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Unknown Coral Species Possibly Invertebrate? (Hee-hee…aren’t
they all?) – 04/20/09
Hi,
<<Hello>>
I'm sort of embarrassed to ask a question about a species
identification, especially with so much information available over
the net, at the LFS or the library. But in all honesty, I have
Googled for hours and have stopped in every fish store to ask
questions and still have no answers. (didn't make it to the Library)
<<Okay>>
I bought what I thought was a Xenia in one of the many stores that I
frequent, I bought it thinking that I was well read and
knowledgeable enough to take care of a new addition to my tank.
<<But…>>
I picked out what I wanted, a light brown healthy looking Xenia with
tentacles that started at the foot that was buried in the sand, and
extended up about 3 inches.
<<Not a Xenia then…are “encrusting” organisms>>
The shape is like a Christmas tree,
<<And this is your first clue>>
full at the bottom, gradually becoming smaller at the top. I walked
away from the specimen tank to defend a poor little clown fish that
was being picked on by bigger bullies and did not observe the
employees putting my prize of the day in the plastic container, so
imagine my surprise when I get home and see this brown looking morel
mushroom looking thing suspended in saltwater.
<<A good analogy>>
(pick morels in woods every spring) Where's the waving tentacles and
the little fingers at the end of the tentacles? So I fight the urge
to drive back to the store, 50 miles away, plus the store was closed
for the evening and I removed the brown wilting looking mushroom
thing from the bag and have no clue what to do with it because it
has a soft foot with nothing attached to weigh it down or prop it
up.
<<Yup…another clue>>
First time I have had to deal with this, I always get coral that are
attached to frag or rock. So I bury the foot in the sand,
<<A good move…>>
until the little bugger is somewhat upright. An hour or so later the
tentacles start to creep out of the cap, woo hoo!!, the fish store
people didn't switch a slimy mushroom for my Xenia. I turned off the
tank light and went to bed. Next morning, I come downstairs and go
straight to my tank and my poor half Shroom and Xenia are gone.
<<Clue number three…>>
Nothing there, vanished. I start on the morning tank regimen and
come back an hour later to turn the skimmer back on and low and
behold there is my Xenia waving around in the current.
<<A good sign>>
Now I am just dying to know how my Houdini Xenia just disappears and
reappears, so I check the tank every hour or so and about 8 hours
later, he starts shrinking, pulls all his tentacles so far into that
funny little mushroom cap that you wouldn't even know that he had
tentacles and he just got smaller and smaller, burying himself in
the sand, until he disappeared.
<<Ah yes…>>
Next morning he pops up right against the tank wall, about 3 inches
away from where he buried himself. I sort of push him a couple of
inches away from the wall
<<Mmm, careful…best to let this critter pick its own spot>>
and he happily waved his Houdini arms and fingers around for another
8 hours and disappears. Next morning he pops back up against the
tank wall, where he is currently residing.
<<Ah…>>
What do I have?
<<The description and behavior you describe sounds very much like a
Sphaerella or Studeriotes species of soft coral
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/paralcyoniidae.htm )…some common names
are Christmas Tree Coral, and Medusa Coral>>
I cannot find any information on Xenia's that retract their
tentacles and bury themselves in the sand.
<<Is not a Xeniid>>
I can't find any information about an invertebrate with tentacles
like a Xenia.
<<Try a Google search on the Latin and common names I listed and see
what you think>>
All the fish store employees just look at me funny and think that I
am a twit who shouldn't be within 10 feet of an aquarium.
<<But, they don’t know what this coral is either…right? >>
Do I care for it like a Xenia?
<<Mmm, no…this is an azooxanthellate coral that requires direct
supplemental feeding…and much like Dendronephthya species, is not
easy to keep. To be honest, I don’t give you good odds for
maintaining this animal for long as it will likely starve to death
in a few weeks to months. You can try feeding small meaty foods like
Cyclops-Eeze, Rotifers, etc…but in my experiences these animals
always slowly shrivel away and die. I think the best thing would be
to return this coral to the LFS for a refund/store credit>>
Houdini seems to be doing okay for now, but I'm concerned that it
will decline in the future if I am not treating it accordingly to
its species.
<<Even so…there’s not a lot of info on the “successful” care of this
genus>>
I will try to send photos of his tricks, it's just a matter of
catching him doing them.
Thank You for any information at all.
Beth
<<Sorry it’s not better info… EricR>>
Re: Unknown Coral Species Possibly Invertebrate?
(Hee-hee…aren’t they all?) – 04/20/09
Hi Eric,
<<Hiya Beth>>
Thank you so much for the quick response.
<<Quite welcome>>
I apologize for the ignorance.
<<No worries my friend…you’re smarter than you were yesterday, eh?
[grin]>>
I really did research Xenia's but I guess, I am not knowledgeable
enough to pick them out in a line-up.
<<An honest mistake, I’m sure>>
I live outside of Cincinnati and bought the coral in Dayton and
although I could probably trade it or get my money back, do I really
want to give Houdini back to a store that sold him as a Xenia in the
first place?
<<Mmm, well…one of the best things we can do is to educate
ourselves/others not to purchase such animals…or to return them when
done after-the-fact. If the store can’t sell it, then hopefully they
won’t order it in next time>>
Personally, I would rather lose the money as lesson learned and give
him to someone who is equipped and knowledgeable enough to take care
of him.
<<A fine sentiment…but what about the next time, and the next time,
and the next time…?>>
(let me know if you know of someone)
<<Unfortunately there are few folks willing or able to devote to and
maintain the specialized setup necessary>>
I included a picture of Houdini and I briefly researched both
Studeriotes and Sphaerella as well as Medusa and Christmas tree
corals. I haven't been able to find a photo that looks like mine but
the described behaviors are on the nose.
<<Ah yes! It is now clear that what you have here is a species of
Cavernularia…likely C. obese. Commonly called Sea Pen (though there
are several similar genera/species also referred to re)>>
If you believe that it is not a Studeriotes or Sphaerella, then I'll
try to take some photos of his disappearing antics later this
evening.
<<Not necessary…am certain this is a Cavernularia based on your
earlier description and these photos. And the prognosis may not be
as dire as earlier perceived. Many species of Sea Pen are nocturnal
and azooxanthellate as described in our earlier exchange…the fact
that this specimen comes out when the lights are on is a good
indicator that it is a photosynthetic species>>
If you want, you can tell me that I wasn't a knuckle head for
thinking that it was a Xenia. Or you can tell me how you really feel
and call me a raving Hulk sized knuckle head.
<<Mmm, not at all… There “is” a remarkable resemblance…especially to
the uninitiated>>
Just a note, the folks at the fish stores had no idea what it was,
one guy said that it could be a wild anemone and then showed me
Aiptasia.
<<(sigh)… Sad indeed…>>
Also, please do not think poorly of my tank upkeep.
<<Oh?>>
I have been gone for the last two weeks to take care of sick
relatives.
<<Sorry to hear>>
I have only been home twice these last two weeks, I tell my boys
that I missed them and that is why I made the over 200 mile drive
back home, but I really just want to check on my aquarium to make
sure that everything is still alive.
<<Hee-hee…I’ll never tell!>
This time I had a red algae bloom. The boys had been leaving the
light on for too long, which is better than the last time when they
hadn't turned the protein skimmer on for almost a week.
<<Hmm, sounds like a lighting timer is in order (your tank really
would appreciate the regularity)…and maybe someone from the local
aquarium club to check in once in awhile (if a possibility)>>
I have to leave again for another week and am terrified about what
I'll find when I come home again.
<<Yikes…>>
Crossing my fingers and praying that they take care of the tank.
Thank you so much for your help.
Beth
<<Always welcome…safe travels. Eric Russell>>
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Care of Atlantic Renilla sp. 12/28/07 Howdy Crew - Found a couple of half-dead Renillas that washed ashore a few days ago. We seem to have recuperated them in a tank with 6" of local sand (very fine/silty). Any recommendations on long-term care? <Mmm, not finding much on the net re these Pennatulaceans practical care... Are microzooplanktivores... predated by some Seastars and urchins...> Namely, would like to replace the existing sand with that from a mature tank (aragonite bed), and add some live rock along the edges of the tank for nutrient/waste turnover. No other stinging organisms in the tank; can connect to a plankton reactor for constant flow of food. <I do think you're on the right path... or at least have vision of it. I would read what you can... more generally... re Sea Pansy, Sea Pen care...> Thanks.. -A <Welcome. Bob Fenner> Sea pen with a BTA 10/12/05 Hi guys <Hello Daniel> If I put a sea pen on the other side of the tank from my bubble-tip anemone, is that OK? Or will they eventually find each other and have a sting off? <Daniel, I don't know how experienced you are, but Sea Pens are moderate to difficult to maintain in the aquarium. They do require a deep sandy bed, moderate to strong lighting, frequent feedings of micro-plankton, and additions of iodine, calcium, strontium and other trace elements in order to have a chance to survive. It is not recommended that you keep anemones with corals or other similar animals as the anemone will eventually move and sting them. James (Salty Dog)> Sea pen coral unhappy ? I've just added a sea pen coral to my reef tank. when I saw it at the LFS, it was beautiful and looked a lot like a xenia. its just been in my tank for a few hours, but its shown very little activity and looks a lot like a flesh-colored cucumber or a hot dog. its begun to plant its "foot" in the substrate and a few polyps have started to open up. other than that, its very "limp" and its stalk is at a 90 degree angle with the "foot:" in the substrate the rest of the body falling over onto the sand. <Very typical for Pennatulaceans to "act" this way on being moved... and they do de/inflate periodically... most a turgid only at night time> I'm really hoping that this type of coral <Mmm, not a "coral"... a pet peeve of mine. Please read re> just acclimates this way but for some reason I am very worried. I've got decent water flow and when the coral is not directly under a 96W PowerCompact, it has its very own 3/4W blue LED moonlight. <Uhh, not photosynthetic life> if you guys could shed some light on my situation, I would greatly appreciate it. it literally just looks like a brown, bent pickle, haha thanks guys <Read re these animals on WetWebMedia.com Bob Fenner> Sea Pens 10/17/03 First off, thank you for the time you spend helping out people like me. I have searched Google on Sea Pens, namely Cavernularia. I have found close to nothing. Though your site has a few lines about them, it is not enough to go on. I was wondering about light, water movement, and food requirements. Anything else you have would be helpful. Thanks... <not much has been published on this unique creature because it is staggeringly difficult to keep in captivity for long. Few see more than a year old in aquaria with most dying well before that. They too often get put into rocky reef aquariums with many other corals that chemically if not physically outcompete them. They also require very deep and mature sand beds (6-8" deep and one year old minimum) in nearly fishless systems or with massive refugia to supply plankton and nutrients. Sea Pens naturally occur in soft substrates like mud flats and are not found on the reef proper. Frankly, I regret seeing many collected at all. To be available just for aquarists that special order them for dedicated species tanks only in my opinion. My advice would be to post on some of the big message boards looking for lurkers with experience to share if you will be kind enough to set up a species tank for your intended specimen(s). Anthony>
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