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Anemone Losing Tentacles –
2/28/08
HI
<Hello Lewis, Brenda here!>
I have a 100gal reef tank and an extremely large anemone that measures about a
foot in diameter.
<Is large, but they can get much bigger.>
It has been in my tank for about 3 or 4 months now. I've noticed that it sheds
quite a good amount of tentacles then re-grows them. Is this common for a Sebae
anemone?
<No, this is not normal. There is likely something bothering this anemone. What
else do you have in your tank? Such as fish, crabs, shrimp, etc. To be safe,
please give me a list of your water parameters and equipment. There is more
information found here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemhlthfaq6.htm >
Thanks, Lewis
<You’re welcome! Brenda>
How Big Will My Sebae Anemone
Grow? 12/04/07
Hey crew,
<Hello Cathy! Brenda here tonight!>
We have owned a Sebae Anemone for about 10 months now. It was bleached out and
only about 2 inches across when we purchased him....not healthy now, as we know.
<Unfortunately, it is not uncommon for anemones to expel zooxanthellae from the
stress of collection, handling, and shipping.>
But anyway, we had him in a 20 gal tank for about 8 months with a true Percula
clown.
<A 20 gallon is much too small. More information here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/heteraccrispa.htm >
The two are inseparable but the anemone just keeps growing and growing and
growing. It has also been a healthy brownish color for a very long time now.
<Congratulations on saving the anemone!>
We have moved it with the clown to a 40 gal breeder tank about a month and a
half ago and added a second clown to pair.
<A 40 gallon is still a bit small for anemones. Do you also have a sump? Was the
40 gallon an established aquarium before the transfer?>
They both host the anemone now since the move. It seems even bigger; maybe 8
inches across...it is huge.
<What lighting do you have? If you are lacking on lighting, it may not actually
be growing. It may just be stretching itself to reach as much light as
possible.>
We generally feed it krill twice a week and then the tank get feedings of
phytoplankton, brine, Marine Two, and Cyclops alternately every other day.
<Brine shrimp has very little nutritional value unless it is newly hatched brine
shrimp.>
My question is how big do you think it will eventually get?
<This anemone can easily grow to 18 inches or more. Some have been known to
reproduce asexually by splitting themselves in two. This is not as common as it
is with the E. Quadricolor. Some experienced hobbyists have actually cut through
the anemone creating a clone. However, I do not recommend this unless you are
fully knowledgeable, have witnessed, and know the requirements and care required
after the procedure. This is a choice that some have made when the anemone has
outgrown its environment. This also saves another anemone from being removed
from the ocean.>
Cathy
<Hope this helps! Brenda>
Clarks Clownfish behavior, New Sebae Anemone
Not Attaching – 11/18/07
Ok so I have 2 clarki clownfish that I've had for about 5 months now, they
are in a 90 gallon tank right now with a couple other fish. The fish seemed to
have gotten along fairly well, they would swim side by side sometimes no
problems. Then maybe a couple months ago they started to chase each other
around, and looking this up I realized that this was completely normal behavior.
They have never tried to nip at each other so that was the good thing.
<Yes.>
Well I just added a Sebae Anemone yesterday and the first one to get there was
the male. Then they were sharing it for about an hour and now the female has
completely taken over. I thought at first maybe they were both going to share
it, I know it's not something that happens often but I thought I would get lucky
since there was no aggression. Well now the female has taken over and the male
just kind of hovers around trying to find his way back in. If she notices that
he gets too close she will go after him mouth WIDE open and attack, he does
fight back though. He sticks up his fins on the top, opens his mouth wide and
then kind of twitches around a bit. He looks pretty angry while he does this
too. He doesn’t attack her back but when he does that 'dance' she just watches
him and leaves him alone. This has happened maybe about 5 times in the last
hour. I'm curious what that behavior is and whether it's normal.
<The male is surrendering to the female. This is normal.>
Once in a while he gets back in the anemone with no problems from her but then
she turns on him again and the same process is repeated.
<The female is letting the male know that she is boss. This is normal. In time,
it may lessen.>
I also have a question about the anemone. Right now we've only had it for just
under 24 hours and it hasn’t found its place yet. We right now have the
powerheads off. It was too much flow and it was just floating aimlessly about,
that and I've read horror stories about when they're floating aimlessly they
cant get a grip on anything and sometimes they get stuck right in the powerhead
damaging some of their tentacles or even killing them so I'm not taking that
chance.
<I do not recommend the use of powerheads with anemones. If you must have them,
they must be covered to minimize the chances of an anemone getting sucked in.
See here: http://www.karensroseanemones.com/coverpowerheads.htm >
I just don’t know how long it is supposed to take for them to find a home.
<It may never. It depends on the environment and the health of the anemone. If
there is no happy place to be found, it will roam, and possibly die.>
He's right now just lying on the sand, his color is good and all other things
seem to be alright. His mouth is completely closed. He's just kind of slowly
moving but not really going anywhere. Unfortunately he won’t be able to find a
home in our sand bed because it's a deep one so his only choice is our rock.
<It can find a home in a deep sand bed.>
Will he find a place?
<I hope so. I need more information. How was the anemone acclimated? What are
your water parameters? What equipment do you have, including lighting and
skimmer, powerheads? What lighting was it under before you got it? Was it
recently shipped? What is your livestock list, including fish, corals, and
inverts? How long has your tank been set up?>
I know I read that it can take weeks for him to find a home but I can’t keep the
powerheads off for that long since the tank won’t have flow or be cycling to our
sump.
<You must have flow in your tank. Shutting off the flow to your tank is
dangerous to all of your livestock.>
Any information on either or both topics would be so helpful. Thank you.
<I have corrected your grammar and spelling this time. Please be sure to use
proper English in the future. For example, use capital I when referring to
yourself. I don’t have time to correct these.>
Jennifer
<Brenda>
Sebae Anemone 3/17/06 health, comp. 3/17/06
Hello Crew, Now I am sure you saw the title and groaned, so give me a chance
to explain my tank set up and such, I am sure when I am done telling my story
you will be just as upset as I am.
<<Hee Hee... no groaning at all!>>
I have a 90 gallon reef tank with aprox 130 lbs of sand in the display and about
140 lbs live rock, with the display I have a 33 gallon refugium with 30lbs of
sand and a 45 gallon sump with sand and rock, this is my filter system in
conjunction with a Becket skimmer.
<<Sounds good so far.>>
I run the skimmer off a Mak 4 and circulation in the tank comes from a little
giant (aprox 1300 gph) and the use of a SCWD along with 2 power heads (aprox 800
GPH on the PH)
<<More good stuff, although powerheads and drains are good anemone traps!>>
I have a number of LPS and SPS as well as leathers zoas buttons etc. and all are
thriving.
Sal 1.024
PH 8.2
Alk 4.0 Meq
Calc 450
Magnesium 1350
Nitrate and Nitrite 0
Ammonia 0
Lighting consists of 400W 14k MH's along with 4 T5 HO bulbs.
That pretty well describes my tank.
<<Sounds great... that's ALOTTA light!>>
I put a lot of thought and research into making my decision to buy the anemone
and think I have every thing that would be able to keep it alive and healthy.
Here is where the problem come in.
I ordered my Sebae anemone in it arrived , appeared to be okay in the bag but
was hard to judge, brought it home went through the process of landing it
properly... Now I go to remove it from the bag and place it in my tank and it
feels firm, but not overly sticky small concern here) I look at the mouth and
its open, not gapping but not tightly closed.. alarms go off, looking at coloring
its yellow to white with bright purple tips( I don't believe its bleached)
<<So far, this all sounds normal for a just-shipped anemone, although I suspect
that your critter IS bleached. H. Crispa is normally creamy light brown or
creamy green, rarely pinkish or purplish. Yellow H. crispa have been bleached
(often by intentional heat stress) and then dyed with food coloring.>>
so I continue a careful examination will it is still in the bag and check the
foot.. well it seems that this poor creature was brutally ripped off the rock by
the company (person shipping it) it has multiple tears on its foot. I am very
PO'ed that they handled this anemone so poorly, I have placed it about 6 inches
from the surface of the water which places it about 12 inch from the MH in a
gentler (is this a word?) flow area so it is not tumbled around the tank. I am
watching it closely for melt down and it seems to be moving its tentacles around
and reaching for stuff but has not firmly grasped any rock. Is there anything I
can do to save this Anemone or is it doomed due to improper shipping and
care? Thanks for taking the time to read and feel free to blast away. Cheers
Drew
<<This is one of the serious problems with mail ordering live stock. Had you
purchased this animal locally, you would have had the opportunity to observe and
inspect it before purchase. In any case, I would keep an eye on the
anemone. H. crispa can be pretty durable and it may settle in, heal and do
fine. Exercise a great deal of diligence to prevent this anemone from
wandering into a drain or powerhead! Once it does start to attach, I would
start feeding it small meals (raw marine meaty foods, about the size of a
marble) every few days. If it is bleached, feeding will be important for it to
survive and recover. Also, you may want to lower the lighting intensity until
you see signs that the anemone is recovering zooxanthellae. Best
Regards. AdamC.>>
Sebae Anemone part2 3/20/06 beh., dis.
Hello Crew,
Thanks for the quick reply AdamC, just thought I would update you on day 2 of
the anemone, I took your advice and put it into a lower light area of the tank,
I placed it on a large smooth coral skeleton I had picked up from a fellow
reefer a while back for glue frags to. I placed this flat cup like piece in
between to rocks in a sorta crevice and placed the anemone on it. This is
protecting its foot nicely underneath. It has not attached to the rock but seems
to be cradled nicely in place and is swaying from the gentle alternating
current.
<<Sounds very good. Hopefully it will attach soon. It has been my experience
that anemones that have spent an extended amount of time tumbling in the water
column in a dealer's tank are often slow to attach when placed in an aquarium.>>
Its tentacles look thick and full but its mouth is still open slightly. the foot
looks to be pinched in to a ball shape atm. Color wise its is more off white
today, not yellow , not tan/brown more tan white( good or bad?). I am hoping
that the foot being pinched in is a good
sign as I can not see the damage as well as I could last night. Thanks Again for
your advice and help. Cheers, Drew
<<All sounds OK here as well. A slightly open mouth is OK... a seriously
everted one is bad. Based on the color, it sounds like your anemone has some
zooxanthellae left, so this is good. The "pinched in" foot may be a reaction to
protect the damaged area or just a result of being unattached. The real hope is
that the foot will extend naturally and take hold of the substrate. Best
Regards. AdamC.>>
Anemone Growing Double Tips 12/1/05
Dear Crew,
Great site, very informative, and must say that I am getting more and more stressed over the fact that I've purchased 3 items that I should
not have after reading your site (Dendro, Goniopora, and Sebae yikes!). Although I would like to believe that from what I see they are all doing
ok.. for now =D
I did notice that the sebae is slowly regaining its brown color. Oddly enough, it is also growing tentacles out of other tentacles... where on
some there are 2 purple dots or in more serious cases Y shaped tentacles. Is this normal? What is it trying to do?
<Isn't abnormal for this to happen, can't give you an answer as to why.>
In addition to placement, I do have a sea fan that is just "upstream" from the anemone in terms of powerhead flow. Should this be avoided?
<Any corals and relatives shouldn't be placed in the same tank as an anemone. Just a matter of time before the anemone will decide to move and sting anything in its path. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks for all your help.
<You're welcome>
Sincerely, Ambrose
Leather Anemone upside-down 9/19.5/05
Hey guys, my anemone has been upside-down in the sand for a week. He rolls
over at night just enough for an adult tomato clown. It sort of looks like he
slowly swings his column/foot like a pendulum above him all day. Had him for a
month and his size is the same. Feed invert smorgasbord, DT's phytoplankton,
and brine shrimp, mix it up, usually feed the brine shrimp once a week directly
(not much), and one of the others about two or three times a week total to the
tank. <TB, never heard of a leather anemone. You sure of the correct name? James
(Salty Dog)> <<Is another common name for Heteractis crispa... most often
labeled "Sebae". RMF>>
TB
Re: Leather Anemone upside-down 9/19.5/05
Heteractis crispa is known as the Sebae or Leather Anemone.
WWM FAQ Crew
<crew@mail.wetwebmedia.com> wrote: Leather Anemone upside-down
Hey guys, my anemone has been upside-down in the sand for a week. He rolls over
at night just enough for an adult tomato clown. It sort of looks like he slowly
swings his column/foot like a pendulum above him all day. Had him for a month
and his size is the same. Feed invert smorgasbord, DT's phytoplankton, and brine
shrimp, mix it up, usually feed the brine shrimp once a week directly (not
much), and one of the others about two or three times a week total to the tank.
<You don't mention your lighting. What are you using? Flow rates must be high
for anemones, 15X tank volume minimum. What size tank is he in? What are water
parameters? Also search our WWM site, keyword, "anemones".
James (Salty Dog)>
TB
Shriveled Sebae 9/4/05
We just bought an Anenome yesterday. it is white and has purple tips.
<Sebae Anemone, Heteractis crispa. This particular individual has expelled its
symbiotic zooxanthellae due to stress resultant from poor water conditions,
shipping, too much handling, general bad, health, etc. This is known as being
"bleached." A healthy sebae is usually a deep brown/beige color. As a general
rule, no zooxanthellate cnidarian should ever possess white polyps (in this
case, the anemone itself can be considered a polyp).>
I has already started to shrivel up. The pet store told us that it would do this
when it expels old water and takes in new water.
<Yes, this is a common occurrence with anemones. Sort of a "body column water
change." If the shriveling is accompanied by a gaping mouth/expelled internals,
however, it is a sign of severe stress.>
It has almost been a day
and it hasn't blossomed back yet. Is there something wrong with it?
<Too soon to tell, really. Give it another 24 hours.>
could it
be dead already?
<Possibly, but I doubt it.>
and how long does the process of expelling water take?
<usually, the water change can be completed in around ~12 hours, but this is by
no means a concrete rule.>
Please Help ASAP Please email me back
<It's funny you sent me this email at this time. A family member of mine
recently purchased a bleached sebae, and it, too, shriveled up beyond
recognition, was vomiting entrails, etc. on day 2. I just 5 minutes ago received
an email from him with pics of the now-healthy anemone. I advised him to use a
syringe (sans needle, you know, the ones you get with test kits) or pipette to
force feed the anemone a mixture of Cyclops-eeze, liquid garlic, and Selcon by
placing the tip of the syringe/pipette between the anemone's "lips" and
squirting gently and slowly. He did this twice daily, and the anemone bounced
back and is now a deep shade of brown after only 2 months. The anemone stopped
requiring the force feeding after 2 weeks of it, at which point it was rather
sticky and could accept whole krill soaked in Selcon twice daily. At any point
where all hope seems lost, it's not. Trust me. Never give up, and best of luck!
Mike G>
Re: Shriveled Sebae 9/5/05
thank you for all the info.
<Welcome.>
I came how from work and it had moved itself and
blossomed back up.
<Good to hear.>
Now another couple of problems. How do I feed it the
silver side without the fish floating to the top and without getting to
close to where it will sting me.
<Well, if the anemone is sticky enough, you can just place the fish on its
tentacles without any problems. If the anemone is not sticky, it would be best
to force feed it the previously mentioned mixture. If it is not sticky, chances
are good it could not harm you if you came in contact with its tentacles.
However, if you're cautious you can buy a pair of rubber gloves specifically for
your tank.>
Another question we have a clownfish,
cowfish, yellow tang and a blue damsel.
<How large a tank?>
How do I keep the nitrate and
ammonia levels low with all the fish, and is there some way to clean the
waste away from the sand.
<Siphon off the debris or, if your tank is large enough, get a detritus-eater:
Tigertail Cukes are a good choice. They pass the sand, metabolize the debris,
and expel clean sand in neat little pellets.>
Sorry to keep bothering you. Stephanie
<Not bothering, glad to help. Mike G>
Sebae Anemone 8/3/05
I have tried to find books on the topic of anemones but they are hard to
find and I found your article on the web along with a few others but they
don't answer all of my questions or really even cover the behaviors of an
anemone.
<Anemone behavior? You mean, eat, deflate, inflate, grow, wander?>
I just bought an anemone on Saturday for the first time and I picked out a
Sebae anemone, however I think I made two major mistakes.
<I'd say your first was picking out one of the harder species of anemones.>
First, mistake the anemone wasn't attached to anything in the tank, but it was
puffed up
and looked healthy and beautiful, however I read afterwards that a creamy
colored anemone may have started the bleaching process already.
<Indeed. To add to this, Sebaes are often sold bleached.>
I can still see a brown pigmentation on the body but the tentacles and foot a
more of a
creamy color.
<Could very well be bleaching, though it does not sound like a serious "case">
Second mistake, I didn't make the dealer feed the anemone at
the store.
<I never even considered that to be a part of buying a healthy anemone. I always
look for coloration, fullness, a closed-tightly mouth, a full foot, etc.>
I acclimated my anemone for about 2 ½ hours and placed him in my tank, and
he just started to float around so, I didn't want him to get hurt floating
around in my tank, so I think I may have held him too long...a couple of
minutes.
<Does not sound too great.>
Finally he attached in a cave in the rocks where he gets some
light but not too much. He stayed attached for a little over one day,
however he didn't eat anything that I tried to feed him.
<Could have simply been acclimating. When you picked him up, did he feel sticky?
That is a sign of good health. Conversely, lack of stickiness is a sign of very
poor health.>
I have tried to
feed him silversides, chopped up, and Mysid shrimp. He started to eat some
of the shrimp the first day but then spit it back out. About a day later he
flipped up side down on his mouth
<No good at all.>
so my husband and I moved a powerhead so
it was pointing in the anemone's direction to tip him back over, which
worked.
<Unnecessary stress.>
Now another day and half later he won't attach to anything
<Very bad.>
since the previously mentioned, and he leaves his mouth open a lot
<Very, very bad.>
and he still won't eat.
<Quite bad indeed.>
I don't think his stinger cells are working either. One of my
baby Chromis has come in contact with his tentacles and is still alive
swimming around in the tank, but food does stick to his tentacles when I try
to feed him.
<Then, yes, his nematocysts are still in operation.>
I did see the anemone expelling some brown stuff the first day
and some creamy colored stringy balls from inside his mouth are mixed within
his tentacles.
<Normal.>
His foot is not damaged and I haven't seen any rips or tears
on his body or tentacle. I have T5 lights, 4 Blue actinic and 2 white
<Actinics have considerably less photosynthetically usable light than white
bulbs. I would not go so far as to count them toward your wattage.>
and get a little over 4 watts per gallon in a 75 gallon tank. I am at a loss due
to good information on the Sebae anemone, Heteractis crispa. Do you have
any suggestions?
<Give it a place where it will get good lighting as well as be able to shade
itself, decent flow, daily feedings... make sure it eats at least once a day,
even if it means sacrificing 100 Mysis to feed one. When feeding, cut the
circulation and stick the food nearest to the mouth as you can.>
Is my anemone dying?
<It is unwell, but can recover.>
When do I know when to give up and
get him out of my tank before he becomes harmful to other specimens in my
tank?
<When he dies.>
I don't want to throw out a live anemone...I would feel really bad
but I don't want to lose my other fish and coral that I have put time and
money into.
<Watch him closely. If he dies, remove him immediately. I recently brought a
Ritteri anemone with extremely similar symptoms back to life: it is now a deep
shade of brown-green. You can save it, even when death seems unavoidable. Best
of luck, Mike G>
Sebae
anemones turned tannish/brown
Hi I have a small 12 gallon tank with a small (was creamy white with purple dots on the end of each
tentacle) sebae anemone.
<Bleached>
I had two small clowns and a small blue tang.
<This system is too small...>
All my fish got ick, and were transferred to a hospital tank. The two clowns died after a week and half of treatment, but the tang lived. Finally the tang
<Too small a world for a Tang...>
has been put back into the main tank. Well my problem is that when the fish got ick and were removed from the main tank the anemone turned from a creamy white with purple dots on the end of the tentacles to a tannish/light brown color.
<A step in the right direction>
When the anemone was first put into the tank, we placed it in a hole on one of our live rocks and it stayed and started spreading. Seemed happy, but since the fish were removed it's color changed. It still opens and shuts with the lights and retracts when the crabs touch it. Is it sick or is it ok.
<Ok>
I am planning on buying two more small clowns to replace the two that died.
<I would not... the stress from being crowded... likely was largely at play in your last ich episode. Save up and get a larger system. For what you have, want, at least forty gallons minimum>
I think that my first mistake was buying all three fish from three different places. But I want to make sure that the anemone is ok or if it needs treatment or what? Please help.
<Please read re Heteractis crispa (Sebae Anemones) on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Sebae Anemone 'spurting'
Bob and Crew:
<Ed>
Let me first thank you for the invaluable advice and direction that you have
provided me over the past couple of years. I've found your website to be
extremely useful in providing the information needed by the modern
aquarist. Due to the excellent organization of your site, I haven't had the
opportunity (or need) to contact you directly. However, tonight something
happened in my tank that has me baffled. I've not seen anything posted
regarding what I saw tonight.
I'll begin with a sincere 'thank you' regarding the advice provided by prior
posts regarding our Sebae anemone. My wife and I purchased it about 18 months
ago. It was small (about 3 to 4 inches across) and beautifully white. I soon
learned that it shouldn't be white. With your advice, I slowly nurtured it back
to excellent health by gingerly feeding it every two days and adding Combisan to
the tank weekly. The Sebae now measures about 14" across when fully spread out
and is a dark, rich brown.
<Outstanding>
Yesterday, my wife called me at work and said that the aquarium was really
cloudy. I was baffled and nervous because I've never seen it cloudy except when
I used AZNO3 about 9 months ago to eliminate my nitrates (which worked ). When
I got home from work, I was greeted with 'pea soup'. I couldn't even see the
back of the tank. I figured it was some sort of bacterial bloom and added some
carbon. All the while, hoping for the best.
Tonight, the tank was looking fairly clear, but still a bit hazy. Just before
the lights go off (at midnight), I looked at the tank and noticed that the Sebae
anemone was a bit more 'scrunched up' than normal. As I watched, it suddenly
began to discharge small round 'balls'... somewhat like eggs. The spurting
continued for several minutes, until there were perhaps thousands of small,
greenish "balls" suspended in the water column. I'm attaching a photograph of
the sebae's mouth during part of evolution. (I can send a much higher
resolution picture if it would be helpful) I'm completely baffled
now... Sebaes reproduce by splitting, not 'eggs' right?? The tank immediately
clouded up again.
<Mmm, actually can/do reproduce in a few ways... including sexually, but these
are not eggs>
Is the clouding, or the "spurting" anything to worry about? My wife and I love
this tank, and we would like to avoid a crash if at all possible.
<They do worry me... am wondering... where they came from... likely something
that was eaten. Do you, did you have Caulerpa in this system? Is this a
Caulerpacean reproductive event?>
Ooops... almost forgot: My tank parameters are as follows:
Salinity: 35 ppt (refractometer... about 1.025-6 SG)
Temp: 79 Deg. F.
pH: 8.2
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
Phosphate: 0 (or so... if you believe the test)
Alk: 10-11 dKH
I also measure Silicate, Iodide/Iodine and are ok
Equipment:
75 g AllGlass
Rena Filstar Canister, 350 GPM
AquaC Remora Pro with Magdrive and skimmer box
Two other powerheads, 175 gph each
15 W UV (TMC Vecton) - which was running during the cloudiness
Stocking: (fairly light)
Sebae Anemone - 14"
Yellow Tang - about 5-6"
Cinnamon Clown - 4-5"
Yellow tailed Blue Damsel - 2.5" (for sale... cheap )
9 Astrea snails
10 Blue Legged, small hermit crabs
About 15 Lb. of Live rock
Thanks in advance for your help, and please let it be known that your work is
truly appreciated!
Regards,
Ed
<Something is missing here Ed... what sort of object could have caused the
cloudiness? What algae do you have? Bob Fenner>
Re: Sebae Anemone 'spurting'
Bob,
<Ed>
Thank you for your prompt response. I don't have any macroalgae in the system
whatsoever. I have a bit of film and hair algae, but it's fairly light. I also
have some really dark brown algae that grows on the substrate that persistently
exists, but it is a relatively small amount. It is somewhat filamentous and is
difficult to siphon out because it merely 'clumps' when it enters the
siphon. Other than that, there's no algae other than coralline.
<Strange. Am at a loss to explain the green color, the balls...>
I currently feed the Sebae a homemade seafood mix about once a week. I keep it
frozen and whittle off a bit into a bit of tank water, then feed with a turkey
baster. It doesn't seem that I'm missing any livestock, and the Sebae doesn't
eat anything that would seem to produce the small balls that I've described. I
feed the fish a varying combination of flake food and the homemade seafood mix
on occasion. Once in awhile, I enrich the food with either Selcon or VitaChem.
<Oh, does the homemade food have a vegetable/algal component?>
Two days have passed since the event, and the tank is now fairly clear. It's
not as clear as it was before the event, but close. I cleaned the filters last
night and they were almost entirely plugged with a slimy substance that was
difficult to wash off. I had just cleaned the filters about 1.5 weeks before
the event, so the plugging was very unusual. The skimmer has been acting
strange, too. It's been removing about 1/2 of it's normal amount, and what it
removes right now is a nearly opaque, milky tan liquid instead of the medium tea
to coffee colored liquid it normally removes.
The livestock, including the anemone seem unfazed by the event, which it
probably a really good sign.
<Yes>
Another thought: Could the clownfish have laid eggs directly into the
anemone? The clownfish is A. Melanopus and has been hosting in the anemone
since shortly after introduction of the anemone. I know it's a long shot, but
I'm running out of ideas.
<Mmm, no... very often (in the wild) Clownfishes will lay their eggs on to the
hard substrate under (by pecking at it) the foot of their host anemone... but
not on.>
Thanks once again for your help!
Ed
<Lastly (the paranoid question)... is it possible someone placed/dumped
something in your tank? Other than this, some sort of reproductive event (by ?)
is about all the general possibilities that come to mind for the cloudiness,
slime. Bob Fenner>
Re: Sebae Anemone 'spurting'
Thanks once again, Bob.
<Welcome Ed>
I don't currently use any algae/vegetable component in my seafood mix, so I
guess that's likely ruled out. Our clownfish has always dug holes around the
anemone, all the way to the bottom glass; however I've never seen it attempt to
nip at the anemone's foot in any way (or lay eggs for that matter). I guess the
possibility of the clownfish laying eggs is ruled out as well. Also, no one has
had the opportunity to dump anything into the tank, so I guess that's also ruled
out.
<Yes>
I guess it shall remain a mystery. The mysterious behaviors of marine life are
exactly what attracted us to the hobby in the first place! Imagine my surprise
when late the other night I watched the anemone spurting out a constant stream
of the small, greenish balls! At least I captured several images of the event
with my camera, otherwise I don't think anyone would believe me.
<... yes, strange>
The tank is now crystal clear once again, so I think that everything is getting
back to normal.
I'll continue learning and growing in this fun and interesting hobby, and I
truly appreciate the service that you and your crew provide.
Regards,
Ed
<Thank you, Bob Fenner>
Sebae Anemones
Dear Sir,
I have had a Sebae for about 3 months now. Yesterday I noticed he was turning a brown around the edges it looks healthy other than that and has grown since I have had it. Could it be a bacterial infection?
<No, it is a return to normal coloration. Most host anemones have expelled their symbiotic
zooxanthellae (algae) and are bleached white and near death. You are to be congratulated. Do read here for additional anemone care information
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm and following on through the other linked pages.>
If so what can I treat him with, he has a tomato clown as a host. I checked all my water and my ph is 8.0 a little low but it has been that way.
<I would try to increase the pH, 8.2-8.4 is appropriate.>
Any help would be great. Thanks, Sue
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Sebae Anemone
Hi,
<cheers, my friend>
I just purchased a sebae anemone online and it just arrived today in the mail
with two false Percula clowns.
<a fine species although I'm not convinced the clowns are likely to take to
it>
I guess I shoulda done some research before hand, but didn't.
<we live and learn... do learn and grow from this>
I read in your FAQ's that they are not naturally white in
color.
<correct>
Mine is white with purple tips.
<too common>
I was wondering, if the anemone will live?
<yes... easily, if you take the time to feed it very fine minced meaty foods
(nothing larger than 1/4" bits) 3-5 times weekly perhaps. It will go
through a blotchy ugly stage when re-coloring but should finish rich brown with
handsome purple tips in time>
It appears healthy, It attached itself to a rock in my aquarium. I
have power compact lighting...this should be sufficient, shouldn't it?
<if the water is shallow (anemone in 12" of water from surface ... not
much more?)
Also, I fed a chunk of frozen Mysis shrimp.
<excellent,. but so thaw first>
I placed it on it and it grabbed it and has eaten it all.
<very good and one of the very best foods for marine animals at large>
I would appreciate any feedback you have on caring for
it.
<keep feeding several times weekly and maintain good water quality and all
will be fine>
Another quick note, my two clowns are not going into the anemone at all, do you
think after a few more days of acclimation they might or does this anemone not
host them?
<the latter... and know that clowns harm more anemones than they help in
captivity. Not needed or recommended>
thanks, Ronnie
<best regards, Anthony>
Sebae question
Hello, I just got a Sebae last week at the LFS and it hasn't attached to
anything yet and gets blown around by the current even though I dropped the
current down to practically nothing.
<Common problem and is explicitly stated throughout fish literature>
What current should it be at? low? med?
<Most likely current isn't the problem. These critters are easily damaged and
in general, do not survive well in captivity although there are exceptions to
the rule>
It is about 4 inches in diameter and looked decent at the LFS according to
others that I've seen. It does have coloration to it and the
tentacles aren't shriveled up but its mouth is open a little. I have
it in a 29 gallon tank with a 55w actinic pc and a 65w 50/50 pc plus a near by
120w plant light
<Plant light won't help anything except nuisance algae>
next to the aquarium that I was using for my banana tree and I have it aimed
right at the anemone, was that a wise thing to do?
<Good for growing hair algae. Won't help the anemone at all. Most likely it's
the wrong spectrum>
Is just the 120w of PCs enough for it?
<Probably>
It was under less lighting at the LFS.
<LFS didn't want to keep it for years. I assume that you do>
It is open but it is all bunched up right now next to a piece of
live rock and you can see the foot. I tried to put in on the live
rock close to the lights but it keeps dropping off and going to the CC. The
current wasn't real strong but it kept getting blown over on its top. I even dug
a hole in the CC and placed the foot in there so it wouldn't blow over but it
just crawled out and got blown over anyways. It did make it to the
side of some live rock where it is now but one side isn't getting any light, is
that ok?
<It will settle wherever and whenever it wants. That's one the many problems
associated with anemones>
I also dose micro Vert invert food, coral Vite, reef calcium and
iodine once a week. The tank has 20lbs of live rock, a Red Sea Berlin
air lift skimmer and the eclipse 3 filter that I only use once in a while to
just clear the water up. I was told not to run the eclipse filter
often because the carbon will absorb beneficial things and the filter adds
nitrate and nitrogen to the water and to leave the filter to the DSB, live rock
and skimmer. Should I use the eclipse filter all the time or once in
a while as I have been doing?
<If what you're doing is working I would continue. If not then leave the
filter on all of the time>
Thanks for the help.
<You're welcome! David Dowless>
Aaron
Sebae Anemone
Hi,
<Hello there>
I've tried to look up as many articles as possible, however I haven't really
found a full answer to my question.
<Go on>
I had 3 false Percula clowns...I believe my new sebae anemone ate it as it was
the clown that had really taken to the anemone that was eaten.
<I see>
I've only had it for a couple of weeks.
Since it "ate" the clown fish...it's been tipped over sitting on its
side and really not looking healthy at all. I've checked the water and the
levels seem to be fine. I've also cleaned up the water so that it doesn't choke
on its own waste.
<Cleaned up? It is a good idea to remove solid waste (after the anemone
disgorges it), but they don't like sudden or large changes in their
environment>
I have a standard two ft tank and have one fluorescent and one blue light as the
pet shop lady told me that coral and anemone really love the light so I hope
it's not too bright.
<Mmm, take a read through WetWebMedia.com re this species (actually
Heteractis crispa)... they require a surprisingly intense quantity of light...
is yours "bleached out?"... that is, white or whitish with pink to
purple tips at the ends of its tentacles? It may be impugned from its collection
and shipping ahead of your purchase... very common>
Can you please let me know if this is normal behavior for an anemone to be
rolled over like that?
Thanks
Cheryl
<Not normal... not healthy. Though almost all "giant anemone"
species/specimens that live in conjunction with Clownfishes do have periods of
more or less tumescence, they should not be flaccid... for any period of time. A
warning sign. Again, there is too much to convey to you in this space, time.
Please read through the articles and FAQs files archived on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Pink Tipped Anemone
Mr. Fenner
<Call me Bob>
Another quick one - I have a Pink Tipped Anemone in my 6 week old 90 gallon. It was white when I got it, but it is slowly turning brownish.
<A good sign>
My inexperienced opinion would be that I am losing it. Otherwise it seems to be doing fine. I have two Percula Clownfish but they don't go anywhere near it. All water tests are good. Is this normal or is my fear correct.
<They are not white in the wild. Likely re-incorporating algal symbionts. Your Clownfish are not likely involved. Bob Fenner>
Thanks in advance
John Kummer
Anemone; and Unidentified Globular Growth
Hi Bob and Crew,
<Howdy>
Bob - we love your book! We have a 20 gal. tank with a live rock, a
3-spot damsel, two turban snails, two scarlet-leg hermits, a sebae
anemone, and
a tiny conch. We have two questions:
<Tough to keep all this going in such a small environment>
1. Our Sebae anemone is what propelled us to find your web site, and then
buy
your book (should have done both first before setting up a salt water
tank!).
<Amen!>
When we bought the Sebae three months ago, it was pretty, pure white, and
we
didn't know what kind it was. When it started getting "dirty" we
became
worried, and on your site, found out that although the Sebae was a poor
choice,
the "dirty" coloring was actually a good sign. Since then,
though, a couple of
worrisome things have occurred:
<Okay...>
First, usually at night, and often for periods of time during the day, the
anemone shrivels up and pulls all of its tentacles inside and looks dead.
Then, later, it fluffs back out and looks healthy again. Is this normal?
<Yes, to a large extent... as you now know, a good deal of this species
nutrition is derived photosynthetically... at night, no light, no reason
to extend ones body... more risk to damage, predation...>
We
never see pictures of Sebaes in this state - they are always pictured
fully
fluffed out.
<I rarely see folks "going to the bathroom on television or in the
movies"... Not pretty, and we're mostly all asleep at the time...
What would Anthony write? <Wink, Smile?>>
Second, recently, the Sebae suddenly had 'crimps' in its tentacles - as if
tiny
elastic bands had been put around 25% of its tentacles, from about 1/4 to
1/2
way down from the tips. The 'crimps' didn't look like bite or pinch marks
- but
rather as if some circling muscle had cramped all the way around. Over the
next
few days, most of them broke off at that point (though we never saw that
happen,
and never found any 'pieces' - they are gone! - we did see the anemone put
the
damaged ends in its mouth and pull hard...) Since then, no new episodes
like
that have happened. The anemone just looks battered, and its tentacles
look
sort of kinky, rather than gracefully smooth. And, with the tentacles
different
lengths, that looks funny too. But - for good portions of the day, it
looks
fully inflated and happy. We are enclosing a picture of our "Kinky
Sebae
Anemone."
<No worries. Natural morphology>
The water quality has been good - we test often and change 2 1/2 gallons
twice a
week. The only other thing which has been different is that lately the
anemone
has been traveling a circuit, ending up at the same place every night,
where as
before she stayed in one place for weeks. We have a power head for current
and
lots of light - standard tank cover light plus two 40 watt spot lights,
and
natural sunlight for an hour a day.
<Sounds good>
2. About a month ago, we noticed this odd dark green shiny metallic glob
on our
live rock. It looks almost like a metallic marble, but it is flattened
somewhat.
It is growing, and is now about 1/4 inch diameter. What can this possibly
be?
<Yes. A colonial algae, Valonia. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/greenalg.htm See it there, near the bottom?
Read the FAQs over re its significance>
We are enclosing a picture of this (Green Marble Thing Growing) and in the
picture, it looks like a dark green bubble - but it is solid looking - you
cannot see into it.
Thanks for your time and your wonderful web-site!
Rob 'n Robin
<Thank you for being part of it. Bob Fenner> |
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