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Undulated Triggerfish and Coral Banded Shrimp?/Triggerfish
Compatibility 9/9/09
Hello all,
<Hi Eric>
You probably did a double take when you read the subject line of this
email: Undulated Triggerfish and Coral Banded Shrimp?
<Mmm, no, but I did do a double before I started today:)>
But that is what I have. My tank is 80 gallons and full of soft corals.
My only inhabitant was intended to be an Undulated Triggerfish, but I
received the Coral Banded Shrimp as a hitchhiker. I thought for sure the
trigger would have eaten him, but it has been over a year and the fish
shows him no interest whatsoever. The shrimp spends the most of the day
hiding in the same hole but comes out to feed on occasion. The trigger
can be right next to him and does not pay any attention at all. Isn't
this somewhat unusual?
The trigger is about 4" and the shrimp about 2".
<Yes, very unusual. There are some triggers that are relatively safe
with shrimp, but this isn't one of them.>
Thanks for any insight you might have, and thanks for all of the work
providing this valuable and interesting service to the aquarist
community!
<You're welcome, and thank you for sharing your experience. James (Salty
Dog)>
Cheers,
Eric
Compatibility 7/5/09
To whom it may concern,
I have read over your site about undulate triggers. I
have a 90 gallon aquarium at home. I plan to add 7 green chromis, a
golden butterfly, a purple tang and an undulate triggerfish added in
that order.
<Chromis viridis and Chaetodon semilarvatus would certainly get along;
Zebrasoma xanthurum generally tolerates non-tang species rather well.
But Balistapus undulatus? It's famous as being amongst the least
tolerant fish in the trade, and while Red Sea specimens are said to be
somewhat more tolerant, I think in a mere 90 US gallons you'd be pushing
your luck. Have kept Balistapus undulatus in a 200-gallon tank alongside
aggressive damsels, and even there, it was definitely "top dog".>
All specimens from the red sea.
Do I have enough room for my inhabitants to live a long enjoyable life?
<Excepting Balistapus undulatus, quite possibly.>
It would be a FOWLR set up. 100lbs of live rock and oversized skimmer
with lots of flow in the tank.
The fish are always my main concern.
<Your tank is on the small side for semi-boisterous species like Tangs
and Butterflies, and I suspect adding an aggressive trigger would lead
to problems. Do review the calmer triggerfish species, or perhaps even
the
more likeable filefish.>
Thanks for time.
Brett
2" Undulate and a 2" Picasso with a 7" Niger 4/1/07
Greetings WWM crew!, <Greetings. Brandon here.> Many thanks
for your help on my previous inquiries. I have one more for you. I
have a 110 gal tank (about 100lbs of live rock), and I've had a Niger in
it for the last 6 years and he's about 7" now (I think it's a he). I'd
say he's on the peaceful side (given that it shared it's tank with a
Percula clown until the clown died of old age. But he did kill and eat
a few other fish since the clown, but that was mainly my fault for
pushing my luck with other clowns. I recently added two 2" triggers (an
Undulate and a Picasso). <You are asking for it.>
Right now, the undulate hides whenever Niger comes out of his caves, but
Picasso is quite social with Niger and they get along fine. But, as
expected, once or twice, I've seen the undulate attack the Picasso hard
(no biting) just hit him on the belly, but that's when Picasso gets too
close to its home rock. <The fish can cause internal
damage by doing this.> Other times, they pass each other without an
incident. Could you make any predictions about the tank over the next
few years? <The Balistapus undulatus is going to grow up, and kill
your other fish. These Triggers are not social, and they have very bad
attitudes. I would move this one to a species tank and keep nothing
else with it. Further, I would not add anymore Triggers to the main
display. They need their space.> Thanks much, <You are
welcome. Brandon.> ND
Pair of undulated triggers?
11/21/06 Hi there, <Hi Kelly, Michelle here.> Considering
that undulated triggers are sexually dichromatic, I am wondering whether
it's possible to keep a male/female pair? Everything I've read says
they are best kept solo, but I have not seen this possibility
addressed. I have a 180-gal tank. <I do not have any personal
experience related to your question, I did try to find any relevant info
online without much luck. Your tank is a decent size. It may be worth
trying. I think the best chance of success would be finding two smaller
ones and introducing both fish at the same time, but it could be quite
difficult to catch and remove one if there is a problem. I would
definitely have a plan b and possible plan c ready to be put into
motion. Good luck! Mich> Thanks! Kelly Corals
and Tankmates for Undulate Trigger, Porcupine Puffer and Moray Eel
4/1/06 Hello, <Hi there, Leslie here with you this morn’in>
In my 100 gal tank I have a Porcupine puffer, moray eel, and undulated
trigger, question is can I put corals in and if so what type?
<Unfortunately not, your Undulated Trigger will eat just about anything
and everything in it’s path.> I also want to add 1-2 more fish.
<You will need a much bigger tank eventually if you plan on one or 2
more fish and you may need to re think the tankmate choices for your
Undulated Trigger. These are very aggressive and territorial fish and
should only be kept with like minded fish. Here is a quote from an
article called Family Balistidae by Dave Crandall….. “Balistapus
undulatus, or the undulated trigger, is a gorgeous fish; and it is one
of the most predictable triggers available. B. undulatus grows to about
a foot. They are found in the Indo-pacific and Red Sea at depths of
2-50m. They feed on a wide variety of benthic plant and animal
organisms. These fish are highly territorial, especially females after
eggs have been laid. B. undulatus is a sexually dichromic animal. The
males lack orange lines on top of the snout. This fish cannot be housed
in a reef aquarium. It will eat just about anything, moving or not. This
fish is willing to attack and kill anything that cannot kill it. If it
is to be kept with other fish, it should be in a large tank only with
large, very aggressive fish. There are some reports that Red Sea
undulated triggers are slightly less belligerent.” The article in it’s
entirety can be viewed here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/triggers2.htm> Thank You, Michael
Pursley <Your most welcome. I hope this helps, Leslie>
Undulate Triggerfish...Hope This Tank Is Huge! - 02/06/2006 Hi
<Hi there John.> I am thinking of buying an Undulate Triggerfish. I
read they are quite aggressive. <Yep!> Do you think it will be
fine with the following fish or should I leave it alone? 3 Clowns
1 Lipstick Tang 1 Sohal Tang 1 Regal Tang 1 Sailfin Tang
1 Purple Tang 1 Picasso Trigger 1 Niger Trigger 1 Clown
Trigger 1 Copperband Butterfly <If this system isn't at least a
couple/few hundred gallons, you're likely to have trouble already! I'd
not add this fish.> Thanks John <Sure. - Josh>
Trigger & buffer question 8/30/05 Hi, I have experienced 2
different times where a trigger of 4 and 5 inches in length started out
fine in my 100 gallon tank and after a couple of weeks they stopped
eating, then got a bloated stomach, started breathing hard, then 3 days
later would die. There is a big undulate (almost 7") in the tank but it
never bit them, she would let them know she was there, but did not chase
them. When a trigger is stressed, is the stomach thing I saw common? It
just looked like they had a full stomach. <Is very likely "just"
stress... like you having a "friendly" tiger in your house, no way to
get out> Second, I have been experimenting with baking soda and
borax. I have been reading all I can find, and with my own
experimentation have found that 2 parts baking soda and 1 part borax
produces 8.2 Ph. Have you guys heard of this before? <Oh yes> I
have been using it for about 3 weeks now without trouble (besides the
noted triggers) from a niger, louti grouper, lionfish, undulate,
miniata, coris wrasse, humu. (they are in various tanks!!!!) Thanks,
Dan. <These are the principal ingredients in most "pH buffering"
commercial products. Bob Fenner>
Undulated
Trigger... trouble Bob, << JasonC here, standing in for Bob.
>> Nice Site. You seem to be very well informed on Triggers. I read
the FAQ and did not see any info on Undulated Triggers. Probably because
most people are smart enough to stay away from the mean bastards. <<
I am a trigger fan myself and this is how I was initially drawn to WWM.
Bob is not far away and will appreciate your kind words. You are quite
correct about the undulated triggers. >> Here is my problem. I have a
4 1/2" Betta, 3 1/2" dogface puffer, 10" snowflake eel, and I just added
a 4" UNDULATED trigger. I know the rule when adding a Trigger. Always
make sure it is the smallest of the fish in the aquarium. I thought it
was close enough. The Betta gets nipped at once in awhile and is
segregated to a corner most of the time. The puffer has no fear and will
not give up territory. The result is it is nipped at much more. He
refuses to use is defense mechanism and allows himself to get nipped. I
was hoping one "puff" might make them more compatible. The puffer is
very healthy and vibrant but the marks he receives are beginning to
worry me. The trigger has only been in the tank for about 2 weeks. Its a
60 gallon tank. << you're right again, that is a problem >> Is
there any chance that the trigger will become less aggressive as he gets
more comfortable? I will be very sad if he makes my puffer unhappy or
even worse kills him. << it's a coin toss that the trigger will
either get better, or get worse, and if I was a betting man, I'd take
worse. Likewise, it would be unfortunate for this newcomer to spoil an
otherwise peaceful tank. >> Although I want to avoid this, should I
trade him in for 2 SMALL triggers (2-3 inches)? I would want a clown and
UNDULATED. Am I just a glutton for punishment or would the extremely
small size make them ok? << don't avoid it. No to the two small
triggers of those types - two baby attack dogs. Perhaps you are a
glutton for punishment. You could maybe try a small Huma trigger, they
are often on the lighter side of the temperament scale. >> On a less
important but curious note. I bought two blue damsels, two Dottybacks,
and 2 black fish that are similar to dottys. The trigger fed on the both
dottys then eventually the other two blackfish in order. The blue
damsels have been left uneaten for 2 weeks. Any special defense or just
dumb luck? Sorry for the length of this mail. << faster combined with
dumb luck. Give the trigger time and their luck will run out. >>
Thanks in advance, << you are quite welcome >> Bob Same
Trigger, Same Trouble Bob, I wrote about the Undulated trigger
problem. My puffer is a PORCUPINE puffer NOT and DOGFACE PUFFER. <<
JasonC again... same advice applies. >> Regards, Bob << Cheers,
J -- >> Trigger Tribulations Here's my question...I
found a 3-4 inch Undulated trigger, that is very shy. <He won't be
for long!> Every time I see him he runs and hides. Now here's the
problem, I have sea anemones (1 Condylactis). Will it eat or pick at it?
<Almost certainly> I'm also thinking about picking up some clowns and
a carpet anemone. <Not in the same tank, please!> Do you think
this trigger will have a problem in my tank? It's a 55gal w/ a med
porcupine puffer, large Tang, Blue devil damsel, Atlantic Starfish, and
a snail. The puffer has a good temperament except for small fish. Any
ideas? Erik B. <Well, Eric- I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but
there are a few things wrong with this picture. First, the Undulated
Trigger has a well-deserved reputation for being one of the most
aggressive, pugnacious fish kept in aquariums! It's not a matter of if
it will be a problem with other fish, but WHEN! Really should have a
tank of his own. A LARGE tank- this guy can reach a foot in length. Your
55 is too crowded! The puffer is an awesome, adorable fish, but he gets
HUGE, and needs a big tank with vigorous filtration. Just about any tang
will outgrow a 55 gal. My purpose in pointing these problems out to you
is not to "scold' you, but to give you an idea as to what you're getting
into with a fish like this! I love your enthusiasm and interest, but
please take some time to study future fish purchases before you act. A
good book, like Bob's CMA, or Scott Michael's "Marine Fishes", will go a
long way towards helping you make good decisions. Please consider
swapping these fish with someone who has the facilities to keep them for
their full life spans, and at their adult sizes, or be prepared to buy a
very large tank. You will be a successful aquarist, but you need to be
more aware of the long-term implications of purchasing large fishes, and
the responsibility that goes with them. Keep reading, learning! You'll
be fine! Scott F.> Don't Sweat The Aiptasia- He's "Trigger
Happy"! Hello -- WWM Crew <Hey there- Scott F. with you
today...Had server problems last night- I don't think that my reply got
to you intact...Got me on the laptop in bed this AM (scary imagery, I
know-but a great way to do WWM work!) trying again!> I have a 125
gallon tank with a Undulated Trigger and a Huma Huma both about 4.5
inches. I am aware of the potential of both Triggers particularly the
Undulated. My intentions are to get a larger tank soon. <Very good
intentions, indeed! These guys will get quite large, and quite
boisterous down the line. The 120 should be okay for a while, though>
However the two get along fine now an occasional snap by the Undulated
during feeding but they typically swim right next to each other without
confrontation. The tank is loaded with coralline encrusted live rock
which provides plenty of hiding places. I have two questions the
first is how do you tell a Red Sea Undulated from the more
nasty/aggressive I guess Indo Pacific?? variety/subspecies? <As far
as I know-this species does not have any instinct geographic color
variations. I did check a number of non-aquarium resources for you, and
was unable to find any information in regard to this.> I understand
Undulated Triggers are sexually dichromic --- I have a female with
orange lines down to her mouth. <Yep- the sexual color variation is a
fact. And I concur- you seem to have a female, as males do lose the
orange lines around the snout as they mature> Reason I am asking is
that I read the Red Sea can possibly become a long time tank mate with
other predatory types --- but the other subspecies? Makes survival of
a tankmate highly unlikely --- is this accurate? <To be quite honest
with you, in my experience with this fish, as well as the experience of
a few friends who currently maintain them- they are just tough
customers, regardless of where they hail from. They tend to become more
feisty as they mature. However, triggers are notorious for being
"non-conformists" to our behavioral expectations of them in captivity! I
have seen 10 inch Clown Triggers that seemed very "tame", and small
Crosshatch Triggers (reputed to be more "gentle") just beat the @#$%
over anything that they were placed with!> The second question is I
have live rock with what appears to be anemones growing on them. The
anemones?? are small and not very colorful ---kind of a caramel brown
color. Does this description sound familiar enough for you to guess if
they are anemones? <Yep- all too familiar, actually! Sounds a lot to
me like the famous (or infamous, depending upon how you look at them)
Aiptasia anemones! They tend to come in on live rock, and proliferate
with remarkable speed in tanks with higher nutrient levels or bioloads
(such as...a trigger tank!). Reefers freak out when they see Aiptasia
because they tend to overrun other (desirable) sessile inverts and
corals. However, in a FOWLR tank like yours, I would not be too
concerned, other than to see if they are indicative of sub-par water
conditions (probably not, though). The anemones(?) are multiplying
and the Triggers don't seem to bother them at all --- My question is can
Anemones and Triggers co-exist for long or will the triggers likely
damage the Anemones?? <Well, I wouldn't go out an by that tank-raised
Bubble Tip Anemone just yet! My personal theorem on anemones and
triggers is that the possibility of the anemone becoming a chew toy for
the trigger is directly proportionate to the value and attractiveness of
the anemone! Just not a great idea, IMO. I wouldn' worry about the
Aiptasia, at this point, however...Sounds like your pals aren't too
interested in them- yet...Aiptasia are interesting animals in their own
right- very efficient at what they do best...eating. In fact, Anthony
(Calfo) has even gone so far as to suggest that they could be harnessed
in a special raceway as a natural biological filtration supplement! They
are that good at eating!> Thanks in advance for your response <My
pleasure! Thanks for stopping by! Regards, Scott F>
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