I am always fighting against high ammonia or high nitrites/nitrates. Since I monitor this regularly, I am able to take corrective action before I get any further than the "mildly stressful" levels according to the test kits - but I would REALLY like to get everything stable and not always be worrying about what is going wrong!!
<Poor water quality depends on three factors: stocking, food, and filtration. If you are getting poor water quality even six months after setting the tank up, then you are either overstocked, overfeeding, and/or under-filtering. Pick and choose from these. Do also check you aren't doing anything stupid like killing the filter bacteria every time you open the filter, for example by changing all the media or running the media under a hot tap.>
I have hard water with a pH of 6.8 and currently my ammonia and nitrite readings are 0.
<Fine.>
I think maybe I am feeding too much? I read that as long as all the food is eaten in a couple of minutes, then it is the correct amount.
<Depends on the fish and the food. A juvenile Angelfish for example needs 3-4 "flakes" per day. Consider each flake about the same a medium-sized steak would be to a human. Alternately, a single wet-frozen cube of bloodworms would be adequate for all your fish for one day. Fish need very small amounts of food.>
My fish do eat all the food in that time period and come to the top afterward acting like they are starving, so could it be I am still feeding too much?
<Maybe.>
How do you know exactly how much to feed? This question has been driving me crazy for six months! I alternate between flake food and frozen brine shrimp, and I just started giving seaweed 1-2 times a week. I don't want to overfeed but I also don't want my fish to be hungry!
<Well-fed fish should have a gently rounded abdomen. If the abdomen looks chunky or swollen, you're overfeeding; if the ventral surface is concave or "knife-edge" in appearance, you're underfeeding.>
Then I just got a new filter. The one I had was an used AquaClear 70 that worked OK but made a horrible racket and I just couldn't take the noise any more! So I purchased a Marineland Emperor 400 (for up to 80 gallon tank) as I liked the idea of the bio-wheels and not risking the biological filtration every time I cleaned the filter. I know this is big for my tank but I went with the assumption that it would keep the water cleaner (and maybe therefore help stabilize everything) and also I hope to get a bigger tank in the future and this way I won't have to buy another new filter. I added the filter material from the old filter to start with (planning to remove it in a couple of weeks) in an attempt to keep the biological filtration going - I have no idea if this worked.
<Should do, but don't remove the old filter media for at least 6 weeks.>
But this filter makes the water much more active and I don't know if my fish like it! My Gouramis are turning darker since the change, even though they are eating and swimming normally. Is this grouping of fish OK with active water or should I change back to a smaller filter that won't move the water so much? They are all swimming around fine, not seeming to be buffeted or anything, but I notice it especially when feeding as the flakes now move rapidly around the tank and the fish get pretty hyper chasing the food. Is this stressful? My rainbows are chasing each other at feeding time and they never used to do that.
<What matters is water turnover. Look at your filter: it will have a turnover rating in gallons (or litres) per hour. Compare this to your tank. You are after 4-6 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour.>
I raised the water temperature to 77F when I was dealing with the hurt angel (per fish store) and I haven't lowered it yet. Could that be the reason for the hyper behavior and color changes?
<No idea, but leave the temperature there anyway.>
Overall my fish seem happy with each other and the new plants (nibbling on them and hiding in them), but the angels are starting to get really big and I know the rainbows and Hoplo can get big too so I am worried about whether they will continue to get along. Or if maybe the angels are harassing the Gouramis and that is the reason for them getting darker colored?
<Possible, and the Hoplosternum are also a bit more robust that one would normally want with Gouramis.>
I also notice a white area on 2 of the Gouramis (it is not raised or cottony or anything, looks more like a small layer of scales is gone) which makes me wonder if there is some fighting going on of which I am not aware.
<Or the start of Dwarf Gourami Iridovirus.>
I want to be a good fish owner and I love my fish, but so far I have spent much more time worrying than enjoying! How do I create a happy, stable aquarium environment?
<Primarily by reading first. Knowledge is power.>
I apologize for the long message. Thanks so much for your help and all the invaluable information on your website!
Cathy
<Good luck, Neale.>

Re: New Tank question... Outside power filter   3/14/08
Thank you for your response to my questions. Your response has raised two more questions. I did search your site before writing to you again, and I spent almost 3 hours reading without finding the answers to my questions, so I hope it's OK to write to you again.
<It's fine! Ask away!>
The first is concerning the fish I was advised to purchase. I am stuck with these fish now and want to make the best of the situation.
<Agreed.>
I feel really bad about the rainbows and plan to get a larger tank and more rainbows as soon as it is possible. So that leads to my question - I have already had these fish for 6 months and am not sure how long it will take me to gather the money for the larger tank set-up - at that point, I can only assume that the rainbow fish I have are going to be a good bit larger than the new fish. Is this going to be a problem in terms of them getting along and schooling, etc.?
<Shouldn't be a problem. Rainbowfish usually school with one another happily regardless of size. Mature males might chase one another, but normally no harm is done.>
I'm also very aggravated that they told me to get the hoplos as I told them I wanted two small catfish... and they were small when I got them :-) but have grown an enormous amount already and are very, very active - running into/over all the other fish if they happen to be in their way
<Indeed, Hoplosternum littorale is far from a "small" catfish.>
The 2nd question regards my new filter... it turns over 400 gallons per hours. I have a 29 gallon tank so this is obviously more than 4 to 6 times the volume of the tank. Does that mean I am now over-filtering?
<Seriously? 400 gallons per hour is a HUGE filter. This would be a top-of-the-line filter costing several hundred dollars and would be churning a 29 gallon tank into something like Niagara Falls! I'm pretty sure you're misreading something, and what you have is a 400 litres per hour filter, which is pretty standard for an entry-level filter. 400 litres is about 100 US gallons, or in other words a turnover about 3 and a bit times the volume of your tank per hour. Under-filtering rather than over-filtering.>
Do I need to get rid of this filter and get something smaller? I am reluctant to do that (since I am planning to get a bigger tank), but I will if it is what is best for the fish.
<Save up for the aquarium. At this point your problem is you have a bunch of fish that need a bit more space than you have. I'd recommend at least 55 US gallons. To keep costs down, save up for that tank and then install an undergravel filter. Coupled with the filter you already have, these two different filters will combine to provide excellent water quality. Undergravel filters aren't compatible with plants that have roots, but they're fine with floating plants and plants stuck to rocks (like Anubias and Java fern). Old school technology perhaps, but cheap and effective.>
Thanks again for your help!
Cathy
<Cheers, Neale.>

Re: New Tank question... filter
According to the box, my filter does run 400 gallons per hour (see specs below)! It is a huge filter - taking up most of the back of the tank. I paid around $80.00 for it. The water is active but not churning... should I get something smaller? Or maybe just figure out how to adjust the flow pump (that wasn't in the directions)?
Thanks!
Cathy
Marineland - Emperor 400 Power Filters
*Model Number **400*
*Flow Rate (L/H) * 1500
*Aquarium Size (L) *<300
*Flow Rate (GPH) * 400
*Aquarium Size (G) * <80
<Hi Cathy. Okely dokely; my mistake. But seriously, a 400 gallon per hour filter on a 29 gallon tank will have a turnover of more than 13 times per hour. That's more than the average marine aquarium! I can't imagine angelfish and other community fish of that sort being happy. The normal turnover for community tanks with freshwater fish is between 4-6 times per hour. In other words, just as the ratings suggest, this filter would be ideal for an 80 gallon tank (5 x 80 = 400). So yes, I'd be looking for a smaller filter, and would save this one for as/when you get a large tank. Cheers, Neale.>

An addendum: Regarding Emperor 400 filter On 3/14/08 Neale answered a question from Cathy (Re: New Tank question)   3/15/08
Hi there, Crew! I just had a note to add. Regarding Emperor 400 filter On 3/14/08 Neale answered a question from Cathy (Re: New Tank
question) regarding her Emperor 400 filter on her 29 gallon tank.
Neale suspected that this filter couldn't possibly be so vigorous as 400 gph, but this is actually what it is rated at! In fact, I've seen
two of these filters powering a 250 gallon tank with a single Koi, at my fave Pan Asian restaurant. It seems to suffice.
This web page explains some basic modifications you can make to maximize efficiency:
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/power_filter_tricks_v.php
Emperor filters are workhorses, and they do deliver ample flow.
Unfortunately, these filters are the "cartridge type" with some blue floss and crumbles of carbon in a grid...I *highly* recommend to anyone who uses them, that they swap out the disposable cartridges for the largest AquaClear media they can find. Specifically the foam sponges and the Biomax bags. All of my tanks have hang-on back filters (some also employ canister filtration) and I use AquaClear media on all of the hang-on back filters, even though some of them are not AquaClears. The AquaClear media comes in an array of sizes, so will fit most any HOB filter. Rinseable, reusable media is the way to go!
Incidentally, that filter must be roiling the water on that 29 gallon tank a whole lot. Since as I recall, Cathy has three dwarf Gouramis in there, maybe she should try to diffuse that flow a bit. One suggestion would be to secure floating plastic plants just under the filter's flow path. Some black binder clips holding up the plants on either side of the filter ought to do the trick, although a more elegant and lasting solution could probably be effected eventually. Just food for thought!
As always, thank you for all your efforts.
Nicole
<Thanks much for this Nicole. Will send along to NealeM and accumulate. Bob Fenner>


<As Bob said, thanks for this. Without the filter being named in the original e-mail, I simply had a hard time imagining anyone would put such a big filter on such a small tank. But I was wrong! I agree with you, the water current is perhaps overkill for Gouramis, but then again, I imagine the "gallons per hour" of the average Southeast Asian river is pretty substantial, too! Cheers, Neale.>

Filter Recommendations - 02/06/07
I forwarded my last email to you, below is what I sent.  Just to elaborate on that, I was looking into penguin, Emperor and whisper hang-on power filters.  So pretty much it was between those unless you have a better one to recommend.  Currently my Rena does 350gph, how many more gph would I need for an overstocked 75g African tank?
Thanks again Bob I appreciate it.
<The Penguin and Emperor filter lines are both made by the same company, Marineland. Go with an Emperor 400. Has Bio-wheels and overflow when it needs serviced. Nice filter. When you get tired or cleaning on the Rena you will really appreciate the Emperor. The best filter is the one you will clean the most often.-Chuck>

Airstones inside H.O.T. filters? 1/15/08
Hello, Brando here.
<Hello.>
I have a 90 gal. Malawi cichlid tank- 1 acei, 3 red peacock, 1 albino ice blue, 2 yellow labs, 2 red zebra, 1 jewel, 1 CAE, 1 African lace cat.
<Quite an interesting collection!>
Filtration is 2 TopFin 60 H.O.T. filters.
<OK.>
I have always used carbon as the filter media, however I am considering switching out the carbon for a different media.
<A no-brainer: do it. Carbon doesn't have any significant benefit in freshwater tanks. All carbon does is remove dissolved organics, which 25-50% water changes per week will be taking care of anyway. On the downside, carbon is wasting space that could be used for better biological media that would actually help water quality, or mechanical media that would improve water clarity. In a Malawi cichlid tank, even the use of a calcareous substrate, like crushed coral, would be more useful for its pH-buffering, KH-raising effects.>
The TopFin 60 is a dual-well filter and I have two of them on the tank. Should I replace the media all at once, or should I do just one side of each filter to avoid any sudden changes?
<All at once. Then take the carbon out to the garden, and ceremonially burn it, to signify your rejection of Stone Age fishkeeping in favour of the Modern Era.>
What media would you recommend?
<Anything would be better. Depends on what you're after. As noted above, a calcareous substrate would be useful. But if you're going for better water quality, then a decent ceramic media like Siporax wouldn't be a bad choice.>
Also, would it be wise to place airstones into the bottoms of these filters (so that bubbles rise up through and around the cotton pouches which hold the media) to supply more oxygen to the media?
<Worth a shot. Certainly can't hurt. But if those filters already are open to the air and have water sluicing across the media, then the bacteria may well have all the oxygen they need. In which case placing the airstones in the tank to improve water circulation might be a better use of resources.>
Thank you so much,
Brand
<Cheers, Neale.>

Canister vs. Hang-on, FW     01/13/2008
I have been looking at your site, and have seen filtration questions answered differently. My tank is a 30 gallon with a H.O.T.. Magnum and a double bio-wheel by Marineland. Not many fish as to an ammonia spike. I have a Fluval 304 and a Fluval 404 that I could use. My question is-Canister vs. Hang-On. Would I be better off using one of the canisters? Someone told me the Bio-Wheel is not a good choice, and others say it is. Could you please give me your opinion on this. Thank you for your time.
<Greetings. There's no short answer to this: it's a case of "horses for courses". All things being equal, a tropical aquarium needs about 4 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour when small things like Neons and Guppies are kept; that goes up to about 6 times for larger fish such as Goldfish, and as much as 10 times for sensitive or mess creatures, such as big catfish, marines, Oscars, and so on. So a 100 litre aquarium with small fish needs filtration that equals at least 400 litres of turnover per hour. So far, so good. But not all filters excel at the same things. Canister filters are very good at mechanical filtration. Water is sucked in under pressure, forced through sponges or whatever, and then back into the tank. But because the canister is closed to the atmosphere the only oxygen it gets is through the water, and the bacteria can easily used up this supply as the water goes through the filter media. End result is that canister filters are less effective at biological filtration than filters that are open to the aquarium or open to the air, such as trickle filters or wet-and-dry filters. On the flip side, low-pressure trickle and wet-and-dry filters aren't so good at trapping solid waste. They don't generate much pressure, and the water doesn't pass through much mechanical filter media. Your hang-on-the-back filter is some sort of low-pressure filter, with a pump pulling water quite gently into the box where it sluices through chambers open to the air. That's great for biological filtration, but less good for mechanical filtration. The "ideal" is ultimately about choosing what your fish need most. If you're keeping Goldfish, then mechanical filtration is paramount, since these fish produce a lot of silt, partly as faeces, but also because they root about the bottom of the tank all the time. But if you were keeping marines, where tanks are lightly stocked but the livestock very sensitive to ammonia, then biological filtration is the prime issue. Realistically, provided you adhere to the 4x, 6x, or 10x rules outlined above, it shouldn't matter too much, but one idea to use two types of filter, so that you get the best of both worlds. Hope this helps, Neale.>


Filter intake problems, HOB    11/30/07
Hello WWM folks,
<Hello Melissa,>
I have a 15 gallon freshwater tank that completed its cycle two days ago. It was set up on the 15th of November. I cycled with fish - five blackskirt tetras - and seeded with sponge media from another tank. Yesterday, I did a 50% water change and added three peppered Corys.
<Hmm... a bit small for these species. Your tetras, Gymnocorymbus ternetzi, get to around 5 cm long and are hyperactive little fish. The Corydoras paleatus can get even bigger: I have specimens around the 7 cm mark. So while things might be fine now, I have to confess that I think your tank will be very cramped once these fish grow up. Do also remember that Gymnocorymbus ternetzi is a semi-parasitic fish. It eats the fins and scales from slow-moving fish. It cannot be kept with anything slow-moving, and your Corydoras are likely to get nipped periodically as well. When kept with things with long fins, like Guppies, Angelfish and Gouramis, Gymnocorymbus ternetzi simply shred their fins, resulting in fungal infections and the like. In short, not a community species, despite its wide sale as such.>
However, when I was planting the tank (Vallisneria, water sprite, Anubias and some moss, if it matters), a lot of bits of roots and leaves fell off the plants.
<This happens when plants are moved. They don't like being moved.>
I left these bits in the tank to decompose and help the cycle along.
<Not a very good idea!>
Now that the cycle is over, I've removed the small bits of leaves and roots, but there still remains quite a lot of detritus that I'm pretty sure resulted from the rotting plants. For some reason, my filter doesn't seem to be doing its job in getting rid of this detritus. I don't mean actual pieces of plant, I mean tiny specks of detritus, like dust or dirt.
<Simply means inadequate mechanical filtration. Hang-on filters are especially bad for this, being optimized for biological filtration but providing little to no mechanical filtration.>
I have a HOB filter that filters 450 L/h (my tank is 57 L). I have no dead spots in there as far as I can tell. The detritus circulates around the tank due to the current produced by the filter's waterfall, settles on the leaves of my plants or on my sand substrate, but never actually gets sucked up.
<A common problem with this sort of filter. Your filter is theoretically adequate for biological filtration, but if you're seeing silt in the tank, that's empirical proof that mechanical filtration (removal of solid particles) is inadequate. Two solutions: add more filtration, or do more water changes. Your move.>
I removed the bottom part of the intake tube which seems to have improved the suction. With the entire intake tube intact, I could feel absolutely no suction when I placed my finger at the end of it, but when I removed the bottom part I could feel some very slight suction, but nothing strong enough to take a fish. However, it doesn't seem to be making all that much difference.
<Sounds as if the filter is clogged. Assuming the pump itself is working, take a look at the filter media. As the media gets clogged up, water flow through the filter drops. Solution: clean the media. Biological media can be cleaned a bucket of aquarium water by squeezing it a few times. Mechanical media can be aggressively washed under a running tap. Carbon can be taken out and buried in the garden. You have no need for it in your sort of aquarium. Replace that part of the filter with something like filter wool.>
Obviously this subtracts terribly from the aesthetic value of my tank, but I'm also very worried for my nitrate levels. I fear that with this huge amount of detritus around, my nitrates are going to spike and then I will be faced with a whole host of new problems.
<No... plant detritus is mostly cellulose with little to no protein content (review your biology classes at school, and why carnivores only need to have small meals, but herbivores must graze for hours and hours at a time). So the effect on nitrate is minimal. One flake of flake food probably has more protein than a whole Amazon swordplant! But what silt and plant material will do is block the filter, and once water flow gets too low, the removal of ammonia and nitrite by the bacteria becomes inadequate.>
Any help is deeply appreciated.
Thanks.
-Melissa
<Hope that this helps, Neale.>

Re: Filter intake problems 11/30/07
Hi Neale,
Regarding the maximum size of the fish - I have never heard this before.
<A common problem. This is why investing in an aquarium book is such a good idea. The public library will have many, I'm sure. Always look up the maximum size of fish *before* purchase.>
I was told that I could have up to six Corys in my tank. Thanks for the heads up.
<Ah, depends on the Corydoras. Peppered Corydoras are very tolerant any may be fine enough. My specimens will happily spawn in an 8 gallon tank! But personally, I'd consider a 15 gallon tank a little on the small size for Peppered Corys. Small species, perhaps, but Peppers get to a fair old size when kept properly. Certainly upwards of 5 cm, and potentially around 7 cm.>
What kind of additional filtration do you think I need?
<To start with, I'd just try manual cleaning. Siphon out 50% of the water at a time (what I recommend you do once a week regardless). Put your finger over the spout to 'shoo' away any fish that get too close. Use the siphon like a vacuum cleaner, sucking up detritus as best you can. Assuming the plants are actually thriving and not slowly dying, you should be able to remove all the dead material by doing this. If you want, repeat every day until the tank is spick-and-span.>
I wouldn't have thought my tank needed a canister filter. I washed the filter media, but to no avail.
<Your filter probably just doesn't have much mechanical filtration capacity. Many don't. For small fish in unplanted or lightly planted tanks it really isn't a big deal. Mechanical filtration becomes more critical with filthy fish like Goldfish and big Cichlids, and in planted tanks with a lot of decaying vegetation. But as I say, for now, hold off buying another filter. It may well be that 'vacuuming' the tank a few times will do the trick.>
I don't use carbon in my filter.
<Good.>
Thanks,
-Melissa
<Cheers, Neale.>

Filter Intake, FW  9/26/07
I have a 2.5 gallon tank that I have a Crown Tail Betta in. I just added 2 zebra danios today.
I noticed one had gone missing a few hours after I put them in the tank.
<Eaten?>
I looked around, he was gone. No little body floating, nothing. I have a Whisper filter with the top of the water almost level so I looked into my filter and found my fish! At first I thought he might have swam into the filter, so I took out a little water, but he was on the back side of the filter. I'm thinking that he either swam up the intake part of the filter, or he was sucked in. Is there any sort of cover that I can place to keep him from swimming/getting sucked into it again? (If he does it again, I may not find him until its too late!) Or do I need to get a different type of filter? This is the filter that came with the tank set up. Thanks.
<Mmm... most outside powerfilters have such screens... on their intakes... Are the Danios so small they can fit in anyway? I would cut, fix a piece of plastic screen door material over the existing intake if so... likely with a zip-tie/panduit. Bob Fenner>
I might want to clarify what kind of whisper filter I have: it is an In-take filter. Right now I put some of my gravel closer to the intake, so maybe they wont wander under there!
<Maybe...>

Filtration and oxygen, FW    7/17/07
Hi, guys.
<<Tom here.>>
Quick question.
<<Okay. (I’ll have one for you when I close. ;) >>
I have installed a second filter on my 55 gallon discus tank, in order to allow it to mature before my new and larger tank comes.
<<I like your thinking. Excellent move!>>
My primary filter is an Eheim 2026 (rated up to 92 gallons) and the new one is an Emperor 400.
<<The Emperor won’t take long to establish and nice choice.>>
I plan to run them both together for a month before placing them both on the new 90 gallon aquarium.
<<Again, good planning!>>
Here is my question: I have a bubble bar in the aquarium. Should I remove it since the HOB filter should provide some oxygenation of the water?
<<Nope. The more, the better. Oxygen in the tank is at a “premium”. Unless utility costs are an issue, I’d keep it going.>>
I do not intend to allow the water level in the aquarium to fall enough for the water coming off of the Emperor to make much splash/noise.
<<Got one myself. The “noise factor”, in my opinion, is vastly over-stated (if you read the reviews). Switched it out from a large Aqua-Clear model (a very good filter), which made a heck of a lot more “water” noise. Just me, perhaps, but I don’t think you’ll be disappointed…in the least!>>
Thank you for your reply!
<<You’re welcome. (Now, two things. I like to know who I’m talking to, first of all. Second, there’s a SHIFT key on your keyboard that’s used to capitalize letters that are meant to be capitalized. “Old school”, perhaps, but we have to proofread AND answer questions before submitting them. Your question, and our responses, go on the Web for everyone in the world (including those who might not have English as their “first” language) to read. ‘Nuff said. ;) ) Tom>>

How often should filter cartridges be cleaned/replaced – 05/21/07
Dear Crew,
<Nicole.>
I have what is likely a silly question about filtration, but I've been puzzling on it for a while and I can't seem to figure it out.  I have a 10 gal tank with a Tetra Whisper Power filter, and my question is this:  the manufacturer's instructions suggest changing the cartridges once per month, but if I throw out the cartridge, won't I be throwing out the beneficial bacteria that are growing on it? <You are right.>
How long will it take the bacteria to re-establish themselves in the new cartridge <A few days, many will be left in the substrate and on the decorations.>, and will this be harmful to the stability of my tank? <It could, if you’d also clean decorations and substrate.> Should I just be rinsing the cartridges out <Yes, just rinse the cartridges as soon as you recognize water flow to become significantly weaker or when water just overflows the tube like chamber. Those cotton or foam like materials can last for several years, only wool in other models needs to be replaced more often.> and replacing the carbon instead of changing them every month? <You do not need to use carbon at all. New activated carbon will only be good for one or two weeks. It’s only useful in specific cases e.g. to help removing some chemicals such as remedies or certain toxins. It needs to be introduced fresh to your filter in such cases.>
Thanks in advance for your help, my tank is going along so well and I just don't want to mess it up! Nicole. <You are welcome. Have fun with your tank. Marco.>

Quiet Skilter 250? Skilter Problems 4/12/07
I got a used Skilter 250 (came without box or instructions) in a batch of equipment.  I set it up on a 10 Gal. freshwater tank currently only occupied by 1 P. bridgesii snail, castles, & some live plants (there are fish coming, though). <Generally skimmers do not work in freshwater for various reasons unless the water is very very dirty.  They require the increased surface tension of salt water to maintain the bubbles long enough to work properly, which does not happen in freshwater.> It runs quietly (quiet waterfall noise is quite pleasant, so I'm bidding on another for a similar tank for just a few fish). <Can you cancel your bid?>  But in 2 weeks+, nothing in the cup! <Expected.> I thought, well, the water IS pretty clean...   After reading the posts concerning the Skilter 250, I have to wonder--is there something I have to do, to turn the Protein Skimmer part on?  You are probably ROTFL right now, but I didn't notice a separate switch... Please advise.
Linda Willis
<Your problem is that skimmers just don't work in freshwater, and the Skilter in particular have a reputation of not working in salt water either.>
<Chris>

Impossible <Marineland> Filter Cartridge – 3/26/07
Hello.
<Hi.>
I am a new tank owner and I need to change my filter. Stupid me didn't buy replacement cartridges when I bought the filter. That was two hours away from my home. Now, I can't find the cartridges even on line. I bought a Deluxe AQUA-Tech power filter and it says to use EZ-Change #1 Filter Cartridges. I can't find them anywhere.
<I’m not seeing much out there either.  Perhaps not a current model.  Hmmm.>
I know AQUA-Tech is made by Marineland and I still can't figure out which filters will work. Can you please help me?
<Marineland changed their size designations recently to Rite-Size, complete with color-coding.  So some of the older sizes might have new and improved designations.  I would measure the old filter cartridge and go to a more convenient pet store and try to match the size in the new designations.  Or call Marineland customer service.  Their info is listed on their website www.marineland.com.>
Thank you for your time.
Jennifer
<Welcome. Alex>

Siporax in power filter question, FW ap.      2/23/07
Crew-
<Michael>
I hope all is well. I'm writing today with a few questions regarding the placement of Siporax beads. Specifically, I'm setting up a 15-gallon freshwater dwarf puffer tank. I'm using an Aquaclear Mini (100 gph) for filtration. Inside the Aqua clear's media chamber, I'd like to place a Dacron bag filled with Siporax beads for their nitrification and denitrification benefits.
<An excellent idea, proposition>
I plan to cut the sponge in half to increase the volume of Siporax that I can place into the filter. I also plan on using Aqua clear's carbon insert in the media chamber (in between the sponge and the Siporax). My actual question regards exposing the Siporax bag to air when cleaning the filter. Will I be drastically harming the anaerobic population if I transfer the Dacron bag from the filter (through the air) to a small bowl filled with aquarium water (and then back when finished cleaning)?
<Mmm, no... the majority of said anaerobes are located deep within the fractured areas of these sintered glass beads>
I realize that the anaerobic colony resides in the anoxic "innards" of the beads (devoid of oxygen), but I have no idea if air will penetrate these regions during such a transfer. Any help is always greatly appreciated. Also, if you feel that my placement of media should be rearranged in any way (in terms of order), I value your advice.
Thanks,
Mike
<Likely little issue here... I would avoid much in the way of rinsing such media... Bob Fenner>

Filter Recommendations - 02/11/2007
Hey Chuck, we were speaking about power filters yesterday.  I just went and purchased the penguin (bio-wheel) HOB power filter.  The Emperor was
a bit out of my price range but I was wondering how you feel about BioWheels?
< I love them. I think they are a great asset to any aquarium filter. If they had them for air driven filters I would have them on them too.>
I am using this on an overstocked 75g African Cichlid tank as an addition to my Rena Filstar Xp3.  The Aquaclear is within my price range compared to the Emperor so now I am considering buying one of those for my 55g.  I never realized until just now that the media in the Aquaclear is much like a wet dry filter.  Is the Aquaclear filtration setup more effective than the bio wheel setup, or are they similar? Also, which is the most quiet between the Penguin and the Aquaclear? Thanks a lot. Jason McCorry
< The limiting factor to biological filtration is oxygen. That is why the Bio-wheels are out of the water. They are probably the most efficient media for bacteria to grow on.-Chuck>

Filter Choices, FW power   2/12/07
Hey Chuck, just a follow up.  After reading your email regarding the Penguin filter I went and returned it.  Still, the Emperor is way out of my price range (strictly because it's only an add-on filter for an already powerful canister).  So I went and bought the Hagen Aquaclear 110 (pumps 500gph), do you think this is a better choice than the Penguin?
< It does not have a Bio-Wheel so I think you will be missing out on some of the biological filtration it would have provided. The Hagen is fine. Lots of water movement with very good mechanical filtration.>
I've read a lot of reviews on this filter, but what's your opinion on it?  Where does it stand in ranking amongst the Emporer etc.?
Thanks Chuck
< I am still a big fan of the Marineland filters with the Bio-wheel attachments. I have had them run for many many years without any problems. The Hagen filters are good I just do not have any recent hands on experience with them.-Chuck>

Tetra GC30 Hydroclean tank siphon, r/etail is best?   1/29/07
Hi,
    I've decided to buy a Tetra GC30 Hydroclean tank siphon.  The only problem is that I can't seem to find a dealer in the U.S. I tried to  order one from a UK store and they wanted 45 bucks, just to deliver it!
<Wow!>
  I live in South Carolina, and was wondering if you guys know of a  closer online dealer. I have found U.S. sites that sell Tetra  products but not the GC30 I'm looking for. Thanks for your time,
Greg
<Mmm... I'd try a good-sized local store or two... see if they'll allow you to special order this for you... or try the "usual suspects" etailers here... Custom Aquatic, Marine Depot... and dang the torpedoes. BobF>

Note about AquaClear filter    1/10/07
Hi!
<Hello there>
Just a quick note about the AquaClear filters. It is my understanding that the AquaClear Mini is now called AquaClear 20.
<Mmm, something like this: http://www.hagen.com/usa/aquatic/basic/4-1.cfm>
Just thought it might help people trying to buy this piece of equipment! (I own the old version myself).
Audrey
<Thank you for this. Hopefully Hagen (the manufacturer) will provide cross-indexing for their media, et al. Bob Fenner>

Re: Note about AquaClear filter   1/11/07
Hi again Bob!
<Audrey>
> Just a quick note about the AquaClear filters. It is my understanding that the AquaClear Mini is now called AquaClear 20.
> <Mmm, something like this: http://www.hagen.com/usa/aquatic/basic/4-1.cfm>
Like this one: http://www.hagen.com/usa/aquatic/product.cfm?CAT=1&SUBCAT=107&PROD_ID=01005950020101
> <Thank you for this. Hopefully Hagen (the manufacturer) will provide cross-indexing for their media, et al. Bob Fenner>
They do, but the writing on the box is *tiny*!
Audrey
<Perhaps a note to Rolf and Dieter in Canada re...? Manufacturers do appreciate such input. RMF>

Re: Tom: Snail update and hang-on filter trick
 - 12/04/06
Hello Tom,
<<Hello again, Rachel.>>
I wanted to update you on the cuttlefish bone addition for my mystery snail.
<<Updates are always welcome, Rachel.>>
The bone seems to be very slowly dissolving into the water, and his shell has stopped deteriorating. The tank's pH has not changed. Once in a while I notice the snail munching while on the bone, but I couldn't say whether he's munching the bone or a bit of algae off the surface. I don't see any tell-tale teeth marks. Worth noting, though, is the fact that he did chew with gusto on one of those terrible plaster "vacation feeders." The pet store had run out of automatic feeders... thankfully I got my family to bring me an automatic feeder just in time for break, and I pulled the awful plaster thing out of my tank! But anyway, the bone seems to have served its purpose.
<<I’ve never used a vacation feeder but, since plaster is largely composed of calcium sulfate, perhaps yours wasn’t so “terrible” after all or, at the least, your snail knows something we don’t. :) >>
I also wanted to pass on a trick I discovered for my Whisper Micro in-tank filter. My tank is a MiniBow kit and I've written in before about a few modifications that can be made to these kits to make them quieter and healthier. One more! I had some leftover filter sponge from covering the intake of the filter, so I slipped a piece behind the filter body. It helps keep the filter from resting on the tank wall (which it's not supposed to do anyway; the suction cup is supposed to prop it up but it's too flat) so the vibrations and noise are greatly reduced. I also padded the hook that hangs the filter from the tank's lip with a bit of sponge. Sounds much better! And it feels better too now that the tank isn't vibrating, for me since this tank sits on my desk, and hopefully for Terrence the Betta inside too.
<<I like your thinking, Rachel. Thanks for passing this along to us and the rest of our readers.>>
Thanks for your help, Tom!
Rachel
<<Happy to have been of assistance, Rachel, and thanks for the nice update and tip. My best to you. Tom>>

Using established tank to put bacteria on new bio-wheel    11/4/06
Hello WWM crew,
<Helen>
    I was wondering if it would be possible to put beneficial bacteria on a new bio-wheel, for a new filter system, for a new tank, by putting it as a decoration in a tank that has already cycled (not making it a part of the cycled tanks filter system). This would be for say a few weeks and then set up the new aquarium.
<Yes, can work... better to inoculate the "wheel" by hooking the whole filter up, and running it though>
    Okay a bit of history. The cycled tank is a 3 gallon one, it had two fish in it, a Synodontis and a Keyhole Cichlid,
<Yikes... too small...>
up until a few weeks ago when I was forced to relocate a guppy into the tank, due to a fin-nipping fish. All of these fish are small. The biggest is the Syno. and he is only about 1 1/2" long.
So, there is no hurry to relocate these fish yet.  
   Toxin levels are as follows:*
    Ammonia - <0mg/L
    Nitrites     - 0mg/L
    Nitrates    - 10ppm
*this is with the guppy in there for a week.
*These numbers may actually be lower as I recently did a water change.
    The new tank will be a ten gallon tank because it's the biggest I could get for the space I have. It will be using a Penguin filter. I can't remember if it's a 100 or 150, but it's the smallest one I could find (space issue). I plan to move as much as I can from the cycled tank to the new one, but do you think it would be a good idea, or would it at least help the new tank cycle a little faster if I did as I proposed.
<Is a very good idea/practice>
Much appreciate any help you could provide.
halexander9
<You have read: can't seem to open here in Cambodia... but WWM FW really biol. filtration... Articles and FAQs files. Bob Fenner>

Power Filter Choice   9/4/06
Hello there,
<<Hello, Steve. Tom>>
I currently have a 55 gallon planted discus tank. I have four 3-4 inch discus and one 5 inch pleco. I am currently running a Jebo canister filter along with a Penguin 125 power filter. I realize the Jebo was a terrible choice. Guess I had to learn for myself that it is worth it to pay extra to get something decent. I would like to replace the filters and was considering either an Emperor 400 or an Aquaclear. Due to the brace on the middle of the tank, an Emperor would have to be off centered and I worry about not getting a good circulation of water in the tank. I like the simplicity of the AquaClear filters. I thought that maybe it would be a good idea to use two smaller Aquaclear filters in order to create better circulation. (Maybe two Aquaclear 50's) I realize that opinions vary, but what would you do in this situation?
<<Steve, both the Emperor and AquaClear models are good choices for this style of filter. My preference for the AquaClear filters is only due to my own experience with them as I've never had a bit of trouble with any that I've owned (I currently have two running, a 50 and a 70). Were it me, I'd probably opt to go with two AquaClear 70's - as opposed to 50's - just to get the extra filtering capacity on a tank the size of yours.>>
Thanks for taking the time to help. Hope you are having a great Labor Day Weekend.
Steve
<<Happy to help, Steve, and I hope you're enjoying your holiday weekend
as well. Tom>>

Extra Media Slots (Penguin 200 and 350) For an additional Rite-Size Filter Cartridge or Penguin Refillable Media Cartridge for enhanced chemical filtration.   6/13/06
I just bought a Penguin Power filter 200 model. Can you tell me the purpose and proper settings for the mid level filter, My tank is 29 Gal fresh water.
Thank you
Tom
<Per the above spiel, these hang-on outside power filters have an extra gap to place either stock cartridge or a refillable media cartridge... Bob Fenner>

Re: Extra Media Slots (Penguin 200 and 350) For an additional Rite-Size Filter    6/14/06
Thank you for the response. I was looking for the proper setting of the midlevel filter level that is half way down the extension that goes in the water. It says it is for water filtration at a different point.
Thank you
<Ahh! Yes... some water to be "taken in" at an upper level. Bob Fenner>

BioWheel Question 5/31/06
Greetings!  
<Hi>
Any information in response to my question would be greatly
appreciated!
I have a 40 gallon glass tank with 3 goldfish: 2 calico fantails and 1 goldfish fantail.  I figured this set up would be perfect for the little guys to grow healthy in with a penguin 350b power filter.  In regards to the bio-wheel, once the nitrifying bacteria colony grows on it, what color should it be?  Reason being, my two bio-wheels are brown, as if mostly algae? <Normal color.> As a result, I believe that this is the cause of my water with small bubbles on the surface. <Unlikely related, some bubbles are normal.> I've done 20% water changes everyday for the past 2 weeks, yet there are still small bubbles (that will eventually burst), but I know there is a water quality problem here.  I've tested the water with the
following results:
ammonia =~ 0.1 (obviously still bad) <Yep>
ph =~ 7.2
nitrites =~ 0.50 (needs to be 0, which is why I've done daily water changes) <Good>
nitrates =~ 10 ppm
The water changes have not changed much.  I've conditioned the new tap water with ammo-lock, added aquarium salt after the water changes, and even rinsed the filters in the original aquarium water, but still no luck.  Which leads me to the bio-wheel and it's brownish coloration.  Could this be the cause?
Any ideas would be great.
Thank you.
Ty
<Most BioWheels look brown after a while, so the color is normal.  Do you have ammonia/nitrites coming from the tap water?  Ammo-lock can cause false positives on the ammonia test.  If this tank is only a couple of weeks old then I would suspect than the cycle is not yet completed. Can take up to a month at times.>
<Chris>

Hang-on-back filter hang-up  5/26/06
Dear WetWeb:
<Martha>
I recently obtained a standard 55-gallon freshwater tank second-hand.  To my surprise, the AquaClear 70 filter that I have been using on my 45-gallon tank won't quite fit over the rim of this new tank!
<Happens>
Instead, it perches about 1/2" above the tank edge, failing to clear the inner lip of the tank by perhaps 1/8".
<Yep>
Do I leave well-enough alone, and leave the perching filter in its elevated position?  
<Mmm, no... not made to function a kilter, and too likely to "fall off"!>
The water-flow comes closer to the glass canopy than I find truly comfortable; too easy to get stray water-droplets on top of the
glass, under the light strip.
Do I take a knife, or a saw, or a blowtorch  (!) to the plastic rim of the tank, trying to create a space for the filter to slip into more firmly?
<One approach...>
I don't think the filter itself can be modified.
<Mmm, can... and this is what/where I'd make the modification as the rim of the tank itself is structural to a degree. The lip of the filter box can be (very carefully) cut... with a fine jig saw blade for instance... taping over both sides, going slowly, and an "extension" solvented onto/over the cut to extend its reach>
Or are some HOB filters more capacious than others?
<Yes>
I am very happy with AquaClears in most of my tanks, but would consider using another brand if it would fit this thank.
Thank you for your time.
<Am a big fan of these fine Hagen products as well... but would look into Supreme et alia. lines to fit this 55 here. Bob Fenner>

Poor Filter Intake Depth  - 05/22/2006
Hi Crew. Could you please answer a question that I can not find a specific answer to?
< We will try.>
I recently set up a 75 gal. freshwater aquarium and can't find any info on where to place the filter intake tube as far as depth in tank. For best results should it be close to the substrate or in middle levels. Filter is Emperor 400. There is no reference the placement with manual or on their website. Also...I am going to stock this tank with blue gourami's and albino Cory cats only. How many do you recommend as maximum number of each for this size tank? Thanks for all of your help through the many fin articles and FAQ'S all of you provide for this fascinating addictive hobby. Thanks again...DR
< In the center of the tank would be perfect. The Cory's would occupy the lower areas while the Gouramis occupy the upper levels. The intake would not interfere with either in the middle.-Chuck>

Significance of artificial filter sponges in freshwater aquarium changing color    4/6/06
Dear Sirs and Madams:
<Tamara>
Hello! After much searching on the net and other links, I have been stumped as to why the artificial filter sponges in my planted, established
freshwater aquarium are turning pinkish-red. My ammonium levels are minimal, my pH is a relatively constant 7.2 and the water itself rather hard (but it
has been about the same since I started my tank, about six years ago). I have never had an epidemic in my tank with regards to my flora or fauna,
with the exception of a couple of algae blooms in the spring, but nothing too extreme. I have a balanced number of fish, and do not overfeed them. Is
this cause for alarm?
<No>
It started happening around November of 2005. Thank you for your input!
Sincerely,
Tammy
<Likely is biological... algal growth... though could be other life (need a microscope to discern) or simply a chemical/physical staining... but not to worry in all cases. Bob Fenner>

Treating A Tank With A Bio-Wheel - 2/28/2006
Hello, Have been combing the archives and I can't seem to spot
this question/answer. I have a 12gal Eclipse with a bio wheel, when you're medicating a tank (ick)-after you're done, what do you do with the bio wheel? I've gotten rid of the carbon in the filter and have a new one ready to put in after the treatment, but am not sure what to do with the wheel-if anything or how to proceed.
Thanks, Judy
< Before treatment, take the Bio-wheel out of the system and place it in a little dish/bowl with some aquarium water and place it in a cool dark spot like under the aquarium. Keep it moist but not submerged. Treat the tank for ich for at least three days as per the recommendations on the bottle. After the treatment is complete you add carbon to remove any medication. When the tank is clear you can simply reinstall the bio-wheel. Without a fish to host the parasite it will die off in a few days depending on the water temp. This is one of the great things about the Bio-Wheel. This is especially useful when treating with antibiotics.-Chuck.>

Re: Medicated Tank with Bio-Wheel  - 3/1/2006
Thank you Chuck for the quick response! I of course acted first and asked second! :-(  What would I need to do (I pulled the bio wheel after I started treatment)
in this instance? Should I get a new wheel and treat the water with a Bio Spira product after the treatment and about a 50% water change? I was so anxious to treat the white spots that I remembered the carbon but wasn't sure about the wheel. Thanks Again, Judy
< When the fish are cured add carbon to remove the excess medication. Start feeding after adding the carbon. Be very careful not to overfeed and remove any excess food after a couple of minutes. Check the ammonia and nitrites. If they start to get up there then I would add Bio-Spira.-Chuck>

New Fish And Quieter Filter  - 02/20/06
Hi Crew! I have a 10 gallon tank which is really empty (well, seemingly to me). It  contains 2 Cory catfish -1 peppered and 1 bronze- and a Bolivian ram (so said at the pet shop). I was wondering what other fish could be compatible for these fish without overloading the tank.
< Almost any community fish would work well in your tank. Small tetras, livebearers small barbs etc...>
Also, over the past year my filter has been  growing louder and louder, and I was wondering why this is (the noise is driving  me mad since the tank is located in my bedroom near my bed...)? I clean the  filter regularly, and can't seem to find the problem...
Thanks for all of your help, love the  website! Christine
< Disassemble the filter and wash everything well with a garden hose with a aggressive spray attachment, especially around the impeller. Sometime small grains off sand or carbon get between the impeller and the sides of the filter causing the grinding sound.-Chuck>

Bio-Wheel Replacement   1/11/06
Great info here.  I have a quick question.  I am converting my saltwater tank to freshwater.  I wanted to see if I could reuse the BioWheels from my Magnum 350 after rinsing/soaking them in freshwater, or if they will need to be replaced.  Thanks for your help.
< Rinse them out and add Bio-Spira from Marineland to the tank and you will be ready to go.-Chuck>

Bouncing Bio Wheel
Here I am resending this email. Oh and by the by, all my ammonia issues have finally resolved themselves!
<Great. Probably the number one killer of fish. Bio filtration is very important>
Greetings, and my deepest thanks for ANYTHING you can help me out with. Ok, so here's my issue, but first, I'm sure you will want to know all about my tanks, and such, (although that isn't terribly pertinent to my question). I have two ten gallons (I'm 16 and I baby-sit, so my income is hilarious, otherwise I'd have 55 gallon tanks or something) one of the tens is filtered with a penguin bio wheel mini, and the other, has two of these absolutely dirt cheap box filter thingy deals. And up until recently the cheapo filters had run for a year, with no fish killing problems. 
One of the tens, houses about 10 or 15 Dalmatian lyre tail molly fry, which are almost a month old. And to be brutally honest, I have no idea why they are still alive, and apparently thriving. Crazy ammonia levels have forced me to perform water changes just about every other day, which I fear is only sending the ammonia/nitrate/nitrite cycle dealy even more out of whack.
<Your work at water changes are why the fry are alive. Water changes will slow, but not stop, the establishment of the bacteria needed to cycle. I would suggest a simple change here. Replace the boxes with sponge filters. Since there is no floss to replace, bacteria will continue to thrive in the filter rather them be thrown away when you service the box. There is no real need for particle (floss) or chemical (charcoal) filtration if you do partial water changes as needed.>
You'd think that would be my problem, but it isn't. Moving along to the OTHER tank, all of ITS issues started, when I started switching the filter's around in the different tanks. I moved the bio-wheel from the now-molly fry tank, to what I christened the Death Tank, so that the babies wouldn't all get sucked up into it. This of course, left the fry tank filter-less, so I put the two box filters in there. 
Well, unfortunately, in the past week or so, I've switched them around again, because the fry are big enough to NOT get sucked up and I want them to have the nicer filter because they are oh-so endearing. Gosh, I'm really sorry to whoever is reading this, I realize it's long and confusing but please bear with me.
So, here's where the question comes in: Because my death tank seems to have un-cycled itself (and by that I mean, the ammonia which had previously been flawless, is high, and who the heck knows what the nitrate and nitrite are even doing?!)...
<You should be testing for nitrite and nitrate, not just ammonia. Very important> 
...fish have been succumbing to these stresses and developing illnesses. A week ago, one of my cherry barbs (which I've had for a year-ish) decided to get dropsy. He looked hilarious, but it ended sadly, when after treating with some Jungle Fungus stuff in conjunction with Jungle Parasite stuff. (I'd read it could be either, although I'm not sure my diagnosis was correct.) He died. Yesterday, I started treating my death tank for Ick.
<Most bloating is caused by an internal bacterial infection. Fungus and parasite meds would be of little use. A medicated anti bacterial flake food may have been a better choice. Even a good wide spectrum antibiotic in the water may have been better. And why are you treating for Ich? First, you make no mention of white spots on the fish. Second, you already treated for parasites. Do not treat unless you need to> 
Here's the part that I simply don't understand: For all of these medicine's I've been using to treat my cursed tank, they say to discontinue carbon filtration, which with my set-up, is all the mechanical filtration I've got. So what I've been doing, is putting the box filters into the fry tank, which has remained untreated, putting the bio-wheel filter into the death tank, which I first take the filter pad out of, because of course, it contains carbon. No wonder my tank is so screwed up! 
Can the bio-wheel alone handle the filtration of 1 female Betta, two adult mollies, and two barbs? I sort of doubt it.
<There are three types of filtration. Particle filtration simply removes any junk floating in the water. Any waste or old food that hits the bottom will usually stay there until removed with a gravel vac during water changes. This is less important than most people think. A good water change schedule removes far more junk than even the best filters. The second type of filtration is chemical. Usually done by adding charcoal. You only need chemical filtration if you are trying to remove a chemical, such as at the end of a med treatment. You can simply cut the black plastic cage on the filter insert and shake out most of the charcoal. The third, and by far the most important, is bio filtration. This is establishing a bacterial colony to convert the ammonia produced by the fish into nitrite, then finally nitrate. Most of the bacteria in your system lives on that bio wheel. It must be considered as if, and treated like, it was alive. In fact it is, with millions of lives working to keep your fish alive. When you start moving bio wheels around you may stress or kill the colony. Also, antibacterial meds will nuke the colony. That's what causes the ammonia to spike. Please read here on establishing FW cycling. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm
Could you possibly tell me how in the world I'm supposed to keep the tank clean, while medicating it?
Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated.
<Stop all treatments and work towards re establishing your bio filtration. If you do treat you must do water changes to correct ammonia or nitrite spikes, replacing the med with each>
Thank you so much again, I'm sorry this is so long.
Liz
<No problem. Don>

Sand + AquaClear = uh oh...
Thank you for your previous quick and helpful responses. I thought I'd bounce this off you guys. So here's the scenario. I have just set up a tank. About six months ago I had a freshwater tank. I decided to add marine sand. I neglected to turn off the Aquaclear. Some sand got into the filter. I heard what can best be described as the filter trying to clear it's throat. And choke - choke -nothing. No sound. No motion. Dead in five. So it hasn't been junked yet and is just sitting there. Does it go? 
<Mmm, hopefully not>
Or should I try a new impellor thing-a-ma-jiggy?
<Maybe>
It would be great if I could somehow salvage it but alas I fear it has become permanently non-perfunctory.
<Heee!>
If I could get it to work I'd have added flow, could but some foam in there for bacteria; it would be quite a boon. What do you suggest? - Ishan
<Take the unit apart completely and rinse any/all bits of sand out of it... and see if it will start again... if it makes a bit of sound like it's trying to start, give the filter box a slight bump with your hand... If it still won't go, take it to your dealers for a look-see... if still no go, write the folks at Hagen (the manufacturer and ask for help. Bob Fenner>

Re: Sand + AquaClear = uh oh...
I rinsed the motor when it happened. I tried just plugging it up with little water to see if it would go. And it did - sort of. It is still a bit shoddy though. It makes a lot of noise now. Perhaps a few more cleanings and the little guy will finally smooth out. Thank you once again for your speedy responses - WWM - is the best! - Ishan
<I would do what you're doing... likely just a bit of a bit of gunk... that will clear itself or wear down... Bob Fenner>

Was a stinky FW system, wish Chuck would supply titles
Thanks Chuck for getting back to me so fast!!! You were a wonderful help! My tank is now clear and not smelling so bad. The ammonia is still high but we are doing water changes every other day. My LFS doesn't carry Amquel, but we are traveling 65 miles to a really great fish store to get some. Hopefully it and the water changes will work. Oh, we also bought a Magnum 350 Pro Series canister filter and it seems to be helping also. Anyways, I just wanted to say a big thank you for helping me out!!
< When the bacteria grow on the BioWheels you should almost never have an ammonia problem again. Next time you need to medicate you can simply store the wheels for a few days during treatment and then replace them after the medication is removed and you won't miss a beat.-Chuck>
Dayna

Whisper Filter Won't Prime
Hi All!! If anyone can help me... you can.
I have a Whisper 20 hang-on-tank filter that has a hard time priming. The impeller spins, and it moves water, but will not pull water up the standard tube. It will prime after a while... if I force feed it to get it going... but on its own its mostly won't pull.
Once it gets primed it works GREAT!! But it takes FOREVER to get going.
Any suggestions other than getting a new one?? That is in the plans.. but probably after the first of the year.
Paul
<I would suggest you check their website for this answer. Maybe contact their customer service department. Sorry, but I use Marineland filters. They prime great. Don>

Re: increase hob overflow box flow rate?
Thank You for the response Chuck. I understand what you are saying. But, my
siphon tubes are extended about 2" below the water level in the intake box,
the intake box bottom is about 2 1/2" below water level and the slots in the
intake box extend about 1" below water level. In the back box the siphon
tubes are 1" longer than they are in the intake box. There is a weir in the
back box between the siphon tubes and the 1 1/2" Durso stand pipe drain, the
top of this weir is positioned 1/2" below the slots and a 1/2" above the
siphon tube bottoms in the intake box to maintain a siphon during a power
loss. While the system in running the water level in the back box behind the
weir at the standpipe is about 2" below the normal tank level, but only
about an 1" below the weir. Could my weir be causing back pressure on the
siphon tubes and if it is how would I maintain a siphon during a power loss
without it?
< Measure the actual pump volume at the current aquarium level. If it is at least 300 gallons per hour then it is OK. A rate of 400 to 500 gallons per hour would be better. Increase the pumping rate slowly until it looks like the system cannot handle any more and measure the pump rate again. This will be the maximum capacity of the system. As the water level in the aquarium increases then the flow rate of the siphon between the two water levels should also increase. To increase the flow rate between the two boxes I would make sure that the friction in the siphon tubes was kept to a minimum by making sure that they were clean. If you decide to lower the weir then I would make sure I had a longer siphon tube as it exits into the outer box.-Chuck>
Thank You Much
Rich Ducham

Re: increase hob overflow box flow rate?
Thanks for the advice again Chuck. A few days ago I raised the water level
in the main tank (as you explained the first time, my bad) as the sump level
began to rise I slowly opened the valve on the return line from the pump. By
having a little patience, I now have the valve almost full open. I seem to
have to add about a 1/2 gallon of water each morning due to evaporation to
keep the sump level where needed this keeps the proper flow through my weir
system to turn my bio wheels. I had set it up originally that on a power
outage the sump would fill to within about 6 gallons of being full to avoid
overflows. After raising the main tank level to increase the flow I did
another power outage test, it fills the sump to within about 3 gallons of
full (close but no overflows!!!!). I put a small rotometer from work on the
drain and measured ~1175 gph. Amazing how a little higher level in the main
tank can affect the drain flow so drastically. So to reward myself I added a
male and a female Demasoni to the tank crew today, 20 little Mbuna
baddies!!!! Now my wife said I can start a saltwater tank, so I may have
more questions down the road:-) Thanks for the time to answer back it made a
world of difference. I knew those chemies weren't all their cracked up to
be!!!! LOL
< If the water backs up into the sump through the hose running from the pump into the tank then you need to get a one way check valve that will prevent this from happening during power outages. Go to Drsfostersmith.com and check out the valves.-Chuck>
Thanks,
Rich D.

Re: increase hob overflow box flow rate?
Thanks again Chuck. I tested the system again. When I cut the power to the
return pump the water in the overflow box drains to the sump until the
main tank level reaches the bottom of the intake box slots. The return
line also then drains back to the sump (the lowest point of the return
manifold piping in the tank is even with the bottom of the intake box
slots). After water flow has stopped draining back to the sump from the
drain line and return line the water stops rising at about 2" from the top
of the sump. Does that sound OK or am I still missing something and may have
a flood?
< If this is the most water you have in your sump then you should be OK . The Marineland SOS system does not continue to siphon after the power is turned off. You may want to take a look at that system to look at the way they prevent any further siphoning. Usually the water siphons back to the sump through he pump hose from the aquarium. That is why I recommended the check valve. If the water still siphons through the main drain line then a check valve would be useless.-Chuck>
Rich D.

 

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