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Caribbean biotope stocking plan
Planning a Spicy Caribbean Biotope System! 6/5/08
Howdy Crew!
<Hey there! Scott F. in tonight!>
Finally managed to get a much bigger tank. After placing sand, the internal
volume (not counting rock) will be 130gal, with a quite sizable sump/refugium.
Besides the return (which runs to a SCWD), I'm also running a closed loop with a
Quiet One 4400 (with headloss it's running about 700 GPH). After the rock is in
and everything is cycled I will likely be placing a Koralia, Vortech, or
something else in there for added flow.
<Good idea!>
Anyways...
I've been spending a week or two a year in the Caribbean, and this last trip to
Cozumel gave me some extended bottom times that allowed me actually sit and
observe, rather than just drifting by in an effort to see everything. This has
led me to deciding on a biotope, rather than a selection of fish and corals from
all over.
<Excellent! I'm a huge fan of biotope systems. There are numerous advantages to
creating such a system, among them decreased allelopathic competition, a more
"familiar" environment for animals, and a far more unique display than the usual
"garden reefs" that we are so used to seeing!>
For corals, I plan on having various Zoas, Ricordea/Mushrooms, Brain Coral,
Purple Seawhips, Golden Rods, and some others that are easy to take care of and
that wave around a bit. I'd also like to have some sponges, like the Red Balls,
but have yet to attempt any.
<Sponges do have some specialized husbandry requirements, so do read up on the
specific needs of the species that you intend to keep. Consider limiting your
coral selections to just a few species.>
Fishwise, I've got an extensive list. Numbers wise, I'm sure this will have to
be trimmed down some, but I'm more worried about introduction order. Would
really appreciate some advice there. But, on to the list!
4-5 Blue Reef Chromis
3 Pygmy "Cherub" Angels (I do have some experience with harems)
<I've always been a big fan of monogamy, but whatever floats your boat...!LOL
Introduce 'em last>
2 Yellowheaded Jawfish (mated pair from a friend)
1-2 Sharp-nosed Puffers (they're actually pretty comedic!)
<Do rethink them if you're going with small, peaceful species.>
1 Red Lip or Diamond Blenny
1 Royal Gramma (I'd like more, but they fight so much...)
<You can keep them in groups with enough rockwork for them to hide under and
establish territories, and aggression is general dispersed among the group
without too much bloodshed, in my experience.>
2-4 Neon Gobies
1 Blue Tang (gotta find an adult with a yellow tail! Seen 'em!)
<Do re think the Tang- they need a lot of physical space in order to live long
and healthy lives. Think small fishes!>
1 Longsnout Butterflyfish (one of my favorite! Hard to find for sale though) or
Spotfin or Reef
<Good luck- neat fishes if you can get 'em...>
I'd also like to have a small Golden or Shy Hamlet. Other maybes include 3-4
Flamefish, Chalk Bass, Bicolor Damsel (the pretty variety, jerks, but
entertaining). Might also reduce the list in order to have a Porkfish or Queen
Angel. It's really a shame that the Cowfish and Boxfish all get so big...
<All nice fish, but you need to think about the stocking limits of this
aquarium- unfortunately, you can't have it all! The Queen Angel, although
beautiful, is best enjoyed in the wild- this fish simply gets HUGE and is just
not a good choice in anything less than a HUGE aquarium (ie; a public aquarium),
IMO.>
Inverts: Usual assortment of stars and hermits. I really had a good time
watching Sexy Shrimp, but they're lunch for so man fish that I don't think any
would survive without an Anemone (which I am not fond of at all). No Banded
Coral Shrimp or Sally Lightfoots, as in my experience they are too aggressive.
<With small fishes, they can be a nuisance at times. Best to follow your
instincts on this one.>
I am tempted to put in a Frogspawn.
<Umm...wrong ocean, babe!>
I have access to a pretty amazing colony that has multiple colors mixed in the
same heads! No, seriously, the colors are not separated into distinct segregated
heads, there are literally pink and green tentacles mixed on the same head.
Pretty wild, but out of the Caribbean biotope...
<I was just giving you a hard time. Of course they are out of place in a
Caribbean biotope, but it's all a matter of how "authentic" you want to go with
your biotope. They are VERY aggressive corals that can nettle other species, so
do keep this in mind when considering stocking your system with one of these
specimens. Provide large spatial separation between the Frogspawn and other
corals.>
Related, this trip I saw a HUGE number of Pipefish, but not where I normally find
them. The currents were rippingly fast in the Palancar area, but there were
large deposits of seagrass bits and pieces in slack areas. There were many
different species of Pipefish in these areas, and even scouting out the sandbeds
nearby. I was shocked to find a trio cruising the sand at 125', picking at all
sorts of tiny critters, not a bit of cover in sight!
<Neat observation...could make an interesting biotope aquarium in and of itself,
huh?>
Near-shore Seahorses have apparently been carried away in recent months, and I
didn't see a single one. There were more lizards in the water than Seahorses...
<Lovely...>
Anyways, many suggestions or advice would be appreciated! Thanks,
Darby
<Well, Darby, I think that you're on the right track with this biotope (okay-
the Frogspawn...I dunno about that one!), and it could be a unique display. A
few thoughts here: I'd try to limit both the number of coral species and fish
species. For example, keep maybe two or three coral species maximum, perhaps
just two. Also, consider limiting the fish species as well. I'd consider keeping
a group of several Royal Grammas (like 5 or more), a few Hamlets, and perhaps
that trio of Centropyge. With good aquascaping, you can create a tall vertical
reef structure on one side of the aquarium, with a large overhang, which will
provide a very natural setting for the Gramma colony. You might even get the
chance to observe breeding behavior. If you leave on side of the aquarium almost
devoid of rock, you could create a sandy rubble area in which the Jawfishes
could construct their burrows. You could create a very unique display in with
small fishes and a few corals! Think about it!>
p.s. The Catalina Goby fry that I passed to a friend a couple of years ago have
been spawning with others. My buddy is now attempting to raise them in
commercial quantities, but having some problems. He's also a bit too proud to
seek concerted advice, as he doesn't want anyone to get the jump on him. Ah, the
failings of ego...
<Neat to hear! Good for him and for the hobby! Thanks for sharing, and be sure
to send me some pics of your system when it gets going! Could use some for my
MACNA biotope presentation! Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Re: Caribbean biotope stocking plan
Caribbean Biotope (Pt. 2) 6/7/08
Thanks for the advice Scott! I do appreciate it.
<I'm happy to be of service! Thrilled that you're considering biotope modeling
for your aquarium!>
Keeping the types of corals low is going to be tough for me. I guess I'll go
with the purple photosynthetic gorgonians (for movement and color, as well as
cover), Zoas, and maybe one of the encrusting brains (hard to find, but they
look great under blue moonlights when they open up at night!). This should give
a pretty good color variety with the green and red/orange sponges. I'd really
like some of the purple sponges, but from what I understand they aren't very
hearty in captivity.
<They can be touchy, categorically. You will need to research the specific
sponge that you plan on keeping to see if it is viable in captivity.>
The way this tank is built, the closed loop comes into the back wall almost in
the center. With a 5" sandbed, it's closer to the bottom, so I built a
horizontal spray-bar out of 1" pvc, painted black (using Krylon Fusion,
supposedly marine safe. Please let me know if otherwise!) to help hide it
against the black background, until the coralline algae takes hold. Because of
this, my aquascaping plan is to create a pair of rock pinnacles in the center of
the tank, allowing the fish to more room to swim (in racetrack laps if they
wish) and for the alternating flow of the SCWD to have some effect.
<I like that aquascape idea...it breaks up the usual "wall" of rock that we
construct, and provides the addition of multiple territories for fishes.>
As I don't have the rock yet, I do not know whether there will be a bridge
between them, or if they'll be individuals, but it should present enough sand
bed for the Jawfish to be just about wherever they want.
<I would not build a "bridge"- let them stand without touching each other for
maximum effect.>
I'm not sure if this scheme cuts down on hidey-holes or not, but there'll be
plenty of ledges. I do like the idea of having separate "zones" like you
suggested, and this
was my plan when I was going with a 90gal Long (I was going to have a reef zone,
rubble zone, sand zone, then seagrass zone, over the course of 6' of length).
I'll seriously ponder keeping the rockwork on one mostly one side, but want to
be sure that it doesn't look unbalanced/awkward.
<It is a different sort of aesthetic than we're used to, but you will find it to
be quite attractive and interesting over time!>
I'm surprised that you suggested more than 1 Hamlet. I figured that, as bass,
they'd be much more prone to predatory action in a group than solitary. That was
the reasoning for having a shoal of Blue Reef Chromis; the Hamlet may get them
to shoal, but they'd be too big for him to eat. I saw one while diving with a
juvenile Cherub Angel in it's mouth, and though I wasn't happy about it, that's
nature... I wouldn't want a repeat in my tank! Would Golden or Shy Hamlets be
more appropriate?
<I like the Indigo Hamlet, myself. I do need to backtrack a bit- I must confess
that I wasn't thinking "Hamlet" when responding to your query. You are right-
one per aquarium, in most cases. I was thinking about Serranus tortugarum, the
"Chalk Bass", for some reason. You can keep a small group of these guys in a
large aquarium.>
I like the idea of multiple Royal Grammas, as they're colorful and fun to watch.
One of the few fish that actually hangout upside down!
<Yes- and they do surprisingly well in groups if you have a rockwork for them to
shelter in and under.>
As for the harem... well, I was young and... I mean, er...
<Heh, heh- I couldn't resist!>
From what I've seen with others who have had Cherubs in groups, it is apparently
good to start with 5 all at once, as you'll likely loose at least 1, and another
will likely become a "superfluous second banana" who can be removed, leaving the
3 breeders. If you just go with 3, you may end up with only 1, as there's no
guarantee on gender if there is territory to claim as individuals. Guess I may
be writing up a report all this at some date, if it works.
<You got it- this is really the best way to start multiple Centropyge in an
aquarium. Introduction of modest sized groups of juveniles is the way to go.>
Big fish will stay out. They were just a pipedream anyways, as I know where they
belong. ...sigh... It'd be nice to have a system though where you could have a
Queen Angel, Queen Trigger, some large Cowfish and Filefish, and maybe a ray or
two. Man, it'd have to be HUGE! Guess that's what the ocean's for... heh heh.
<You hit it right on the had, Darby...Think SMALL!>
Thanks again,
Darby
<Best of luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Re: Caribbean biotope stocking plan 6/10/08
Caribbean Biotope (Cont'd.)
Hiya Scott,
<Hi there!>
Chalk Bass! Hadn't even thought of them as an aquarium species! I think
it's probably because most that I've seen were laying tight against the
reef, or in crevices. They are somewhat attractive, though I can't
remember seeing any in any LFS. Hmm, I'm sure a direct supplier in
Florida would be the route. Better research them a bit.
<Yes, they make fine aquarium fishes!>
The Indigo Hamlet certainly is a handsome fish, but not the color combo
I'm looking for. I think a nice bright yellow Shy Hamlet could be a nice
"visual piece".
<Ahh, I hear you. It's important to choose types and colors of fishes
that please you!>
The tough part is visualizing the tank beforehand. I mean, before I was
angling towards a blue-fish based tank, with a few brightly colored
accent fish, but now it's a bit yellow.
<Again- no right or wrong here. It's just a matter of personal
preference.>
I say that, but who knows what the temperament of the Royal Grammas will
be? I've had some that were very active and always out, and some that
tended to be much more shy...
<The personalities of these fishes do vary widely. However, they are
quite sociable in groups, once a social hierarchy has been established.
With enough hiding places and a large enough group, you'll see
fascinating social interactions.>
Here's another question: I've seen some Dendrophylliids (no, not the
'tree lovers') in several places in the Texas gulf and Caribbean. Though
they are an introduced species, their coloration certainly would add a
splash! Do you think they'd be proper for a Caribbean biotope?
Thanks again,
Darby
<Well Darby, I'd have to say that they are not appropriate. However,
there us no "law" that says that you need to follow certain stocking
guidelines. It's all about your tastes and goals for the system. If
you're a purist, you'll only utilize animals strictly found in the
biotope that you are attempting to replicate. If you want to take a
little "geographic liberty", it's your call! Enjoy! Regards, Scott F.>
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Atlantic Blue Tang stopped
eating 03/19/2008
Hi WetWebMedia Crew,
<<Morning, Andrew today>>
A few months ago I upgraded from a reef 90 to a 215 gallon with a 65 gallon sump
that had Caulerpa growing in it. All water parameters were normal. The aquarium
had been crystal clear until 4 nights ago when the lights went out in the main
display tank, and the lights cycled on in the sump. About a half an hour later,
I noticed the tank was muddy dirty. Alarmed, I looked everywhere in the tank to
see what could have caused it. I looked down in the sump and noticed that the
Caulerpa was looking pretty pale so I pulled it all out. I also observed a
spider and a lady bug in the sump water. I immediately went to your website to
read up on Caulerpa, and started to get worried. I didn't have any salt water
available because we had just performed a water change. I already had a
PolyFilter in place, and immediately added activated carbon. The protein skimmer
was skimming like crazy and had an odor to it. I even turned the ozonizer on. I
observed the tank all night long hoping everything would be fine. The tank
cleared up completely after a few hours. So far, everything seems fine except my
Atlantic Blue tang (who use to eat like a pig) suddenly doesn't want to eat
anymore. She has two other tang tankmates; a Sailfin tang and a Yellow tang. The
other two tangs still eat like pigs. All the other fish are doing fine.
<<Continue to provide greens, maybe add some garlic or Selcon to attract the
tang to eating again. Probably been spooked from the tank water issue. Very
delicate species of tang>>
The Atlantic Blue tang will swim up to the algae clip as though she is going to
eat from it, but them swims away and doesn't eat a single bite. When I feed in
the morning, she swims up to the food as though she is going to eat it, and then
swims away not grabbing a single bite. She does, however, graze on the live
rocks and sand. I have also noticed that she doesn't appear to be the dominant
tang anymore. She is somewhat passive now.
<<As the tang is still picking from the rock and sand, i don't think its
anything to be overly concerned about. Try feeding as i mentioned above>>
Today I ordered some Red Tang Heaven from Indo-Pacific, hoping she might eat
that. I read about this stuff on your website and ordered it several months ago.
My tangs absolutely love the stuff.
<<Good deal>>
Do you think the Caulerpa crashed and caused the tank to go dirty? I don't think
it was from the liverock because it had been in the 90 gallon for almost a year,
with the exception of a few pieces that I bought from the LFS, already cured.
<<Its possible it did cause the water issue yes>>
Any suggestions as to what might be wrong with the tang? Is there anything I can
do to save her? This is my favorite fish and I would feel really sad if
something were to happen to her.
<<See above, also read more here including linked articles and FAQ's
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acanthurTngs.htm
Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nancy
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
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What was it - eel or
sea snake? -03/13/08
This week while snorkeling in St. Kitts I saw an eel or sea snake [I
know there are supposed to be none in the Caribbean.]
<Correct>
It was 11 inches long,
checkered [perfectly] from head to tail and I think the tail appeared
pointy.
The checkered colors were bright white and jet black and perfect
rectangles.
Each rectangle was sharp, about 8 mm long by 5 mm wide and the long
rectangles were oriented length wise. The design was a perfect black
rectangle next to a white rectangle on either side as well as on top and
bottom. Each of the four corners of the black [or white rectangle]
touched a black [or white] rectangle about or below. It looked
geometrically perfect.
<Mmm, maybe Muraena retifera. Bob Fenner>
What was it - eel or
sea snake? -03/13/08
This week while snorkeling in St. Kitts I saw an eel or sea snake [I
know there are supposed to be none in the Caribbean.] It was 11 inches
long,
checkered [perfectly] from head to tail and I think the tail appeared
pointy.
The checkered colors were bright white and jet black and perfect
rectangles.
Each rectangle was sharp, about 8 mm long by 5 mm wide and the long
rectangles were oriented length wise. The design was a perfect black
rectangle next to a white rectangle on either side as well as on top and
bottom. Each of the four corners of the black [or white rectangle]
touched a black [or white] rectangle about or below. It looked
geometrically perfect.
Please email what you think it was.
Thank you, Dr. George Oremland
<Possibly a Snake eel. Have a look here:
http://www.robertosozzani.it/Bonaire/murena03.html ; here:
http://florent.us/reef/carib/sharptaileel.html and here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ophichthidae.htm.
Cheers, Marco.>
Re: What was it - eel
or sea snake? Follow up – 03/14/08
Thanks Marco. I checked all of those sites and none of those eels
were even
close.
<Too bad, one of these species is pretty common in the Caribbean.>
When I saw it I was in 3 feet of clear water. I observed it for a few
minutes and was only a foot above it. It was swimming over the sand
about 20
feet from a pile of rocks. Sorry I didn't have a camera and was afraid
to touch it.
<A picture would be great, although it could still be difficult to ID,
because there may not be much material to compare it to. A number of
contrasting black/white snake eels is known from the Caribbean, many are
from shallow water, but nonetheless they are rarely seen and live
cryptic, often nocturnal lives, so the only pictures/drawings available
can be found in the first descriptions. There are quite a few of the
genus Ophichthus (about 10 species), Callechelys and some others with
various color patterns, possibly one of them was your eel. You could try
Carpenter, K.E. (ed.): The living marine resources of the Western
Central Atlantic. Volume 2: Bony fishes part 1 (Acipenseridae to
Grammatidae). FAO Species Identification Guide for Fishery Purposes and
American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists Special
Publication No. 5. Rome, FAO. 2002. pp. 601-1374, which is available
online (at the FAO page), but often details of the dentition or
vertebral counts are needed for ID. Cheers, Marco.>
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TWA ID
question? – 08/27/07
Hey Robert,
<Pullz>
Captured this pict inside a tube sponge.... I believe.... what is the
little creature inside?
<Mmm, well there's a couple/pair? of Stenorhynchus (Arrow Crabs) and
what appears to be some species of brittlestar further down... and a
teensy
Cleaner Goby... Gobiosoma... in the foregd. a bit out of focus...>
How goes life in Cali??
<Mighty fine... Great weather this time of year>
I received my UW camera system.? Ended up going with a Canon Digital SLR
and Ikelite housing and strobe.?
<How nice! A fancy D10...30?!>
Jumped in a friend's pool this afternoon to see how things were
balanced.?
Seems to work out fairly well... looking forward to getting in the
waters around the Bahamas in Oct!? What's the status with you??
<Still up in the air... I've got a pressing book re-write... am working
on diligently. If I have to sign up last minute, are there single bunks
avail. at this point?>
Hopefully, you both are coming.? It will be good to catch up above and
below the waterline...
Thanks for your help....
Chris
<I do hope to make it Chris. Cheers, BobF> |
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Underwater Fish Encounter,
Questions RE, TWA Labrid ID 8/16/07
Good Day WWM Crew--
<Eric>
Your website is such an AMAZING wealth of knowledge and has helped me MANY
times!!
<Ah, good>
This is not necessarily an "aquarium related" question... but specific to marine
fish....
A few months ago I was lucky enough to go snorkeling in the Caribbean, mainly
off the shores of St. Thomas and St. Maarten. This was very exciting.. as I'm
sure you all know. I LOVE IT!! and want to go diving very soon... Anyway--
I almost (accidentally of course) stepped on a 2-3ft wide Stingray when swimming
on the surface of about 3 feet of water that emerged DIRECTLY under me, and swam
away, just as I was about to step down in the sand. That was exhilarating, to
say the least! Good thing I didn't make contact.
<Yes>
Also, I saw many amazing things and different fish, but have one specific
question. In about 10 ft of water, I went down toward the bottom, and looked up.
Almost immediately, there was a smaller sized school (probably 10-20) fish, each
between 6-12 inches in length formed a circle and swan around me, one fish
behind the other in close succession, with me at the center. The diameter of the
circle was probably 6-8 feet or so.. They were bright blue, and the best way I
can describe them is as follows": They look like a cross between Yellow Tang-ish
and Damsel fish bodies, but were much more "stretched out".. Close to a Foxface
Lo body shape, without the long nose and or "spikes"... maybe close to an
Anthias, especially the tail section... but this isn't a great match either...
very vibrantly colored blue as well.
They look like nothing (no exact match) I have seen in all my reading of the WWM
site, nor through looking at every (yes, every marine fish) on the Dr's Foster
and Smith Website. I tried fishbase.org but that site is a list of scientific
names...
<An apt description of what many folks don't recognize as a Wrasse/Labrid... the
Creole Wrasse, Clepticus parrae (Bloch & Schneider 1801)>
I know this is a wide opened question, with many possibilities, but any help
(suggestions/websites/etc) would be great!
Also, have you heard of/seen this behavior (circling around me) while diving?
<Heeeee! Yes... lucky they didn't all take a small bite! Just kidding. Cheers,
Bob Fenner>
Thanks!!!
Eric
Purple Spined Sea Urchin...
Arbacia punctulata 7/30/07
Hi Crew.
<Hi Rick, Mich here.>
I was walking the beach in Florida the other day on the Gulf of Mexico side and
found a purple spined sea urchin.
<Lucky you... the walking on the beach part... I seem to be good at finding
urchins with my feet! Ouch!>
I did a web search on them and they are, according to them Arbacia punctulata-
purple spined sea urchin.
<Is endemic to Florida, and generally live on rocky bottoms as opposed to sandy
bottoms.>
I was thinking about putting him in my FOWLR tank. Is he safe?
<Mmm, I doubt that you will be able to provide suitable nutrition for him. These
animals typically eat sessile invertebrates which he will likely consume your
current tank population quite quickly. Gut content analyses have show bryozoans,
hydroids, barnacles and tunicates and limited algae. The algae are typically
only those growing on the rubble. but the diet is usually more heavily weighted
with animal matter>
I have a coral shrimp and a tang. goby and clown. Right now I have him in my QT
tank. Would he benefit my tank?
<I don't think the tank would benefit nor do I think it the urchin would
benefit. I think it would be best to return him to where he was found.>
I also found some large hermit crabs, about 2 1/2 inches and was wondering if
these would be good substrate cleaners?
<A big no go there! Usually any large hermit crabs are highly predatory, capable
of killing fish and even well protected animals such as urchins.>
Those I didn't bring home
<Wise.>
but the urchin was too pretty to pass up and they do sell them locally.
<I do not have personal experience with this species, but from what I have read,
I obviously have concerns, perhaps those in your local market may be able to
guide you better, but with the information I found describing the typical diets
of these urchins, I would be concerned about starvation.
More here: http://www.int-res.com/articles/meps2005/295/m295p171.pdf >
Thanks for all info past and present you guys are great and make my hobby so
much easier. Rick
<You're welcome and thank you for the kind words. Mich>
Invert IDs,
TWA
Hey Crew.
<Andy>
I was hoping that you could help me ID some inverts that came in on some
Florida aquacultured live rock that I purchased. I have scoured WWM and
the web but came up empty. I believe the creature in the first picture
is some type of soft coral.
<Mmm, to me also... though this may be the beginnings of a gorgonian...
likely of the genera Telesto or Stereotelesto... even an
antipatharian... Antipathes lenta... Easier to make out with growth>
At first, I assumed it was an algae, but then I noticed it will retract
very quickly
<Oh! Not likely the latter on this info.>
into its "cave" if my cleaner shrimp touches it and then will
immediately come back out to play once danger is away. The second
picture is some type of anemone.
I want to know if it is what you guys refer to as a "pest" anemone so
that I can clear it out before it starts to go all sexual on me.
Thanks for your help!
Andy
<Is likely a Sponge Anemone... though could be a Glass Anemone...
BobF> |
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TWA Theme Aquarium Stocking Questions
6/5/07
Dear WWM Crew,
<Jeff>
Thanks for the great site. I've recently set up a 225 Gal aquarium and found
your site to be invaluable in getting over some initial hurdles. My favorite
search for a couple of weeks was "sump noise Fenner".
<Heeee!>
I'm finally over my initial plumbing concerns thanks to your site but I have
a few questions about stocking that I couldn't totally resolve using your
site.
<I do wish you, EricR... someone, would take on the semi-monumental task of
writing some definitive work (article series, a small book) re the ins/outs
of choices, tools, application of setting up marine systems... particularly
plumbing, circulation, aeration, filtration issues>
My basic setup is a 225 Gal aquarium (72"x24"x30") with a standard 55 Gal
aquarium used as a sump/refugium. BTW, your Reef Invertebrate book was very
helpful both in suggested aquascaping and refugiums.
<Ah, good>
I have about 4 inches of sand (both in the main tank and in the refugium)
and around 300lbs of LR. I have two overflows feeding the sump of about 600
gph each. I'm using a quiet one 6000 which should be giving me about 1000
GPH at a 5' head. I'm also running a CoralLife 220 skimmer in the sump and
have 4 powerheads in the main tank of 300GPH each for additional current.
I want to set up a TWA theme FOWLR tank but without being a fanatic about
it. My intended stocking list (and finally my question!) is: small zebra
moray(<1'),
<What species? Not Gymnomuraena...>
small SFE(<1'), rock beauty(3"), french(4") and queen angel(4")
<Mmm, I'd settle on just one of these Pomacanthids>
and a tang(5").
<And depending on species try three or five of this...>
Also a few inverts such as a pair of banded coral shrimp and a couple of
urchins. The rock beauty seems to be the most questionable on my list but
this setup seems like a reasonable start. If you think the rock beauty would
be doomed in this setup do you think I could substitute some other dwarf
angel such as a flame?
<... Not of the TWA... I think you could try, be successful with any of the
three listed indigenous species here>
Is the stocking order very important with this list?
<Yes... actually always a good idea to investigate, stock in a "certain"
order... by and large less to more aggressive/territorial...>
I think the queen should probably come last with either the zebra or rock
beauty first but I'm really not sure.
<The alpha animal/s should almost always be placed last>
I've gotten some advice from a LFS which advised me NOT to try the zebra
moray with a queen angel but I've since seen several posting from other
sites where that was done successfully. What do you think?
<Queen Angels can be trouble... see my article and the FAQs files on WWM
re...>
The stocking seems to be well within the rough guidelines that I found on
your site. What do you think?
Thanks for the help!
Jeff Barnes
<Mmm, well... I'd like to urge you (so I am) to do a bit more look/seeing
here... It will add greatly to your enjoyment, appreciation of the biotope
you're trying (I think) to acheive... To select, source a TWA Muraenid if
you're going to stock one... to suggest you secure Floridian LR... Keep
reading, taking good notes for now... and we'll be chatting. Bob Fenner> Atlantic Blue Chromis (Chromis cyanea) 4/14/07
Wet Web Media -
<Mmm, is this the person who was chatting with Morgan Lidster... (Inland
Aquatics)... He and I talked on the phone yesterday re this species...>
I have a question concerning the mortality rates of the Atlantic
Blue Chromis. I have designed and setup a 90 gallon reef tank as a
niche biotope to the Northern Gulf of Mexico.
<Neat>
The tank was setup a year ago and invert and sponge growth has been great. The
rockscape will feature large boulder type layouts and will feature 3
Pacific Montastrea corals, a couple of Porites and a lone Gorgonia. One of the
Montastrea's is farmed and I was able to acquire 11 frags from the same mother
colony to simulate one coral dominating the area, with the others scattered in
to give some color and texture. Other inverts would be the Orange White Claw
Hermit (C. tibecins?), Coral Banded Shrimp pair and a dozen Cerith snails (they
should breed to a stable population up or down depending on the algae
available).
The fish plan was to feature a pair of neon gobies and a school of 7 blue
chromis (C. cyanea). All my research on the web and in books indicates
everything should be okay and my biggest problem will be that they may not
school once comfortable in captivity,
<Perhaps in time...>
not a concern to me. However, in looking for a source to purchase these fish, I
am finding that they are in fact difficult to keep.
<Mmm, yes... I think this is mainly due to the fact that this fish is poorly
handled post capture/collecting... but it also does not adapt easily to captive
conditions>
This is the first I have heard of this and I see no references to this, not
even on this site.
<Mmm:
http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.WetWebMedia.com&q=chromis+cyanea&sitesearch=www.WetWebMedia.com&client=pub-4522959445250520&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A99C9FF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en>
What are the issues with keeping these fish?
<This fish? As stated above... it doesn't "like" being netted... like Zanclus,
Dascyllus albisella, a bunch of other examples... it seems to die easily from
"stress"...>
The tank is pretty much dedicated so it would not be much effort for me to meet
any known special requirements. Is there anything special I need to do? Is
my fish stocking plan destined to fail?
<Mmm, not necessarily... I think you have better chance than most all folks
here... with your biotope of size, age... Just need to find someone willing to
ship you the Damsels. I'd try contacting some of the "diver-direct" sources in
Florida...>
If I need to change my fish stoking list, can you recommend another fish in the
Gulf that would do well with my plan (perhaps the Purple Reeffish)?
Thanks,
Chris Sanchez
New Orleans
<Mmm, well, there are always "standard" animals from here like the Pearly
Jawfish... But do try the Chromis... Bob Fenner>
Re: Atlantic Blue Chromis (Chromis cyanea) 4/16/07
Bob Fenner, thanks for your reply. Being that there are no other fish in my
aquarium, would you still recommend quarantine?
<With this species, situation, no>
My concern is that quarantine will cause additional stress that may lead to a
higher likelihood of mortalities since QT tanks are seldom as large and as
mature as the display tank.
<We are in agreement here>
For example, I use a 3 gallon for coral quarantine with no skimmer or live
rock and perform daily water changes. A school of chromis would not do well
here so I would need to start over on the QT setup. What would you recommend as
the minimum quarantine standards if I were to get the Chromis five at a time?
<I would still directly place this number, species, in the ninety posited, w/o
quarantine... in batches>
Tank size, equipment, rock/substrate, aged (1 month, 3 months...)?
Thanks Again.
Chris Sanchez
New Orleans
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Condylactis Anemone Compatibility 4/10/07
Hello,
<Hi Cindy>
I have been searching for the past few days and can not find an answer to this.
What are the natural enemies of a Condylactis anemone? I have heard that blue
leg hermit crabs will attack them.. but have found nothing to prove that (just a
rumor at this point).
<Do not believe the blue legs will be a problem. The Four Eye Butterfly Fish
which is native to these waters would be a problem with the Condy.
The Condylactis (gigantea) has many symbioses also; Periclimenes anthophilus
(cleaner shrimp), Stenorhynchus seticornis (Arrow Crab) and Apogon spp.
(juvenile wrasses).
As for compatibility with other animals, I advise you to search for a
fish/invert you wish to add to be sure that either the anemone or fish/invert
will be compatible with each other.>
We are wanting to set up a tropical Atlantic only tank and want to avoid any
problems with critters attacking the Condylactis when the time finally comes to
purchase one. I know it will be some time before we actually add the anemone to
the tank; but also want to avoid any problems with unsuitable tank mates.
<Understand.> <<Likely only large crabs, possibly Angels will be problematical
here. RMF>>
Thank you for any assistance you can give me.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Cindy
p.s.
We already have two reef tanks up and running, so we are not complete newbies to
reef keeping.. just can't find a straight answer on the question at hand.
<Searching/reading/learning will pay big dividends in this hobby.>
125 Gallon Atlantic Biotope 02/17/07
Hello,
<Hi Mike! Mich with you tonight.>
I recently acquired a juvenile gray or French Angel (Pomacanthus paru) less
than 1 inch in length. I have had the fish for almost 2 months now. It is
doing quite well. It's feeding on freeze-dried brine shrimp and formula 2
flakes.
<Not much nutrition in the brine.>
I have an empty 125 gallon tank I will be setting up shortly for the fish
and I would like to set it up with only Atlantic fish as a FOWLR.
<Biotopes are always nice.>
Would it be possible to keep both the French/Gray with a Queen.
<Not a good idea in a 125-gallon.>
My ideal setup would be the French/Gray, Atlantic Blue Surgeon (Acanthurus
coeruleus), Atlantic Longnose Butterfly (Prognathodes aculeatus), Pygmy
Angel (Centropyge argi), Blackcap Basslet (Gramma melacara), and if possibly
the queen instead of something else on the list. Would this be possible?
<I think the Queen (Holocanthus ciliaris), lovely as she may be, is an
inappropriate choice for you tank. The Queen should be housed in a tank of
at least 180 gallons. Mixing with a French in 125-gallon tank would not
make for peace and harmony in my opinion. I think the rest of your stocking
list is fine.>
Thanks, Mike
<Welcome! -Mich>
Caribbean Biotope + Herbivores in a Nano cube 1/24/07
Hey guys.
<Hi there, Mich here.>
I'm planning a Caribbean biotope in my 24 gallon tank. I haven't been able to
find much info on the net regarding setup or types
(different reef types, depths) of these aquariums, and I was wondering if you
knew any good ones.
<John Tullock has an excellent book called The Natural Reef Aquarium, which is
arranged by geographically area. This would be an great resource for you.>
On another note, I can't find any herbivorous Caribbean fish!
<How about a Redlip Blenny (Ophioblennius atlanticus), would be appropriate for
a 24 gallon tank.
Would best be off using the herbivorous Mithrax crabs or is there some other
option?
<Mmm, don't know that I would call the Mithrax crab herbivorous, they do at
times prey on small animals, so I would use these with caution. I would
consider using a snail or two, not much more in such a small tank at there will
most likely not be enough of a food supply and may result in
starvation. Turbos, Astraea, Trochus, Nerite, Cerith and Nassarius are all
possibilities.>
Thanks.
<Welcome! -Mich>
Live Shell Collecting?...Banned Or Not?
Salty's go 7/6/06
Hi Bob and Crew.
Hello Lloyd>
I have a question I haven't seen addressed on your website (although I
suspect its there somewhere - you have a very comprehensive website). I
know that there are state and federal bans on the harvesting of wild
live rock. Most of the definitions I have found for "live rock" relate
to marine life growing on coral structure and rocks. I like to snorkel
with my kids (I'm fortunate enough to live in South Florida, hurricanes
aside) and when I do, its not at all unusual to find large shells (no
snails inside) that are encrusted with coralline algae, as well as all
kinds of other stuff. I'm not aware of any general ban on the
collection of empty shells. Would it be your opinion that shells, after
becoming encrusted with coralline algae, would be considered "live
rock", and if not, is their any reason they couldn't perform the same
function in a marine aquarium?
<Lloyd, in my opinion, a shell is not a rock, so I'm thinking it would
be legal. Folks go shelling along the shores and this isn't banned. I
like
going shelling at the seaside taverns...One large shell of Bud, please.
OK, I am thinking that, should the conch shell have soft coral(s)
growing on
it, this could present a problem. To be on the safe side I'd go here
(Florida Fish And Wildlife Conservation) and click on the "ask FWC". http://myfwc.com/
Mr. Fenner may know if this is legal. What do you think, Bob?>
I've attached a picture of a horse conch shell I found a few weeks ago
off Florida's gulf coast. If you look closely, you can see (in addition
to the gorgeous purple algae) two fan worms (I think) on the bottom to
the lower right of the hermit crab, and another three at the top.
<Neat!>
Thanks for your thoughts, you guys perform a very valuable service.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Lloyd |
|
 |
Re: Live Rock (shells) 7/6/06
Thanks for your help, James. I've e-mailed the Florida FWC, and
will let you know their response. Now that I know how easy this is, I
have
another quick question (or two). Can you direct me to a single location
that lists the acceptable high/low range for the various factors that
determine marine aquarium water quality (i.e., PH, copper, calcium,
phosphate, alkalinity, nitrite, nitrate, ammonia, etc.), and what steps
to take if your readings are above or below those ranges (i.e., what to
add and how much)? Obviously, nothing's going to apply in all
situations, but there must be some kind if "norm." Is it safe to say
that if you use RO/DI water and a commercially available salt mix, there
shouldn't be a problem with the water going into the tank, and any water
problems arising after that would be the result of other things being
introduced into the tank (waste, excess nutrients, medicine, biological
pests, etc.)?
<Lloyd, this info can easily by found on our site. Do look/search.
I'll start you off here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/watrqualmar.htm>
Thanks again. Lloyd
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> |
Live Rock (shells). RichardB's response
7/6/06
Hi Bob and Crew.
< Hello! >
I have a question I haven't seen addressed on your website (although I
suspect its there somewhere - you have a very comprehensive website).
< Your flattery will get you everywhere! >
I know that there are state and federal bans on the harvesting of wild
live rock. Most of the definitions I have found for "live rock" relate
to marine life growing on coral structure and rocks. I like to snorkel
with my kids (I'm fortunate enough to live in South Florida, hurricanes
aside) and when I do, its not at all unusual to find large shells (no
snails inside) that are encrusted with coralline algae, as well as all
kinds of other stuff. I'm not aware of any general ban on the
collection of empty shells. Would it be your opinion that shells, after
becoming encrusted with coralline algae, would be considered "live
rock", and if not, is their any reason they couldn't perform the same
function in a marine aquarium?
< There is not restriction on the collection of empty shells, and unless
you are intentionally collecting them with intent to sell, there should
be no problem. In small numbers, the shells can be a beautiful addition
to an aquarium. Unfortunately, the stagnant water inside of the shells
may cause problems in the long run, especially if there are too many
shells present in too small of a body of water. The "live rock " has
much more surface area, and can therefore house more bacteria for more
biological filtration. The surface of a shell cannot compare in that
aspect. Piles upon piles of shells would also become a sink or deposit
of detritus and mulm over time, thereby even further increasing the risk
of oxygen depletion. One or two would not be a problem. Ten or twenty
would. >
I've attached a picture of a horse conch shell I found a few weeks ago
off Florida's gulf coast. If you look closely, you can see (in addition
to the gorgeous purple algae) two fan worms (I think) on the bottom to
the lower right of the hermit crab, and another three at the top.
< The shell is beautiful. It must be wonderful for your kids to be able
to grow up with a "backyard" such as South Florida. >
Thanks for your thoughts, you guys perform a very valuable service.
Lloyd
< Thank you for your compliments, I know everyone here appreciates them!
RichardB > |
Losing angelfish only - 06/07/06
Hi Bob and Crew,
<O & R>
Thanks again for all the help you and the crew provide.
Much appreciated! I've e-mailed before and you guys and gals were very helpful.
I always try to find the answers to my problems first, before I take up your
time. This time I've had a little trouble so thought I would drop a line. My
problem has been with keeping queen and French angels. Both juvenile and adults.
I have a 135g
<Not large enough...>
with powder blue tang, 2 perculas, black cap, bi color blenny, and mandarin
goby. Have 150lbs live rock, Dual Bak Pak skimmer, and emperor 400. Aquarium is
about 1 year running. Water parameters have always been excellent. All at 0. PH
8.2. Have 30g quarantine tank in place and use it wisely. I have not had any
problems with my fish except for 2 queen angels and 2 French angels. Which I've
read are very hardy and disease resistant.
<Generally so>
None of them have died right away, seems to be a couple of months down the road.
No signs of disease other than minor lymphocytes here and there.
<This is telling... a large stress component>
One day they start breathing heavy or labored and then die a day or so later.
I've read in your book about size range for each and all of them would be what
you would call acceptable range. 4-5 inches.
<In this small sized system, better to start with even smaller specimens... down
to 2-3 overall inches>
I do have corals in my tank as well and don't know if these are possibilities.
<Are as well... material coming off/from these could be malaffecting these
fishes>
I recently pulled my bubble tip and Sebae anemones out thinking my angels may
have come into contact with them and died from that.
<A possibility>
Is that a possibility that even a larger angel can die from an anemone sting.
<Yes>
Corals in my tank currently are torch coral (which my clowns hosted after losing
their bubble tip), flowerpot, branching hammer, and frogspawn. Could any of
these been the cause or am I missing something.
<Not able to tell from here/this>
All my other fish have not shown any signs of problems to date. After the fourth
or fifth queen and French I'm quite frustrated. I feed them Nori seaweed red and
green, formula one, angel food containing sponge (which they didn't take to very
well) and mysis. A good variety I thought. Any advice would be much welcomed.
Thank you again for taking time out of your busy
schedule. Sincerely, Royce
<I would look to a smaller Pacific, Indian Ocean pomacanthid species here. Wait
till you have a tropical West Atlantic biotopic effort to try one of these
Caribbean angels. Bob Fenner>
Quick TWA Fish ID question, Clepticus parrae - 4/11/2006
Oops, sorry hit the wrong key and sent an empty email.
<Ahh, there you are!>
My girlfriend and I just got back from a cruise in the Bahamas. We went
snorkeling on one of the reefs there and saw tons of this little fish that she
absolutely loves (among many others). I have been trying to ID it online since
getting home with no luck.
It is around 6" long at the most. Shaped long and slender kind of like a
wrasse Coloration: green head, with a narrow white stripe surrounded by black
around gill line, and the rest of the body/tail is yellowish.
Any ideas???
<Likely a/the Creole Wrasse: Clepticus parrae>
This was my (and her) first trip to the tropics and diving on a reef and
it really made me realize how small my tank is compared to a reef. Even though
it is a 125, there were corals and rock formations there larger than my whole
tank! I even followed one blue Atlantic tang for probably 30 or 40 feet
while it swam and grazed. Put things in a new perspective for me.
Thanks
-Ray
<A very worthwhile experience, cross-experience for aquarists... Please see WWM,
fishbase.org, Google for pix... Bob Fenner>
Re: Quick Fish ID question - 04/11/2006
Thanks for the reply.
Did a search and that is not the fish. The one I saw had much sharper
lines of color change. The one I saw looks more like the Bluehead
Wrasse -
Thalassoma bifasciatum - but all I have read it says that is found in
the indo-pacific, not Atlantic/Bahamas.
Ideas?
<Mmm, perhaps initial phases of Thalassoma bifasciatum... see WWM,
Google, even better the works by Paul Humann and Ned DeLoach... BobF>
Thanks
-Ray
Conch reaction? 3/17/06
My friend is going to the Turks soon and is allergic to abalone, the only thing she is deathly allergic too. She wants to try Conch when she goes back
to the Turks. Is Conch related to the abalone family? She is afraid to eat
anything with conch in it and of coarse everything has conch in it there.
She just got certified for diving and is anxious to go dive when she gets
there so I thought of you and since Peter put another one of your lovely fish
on my screen, and your web site calendar it is hard to not think of you. Hope
all else is well with you and Di. Mary Rosi
<Hey Mar! I would be careful re eating Conch (maybe try just a bite of fritters
and see how she feels next day)... as am given to understand that seafood
allergies are pretty broad. BobF, in HI>
Diving and more in the Caribbean - 03/09/2006
Hey Dogfish,
Great cooking on Sunday. Where did you get those sausages? (the ones on the
grill).
<They were purchased at Costco>
Rolling Rocks and I are planning a trip to the Caribbean. One of the things that
we would like to do is go snorkeling. I assume you have been there. Would you
recommend any of the islands?
<Yikes... many... there are many other elements that go into such decisions...
The best water quality unseasonally is to be found in the
Cayman's, Bonaire, Cozumel... but MANY other things to mention... costs of
getting to/fro, staying, other activities... there is "some" snorkeling most
everywhere in the tropical West Atlantic... likely other considerations will
take precedence. Many places have websites... Bob Fenner/DF>
Thanks.
Bone of Arc
Diving TWA 03/9/06
Diving
Bob,
<Aundrea (Woman of the Sea!)>
Hi, we met you at the DFWMAS Next Wave a few months back. I had the Naso in the
125, and I'm from Dana Point, CA, we were talking about diving in Kona, Hawaii.
<Ah, yes... am about "out the door" on my way this very AM to there>
First off, I wanted to tell you how much we enjoyed your presentation. It is
great to have some humor in a sea of dry authors! It was well worth the two hour
drive to speak to you and gain insight from your presentation.
<Glad to share>
Anyways, I am going to take you up on your offer to join you diving one day
soon,
<Come on over anytime... If you'd like to be there during this run, I'll be in
Kona till 4/4...>
but I was wondering if you have had any experience diving Key Largo.
<Just on brief hauls to/fro from Miami to Key West>
Aundrea and I are planning on going in June and would love to know if you
recommend any dive sites or outfitters. Currently we are going with Rainbow Reef
(http://www.rainbowreef.us/)
.
Thanks for your time!,
-Jeff
<Have heard/read many good things re this outfit. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Stocking A Gulf Biotope - 02/25/06
Hello WWM crew!
<<Hello!>>
Alas another compatibility question, but I did as much research as I could
before resorting to bugging y'all. I am preparing to stock my 215g FOWLR and
will be going for a Caribbean/Flower Garden Banks biotope.
<<Hmm, an interesting and very unique Gulf biotope. Have you studied the
information available re at GulfBase.org?>>
My current stocking list was my best effort at a group of fish that would
tolerate each other within the size and bioload capacity of my tank. probably
pushing it.
<<As we all tend to do <G>.>>
Please advise otherwise if need be.
<<Ok>>
My main concern is regarding a Spanish Hog and Bluehead Wrasse (Thalassoma
bifasciatum). Haven’t found any info on WWM regarding housing this Hog and
Thalassomas.
<<As far as compatibility between these two I don't see/know of any particular
problems. Do be aware the hogfish will get quite large...even for your tank.>>
Stocking list:
Damsels-
Jewel Damselfish Microspathodon chrysurus
Bicolor Damselfish Stegastes partitus
Angels-
Queen Angel Holocanthus ciliaris
Cherub Angel Centropyge argi
Tangs-
Atlantic Blue Tang Acanthurus coeruleus
Wrasses/Hogfish-
Bluehead Wrasse Thalassoma bifasciatum
Spanish Hogfish Bodianus rufus
Would only pick one of the Damsels, probably leave out the Argi, and possibly
the Tang as well.
<<With the exception of the damsels (though likely incidental visitors), all
specific to your biotope...kudos for doing your homework! But I have
concerns. The Queen angel, Blue tang, and Spanish hogfish will all become very
large. I think your instinct to drop the tang is well founded as it will need
much more space than this tank supplies, especially with the other large
fishes...I would also leave off the hogfish. Let the Queen Angel grow in to
your centerpiece fish and keep both specie of damsel and the dwarf angel on your
stock list...all of which will (as should the wrasse) be small or fast enough to
stay out of the angel's way as it matures/becomes more aggressive.>>
Tank specs:
215g Oceanic w/ dual Megaflows 72x24x29, 30g Sump containing mechanical/chemical
filtration, Euro-reef cs8-24, Tunze temp and top-off controllers, Tunze 3130,
Mag 12 return, Tunze Stream 6060, 180lbs LR, 120lbs LS, 30g fuge and UV to be
added this summer, 30g weekly water changes.
<<All sounds good.>>
I've got 2 20g quarantine tanks up and running ready to start holding fish in
order of temperament and size.
<<With the exception of the Queen Angel (to be added last), I don't see any need
for a particular stocking order other than maybe begin with the smallest and
proceed to the largest.>>
Please advise.
Thanks mucho!
Kenney B
<<Welcome Kenney, EricR>>
TWA Chaetodont sel. - 02/16/2006
In case you want specifics, I've tried 4 Atlantic Blue Tangs. I would never
ever do this again. But it was the one fish that I most wanted when I got into
the
hobby. But now I will leave them alone. Tried them young and yellow, old and
blue, transitioning.
<I see>
The weird thing is that they were fine for months in each case. Two as long as
6-7 months, one 4 months, one 3 months. All ate and swam just fine. Fat,
healthy. In each case, one morning the fish would appear sluggish after having
been fine the night before. Then splotches by noon, dead by evening.
<My experiences parallel yours... I put the whole lot in a "just don't do well
in captive conditions" category>
Sad, but as I said, I am now leaving them alone. Strange thing is almost every
store, online and LFS, reports them to be very strong fish, easy to keep,
while only a couple report them to be delicate and difficult.
<"And so it goes">
Oh well. Thanks.
<Thank you for relating your experience. You have saved many animals thereby,
and hobbyists, trouble. Bob Fenner>
Requesting Permission to use Pictures for Class Assignment 11/21/05
Good day,
My name is Molsaurol Spencer and I am currently attending the University of the Virgin Islands. I emailed you because as part of my class
assignment for my Ichthyology course, we were asked to create a website on a fish family. I choose Pomacanthidae and I am asking for you permission to
use your pictures for my web page. Please note, that the pictures would be properly cited. Thank You.
Your websites:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/holacanthus/tricolor.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/holacanthus/ciliaris.htm
<As your use is non-commercial, I do grant you this use, per our Policy: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMUsePolicyStmt.htm.
Good fortune in your studies and beyond. Bob Fenner>
Hunting for eels! 11/6/05
Hi, my name is William; I live on an island in the Caribbean. I live on the shore and lately have been chasing after what I believe to be chain-link
morays.
<Most common species in shallow water there...>
It seems to be tougher than I expected. I was wondering if there are anyways of attracting these magnificent eels to a certain area. Just the
other night I went to look for them since they are nocturnal, but I believe they went out to sea for feeding. The area I usually find them in is a small
cove covered in spiny lobster, parrotfish, sea urchins, and green morays.
Recently I have seen three of them in the span of two days. Two of them were large averaging about one and a half feet long. The third though was quite
skinny and was about eight inches long. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
<Can be caught in "minnow traps" incorporating a fyke on one/both end/s... with bait inside. Or with a barbless hook and line, with something meaty for bait... or via a small fence and hand net... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/collmarsdvg.htm
and the linked files above, and the accounts on moray eels archived on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Puffers! TWA Boxfish ID 10/19/05
Bob...
I just stumbled across your site while trying to identify what I presume to
be a puffer about two days ago. I hope you can help me!
I was diving just next to the "Wall" at Cozumel, and had come up to some
coral about 45 ft. down, when I saw the most beautiful little fish I'd ever
seen...and it was TINY!! From the basic shape, I'm guessing it was a puffer of
some kind, and here is the description:
Very small, almost boxy, and only about an inch square...Solid black, but
with brilliant yellow spots all over the black...and probably due to coloration,
I could see no eyes or mouth...and the fins (I'm assuming there WERE some!),
were totally transparent. One clue to me that it was some type of puffer was
that it didn't move any noticeable tail side-to-side like many fish.
<Ahh, yes>
It was gorgeous...but I still can't find any picture that looks like it.
Any ideas?
Thanks a bunch for your help...
Dan Stroud, OKC
<Yes... likely a juvenile boxfish... a Lactophrys species. Please see here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/fwgtwa11.htm
and then use the names to seek other image work on Google, fishbase.org
Bob Fenner>
Stocking Order and Territorial Flameback Pygmy Angel
10/11/05
Dear Crew,
<Hello>
I appreciate that there is much relevant information on your website but I would be most grateful if you could please spell it out for me - apologies in advance for taking up your time. I have a 55 gal FOWLR system, with 66lbs of live rock. I use a Fluval 304 for mechanical filtration, a Red Sea Prizm skimmer and two MaxiJet 600
powerheads for circulation.
In the aquarium I currently have 2 mated percula clownfish, 1 mandarin dragonet (who thankfully is happy to eat frozen food) and a
Flameback pygmy angel. Unfortunately the pygmy angel has become unsurprisingly territorial.
<Mmm, is surprising>
I recently tried to add 2 cardinal fish but these were chased by the pygmy angel until I had to return the surviving one to the LFS where I had bought him. I subsequently tried introducing a lemon peel pygmy angel,
<This tank is too small for two Centropyge species>
taking in part the advice from your site to rearrange the rocks into two distinct piles and removed the
Flameback for a couple of days into the QT tank to allow the lemon peel to establish himself but again he did not survive.
<Good techniques>
My question therefore, is whether there are any fish that you could recommend to me, in particular, fish that will be strong enough to not be affected by the behaviour of the
Flameback but at the same time gentle enough not to frighten my
dragonet (of whom I am incredibly fond!). I read on the saltwater.about.com website that a yellow and a
Naso tang might be possible contenders?
<Maybe a smaller Zebrasoma species, not a Naso... your tank is too small>
I appreciate that I will in a few years need to buy a larger aquarium to accommodate
the Naso. Or do you recommend that I remove the Flameback and return him to the LFS (although he is all but impossible to catch without removing all the LR from the tank).
<I would look into other species that are found in this fish's range (use fishbase.org here) that are also available in the ornamental trade... some of the small basses,
Hypoplectrus... come to mind, as well as some of the smaller labrids from the area>
Thank you so much for all your help and assistance!
Kindest Regards,
Tim Kroemer
<Bob Fenner> Unknown TWA Fish 10/6/05
I was snorkeling off the coast of St Thomas when this school of fish,
maybe four or five went right in front of me. Before I could grab my
camera they were gone. They were the size and shape of a pencil wrasse
and were bluish purple in color. But the thing that stood out was the 3
inch unicorn horn that was coming out of their head. Any idea what they
were?
Thanks Kevin
<Mmm, if it weren't for the horn... I'd say these were Clepticus parrae:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/index.htm
Maybe what you saw as horns were just the black areas on their heads? Otherwise,
I'd look through the Caribbean Reef Guide, Fishes by Paul Humann and Ned
DeLoach. Bob Fenner, away from his copies in HI>
My IMAC plans, TWA f'
Hi Bob - welcome back. Always wanted to go to Bonaire. You'll have to tell
me how you liked it (I'm not a big Carib. fan but Bonaire and Cayman are two
places there I'd actually like to go dive).
<Bonaire, Caymans and Cozumel are the "triumvirate" of tropical West
Atlantic diving IMO... clear water, warm, intact reefs... and lots of
amenities>
I'll see you at IMAC. I'm going to try to get a dinner/lunch together for
the group to go over some important developments with RPI stuff.
<Hotay. BobF>
Thanks........Drew
ID Creature Seen on Dive (3/22/05)
I'm hoping to identify a creature seen in 15' of water off Peter Island in the British Virgin Islands a couple weeks ago. It was about 10" long and 4" wide, quite rectangular, with what seemed like only 6 legs spaced widely apart. There was no obvious head and the front half of it, seen from above, was a milky grey, the rear was off-white, but the distinguishing feature was a band across the middle of its back about 1.5" wide that was bright yellow with black dots over the yellow. None of the photos I've seen of slipper lobsters look like what I saw, which is what someone initially suggested it was, but I have no idea...it could be something else altogether, not a lobster at all. Any suggestions? Thanks, David Pearl, Ann Arbor MI
<It's always hard to ID something without seeing it for oneself. I recommend that you check our or purchase a good ID book. If you are a frequent diver in the Caribbean, this book and its companion volumes will be very useful to you:
Reef Creature Identification: Florida, Caribbean, Bahamas.
I hope you find it here. There are many other guides available if you search Amazon. Good luck, Steve Allen.>
Could use your help ID'ing this photo gallery <TWA invert's>
Hi Bob,
<Chris>
My name is Chris Shea,
I want to thank you for your site, it's really expanding my horizons on the
knowledge of Marine life! I just found you a few weeks ago looking up Blue
Faced Angels.. I had NO idea they morphed like they do, and also what varieties
these similar looking juv's can morph into... Amazing...
Ok, Let me first introduce myself and give you a bit of background on my SW
experiences:
<Okay>
After a 8 years of running a nano, (unsuccessfully at times) and watching my
beautiful little creatures I would buy and stock my little tank with, slowly die
off and stress out...( I remember buying stuff and thinking to myself as I
looked at whatever I was about to buy..."are you ready to come home and DIE WITH
me!" How pathetic.. oh well just being transparent...
<Honesty, the truth is so>
I vowed two years ago (before I started my recent larger tank) that I would
learn all I could to be responsible to the life forms that I purchased at the
LFS. I swore that I would NOT be ignorant any longer and my ignorance would NOT
be the CAUSE of my animals DEATH . I decided I would do whatever it took to
learn about how to keep this stuff not only ALIVE but Happy. I got hooked up
with RC and started reading and reading and reading.. The first few major
changes I made was getting rid of the canister filter and going with more LR and
adding a good skimmer. and live sand. Canisters aren't bad if you maintain them,
but most don't and these become nitrate factories...Next was learning about
testing and water quality.
I now build most of my own equipment in my shop: Poseidon2 Vortex Skimmers,
CJStandpipes, and now am getting into retail sumps. ( I built my own 30 gallon
sump for my 60gal)
All this can be seen on my main site if you want to take a gander..
http://www.nautilusreef.com/
<Yes. Very nice>
Of course I realize there are many lessons that will still need to be learned
(most recently adding Two Little Fishies epoxy to mount my frags not a good
thing! Arggghhhh) the hard way. Doing so added two days of MB misery to my tank.
I'm now going with acrylic dowels and drilling the LR. No more epoxy for me.
BTW how can they say this stuff is "Safe"?
<Mmm... got me... there are quite a few "scam" products out and about in our
interest>
Smells like hell and I'm sure it leaches out after curing? Not to mention
driving protein skimmers into a frenzy. (makes you wonder why) Buyer beware.
The FDA told us VIOXX was "safe" and I remember pictures from the 60s where they
were fogging school children with DDT to prove how "safe" it was.
<And until several years back, spraying folks on their way north of the Mexican
border with same, sigh...>
If I'm not mistaken this was done, in all places my hometown of CLEVE OH. anyway
I'm digressing. Let me move on to my questions..
Ok now on to the topic at hand:
I'm pretty sure you are already aware of Tampa Bay Saltwater, and the products
they sell. Really astonishing what life comes with this Rock!
Anyway after ordering a "package" for my 60gal reef tank, I realized there was
no good resource or photo index page available on his site, to first of all
basically ID the life and not least of all, to do research on the life forms
that are on this rock along with the cool unusual hitchhikers that can also be
found along with it.
Because of this I have been in contact with Richard the owner at TBS about doing
some form of ID photo index page for his Live Rock and "package" for the web, so
that newbies like myself, can learn what this stuff is, and how to keep it alive
and happy in our tanks.
We need your help with titles and indexing of some of these photographs in my
gallery. I started a photo gallery for TBS (Tampa Bay Saltwater) Live Rock
Aquaculterers sp. (is this even a word? hahah)
<Is now>
What I have done is start a numbered index photo gallery with some descriptions
below. I'm sure I have got PLENTY of mistakes in naming and in the descriptions
alone. but I did what I could with my limited knowledge since not too many
others chimed in on the details..
What I would like for you to do, if at ALL possible is help me ID the UNKNOWN
ones and also correct and add to anything you see in the gallery. I would
really like to add the proper names i.e. Latin names to some of the photo's
titles to make it really nice. Maybe you could do a quick text file for me
with names and descriptions matching the photo numbers? Whatever you can do
would be most appreciated. There are pictures coming in that I have NO clue what
they are, and I'm not sure many on the Earth know either. :)
<Mmmm>
Here is the index page for TBS Index, please peruse it at your leisure and feel
free to correct, add, subtract anything you see here. I will deal with my
multiple typos later :)
http://www.nautilusreef.com/html/tbs_photo_gallery_index.html
TIA for and all HELP!
Chris Shea
<Chris... better for you... if you have access to the larger file sizes... to do
these identifications. Most all I can make out are pictured in Paul Humann and
Ned DeLoach's works... Do you own these for the tropical West Atlantic? Look
them up... on Amazon.com et al. and order a set. Bob Fenner>
Re: Could use your help ID'ing this photo gallery
thanks for the reply, as far as the sizes of the pictures I'm assuming you
clicked on the thumbnails to open them into larger shots? Do you think they
should be larger for ID purposes? I think you can see them pretty good as
is? no? :)
<Nope... the stony corals... there are only sixty some species there... are hard
for me to make out to even family at the available resolution>
Ill check out that reference you mentioned on Amazon.com thanks for that
tip!
<You should have Humann and DeLoach's books in your reference library... for
sure>
Oh and just to give you a little update on that epoxy situation, I went to
my LFS and noticed he had TLF (two little fishies) epoxy and I related my
horror story to him, he looked puzzled because he had just used some a few
weeks ago in a picky clients tank, with no problems. I asked to see his
tubes of epoxy and low and behold they were different color on the inside,
his were red and orange while mine was grey and black like typical LHS
epoxy. I wonder if TLF changed the epoxy after complaints?
<Likely so... they don't "make it">
I'm going to
contact them since I have purchased goods from them direct in the past and
get some clarification just for giggles..
<A good idea>
I'm told Aquamend from HD works well is cheap,
<This is so>
but I'm still leaning toward
doweling my stuff.
thanks Bob
Chris
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Juvenile eel ID
Hi,
I work as a dive instructor in Little Cayman, Cayman Islands. I recently found a small (1 inch max) black eel with yellow dashes down its body and a yellow T - shaped marking on its head. Any idea what it might be?
Thanks.
<Wow, that's small... might be a blenny actually... or if a true eel a Gymnothorax saxicola, Echidna catenata... You might go to Paul Humann, Ned
DeLoach's works on marine life of the area (see Amazon.com re), or fishbase.org under a search for Muraenids, Blennies of the region... see the search by locality, sort by family... Bob Fenner>
FL Keys good snorkeling?
Hello Bob, my fiancé and I started in this hobby by reading your well known
book, T.C.M.A. around a year ago.
<Ahh, have you ever noticed the similarity between the words fiancé and finance!
Heee!>
This summer we visited the Dominican Republic (La Romana) and could not resist
going snorkeling. Wow, I am so glad we did. We were amazed at the variety of
angels, butterflies, puffers and even an amazing school of Atlantic blue tangs
(see below). We now hope to go somewhere new once a year to snorkel or possibly
learn to dive.
<Sounds great!>
Early in January we are flying to Ft. Lauderdale and driving to Key West for 4
nights to relax, enjoy sunsets, hopefully snorkel and see dolphins. My question
is, do you recommend any specific places for snorkeling (probably not ready to
dive just yet) along the Keys? For example, I am wondering if John Pennycamp
state park Key Largo is worth a stop for a night, and are there other good
spots? Thank you and take good care.
<Pennekamp is VERY worthwhile... as are a few of the Keys (islands) along the
way... the further you get toward Key West though, generally the worse the water
clarity is... need for a boat ride increases>
P.S. We did find your recommended spots in the Caribbean - Bonaire, the Caymans
and Cozumel. We hope to explore them. I would assume these apply to snorkelers
also?
Stephan & Lara
<Yes my friends. A multiple of lifetimes of pleasure, learning and
self-discovery await you. Bob Fenner>
What's under that big blue carpet?
Hello Bob and Crew. Hope this finds you all well. I was wondering if you
could recommend some good diving spots in the western Caribbean.
<I'll try>
I'll be
fortunate enough to travel there this December and would like to do as
much under-sea observation as possible - in Cozumel and Belize,
specifically. I've never been before and from what I've seen on your
site it seems like the crew has visited every reef on the planet, so I
thought I'd ask the experts. I have one free day in each locale -
<One day?!>
how
could I best spend them? I'm fully certified and promise I won't touch a
thing. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks. - Dekon
<Scuba may be hard to arrange (use the Net!) for such a short while... and you
are likely aware of the admonition re diving one day and flying the next... for
Cozumel, contact Paradise Divers (one of the larger services there) and try to
go as far south as possible, paying an extra fee for a "fast boat" if necessary,
doing three tank dives if available... For Belize... where will you be? About
half the folks visiting there haul immediately to Ambergris Key/Caye... to the
principal town in the south, San Pedro... For one day go out to the Hol Chan
preserve with whatever dive service seems reasonable... if you're staying on the
mainland, where? You will want to secure a place with a service that will haul
you out to their barrier reef or to a convenient/close Caye... like Caulker,
Tenerife, Laughing Bird... Bob Fenner>
What's wrong with my Atlantic Blue Tang?
Hi. Never got a reply.
<Mmm, don't recall seeing this...>
The spots cycled over 72 hrs, appearing, fading,
gone,
reappearing, and came back larger each time. Yesterday was between the
size
of
a pea and a grape. Fish dead this morning.
<Not good...>
The protrusions were just above the fin joints as the pic I attached
before
showed.
Any ideas?
Thanks
<Need more background info... is there anything that has lived in this
system? How long has it been up? Gear? Chemical, physical tests? Any
better/closer-up pix? Bob Fenner> |
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Re: What's wrong with my Atlantic Blue Tang?
Ok, here goes. It is a 75G reef with 20G sump. Mix
of SPS and softies. 2 clams. 3 blue Chromis, 1 royal
Gramma, 1 Atlantic pygmy angel, and the ex-blue tang.
Large cleanup crew.
Tank is several years old, I acquired it June 03.
Euro-Reef ES5-2 skimmer, Phosban Reactor, Mag7 return
and a Gemini Pump for a total of 1700GPH flow.
Temp 79-81, pH 8.1, Ca 440 (though after a water
change with Oceanic salt this does bump to 550+),
<Too high... if you're supplementing for this additionally, I would
stop>
dKH
10.8, nitrates at trace levels, all others zero (ammo,
nitrite, phosphate, etc). All Salifert tests.
Those pics were the best I can get I'm feared.
Thanks Bob.
Joel
<Mmm, I really do like A. coeruleus as an aquarium specimen, but a bunch
do end up with these "anomalous" skin breaks... I suspect they're
largely resultant from net damage, rough handling, poor water quality
issues enroute from capture to retail... And given the input you provide
above, it very much looks like your system is okay, your other livestock
pointing up the small likelihood of environmental trouble, infectious or
parasitic disease. You might try dipping/medicating the specimen, even
directly applying an antimicrobial (with a daub like a Q-tip) onto the
site... otherwise I'd keep up good water quality, vitamin-enhanced
feeding and hope for the best. Bob Fenner> |
Atlantic Jewel (damsel) and water temperature.
Very nice web site. I'll return often, I'm sure.
<Appreciate your company>
I have a 58 gallon tank with 40 lbs live rock, several snails, hermits, shrimp,
a pick tipped anemone, large feather duster and a coral. The tank has been set
up for about 6 months now. I change 4 - 5 gal every two weeks.
Live stock:
5 Blue-Green Chromis
1 Blue Damsel
1 Domino Damsel
1 Clown fish
1 bi color Dottyback
1 yellow tang
1 coral beauty dwarf angel
and just added an
Atlantic Jewel Damsel.
My local fish dealer didn't say anything about water temp, but your web site
suggests that the Atlantic Jewel likes 'cooler' water.
My tank varies daily between 78.3, before lights come on, up to 79.4 during the
evening. Is this going to be a problem for the Atlantic Jewel?
Thank you for your time.
Joe Ellis
<Not a problem... this is well within tolerable range, variation. Bob Fenner>
Helfrichi Firefish 10/28/04
I plan on keeping a biotopic setup with Nemateleotris
helfrichi.
<outstanding... one of my fav fishes. I have kept more than a few for years. Hardy
with the right (peaceful) tankmates>
My tank is 800 l (200 gal) and will have 4 in line refugia of 200 l (50 g) each.
my question is what fish and invertebrate live in the same niche and occur in
the same geographical regions and will
peacefully co-exist with the dartfish? Thanks Huig
<this is very exciting to hear you interested and willing to do the research
and set up a proper tank for this/any animal. My advice to start you on your
journey is to go to fishbase.org... see the geographic distribution of the
species (and so many more links on the species splash page with info on diet, reproduction,
etc)... then carry that info to the library for field guides. Better still...
check out the outstanding regional/field and dive books at seachallengers.com
for some outstanding additions to your library. A good field guide will tell you
much about history, niches and possible tankmates. Anthony>
Question about Creole Wrasse Clepticus parrae
Dear Bob,
<Jake>
I recently read your online article about Labridae wrasse family. In it you
briefly mention the Creole Wrasse. I have seen these many times in the wild and
think they are a beautiful and interesting fish.
<Yes, and only infrequently seen in captivity... I've noticed them only a
handful of times in public aquariums and the trade>
Especially due to their schooling behavior. A friend of mine has a 400G reef
and we have been trying to get our hands on a school of these guys for his
tank. In my observations diving the males seldom reach 1 ft and most are around
8 inches with the females significantly smaller (~5 inches or so and much less
full bodied).
<Our observations agree>
All my observations of them are from reefs in the Turks and Caicos Island
chain. In your article a brief paragraph is devoted to the Creole wrasse that
accompanies its picture. In the paragraph you state that it "(mis)enters" the
trade and that most pass away in shipping. I get the feeling that you feel that
these are ill suited for aquarium life. Have you had any first hand experience
with these fish?
<No first hand... and to be clear, it is not that the species is ill-suited, but
rather the current practices in handling and shipping it are inappropriate>
I have found few people that have kept them, but those I have contacted say they
are large for the average reef but that they are hardy and eat almost any
prepared food. One person contacted had kept them in a 300g tank and said they
formed a polarized tight school in captivity and were wonderful to watch.
<Neat>
Considering the size of the tank (400G) that these are meant for and the much
smaller size of the females would you think that these might be a good choice
for a unique schooling fish in this large tank?
<Yes, particularly if you can either go collect them yourself, or convince a
diver/collector (there are some that deal, sell direct to the public) to pack
them... and this is very different than virtually all marines... in one large
double-bag per box, placing more than one individual (number will vary depending
on size) together>
Possibly one male with 6 or so females?
<Sounds good>
I have a contact at a local pet shop who was looking for these for me and has
acquired a couple of 2.5 inch juveniles direct from a diver in the Caribbean he
purchases from.
<Perfect>
They seem to be in remarkable health, very active and alert. I and my friend
were planning on picking them up tonight and acclimating them to his sparsely
populated reef and acquiring 4 more juveniles and a "Super male" for his tank as
my contact is able to acquire them. Have you had any experience with these or
know of any experiences with these that might be helpful to our keeping this
fish or possibly knowledge that might discourage their purchase?
<It has been many years since I dive-collected in the tropical West Atlantic and
had first hand contact with folks in the trade there (John Noyes, Dave Vatter...),
but there are many fine people in the industry you might try contacting re
information. Forrest Young (Dynasty Marine), the folks at ORA... through the
Net>
Thanks you very much for any info you might be able to provide
Regards
Jacob Maki
<Sounds like a very interesting project. Do report back your experiences,
please. Bob Fenner>
Thanks so much for the response. I will let you know how things proceed.
Kind Regards
Jake
<Thank you. Bob Fenner>
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<Hi Cheri>
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<Thank you for sending this along. Will post on our root web (WetWebMedia). Bob
Fenner>
Atlantic corals ID 2/17/04
Hi, Bob or whoever answers now.
<Anthony Calfo in your service>
Thank You very much for Your I.D. of the
anemone. I also received some rock fragments with live corals on them.
Could
You i.d. them for me. They were collected on the same Cayo in shallow
water, 3' here in the Caribbean. There are 3 corals. The finger coral in
the front, the yellow cone like coral in the middle and the light brown
one far in the back on a rock that has 2 more on them. My photos are not
so good, that's why I send You several of the same corals for better id.
Sorry to rob you of your valuable time.
<no worries... its an easy ID too: looking at the last photo (file name
MVC-002S), the finger coral is a hydrocoral - the dreaded Millepora Fire
Coral... the yellow stony is "Mustard Hill" Porites (astreoides)...
and the brown coral looks like it may simply be encrusting Porites porites
(may branch to fingers in time)>
Do You have a web site with Corals from the West Atlantic?
<Hmm... I'm not aware of a dedicated web site as such, but there is an
excellent book series for you of Atlantic corals, fishes and invertebrates
by Paul Humann and Ned DeLoach. Look them up on Amazon.com. "Reef
Corals" in this case>
Thank You very much and Saludos Bernd
P.s. Should any of You ever come to this corner of the world, Honduras,
Bay
Islands, You have to visit me and try some of my home made
"moonshine"
called Mangowitz. Distilled only from Mangos. The only in the world.
(Don't
tell the authorities!)
<ahhh... that sounds fantastic. Was thinking of a trip to Belize in the
next year... perhaps a steal away to Honduras is in order! kindly,
Anthony> |
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New Tank in Honduras, A Short Adieu..
>Hi, Marina and crew.
>>Hola. Como estas, Bernd? Soy bien (mas o menos).
;)
>Thank You very much for Your advise.
>>De nada, mi amigo.
>We will heed it. Once we have started adding fish, I will keep You informed
of our progress.
Thanks again, Saludos from the wet (rainy) tropics, Bernd
>>Please do, so few people get to set up a tank of this size, let alone
with certain acquisitions so difficult. Marina
New diver in Roatan
hi bob,
<Robin>
hope you have had some nice dives lately. we are interested in taking
a
virgin diving trip to Roatan. never dived b4. we are
looking at going the 2nd
week of April. what do you think about the sea lice?
<Not much... that is, these bothersome isopods are rarely encountered by
divers anywhere>
will it be a problem?
<Very, very unlikely>
are there any other potential hazards or problems that our travel agents might
not disclose that you might be aware of that you could share with us?
<Yes... the most "dangerous" organism one will encounter is
oneself... gain familiarity, confidence in your gear, yourself... next is your
dive-buddy... know who this person is and learn to trust your predictability re
them... Other than humans, really the only animals to look out for there are sea
urchins... those dang spiny pincushions will poke you unmercifully if you touch
them... Oh, and the many types of hydrozoans (the fawn-colored fire coral and
little "Christmas tree" like forms of life, esp. on ropes underwater
(that dive masters will ask you to hold on to)... wear thin gloves if you're
concerned and otherwise don't "touch anything" and you will be fine.
It's far more dangerous out of the water than in...>
if you
think this is not a good first diving vacation choice, then where
would you
send us? and lastly, is there anything we should make sure we take
with us?
<Roatan, Honduras is a very nice area... nice folks, good accommodations and
food, not too distant or expensive... only a seasonal concern with hurricanes
(at times). Do take a read through this travel checklist: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/travelchklists.htm
Adapt, adopt it to your use>
many thanks for helping us out,
Robin
<Bon voyage my friend. Bob Fenner>
Tank-raised marine livestock query
Hi All,
I have a 75 gallon reef tank in a Caribbean biotope. Live sand and LR
from TBS. I have two tank raised Neon Gobies and a tank raised Royal
Gramma. I've been looking for one more fish to put in this tank. As I
prefer tank raised fish, I'm at a lost as to which fishes may be compatible in
this arrangement.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated, Mike
<Mmm, well your current choices are limited to non-tropical West Atlantic
species... a good number of the Clownfishes, Dottybacks, a couple of marine
angels... There are some cultured invertebrates to consider, including the
Caribbean Lysmata wurdemanni... Bob Fenner>
Dive locations
hi bob,
<Howdy>
my family has decided to go snorkeling/scuba diving the first week of march
2004 (instead of snowskiing!) we have never been except
for the snorkeling we
did this summer. we live in SC. in your opinion,
where would be some great
places to go that are on this side of the country?
<The best areas along the coast have got to be in the State of Florida... can
you and your family make it on down to the Keys? This is likely where I'd go...
if not the Bahamas... or even further south. Are you all certified already? If
not, look into "resort certification" at many places in the tropical
West Atlantic that offer this... If it fits the budget, the all-inclusive family
resorts (like Beaches) can be a great time>
and certainly, we would
travel outside of the US border.
many thanks,
Robin
<A new world awaits you. Bob Fenner>
Re: dive locations
thanks for the info. we are planning to get certified here in
town b4 we go.
yes, we would definitely be interested in the islands. we've been to
the
Bahamas. would like to go somewhere else. are most all of
the islands going to
give us great snorkeling? and what kinds of fish should we expect to
see?
thanks
Robin
<Lots of possibilities, and many qualifying questions to ask back to you...
Do you folks like archaeology as well? Have you been to Cozumel? There are some
good deals to be had there now (we've just returned from a dive industry
tradeshow in Miami, and many folks were advertising such)... or other
attractions (hiking, touristing...) above water? How much time do you have to be
on this holiday? Have you been to many other places in the Caribbean? Bonaire,
the Caymans and Cozumel have the best visibility in all the TWA (IMO of course),
but there are many other activities and sights to consider. Bob Fenner>
Re: dive locations
thanks Bob,
<Robin>
we will definitely start investigating these places. we are going to
be on
vacation for a week. do you have any websites for the aforementioned
places?
<Many... but Google and other search engines, directories are a better use of
your time... make a "folder" in your favorites to organize the sites
you find, share with your crew... Wishing you a bon voyage, Bob Fenner>
thanks a bunch!
Robin
Belize
Dear Mr. Fenner,
I hope that this gets
through to you withy this address.
<Yes. Hello>
I am a Canadian who has
been involved in importing and
distributing marine fish and organisms for many years in a relatively
small way. I have also done some collecting in the Caribbean, again in a
small way, usually while visiting with a supplier.
<A way I like to spend time, get to know folks as well>
As I near retirement age, I have an interest
in doing more
collecting on a small commercial basis and export to several regular
customers. I have been looking at Belize as an
option, and through
gleanings from WetWebMedia, understand that you have been involved in the
Belize scene in the past. I would appreciate any comments or suggestions
that you may have with regards to the current and future situation, and
your opinion on the feasibility of involving myself in a small way.
<It's been a few years since my last visit there, but I do hope/trust Mr.
Harry Reeves is still about and at the collection/export of marine livestock
still. Do inquire of him if/when contacting fisheries folks there re the
possibility of joining the trade. Five years back or so there were only three
license holders involved in ornamental aquatics... and not that much at that...
with a HUGE resource (second largest barrier reef on this planet)... and MUCH
good work done by Canadians there... roads, land surveyed, a good deal of
"snow bird" population...>
I understand that there is at
least one organization operating
there and am told that there are many restrictions regarding quotas,
permits etc. and I am sure that there are logistical problems as well .
<We visited with the fisheries/resource management agencies in Belize City re
these issues... not insurmountable>
I would welcome any input that you may
have, and look foreword to
your response. Keep up the good work that you and the crew are doing.
Respectfully,
Grant
Armstrong
<Really, not just best, but only way of making progress on information,
permits... and gaining insight as to whether you're going to like living there
(a very nice, civilized place except for the old capital and San Pedro on
Ambergris IMO) is to go there, stay a few weeks. Bob Fenner>
Sea & Learn on Saba
Hello from Saba, a 5-square mile island in the Caribbean. My name
is Lynn Costenaro and I am an owner of Sea Saba Dive Center. We are
hosting "Sea & Learn on Saba", a month long celebration of nature.
<Sounds very nice>
We have invited guest lecturers: academics, naturalists and scientists from
around the world to give presentations and follow-up field work on nature--from
orchids and rainforests to seahorses and sharks. We are specifically
looking for a frogfish expert and found your website: wetwebmedia.com From
the site I'm not certain if you, Bob, are a Frogfish "expert",
enthusiastic aquarist or have some scientific background...
<Mmm, a bit of the aquarist, diver/photographer (I produce content in the
aquarium, diving and underwater natural history markets)>
but let me explain that the persons we invite do not have to be 'the foremost
expert in their field'....if you can give me a better idea of your expertise, I
will greatly appreciate it.
<For frogfishes, family Antennariidae, I can't think of anyone more
well-versed and experienced than Scott Michael. See from the attachment below,
you're aware of him. Does he have time, interest?>
I thank you in advance for your time and consideration--best regards from Saba,
<Okay. A very nice offer... but this slot only on Caribbean lophiiform
fishes? Have not been to Saba (yet!), but have been to dozens of tropical West
Atlantic sites, dived there a few thousand times... and not seen many Anglers...
Can make said presentation (out last week of Oct. to the Marquesas though). Will
ask Scott re (as he is best choice IMO) and otherwise re-contact you. Thank you
for your consideration. Bob Fenner, WetWebMedia>
Lynn & John and the Team of
Sea Saba Dive Center
www.seasaba.com
DIVE THE SEA SABA DIFFERENCE
SeaSaba@aol.com
PO Box 598; Windwardside
Saba, Netherlands Antilles
599-416-2246--Phone
599-416-2362--Fax
Saba, Anglerfish, Presentation?
Hi Bob. Many thanks---sorry I missed your messages the first
time. Yes, we
know of Scott Michael. John is a "member" of his 'on line
club' and a frogfish
fanatic as well. Scott can't make it until next year's Sea &
Learn event.
<I see>
Not sure what you mean when you write: "... fishes? Have not been to Saba
(yet!), but have been to dozens of tropical West
> Atlantic sites, dived there a few thousand times... and not seen many
Anglers...
> Can make said presentation (out last week of Oct. to the Marquesas
though)."
> Will ask Scott re (as he is best choice IMO) and otherwise re-contact
you."
perhaps if frogfish are not your most comfortable area there's another area
you can give a presentation on?
<Several. Have given presentations on many aspects of underwater natural
history, species groups of marine organisms of the area. The TWA (tropical West
Atlantic) is a principal part of the dive/adventure travel industry as well as a
large section of one of my books (The Fishwatcher's Guides...)>
Let me know--our platform is quite
vague--basically anything having to do with nature in our tropical environment.
Cheers,
<Will chat with you soon re. What sort of offer can you make to bringing
along ones significant other for stay, diving? Bob Fenner>
Lynn Costenaro
Sea Saba Dive Center
<A HREF="www.seasaba.com">www.seasaba.com</A>
DIVE THE SEA SABA DIFFERENCE
SeaSaba@aol.com
Saba, Presentation
> species groups of marine organisms of the area. The TWA (tropical West
> Atlantic) is a principal part of the dive/adventure travel industry
Ok, Bob! Let's take this to a next step. I am attaching
our Official Invitation that I sent to Scott Michael.
<Yes. You sent this along with the first notice. Have it, printed out>
I just need a clearer understanding of the presentation--do you mean along the
lines of fish identification?
<If you'd like, yes... or just one group (e.g. Algae, all Invertebrate groups
in the area, sharks and rays... or even topics on "how to" issues like
underwater photography...>
Have a look at our offer (basically you would need to cover airfare and a few
meals, we comp hotel, diving and 3 dinners for a 7 night stay for both you and
your
significant other. BUT, you would need to avoid the last week of
October as we're about full with divers and experts and I'm not sure I'd be able
to get you on our boat.
<No worries. We are scheduled to be in the Marquesas the last week of Oct.,
first of Nov., so have to leave a few days ahead of this time>
Ideally, first week of October because I'd love to see your presentation and we
go to DEMA Oct 6 and don't return until the 24th....Let's talk
more. Thanks! Lynn
<Intending to be at the (Miami) DEMA show as well (did I see you last Nov. in
Vegas?). Will respond firmly one way or the other by early next week.
Again, thank you for the offer. Bob Fenner, WetWebMedia>
Saba, Presentation
by the way...if you want to come and it can all work out, I'll need a photo
(preferably a shot done "in the field"), a one paragraph bio and
dates--for the website--once you have a l look at the other bios we did I think
you'll understand--easy! Lynn
<Okay. Bob F>
Re: Saba, Presentation
> presentation--do you mean along the lines of fish identification?
> <If you'd like, yes... or just one group (e.g. Algae, all Invertebrate
> groups in the area, sharks and rays... or even topics on "how to"
issues like
> underwater photography...>
> Have a
--great news, Bob. We have two shark experts in the plan already (can
there
ever be too many as we expect this always to be a big attraction...although I
think algae and its importance in the balance of the reef is interesting
perhaps invertebrates may be more so??? BUT, if you already have both
presentations prepared from a previous exercise, we'd love to have both! That
way, just
more we can offer. let me know and look forward to hearing back from you on
this. Hopefully, you've looked at our website or other sources and
see this as a
nice getaway for you and your other half and a means of having a good time at
a much reduced price and not so much input required from you. Again,
thanks.
Lynn
<Will get back with you soon re plans. Bob Fenner>
Re October possibilities at Saba
Lynn, am having to pass on your generous offer. The DEMA show in Miami and a
visit thereafter in S. Florida is crowding our trip later Oct. to the Marquesas.
Would appreciate the chance/opportunity to present talks to your clientele in
future, so do please keep my name on file.
Bob Fenner, WetWebMedia
Re October possibilities at Saba
Hi Bob. I appreciate your reply. By all means, consider
October 2004 as an
open invitation. Please stop by our booth at DEMA so we can meet in
person
and talk about any future plans.
Cheers!
<Will hope to see you in Miami and beyond. Bob Fenner>
Lynn & John and the Team of
Sea Saba Dive Center
<A HREF="www.seasaba.com">www.seasaba.com</A>
DIVE THE SEA SABA DIFFERENCE
SeaSaba@aol.com
PO Box 598; Windwardside
Saba, Netherlands Antilles
599-416-2246--Phone
599-416-2362--Fax
Caribbean display
>OK guys,
>>And gals, hello.
>>I went through the list of google searches, and couldn't find an answer
for my question so I had to write. I'll be brief.
I believe I have made up my mind to keep a Caribbean Biotope in a 125. Here
are the species, and the approximate amounts- please keep in mind this is a work
in progress-
>>Aren't they all? ;)
French or Queen Angel
Royal Grammas- (3 to 6) -Tullock outlines a Caribbean tank with 6 grammas
Yellow headed Jawfish- 3
Chalk bass- 3
Blue Chromis-3
Peppermint bass-1
Cuban hog-1
Cherub angel-1
Flameback angel-1
Caribbean blue tang-1
Blue hamlet?- would he try to eat any of the smaller fish?
Caribbean hawk- Ditto for him?
>Let me know if you see any potential problems- I know that the Queen or
French will most likely out-grow the tank and need larger quarters- not a
problem, justification for a new tank!
>>At the moment my concern is the mixing of angels, potential for trouble
there in a tank that is not much, much larger. Also, with *any* fish
the rule is: if it can fit someone in its mouth IT WILL. Please be
aware.
>If you have any other Caribbean species I would appreciate it.
Lastly, I have a wet dry and skimmer ready to go. My thoughts are to
pull the bioballs, and go the live rock and sand route- better for this mix of
fishes?
>>Better for *any* mix of fishes. If you can set up a deep sand
bed and refugium, you'll be far better able to control nitrates in this manner. With
a wet/dry, you will not be able to culture any denitrifying bacteria.
>Sorry, one more last question. I am struggling with the idea of
125lbs of LR. Is it feasible to seed other rocks with live and have
them function?
>>Possible, yes. Try looking for cultured rock, eh?
>By the way, where can I find dry rock? The cheapest I can find is
$1.99/lb. I can get fully cured base rock for that. Would
a landscape store offer an alternative?
>Masonry supply, but one *really* needs to know their stuff, mineral/chemical
composition of rock is problematic in a tank, especially a saltwater tank.
>And how does |
