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Bandit angels Prazipro quarantine
2/21/18
Xanthurus Cream Angelfish 1/17/16 bandit angelfish care 1/8/14 Bandit angel, slight damage
12/12/12 Angelfish Nipping
Anemone 4/7/12 Bandit angelfish suddenly stops
eating 5/29/11 Marine three spot angel system - 05/13/2006 Picked up a Flagfin angel two months ago he's very hardy, <Thank goodness... most "just die"> the tank is a 75 gallon with refugium and live rock , he's about four inches long should he be ok for one year. want to get a 110 gallon five foot tank or a 120 four foot which would be best or does it matter. Ron <Mmm, the bigger the better... regardless of length. Bob Fenner> Goldflake Angel Dead
in a Day, Apolemichthys in gen. sel. 4/18/06 Greetings
to the WWM Crew. I have been a long-time
fan/reader. I am stumped by the sudden death of a Goldflake
Angel 1 day after I placed him in my 260 gallon system. Let
me first give you the background. <Best> In January of this year
I set up a new 260 gallon aquarium: 1-1/2 inch sand bed; 150
- 200 lbs. of live rock from 2 of my other tanks. From my
start-up time through present, parameters have consistently tested at
<3 ppm nitrates, 1.24 specific gravity, 8.1-8.2
ph. Livestock for the past 6 weeks have included 3 Lyretail
Anthias (I male, 2 females), 1 Foxface (Siganus vulpinis), 1 leather
coral, 1 torch coral, some mushrooms and cleaner crew
critters. All 4 of the above fish are in the 2-1/2 - 3 Inch
range. All of the above inhabitants have been doing quite
well in all respects. Two weeks ago I added an
orange-spotted goby (v. puellaris); he has been a great sand-sifter and
has also done very well. This Thursday I added a cleaner
shrimp, which has seemed to thrive, albeit he does not clean the fish
as much as they seem to want. In my 12 years in the hobby I have always
wanted to obtain a Goldflake Angel, and I splurged and ordered one
online from a reputable dealer. The dealer told me they had
the fish for a month and that it was doing well. The Goldflake arrived
this past Friday morning looking well, and after a 2-hour acclimation
process I placed him in my tank. (I long ago gave up the
practice of keeping a quarantine tank for new arrivals, coming to the
conclusion, rightfully or otherwise, that there is less stress to the
new fish placing it directly in my main tank as opposed to a quarantine
tank regimen.) <A gamble... but a better one to skip for some
species, purposes> The Goldflake from the start seemed fine,
exploring his new environment without any signs of stress, distress, or
bother from his new tankmates. He barely ate at that
evening's feeding, but that is not unusual for a new
arrival. Saturday morning (yesterday) the Goldflake again
just picked a little at feeding time (a gumbo of Mysis, brine, plankton
and blood worms) and seemed to hide more than the first day, but
otherwise he seemed fine: no signs of distress, etc. I spent
all afternoon doing spring cleaning/yard work, and when I returned to
the tank at 6:00 p.m., the Goldflake was dead at the bottom of my
tank. He had several, wide bright red bands up and down each
of his sides --- appears to be internal bleeding --- but no external
signs of injury or damage. I placed him in my freezer and
plan on calling the dealer Monday. I don't know that
their guarantee will apply, but I am concerned nonetheless before
trying to add other new fish. <In these cases, you want to call
immediately... leave a message, e-mail... within 24 hours... a pic if
possible...> I have checked and re-checked all my parameters ---
even checked the test kits I am using (Marine enterprises and Tetra),
and all check out as posted above. All the other tank
inhabitants are still in excellent health. So I am stumped as to what
could possibly have caused this fish's quick demise. Any
insights you can share will be tremendously appreciated.
Thank you. <Only can guess here, but will tell you I've been out
with collectors of this species... They broke up an inordinate amount
of Acroporid coral to extract... very stressful to all (including
me)... And this species, genus does often "just die
mysteriously", particularly just after being moved. May have been
some sort of internal "time bomb" here... Perhaps the Siganid
poked it but good? At any length, nothing "jumps out" here in
the way of definitive or probable cause. Sorry for the loss. Bob
Fenner> Elliot Apolemichthys trimaculatus (three spot angel) odd behavior and possible fin rot 12/04/05 Hello, <Hi Katja.> I have a problem with a three spot angel. <I'm sorry to hear that.> I've had it for about two years. Over the last week it started swimming oddly, on the side, making loops. <Yes this is troublesome behavior. Is it limited to this specimen (how is the behavior of the tank mates)? Any sudden changes in environment, how is the diet?> Before he was swimming around the whole day, while now it makes a short round and retreats to the cave, where it is dark. He hovers a little above the sand turned on his side. He breaths quite quickly <Possibly a sign of trauma or even gill flukes? Have there been nay new additions to the tank and could they be subjecting the angel to aggression or perhaps an illness even?> and the other thing I noticed is that it seems as if its tail is getting smaller (as being eaten away) and slightly coloured red. The other day I noticed something like a very tiny white thread (about 1 cm long) hanging from his tail. It later disappeared. The fish still eats. I suspect fin rot, but I would like your opinion on this, before I start medicating it. <Was the deterioration rapid, as in overnight or did it happen slowly? Hard to say without seeing, even so go ahead and search WWM re: marine angel disease and fin rot.> The water parameters are fine, with the exception of some nitrates. Other fish are also ok. <How much nitrates? Please be specific this is important.> Thanks in advance for your help! Katja <Adam J.> Apolemichthys guezei 9/24/05 Hi Bob. I recently had the pleasure to speak with you at MACNA, and I forgot to mention this fish I have. <How nice!> I am nowhere near certain on any ID, but based on the 2 fishes I've seen and currently house, I am trying to narrow my searches down. The first time I was able to see this fish was at ERI in Los Angeles. I did not buy the fish, but I remember them asking $200+ for the fish. <About right> At first glance I thought it was an A. armitagei, but after looking I realized I was mistaken. The fish was a good 5.5-6". After getting back from Tonga, I noticed my local wholesaler received the same fish, at a much smaller size of 3.5". I jumped on the opportunity to buy the fish. At this point I was thinking it is just a Hybrid Centropyge, possibly between nox and flavissimus/heraldi. I've had this fish now for 4 weeks, nursing it back from an internal parasite. It is very shy, so I have not been able to get a good photo. The coloration on the edges & fins of the fish is black. The inside forms an oval, and is a dusky yellow color. The anal fin has an "X" squiggled along it. I have searched FishBase, Google, etc., and have come across a photo of the Reunion Angelfish (Es. guezei). I also noticed that Randall had gone diving for this fish over the course of several weeks and did not see a single specimen. Is it possible that this fish is the same? <Yes> Unfortunately I do not know much about the origins of the fish, other than the probability that it came from the Philippines or Indonesia. <I would ask Rob Miller/ERI re... he will know> Does this pattern on the anal fin that both fish shared help any with identification? <Not me... unfortunately I have not seen this species either... in the wild nor captivity> Due to the size of the fish in LA, I'm hesitant to think they are Centropyge sp. due to the adult size of both C. nox & flavissimus. Basically, I'm stumped :) Thanks for any input, Joe Russo <I don't think this is a Centropyge cross... as you state re size... and their body shapes (of the two genera) are rather distinct. Please do send along images when you can. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Xanthotis angel availability Hey guys, I have a question regarding the Xanthotis, yellow ear or red sea angel? It's not in stock on any of the websites and I never see it at my LFS, are these too rare? More rare than the Goldflake? Where can I get a hold of one? Thanks, Jason <Kind of rare here due to cost, hauling from the Red Sea... more common in Western European markets... not considered a great beauty (I like it though). Same sites to try: Marine Center, Dr.s Foster & Smith, Marine Depot (.coms). Bob Fenner> Goldflake Angels Thanks Bob. Are Goldflake
Angels that hard to come across and where can I find one, that would be
my second choice? Thanks, Jeff <Jeff, MikeB here, I find that
Goldflake Angels can be affordable (found less than $100) but that
depends on your budget. You can try your local fish store
(they could order one if they don't have one in stock) or you could
try online from one of the WetWebMedia sponsors. Good Luck.
MikeB.> Looking for Goldflake Angels Thanks Bob. Are Goldflake Angels that hard to come across and where can I find one, that would be my second choice? Thanks, Jeff <Not that hard to come by all year long... but not easy to collect in the wild (requires breaking up considerable amounts of Acropora)... Try Drs.Foster&Smith and Marine Center (.coms). Bob Fenner> Flagfin angel Hello, I bought a 4-5 inch Flagfin angel last weekend. <Not a very aquarium-hardy species> Did a 5 minute freshwater bath and put it into my quarantine tank. I noticed slight redness near it's pectoral fin but the fish has been active and eating. Today the redness appears slightly more spread, almost from the head area along the lateral line of the body. Is this fish in big trouble or as long as it is eating will it fight off whatever is bothering it. Looking for some advice to ensure it is healthy before putting it in my main system. Thanks Joe <I do hope your specimen rallies, though most who start to slide, continue to do so. I encourage you to read over the materials archived on www.WetWebMedia.com re angelfish systems, disease... I would supplement this fish's nutrition by soaking its foods in Selcon or similar. Bob Fenner> Apolemichthys easy to keep? hey Bob, I had a question for u. U have a photo of the Flagfin angel as being a desirable species for the marine aquarium but don't have any in depth info on it. <Depth? Maybe see fishbase.org re> I was wondering, is it a high maintenance fish or is it easy to keep? and same with the rock beauty. <Not easy to keep. Gets about the lowest survival ranking from me, most other sources. Every now and then a specimen will come in nicely, adapt well and live for several months... the vast majority "die mysteriously". Bob Fenner> thanks Bob, Jason We met many months ago... Goldflake Angel Hi Bob, we met many months ago in NC at Fish World, you might remember a guy that told you that, that `s all you brought with you a beginners books? And I said that it is a very great beginners book at that. Anyway for the reason why I'm emailing you is this......... This day, Fish World had a fish sale and i driving there to see if i would be interested in anything, i was a brown tang and red sea Sailfin, but also with that Jeff the owner of fish world said to me that he like that i took this Goldflake Angelfish, now he had a very badly biting eye and much not give much for his chances and he would cost $295.00 if he wasn't in his condition. So I put him in my 180 reef tank, I had few other reef tanks, but they had some mean tangs in them that would give him chase. Now today was his first day and i only knew what side the tank he was on and I wanted to be sure of his exact spot of location so that I may anchor for him broccoli and romaine lettuce right at his spot in hope he will gain much strength to do well for his better health situation. What I would like from you if you any ideas, what other things I could offer him in best for his survival? Maybe this would help you know who i am, i think i told you i have a pair dragon moray eels. Hope to hear from you . Bye Lionel ><{{{{"> <Ahh, yes Lionel. Glad to hear from you. This species of marine angel is surprisingly tough and you likely are going to save its life from simply having moved it to the 180 reef... I would soak whatever foods you offer in a supplement like Selcon for ten, fifteen minutes before offering and leave the fish be for a few months (not add much other livestock to the system). You won't see it much as they are very shy, but patience will pay off here. Bob Fenner> Banded Angel Bob, Zo say's your going to Hawaii in a few days. Must be nice, I have to stay home and shovel the snow. <Forget that!> If by any chance you see a 3 inch or small Banded angel, feel free to bring it back and send it to me. <Those holo holo's don't live in captivity> Old Town Aquarium had one last summer, but I didn't find till the fall. Another day too late and a $350 dollars too short........... Do you know any fish collector in Hawaii that may be able to help in this life long quest? <John... come visit them in their habitat... deepwater though. This species really is bunk in aquariums> Have fun on your trip, John "drugs saved my life" Dawe <Thanks. Be seeing you pharmacist type. Bob Fenner> Goldflake Angel 2/5/03
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=10938&genusname=Apolemichthys&speciesname=xanthopunctatus
Food items:
http://www.fishbase.org/TrophicEco/FoodItems.cfm?ID=10938&GenusName=Apolemichthys&SpeciesName=xanthopunctatus
Dear Bob, <Anthony Calfo in your service> I have recently been
given a 4" Goldflake out of a friends 7000 Ltr System. <wow...
buy that man a beer! Make is a good pint too!> At the moment he is
in a 100 Gallon tank with about 15kg LR and a single strawberry
Dottyback...skimmed etc etc. Feeding very well and looking stunning.
<excellent to hear. This fish needs just a little pampering for its
hardiness (strict diet and precarious health without it). Its not as
durable as, say... a Blue Caribbean angel or a Red Sea P. maculosus>
My question is I would like to move him into my 200 G reef tank which
has 100Kg Fiji and is1.5 years old. <Yikes... you did say reef?
Hmmm... a small calculated Rick here (eating desirable invertebrates.
If not nibbling coral... then certainly sponge, tunicates, etc)> It
currently houses a 'Vlamingi' Tang, Yellow Eye Tang, Sailfin
Tang, Pair Maroon Clowns (Goldstripe) and 5 Chromis plus two six spot
gobies and numerous SPS and LPSs corals. The tank is very peaceful with
the odd minor quarrel but no fighting. Will the Goldflake mix with the
others or is it likely I am asking for trouble. <definitely asking
for trouble. I'm assuming that the tank is peaceful now because the
tangs are both not much more than 6" (15cm) yet and the maroons
are young (less than 3yrs old). In time your angel might not eat coral
because it is too afraid to eat at all in this tough crowd! Do consider
too that this tank is even too small for the Vlamingii in the long term
(even if it only grows to half of its 60 cm (2 feet long). Vlamingi:
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=6024&genusname=Naso&speciesname=vlamingii
> These fish are very expensive here in the UK (about
450.00 US) and I don't want to put him in jeopardy. Look forward to
your reply. Steve. <agreed, my friend. My advice is to leave this
angel right where it is... do enjoy the safe bet. Best regards from
across the pond. Anthony>
Re: Red Mangrove Plants for nutrient reduction (actually, feeding a Flagfin Angel) Thanks. What is the best diet for the Apolemichthys trimaculatus in the long run? <the very widely diet that you are offering already is quite impressive to me. Be sure to simply mix up as many rich greens and plankton like substitutes (krill, mysids, Gammarus, etc). Also some sponge from Angel Formula and the rotation of live rock for nibbling periodically. Do consider a home made fish food recipe like found in Bob's Conscientious Marine Aquarist, here on Wet Web Media.com and beyond. A homemade recipe could be the most nutritious with a rich mixture of high protein crustacea and plant matter. Best regards, Anthony> Goldflake angelfish hello, I have been keeping angelfish for a number of years now and I still haven't found any in-depth information on Goldflake angelfish. All I know is that you rank them a (1) which must mean they are pretty hardy. <My highest rating of three> The owner of the LFS that I shop at told me that they are not that hardy of fish and that is why he rarely picks them up from the wholesaler in Tampa bay fl. <Okay> I don't know which information is true. Even though he is selling him to me for a discounted price- $175 that is still a lot of money to waste so I wanted to get an experts opinion on the hardiness and . <For such a person with a professed in-depth interest in Pomacanthids, am surprised you don't have Allen, Allen and Steene's latest book on the group: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/BookMatters/GidBF,As.htm They give the species a "medium" rating/ranking... You should own and study this book> I have a 125gallon tank that has been cycled for about 6 months now with plenty of (cured) Fiji LR, I just moved the past inhabitants to the new 180gal so I hopefully want to get a Goldflake for that tank. Should I add the Goldflake angel first? And what type of tank inhabitants should I get? <Up to you> I was thinking towards semi-peaceful fish such as sunburst Anthias, pictillus Anthias, gold-stripe maroon clown, flame Hawkfish, and maybe a flame angel -2" (very small) and a small purple tang-2". Could you refer me to a book/website that will give me some more information on this beautiful species of fish. <WetWebMedia.com, Fishbase.org... Bob Fenner> thank you for your time and advice. Angel injury (reddish opercular spine, bacterial involvement?) I have a 7" angel (Goldflake) that appears to have injured itself. I gently caught it and placed it in a 55 gallon for now and am watching it. It looks like on one side, it has injured the 'spine' on the lower side of the cheek. you know, the one that only angels have, but butterflies don't. <Yes, almost all> It appears to have a shade of pink on that side in there. Not that large an area though, so I'm not sure if its from the injury itself, or if there is an infection of some sort. <Very common... likely due to a physical trauma... running/swimming into something in the tank, net damage, collateral shipping if the animal is newer.> I only noticed it when it was no longer eating after two days. Anyhow, after putting it in the 55, its just swimming back and forth (not too fast, not too slow) and that's when I noticed the spine injury. Anyhow, should I just watch it or should I put an anti-biotic in there. Or perhaps a light anti-biotic like Melafix ? <Not an antibiotic product... I would try to boost the animal's health nutritionally, add a cleaner organism... at this point.> I know that these bacterial infections can work quickly, but not sure if it'll recover without anti-biotics or not. Also, how apparent is a bacterial infection ? is it just a vague light pink redness or is it pretty obvious and just red underneath the skin ? I see only a light pink in the area and not sure if its just from the injury or what. Thanks for any help. Jim <Only way to judge is through culture and staining, microscopic observation... Outside the realm of pet-fishing by and large in terms of use/applicability... Sometimes, while already manipulating such animals (not worth re-netting damage, stress), a topical anti-microbial can be applied (like with a Q-tip (tm)) onto the affected area... Bob Fenner> Re: Apolemichthys xanthotis "Gia sou" again Anthony! <Gia Sou, Thanassis!> Finally I took the Niger back and I bought the Apolemichthys Xanthotis. <yes... a very wonderful and unique fish> It is a fish that I have been watching for three weeks. It was in very good shape and eating even flake food. <good... continue to feed it a wide variety including a lot of fresh frozen foods> Its length is 3 inches. When I took it home I first put it in a separate room in my aquarium (glass separator with holes + air-stone in it for better air oxygenation). It stayed there for 6 hours and everything was o.k. I offered it some dry flake food and it ate them all! <very good> In the mean time he had the opportunity to see and to be seen by the other tank mates. So after six hours I thought it was the right time to take the separator out . So I did , after I turned the lights off, and I left only a small light in the room. The Xanthotis ran at once under a big coral , which happens to be the "home" of the my Acanthurus Lineatus (3 ? inches). They started to fight at once and there was nothing I could do but watch them. I can understand that why Lineatus won the fight and the Angelfish ran out of the coral with some strange swimming moves. This hole fight lasted about 30 seconds. After this the Xanthotis found another coral to hide, so everything was calm again. Next morning I saw two swollen areas, one smaller (about 1 cm) on the one side and one larger (1,5 cm) on the other side of the Xanthotis. In the middle of these swollen areas there was something like a "cut". I was sure that the Angel was wounded by the "Knives" of Lineatus during their fight. <yes... agreed> But it seemed that everything was over, because the Xanthotis was moving very comfortable in the tank and he ate very well together with al the other tank mates. I took the following steps for the problem of Xanthotis: - first I put AquaSafe to the water of the tank in order to help its membrane. <I nice thought, but doubtful to help much> - On the second day I started treatment with Myxazin, in order to prevent any secondary infection, which I continued today (third day). The swollen areas are still there, but the "cuts" seem to look a little better. Have I done the right things? <yes, the preventative antibiotics in this case were necessary and helpful. Good job!> Is there anything else I should do? <for now, no. There is always the concern of doing too much too fast. Just feed well and maintain good water quality otherwise. As long as the fish looks stable or better each day, please do not do anything else> As I told you before, except from the first fight there is now no aggressiveness, the Angel is moving around and eating , facing no problem with Lineatus or the other tank mates. This is why I did not quarantine it. <although I prefer quarantine in a separate tank, I trust your judgment having been able to observe the fish for the past three weeks. I wish you the very best of luck with this beautiful fish! Kindly, Anthony> So, bye for the present. Thanassis Flagfin sick Hi Bob, This is my first time for a question however I have read quite a bit on this site and it is so informational. I have had a 6in. Flagfin for about a week. I did a 10% water change and vacuum on my tank this past weekend and since then the Flagfin has been acting strange. All test show good and water is crystal clear. I noticed him having problems going to the bathroom or so it looked that way and he is not eating however seems he wants to. After reading the FAQs about constipation I did go the Epsom salt routine. See some change but not much. He is swimming around the tank but a little slower than normal. He does have a red mark on the left side of his head next to the indent and this may be due to netting at the LFS. Tonight I am noticing a definition of black between the eyes and the indents on either side are also darker. It has only been two days since not eating so am lightening up to give him a break. <Good idea... if you have "enough" "healthy" live rock this animal is probably eating some of this... and likely there is no real need to worry> The tank is a 60 gal. ( I know, it needs to be bigger). I am in the process of looking for a 125 or 150 however until that time I am doing what I can. Can you offer any help or suggest medication to help him. Also in this species, are the blue lips supposed to constantly be moving? He is still a beautiful fish and would sure hate to lose him. Thank you so much for your information on this site. Thanks Linda from the Midwest. <The coloration you mention, except for the apparent net damage is fine, natural. Moving the animal to a larger system is indicated. Bob Fenner> Sick Angel Hi Bob, hope all is well with you. <greeting, Mark. Anthony Calfo up at bat for Bob> My question today is about this Flagfin angel I've had for about a year now. <a magnificent fish> All was fine until a few weeks ago, eating very well, etc. I've noticed her getting fatter and fatter. I thought maybe just a very eager eater, I put lettuce/seaweed in the tank every other day. She is so round it appears she is having a hard time staying down, fins are always moving, no more graceful swimming, etc. I first thought maybe she was constipated? <if ever suspected, add 1 Tsp Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate) to the tank per five gallons of water one time as a laxative. Usually only occurs with fast feeding fish gulping pellets./dry food> But then I saw her defecating small amounts. Something is definitely not right, she looks unusual. 90 gallon fish only, water perimeters great, no harassment going on in the tank, etc., etc. Could it be a swim bladder disorder and is any of this curable? <maybe, but not likely after this time. More than a few things... general symptom. Could be internal parasites that have perforated internal walls, bacterial infection and more. If the fish will eat medicated food... ride it for an observation period of three to five days. If no stabilization or improvement... move to quarantine for prophylactic medication regime for 2-4 weeks> Thanks for any help. Mark <best to you and your beautiful fish. Anthony> Three-Spot Angelfish Mr. Fenner, I was looking into your book and site and notice the Three-Spot Angelfish. Is this angel hardy, hardy and would it be alright to add this fish with a juvenile Red Sea Emperor? <Mmm, not "that" hardy... about "middle rated"... Other Red Sea species would be better to consider: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/redseafwgv1.htm> I know that sometimes it might not work, but some have been able to mix angels. I have been enjoying your book, nice pictures! <Thank you. Be chatting. Bob Fenner> Thanks, Ron Apolemichthys trimaculatus can u give me any knowledge u have on this fish (Apolemichthys trimaculatus, Flagfin angel) <On our site, here: http://wetwebmedia.com/apolemichthys.htm> like size I have heard so many different versions from 5 - 10 inches, I believe somewhere in the middle. <To ten inches or so maximum length in the wild... about half this in captivity...> I have seen 1 which is about 3-4 inches maybe a little bigger in my LFS it is for sale for ?55 and looks lovely I was just wondering what size tank u think would be best <At least a hundred gallons> as I have a few and if it would be ok with a French angel <Better to have the Flagfin as the only angel, with established live rock in abundance... especially tunicate and sponge life in good quantities> is there anything I should watch out keeping it with I don't have inverts or any coral so its just fish. <Hmm, well, this is actually not an "easy" angel to keep... Would you please read through the coverage on our site: www.WetWebMedia.com re this group? There is a posted rating system, many FAQs... Start here: http://wetwebmedia.com/marangel.htm> thanks for any help you may give and well done on such an excellent site. <Good to chat with you. Cheers. Bob Fenner> be talking to u Alex Dear Bob, I have a tri-spotted angel that recently developed a ulcerated looking lesion on only one side of his body ,near its gills. it is a dry looking lesion about 4-5 mm and appears superficial with a center depression. I also noticed him rubbing himself along the sand otherwise he is acting fine and eating well.. There are no other lesions on him. How do I treat this? ( I do not have a hospital tank). Thank you for your time. Bob >> Hmm, I would first and foremost try a Cleaner Shrimp (my fave choice of species, Lysmata amboinensis from the Pacific). If the fish is in duress, it will recognize the Cleaner for what it is and avail itself of its services... If this doesn't remedy the situation in a few weeks, write me back, and we'll escalate the effort. Bob Fenner Fish disease I have a 54gallon reef tank. I have a Goldflake angel and a 6 line wrasse as the only fish in the tank. the angel has only been in the tank for 6 weeks. it developed a cloudy eye after two weeks. . I treated this with Greenex. it went away only to return the next week on the other eye. I continues to return, alternating eyes. both have never been affected at the same time and the fish continues to eat well. do you have any ideas as to what it is? >> Yes... just environmental stress... leave the animal alone (don't put Greenex in your system... malachite and formaldehyde... the ingredients... are a very bad idea in a reef tank. Emphasize improved water quality and this fish will cure up and be fine... it should have been placed a few to several months after the tank had been up and cycled... Just be patient. Bob Fenner Flagfin angel I noted with interest your recommendation of Flagfin angels for large reef tanks (mine is 120 gallons). I recently saw this fish in a store. My wife loved it, but I said we couldn't purchase one, as Scott Michael, in his Guide to Over 500 Marine Fish, rates it as difficult to keep and does not recommend it for a reef tank. I realize that fish vary by individual, but wonder if you have good experience with this fish in captivity in general and in reef tanks in particular. The only corals I have in my tank are SPS corals, along with 3 cleaner shrimp, 2 tangs (chevron and powder blue), a dragon goby (Amblygobius phaelana), many snails and small hermit crabs. Thanks for your advice. Corey Raffel >> All this may become a/the prime example of letting other people write your caption material... Am not a big fan of this angel species... Rate it a two out of three... Do look into a smaller, hardier angelfish for this system... Bob Fenner Will a Flagfin angel eat coral and what is a tunicate? >> If it is hungry enough yes... but not generally. A tunicate is also known as an Ascidian, or sea squirt... it is a member of the chordates (the same phylum as us, the Chordata)... Bob Fenner Thanks for the info. I just have to say, I have received so much valuable information via the archives on FFE. I hope you know how important it is for the hobbyist to have practical, real life feedback/input with what's going on in the average marine aquarium. Not all of us have biology/science backgrounds that greatly assist the fishkeeper with respect to truly understanding the dynamics in marine aquariums. <I agree, and am glad to "be here" to offer assistance, points of view> If it is not too much trouble, I do have one more question. Given the parameters I've discussed regarding my tank, given your experience (and my dedication to husbandry), what would be an acceptable fish load in my 90 gal tank. <Four or five "medium" fishes... twice that of "smaller" ones...> Furthermore, are you familiar with the Three Spot Angel. I haven't found much literature on it. I read your book (EXCELLENT!), but there was just a passing note on this fish. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. <Do know this fish, Apolemichthys trimaculatus... some are good, some not so... If you can find one that is in initially good shape, and eating, it may well live for years... and yes, have seen them kept in reef tanks... as have you from reading your message below> Thanks, Rich Heisen PS I've had some great discussions over the past few months with a LFS owner John at Neptune's Reef in Torrance. He's a great guy who had great things to say about you! >> Yes, have been to the store (as it was being re-built from moving) and met the gentleman. Very nice folks, dedicated... my fave sort of retailers. Bob Fenner I know this is going to sound dumb but do you think you
could put a Flagfin angel in a reef tank >> Have seen
the Flagfin (Apolemichthys trimaculatus) successfully kept in large
reef settings (they're best there, rather than fish only). I give
them a good to medium rating... one of the better for medium size
angelfishes... And would do my best to avoid getting one out of the
Philippines (the species is also gathered from the Indian Ocean, Fiji,
Maldives, Coral Sea...
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