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Pond silt problems 03/04/2008
My parents have a pond consisting of one small 35 gallon area that flows
into a larger 120 gallon area. They live in south Louisiana so there is plenty
of warm weather and spring comes early. They've had it for 8 years and keep
goldfish in it. It has filter/aerator/heater setup. My dad takes care of that
end of things (including water and chemical additions when necessary). Currently
they have two 3-4 yr old goldfish that appear to be breeding and five small
goldfish (1-2 inches). They (the big fish) have done this for the past two years
but they eat all of the fry. I thought I'd be smart and put them in the small
pond to spawn and then put them back in the bigger pond so the little fry had a
decent chance of surviving. Sounds great so far? Except there is a sludge/silt
build up on the bottom of the small pond that they keep disturbing and my mother
is afraid they will get this yuck in their gills and die. They were left in the
little pond overnight and part of the next day. I've put the male back into the
lower pond but the female keeps going to the bottom and getting into a spot that
I can't get her out of. What can I do to keep her alive if this stuff is in her
gills?
<Mmm, best to siphon this accumulating muck out... once a week, during the
warmer weather (the time when they're still purposely feeding these fish)... if
the basin is too low situated to start a siphon (can be attached to a garden
hose), there are venturi devices (see "Python" products on the Net) that can be
used>
P.S. my mother swears her two original shubunkins bred and the female dropped
live babies(18) and she caught them in a net and put them in another pond. Is
this possible?
<Mmm, not live... but some that may have developed from eggs...>
I keep telling her for whatever reason the fry were just coincidentally swimming
under her as they don't bear live young. Of course the male was on her tail
gobbling them up when she noticed this and caught what she could. We would like
to raise fry. Is this possible with this set up? Thanks for any and all help -
GC
<Please have a read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
Peruse the Articles, FAQs files on pond fish reproduction. Bob Fenner>
This Old House Magazine
Inquiry 2/21/08
Dear WetWebMedia.com,
This Old House Magazine would like to enlist your expertise in an upcoming
project. We are looking for the #1 problem homeowners have encountered when it
comes to an installed pond. Do their liners lift up?
<Rarely, but does happen>
Is the algae out of control?
<Likely the most common complaint, yes>
We¹d like to speak to one of your experts as well as receive any photos of
failed ponds that could possibly be featured in our magazine. The
article will concentrate on installing a pond properly and solving the
homeowner¹s dilemma. Thank you for your time and we look forward to working with
you.
Sincerely,
Jennifer Stimpson
<I am a content provider in the field... Some examples of my work can be found
here: http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
Bob Fenner, WetWebMedia>
Murky soil-bottomed NY pond
9/7/07
Dear Robert,
Could you please lend an ear to a distressed koi lover in new York state?
<Sure>
I have a mud pond, dug way before i ever knew i would fall in love with koi.
<There are many such ponds around the world>
the pond is 90 x 50 feet and about 9 feet deep, holds about 300,000 gallons,
spring fed, garden hose augmented this time of year.
<I see>
the water is murky; starts clearish in spring, turns brown in June, is slate
gray now. I cannot see more than 3 or four inches into the water. I started
aerating this year and have five aeration outlets going into the pond.
<Mmmm, hmmm>
i do not wish to drain the pond and line it because of existing koi population,
but am way open to any ideas on filtration that would be practical.
<Yes... some biological means would help... regardless of the make-up of the
water... but these might take a few years to have much/discernible effect. It
would help greatly to know the physical and chemical make-up of your water, and
the mud/muck on the bottom... How much soluble phosphate, nitrate... the
alkalinity of the system and source waters... And any management history that is
pertinent... Have you tried flocculants in the recent past?>
would you be able to help or recommend a good pond person to work with me on
this problem? I'm in duchess county new York.
<Mmm, unfortunately I do not... Are there "pond" or koi clubs thereabouts where
folks might be able to render a personal endorsement re?>
Thanks for your ear!
Maxine Paetro
<How to proceed... What is the biological make-up of this system? Animals and
plants? Bob Fenner>
Re: Pond in Duchess County, NY... murky... – 09/08/07
Hi crew! I was reading the daily postings and may be able to
be of assistance to the koi pond owner in Duchess County, NY.
In addition to being a huge fan of this site, I am a Master
Gardener through the Cornell Cooperative Extension program in
Duchess (where I live). Your pond owner may want to contact the
Co-op extension in Millbrook and speak to someone from the water
department there.
He can contact me directly at XXXX.com and I will do what I can
to help him with the technical answers he needs about his pond.
That is, if he needs/wants the help!
Dianne
(Hi to Alex!)
<Thanks much for coming forward Dianne. Have Bcc'd Max here...
and the further corr. below>
Dear Robert,
Could you please lend an ear to a distressed koi lover in new
York state?
<Sure>
Bob, you are a kind soul.
<<Perhaps a sole!>>
my pond is 90 x 50 feet and about 9 feet deep, holds about
300,000 gallons, spring fed, garden hose augmented this time of
year.
<I see>
the water is murky; starts clearish in spring, turns brown in
June, is slate gray now. I cannot see more than 3 or four inches
into the water. I started aerating this year and have five
aeration outlets going into the pond.
<Mmmm, hmmm>
(to be more clear, small air pump with a manifold attached to
hoses and from there, five diffusers, look like shower heads
about 7 inches across. since writing to you, i have reduced
number of diffusers to two.)
i do not wish to drain the pond and line it because of existing
koi population, but am way open to any ideas on filtration that
would be practical.
<<I am in agreement all the way around... the bio.-means I
mention involves "steering a large ship with a small rudder"...
i.e. using some "grass type plants"... that need to be legal in
your area... and possibly some marginal emergents>>
<Yes... some biological means would help... regardless of the
make-up of the water... but these might take a few years to have
much/discernible effect. It would help greatly to know the
physical and chemical make-up of your water, and the mud/muck on
the bottom...
(I don't know, but it's a clay pond and too deep for me to ever
touch bottom. suspect it's yucky.)
How much soluble phosphate, nitrate... the alkalinity of the
system and source waters... Bob, the water test kit purchased
recently is one of those test strip things. I've tested the ph.
independent of the test strips and it is about 7.9.
the test strips show nitrate 0
nitrite 0
total hardness 150 (hard)
total alk. 120
total ph. 7.6
<<Mmm, this last is likely consistent here... a bit high... but
no fast, reasonable means to drop... the plant material will
insolubilize much of the alkaline component over seasons time>
And any management history that is pertinent...
have tried EX1 or something. helpful bacteria. used consistently
last summer. this summer, used a carton, a lot of 16 oz
canisters, all at once, then recently another three.
i realize this is not a scientific measurement!
<<No worries>>
I used four gallons of barley water product, same time as big
bacteria dump. these products are all made by the same folks who
make Clearz-all.
<<I know of them>>
Have you tried flocculants in the recent past?>
yes, a few weeks ago. used four gallons of Clearz-all, then
another two gallons. was able to see koi swimming for the first
time, not just eyes and lips! it was amazing! effect of
Clearz-all was over within a day.
<<Yes>>
<How to proceed... What is the biological make-up of this
system? Animals and plants? Bob Fenner>
entire pond is ringed with cattails. this is to prevent great
blue heron from walking in. also the sides of the pond are
steep, at least 6 foot sheer.
<<Good>>
a few containers of water lilies. the pads are coated white and
not very beautiful.
<<Is it the alkalinity source that is coating these?>>
i have currently about 8 largish koi, 8 extra-large koi (over 17
inches) about 8 pond fish probably a cross between goldfish and
koi, bronze scales, about 16 smallish koi (under 10 inches)
about fifty small goldfish (2-6 inches) trying to net them out
and give them away -- not easy! any thoughts on how to do this?
crappie traps, minnow traps don't work.
<<Not really able to be done w/o draining... sorting and
drying... for a few weeks during the summer!!!>>
that's it. if there is a snapping turtle in there, he is too
wise to enter turtle trap or show face. no mammals.
would you be able to help or recommend a good pond person to
work with me on this problem? I'm in duchess county new York.
<Mmm, unfortunately I do not... Are there "pond" or koi clubs
thereabouts where folks might be able to render a personal
endorsement re?>
no, but I've now found something, FILE ATTACHED.
these folks are "area inc." located in Fla. they build a
aeration system per the specs of my pond, no filtration, no UV,
just lots of air. promises to turn over all 240,000 gallons of
pond water per hour!
<<Yes... can be worthwhile... depending on source/s of such
problems... to "use" up oxidizable materials... so they're
unavailable to algae...>>
don't get all of what they're telling me, but basically the
aeration system will be at nine feet down, sitting above the
actual bottom of pond; pump above ground. they say the addition
of all this air will feed good sludge eating bacteria and will
kill bad algae stuff.
they say that i will be able to see the bottom of my pond in 3-4
weeks. it will be pond clear, not pool clear. they claim to do
this for lakes and waterways all over the florida keys, etc,
mostly commercial grade. I've attached the schematic for your
information. if you have an opinion, bob, please weigh in.
<<As stated, these aerators/destratifiers can be a boon... but
not carte blanche... and the cost to operate must be factored>>
I'm feeling very optimistic. either on the verge of a
breakthrough or another sucker born. :) have sent them my credit
card and expect custom kit to arrive in 7 days.
<<We will see here... Please do write back re your experience>>
meanwhile 19 huge gorgeous koi from Hawaii by way of Japan will
be arriving next wed. and going into q-tanks.
<<Do make sure and quarantine these for a good few weeks...
weather permitting... Some real troubles (viral esp.) to be had
with moving Nishikigoi about...>
also, while you were out :), i found a place in Westchester
county, near me who do golf course ponds etc. they sell a black
dye. i have ancient history with Caribbean blue colored dye that
did block algae growth but was at odds with english-style
country garden.
<<Am very familiar with "Aqua Shade" et al... we used to "make"
alphazurine dye mixtures for such use... Again, you should refer
to the gentleman above... seek his help in having others examine
your water, system...>>
these folks say black dye is much more aesthetically pleasing,
koi will be fine, and this will protect them against predators
-- the other side of coin, once water is clear.
<<A worthwhile consideration...>
have you any experience with black dye.
<<I do... Looks like proverbial heck... IMO>>
bob, thanks again, this time for both ears.
papers from area inc, attached.
wishing you all the best.
max Paetro
(my webpage is attached with photo of pond)
<<I see this... again... please do chat w/, through Dianne above
here... Send her your email addr. if you're amenable. Bob
Fenner>>
Re: pond in Duchess County, NY
9/9/07
Thanks to you all for offering help with my murky koi/mud pond. I've
purchased the aeration system offered by Area Inc. in Homestead Fla. who have
promised that i will have clear pond water in 3-4 weeks through intense aeration
with their unique system. I will keep the group posted!
all best wishes,
Maxine Paetro
<I do know of this company and their products. They are reputable. BobF>
Re: pond in Duchess County, NY... koi
source 9/9/07
Hi, Bob,
thanks for posting my pond issues and for your comments to me. you are a
sweetheart. I have written to Diane who must live about ten miles from me and
hope to hear from her.
<Neat!>
as i mentioned, i have purchased Area Inc.'s system, should have it up and
running in 10 days, and I will report back.
<Appreciate this... as stated, I have used many of their, and other co.s similar
products over the years doing lake management... IF your problem's roots are
fixable by increasing DO, mixing water... this may make a big improvement. If
this issue is a matter of suspended particulates... other means can be applied>
if you have never been to kodamakoifarm.com, i can recommend it as a source of
divine koi to be purchased at auction online. i visited their "plant" in Hawaii
two weeks ago and was impressed by kodama's operation.
<Thank you for this. Doomo. I grew up in Japan... and have a great affinity for
Nishikigoi...>
if you love koi and have an addictive personality :) be careful when you go out
to the auction site, i speak from experience. the koi i have received so far
were more beautiful and healthier than i had any reason to expect, i purchased
these quality koi at excellent prices. if you're skeptical, i sure understand:
http://www.kodamakoifarm.com
see for yourself!
thanks again, bob.
i really appreciate your time and expertise.
I'll let you know how the aeration system works out.
all best wishes,
max Paetro
<Doh tashi mashiite. Bob Fenner> |
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Pond water testing 7/15/07
Robert,
<Craig>
I'm writing to ask for some help reading my pond water test results. I've guide
lines that came with the kit are so vague it has me confused as to what I need
to be doing, if anything, to ensure the pond is in shape. I tested my water and
have been trying to figure out the readings and was hoping someone could lend me
a hand. The pond is 1.5 acre and 35' deep and the numbers are: PH 6.0,
<A bit low>
AM Nit. .3ppm,
<Trouble, if so>
Nitrite 0, ALK 168ppm, CO2 40ppm,
<Spurious for sure>
Hardness 44ppm.
Thanks so much for helping me figure this out.
Craig
<Umm... I'd have someone come on out and look with other test gear... Maybe a
member of an aquatic garden club... or a farm bureau rep.... You might have to
pay for a lake management consultant to explain what is going on here... Do you
have a destratifier/aerator at work here? I would... Have you read on WWM:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
Too much to walk you through what these numbers might mean... but something/s
not right... Including your kits I hope. Bob Fenner>
Swimming pond smell like something dead in it
- 06/27/07
Hello,
My Husband made a pond 2 years ago for swimming, around 100' x 200'. This year
we put some algae killing chemical in it.
<What is the make-up of this product?>
There is one fish in it, our gold fish. The kids were pond jumping and in the
deep area and it smelled like something is dead in it. We see the gold fish and
its alive and there is a lot of tadpoles and frogs. It looks really nice. We
don't know if a wild life animal fell in and died and is at the bottom or
something else is wrong. Or will the smell go away. Do you have any suggestion
for us.
Thanks
Monica
<The smell is likely from a lack of circulation/aeration, less than oxygen rich
decomposition of material in the lower water of the pond... do you have a
purposeful aerator/destratifier? Other means (e.g. a pump, water fall) for
moving water near the bottom, exposing it to the surface? Do you have gear for
checking the DO, pH, what have you in this basin? This data would give you, me a
better idea of what is going on here. Bob Fenner>
Ponds, plants, filtration – 06/08/07
Hello Crew,
<Val>
I recently have adopted a pond (it wasn't a stray, it came with the
house I bought)
<Heeee!>
and I'm hoping you can help out a new owner get on the right track. I've
waded through the articles posted here on ponds and have learned a lot.
Thank you for the wealth of information you provide. I live in central
Canada (=cold winters). The pond is in-ground with liner about 4 feet in
diameter with a shelf about 1 and 1/2 feet or so covered in small rocks
and a deeper hole in the middle.
<Yikes... do you intend to empty it ahead of inclement weather, freezing
each year?>
I emptied water down to the shelf so I could get a look at the middle,
and because it didn't look like any fall maintenance was done. Lots of
leaves in the pond. I am not sure how deep the middle section is because
it seems to be filled with rocks about 1 to 2 inches in size.
<Yikes... a maintenance nightmare... I'd permanently remove these>
I started emptying the rocks so I could find out how deep the middle
was, but stopped as it looked like I was disturbing a lot of matter and
organisms.
<I STRONGLY recommend removing all... setting up a temporary "kiddie
wading pool"... using water from the pond, returning it after...>
In the very middle of the hole is a flexible 1-1/4 inch plastic hose.
One end is buried (still) in the rock, the other was below the water
level pinned under a big rock on the shelf.
Which leads me finally to the first question, would you have a guess as
to what function this hose is serving?
<Perhaps a useful drain line?>
It is not attached to any pumps, no cords that I can see leading
anywhere. I have looked around this site and others about pond
construction and don't see any examples of this. Doesn't look like an
overflow pipe or drain, as both ends are in the water.
Do you recommend digging out all the rocks to find where the other end
of this hose is?
<I do>
There doesn't seem to be any biological filtration units, outside or
inside though there is a submersed pump attached to vertical water
feature for aeration and surface turbulence. Remarkably the pond seemed
to be doing OK, no signs of algae, and when I viewed the house last fall
the pond contained 3 plump Koi fish. I did not test water parameters as
I thought I should empty the pond to clean it out. I am thinking about
adding the up-flow filter that is posted on this site.
<Ah, yes... a good design... Heeeee! Okay my design!>
It would be relatively easy for me to gravity feed this system, as I
have land lower than the pond quite close. The article suggests that it
could be gravity fed, although not recommended, but I did not find it
clear as to why?
<Clogs easily, with no real way to clean... upflow can be much more
easily maintained>
I see many benefits, especially for water changes. The gravity system
was not elaborated on, so if you could help me clarify that would be
great. From my understanding a hole a couple of feet down from water
level would be required piped to the bottom of the container. The bottom
of the container should be, I'm guessing, a couple of feet below where
the pipe exits the pond. I am no plumber, does the gravity of water
going into the barrel produce enough pressure to raise the water in the
container above pond water level so that it may be returned to the pond
via gravity as well?
<Ah, no... you've got to pump from one level up to the other... in any
arrangement>
Does the container then indeed need to be two feet above pond water
level? Can it be higher or lower?
<Can be... much better to pump up, let gravity return... lest there be
an issue with water level...>
And lastly, the pond is in a very shady location, north west side of the
house with no day sun and a big tree blocking any late day sun the pond
might get.
Searching through the plant section I found many suggestions about
plants that would create shade for the pond, but didn't see any
information on what could grow in very low light. The pond currently
does not have any plants. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
<Mmm, there is another approach to your search here... Look around your
local garden centers... to see what they have in-stock...>
Thanks for any insight you can provide. I've been reading this site for
many years for my marine aquarium, and have the book invertebrates.
Really enjoyed it. I'm hoping the pond will be easier to take care of.
Val
<I do wish this pond/basin were larger, deeper... Much more stable... DO
empty it to survey what you have... Generate that list of possible
plants... and we'll chat. BobF>
Pond Issue, maint... 5/2/07
I noticed your article while trying to research a dilemma that I
have. I have a 10,000 gallon water feature, which includes a waterfall,
creek, and pond area. It has no plants or fish in it. It sat for a
year and did not get anything done to it. It needs bleached.
<... for?>
I would like to put bleach in the pond WITH the water still in it so
it runs through the waterfall and creek and gets on the sides and start
squeaky clean.
Is this possible?
<Likely so... but is it to be recommended? You will kill all...
including beneficial microbes, insects, worms... And if this is a
concern with algae, pest plants... W/o solving the underlying conditions
that allow such, they will soon be back, perhaps worse. I would NOT do
this. Instead, do read on WWM re control of such, maintenance of ponds,
consider biological means, ozone... Bob Fenner>
Patti VonBargen
Pond oxygen, aeration 4/27/07
I have a pond that is an 1/8 of an acre and it has water mill and the
county agent said that the pond does not get enough air and that a
fountain or water fall would put in enough air how do I go about putting
in a waterfall in an existing pond..
thanks
Kellie
<Maybe biologically... with the addition of plants (rooted and or
free-floating), likely physically... by either pumping the water into
the air (expensive but possibly aesthetically pleasing... like a
fountain or waterfall) or for about an order of magnitude less in
electrical cost, pumping air into the water... as with a device
including a mechanical aerator, compressor, line... e.g. see "pond
destratifiers" on the Net. Bob Fenner>
Expertise Required! Lake size algae issues 4/19/07
Good morning
<And to you>
We currently live in the countryside and have a large 50m x 35m man made
lake. The lake is two years old and we are now experiencing large algae
levels. Last year we were able to remove the small amount but this year it is
never ending. The lake is stocked with Trout. We would be very very grateful
for any suggestions or products which could help.
Thank you in anticipation.
<Mmm, practical measures to consider include dilution (do you have a ready,
inexpensive source of clean water to overflow this basin? Chemical tests that
reveal the nutrient make up of the water, soil in and around the water shed?),
aeration (see Otterbine/Barebo on the Net) for encouraging chemical and
biological oxidation of nutrient (depriving algae of same), competition (other
purposeful plants... floating, emersed, planted... if these won't cause trouble
by penetrating the bottom soil... Predation... depending on what the local laws
allow, that you won't cause trouble if/when they get away if this basin
overfills... Chemical means are NOT suggested... very likely to be ineffective,
very LIKELY to kill your trout.
Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
the tray near the bottom on Algae, Vascular Plant Control... Bob Fenner>
Jill MacDonald
Leeches? Nope 3/11/07
Hi, I have a small pond, approx.900 gallons, with koi and goldfish. I
noticed when I was cleaning the filter that there was small little reddish-brown
"worms" but I don't think they are worms because they can hold onto the filter
when I try to wash them off. I caught a couple of my goldfish to see if they
had any attached and they didn't. I didn't try any koi because I didn't want to
stress them. Do you think they are leaches and if so are they harmful? Thank
You Sarah
<Not likely leeches... as these are obligate parasites (would be on their
host/s...) and most often black in color... What you have found are likely a
species of useful oligochaete segmented worm... I would leave these be. Bob
Fenner>
Trout Pond Maintenance Questions 9/30/06
Greetings,
<Salutations>
Two weeks ago, we purchased a farm north of Portland, OR, complete with two
spring-fed trout ponds...
<Congrats>
One of the trout ponds was ill-constructed, and doesn't appear to hold water
through the summer (dry) season... We believe water is "short-circuiting" the
dam via decayed tree roots at the base...
<Mmm, happens... can this be repaired expediently/economically?>
The second (larger) pond is in better shape. The pond surface area is
approximately 60'x30', with a maximum depth of ~14'. The pond is currently home
to approximately 5 x 16" rainbow trout, and a handful of salamanders... No
other aquatic life is present...
We would like to ensure the continued health of the larger pond, and hope to
repair the smaller pond in the coming years... Since we are just getting our
feet "wet" with the larger pond, we have a few preliminary maintenance questions
- more pesky questions will follow as we better understand our situation...
1. We found an old receipt for 70 x 12" rainbow trout... This seems like a
fairly large number for a pond this size...
<Mmm, not... can be much more crowded... safely, if fed... the water monitored
for oxygen...>
Are there any planning-level numbers we can use to estimate the number of
trout we should consider for re-stocking (i.e. trout per thousand gallon)? The
previous owners were supplementing the natural food supply with fish food; we
would be happy to do the same...
<There are standard works (books) in the field of aquaculture that will likely
list such per species. You don't list which this is... there are a few...>
2. The pond water is fairly dark (visibility is currently approximately 3-feet
through the water column). The previous owners attributed this color to algae,
and reported successful use of AQUA-SHADE, a proprietary blend of blue/yellow
dyes designed to block
out specific light rays critical to algae photosynthesis (see
http://www.aquashade.com/).
<Yep... have used many gallons, even dry powder pounds to make up ourselves over
many years...>
They used this product in the spring to maintain clear water through the
summer/fall... But we're skeptical...
<Me too... doesn't "last" forever>
The bottom of the pond is not "slimy", nor is there any "stringy" algae on the
bank or floating on the pond surface... The water is simply "dark"... We don't
really have enough experience with the pond to know for sure, but our hypothesis
is that this color results from deferred maintenance (i.e. overgrown/decaying
grass along the banks, decaying leaf accumulation, etc...). Any insights?
<You're very likely correct here>
We would prefer not to add any chemicals if they are not necessary.
<Can likely be avoided>
3. What is the best season for re-stocking the pond?
<Spring>
That's all we have for now. Thanks in advance for your assistance/insights.
Jude
<Mmm... you likely want to invest in a DO and pH meter combo... I'd look into
YSI (Yellow Springs Instruments)... and an aerator/destratifier down the line...
good/cheap way to improve water quality, curtail much in the way of pest algae
blooms... Are you feeding the fish currently? Not necessary in cold/er
weather... Do give a look at Aquatic Ecosystems site re gear, books:
http://www.aquaticeco.com/
Bob Fenner>
Green pond... Sludge adder... 8/3/06
Hello,
<Hi there>
First, about my pond. It's about 800 gallons, 6' x 6', Three and a half feet
deep in the center (for winter). I'm using a in pond 1300 gph pump, 18 watt UV
light with a gravel filter/spillway.
<Likely of too-small size, volume for the "bio-load" here, insolation>
I was using foam, was plugging up every other day.
<Know what you mean...>
There is
<Are... change in number>
seven koi, largest is 12". One small goldfish and two small Shubunkins. Anyway,
About seven weeks ago, I had a sludge problem. Using a recommendation from a
local pond supply/builder store, I used MicrobeLift.
<Can work...>
Followed the directions. Used 12 ounces at first dose. Then again four weeks
later, 4 ounce dose. Each time turning off the UV light for five days. The
sludge never reduced or went away. Now everything has turned green. The rocks,
pump, liner, etc. But the water has remained very clear. I had it tested a few
weeks back, They told me it was fine, pH, Etc. I need help.....
Thank you
Jeff La Porte
<Mmm, the incidents... the product addition, green may not be related... there
are "many roads" to controlling algal profusion in biological ponds... Please
read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdalgcontrol.htm
and the linked files above re my, others input here. Bob Fenner>
Pond Vacuuming, Water changes 7/31/06
Hi there,
This is a fantastic site. You guys were really helpful helping me combat the
Ick in my pond, and figuring out how I might top it off
without extreme temperature fluctuations.
<Ah, good>
I will be getting a drip nozzle for my hose. Now I have a couple more questions
that I can't find answers to in the articles.
Here's what I have:
1200 gal. pond.
In its second summer.
3 large goldfish (6-8") and 2 smaller Koi. 2-3"
Several water lilies, water hyacinths, water lettuce, and a couple other
plants. Frogs and turtles have found their way into it so I
figure it's pretty healthy.
<Likely so>
I have a pressurized filter and a waterfall filter.
My water tests very well daily in all areas.
After the Ick spots fell off, I realized some of those "spots" must have been
the beginning of something else, because now
they are "bumps" and some have 1/2 inch "threads" extruding from them.
<... Lernaea...>
I'm assuming it's a parasite.
<Yes... Likely "Anchorworm"... should be treated... with DTHP or Dimilin... See
WWM re these terms...>
The fish, however, seem happy, behave normally, don't scratch (yet) and eat
well.
I purchased Jungle's Parasite Guard, which recommends a 25% water change before
putting it in.
Here's where I'm confused. What exactly constitutes a Pond water change?
<Some percentage of the volume removed, replaced with new>
And how often am I supposed to do them.
<Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdmaint.htm
and the linked files above>
Do I vacuum water out with the Pond-o-Vac 2 I bought?
<Likely this is just a vac-tool for removing trash... better to vent "bad water"
along with sediment...>
I've only used it once because it only seemed to stir mud/silt/dirt up and make
the water dirtier. The pond's only in its second summer,
so how much muck could be in there?
<Little to a bunch...>
And what exactly constitutes "muck"?
<Oooohhh, good question... can be little more than accumulated "dust" dirt that
is blown in... but usually leaves, algal accumulation, unconsolidated wastes...>
And how is it different than regular decomposed leaves, etc.
<Mmm... more nutrient-laden, denser...>
I put netting over in the fall. How much dirt and silt am I trying to get out
off the sides and bottom?
<Mmm, about half to 90 percent or so... a bit at a time, during the warm/er
months...>
I read that some was beneficial "algae" (it's not green) and helps balance the
pond.
<Yes>
My pond water is not supposed to look like aquarium water, right?
<Correct. "Cleanliness is not sterility">
Also, if I change 25% of the water, how do I keep from creating another 3-5
degree fluctuation in temperature and not stress the
fish?
<Do on warm days... see WWM re... and drip/refill the system down the falls...>
I don't want to wait too long before treating them for the parasite. Can you
please advise? Thanks. --Judy
<Use the search tool on WWM for the chemical and organism names listed above.
Much to relate re cautionary, related data. Bob Fenner>
Water features - thanks 7/26/06
Hi Robert
Thanks for posting the tip about chelated copper on the Internet. You've saved
me hours of scrubbing!
Sandra Monks
<Thanks for the thanks! BobF>
Re: Question re: article on Fish Body Slime, now Nishikigoi Courses/AKCA
- 06/07/06
Hi Bob,
I had threaded some other responded down the page. I'll highlight them in red
for this message.
Best,
Spike
PS, scroll down
FAQ Crew wrote:
>>Hi Bob,
>><Spike>
>>Thanks for the reply and the advice. I have a fairly good library (and
>>there may be something in one of my books that I haven't found!) but
>>don't have good access to journals and other such periodicals. I know
>>and can find references to the fact that larval fish "breathe" thru
>>their skin (no gills yet) but haven't found good references on adults.
>><Mmm... I do scan the quarterlies when I'm down/about at the UCScripps
Library, and do recall (over the years) various works that touch/ed on this
field... Are you familiar with Jeff Graham's works on aerial respiration in
(mainly S. American) fishes?>>No, sorry I'm not. But I'll try to look up some of
his writings.
>Worthwhile<
>>BTW, I'm a koi hobbyists. We started a program (about 6 years ago) to
>>teach other hobbyists how to take better care of their koi. We are
>>always on the lookout for good information and for folks to teach
>>continuing education courses. Is that anything that might interest
>>you? See:
http://www.akca.org/kht/kht.htm (I have CCed our CE
>>coordinator).
>><Ahh... years back I gave talks at the AKCA's get-togethers... and have a few
articles in some of their early collections... Was one of the original honko jin
ZNA members as well... Looks like a very nice program replete with good
instructors. Don't know that I'm "up to snuff" with the later/greater
technology... as evidenced by my dated pieces posted on WWM's Pond subweb... But
glad to be considered>>
>There are some things that almost never go out of date, e.g., anatomy.
>And, if you're interested maybe we can talk about topics that may be of
>interest to you.
>Okay; let's do<
>>Thanks again. I'll try to hit a college or two.
>>Best regards,
>>Spike
>><A short run at/on BIOSIS, the Zoological Abstracts should show what is
current here. Bob Fenner>>Thanks again. I guess I'll just have to get off my
computer and make a
>trip to the colleges. Scripps is right down the coast from me. I'm in
>Mission Viejo, CA. And, I know a lady who used to run the medical
>library at UCI.
>Best regards,
>Spike
>BobF<
Koi Attacking New Plants - 06/06/2006
We have a 3000 gal pond in the panhandle of Texas. The fish are very
healthy and seem to be doing well for over a year in this pond. We have moved
some of the lilies from a previous and these plants and the fish seem to coexist
without challenge. However every time we introduce new plants from a local
nursery, the fish attack the plants and the containers. Usually in the first 24
hours, the plants are moved about the pond even when we put rocks in the
container and many times the plants are pulled out of the containers. The
plants we are putting in are more lilies, cat tails, and iris. Any suggestions
on how to introduce plants without having a battle with the fish? Do we need
to change plants?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
<This is a little bit odd. I would think that the fish are actually interested
in tasty tidbits that are on the plants and in the soil of the pots.... maybe
bug larvae, snail eggs, bugs, microorganisms.... I think I would try feeding
the koi heavily for a few days before introducing the plants and see if that
gets them less interested in the new plants. I would probably also like to
suggest that you have a large tub of pond water set aside just in case the fish
do attack again, so you can at least remove the plants to keep them from being
destroyed.>
Thanks -Dennis Moses, Amarillo, Texas
<I do hope this works for you! Wishing you well, -Sabrina Fullhart, Santa
Cruz, California> <<Actually, not atypical behavior... more so in the
warming/reproductive months, but Koi/Nishikigoi/Carp often do this period... may
need to be "fenced off", separated from the plants, planting containers. RMF>>
Pond problems? And English 4/20/06
Hi All,
I'm new to this so you will have to excuse me if I'm a little long winded.
<... no, just the lack of apostrophes and spacing is annoyingly backward>
I have a variety of fish mainly goldfish, shubunkins and orfe. I'm having
terrible problems with algia (think iv spelt that right)
<You could educate yourself using your spellchecker...>
my main concern is that I have a raised side in pond which is covered in algai
and have recently noticed that almost all of the fish (you would think are dead)
are lying still on the bottom amongst the algae for minutes at a time and then
lively swimming away , is this due to lack of oxygen or are they spawning? many
thanks for your help. Sue
<... not good... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
the Articles, FAQs files on Maintenance, Disease, Algae Control. Bob Fenner>
Replacing Pond Liner:- What to do with existing fish? 4/18/06
To replace my pond liner I need to remove two 14 Inch Koi and 12 others
sized 5 to 8 inches. I understand they will have to be put into a holding tank
for about a week. Is there any rule I could use to calculate how much water
would be need to keep them alive for this period without any aeration
system. If not what can you suggest.
Ken Brown
<Mmm, the bigger the better... and covered! They can/will jump... out. And don't
feed at all, really... but do need circulation, aeration... perhaps just a large
"kiddie wading pool" (depth not important if protected from much of the elements
(to reduce diurnal changes). Please see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/lnrspdabvh2o.htm
and the linked files at top. Bob Fenner>
High pH in concrete pond - 04/05/2006
I built a cement pond with cement from Home Depot. I sealed it with
Thoroseal and had problems with the pH being 8.4. My pond shop suggested
that I add vinegar for a couple of months so I did that and washed the pond out.
The pH is still too high. The local cement dealer looked up Thoroseal
information and suggested putting a 12% solution of salt in for one day.
<Mmm, salt won't help...>
This required 120 lbs salt but this did not work either. Do you have any
suggestions?
<Yes... You could try a good/strength acid wash:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/acidblchpds.htm
and the linked files at top>
Can I paint a rubber or neoprene paint on top of the Thoroseal?
<You can/could>
If not, how do I get the Thoroseal off? It actually seems like the second coat
of Thoroseal has come off on its own as it was a slightly different
color from the first and I can see that hardly any of it remains.
George Strang
<Can be chipped and acid-washed/etched away. Do pay close attention to the
cautions/warning statements re this procedure. Might I ask what your intended
use of this basin/pond is? It may well be that you'd be better off allowing
"biological intervention" here to cure the high pH/alkalinity issue. Bob Fenner>
Pond catastrophe... just maint. or lack thereof - 03/12/06
I wonder how many times I've asked you all questions. So here's another.
3 years ago my mom put this pond in our backyard. She put in fancy goldfish
not knowing fancy goldfish are not very good pond fish, there is a canal in out
backyard which very often gets herons... the fish got eaten. when there were
fish there were also minnows (wild guppies I guess) the minnows didn't get eaten
and multiplied and there are hundreds in there now. My mom found these plants
that look like a stem with leaves all around the stem in the canal they
multiplies too. After not being taken care of the pond got out of hand. Algae
grew in the sides and like I said the minnows and the plant multiplied. my
question is how do I get rid of the algae the minnows, but I can just catch them
and put them back in the canal,
<I would not do this. All non-native life should be destroyed/bleached, turfed
out on "trash day">
and the plant thing. Could I get an apple snail or something big or a few
Plecos? How would I get rid of the plants?
<There are articles and FAQs files re these questions... posted on WWM. Bob
Fenner>
veronica
Pond biofilters 9/8/05
Hello Bob,
Am interested in building a bio filter per your spec.s as shown on website.
Question - what is down side when electrical outage stops pump? Does not the
'bad bacteria' enter the fish pond when the power comes back on?
Thanx in advance
Frank P.
<Can indeed be trouble... if much "gunk" is accumulated, goes anaerobic...
regular backwashing, and discharging water over a falls or stream generally
discounts any such possible disadvantage... though one could leave out a
back-check valve or arrange a perpetual siphon... to drain the filter basin in
the event of such a pump/ing failure. Bob Fenner>
Pond Cleaning Service Companies 9/2/05
Dear Bob,
I was doing research on the Web and came upon your site. I read many questions
regarding pond health, etc. I work at a Golf Resort and we have 3 lakes that
continue to get excessive algae growth in the summer months. Our new owners
have instructed us to find a Pond/Lake management company that we can contract
the lake cleaning to. I have begun to search through the internet, but I
thought you might be able to give me a lead as to who to call. We are based in
Central California, Carmel / Carmel Valley to be exact.
I can be reached at XXXX.
Thank you for your time.
Respectfully,
Catherine Nagel
<Unfortunately, have been "out of a/the loop" for far too long to even know who
is "in the biz" in your area. I would contact other golf courses, get their
input on who they use... Including remediation... rather than treatment... the
use of aerators, trading out water/irrigation and refilling... Bob Fenner>
Leeches in tank, actually leeches in pond 8/9/05
Hi there. I sure do hope you can help me. I have a outdoor man-made tank (or
pond), with channel catfish, perch, crappy, and minnows. The sizes range from
about 15 lbs to little minnows. I live in North Texas. I was needing to know if
there is any thing I can put in the water to get rid of leaches.
<Yes... vermifuges, -cides...>
They are very small, look somewhat like a 1/4 inch piece of string. I can see
quite a few of them at the water line. Also I put some algicide in it about 1
month ago to get rid of all of the gunk.
<Dangerous>
It helped a lot with the gunk but now it seems like the water is more cloudy and
seems to have a stronger fishy smell. What do you think may me causing that?
<Death, decomposition>
By the way we use well water in the tank and I run fresh well water in it about
every three days. Oh and by the way my kids also swim in
<Am obliged to mention that I'd have a public health inspector come by and check
out this system>
diameter 40 ft
<_________________>
(_____________________)
depth I \ /
13 ft I \ /
I \ /
I \ /
\ /
\______/
<Use the "vermi-" words on WWM's search tool. Bob Fenner>
2000 gallon pond with koi and goldfish, mainly maintenance 7/28/05
Hello,
<Hi there>
Our pond has been in operation for 2 years now and we have dealt with some
parasites and loss of fish from birds.
<Happens>
We use Microbe Lift in the pond regularly and it stays pretty well off most
of the time.
We found two dead fish yesterday in the pond with no apparent reason for
death. The koi that died did have some reddish spots, but they were not
ulcers. The other fish was found in the skimmer and he could have just
gotten stuck and beaten up from that.
<Mmmm...>
I went to the store to get a test kit for the water after reading some on
the site. The pH test only shows as high as 9.0 and ours tested that high.
<Yikes... seasonal difference, elevation likely due to increased sunlight,
temperature fueling photosynthesis...>
The test showed that the salt was a little low. I want to check to make
sure that I should go out and buy more to balance the pH.
<Mmm, do you understand the concept of alkalinity? Might study a bit here... on
WWM re>
We don’t change
the water regularly, but we do add water on a regular basis. Is water
changing necessary in an outdoor pond.
<Is a very good idea in almost all ponds... Please see here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdmaint.htm>
(The pond was cleaned out and drained in early may of this year. The temps
here the past few days have been I the low 100’s.)
<Yeeikes... I do hope you have a shade cover>
Thanks for your help!
Shelly Wise
<Bob Fenner>
Hotel pond, koi health, maintenance/personnel issues 7/21/05
Hello!
I have a problem which I hope you can help me with. I have spent
countless hours pouring over your fantastic web site and many others and
have been unsuccessful in finding answers. I apologize in advance for the
length of this.
To begin, I work in a hotel that has a rather large indoor pond (about 4000
gallons). There is a large waterfall and stream leading into the pond. The
pond was completed and filled in the middle of March. We have 2 large
canister filters, a fluidized bed filter, and UV filter. About the end of
April we received the first "load" of koi. (11) 8-10 inch koi and one
(Stumpy) 3 inch. At this point all was well. Then a former employee
shut the pumps down to change the canister filters (instead of using the
by-pass valves) and failed to turn them back on for 3 days!
<Yikes...>
Hello algae!!
After gaining control of that lovely little problem (mostly by me scrubbing
the whole thing down by hand a little bit at a time every week) and
increasing the frequency of the filter changes to daily instead of weekly,
(the water would completely stop flowing on weekly changes)
<Yes... the filters are not made for biological systems... but pool, spa with
little solid matter in the water>
we received the
second batch of koi (end of May). These were mostly "butterfly" koi, 9 of
them, same sizes the first. All of the fish are very active and eating
well ( floating pellets, not sure of the brand).
<Do check on this... real trouble trying to maintain a system with some of the
junk aquaculture grade foods... Look to Hikari, Spectrum...>
Within the last week, I
noticed that one of the koi from the original batch is missing. I even put
the waders on and went in to the pond searching for any remnants of him, but
no luck. Killed by others??
<Very unlikely... probably jumped out... or was stolen!>
At that time, I noticed that 3 of the fish from
the second batch have black, fuzzy-looking tufts above their eyes. Two have
it on both eyes, the other one seems to only have it over one eye. They
look like dark, mossy eyebrows. Both of the fish that have it on both eyes
are similar in color, ( golden with some black spots and black / gold fins)
and they both have black "rings" around their eyes. I only noticed the
rings on one eye of one of the fish when they arrived. Are these "eyebrows"
normal, or do they have some type of fungus?
<Not normal... not a fungus per se, but a growth resultant from "poor water
quality">
Could the algae out-break
have caused it?
<Possibly a contributing cause>
So far in everything I've read, fish fungus is described as
being white or lighter grey in color. I have looked up as many pictures of
butterfly koi as I can find to see if this is just a physical variation, but
I have not seen a single picture with anything that looks even similar to
this. I checked the pH today-8.5.
<Way too high... is this what your source/tapwater reads as well? You want to
study, get the means to lower this... to about neutral ideally (seven or so)...
slowly... by pre-treating new water>
This is the extent of our testing
supplies, much to my disappointment.
<Mmm, perhaps a visit here (WWM) would do them good? I would have at least
ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, alkalinity, phosphate test kits>
Apparently the "expert" my boss was
dealing with told him nothing else was required. *Sigh*. This "expert"
also said the pH could go as high as 9-9.5 with out a problem. This seems a
little high to me. Am I wrong?
<No>
I am working on my boss to get a test kit.
In the meantime should/can I do anything?
<The addition of (aquarium) salt is advantageous, safe... inexpensive, will even
help with algae control...>
I have called around to local
pet stores (we don't have strictly fish shops) and have been told by one
that we without a doubt have a fungal infection and told us to treat with
Pimafix, another said "well, maybe, maybe not." Again, *sigh*. I am leery
of putting any chemicals in the pond for fear of either treating when not
necessary, or treating for the wrong problem.
<You are wise here>
All of the fish came from a
private breeder in Minnesota, ( the hotel is in Montana) ordered by our
home-office in North Dakota. Another one of our hotels has a similar set-up
with koi from the same breeder. They have had problems with parasites and
bacterial infections. Hmmm. They have been using Melafix but they are
having to treat quite frequently.
<These "fixes" by Aq. Pharm. are not really effective "medicines", but leaf/tea
extracts that have mild anti-microbial astringent properties... I generally
discourage their use>
This is their second round of koi. The
first 40 they had all died. I'm not certain of what killed them.
<... need to be carefully quarantined for a few to several weeks before being
placed... and never just casually introduced to an established/populated
system... the causes/sources of most pond diseases are well-known, easily
avoided, defeated... but principally excluded, detected and treated outside
main/pond systems. Breeders, their systems have full complements of vectors,
disease agents due to their very natures...>
Needless
to say, I think the hotel owners should have thought this all through a
little more before building such large habitats.
<We are in agreement here>
They are relying on their
regular employees to maintain the fish and ponds and none of us have the
experience or knowledge on our own. We didn't get an "owner's guide" or even
a phone number of anyone to call with concerns. I hope you can give me
some clues as where to start. Any advice is infinitely appreciated!
Thank you for your help!
Carrie
<Mmm, if you're interested/concerned "enough" you should read through a few
stock "books" on koi, their care... there are some that are better than
others... Look to the "Tetra"/Salamander Press titles IMO... and the scant
topical coverage on WWM will be of help. If you have time, you might look about
for a local "koi club" (there are many)... In all honesty and frankness though,
I would compose a small letter to your supervisor (and consider sending in
elsewhere) re the lack of preparedness, concern you have (valid) for this
enterprise, and encourage the powers that be to hire outside help... there are
folks that do aquarium and pond maintenance... I would sub-out this job. Bob
Fenner>
Goldfish behaviour 7/4/05
Hi
<Hello there>
I have a very large garden pond - twenty foot by forty plus foot, four feet plus
deep at one side, lots of goldish which do breed and so on. However they do
this every year and I now feel I need to know why.
They are mostly just hanging suspended in the water, like they were asleep,
although they did consent to eat a little yesterday and in the post dawn period
they make little bubbles on the surface which linger most of the day.
<Ah, yes>
Can anyone tell me what they are doing and why? No filter or oxygenator alas
but I have lived here for more than ten years now and have managed so far okay.
Thanks very much
Angie Watts
<They are experiencing changes in the pond due to the season... in essence being
poisoned... changes in pH, mixing of bottom water... You might consider adding
aeration, biological filtration... that will make this system overall more
homeostatic throughout the year. Bob Fenner>
Re: large submersed pond pump 30 Jun 2005
Hi,
thanks for the reply, my big pump is submersed, it's a med.-large one, I'm
still not sure of the gallons it pumps. My water is clear, not crystal, but I
can see to the bottom good. I think I will add a homemade filter box and
put my pump in the box to pull the water in. And I'll get an ammonia tester
kit and do the water changes. I have one question, do I have to do the
"de-chlorinator" when I add 10-20% new water, or will it just "mix" in with
the already de-chlorinated water and not be a problem?
<I'd likely risk not adding anything... I do this myself... all the time...
though there are cases when water suppliers "pulse" more disinfectant in to
supplies...>
Thanks for your
help. You guys do a great job.
Denise
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Very Large Pond Question, WetWebMedia
Hello Bob,
Let me start by saying that I am a huge fan of the "conscientious marine
aquarist" book for my 90 gal marine aquarium at home, and of the
WetWebMedia
website. I thank you very, very much for all the advice you give us there.
<A great pleasure my friend>
We are real estate developers in central Mexico (city Leon, moderately warm
climate), and in one development we have a sort of a small "river" with
about 300 koi carps in there. The "river" or pond, measures some 400 feet
long, one foot deep and about 6 feet wide, with some variations in with up
to 15 feet. I estimate it holds some 30,000 gallons of water. It is mostly
under the shade of many trees, which also means it gets a lot of leafs and
grass in it.
<Yes>
Along the 400 feet, the water starts out coming out of 2 waterfalls, each
about 4 feet tall. and then finds another 3 falls of about 1.5 feet along
the way. The water currently flows some 10 hours a day, the rest of the time
the pumps are shut off. We take out about 5,000 gallons of water every day
from this river for watering the gardens, and add the same 5,000 gallons of
fresh water (plus evaporation top-off) from a water well we have.
<Good plan, practice>
Every month, we take out about half the water volume and replace it with
fresh water, and have a beautiful looking river. for about 2 days. Then the
water turns a cloudy brown-greenish. until you can't see the fish anymore.
This despite the daily water change.
<Yes...>
We are currently not feeding the koi, as my LFS guy told me they would
simply eat mosquitoes, bugs, or algae that grew there.
<To some degree this is so... the fish won't be as robust, colorful...>
I don't have plants in it yet, but I've now read we could use quite a few.
<Yes, definitely worthwhile adding here>
The question is regarding filtration: What sort of biological filter should
we use? (an open one, I read. but size? Materials?), mechanical? and, would
a UV help, or is it simply too large for one?
<In this size, type system, the plants and ozone would be all I would use...
all else are impractical... too expensive to install, operate...>
How many watts would I need?
<Again, I would look into corona discharge type (not UV lamps) from a larger
company here. There are a few that make these for industrial
applications...>
Can I buy something that large at a reasonable price?
<Would have to define "reasonable"... Again, the plants... lilies, some
hyacinths (keep these corralled)... will get you likely 80-90 percent of
where you want to be, at low cost...>
I greatly appreciate any advice,
Eduardo
<Glad to offer it. Bob Fenner>
Pond, algae, illiteracy
i have a 1,000 gallon outdoor pond it inhabits koi, goldfish, 1/2(fish got a little
despite i guess) lilies, cat tales, and unfortunately in the season frogs mating in the plants. the problem is i have about 4" (maybe) of algae. i have used
algae killer
<Not smart>
and something gets rid of the muck that i put in to the waterfall to circulate through the water.
it's made a big difference but there is all the algae that not floating around laying on the
bottom. WHAT DO I DO?
thank you
Christa
<Read: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdalgcontrol.htm.
Learn to use your spellchecker... Bob Fenner>
Vegetable Oil... In a Pond?
Here's one for ya,
<Ho boy>
My step-son, in an attempt to prime a non-submersible pump went and poured a half of a bottle of vegetable oil in the hose per the manufacturer's
instructions,
<What the?>
which is now in the pond. It's @ 500 gallon, 4" deep. I tried to skim off what I could with a pool skimmer
net (which is now like paste) but it has coagulated into white clumps which is now on the bottom and
covering the liner. Is there anyway short of draining and scrubbing with Dawn to get this out? Such as a natural biodegradable neutralizer or an
aggressively large cooking oil eating fish?
James
<Thank goodness you have a sense of humor. For this size system, I would drain all (including plumbing, filter...) and use a detergent as you mention. Do take a read through our Pond subweb re plumbing, check-valves... arrange for this conduit to stay primed when the pump is off, out... and no more vegetable oil! Bob Fenner> Something re ponds
Hello,
<Hi there>
We have a small pond at our plant, what do you guys sell that is non-metallic? We cannot buy anything with copper sulfate.
<What? For algae control I take it... Please read re on WWM. Bob Fenner... we sell nothing but books that we write, publish.> Re: Indoor Koi Pond Question/Problem
Thanks for the quick response Bob. Your website was the only one I could find where there were actual people on the job and could contact someone
with my question. Way to go! If I could ask you, would freshwater sponges be harmful to the pond, if
in fact that is what they are, or would it be wise to try and get rid of them, and if so, how would I do that?
<These very interesting organisms are not a problem in any sense as far as I'm aware... I once spent a day with a friend in the service side of our industry, in a cold pond stream... under a bridge, trying to get some decent pix of these... they "come and go"... Bob Fenner>
Re: pond liner in tank
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdmaintwint.htm
Just to clarify
Given my situation, RO going cloudy is normal after a couple of days even if
there is no substrate?
<Yes, normal. Very likely the opacity is due to biological goings on, not simple
physical or chemical reactions... microbes are populating the water to such an
extent that they're making the water cloudy>
(just water and the tank). If this is normal this I'll begin cycling the
tank.
Again Thanks for the help!
<A pleasure to serve. Bob Fenner>
Unknown pink substance on rocks near pond
I have a fish pond in my backyard. I have noticed a pink substance on the
rocks around the pond. This has a consistency of bubblegum when touched.
When it dries it dries to a white powder-like substance. Can you identify
this for me?
Thanks, Donna
<Maybe... most likely a type of algae... but could be a combination of other
organisms, mosses, lichens and such... You could tell if you either took a look
under a microscope at a bit, or had someone else do this. Bob Fenner>
Question on toxicity of pond liner repair
I have a question. I have a 100 gallon pond set up in my remodeled attic
with some of the smaller fish I bring in for the winter from my outdoor pond. I
had to fix a minor hole near the top of the plastic liner. I was wondering if
the epoxy glue that I used can affect my fish in any way. Thank you for your
time.
Len
<Should be fine, non-toxic once the epoxy is set-up/cured. Bob Fenner>
Worms in a garden pond
I have an outdoor garden pond which was activated within the last 3 months.
I do not have fish or plants in the water yet, as i was hoping for it to clear
prior to purchasing; however, when i cleaned the filter, i noticed small tiny
live red worms. The largest i saw was nearly 1/2 an inch. There
appeared to
be hundreds of worms stuck to the filter. What are these, i would
assume
they are a parasite of some sort but i am not sure and most importantly how can
i
rid them from the pond?
Thank You
<Ahh, no need to worry or rid your filter of these worms. They are indeed
completely beneficial and you are fortunate to have them aiding your systems
filtration. They are likely some species of oligochaete... earthworm relatives,
and not parasitic. Bob Fenner>
Re: yellow growth in stagnant water - no sunlight
Hello,
Do you guys have any idea what type of algae or growth (it's yellow BTW) we could have in a concrete pit that is filled with rainwater and no sunlight.
< It could be algae or a fungus feeding off the carbonates leaching from the concrete.>
If you do, do you know how to kill the stuff?
< Get some chlorine from a pool supply place and follow the directions on the bottle. This will kill everything. Then change all the water or
vacuum all the crud from the bottom. If you have fish in there then obviously this won't work. You probably have some dust and organic matter that has accumulated in this pit and is feeding this yellow growth. The sediment needs to be
vacuumed out to remove the food source for the algae. This will help but will not fix it for good . Only a filter and regular water changes can do that.-Chuck>
Thanks, Winnie
Acid washing?
I've seen wetwebmedia refer to 'acid washing' several times. What
do you mean by this - is it simply using bleach (sodium hypochlorite) - or
something else. If its something else, could you give me the
name/type/brand of 'washing' agent you are referring to?
Thanks!
<Please delve a bit more into the articles posted on WWM here... you are
correct in that this is a cleaning technique involving acid (usually dilute HCl,
aka at 3 molar as Muriatic)... for ponds, fountains and such. Bleach as sodium
hypochlorite is indeed a conjugate acid/base... but is not intended to be used
as an acid in this regard... and NEVER together with an acid. Bob Fenner>
Overheated ponds (evaporative cooling arrangement)
I thought the following may be of some help to you. I sent it to a friend
who has resolved a problem with his fish pond overheating...
Regards
Peter
<Thank you for sending this along. Will post. Bob Fenner>
With regards to your fish pond overheating. If you wanted to you could make up
the following system that I invented to keep my marine tank cool.
I used half inch diameter black plastic hose, an assortment of joiners and
elbows, some electrical tape and a small powerhead (only six litres per minute)
so reasonably cheap.
I dug a shallow trench 40 ft long under the house. I cut six 40 ft lengths of
pipe. These I connected with elbows so the water would have to run along some
240 ft of pipe.
The small powerhead is placed in the sump of my trickle filter or in your case
the fish pool. The secret of the system is the fact that the pipe is only half
inch black plastic it causes line drag on the water and so this has a coolant
effect. The other great thing is that the small pump sucks in the water from
your pool and only has to push it through the pipe up and over the upper edge of
the pool.
As soon as the water flows over the edge it runs down the pipe system, along the
pipe and due to gravity and the siphon created it finds its way and climbs back
up to the upper level of the pool. This means in theory you could have an
aquarium up on the top floor of a ten story block of units and the system would
still run with only the use of the six litre per minute power head.
The return flow to your pool will only be about three litres per minute but this
will be quite cool ( about 15 degrees or less ).
If you really want to get sophisticated you can use an aquarium heater in the
pool connected to a relay. This means when the heater switches off and cuts
power to the relay the relay will then switch power to your cooling system. Then
when the pool cools the heater will switch the on and cause the relay to switch
on the cooling system.
As you are only working with a few litres of water per minute this is a very
slow process and when the weather is hot the heater may never switch on which
means your cooling system will run continually.
The service room for my marine aquarium when I was running it as a reef tank
with 2 metal halite lights on all day, the room temp used to reach 34 degrees.
However with the cooling system running the tank could be run at a steady 22
degrees.
Another system a friend in Melbourne runs is he bought a second hand
refrigerator and simply ran a plastic hose to the fridge from his aquarium and
coiled the hose up inside it.
Another I have done is use a small powerhead to a half inch pipe to 30 drippers
suspended a metre over my 2000 litre freshwater aquarium. A timer switches this
on three times each day giving the effect of rain on the surface and the cooling
system can also be used on this aquarium, however it very rarely overheats.
Along with the dripper system I use a air vented skylights above both marine and
freshwater aquariums. Also for effect green and blue night spotlights. So at
night with moonlight or coloured lights shining on the surface of the freshwater
tropical aquarium and the raindrops falling on the surface of the water the
overall effect makes great night viewing.
Hope this may be of some help
Regards
Peter
Water Loss in a Pond, and Winter
Hi, I was wondering if you could help me out, I have an outdoor fish pond.
<Uhm, not sure if I can help with that - I'm addicted to ponds, myself.... maybe
a support group? ;) j/k>
The fish are comets, the pond is approximately 460 gallons, 11 fish. During
the summer months I loose about 1 inch(5-10 gallons) of water every couple of
days.
<Reasonable>
I live on Long Island, NY and the weather is getting colder with some snow. Lately
I am losing about 2 inches of water every 48 hours. Any suggestions
as to why, I checked this summer and the liner has no leaks.
<Well, could be something's caused a leak in the liner recently, but I'd be
more inclined to think there's a poor connection somewhere with the
filtration/hoses/etc.>
I run my filter all year round which sends a small stream up to the top of the
pond and a small water fall on one end.
<Check everything doing with the waterfall, all hoses, every inch - hopefully
it's just something loose somewhere.>
I keep hearing mixed reports about whether to run the filter year round.
<A great article to help you with this: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/pdwintmaint.htm
. Unless the equipment is going to freeze and malfunction, I'd keep
it running. If any way possible, do not let your pond freeze over, or
at least not fully. Within that article are suggestions to help you
with this.>
Any help you can give me regarding this would be greatly appreciated.
<And further reading galore: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
. Lots and lots of good stuff here, I'm sure you'll find some
interesting fuel for your pond habit! Not an addiction I'd want to
cure, for certain. Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
Jeff
Pond aliens
I have noticed a proliferation of 2-4mm shrimp-like creatures (copepods, as
I have learned) in my pond in the filter net and such areas. I have
not examined my fish. They don't look like fish lice and don't have a
Y shape. They swim around inverted frequently.
<Could very well be a copepod of some sort, like Cyclops, or perhaps water
fleas (Daphnia), or one of many, many other tiny critters that show up in
ponds.>
Are they bad news?
<Unlikely.>
I am worried that they are parasitic.
<Although there are parasitic copepods, and other parasitic tiny forms of
life that will appear in ponds, chances are good that what you're seeing isn't
parasitic. Of course, it would definitely be a good idea to net out a
couple of fish just to check on them, make sure nothing's amiss. Also,
while trying to identify pond organisms, I ran across this page/site that may be
of use to you to identify what you've got: http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/index.html?http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/pond/insects.html
. Play around with the links and other pages in the site, and you'll
probably be running out to your pond for a cup of goo to stick under a
microscope. Lots of fun.>
Thanks for any comments, Roger
<No problem, Roger. Have fun with your tiny pond life, -Sabrina>
Bird poop in small goldfish pond II 8/27/03
Dear Anthony, Since I wrote you last week about what I though were bird
droppings in my 44 gal in-ground pond with two comet goldfish and a sponge
filter pump, I've now lost one of the fish. The "stuff" I'm seeing is
bluish/green shreds or matter in the water attaching to the plants.
<have you tested your water chemistry or had your local fish store do it. Its
helpful to know where you stand in this regard. As far as the matter... we
unfortunately cannot explain it from such a general description>
In your responses you indicated a good bio filtration system. What could I add
to the pond to create this?
<there are many wonderful filters on the market... Supreme makes a nice
submersible "Pondmaster" tray filter... and Tetra makes some nice
external green barrel filters>
Also, do I clean the sponge filter?
<yes... but rinse in some aged pond water in a bucket during water changes...
never tap water>
I have been doing that (and that may be the problem) therefore washing away good
bacteria.
<no worries as long as you avoided tap water (even then not that big of a
deal). Nitrifiers are stuck firm to the substrate and don't wash away easily.
Water tests will indicate if you have enough filtration... or too much
feeding/load>
Oh boy. Please any help much appreciated. Marty
<pond keeping can be fun and very easy... but it sounds to me like you really
need to read up on the basics my friend. Did you follow the links in our
archives I mentioned last time to you? Do consider if you did not have a chance:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm
there are some excellent pond books too:
Water In the Garden, by Allison... and Book of Water Gardens by Dawes (TFH).
Best regards, Anthony>
Bird poop in small goldfish pond III 8/27/03
Thanks Anthony. Perhaps I'm a bit daft (I think that's a word) but I have
read, and read. Everything seems to talk about a 1500 gal. pond or greater. I'm
talking 44 gal., 2 little fish (now 1) and he's no more than 3-3-1/2", pond
has constant circulation and lots of oxygenating plants. Water levels
read in the good to safe range, this has been constant. There is not a lot more
room in this little container for bio filter but I am looking into it.
<ahhh... I see. Indeed... understood and agreed. These "patio"
ponds/barrels really are quite handsome, but alas subject to a volatile
existence for fishes (even the day night temperature swing of 4+ degrees is
enough to weaken many fishes). Such ponds really work best fish-only... but do
enjoy the plants. Some snails too>
(I have a water lily and papyrus that hog the deep part of the pond. The
"outside" filters seem pretty expensive, I know, whine whine. Anyway,
obviously I'm doing something wrong or my other fish would still be with me.
<no worries... tis the nature of the beast. The small volume of water is
simply too unstable for many fishes outside>
I'm working on it which includes reading. I know you are being very patient with
me but I'm not getting something!! Marty
<in part, you have been a victim of misleading marketing, I suspect. In this
case, its all about size. My advice is to simply enjoy a handsomely planted pool
instead. Anthony>
High pH pond 7/9/03
I put two layers of 10 mil visqueen in my concrete pond five years ago when
a tree root broke the concrete. This year I am having trouble controlling the
rise of pH in the pond. I have never had this problem before and am wondering if
it is the visqueen causing the problem.
<very unlikely. High pH is so common in the summer due to massive
photosynthesis from unicellular algae (greenwater) instead>
I have a 6600 gallon pond with a filter (bacteria) and two waterfalls and a
creek that runs the filtered water over ten feet of river rock before returning
it to the pond. I have searched the pond for any bare concrete or metals, etc.
and have come up with nada. If you have any knowledge that would help me I would
appreciate.
<test to see how temporary your high pH is... leave a sample of water in the
dark for a day or two then test it. If the pH is lower... then it is not a
chemical increase>
I only keep twelve Koi but would like to control the pH enough to introduce a
few new ones. If I do a large water exchange the pH steadily climbs back
up--when it gets to 7.9 or so, I do another large water exchange. Help!! Thanks,
Maggie
<greenwater is the likely cause... advise us if no. Best regards, Anthony>
Hot pond in the summertime
Hi,
I live in Phoenix, AZ and want to stock a pond
with fish at my school. I need a fish that can survive in the heat out here in
the summertime where the
temps. can go as high as 110 or higher. The would get the afternoon sun which is
the hottest time of the day here. Hope you can help as this is supposed to
a class project.
<You should look for ways to mediate the effects of the sun here. Likely some
sort of shading mechanism (on poles, stretched above the pond) in the short
term, perhaps trees or other structure in the longer time frame. Cooling by
evaporation (as in water-sprayed-in-the-air destratifiers) or a bubbly waterfall
will help a few degrees as well. Is the pond already built? If not, making it
deeper (check with your local building codes for maximums here... perhaps having
to put up a fence) to slow the effects of heating, diurnal fluctuation in
temperature... do you intend to have plants? Some floating varieties like lilies
or "grasses" (underwater) can add appreciable thermal insulation. Bob
Fenner>
Thanks,
Pat
Hot pond! I love it so
Hi Bob,
The pond is one that was bought for the school a couple of
years ago and is one of the plastic ones. It does have a pipe that
sprays water in the air and did have plants which we will replace. The pond will
have a south facing wall and a fence that faces west. I was thinking of putting
some of that screening on the west side of the fence to help keep the heat down.
<Sounds good>
We start back to school in July and need to raise some money for the plants and
fish and would hopefully not stock the pond until November. I was hoping that
starting after the heat would help the fish to acclimate to the climate before
the heat starts again.
<This is likely the best time of the year to initiate stocking>
If you could let me know of any other plants and fish I can use I then can get
an idea of how much money we have to raise.
<Many choices here. You need to decide on a general A or B grouping of
tropicals that can handle the winter/variable conditions or temperate that can
adjust to the Summer/hot weather... Please see the livestocking sections on the
Pond subweb on www.WetWebMedia.com
Bob
Fenner>
Thanks,
Pat
Temporary housing for pond fish
Hi Bob. I hope all is well with you and your family.
You have greatly assisted me in the past regarding my 92 gallon reef set-up, but
I now have a question regarding my outdoor pond goldfish.
I currently have a 100 gallon preformed pond that I have had for about 5 years.
In addition to various plants, I have around 5 shubunkin goldfish that average
about 1 to 2 inches. We have decided to have a new 300 to 400 gallon pond
installed in our backyard in conjunction with a custom landscape installation.
What would be the best way to temporarily house my pond goldfish? Because of the
amount of work that will take place in our yard that will include application of
grass killer, I will need to house them either in my garage or house for up to 4
weeks.
Thank you. John Rowe
<A Rubbermaid container of sufficient volume with an airstone/small powerhead
should work. Cover it temporarily even in the garage while applying any
chemicals. Good luck! Craig>
Housing fish while new pond is built
Thank you.
Should 100% of the water be water from the pond?
Thank you again. John
<Depending on how long this will be, you may want to transfer some pond
filter media to a filter running in the temp holding tank to provide
bio-filtration. If shorter term (days and the end home being a
plastic pond) then water changes (no chlorine/chloramine, temperature matched)
will suffice. Pond water is fine if it's testing free of
ammonia/nitrite/nitrate. Craig>
Pond Maintenance Questions 3/5/03
Hi Guys, <Hey Sam, Phil with ya this morning!>
One more time need your help and advice...<Lets crack this case!>
I've had salt water aquarium for years. Live rock and fish but not a reef tank.
Recently I moved into this house where they have a very nice Koi Pond with a
waterfall. The previous owner told me that he really never did anything and that
he only fed the fish once or twice a week and added some water once in a while.
Having dealt with Saltwater for so long, I assumed that fresh water would be
much less challenging and that it's less work. But I disagreed with the guy a
far as not doing anything and just feed the fish only. How about water changes
and so forth... Water chemistry??<I have a small pond, it’s about 500
gallons. I use a small external filter for filtration. I
don’t recommend an internal filter, algae always grows on them and makes
cleaning them out a pain in the rear! I top off any water loss as
soon as I see it. I test my water chemistry every week or two. All in
all, no problems!>
I have not had any problems at all but I wanted to hear from you the care that I
need to take for this pond. It's a decent size and has about 30 fishes. Would
like to take my steps before things start to fall apart. <The key is not to
overstock, an overstocked/overfeed pond will have out of control algae and will
not have “clear” water. Please note that because ponds water is
not 100% clear does not mean it’s a dirty pond. The visibility on
my pond is between 75-95%, meaning I can see the bottom and the fish, I can’t
see the liner very well.>
Thanks again<Hope this helps! Phil>
Re: Pond Netting
SEASONAL SOLUTIONS, INC.
10,695 John Ayres Drive Fairfax, Virginia 22032
703.691.8753 www.seasonalsolutions.net
Dear Sir or Madam,
Our company manufactures pond netting.
Our suggested retail price for a standard 14' x 20' net is $14.95. We
have many other sizes and mesh openings.
Our product includes turf staples, flag stakes, find-it button and cinches.
Two years ago we supplied Danner with it's Supreme netting, and have been an OEM
for TetraPond.
<Both good companies>
We would like to be your vendor.
Thank you.
Neal O. Weigel
CEO
<Thank you for this. Will post on WetWebMedia.com. Bob Fenner>
Screening Material or Other Protection for Pond Fish
In searching your site, I see nothing that addresses what must be the most
devastating danger to pond fish in my area. At least it was
devastating to me to find all five of my fish gone this morning after being
attacked over night by raccoons.
<Sorry to read of your loss>
I am assuming the best (or perhaps only effective) protection would be a screen
or mesh material either slightly submerged or placed over the pond and anchored
down somehow. I am leaning toward stretching a semi-rigid material
with perhaps 1 to 2 inch openings across the pond and anchored by the large flat
stone material I currently have surrounding the pond. It's rather
small (only 3 by 4 feet or so and 1 and a half to 2 feet deep).
Can you suggest a material safe for the fish? I was thinking of a
vinyl clad heavy gauge screen or welded screen.
<Some folks find that just having a light poly netting (like those sold/used
to cover fruit trees to discount bird feeding) work well enough to discourage
predators... others utilize an electric-shocking line strung up, around the pond
edge... I have even seen light-activated alarm systems that triggered disco
music and flashing spot lights! Bob Fenner>
Please help!
Thanks,
Barry Codron
Screening Material or Other Protection of Pond Fish from Raccoons
Bob.
Thanks for the rapid response.
I have read and heard that no amount of noise or light, whether triggered by
movement or left on, are effective in neighborhoods such as ours where those
little bastards are so brave!
<And smart>
As bold as they were one night when I forgot the dog bowl out on the lighted
deck just inches away from me and my dog watching TV on the other side of a
sliding glass window persuades me that's
correct.
<Yikes>
I am similarly convinced that the light poly material wouldn't be strong enough
(they seem huge!), so I'm thinking of a vinyl clad welded sort of screen or
grate that I would try and shape and/or lay beneath the
surrounding flat rock. I had hoped I could find another idea to avoid
the effort on installation and later upon removal for cleaning, etc.
Thanks again,
Barry
(Frankly, I'd rather use a baseball bat or poison, but I guess that's not
too environmentally sensitive of me...)
<There are have-a-heart traps, relocation possibilities. Check your property
tax bill... it may be that you are paying for "pest control" or
such... and that the county, city will come and help you out here. Bob
Fenner>
Solar Koi pond heating
Bob,
I live in Mission Viejo and am considering using solar hot water
panels to heat/cool my koi pond. Is this an insanely stupid idea, or
what recommendations would you have?
<Not warranted... Nishikigoi need a "chilling period" every year...
helps with health, color richness... THE reason cited by many as the cause of
less-red "Hi" and "Sumi" (red and black) in "warm
water" koi>
The "pond" is actually a 40,000
gallon swimming pool (about 13' x 32' x (3.5-8')D) and I would imagine
circulating pond water through the panels during the day in winter, and
at night during summer to moderate the pond temperature. This would involve
many hours the water would be stagnant in the panels, unless circulated
through an auxiliary loop for aeration.
<Yes to having valves on solenoids, timer for diverting water during the dark
parts of everyday>
Otherwise, the panels would have to
be vented/reprimed every time flow through them was required, requiring
high pressure, electrically inefficient pumps and lower system reliability.
Any suggestions?
<This is a better choice than having the water "sit in them".
Getting back to a/the basic question though, to do this or not... what is it
you're trying to achieve? Faster growth? Not really a good idea... Of the four
principal criteria by which most Koi are judged, body conformation ranks as
number 1... you won't have proportioned koi by subjecting them to elevated
temperature... especially during the winter... I would let the system cool down
during the cold season. Bob Fenner>
Thank you for your attention in this matter.
Sincerely,
Bob Farley
Pond parasites?
Hello Bob,
I have a small pond (preformed 125 gal) containing 7 goldfish and 1 koi.
The biological filtration is good, water is clear, plants are flourishing and
fish appear very healthy. No charcoal in the filtration.
Question #1
I find tiny red translucent worms in the filter material when I clean it. I
assumed they were anchor worms,
<Not likely... adults of these crustaceans (they just look like worms) are
not found on other than fish hosts>
although none are apparent ON the fish. I treated the pond according to
directions (twice, six days apart) with a product from "Jungle
Laboratories" called Anchors Away. Ingredients are sodium chloride and
Diflubenzuron.
<Know the product>
I still find the worms in the filter material and don't know what they are and
how dangerous this situation is for my fish.
Any info would be appreciated.
<Not dangerous at all... analogous to earthworms in your garden soil, these
are very likely very beneficial organisms. Enjoy them as they are allies. Bob
Fenner>
Lois L.
Arnold Mo.
Pond maintenance information
I live in a 55+ community, located in the high desert, that has 6 ponds
in it that are approximately 2-5000 square feet in size. We are all
amateur members of a coop that has poorly designed and maintained water
systems.
<Well put>
The ponds are overwhelmed with growth and we are seeking
information on how to improve the situation. Can you steer us in an
appropriate direction?
<Yes... much of what I'll suggest is posted on the Pond Index part of our
principal site: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ponds.htm
and beyond this, I will help you along in what ways I can/may. First off, you'll
all benefit from understanding general system design concepts... you might want
to read through the "example pond" pieces... and consider some of my
suggestions for those systems...
Do you folks have livestock in these systems? What are they constructed of? What
sorts of pumps, filters, plumbing, aeration...?
A few times going back and forth with information and I will be able to detail
what your options are.>
Thank you so much for your interest.
<You're welcome. Bob Fenner>
Gordon Lewin
Re: Pond maintenance information
Just to answer your questions first. These ponds were designed to be water
catch basins for fire prevention when first designed, about 12 years ago. Most
did not hold the water and were lined with clay soil.
<Ah... likely with bentonite, older technology, mixed in to slow
percolation>
All of them leach lots of
water and will need to be lined as soon as there are funds to do so.
<Good idea... expensive to pump up, lose water... and one never knows (until
it's too late) where the water may be going to>
I got here
3 years ago and with the help of a few volunteers, got some material to line the
bottom of one of the basins that was dry. Today, it is the only pond that does
not lose water except for evaporation. There are Koi, catfish, and mosquito
fish in most of the ponds. The ponds are set up so that there is 2 sets of 3.
Each set fed by well water,
<Do you have analysis of the make-up of the well water? Need this>
recirculates water to a top pond, through a center
pond, to the bottom one. There are no filters in place except to keep sediment
out of the pumps (in each pond) that aerate or move water to the upper ponds.
There was obviously no planning originally to make there basins into attractive
water assets, rather for insurance purposes.
<Well put... and all too common... "We made it, now we're outta
here!"
Our facility is maturing now, and
the current residents want to correct the problems. I know that we have a long
way to go, but we need to understand what lies ahead.
<Yes... done systematically, with knowledge, not a huge, dangerous or
frightening proposition>
Thank you so much for your prompt response. Our resource list for help has been
totally empty.
<We're soon to be good friends. Bob Fenner>
Re: Pond maintenance information
I should have provided this before, but you can see our facility by going to
the
following address: http://www.jojobahills.com/
<Ah, thanks for sending this along... A concrete alligator? And can
appreciate your work done to restore pond #5. Butyl rubber liners are best, but
you folks might save some money, time from vinyl.. dimensions of the other five
basins and the interconnecting runways (rock streams)? Did you get the #5 pond
liner directly from Hecht? Do you want to start discussion in a general sense of
"how to make, keep your water "clear"? What is the association's
goal/s here, other than to stem water loss? Bob Fenner>
Thanks again.
Question about Koi and air pumps
Hello,
<Hello Emily, Lorenzo Gonzalez here replying for Bob, who is on fish-business
in Asia for a couple weeks.>
I recently "adopted" a 20-gallon tank (18" deep) with three,
4-inch, animated Japanese Koi. (Their owner has to move to another country, and
was going to flush the little guys!)
<Hmmm. Animated fish should be easier to keep, and ya gotta love that
Japanese anime... Oh! sorry.>
I haven't a clue about taking care of fish, so I've been doing a lot of
reading. So far, the fish look happy and healthy, however I'm not getting a bit
of sleep!
<Uh oh. Not good!>
I live in a studio apartment in Brooklyn, and the Tetra Deep Water Air Pump 24-2
is keeping me awake! Do I need all those bubbles? The tank also has a Biowheel
330 that seems to move the water around a lot. The owner has two 3"
airstones at the bottom of the tank operated by the Tetra Pump. Are they
necessary?
<Fold up a small towel and put it under the pump. Or better yet, get some
plants in that tank, if there aren't any, and turn the pump off at night. Even
get a cheap lamp-timer to run it only during the day, that would be fine.>
If so, maybe I need a new Tetra pump? The current one is approximately 9
months old. Also, are the Rena pumps quieter?
<No, if the little tetra is keeping you awake, almost any air pump is going
to keep you awake! And air pumps last just about forever - they have a small
replaceable diaphragm that costs a couple bucks at most pet stores - so don't
replace it unless it doesn't do anything at all. Just unplug/turn it off at
night.
Yours, Lorenzo>
Re: Question about Koi and air pumps
Hello Lorenzo,
Thanks so much for the timely response. I'll buy some plants and a timer, and
turn the air pump off at night as you suggested.
Any suggestions about what plants to buy? And where can I get healthy
plants? I've seen plants in Petland stores, but they don't look so healthy.
<Yeah, you definitely want to find healthy ones. Try a smaller, more
fish-focused store (sometimes "fish & birds", etc.), if you can
find one. You'll get much better advice there, as well. In my experience the
easiest plants to raise are the ones with broader, heavier leaves - like Amazon
Sword, or certain Anubias - check Bob's plant articles on wetwebmedia.com for
more information>
Also, will they live more than a few days, and will they require me to change
the water more often?
<Actually, plants will greatly improve water conditions in most any system.
By no means will you be changing water -more- often due to plants. If they get
decent light (a fluorescent fixture is okay, a double tube is great, direct sun
is very bad), they can live indefinitely.>
Lastly, will the Koi eat them and, if so, is it healthy for them?
<No, they won't eat them - but vegetables are good for everybody :-) >
Thanks again. It's really nice that you guys are willing to take the time to
answer questions online.
<It's really a pleasure, actually. The last thing to note about your Koi is
that they will eventually be much, MUCH too large for that little 20g tank...
you'll probably want to start trading them in as they get big. Koi can get over
2 feet long and over 15 pounds. You could replace them with new, smaller ones,
or different fish entirely as your interest directs... Yours, Lorenzo>
Re: Question about Koi and air pumps
Geez, there's no way in hell that I'll be able to fit a tank any larger than
20 gallons in my small studio apartment. (How did I get myself into this mess?
hahaha) I figured that the fish would naturally limit their size according to
the size of my tank, but I guess not.
<So when they get too big, trade them for little ones, or smaller sorts of
fish! Obviously I'm biased, but I don't think I could live in a 'small studio
apartment' in Brooklyn, without at least a small aquarium to bring a little
'wild' into my living space...>
I know it sounds weird, Lorenzo, but I want these little fish to have a good
life! <grin>
<How is that weird? Believe me, in this circle of people, that's not weird at
all. Maybe in Brooklyn that's weird? :-) >
What if released them into a beautiful Koi pond at the Pepsi Corporate
Headquarters in Purchase, New York? The pond is lake-size and
contains tons of large Koi.
<Yeah, you could do that.>
If this is a possibility, how large should I let my fish grow before I
release them into the pond? (They currently measure from 3 to 5 inches.)
<Any time is probably fine. They'll stand a better chance if you let them all
get about 6 inches long, but they'll be REALLY crowding your tank by then! If
they're different sizes, maybe you could release them individually as they're
ready.>
Would the adult Koi in the pond eat my smaller Koi?
<No. Koi definitely aren't cannibals.>
Also, would they know how to find food? The environs are wonderfully maintained
and I've seen tons of wildlife in this private preserve, but I'm not sure if
anyone actually feeds the Koi. However, I have visited the pond year-round, and
the Koi look fat and healthy.
<Somebody is feeding them. No doubt about it.>
Thanks so much for your continuing advise.
<My pleasure. And I sincerely hope you don't abandon the hobby just because
your first fish are destined to grow into giant living water garden
ornaments...! -Lorenzo>
Request For Guidance
I have an existing waterscape at an apartment complex located in Southern
California (West Covina) and I'm trying to find experienced and reliable
sources who can help me understand what is required to restore and expand
it.
<Hmm, know the area... but not in touch for years with folks in "the
trade" in the vicinity... Would do the following: read through the
"Pond Index" on our website: www.WetWebMedia.com and goose me into
adding sections on maintenance, repair, construction and/or graphics for what's
there... till you understand about what can be done. Then, get out the local
"Yellow Pages" and Internet equivalent and look under "WaterScapes",
"Landscape" (the folks who specialize will list so)... and have a few
of these companies come out and bid the job... say what they would do, and for
how much, how long it would take...>
The water is always dirty looking, and the waterscape is suppose to be a
marketing feature which is suppose to be the focal point of for prospective
renters.
<I understand... and can help you with specifics going forward>
Do you know any sources which I can go to find the company or person I
need?
Please advise.
Scott Sternberg
Ph: 310-385-XXXX / Fax: 310-271-XXXX
<Will post your request in our FAQs as well... maybe someone will "come
out of the woodwork"... Bob Fenner, who "did this work for twenty
years", but not since more than a decade back>
Talking Trash... Pumps
Hi Bob can you tell me where I can find one of the pumps that takes 0ut the
trash in the bottom of my pond? thanks Denise >>
>>
How big a system? How large materials to pump out? Gravity/siphoning won't work?
Take a look at the Grainger catalog or on line for small gas-powered trash
(centrifugal) or if it's a BIG job, diaphragm type pumps (and hoses!)
Bob Fenner
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