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LFS article, cons. stores, eval.
6/24/08
Hi, Bob!
<Laurie>
Would there be any issues with writing an article about things to look for/be
aware of as a conscientious buyer at a local or online fish store?
<No... tis an excellent idea, topic>
Some of the points would be the following things I tend to look for: *No dead or
dying fish or corals left in the tanks with healthy corals *No opportunistic
algae on coral frags being sold to hobbyists- ie Valonia, Bryopsis, Cyano, etc
*Performs water changes and tests own water regularly *Separate sump systems for
at least a hospital tank from the reef tanks *Inappropriate fish or corals not
taken care of properly- ie, mandarins in small tanks with out LR, or sun corals
starving from not being target fed/ left in unshaded light and not enough
flow... Especially in multiples at the same time... *Openmindedness with reefing
styles (For every successful DSB reefer, there is also a beautiful BB tank or
SSB)
<Great!>
*Able to learn from reefers who patronize as well as teach new hobbyists with
patience *Respectful of others and courteous/polite *Clean store *Is upfront
about coral sources when asked (Aquacultured versus wild caught, and if
wild caught were chemicals used to catch the fish?) *Do they charge every reefer
the same price for a coral? *Supports local reefing clubs *Will not sell out of
a hospital tank *Will not pass off dying or dyed fish to consumers *Corals for
sale that will hurt each other are not placed next to each other in a tank- such
as a soft coral fallen over on an SPS, or another coral within sweeper distance
of another coral *Guarantees their live stock with a tank water sample from the
hobbyist's tank *Will let you test, or will let you see them test their store
tank water *Does not cherry pick the best corals into a display tank that is not
for sale. (This is my pet peeve- why should I buy all the stuff you didn't think
was good enough for your display tank??? I'd rather just buy rare corals online
at that point imo)
Laurie
<Good points... I would expand/explain each, give examples... and very
importantly, try to take pix of what you are trying to show... I will gladly
help you sell this piece into the pulp, and then the electronic pet-fish
magazines. Bob Fenner>
LFS article, Sara's input 06/23/08
Hi, Bob!
<Hi, I'm Sara, not Bob. If you'll excuse me, I just wanted to comment a bit here
too...>
Would there be any issues with writing an article about things to look for/be
aware of as a conscientious buyer at a local or online fish store? Some of the
points would be the following things I tend to look for:*No dead or dying fish
or corals left in the tanks with healthy corals*No opportunistic algae on coral
frags being sold to hobbyists- ie Valonia, Bryopsis, Cyano, etc*Performs water
changes and tests own water regularly*Separate sump systems for at least a
hospital tank from the reef tanks*Inappropriate fish or corals not taken care of
properly- ie, mandarins in small tanks with out LR, or sun corals starving from
not being target fed/ left in unshaded light and not enough flow... Especially
in multiples at the same time...*Openmindedness with reefing styles (For every
successful DSB reefer, there is also a beautiful BB tank or SSB)*Able to learn
from reefers who patronize as well as teach new hobbyists with
patience*Respectful of others and courteous/polite*Clean store*Is upfront about
coral sources when asked (Aquacultured versus wild caught, and if wild caught
were chemicals used to catch the fish?)*Do they charge every reefer the same
price for a coral?*Supports local reefing clubs*Will not sell out of a hospital
tank*Will not pass off dying or dyed fish to consumers*Corals for sale that will
hurt each other are not placed next to each other in a tank- such as a soft
coral fallen over on an SPS, or another coral within sweeper distance of another
coral*Guarantees their live stock with a tank water sample from the hobbyist's
tank*Will let you test, or will let you see them test their store tank
water*Does not cherry pick the best corals into a display tank that is not for
sale. (This is my pet peeve- why should I buy all the stuff you didn't think was
good enough for your display tank??? I'd rather just buy rare corals online at
that point imo)
Laurie
<Interesting... it would be nice if stores achieved more of these goals/points
(and I imagine they often do try to, actually). But currently, have you ever
found a store which consistently satisfies all these points? I never have. Even
my favorite stores will still sell carnation corals (and other animals
inappropriate for aquariums), or occasionally get algae problems, or give
regular customers a price break on a coral or fish from time to time. Ordering
livestock from the internet is not much of a solution (imo). For one thing, if
you think the walk-in stores look bad, how do you envision a facility that
doesn't have to present itself to the public? How do you know they aren't even
worse?
I think the way to help your LFSs (just my opinion here) is 1) spend money at
them, 2)be encouraging, point out the good things, but 3) also politely,
diplomatically, sympathetically, but consistently, offer constructive criticism
about things they could do to improve the store/care of the animals and
customers, etc. If you're patronizing their store and flattering them, they'll
tolerate some nagging (but constructive) criticism... and sometimes actually try
to change (more likely especially if you focus on one or two points and explain
to them why it will help business). At least, this has been my experience... as
a customer and as someone who's worked at one of these places. Working at a LFS
is just not as easy as you might think. It's physically and emotionally
exhausting.
Best,
Sara M.>
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Re: writing, travelogue
article 5/29/08
Bob,
I have reformatted it, from .rtf to .doc (copied and pasted which
seems to have worked, sent it to my sister to ensure images came
through).
I hope they come through this time.
Thanks again,
Forrest
<Ahh, even better with the photos. Do submit all you have and allow
the editors to sort through. Bob Fenner>
Re: writing, travelogue
article 5/29/08
Bob,
<Forrest>
I shall do so, but how do I do so?
Should I just tack the whole slew of pics to the end of the article?
In the way I addended the picture of the blue wrasse and parrot fish
? I assume I should skip and pics that came out poorly or blurry
etc. and question two, who should I submit it to?
<Yes, and to the editors themselves... If you'd like, I will help
you send along this piece... with you to follow up with what is
stated below>
Thanks, and sorry for all the questions.
Forrest
<I send along all via the Post on a CD, or if VERY large, a DVD...
with a cover letter to the editor/s saying that there are a number
of alternate images for their perusal. Bob Fenner>
Re: writing, travelogue article 05/30/08
Bob,
I would be most grateful for the assistant of helping me send along. If I
understood correctly, keep the file as is, but send along in the post: a copy of
the article, and images on a disc (type of disc determined by sizing
requirements) and a cover letter,(physically printed out).
Thank you,
Forrest
<Correct. I have sent your pc. along to Ultramarine in the UK... Let's see what
they say... and if a no-sale there, we'll send it along elsewhere. BobF>
Re: writing, travelogue article... Pix 6/1/08
OK, cool
Any specifics on "better"? The file sizes where cut way down I know, but if you
have any input on what else is wrong/substandard with them let me know.
I have about another 160 or so, some better than others. also waiting for Auto
focus is horrible after you get used to manual focusing. Oh am in contact with
Ikelite about resolving that whole situation.
Thanks Bob, and feel free to be brutal on what needs improving.
Forrest
<Mmm, the photos need to be clearer, sharper... (more in focus, lit,
better-resolved)... Take a look at the pet-fish magazines, travel 'zines... Bob
Fenner> ScottV, Aquarium Engineering
tome 4/13/08
Hello Bob,
<Scott!>
How is everything? I had to return from Costa Mesa early last Sunday morning so
I did not get the chance to see you speak.
<Rats!>
I have indeed been writing on Aquarium Engineering and some articles I hope you
will want for WWM as well (waiting for my D80 to return from Nikon, probably
should just go buy a point and shoot).
<I have two D70 bodies... and a small, pocket-size point and shoot DSLR... and
use both>
I started on the tank building chapter since it is what I am actually the most
familiar and comfortable with. I would estimate I am about 75% or so through it
and just have a few questions.
First, at this point I am assuming that all I should worry about is text?
<Mmm...>
About pictures, I have a series of pics from my ongoing construction project
(that too will hopefully be done someday) and others from the past. I have
planned on saving them for Aqua. En. since it will hopefully print and need
illustrations someday. If I use a picture out of a series in an article does it
taint the pics for use elsewhere?
<No; can be used and re-used. IF we have others produce the book for you, they
may well supply/re-shoot the graphics>
Also, is there a guideline on length I should be aware of, or it is what it is?
I am finding myself babbling on and on, constantly going back and
shortening/tidying things up.
<Best at this point to write and write... the editing part/s can/will be done
later... Often I find that in the process, there is much splitting up and
lumping done...>
Last, I have covered acrylic construction, half way through glass, do you think
I should also include plywood?
<Yes, I do... though this construction material is not as popular as once, it is
still viable... I might include it under "other const. mat.s" along with
fiberglass, PVC sheet, concrete of various types...>
I will get this first section finished hopefully this week and send along to see
what you think (along with five or so articles). Thank you for forwarding me the
customer review Friday night. That particular gentleman has been a pleasure to
work with, he actually already knew how to join PVC, hooray! As always, thank
you for your time and efforts aiding others and I along with these.
Talk soon,
Scott V.
<Great to read of your ongoing growth, success... and THANK YOU very much for
your ongoing help with others through WWM. Cheers, BobF>
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Water quality article
-04/11/08
Crew, esp. Bob,
As per our correspondence some time ago (regarding the site improvements etc.),
you had encouraged me to tackle water chemistry in an article, I
decided to break it down into one on quality and biofiltration and one on the
other aspects of water chemistry such as hardness, salinity etc.
I hope this is helpful, if there is anything that would be better changed or if
you have enough on these topics, just let me know.
Thanks,
Forrest
<Ah, it's excellent! I encourage you to either add the second part, or to expand
on what you have thus far... for length... to at least 1,400 words... with
examples of situations... and the use of gear/tools, chemical filtrants, methods
of improving and maintaining water quality. Further, I want to help you sell
this work into the pulp magazine business... and after it runs there, into the
electronic media. Bob Fenner>
Re: water quality article -
4-11-08
wow, OK, great! I will I think for the time being stick with the
"quality" issues as I feel more comfortable discussing them, will get
back to work on
the other soon though.
<Okay>
as an aside, it seems the previous article on cardinal fish will appear
in Marine Fish and Reef USA.
<Ah! Congratulations!>
Should I include pictures of gear/tools, testers, filters. I'll start
thinking about examples etc. and try to write up some more tonight.
Thanks again,
Forrest
<Yes... do so. BobF>
Re: water quality article -
4-11-08
So I have written some on the "tool box" for water quality issues. But
in terms of pictures, one quick question. I intend to take pics of
zeolite,
AmQuel, a sponge filter, a bio wheel and live rock. what should I use as
a "back drop" for the pictures?
<Something dark, low/no reflectivity...>
just the table? a sheet or towel behind?
<Like dark cloth, velvet...>
thanks. I'm not yet happy with what I wrote, need to revise and edit.
Thanks Bob,
Forrest
<Welcome! BobF>
Re: water quality article 4/19/08
Bob,
Attached is a draft which while I think is better, is not quite done yet.
Any thoughts on fixes etc. are greatly appreciated, included those relating to
the pictures.
Thank you so much again,
Forrest
<Looks very good Forrest. I would submit this on its own or with the other piece
in the series. Cheers, BobF>
Re: water quality article 4/20/08
Thanks, I will do that,
<Do make it known when you'd like help with submitting>
I am thinking of addressing pH and Hardness and how they interact and pertain to
the well being of fish. Then in a following one dissolved oxygen and how it is
used since it seems many people have trouble understanding it.
Does this sound like a good idea to you?
<Yes>
Also do you think it better to submit this first and mention it as a possible
part of a series or write up the subsequent ones then submit together?
Thanks again for the advice and encouragement,
Forrest
<I would send two together... to acquaint editor/s with your work. A pleasure to
share. BobF>
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Selling pix...
Hello,
<Hi there>
I am a member of ReefCentral.com and one of the members told me to get a hold of
you and ask how I can make money with my Reef Photos? I was told that some of
mine are very good and that magazines will snatch them up when they’re really
good. Thanks! J
Stacy Fralish
<Well...
the best approach (most sure of sale, acceptance) is to "write against them"...
that is, include your image work with articles on related subjects... And make
presentations of same together to hobby magazines, both pulp and on-line... Have
you published your writing? I will gladly help you... to edit same, advise you
on where you might send. Please do send all future correspondence to me by way
of Crew@WetWebMedia.com; I nearly deleted your mail as one of many "junk" bits I
get a day. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
| Writing for the interest... |
Re: regarding
the site/ improvements/ inputs etc. 2/23/08
OK no rush, also I guess I can field some questions as a member of the
crew, but really only some fresh and beginner saltwater questions.
<Mmmm, possibly. But likely better for you to keep compiling/writing
articles for now>
I figure once done with Cardinals going to move on to another "group"
not sure which yet.
Probably still fish but maybe something else.
<Up to you...>
On a related note, am supposed to go with the family to the Cenotes of
Mexico would be willing to write up something on that, will be in May
barring the unforeseen. May also take a trip out to Cozumel to show my
fiancé where I got dive certified, and do a dive or to there. Any
recommendations for field guides for fish
identification in the caves?
<Unfortunately I do not. Don't know if the Humann/Deloach works cover
their biota... But do make pix, keep notes, and write all up. I will
help you sell for sure. BobF>
Re: regarding the site/ improvements/ inputs etc.
OK that's what I'll keep doing then, will have to get a better camera I
guess as current one is only so so maybe give to parents when get a
better set up.
I figure at worst can always save the pix and get IDs afterwards. gonna
download those pics as soon as I finish typing here. I have finished
taking
notes from other articles I have on the subject so will get to writing,
had to work later today than expected.
Till then,
Forrest
<Ahh! I do look fwd to our chatting, re cameras, writing... perhaps
diving in some locales... B>
Re: regarding the site/ improvements/ inputs etc.
OK that's what I'll keep doing then, will have to get a better camera I
guess as current one is only so so maybe give to parents when get a
better set up.
I figure at worst can always save the pix and get IDs afterwards. gonna
download those pics as soon as I finish typing here. I have finished
taking
notes from other articles I have on the subject so will get to writing,
had to work later today than expected.
Till then,
Forrest
<There is time. B>
Re: regarding the site/
improvements/ inputs etc.
Hmmm...wonder if I can write of the camera as a business expense...
<Certainly... I write off all>
Of course now I have to worry about living up to my debut article ha ha.
<Can be done by being very productive, organized/focused...>
Look forward to further discussions, do hope these article help both
you, the crew, and the users.
<Ah, yes. Understand that there is a standard "process" to all this
activity. The work, once "done", laid-out, needs to be submitted,
serially, to print, THEN online media... after it runs it can be sold...
to other markets... takes months... to even a year or more... When/where
in doubt, keep writing, always making worthwhile images...>
Yes will need much help in the camera corner as I have little to no
experience with SLRs and am doubtful of point and shoot ability to get
what I need. any input on that one would be great,
<Posted... on WWM, many other places... see the nice short books by
Norbert Wu... some reviewed on WWM>
even best place to start looking, will reread the Photog articles in C
the journal as that about all I have on the subject.
Till then back to the grind.
<Much to investigate, try out, enjoy, become familiar with. BobF>
Re: regarding the site/ improvements/ inputs etc.
hmm I thought it attached. should be there now.
F
<Mmm, need to add the dates/months to the citations, and the proposed
layout... with re-sized graphics and captions... And then I'll help you
make the submission. BobF>
Re: regarding the site/ improvements/
inputs etc. Content... 2/24/08
OK will do, is there a "standard" means of so doing?
<Mmm, no... some Strunk and White bits... do you have the "Elements"
book series?>
I have just been typing
them up using Word, is there a better program?
<Not really>
Should I use the insert picture command?
<Is what I do>
Will expand on the reference portion, I intend to use end notes where
applicable and have found in some articles what seems to be a standard
sort of citation Sorry about not having even a slight clue about all
this stuff.
Thanks for the help on yet another topic,
Forrest
<You're learning... admirably. B>
Re: regarding the
site/ improvements/ inputs etc. 2/24/08
Do not have the "Elements" Book series to which you refer, and am
confused by "Strunk and White bits" statement.
<... see the Net re: http://www.google.com/search?q=strunk+and+white+books&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7PCTA>
Sadly now I am at work, must do actual work ugh.
<Curse of the drinking class...>
Also it seems my typing may just be getting worse, chalk that one up to
enthusiasm if you will. When using the insert picture command, and also
the
insert caption command, the caption always gives me a 1 at the end as in
if default is "figure 1" and I wish the caption to read "Male brooding
eggs" it comes up as "Male brooding eggs 1" I will play with this more
when I get home but that will not be till late as I have to put in
another 6 hours here
and do not have access to my home computer and files at the moment, ah
counting down the days till I can Telecommute.
Humbly,
Forrest
<Take your time my friend... a lifetime of fun, enjoyment,
exploration... awaits... all in good time. B>
Re: regarding the
site/ improvements/ inputs etc.... Content -02/25/08
OK will do. I believe it says how to do that on WWM.
<Mmm, best to do with whatever pic software you have on your computer...
right click, "open with"... Can download good software for free (e.g.
Picasa...), and then put/place in your article>
so I'll read up, wasn't sure if that was applicable in this instance.
Should have that hammered out after work tonight. Also after this one is
finished up, do you want me to "pen" some sort of Beginners article?
Some sort of get a test kit. "good water parameters " is not descriptive
enough we need numbers kind of thing?
<Test kits, values to shoot for in common water chemistry, physics are
great topics>
Figure my camera should be able to do ok to show some filtration stuff
and a test kite and what not. I see lots of good stuff in the "set up"
pages
but let me know if you think that would help.
Thanks for your time, and knowledge etc. am enjoying working with you on
this article
F
Oh and do you know if the 2nd ed. of CMA will be available in Hard
cover?
<I don't know... a good lesson perhaps in what little authors generally
are aware of, are informed re>
mine is paper back and getting a little beaten up, I see Hardcover first
editions but they in the $150+ range online, though I might not be
looking
in all the right places, mainly Amazon.
Well back to the grind for me.
Thanks again
<Thank you Forrest. After the first few articles, all gets much
easier... and more fun. You'll see. BobF>
Re: regarding the
site/ improvements/ inputs etc. -02/25/08
I have it down to 2.6 MB is that a good file size?
<Better>
I Appreciate the help.
I have started taking notes on Grammas but might go for a
chemistry/physics parameter type article first I don't know yet.
<Either... I'd do the chemistry...>
If that files size works I'll attach the file next email.
Thanks again,
Forrest
<Real good. B>
Re: regarding the
site/ improvements/ inputs etc. photo and content prov.
Thanks again, also I believe I figured out the thumbnail thing,
using a Gmail account with it made it pretty simple, thank goodness. OK
then the 60mm it will be whoo, this stuff is expensive but as this is
the last family trip I won't have to pay for gotta take advantage. Am
ordering the housing for the Cool pix now, literally, do hope this all
pays off in both enjoyment and financially. Learning is always good in
and of itself of course but when put to use I feel is even better. OK so
no big deal on motion that's a relief, am anything but steady even on
land.
I can't thank you enough, probably good on questions for the time being,
still wrapping it up in my head.
Be chatting in other regards though.
Can't thank you enough.
Your friend,
Forrest
Oh one other thing should I mention this to Clay? Or should I wait until
I have it written up and the Cardinal thing all hammered out first?
Thanks
<?... You should proof your email before sending... Mention what? B>
Re: regarding the
site/ improvements/ inputs etc. photo and content prov. 2/29/08
Apologies on the lack of proof reading on my part. Too much haste,
will keep in mind, this is often a bad habit, which I am working to
correct. For
clarification, Should I mention my trip and resultant writings/pictures
to Clay?
<Ahh! Yes... better to not be "too chatty", but OTOH, to do what is
reasonable to "chat up" ones works with editors>
Thanks again, Will be returning to old corrective measure of
"prewriting" my emails in Word or similar program to spell and grammar
check/ read over to make sure I am saying what I intend to say. Will
work on giving my email correspondence a better feel of professionalism
as this will now be even more important.
Your friend,
Forrest.
<Thank you Forrest. BobF>
Re: regarding the
site/ improvements/ inputs etc. Content 3/1/08
Ok I will do that. I think some of my errors/omissions etc. in the
email from last night were caused by my trying to do too much at the
same time. I
will mention it to him and ask if he has any preferred format etc. I
know FAMA recently ran an article on the caves tetras and setting up a
tank for
them and also a "Conservation Corner" article about the caves not too
long ago. What are the rules of good form in an instance such as this?
<To make submissions none the less... there is such a lag-time between
submission and publication... that what has recently been run often
doesn't matter... And there are "thematic issues" the mag.s run... with
pieces touching on similar, overlapping, even identical topics by
different writers>
Do I mention my plan, and ask if I would be stepping on any ones toes?
<Mmm, no... just your plan>
Do I from now on offer Clay a First Right of Refusal to such work?
<This is implied in making submissions... But important to re/state that
the work MUST first run in print/pulp, ahead of electronic
publication... We (you and I, WWM) will try to sell your work to the
online 'zines AFTER it has run in the pulp press>
I want to appear professional in this regard.
Thanks,
Forrest
<I want you to be so. BobF>
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Re: Your pix, interest,
Becoming a content provider in our interest 2-05-08
Bob,
<Felicia>
I can't tell you enough how much I would appreciate your help. I've never sold a
photo or an article; I've just been giving them away! I always dreamed about
being a Marine Biologist (a taxonomist, actually)
<! We are of a very small, and diminishing group here... I intended to do my
doctorate thesis... a series monograph... on Balistoids...>
and joining the ranks of those like you, Anthony, and Eric B. Unfortunately, I
live in Wisconsin, and it's taking a little longer than I had planned.
<Mmm, they are no spring chickies either... Antoine is I think going on 37,
EricB, 44... Errmmmm, I'm older still! But, as they say, no time like the
present. The world's leading ichthyologist/systematist, Jack/John Randall... is
even older than I (sorry Jack) and still a better diver and photographer... But
I'm still practicing!>
I really enjoy your website because it is so unbiased. Over the years, I did get
a bit jaded in this profession selling certain products that I know are useless.
(please don't post that on your website, my boss reads it, too!)
<Mmm, have been careful to not have you identified with any outfit>
I believe that advancing the hobby for posterity is much more important than
making a few bucks off of people's ignorance.
<Yes>
While I'm not entirely sure what a content provider in your interest is, I am
thrilled at the prospect of becoming one! Just getting my name out there in the
aquarium world would be a big help to me (and my resume). So, what comes next?
Thanks again!
<Drafts! Or ideas for articles... their sending out/selling, collecting the big
bongo bucks (right)... and collating these bits into tome length volumes. What
do you feel needs writing on, what fields would you like to delve into further?
BobF>
Aquarium Article Help
1/25/08
Hey Crew,
What's new? (sorry I could not resist)
I have seen Bob and Anthony in action at the MACNA events. You are awesome!
I own and operate an upper end custom aquarium design, project management and
service company.
<Ahhh!>
We are in our 6th year and we are growing gradually.
<This is best>
My wife and I have successfully resisted the constant temptation of opening up a
cash and carry retail outlet.
<Thank goodness... more time, trouble than it is worth. Definitely a "step in
the wrong direction" I assure you>
We have remained focused and strictly provide our services and sales for our
contacted clientèle.
<Good... if anything, the "next" direction might be distribution of selected
lines, perhaps imported... even perhaps the manufacture of certain tools,
materials... We can talk re>
Recently I have been asked to write a series of articles 600 to 800 words each
for a local magazine.
<Very good>
The magazine's primary audience is real estate and business professionals. I was
wondering if you could help me out with some topics and/or tips concerning
writing for this potential "aquarium newbie" audience.
<Certainly.>
I was considering writing about the behind the scenes meetings and the
importance of specialized proper project management along with the preparation
needed for a successful large high end aquarium installation.
Your time, experience and knowledge are greatly appreciated.
<I would start with even more general pieces such as:
http://wetwebmedia.com/AqBizSubWebIndex/ofcaqrelbiz.htm
With pix of some of your installs... NOT too self-serving>
--
Jeffrey Shane Sebern, President
Aquatic Interiors Unlimited LLC.
"South Texas' Source for Fine Custom Aquariums."
Custom Aquarium Design, Installation, Maintenance.
www.aquatic-interiors.com
<Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Question for Neale/Bob...
Article multiple submissions - 11/26/07
I have a quick question for Neale or perhaps even Bob. I had emailed before
about my first article which ran in TFH magazine regarding Cherry Shrimp, my
second article is slated to run in the Feb. 08 magazine. The subject of this
article is about the benefits of plastic plants, I feel it's an interesting
article on a common product. Anyway the reason I am writing is because I have
noticed that Neale has the same article in both the Dec. TFH magazine and
Practical Fishkeeping magazine about puffers, which by the way was a very
interesting article. My question for Neale, is there any special issues with
using the same article in these two magazines? Or does the fact that they are
published in different countries make it a non issue? Just curious as I was
thinking after seeing your articles in the different magazines that I might want
to contact Practical Fishkeeping about my articles to see if they are
interested. Is either magazine upset about the article running in the other one?
Thank you for your time and all the best to everyone.
Paul
<Hello Paul. Thanks for the kind words. As for my 'Pufferfish' article being in
both PFK and TFH simultaneously, that was definitely not my intention! Normally
I send to just one magazine. If they don't get back to me a few months after
submission, I assume they don't want it. That's what happened here. One magazine
had had the piece for about a year when they decided to run the piece. By that
time, the other had bought it from me. I have no idea if they're cross about
this. I hope not; it was a genuine accident that followed on from one editor not
telling me that my article was wanted. I don't think it's unreasonable for an
editor to assume writers will re-cycle submissions that they didn't accept. If
an editor wants something, it's up to them to tell the writer. In any case, I
don't normally submit to two magazines simultaneously and don't know whether it
is something approved of or not. I'd imagine all magazines want original
content. But such competition that exists between PFK and TFH will be very
slight. The cover price of PFK in the US is apparently very high (over $11 an
issue even with a subscription) so it's hard to imagine my pufferfish article
would have much impact on their sales either way! Anyway, I can't see any harm
at all in submitting your cherry shrimp article to PFK if you wanted to, though
you might want to tweak some of the language (British English spellings, metric
measurements, etc.). I look forward to reading your article on plastic plants. I
do hope some enterprising manufacturer will come up with a floating plant
version of hornwort suitable for putting in livebearer tanks for protecting
newborn fry from cannibalistic parents. That would be very useful! Cheers,
Neale.>
Re: Question for Neale/Bob...
PFK... 11/27/2007
Neale,
Thanks for your response. I learned the hard way about a year ago just how much
Practical Fishkeeping cost here in the states. I placed a subscription without
bothering to check into how the currency would convert to U.S. money. Man was I
surprised when I got that bill! Anyway thanks for explaining how it works, not
sure if I will pursue using the same article in a different article. I work for
Penn Plax, and I can certainly bring up your idea of floating plants. All the
best.
Paul
<Hello Paul. PFK is a nice magazine but you are right, the cover price in the US
market is very steep. It's a shame it can't be printed and distributed in the
US. Luckily, Americans have access to any number of excellent fishkeeping
magazines. So I guess it all works out in the end! Best of luck with whatever
you choose to do! Neale.>
|
Re: Family/Congener
Compatibility: Rabbits, Wrasses & Surgeons... becoming pet-fish content
producer 10/29/07
Thanks Bob! This is all good news - love it when a plan comes
together.
My omission of "Labrids" is definitely negligence in my attentiveness.
Regards, from
David A. Bell - Wishing I was in the pet fish biz instead.
<Life is indeed a series of compromises eh? Might cost you income... but
gain much different satisfaction! Cheers, BobF>
Re: Family/Congener
Compatibility: Rabbits, Wrasses & Surgeons 10/29/07
Bob, my true desire is still to write "something." I draw great
satisfaction from that regardless of compensation.
Regards, from
David A. Bell
<Mmm, what's the hold-up David? I will gladly give you free use of my
pix if this will goose you on. BobF>
Re: Family/Congener
Compatibility: Rabbits, Wrasses & Surgeons 10/29/07
Where to submit? What is the gap to be filled?
<HUGE topics, groups of organisms to be visited, re-visited... Look in
the current 'zines, print and online... What do you have as current
gaps/interests in your own experience? Fill them! I'll help you with
submissions... Get writing! BobF>
Regards, from
David A. Bell
Re: Becoming an ornamental
aquatics content provider 10/30/07
Bob,
If I prepare a list would you review for most viable topics? I have many ideas
but I want start with the most timely/applicable ones for impact.
Regards, from
David A. Bell
<Shore! BobF>
Bob,
Is it better to discuss direct? I noticed the discussion string is showing up
in Q&A.
Regards, from
David A. Bell
<Mmm, considered that this disc. would be of use to others. B>
Sure and agreed.
Regards, from
David A. Bell
<Ah, good. BobF> |
Re: Submitting an article 5/16/07
Thank you very much for your response. My article sits at just under 2500
words at the moment, is this an issue?
<Ah, no... the "bigger the better"... If too large material, coverage, can be
split up, but this subject will likely "stand on its own" here>
It is undergoing some editing so maybe this can be reduced if need be and once
it has been edited by the Mods on the puffer forum I will pass it on to you.
<Either way Stu>
As for pictures I have over 70 high quality images of my puffer and his tank,
what size is suitable for you?
<Wow! A few hundred Kbytes per... 92 dpi is fine (for Net presentation), of just
a few please. Mmm, and I'll interject here/now to ask if you've considered
selling this piece first to the print 'zines? I'll take a look and say more, but
I do encourage you thinking this over as a possibility. Best to run in the
"pulp" biz, then the e-zines... Bob Fenner>
Concerning payment I have a PayPal account so assuming you like the article I
shall let you know
Many thanks Stu Morse
Re: Submitting an article 5/16/07
Cheers Bob,
<Stu>
I have sent an email to Practical Fish Keeping and one of the mods on the puffer
forum suggested another that is in the USA but I forget it name, if you have any
info I would greatly appreciate it.
<I will gladly help you "shop this around"... Do so with friends on a regular
basis... I will attach a small email and attach your piece and graphics, cc'ing
you... and send serially to editors of the principal U.S. mag.s>
So you think I should try them first and once, I mean IF, it gets printed then
submit it to you.
<Yes my friend. The print magazines have this as a requirement of publication
generally>
Any additional info on where else I could have the article would be greatly
appreciated.
Stu
<There are numerous markets in quite a few countries... Sometimes the work needs
to be of a certain focus... i.e. more scientific, but there are hobby zines of
worth in most civilized countries/languages... Germany, Italy, France, Japan...
and many more... Best to "keep writing" as I often say... and make
serial/sequential offerings to editors as time goes by... Bob Fenner>
Remember me? I'm the guy writing a book about pufferfish - 05/16/2006
Hey,
My name is John Jansen, remember me from IMAC? I was the kid who is friends with
Jeni and Jager, and I am from the puffer forum. I was the guy writing a book
about pufferfish, I showed you a few pages from the book while I was there.
The book is coming along nicely, I've gotten quite a few nice photos to use from
nice people. :)
<I do remember you John, but don't think we ever got around to looking at your
book efforts>
I remember you saying that you might be able to get the book published for me?
<I definitely will help you, as I consider this topic/subject of necessity>
So, my question was, what exactly does the publishing process involve?
<There are a few ways to go about this... with pros/cons to each. You should
"shop this work around"... with TFH, perhaps Microcosm by itself... And take a
go at detailing what it might cost to "go it your own" with printing, promotion,
sales, fulfillment. Whatever route you go, you should retain universal rights,
ask re royalties... I encourage you NOT to sell the work outright. That is, to
hold out for a royalty situation, such that the project will pay you as long as
this work remains in print>
I will be able to send you the finished book,( except that page in the front of
every book with the legal stuff etc in it.) when its ready, although I am not
sure when.
<It might be best to just send parts along... to myself, others whom you have
confidence in have capacity with written English, some familiarity with the
subject material. That way we can right suggested changes, return to you for
your consideration, amalgamation>
Will it cost me money to get the book published?
<Mmm, yes... someone has to pay... for production, shipping... warehousing,
fulfillment (filling orders, collecting and disbursing money... You can "sell"
this/these parts of the work to others, and you'll skip out on possible lack of
sales, but then you won't earn as much money as you would if you did more of it
yourself>
What photo resolution will you need for each pic?
<Mmm, may I ask what software you intend to use to do the lay out here? I have
used Adobe's products, but many folks like Quark, Quark-Express...>
I've gotten a few really high res pics, but a lot of them are low res, so I may
have to re-contact the people for the originals. and hopefully those will be the
right resolution.
<I would make, keep a list of these contributors handy... You may need to
contact them for better scans or borrowing originals. In the meanwhile, keep
taking/making pix yourself>
well, I hope that I sent this message to the right place, and I had a lot of fun
meeting and talking to you at IMAC!
regards,
-John
<I do hope your work sees print... and I will continue to help you, Bob Fenner>
Re: remember me? am the guy writing a book about pufferfish
5/17/06
Hi Bob!
<John>
Thanks for replying so fast!
I've sent a few pages around to Jeni, Lisa brown, and some other people I know
on TPF. I take non-credit art classes at a art college, and I know some of my
teachers quite well, and one of them turns out to be a professional editor :)
I am sure he will be able to help me edit this thing, because I am not good at
English!
<A learned trait... yours will become more proficient through applied interest>
I am using Adobe Photoshop for the graphics/photo layout, and M. word for the
text. I previously had been cutting and pasting the text from M. word to Pshop,
but I ran into a problem: Text does not print at all well when resized and saved
to a image. So I believe I am going to need Adobe illustrator to do the final
layout,
<Do see their "In Design" or the MAC "Quark" products for actual layout... am
going to CC JasonC, LorenzoG and AnthonyC here re their input... as they're more
familiar...>
but unfortunately I do not have illustrator, although one of my teachers does,
so I may have to spend a lot of time at his house or something.
Do you know what the minimum photo resolution will have to be?
<I would scan all at a minimum of 300 dpi... I currently do what scans I do at
4k dpi... most all pix are going/coming the digital route...>
hmmmmm, I could try self publishing first, although I doubt that I have the
funds for it. The only reason I have Pshop is because my parents are very
supportive.
<We can/will talk re... If WWM/myself deem that this work will be a commercial
success, we may well offer to produce it, help in its promotion, sale,
distribution... and pay you a royalty per copy. As stated, all this rests upon
the apparent "worthiness", potential sales that the work would generate>
I will put together a few finished pages to send you, although the text may not
look nice because it will be coming from Pshop. I have the entire outline done,
quite a few roughs, and about 12 finished pages, other then the need for higher
resolution photos!
<Mmm, most important to see finished sections... for now, the
foreword/introduction, and Table of Contents... and a working bibliography if
you have this keyed>
should I keep sending all my messages to this address?
<Yes, this is fine, best>
thanks for all your help!
-John
<A pleasure to share/live vicariously through your project. Bob Fenner>
Re: remember me? I'm the guy writing a book about pufferfish -
05/17/2006
Hi,
hmmmmm, I'm not sure about the photo resolution. The resolution coming from the
photos from my camera aren't even worth mentioning, although I have taken a few
with my brothers camera. the ones from my brothers camera I think are 180dpi,
and the file size is 1.5 mb.
<The file size is fine for many purposes, the resolution, not>
I'm not sure if that will be good enough, otherwise every photo in the book may
have to be request photos.
Currently I'm working out quite a few photo requests, from various
people/websites.
<Good... do keep good notes re>
oh, forgot to say this in the original message, I am also good friends with Lisa
Brown! ( she actually threatened to send ninjas to abduct me if I didn't say
this...J/K)
<Heeeee!>
I am not really sure what you meant in the last part, about the
forward/introduction and working bibliography. you want me to send you those
pages? most of them are not edited yet.
<Yes... when they/these are edited>
for photo credits, I am planning on putting a caption near each photo, with that
persons requested credit. I am sure there will be a special thanks and
bibliography section too.
<Good>
I included a reduced quality version of the cover, and I will finish putting
together one of the sections to send to you too, although it will not be "fully"
finished, because I still need the photo originals.
-John
<Yes. Bob Fenner>
Re: remember me? I'm the guy writing a book about pufferfish -
05/17/2006
Attached is a nearly finished section. I it is the third section, called
"the puffer confusion" detailing how to ID the most commonly confused
puffers. coming before this section are "external anatomy" and before that, the
introduction.
I have not yet put together a table of contents, although I do have the outline,
which I could type up and send, to give you a basic idea of what's in the book.
<A good idea... this is a primarily important part of this and all printed
works... Many folks read these sections... and decide (or not) to buy,
read...>
The only things I still have remaining for this section is to get the full-res
versions of the BW/marine puffers, and I still have to contact the
people about using the target puffer pics. hopefully I will be able to get high
enough resolution pictures.
<I will gladly allow you the use of my puffer pix... will send you a copy of all
scans on my return to the mainland next month>
The text portion of this section is finished and has been edited by me and a few
other people.
well, let me know what you think of this section, as well as the cover in my
previous message.
-John
<Very nice thus far. Will send along my specific input on your work. BobF>
Re: Publishing your info in book form 9/21/06
Dear Bob,
<Andy>
It was a pleasure speaking to you last weekend. Let's stay in touch,
and please be on the look-out for authors who may want to co-author
with you
on various topics. We can also meet up for lunch after you return
from your trip to chat.
The link to our medical publishing site is:
http://www.medrounds.org/
Here is an example online book:
http://www.medrounds.org/protect-your-sight/
Our general publishing site will have several titles soon. There's
one in the work now which you can view here:
http://www.fepint.org/winning-helix/
Information for authors can be found here:
http://www.fepint.org/2006/06/publishing-for-authors.html
Also, examples of our streaming educational videos for surgery:
http://www.medrounds.org/advanced-cataract-surgery/
Imagine we develop an archive of aquaria books with videos! It would
be awesome.
Best regards,
Andy D.
<Very nice... I congratulate you... a service as this is very
timely, likely to be profitable for all involved, including
writers/content providers and consumers alike. Will post, share with
others. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
New Book Released 10/8/06
Hi Bob,
Just wanted to send you a link to a new book we are releasing this month:
http://www.fepint.org/
This gives you an idea how the electronic version of the books look like. People
can order the printed books from us, Amazon.com, Barnes and Noble, and other
retailers.
Have you been able to stir any interested authors?
<They'll contact you directly>
I am free on Monday if you would like to meet for coffee.
<Am out of the country then, but thank you>
Best regards,
Andy D.
<Ah, thanks much for this update Andy. Will post/share. BobF>
Bob contacting you for that name of inexpensive self publishers 9-19-06
Bob,
<Hi there!>
Greetings,
How are things since you and Diana got back from Negril?
<Fine... though we both had colds... likely from the flight>
It was great meeting and talking with you and her at Sandals. We had such a
nice time!
I have written Sandals a quite lengthy letter about their diving operation, so
we will see what becomes of that.
<Good>
Hey, you had mentioned to contact you about the name of an inexpensive
self-publisher for books. If you would supply me with the name, address and
phone number---that would be super.
<Yes... Try here first: Knepper's:
http://www.knepperpress.com/index.html
Nice folks, honest and hard-working. Have recently heard from a fellow who is
associated with Ingram re "one at a time" ("Print on Demand") printing which
seemed very reasonably priced as well... >
We are curious to see how our 35 mm pics turned out from the trip. Russell is
taking them in today. The wedding photos I took of Whitney and Matt, I
think turned out very nice.
Keep in contact Bob...hope to hear from you soon.
Sheree and Russell from Missouri
It's a Jelly! Article, biz 8/4/06
Good morning Bob,
I had two telephone calls from Aquarium Fish Magazine / Bowtie this morning. One
was Craig with the advertising who agreed that a published
article would be very helpful.
<Yes! As I've harped on incessantly with you...>
He also indicated they were considering an article on jellyfish.
<Very good indeed>
Within 30 minutes of that conversation I received a telephone call from Patricia
( missed her last name ) but I believe she is the managing
editor for AFM. She expressed interest in a jellyfish article, possibly a 3 part
series. She indicated she would look at their 2007 season and
determine when she had space so she could give me a deadline. She mentioned 2000
words and the need for 4x5 300 DPI pictures.
<Great news!>
I have 1500 words written so far and still need to polish it up before I send it
to you.
<Okay>
Any thoughts or comments ?
<Yes... get writing!!! Cheers, BobF>
Jim Stime, jr.
Midwater Systems www.jelliquarium.com
Magazine Articles 6/29/06
Hi Bob,
<Keiran>
I'm happy to report that the magazine process is going really well i know have
a team of individuals who are willing to work with me; and a large printing
company who I have negotiated a price with for printing and distribution at a
very reasonable rate. I sent an email a while back (not being rude, just know
how busy you guys are!) and am now at the stage of asking what you personally
charge for articles?
<Yes, I recall. You did receive my response I hope>
I have a couple of British writers on board and also Alf Jacob Nilsen who will
write articles and supply a lot of the image work.
<Ah, good. A fine person>
We are still about three months away from publishing the first copy and would
really like to get the overheads calculated. If you could give me a fixed price
i would be much appreciative.
<Will gladly accept your standard rate. I am an old content provider (long since
retired, though am only 53), and "don't do this for the money">
Also i know the WetWebMedia crew is large with many knowledgeable and talented
writers and was wondering if there was anyone else that you know personally that
would be willing to write for the publication. Which now has a name -
UltraMarine!!!
Thank you for your Time
Keiran Hart
<Please do send along the means/physical or e- address you'd like to have me,
others make submissions. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Re: Magazine Articles - 06/30/06
Hey Bob,
<Keiran>
I've sorted out this email address - ultramarine14@btinternet.com for
submissions; once people have emailed me, i will get back in contact with them
and chat about the ways they can contribute as i would like regular submissions
from up to 10 more writers.
<Good plan>
Would you be interested in writing a continuous article that stretches from
one article to another (Part 1, 2, 3 etc); i will give you the freedom to write
about anything in the hobby; I just feel that a regular article could work
really well.
<I will gladly make submissions, and will do so presently... Do you want
images/scans snail-mailed to you? Or all just sent electronically? I and others
may well send a bunch that would be better seen on a CD>
I have sorted out prices at $230 for a standard sized articles;
Thanks again for your quick response:
Keiran
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Re: Mmm, an FYI pursuant to ChuckR's phone call - 04/25/06
Hi all,
Thanks to all of you who have and are sending submissions to Scott and I for
CA. All of these end up being placed/linked in the relevant WWM topic
areas, so they serve to benefit all who come to WWM seeking info.
For those asking about length and subject matter.... please do follow the advice
given and take a look at the magazine for some guidance, but don't be
limited by what you see! If it is too short (unlikely), we will help you
develop it. If it is too long, we will split it into more than one part.
As Bob stated, the subject matter can range to the very margins of the aquatic
hobby.
There is lots of inspiration to be found in the patterns of queries that we
receive every day to the crew. I wrote a marine filtration piece to address
the constant stream of "I have a 65 gallon tank with a penguin filter and a
Fluval canister and I can't seem to control my nitrates or algae". If you
find yourself addressing the same problems over and over, write an article about
it and you will forever have a prefabricated answer!
Thanks!
Adam
<Thanks Adam... am accumulating, posting. BobF>
Re: Mmm, an FYI pursuant to ChuckR's phone call - 04/25/06
So we get $$$ for using our articles at WWM & more $$$ if used for CA?
<Mmm, nope... the same money for both/either>
And even more $$$ for sending them to mag.s for print in the US & then more $$$
for international mag.s??? No problem there, I'll get writing!!! (Just
sent one in!)
<Oh yes to these two... Is what I do and have done for decades...>
How about my articles on GSPs & trimming small FW puffer's teeth? Lets go
international w/those!
~Jeni/PP
<Good idea. Do you want to look up magazines, addresses? Get sending. BobF
<Can you recommend any overseas mag.s? ~J><<Many... RMF>> Mmm, an FYI pursuant to ChuckR's phone call ... call for article content
(for pay) on WWM 4/25/06
Any guidance as to how long articles should be? Should we write them and
then email you copies or would you rather we discuss our outline with you
first before writing?
Gratefully,
Tim
<Tim, take a jaunt through most any of the articles on WWM.... For a slice of
inspiration for you and anyone else, can you think of a question on a
topic that you frequently answer on WWM, and wish you had an article to
reference instead of writing a small novel every time you get that type of
question? Well, there ya go. Make the article, and then you'll only have to
type "Please read here: (link)" when you get that kind of question
again. Or, is there a particular topic that tickles your fancy? Tickle it out
on paper, and you're all set. Now if only I could find the time;
goodness knows I've got plenty of inspiration.... -Sabrina>
Info Re: FAMA, TFH, AFM - 01/03/2006
Hallo <Hello> Mr. Bob Fenner,
<Actually Josh here to help.>
Sarry <Sorry> about my bad English.
<No worries. The corrections I've inserted are just to help you for future
reference, not to insult.>
I would like to know the meanings of
FAMA <Freshwater And Marine Aquarium Magazine>
TFH <Tropical Fish Hobbyist>
AFM <Aquarium Fish Magazine>
I am looking for literatura <literature> about Swallowtail Angelfishes<,>
especially Genicanthus species. Can You help me?
<Start here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/angels/genicanthus/ and follow the
links above.>
With best regards
Rolan Kiesinger
<Hope that helps. - Josh>
Why not just read the experts? 12/28/05
Hi guys,
<Steve>
My reading of most aquarists is the never ending trying this and that.
<Human nature...>
When it is all over seems like many leading aquarists come up with any number of
conclusions and then they often decide maybe all the ways are somewhat good
or even a mix. When I read the marine biologists books on the reef hobby they
say they know with out trying.
<... don't know if I'm discerning your meaning here...>
For instance just by knowing places a
marine animal is most often found, they can tell you what conditions are
needed in the marine tank for that animal to survive and what part of its
nature life span will be lost by not matching for instance a average temp
from the places it is found. It seems like these guys have all the answers
and most of them do not even have a reef tank. Are you guy's just rebels or is
there more to it?
Thanks,
Steve
<It has been my experience that many folks with academic backgrounds in
aquatic-related sciences have valid input, knowledge to share of husbandry
matters... But the vast majority that have not actually been aquarists are often
woefully, practically ignorant... not able to keep animals alive extent...
Earnest aquarists in turn have much useful, applicable "scientific" knowledge re
various chemical, physical, biological aspects. Science is more a way of knowing
than a personal trait in my estimation... Bob Fenner, who is a bit of both>
Bob- Freshwater articles 12/17/05
Hi Bob
Although new to this hobby. I have learnt extensively from your website. After
talking to a lot of persons I realize that there is a lot of
misinformation/wrong information to general public.
I have now started to share my knowledge with other in my country. I have
written two small articles which have been put up at an Indian aquarium website.
<Very nice>
As I have learnt so much from you, I would definitely like to thank you. If
you find time kindly go through following pages. Your comments would be greatly
appreciated.
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=99&mode=&order=0&thold=0
http://indianaquariumhobbyist.com/community/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=97&mode=&order=0&thold=0
Regards
Sandeep Raghuvanshi
<I do like your simplified (with explanations where needed) approach of
detailing "what needs to be known". I encourage you to add a few graphics,
photos and send these pieces to the "print mag.s" in our interest for review,
consideration for publication. Bob Fenner>
AdamJ, TFH 12/16/05
Hello Bob,
Today I was contacted by Mr. Bill Kolbenschlag of TFH magazine and they have
decided to run the article I wrote (that you sent in on my behalf). I just
wanted to say thank you once again. The family and I are quite excited.
Adam Jackson
p.s. I plan to write a few more articles during winter break
<Ahh, outstanding! A wonderful introduction to this part of our
hobby/interest, and another way for you to share your insights, experiences.
Am enjoying same on WWM. Cheers, BobF>
Re: SeaScope
Bob,
<James>
See you have another fine article about maroon clowns in vol. 1, 05 of SeaScope. What does SeaScope pay for an article they publish?
<I think 150-200... plus something for pix... 20 per?>
Thinking of sending my article to them as I've already sent three or four emails to David along with a hard copy of the article and a copy of your
anemone scans without a response from him.
<Mmm, take care here... "multiple submissions" are trouble... that is, making, having sent the same work to more than one place... might run in
both... not good>
Is Tom Frakes the man to contact at Aquarium Systems ?
<Umm, no... long since gone... and now Tim Hovanec is gone as well... write them and ask who to make submissions to... or just send in c/o Editor...
Cheers, BobF, who has hundreds (not an exaggeration) of pc.s out at any moment... Keep writing... and submitting>
Cephalopholis article...
Hey Bob,
Hope all is well with you.
I have finished ( at long last) proofing the Ceph article, and need to place
photos I THINK. How do I submit the article? Do I format how I think it
should look, and place photos accordingly? What are the guidelines in this
regard? Isn't web format different than the pages in Word? Also, do I just
send to you? How does payment work? Will you submit or help me submit to a
print mag as well? How does payment work in that regard?
Sorry for all the questions - I'm new at this.
Jim
<Good to offer your layout ideas... so, Word or other processing program can
be used... and to submit via mail if you don't know editors well-enough...
with a short cover letter (please send all along and I'll gladly review)...
The editor or such will make it known (within a few weeks, months) whether
they'll accept or not. Some pay ahead of publication (TFH), most others
after. Glad to help. Bob F>
Sea Scope
Bob,
Quite a few years back you wrote articles for Sea Scope. I believe around
1997 or so. You had a couple more after that and I must add enjoyed reading
them. Then, I don't remember seeing anymore till 2003. Did you not like
writing for Sea Scope?
<Very much enjoyed doing so... they have a very large, wide printing... some
250k or so, in a few languages. The new editor, Tim Hovanec is an old
friend, and runs my/our stuff from time to time still... and maybe yours if you
submit it.>
I believe the "Conscientious Marine Aquarist" title was born then, Hmm?
<CMA was ostensibly written in 95, saw print in 98>
Anyway, I am honored to be associated with you and the wet web crew.
Regards,
James (Salty Dog)
<And very glad to count you as friend and cohort. Bob F>
Rare marine fish book possibility, esp. pomacanthids
Bob,
<Michael>
It's been about 5 years since our last e-mail communication.
<Tempus fugit>
Nonetheless, much in the world has changed in the way of my fish
collection. Once again, I've been an avid hobbyist for 24 years now and
an avid rare fish collector for 10 years. I've had systems from 30
gallons to 4000 gallons.
The purpose for my e-mail was to discuss the likelihood for market
demand for a TRUE, NO-NONSENSE book - focused on rare and unusual
species. I've got all the angelfish books and while the pictures are
great - the aquarium advice is garbage. There is little truly usable
information on the husbandry of rare specimens, cost of acquisition,
realistic availability and photos from an aquarium. Mr. Endoh's
Japanese recent Angelfish book is the closest to such an endeavor - 90%
of photos taken in captivity.
<Very typical for Japanese aquarium books. Nonetheless, great pix.>
I would be very interested in your opinion on the opportunity. I'm
currently considering beginning this endeavor. I've had pretty much
everything considered rare on the Angelfish and Butterfly side.
Here's a current list of my inventory:
3 Holocanthus clarionensis
3 Holocanthus africanus
1 Holocanthus limbaughi
1 Holocanthus ciliaris - St. Paul's Rocks Specimen 1 Centropyge
interrupta
2 Centropyge resplendens
2 Centropyge debelius
1 Centropyge joculator
1 Centropyge hotumatua
1 Centropyge aurantius
1 Centropyge boylei
1 Centropyge multicolor
2 Apolemichthys arcuatus
1 Apolemichthys xanthopunctatus
1 Apolemichthys griffiisi
2 Chaetodontoplus conspicillatus - 1 Specimen is a hybrid C.
conspicillatus x C. meridithi
1 Chaetodontoplus septentrionalis - Solid blue face specimen
2 Pomacanthus chrysurus - 1 Specimen is a hybrid P. chrysurus x P.
maculosus
1 Pomacanthus asfur - Xanthic color form - White bar and white caudal
fin
2 Genicanthus personatus
Let me know your thought, angry retorts, etc.
<Hee hee! That's a lot of marine angelfishes... and money invested. I'd bet they
eat more money in food than myself.>
Best regards,
Michael Gonzales
<Such a work has intriguing possibilities, though I must relate to you that
print works in the aquarium interests rarely make any real money (we shoot for
15% cash against cash annual returns)... BUT I do encourage you to pursue the
project "serially" at first, by writing your experiences, points of view in
"article format"... and selling same (I'll help you) to print and Net pet-fish
periodicals. Take a species, or genus, or aspect (selection, habitat,
foods/feeding/nutrition...) if you'd like and "write it up"... and make, find
pix to go along with it... and voila (!) you're on your way to book publication.
Bob Fenner>
Sharing Hobby Experience!
Dear WWM Crew,
<Hi there! Scott F. here tonight!>
I frequently visit your site in search of info and have expanded my
knowledge in aquatic husbandry as a result.
<Thank you for the kind words. Glad to hear that you find it helpful! We are
thrilled to bring it to you!>
The shared experiences of other aquarists can give one many practical tips in
problem solving however I have noticed that most individuals write to you only
when they have a problem/question and do not offer info about their successes
(or if the info
is there it is not easy to find). May I suggest that you add FAQ categories
that include success topics such as; success in keeping SPS's, success with
treating a reef system infested with ick, success with lowering hair algae
growth in a reef system, success with removing flatworms... etc. I would be
the first to contribute my observations if such a system was set up.
<A great idea. we do love to hear success stories! As co-editor of WWM's
Conscientious Aquarist Online Magazine with Adam Cesnales, I speak for both of
us when I encourage you to write of your success, and share it with your fellow
hobbyists. The magazine is an excellent vehicle to share experiences!>
These categories might be more helpful to those using the google search as well.
When one is doing a search it is most likely to find answers to their
question/problem. Instead of having to read through a million e-mails which
detail other aquarists' problems the searcher can locate possible solutions and
share their outcome.
<Agreed, but there is an enormous amount of good information in the FAQs. Our
library of articles is outstanding in its breadth, too.>
I believe that each individual whom keeps fish/invertebrates is essentially
conducting his/her own unique on-going experiment whether they set out to do it
or not. Wouldn't it be more helpful
to compare results/observations as well rather than just compare setups and
problems?
<Cannot argue with that! Sounds like you're a burgeoning author! Do submit some
material for us to consider for publication in Conscientious Aquarist!>
I am familiar with your book and appreciate all the knowledge
that Bob Fenner etc. has introduced but I also think that there is a wealth of
untapped info among your readers of this site.
Laurie
<Absolutely correct, Laurie! We strongly encourage you to share with fellow
hobbyists, whether it's here in the Daily FAQs, in articles in Conscientious
Aquarist, or on the WWM Chat Forum! Hope to hear from you soon! Regards, Scott
F>
FAMA, payment and articles
Just read through your long string online about battling for payment (
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/famamag.htm ). I submitted
an article to them back in December and was happy that it was printed this last
July, a review of 4 canister filters titled "Four-of-a-Kind." After being
ignored by their accounting department, Susan and now Kathy Rodriguez, I'm
wondering if they printed the article simply because they're running out of
writers who are willing to be mistreated.
<Sigh... what bad P.R.... I strongly suspect you are correct. We have more
readership on WWM everyday than FAMA has subscribers... It's only a matter of
time before their advertisers "find out" what is going on and they tank
virtually overnight. I had the same problem with a UK publication, got a couple
hundred URLs from their zine, advertisers, other content providers... and sent
them all a note re how I was treated... You might try this, very effective>
I'm glad that I ran across your little corner of the Internet. I figured that
I'd pissed off their advertisers, hence I became a non-entity. Seems they're
just bad about paying people. I was debating sending another article, but I
think I'll just hang onto this one until a better market pops up.
<... It is amazing (to me) that the owner and her daughter (KathyR) think they
can get away with this behavior. It's a shame that so many others (their staff
has some excellent people) will suffer for their shenanigans>
How long ago did your battle with them end?
Thanks!
Steven Poor
<About a year... finally told them to return (some dozens of pieces, hundreds of
covers) my content... there are many other markets. I suggest you make
submissions to others. Bob Fenner>
Re: FAMA, payment and articles
Thanks for the quick note back. Seems I need to add "fight with a magazine"
to my mounting aquarium woes.
Steve
<A shame... I have sent the powers that be there a few notes from other
disconcerted authors... Chins up as folks tell me! Bob F>
Arrowhead Article
Hey there Bob,
I'm curious, I noticed your name on the editors list in Tropical Fish Hobbyist
magazine. Do you think my arrowhead article is good enough for
submission to them or would it need to be edited further?
<Worth submitting (to David Boruchowitz) to see... if you have with photos...
Perhaps a little "beefing up" (more examples, anecdotes of practical
husbandry matters). Submit it and ask for David's input. Bob Fenner>
Thanks for your input
Heather
Citing WWM for a Bibliography
How would I cite your web page (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidaria.htm)
for
a school project?
<List the authors name, the date of publication (not given here), the
title/subject on the page and our URL:
Fenner, Bob. Undated. Cnidaria: Stinging Celled Animals,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidaria.htm
Bob Fenner>
Article Submission
Hello, I am interested in submitting my article for publication in the FAMA. Before
I do this I would like to know what the rules and regulations are on having it
published on other web sites and in other magazines.
Thanks for your help
Heather Cooan
<Mmm, well, FAMA and most other periodicals do have (published) guidelines...
for format, length... et al. I'm cc'ing Sue Steele, Art Director and Editor of
FAMA and asking for her input here. For other 'zines, I suggest writing to them
directly and requesting a copy of their guidelines for submissions. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Article Submission
I am actually planning on writing other articles, is there need for an
article on figure 8 puffers? This should not be a problem, maybe I
can shed
some light on the freshwater/brackish water debate.
<IMO there is a huge need for informational, inspirational material on
brackish systems and livestock... most of these set-ups and their inhabitants
are and have been "bumped off" through ignorance...>
I have sent this article to Brian Scott at Tropical Fish Hobbyist
magazine.
<Outstanding>
Are there any other contacts for other hobbyist magazines I should try?
<One at a time per any given article... "Multiple submissions" are
a giant "no no" in the print biz. If you have other articles, and TFH
can't run them (due to space, time, interest), I encourage you to try FAMA
next... Sue Steele there is a delight to work with. Bob Fenner>
Thank!
Heather Cooan
Re: Permission to link to some of your articles
Thanks Bob. I appreciate that. By the way, thanks for
the info on your
site. After reading some of your pointers on writing articles, I have
so
far submitted two articles, one to AFM and one to FAMA and both have been
accepted. I am currently working on my third dealing with the future
of
transgenic fish in the aquarium hobby and will be submitting that to TFH in
the near future. I am really having fun with this so thanks for the
wonderful site!
<Outstanding. Congratulations on your burgeoning writing career. Bob
Fenner>
Duane D. Clark
AquaServe Aquarium Publications
Citing the Wet Web Media's seastar page
Greetings,
Currently I am writing a magazine article for children called, "Can you See
with your Arms and Breathe with your Feet?". I want to cite the Wet Web
Media seastar pages in my bibliography, but I am having difficulty finding the
version number of the webpage along with when the page was originally published
online. Also many sponsors sponsor the webpage, and so I would like to find out
the leading sponsor so I may list them in my bibliographical entry as well.
Thank you for your time,
Matthew S. Harvey
<I would just list the URL and WetWebMedia, or you may add my name as the
author. Bob Fenner>
Question about Publishing
Hi, my name is Cory,
I'm a member or WWM chat forum.
<Yes. Hello Cory>
Ananda had referred me to you about my question of publishing an article. Ananda
and several others have informed me that there haven't been any documented
spawnings of arrowhead pufferfish (Tetraodon suvatii) in captivity. I have
successfully spawned them, and am in the process of raising the fry (which are
now 3 weeks old, and doing great).
I have written an article, which if need be, I can easily attach to an email and
send. I was wondering what I do next though, in order to get it published. Thank
you for your time!
<Submit it, with a short cover letter, addressed to the publisher of
whichever (just one at a time per any submission) magazine you'd like. Do you
favor one periodical over another? I suggest including copies of any image work
you have (these can be dupes or scans on CDs). If you'd like help identifying
the mag.s, editors, please make this known. Bob Fenner>
-Cory
Re: Bob - Question about Publishing
<Submit it, with a short cover letter, addressed to the publisher of
whichever
(just one at a time per any submission) magazine you'd like. Do you favor one
periodical over another? I suggest including copies of any image work you have
(these can be dupes or scans on CDs). If you'd like help identifying the mag.s,
editors, please make this known. Bob Fenner>
I'd greatly appreciate help identifying magazines. I only know of one, Aquarium
Fish Magazine, which I do subscribe to. This is the only magazine we get
locally. Any others would be greatly appreciated.
<You can write Sue Steele at FAMA (Freshwater and Marine Aquarium) OR David
Boruchowitz at TFH (Tropical Fish Hobbyist) here in the United States>
And also, about the cover letter, I'm not familiar with what to put on a cover
letter for publishing an article. Any quick tips on writing a cover letter for
this 'event' would also be greatly appreciated. Once again, thank you for your
time!
<A short, to-the-point message about what the piece is about, some bio.
material about yourself... this is about it. Magazines do have "writers
guidelines" about how they want materials submitted, what sort of work
they're looking for, what they pay... Some of this can be gleaned from the
Internet (all have a presence under their names via search tools). I'll cc Sue
and David here and ask for their response. Bob Fenner>
-Cory
Aloha (looking for books to review)
<And you>
I'm the guy who does the book reviews for <A HREF="www.advancedaquarist.com">www.advancedaquarist.com</. I
did a
review of your Conscientious Marine Aquarist (favorable of course) and would
like a review copy of your Fishwatcher's Guide so that I can get that reviewed
too.
<Will forward your request>
I've been in touch with Anthony Calfo about your collaboration on Reef
Invertebrates and would like a copy of that also.
<Not in print as of yet... should be out by end of this month>
Terry Siegel said that you'd be moving here to the Big Island, and I'm pretty
sure that Dana thinks you'll be in Holualoa, not too far from me.
<We did buy a place just mauka of the town: 75-5377 Mamalahoa Hwy
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/holualoaproperty.htm
but intend to just use this for a holiday property for ourselves and friends>
I hope it's all true. If you don't move here before then I hope to
see you at MACNA in the fall.
<I'll be out diving/traveling. Anthony will likely be there. Bob Fenner>
Yours,
Doug Robbins
79-7199 Mamalahoa Hwy. #351
Holualoa, HI 96725
Re: proof reading WWM
Hey,
I just finished reading the "Sharks in my Living Room?"
article. I found it quite interesting, but noticed quite
a few little spelling/typo kinds of mistakes. Instead of
whining about this, I'm interested in doing proof-reading
and editing of the articles on the site. My aquarium-related
knowledge is somewhat lacking, but I could certainly read
through many of the articles and correct minor mistakes.
I'm not sure if someone already does this, and I don't
want to criticize my favourite site on the web. I just want
to offer a bit of help with a task that need not
occupy the time of the WWM experts.
<Great! How to proceed...? Can you copy, correct, then resend the sections to
us as attached files here? I'll gladly re-place the present ones. Bob Fenner>
Thanks!
Derek
Selling Articles
Dear Bob,
Phil
Bozek here. I thank you again for posting my shark
paper. The last few months have been crazy around my house and I'm
truly sorry for not being able to thank you sooner. I'd like to take
you up on the offer of trying to submit my work to hobby magazines. I
would hopefully like to have a monthly column, but that maybe pushing
it. I've tried getting jobs in my area and all have
failed. The only place that would hire me was a restaurant, they
fired me after 2 weeks. They called me and told me I was "too
smart". That was it.
<Not too smart of them>
I feel bad, but I hope if I can write I can make a little money doing something
I love. I know that you can help me... And if your ever in Michigan
well, how about dinner on me (I mean it!!) or a trip to the Belle Isle Aquarium,
during the day of course!!!
<Okay>
If you need more info about me or more articles I'd be happy to send them to
you. If you could do this it would be wonderful!! By the
way, I was at the fish store the other day, I asked a question and they said to
buy your book (I already have it...) I said its ok I'll just ask Bob
himself!! You should have seen their faces!!! Best
wishes!!
<Do send along whatever drafts you have as you complete them and we'll
e-submit them over the Internet. Bob Fenner>
Phil
Learning and loving the Hobby
Anthony, I hope that all is well.
<very well my friend>
Holy Crap. You are speaking at MACNA?? That is crazy. I
guess that I found the right person to talk to.
<Awww, shucks. they'll let anybody speak at those things :) Actually our good
friend and founder of this site has had several occasions to speak at MACNA.
More importantly, he has been a mentor in the trade on more levels and venues
than you and I can count in the last few decades. If you do not have Bob's book,
Conscientious Marine Aquarist... it really is a must have>
Well at any rate, the question thing. That was not a threat.
<heehee... I understood bud. Just kidding you>
That was the truth. There were a few people that I
asked questions to, only the ones that truly were not answered in the books that
I have read. And it really really irritated them.
<indeed, that is bogus if they had the time and wherewithal to answer>
I am not sure why. One of them went around acting like she was God, just because
she was one of the few privileged enough to have worked for someone that
maintained saltwater aquariums long enough that she did not make the common
mistakes.
<look on the bright side... perhaps she chafes easily>
She was not a really nice person. My viewpoint on it was that she was
a holder of knowledge, and she was guarding a door that would not be unlocked.
<understood... but do see the other side of that perspective too: there is
much more pleasure/pride on the road to discovery/enlightenment which is not
entirely a road of teachers reciting to us (and we as students merely
memorizing). There needs to be a balance>
I think perhaps that she was one of those people that would rather only a few
elite to have some of the more "difficult" animals.
<hmmm... there is some legitimate concern about letting inexperienced people
have any difficult species for random slaughter. To curb that we must have
skilled merchants and mentors that guide aquarists voluntarily to species
suitable for their present skill set>
At any rate it does not matter, she would even lie to try and discourage me. On
to other things. When I asked about the documentation thing. I
did not simply mean how do I write it all down in HTML source, and post it on
the net. I am currently working on that now for a freshwater site. When
I
succeed with the Centropyge loriculus, and Bispinosa groups, I will post that
too. What I meant was how do I Scientifically Document this without
being a scientist.
<I have no idea my friend... I am not a scientist either. For such help, I go
to conferences to mix with the scientists. Pitch your data to an empathetic
academic who will kindly guide you or co-author your paper.>
I thought that there might be a way to definitively prove this other than
writing it on the web.
<hmmm.... you lost me on the web emphasis thing. I specifically referred to
the written word in my last e-mail... writing a paper or article, taking
pictures (include with data) and get it published in a magazine or journal>
There is a lot of stuff out there, and a lot of it is false. How do I
prove that I am not making my results up?
<who do you want to prove it to? If it was me, I wouldn't care... simply do
good work, be clear and lucid in your reports and photo-documentation... and let
any interested party replicate your findings. There's all the proof you need>
I am sorry I should have made this more clear to begin with. I
do not always phrase my sentences correctly.
<no worries at all>
As far as the skimmer plans, I was going to give then to you
with a report, so that you would be able to post them on the website for others.
<Okey-dokey>
I am sorry if I offended you in the last letter, that was certainly not my
intention.
<no offense taken... I was just having fun with you and trying to illuminate
some shared lessons in life>
You are a really good person for putting up with people like me.
I know you all get tons of E-mail every single day, and it is really wonderful
that you take time out of your schedule, to talk to people that you do not even
know. Everyone in the crew of WetWebMedia.com, are really good
people. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and experience with me.
I probably wouldn't have so many questions or write so much if I did not live
right smack dab in the center of Guppysville USA. Thanks for all of your help
Anthony, By the way, I have seen this a lot, and I am curious. What
does <G> stand for? -b-
<ahhhh... yes, it is part of expressive 'Net lingo. Do look up some sites
with data on popular symbols as such. In this case "<G>" simply
means "grin"... a diffusive "smile" that you cannot see to
portend the real (and usually joking or affable) meaning of a written sentence.
<VBG> in turn is a "very big grin". Best regards, Anthony>
Life, the cosmos
Thanks again Anthony, I hope I am not causing a
problem by writing every single day, but I have a problem. If I find
someone who knows the answers to my questions, I will ask and ask and ask, until
I know as much as possible, or until I make that person so mad at me for asking
questions, that they will not talk to me
anymore.
<are you threatening me <G>?>
I hope that you are doing well.
<well... but cautious now :) >
My question this time is.....
What is this MACNA of which you speak, and when is it?
<the biggest hobby conference in the nation with 3 days of speakers, lectures
and product expositions... essentially, it is heaven for aquarists (hobby, zoo,
etc). Occurs once yearly... this year by the Kentucky club. See here:
http://www.lmas.org/macna_xv.htm >
If it is what you say it is then it is one of those few precious times in my
life that sounds like a chance that only comes once. I believe that I
can make it.
<it is one of the best investments you can make in your education as a
serious aquarist. This year should be inexpensive (hotel, conference price,
etc)>
Although I need to know the common stuff, dates, times, places that
sort of thing. I have never heard of this before. I
definitely have the time to do it though. Back to the thing
about asking questions. I was fired from my last job because of those
pesky questions.
<you worked for the Government?!?>
It would seem that I made some people that were too high up on the
food chain mad by asking them.
<asking questions is necessary and fine... but make time first and always to
listen. Do read and research as well>
At any rate, I would really love to go to this MACNA deal. It seems
like it would be a good thing. I also replied to a person that wanted
to know if anyone had any Ideas on how to get the Centropyge larvae past the
eight day mark. Now I am supposed to call the Waikiki Aquarium, and
another person. (He figured
it out, and they are willing to share.)
<please share with us/all in kind and write us back here with info! Always
give as freely as you take <G>>
Also, if I were to successfully bring them past the 50 day mark, at which point
they would be metamorphosed, how would I go about documenting that?
<OK... now here is where me/anybody answering a barrage of questions has to
draw the line before it is called "enabling behavior". Help yourself
(and your future job security!) by thinking about the questions you ask my
friend and have respect for the people you ask (still smiling and good natured
here <G>). I say this to help you, bud. You asked me how to document it?
At face value- the question is remarkable from someone smart enough to navigate
the Internet, read, research other people's documentations (the written word,
e-mails, articles, photographs) but suddenly you are unsure of how to document
you own? Please... throw me a frickin' bone here. Ha! You are now officially
restricted to asking only questions that you not only do not know the answer to,
but also ones that you cannot discover with a reasonable amount of diligence in
discovery (research). :) >
I talked to the person that began teaching me how to do aquariums, and she
thinks that I am insane.
<really... that makes two of us>
Doesn't believe that I am ready to take on something of this scale.
<on that point I disagree... you can do it. All can be revealed>
True I have never owned a Marine System, but I think that I can handle it.
<hmmm...>
I was able to cycle a freshwater system using just angelfish. They
said that I was crazy for that too,
<not crazy... just irresponsible>
but in a low pH, stuff just isn't as toxic or even the
same thing sometimes.
<exploiting the ammonia/ammonium dynamic isn't absolute or even smart. Just
more forgiving>
Also, since the lighting is what you would call moderate, is there a way to
augment to where I would be able to contain
sps and clams, WITHOUT, and I cannot stress this enough, MH lighting.
<natural sunlight... read about it in the Book of Coral Propagation by Calfo
(Amazon.com <G>)>
I cannot afford to have the electric company build a small substation in my backyard.
<if you cannot afford MH lights then you cannot afford the marine angelfish
breeding program either, I'm afraid>
I am really kind of partial to VHO. Also I asked about the
downdraft not because I want to buy one, hehehhehe, I want to build one, but if
it will not work then there is no point to building it you see.
<I never said it wouldn't work... in fact, I said that they are "as good
or better" than most skimmers. They are IMO labor intensive and overpriced
compared to better choices, though>
If you would like the plans, I can send them to you along with a report on how
well it worked. After I build it.
<I do appreciate the offer, I suspect our WWM readers would enjoy your report
very much!>
As always I appreciate your time and consideration, -b-
<best regards, Anthony>
Re: publishing
Bob,
<John>
I bought your original Conscientious Marine Aquarist and have now preordered
your new book. I am building a 75 gal reef tank and a 40 gal seahorse.
Unfortunately I have had quadruple bypass surgery so I am in deep research mode
until I can lift items of any weight.
I am very happy with the Wetwebmedia as it provides me with all the information,
background and help I need in building marine aquariums. You are one of the few
groups that is using the internet in a novel and useful manner. I especially
like the quick responses.
<A pleasure to hear, realize your awareness>
In real life I am an angel investor that provides funding for very early stage
companies, usually one or two people in a garage. If you type in my name on
Google you will get some background information. One of my companies is Xlibris,
www.xlibris.com - a self publishing company. Going through your site it occurs
to me that you have so much content generated that could be useful to people in
an organized or book format. I went thru the refugium sections and will be
building an extra large refugium in the hopes of being able to grow some mysis
shrimp for the seahorses. I would be willing to buy a book on refugiums. I am
now going thru the calcium reactor pages. And this is another topic that could
warrant a book. Likewise there are maybe hundred’s of topics on the
Wetwebmedia that could warrant books.
<I believe you are correct. Mmm, as so often seems the case, what
"is" in the world, and what might be are distanced by a lack of
actionable opinion, skill and resources... We are as you state, in the process
of "gearing up" to produce in-print books...>
Xlibris fits into the picture where the market for a book is a fairly small
number (in the hundreds or thousands). We print the book AFTER it is ordered
(Print on Demand) one at a time. Hardcovers are roughly $26 which includes about
$4 royalty and softcovers are about $17. We also do large format all color
books. These books would be orderable through Amazon, Barnes and Noble and any
bookstore. On Amazon any book you published here would be listed alongside all
your other books. With Xlibris you would maintain all your rights and if you
were to be picked up by a mass market publisher, like your other books, we would
provide the publisher with all the pre press work to help in the transition.
Hope I am not being too commercial. Of al the reef books I have, your
Conscientious Marine Aquarist book is the one I am using as my bible for
building the tanks. What I found interesting is that after I had the book for
several months I was on the internet and someone was discussing the
“Conscientious” book by Bob Fenner, I thought to myself that Bob has another
book I should get. In my original reading nowhere did I feel that you were
preaching or being pedantic on the subject of being “Conscientious”.
<Indeed... this would be counterintuitive in my estimation. That is, it
occurs to me that proselytizing is unconscientious... "Be like the sun and
the good in your deeds will be revealed", or such>
Keep up the good. Hope to see you at the Brooklyn Aquarium Society May meeting
you are scheduled to appear.
<I look forward to meeting you. Thank you for writing, sharing. Bob
Fenner>
Sincerely,
John Ason
RE: That article on Adding Livestock (and drygoods) sales to Svc. Rel.
Bob,
<Duane>
Thanks for getting back with me. I would love to speak with you or all of
you at WWM. I would be happy to call at a convenient time...weekends
usually since I have my "real job" or in the evenings after 6 pm
central.
<Mmm, was hoping more for a face to face get-together... maybe at one of the
larger regional hobby conferences... or the international trade shows... Are you
going to Aquarama in May?>
As to what part of the process I am interested in - really all parts but
most specifically, getting the word out that I have books for sale,
production/printing resources and methods of distribution.
<Again, easily done... but first to generate the work itself... this will
help give all an idea of who the target audience is, its size, how to reach
it.>
I am by no means
a formally trained writer but I love the aquarium hobby and enjoy writing
and sharing my knowledge (as well as the research involved with the
preparation of any piece). Finally, I am very interested in the do's and
don't of what makes a good book...the logistics in creating a resource that
is informative and fun to read.
<Me too! Other than Anthony, none of us (as far as I'm aware) have academic
background in "writing"... It seems yours and my education in all this
has more to do with "explaining" a few dozen or more times what it is
we think needs to be imparted... defining how best to do this... and then
committing the same activity to print>
I have several manuals that really could be
combined to form one larger work but really don't know the best way to
organize, format, etc.
<I have had notions of writing "Aquarium Service Manuals",
"Retailing"... and omnibus series on the whole trade... but was and am
stymied at how large a market there might be...>
Well, enough of my rambling. Thanks again and I look forward to speaking
with you.
Duane Clark
<Let's keep thinking, chatting about your project/s... Have you seen Jay
Hemdal's "Aquarium Careers" book/let? Something like this could,
should be re-done... perhaps you could start here. Bob Fenner>
A content providing we will go...
How would I go about submitting a for pay article? Do you mean for a magazine like FAMA or AFM or TFH?
<Yes. Write one up, send it in... with pictures if you have them. Easily enough done... and how I got started on the content providing merry go round many years back... as oft-stated by others, "beats working"... and very useful for paying for ones hobbies>
I am interested and have experience writing papers etc, (I am in college, so a lot of papers are needed). Please get back to me. Thanks again!
<Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/wrtierfaqs.htm and the related "writing" sections posted on WWM. I will gladly help you... with editing, penning a cover letter to the editors involved. Not difficult and (to me) very rewarding. Bob Fenner>
-D
FW: Construction of a CO2 Canopy for Plant Tanks-FAMA MAG
Dear Bob,
I had a surprise today. FAMA MAG is going to publish my article on CO2 Canopy
for Plant tanks.
<Ah! Congratulations>
All credit to you for encouraging and supporting me to
produce that article and most of all giving it an exposure at your fantastic
web site. Though I have not corresponded with you for some time, I make it a
point to visit your site regularly to read FAQs.
Thanks and regards
Lalith Atugoda
<Be chatting... and writing! Bob Fenner>
finally got started writing an article for publication....
Hi Bob (& co. ;-)
<Howdy!>
I'm finally writing an article for publication. Nope, it's not a brackish topic, it's about setting up a nano-reef on a budget. It started as an answer post on the nano-reef board. When I wanted to refer people to it five times in two days I pulled it out into its own post. I have several pages written already as I'm fleshing out the various pieces. Here's the original post, from
http://www.nano-
reef.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3173 :
<Yes, I saw... very good>
>Tips: setting up a nano on a budget
>So, you've decided you just *have* to have a reef, but your budget
>is small. You might wonder if you can get into this hobby without
>draining your bank account or maxing your credit cards. Well, you
>can, if you are careful. Don't get me wrong: you WILL spend
>significant amounts of money on a nano tank over time. However, you
>can minimize the impact on your wallet with a bit of work. Here's
>what I've learned so far....
>The keys to doing a nano reef on a smallish budget:
>1. Research and planning.
>Figure out what you want before you get anything. One of the best
>ways to keep expenditures down is to avoid getting the wrong stuff.
>As you develop a plan, ask questions on the boards. Be willing to
>revise the plan and do more research. And be willing to accept the
>fact that your research will never be truly "done".
>2. Use what you already have.
>If you have a 10g tank, don't go out and buy a 12g Eclipse. The
>exception here: if what you have is not appropriate for use in
>saltwater, don't use it. (Example: I have a 20g long tank that has a
>piece of wood glued to the bottom -- it was a reptile tank at one
>point. I wouldn't use this tank for sw, but it's okay for fw or
>brackish.)
>3. Create a "wish list" for people who give you gifts.
>Be very, very specific. Include the brand name, model name and
>number, and any other relevant details that would differentiate the
>item you want from others like it. Include alternates when possible.
>Try to make sure your list includes some inexpensive items as well
>as the more expensive items. A tank thermometer that your
>six-year-old neice bought with her allowance savings can be as
>treasured a gift as the lighting kit from your parents.
>4. If you feel capable and have the construction tools, build some
>of the equipment yourself.
>This goes for things like hoods, stands, refugiums, sumps, and the
>like -- possibly even the tank itself. And you can create base rock
>out of Portland cement and aragonite sand.
>5. If you have to buy it, try to buy it used.
>Start with the classified forums here, and check ReefCentral,
>Reefs.org, and other places. Sometimes you can even get stuff for
>free. Also check eBay, which has around 3400 fish-related items at
>the moment. Just be careful, and watch out for shipping costs. If
>the ad doesn't say "user pays actual shipping costs", find out what
>they're going to charge you before you bid. If you decide to get
>something through eBay, start watching auctions and keeping an eye
>on how much the item or similar items usually sell for. For example,
>I wouldn't pay more than $80 for a used CPR BakPak II. They usually
>go for $50-70, depending on the condition of the skimmer.
>6. If you have to buy it new, shop around.
>Hit the major online fish and marine retailers. Some of them have
>price-matching, so if you find an item cheaper somewhere else,
>they'll give you the same price. This is helpful when one place has
>an item you need that another one doesn't, and the other place has
>cheaper prices on some other stuff. Again, watch out for shipping
>costs.
>Any reef tank can to be expensive, no matter what you do. But you
>can keep your costs down if you're willing to do the work it
>requires.
Could you please suggest which of the hobby magazines would be most likely to run an article like this?
<Mmm, yes... AFM would likely pay the best, particularly if you have images to go with... TFH will pay in advance (but not much)... and may run by early next year... FAMA will definitely take... but pay next year... If it's short (< 1000 words let's say), you might consider SeaScope... not much pay, but very wide placement (several languages)>
I'm thinking that if I can get an article on a more general-interest topic published first, I'm more likely to be able to get a more specialized-interest aka brackish topic article published later.
<You will do fine>
Thanks,
Ananda
p.s. Please keep this one out of the daily Q&As, since that may qualify as "publishing" this by some definitions of "publishing". :-(
<Allright... though the "electronic rights" issue should be separate. Bob Fenner>
RE: That article on Adding Livestock (and drygoods) sales to Svc. Rel.
Bob,
That is good. I like it very much. I will cut the check and get it right
out.
<Ah, very well>
I also would like your advice if I may. My first published article is due
out in AFM in the October issue...I am very excited about that. I have also
sold many of my manuals...enough to continue my little business venture, but
I want to take it to the next level. My questions are as follows:
1. I have submitted several article idea to AFM but they have been refused.
<Shop them elsewhere Duane. FAMA has a much wider, more applicable
audience... try Sue Steele there. If you'd like, send a "cover letter"
to her by way of me... I have had many articles placed there>
What types of articles are usually needed? My first article is about
starting an aquarium maintenance service so that was a no brainer.
<Almost any topic written lucidly>
2. What is the "norm" for payment? I will receive $250 for a 5 page
article.
<This is about "it"... FAMA pays 250 for articles and features (w/
or w/o image work) for 1500-2500 words (but you may have to wait, ask for
payment for months)... TFH about 200, plus 15-20 dollars per photo (and they pay
in advance of publication)... overseas is about the same equivalent in other
currencies>
3. How do I get the word out that I will write for hire? I suppose I can
also submit ideas to the other magazines but do perhaps there are other
outlets.
<Send a letter offering your work, perhaps with examples of what you have to
offer (with a SASE for return), asking for input... perhaps request an editorial
guideline from the 'zines first>
4. Should I actually write my articles first and then submit rather than
just submit ideas prior to writing?
<Just send the articles with graphics if you have them>
5. I would love to get my manuals actually published. My aquarium
maintenance guide will actually be well over 120 pages once these last
updates are made and that is without pictures so when I am done with a
version I really am pleased with (I never seem to be satisfied) it will be a
pretty good start. So, how do I do it? Who should I contact and do you have
to be a PhD to be considered for anything?
<No need for a doctorate... I will circulate your note about here... We are
actually a couple of small publishing interests (WWM is a media co. really, and
Anthony Calfo has ReadingTrees.com). Am sure we can help you in myriad ways...
at the very least with our opinions, experiences of "how we've done what
we've done"... if not production, sales and distribution help>
Thanks so much for the help and I hope to hire you to do more work for me in
the future...maybe a forward to my guide. :)
<I would be honored. Bob Fenner>
Duane Clark
AquaServe Aquarium Publications
Home of eFishTank
www.aquaserve.com
www.efishtank.com
review
Bobster...
How long for a book review for FAMA (word count).
Thanks for the suggestion about Reef Life. I really
like the book and am delighted to do it.
<About 1200-1400 words>
Also... my acclimatization article just appeared in
the new FAMA. Thanks for sending it in, Bud!
<Ah, good. Bob F>
Antoine
Re: Upcoming Review and much more
Dear Bob,
<Hello Jayne>
Nice to hear from you and looking forward to seeing the Surgeonfishes
review!
<It is posted here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acanthuroids1.htm>
We have two main distributors in the US and are not planning to take on any
more at the moment, but thanks for the interest!
<Okay. Pls make it known who they are if you want the review appended thus. Have listed Quality Marine for dealers, Sea Challengers for end-users as sources as you will find>
Our Marine Fish Families Series is a 10 book series, written by Rudie Kuiter
and Helmut Debelius and we are not intending to publish any other titles at
present. If you would like to get in touch with either of the above about
using your photographs then please let me know and I will pass their email
addresses onto you.
<Please do contact them re. Bob Fenner, WetWebMedia.com>
Kind regards,
Jayne
Marine Photos (magazines, writing...)
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