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Gourami question
06/15/08
Hi,
And thanks for your support and very informative web site.
I went through a quite to few trouble - try to keep dwarf Gouramis, but never
had any luck.
I love that fishes and would like to try again.
Is any of Gouramis ( smaller size is preferable) easy to keep, will tolerate pH
8.1 -8.2 ?
I really would like to have a couple in my 55g.
Thanks
Larissa
<Hello Larissa. Most of the "other" Gouramis will do well in your aquarium.
Dwarf Gouramis are uniquely feeble and worth avoiding. If you want something
similar to the Dwarf Gourami, both Colisa fasciata (the Banded Gourami) and
Colisa labiosus (the Thick-Lipped Gourami) have the same red/blue stripes. Both
are in the trade, though not as widely sold as Dwarf Gouramis. The Three-Spot
Gourami (Trichogaster trichopterus) is another hardy species, though males can
be aggressive. The yellow ("Golden Gourami") and blue ("Blue Gourami") are the
two widely traded varieties of this species. Personally I have a great fondness
for the Moonlight Gourami (Trichogaster microlepis), a peaceful, all-silver
species that looks great in a shady tank with lots of plants. It is very hardy
and doesn't become as territorial as the Three-Spot Gourami; on the other hand,
it does get a little bigger. All of these would be perfectly at home in a 55
gallon system. I hope this helps, Neale.>
No question, just a thank
you... and Colisa lalia sel. – 10/28/07
Dear Crew,
I am very new to the hobby, starting a 30 gal FW tank about 2 months ago. In
doing research before putting the tank together, I stumbled upon your web site
and have found it to be extremely informative and helpful. I believe that the
reason my fish are happy and healthy can be directly attributed to finding the
answers to any questions I had by searching for them and reading your site. I
find myself coming here everyday and reading the Daily FAQ's, even if the
question doesn't pertain to my particular situation. I have also found many of
the articles you have posted very interesting. I can't begin to tell you how
much I have learned about keeping fish since I've started visiting your web
site.
<Thanks for the kind words, and I'm glad you're enjoying the site.>
So, while I have no question for you today, I would like to extend a huge THANK
YOU to all you do for us that love our "wet pets". I have complete confidence
that if I ever have a question that can't be answered by a search , I can ask
and know that you will offer your knowledge and expert opinion, which I trust
emphatically.
<We appreciate you taking the time to pass on these thoughts.>
My little community tank:
7 Red Eye Tetras
2 Dwarf Gouramis
3 Zebra Danios
3 Julii Corys
1 Banjo Catfish
ammonia-0 ppm
nitrite-0 ppm
nitrate-20 ppm
Respectfully yours,
Jennifer
<A nice collection of fish. The only possible problems are the Dwarf Gouramis
and the Banjo cat. The Dwarf Gouramis are a fine species if healthy, but the
quality of stock is very poor, and a high proportion of specimens from Southeast
Asian fish farms are infected with an incurable viral disease. Keep an eye out
for this. Optimising water quality and providing a healthy, balanced diet will
go some way to ensuring success, but if things do go wrong, don't blame
yourself. I personally recommend against Dwarf Gouramis *unless* sourced from a
local breeder. Banded Gouramis and Thick-lipped Gouramis are, in my opinion,
better bets. Banjo cats are lovely animals, but resolutely nocturnal and often
starve to death in home aquaria. So do feed at night time, and do provide a
mixed diet not just catfish pellets. Frozen bloodworms and frozen Tubifex are
probably the ideal, but small bits of chopped seafood would be useful too. Good
luck, Neale>
Dwarf gouramis?
hlth. – 08/26/07
Hi! i was will be getting a pair of flame dwarf gouramis fo my 10 gallon. I
have done alot of research and know that gouramis catch disease very quickly. i
was just wondering what medication would be good to use when i first get them. I
know they can have internal diseases and want to get rid/prevent it.)
<Greetings. Dwarf gouramis -- Colisa lalia -- are indeed extremely prone to
bacterial and viral diseases collectively known as "Dwarf Gourami Disease" (DGD).
These are a problem because of how the fish are farmed. The odds on a standard,
store-bought dwarf gourami getting DGD is better than 50% unless the fish is
kept in soft, acidic water at slightly higher than average temperature (~5
degrees GH, pH 6.0-6.5, 25-28 degrees C). Even under these optimal conditions,
there's no guarantees your fish won't come down with DGD. It's really as simple
as this. Now, as for treatment -- there isn't any. None. Zilch. Nada. When a
dwarf gourami is infected, particularly with the viral form, well, that's it.
The best you can do is destroy the fish painlessly. There's no recovery, and
antibiotics (naturally, this being a viral disease) have no effect whatsoever.
Nor does adding salt to the tank, prayer, or sacrificing a cock at the altar of
Asklepios. Commercially-bred dwarf gouramis are, in my opinion, a total waste of
time and money. Far, FAR better to buy one of the similar but infinitely more
robust species like Colisa labiosus or Colisa fasciata. These have the same
basic colour but are about a third to a half as big as the Dwarf gourami.
Obviously they are not really suitable for a 10 gallon tank, though a mated pair
might be OK if the tank was a "long" design with plenty of floating plants. If
you really want to use a 10 gallon tank for some labyrinth fish, consider one of
the smaller Betta species (perhaps the delightful "peaceful betta" Betta
imbellis) or one of the droll little "talking" gouramis, Trichopsis spp. Hope
this helps, Neale>
Re: dwarf gouramis? Now
Trichogaster leeri... – 08/26/07
thanks so much! i might try though... what about pearl gourami?
<"Trying" Dwarf gouramis is how the Southeast Asian fish farmers get away with
mass producing disease-ridden livestock. Inexperienced aquarists think their
next attempt will be successful, so retailers keep buying them from their
wholesalers, and their wholesalers keep ordering them from the fish farmers. If
the newbie aquarists stopped buying dwarf gouramis (except from local breeders)
then the demand would vanish and the Southeast Asian fish farmers would have no
choice but to change their farming methods. At the moment, one recent scientific
study (J Go and R Whittington, 2006) found the incidence of Dwarf gourami
iridovirus in dwarf gouramis exported from Singapore to be a staggering 22%!
Since the disease is EXTREMELY contagious, once an infected fish is in a
wholesaler's, retailer's, or hobbyist's aquarium, that infected gourami will
infect all the other dwarf gouramis. Just imagine if 22% of the people around
you were infected with TB or Smallpox... how long do you think you'd be healthy?
That's why I am so adamant that the demand for Dwarf gouramis dry up, so that
this rotten aspect of the ornamental fish trade can be eliminated. Anyway, as
for the Pearl gourami -- Trichogaster leeri -- this is an excellent gourami.
It is peaceful, attractive, and very hardy. Because it is a medium-sized fish
(around 12-14 cm when mature) its minimum space requirement is for a "long" 20
gallon tank (i.e., a tank at least 60 cm long). Obviously more is better. While
it naturally comes from soft/acid water environments, in the aquarium it does
not seem to be at all fussy, and here in Southern England it does very well in
hard/alkaline water. Long lived, i.e., 5-10 years. Doesn't get "dwarf gourami
disease" and basically hardy. Hope this helps, Neale>
Re: dwarf gouramis? Now
Honeys... Gourami sel.... what's next? – 08/26/07
wow. feel bad for those poor little dwarfs! what about honey gouramis? (i
would like to stick with my 10 gallon) and also, what if the dwarf gouramis
don't come from Asia? If i ask my LFS (awesome store, very friendly, fish look
great!) if they come from Asia, they say no, the fish look good....? (i love
dwarf gouramis!!!=)so funny!)
sorry for all my questions! I want to be a good fish ''mommy''!
<Greetings. If the Dwarf gouramis don't come from Southeast Asia, then there's
less change that they suffer from Dwarf gourami disease. The ideal is if they're
locally bred (they aren't difficult to breed, so your local fish club might be
able to help you there). Tropical fish shops may be able to tell you where their
stock comes from. Many order directly from exporters in Southeast Asia, South
America, or wherever. But a lot of stores get stuff through "middlemen",
importers, and so the store might not know precisely where their livestock comes
from. If you *do* want to try dwarf gouramis, then you need to know the signs of
Dwarf gourami disease. Fish suffering from this begin by being lethargic, off
their food, and shy. As things get worse they develop ulcers and patches of
white dead skin, often looking a lot like they have finrot. Then they die. If
even one single fish shows these symptoms, then assume they're all infected. I
personally wouldn't buy dwarf gouramis EVER except from a local breeder... but
it's your money. Honey gouramis are resistant to the disease (as are most other
gouramis) BUT they are intrinsically more delicate fish. They need soft/acid
water, period. If you don't have that, they're likely to be short-lived. I
honestly cannot recommend the alternatives too highly: Colisa labiosus and
Colisa fasciata. These are easy fish that look like Dwarf gouramis but can be
practically guaranteed to last for years. Being a bit bigger they're also less
shy, and easier to tame. They're quite commonly traded, and not difficult to
find. Please look them up in your aquarium book. Hope this helps, Neale>
Re: dwarf gouramis? Sel. 8/28/07
thank you so much! I'll ask and if the dwarfs are from Asia, I'll get a
different gourami. You guys rock!
<Sounds like you have a plan. Good luck, and thanks for the kind words. Cheers,
Neale>
Gouramis? Sel. - 05/02/07
Hi Crew!
<Hello Ruth!>
I have a 15 gallon tank with live plants and wood etc. The Ph is 6.4,
the GH less than 6, the KH is 0, Ammonia 0, Nitrites 0 and Nitrates
between 10 and 25.
<Sounds a nice tank.>
I guess this is quite alkaline and soft for a lot of fish!
<It's actually a little acidic...>
In the tank are 4 Danio Rerio, 5 Cory cats and 4 Japonica shrimp (I add
Iodine 1 drop per week for these great guys!).
<Some nice fish there. Which cories do you have though? Some species get
a little large for a 15 gallon tank.>
I really want to get a centerpiece for the tank and was looking at
Gourami, maybe Colisa lalia or Trichopsis Pumila? Would these be
appropriate fish for tank size and water type?
<Definitely go for Trichopsis spp. There are two species in the trade,
and either would be nice. I have a great fondness for Trichopsis
vittatus; though not quite so colourful as Trichopsis pumilus, it is
very noisy! Colisa lalia was a nice fish but for various reasons most
stock seems to have very poor longevity.>
I'm concerned for the shrimp as I know they may be considered food by
most? Is there enough room for a pair of the said Gourami or is it
better to have, say, a single male? Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Love the site as well!
<Trichopsis spp. are generally very tolerant of one another provided
there is plenty of plant cover at the top of the tank, which is where
they like to hang out given the choice. Your main problem won't be the
shrimps but making sure the danios don't steal all the food before the
gouramis eat it. Definitely do-able, but using floating plants to keep
the danios away from the gourami feeding patches will be useful.>
Many thanks,
Ruth
<Cheers, Neale>
Adding after Upgrade
We've got a 20 gallon tank, newly established (converted from a 10 gallon tank) that has 4 black tetras, 2 tiger barbs, a golden algae eater, 2 hatchet fish, and we
just introduced 2 juvenile albino Corys. All of our fish are fairly small, the longest being the golden algae eater, about 2 inches. We recently saw some neon blue
dwarf gouramis at the pet store and thought they were very nice looking fish, but were concerned because our black tetras tend to get nippy when they see larger,
bright or shiny fish. The 2 barbs (contrary to standard tiger barb behavior) are pretty much completely oblivious to other fish except each other, and the hatchets
just hang around the top. Do you think the dwarf gouramis would have a problem in this setup or not?
Greg and Debbie
<Many tetras can be a little nippy but the Gouramis should be OK. Not sure how long since the upgrade, but wait at least a month before adding any more fish.
You should be testing to ensure you are cycled. If all is good then go ahead and add the gourami. Another pair of
Corys would be great. They like being in large
groups. Get all the same species. Don>
Osphronemus Gourami
Hi Fenner,
I'm currently located in Houston and have been looking for some Osphronemus
Gourami, but I couldn't find any. I'm not sure if you stock these fish at all,
if not would direct me to stores or farms where I can get some.
<Hmm, the true Gourami... shouldn't be that hard to source locally... even
"albino" ones... Have you checked with your local fish stores? Look up
a larger specialty one in your area and ask them if they'd "special
order" one/these for you... almost all shops have a mechanism (order book)
for placing such requests. This is what I would do... if there are troubles,
delays in delivery... they will be able to rectify it. If no luck this route,
please re-contact me. Bob Fenner>
Thank you so much, Lap
Neon Blue Dwarf Gourami
I will setting up a 15 gal tank and plan on having neon blue dwarf Gouramis
in it and was wondering how many I should have. I know that the
Gouramis are very territorial in nature and should I plan to put only 5 or 6 in
them. I will have a lot of hiding places and will solve the problem
of them beginning territorial.
<These are called "Dwarf Gouramis" but they can still get 2-3
inches long so even 5 or 6 is probably too many. The blues do tend to be one of
the least aggressive but in a 15 gallon tank, no more than 3 or 4 is
recommended. Ronni>
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