FAQs on Bichirs and Ropefish, Family Polypteridae

FAQs on Bichirs and Ropefish, Family Polypteridae

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The most common/popular Bichir species, Polypterus senegalus

My dinosaur eel (Bichir), ID, gen. 11/12/07
Hi I bought a "Dinosaur eel" from my local pet store and it is doing great eats readily etc.... but I wondering if it can match up with any other fish because he seems a bit aggressive and I want to have more variety in that tank.
Whenever I feed him blood worms he grabs onto them and thrashes around crazily until its all down. Also I was wondering if a small convict cichlid (1.5 inch) could go with him. Or any other fish that could make a pair. Also it is only a baby, (4 inches) and I realize it will get much bigger. I was also wondering if I should feed it anything else besides high quality flakes, brine shrimp, and bloodworms. Maybe some feeder guppies? thank you.
<I'm curious precisely what fish you have. Dinosaur Eels are typically Polypterus species, also known as Bichirs (a word for which the correct pronunciation has been lost in the mists of time). The most common species in the trade is Polypterus senegalus, a uniform grey-pink fish with a whitish underbelly. It gets to about 30 cm in length. The other common species is normally called Polypterus palmas by hobbyists but may in fact be any one of a handful of similar species. It's mottled grey above with a yellowy-white underbelly. Again, maximum size is around 30 cm. The only other fish I can imagine this is would be Erpetoichthys calabaricus, the Ropefish or Reedfish. This is a very eel-like animal with a green body and orangey underbelly. Maximum size in aquaria seems to be around 60 cm, but wild fish approach one metre in length. Unlike the Polypterus species already mentioned, this is a "schooling" fish of sorts, and rarely does well kept singly. Keep in groups of three or more specimens. By contrast, Polypterus species tend to be snappy, and in some case outright hostile towards one another. All three of these fish are good community fish when kept with animals too large to eat. Cichlids, catfish and medium sized barbs and tetras will work well. Anything too small (guppy-sized) will be eaten. Erpetoichthys calabaricus is very peaceful and shouldn't be kept with anything aggressive, or it becomes shy. There are some other species of Polypterus in the trade, include some very mean and aggressive ones that are normally kept alone (e.g., Polypterus Bichir and Polypterus ornatipinnis). But those species are relatively uncommon. Fishbase is a good site to visit if you are having problems identifying Bichirs. Do a search for "Polypterus" and look them over. The Polypteridae is a small family, so this won't take long. All three species mentioned here feed primarily on invertebrates, particularly insect larvae. Bloodworms and mosquito larvae make excellent staples. None needs feeder fish, and for all the usual reasons you shouldn't use feeder fish unless you are breeding them yourself. If you want to give them live foods, then the correct food items for these fish are earthworms, mealworms, river shrimps, Gammarus, and the like. But since they hunt by smell, live food is redundant. Anything that smells right will be eaten. These fish adore frozen prawns and other seafood, chopped into smallish chunks. As usual with nocturnal hunters, only put small amounts in the tank each night; too much food makes it difficult for these practically blind fish to locate the food because the smell will be everywhere. A 15 cm Polypterus only needs a two or three chunks of prawn about the size of your fingernail, or a single cube of bloodworms. Hope this helps, Neale.>

My dinosaur eel... Polypterid gen. – 11/14/2007 Marco's go
Hello,
<Hi.>
I am an experienced fish keeper with 4 tanks of my own. And in one tank I have a "dinosaur eel" and that is what the store I bought it from said it was. The problem is I can not find a Latin name for the little guy and need to find out more.
<Have a look here: http://www.fishbase.org/identification/specieslist.cfm?famcode=31&areacode=&spines=&fins= Each picture will lead you to a description and more pictures. Should be possible to find the scientific name and give us something to work with. Dinosaur eel is just a general name that may be used for any of the Bichir species and others. Also read http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm and http://www.wetwebmedia.com/BrackishSubWebIndex/taxonomy.htm >
Right now he is only 4 inches and I know he will get to about 12 inches.
<How do you know if you do not know the species?>
He is in a small little 5 gallon eclipse and is as happy as a clam.
<Tank too small… produces lots of nitrogenous waste and will be poisoning itself.>
When it comes time to upgrade the little fellow I am going to purchase a 15 gallon.
<Still too small… for any Bichir.>
And since he only roams around the bottom I was wondering if there are any compatible fish for the little guy.
<Depends on the species and personality of the fish. Cichlids and catfish of adequate size can work, but you will need a larger tank first.>
I know he is aggressive because when I feed him his favourite foods (blood worms) he goes crazy and attacks it and thrashes around. If you don’t know what this "dinosaur eel" is I don't blame you.
<I’m glad to hear that.>
I can give you some description. It is a Bichir and has a white under belly and a fanned out tail. Its head also looks kind of like a lizard. the back colour is sort of whitish brownish.
<Please have a look at the site linked to above and properly identify your eel. If it is mottled white and brown compare it to pictures of Polypterus ornatipinnis.>
Thanks for your support and I love your site it has helped me a lot.
<Good to hear. Thanks, Dinosaur Marco.>

Polypterids 5/8/06
Thank you or your informative article on polypterids. I recently purchased one from the LFS who didn't know all too much about them. With a bit of my own research I decided to get one of the Senegal Bichirs for my Jack Dempsey tank.
<Mmmm, not a good mix potentially... do keep your eyes open here>
I was very worried they'd eat him up, he's the most expensive fish I own lol. Either way, Your article had great insight to its behavior, dietary needs and what I should expect from it in the future as it crawls the bottom of my tank.
Thanks again, Great article!
//Blair
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

Sick Calamoichthys... no info. - 08/05/06
Hi I had a question about my ropefish, It doesn't seem its able to sink. He's always at the top and when he tries to go down his tail wont let him, so he
just stays up floating. Is there a way to fix this?
<Can't say with the lack of information presented>
Thank you for your time.
<Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Poor English <NNS?>, killing a Ropefish 8/3/06
I

had a question regarding my ropefish.
<What happened to it?>
I bought a couple of weeks ago, ive
been feeding it feeder fish either guppies or minnows.
<Not a good idea...>
I think one of the feeder fish probably had ich or something
<Bingo>
cuz my ropefish got it. ive
<I've>
been medicating with Maracide
<Products are proper nouns, capitalized...>
for the recommended time and then used Maracyn 2 also as recommended. but he still broke out again so this time I but him in a
separate tank and rededicating with CopperSafe. ive also noticed that he always at the top of the tank,
is there any reason for that?
<Yes, being poisoned by the Copper>
ive seen other ropefish and the always at the bottom. and when I bought him he was at the top. is he sick or something can it be fixed? Thank you for your time.
<Please fix your English before sending it to us... And read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwsubwebindex.htm
search out the articles, FAQs files on Ropefish, Ich, Copper use in FW... Bob Fenner>

Marbled Bichir repro. 7/22/06
Hi, this is Kiel speaking and I have a breeding question. In the near future I'm getting a 55 gallon tank, and I'm planning to try to breed my Marbled Bichir pair. I have learned everything I need to know about breeding them, except what size they breed at. I really need your help on this.
<Likely at eight inches (20 cm.) or so... Please see here: http://fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=2386
see the linked topics below, the reference to Baensch and Riehl?... Bob Fenner>

Ravenous Ropefish, or Sick Cichlid? - 06/01/2006
I sent you the picture of the ropefish last week, and I was wondering if they are aggressive towards their tankmates.
<Mm, no, not typically.... Though they will be capable of consuming slow, small, or bottom-dwelling critters that are not too big to consider as food.>
I had two African Cichlids in a 40 Gal, and I introduced the ropefish about a week ago. I woke up this morning and one of the Cichlids (about 2"), was dead, and the ropefish was chewing on him. I was just trying to figure out if he could have killed him, or if something else caused the death of the cichlid.
<Likely something else, unless this ropefish is quite large.>
The cichlid seemed a little listless for a couple of days, then seemed to be a lot more energetic, was eating more, and then suddenly he was dead. He had started staying in the same area as the ropefish for the last day or so. Just trying to figure out what is going on, as if there is something wrong with the water, I want to fix it before I subject others to it.
<Definitely test for pH, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate. Also remember that African cichlids are territorial and can be aggressive to one another. One last thing to keep in mind, African (Malawi/Tanganyikan) cichlids and Polypterids have quite different requirements for water. I would not consider keeping this mix; Polypterids tend to prefer water with a pH of 7.0 or below, whereas Malawi and Tanganyikan cichlids require a pH closer to 8.3 or so, which is just too high for Polypterids.>
Thanks you so much! Nick

Polypterid ID - 05/29/2006
I was just wondering if you could identify the little guy for me. He looks like a ropefish, but my LFS says it's an eel.
<Is a ropefish, Erpetoichthys calabaricus. More info on this and other Polypterids here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm Some common names for this animal may include the word "eel" (rope eel, dragon eel....).>
Just hoping I could get an ID from you guys. Hope the pic size is OK.
<Good enough to tell you there's no doubt in my mind of what he is.>
He has these "spines" the sit down on his back, and kind of rise every once in a while.
<They're very neat fish.>
Thanks! Nick
<Glad to be of service. -Sabrina>

Polypterid ID - II - 05/28/2006
Sorry, but I just shot you an email with a couple of pics of a fish. What would you say an animal like this should retail for? I understand if you don't have a definitive answer, just looking for a ballpark figure.
<Can't rightly recall of the top of my head, but as these are relatively common in the trade, I'd imagine not more than 10 to 12 US dollars in my area (California), maybe slightly more elsewhere in the US.>
Thanks, Nick
<Wishing you well, -Sabrina>

Mixing Crayfish And Bichirs 4/09/06
Hi, thx in advance for answering my question. I have a 40 gallon tank with (1) 4 ½” Australian blue crayfish, (2) gold Gouramis, (2) pearl Gouramis, (1) Bala shark, (1) Pleco. I would like to make a Bichir the final addition to my tank, but of obvious reasons there may be a clash between my crayfish and the Bichir. Do you have any thoughts on how this setup will work? Sincerely Chad
< The crayfish will try to eat the Bichir at first depending on the size of each. As the Bichir gets bigger there will come a time when the crayfish will molt and the soft new shell will leave the crayfish vulnerable to attack by the Bichir.-Chuck>

Dying Ropefish - 02/25/06
Hello, I just bought two ropefish a couple of days ago. I got their tank all set up and then went to work, when I got home about 12 hours later I noticed
that one of my Ropefish was lying on its back on the bottom of my tank. It was in fact dead. I fished it out and noticed that it's anus was bright red
as if it had been bleeding. My other Ropefish was still fine. I thought the problem might have been with the water, the temp was about 78, ph was 7.0, I
had hard water, low alkalinity, and no nitrites or nitrates. I have never had any fish die like this and I'm a bit troubled that this one died. So
anyway, The day after my first Ropefish died I checked my tank and the second one hadn't moved, so I poked it and it started swimming around, but
it only turned to the right and it was doing these barrel rolls as well, something just didn't look right. Then I noticed that it's eyes were clouded
(they weren't like this when I bought it). Now it pretty much only moves if its prodded by me or the other fish. Would have any suggestions as to what
might be the problem?-Thanks, Elliot
< This is a stubborn bacterial infection that has killed many ropefish. Oxolinic Acid works great on this disease. Unfortunately it is difficult to obtain for the average aquarist and is expensive too. Try Kanamycin or Nitrofuranace. Do a 50% water change, vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Treat as per recommended on the package. After treatment you need to add carbon to the filter to remove any excess medication. When the medication is gone to need to get the biological filtration going again so I would add Bio-Spira.-Chuck>

Improved English, poor behavior <Ropefish rant> - 02/27/06
 So, I see that you have more than enough time to read your e-mails and respond to them...God forbid that you can actually help someone with a problem with their fish!
<<Countless people are helped here everyday.>>
I did not realize that your site is here to make you look good and have the ability to look down on someone for their grammar and refuse to give an honest answer that may actually help people better care for their fish based upon their e-mail not being suitable to your liking.
<<It is not that your email wasn't to the first responder's liking, but that it gets frustrating having to re-write emails with proper capitalization and spelling. All that was asked of you, was that you re-write it and re-send it, as there are many people who need advise.>>
By the way, I used my Yahoo spell checker before I sent my e-mail to you and it still was not good enough for you!
<<Again, it was not a matter of quality of your email. I do not think it is too much to ask that when writing to us (all of whom are volunteers) that your letters are written properly, so that they need-not be re-typed. Many people, from all over the world, read this site, and language is very important for ease of understanding.>>
I thought your site was awesome! Until I actually needed some information on a rope fish that I need help with which, by the way, I read all of your posting's before I e-mailed you and exhausted all means of information available to me before asking this of you.
<<Appreciated>>
You say you do not have enough time to read all e-mails sent to you and respond to them but yet, You have the time to send all the criticism in the world if I AM NOT AN ENGLISH MAJOR!
<<I'm sure it wasn't meant that there is no time to send out all emails, but that it is time consuming, which is fine, but any help we can get from those writing in, makes it easier to reply in a speedy manner to all.>>
I am American born and raised and anyone, and I do mean ANYONE that speaks English could read my e-mail that I sent to you AND understand EVERY word that it contained!
<<Not all that read here are American born, but again, it's not that your email was unreadable, but not suitable for posting as it was at that time.>>
My eight year old even read it and understood every word of it! But yet, you have no time to help but rather criticize what you feel to be proper grammar. EXCUSE ME! I refuse to ever visit your web site EVER again and intend to tell this to every person that I come across as well as my local pet stores which, couldn't tell me what is wrong with my rope and wanted to know your response to help them with their knowledge in the future.
<<That's too bad. I am sure if you had sent it back corrected, you would have been quite please with whomever responded to you.>>
I originally planed on making a donation to your site because it seemed to be extremely help full when people actually needed help with their fishes health.
<<It is quite helpful, yes.>>
Well, no help here!!! As far as my rope fishes health it has gotten no better but a little worse since I e-mailed you initially. But, Obviously you don't give a sXXX.
<<Of course we do, that is why we take the time to do this.>>
So long. I will not bother you or your uppity, uppity class of loser any more! Dan
<>

Dissatisfied Ropefish Response ... Chuck's go - 02/27/06
Dear Sir or Madam, I am writing about concerns with our previous correspondence. It has come to my attention that it was difficult for your staff to understand my question. Hopefully this can be resolved, but yet again my question remains unanswered.
Dan.
So, I see that you have more than enough time to read your e-mails and respond to them. God forbid that you can actually help someone with a problem with their fish!
I did not realize that your site is here to make you look good and have the ability to look down on someone for their grammar and refuse to give an honest answer that may actually help people better care for their fish based upon their e-mail not being suitable to your liking. By the way, I used my Yahoo spell checker before I sent my e-mail to you and it still was not good enough for you! I thought your site was awesome! Until I actually needed some information on a rope fish that I need help with which, by the way, I read all of your posting's before I e-mailed you and exhausted all means of information available to me before asking this of you. You say you do not have enough time to read all e-mails sent to you and respond to them but yet, You have the time to send all the criticism in the world if I AM NOT AN ENGLISH MAJOR! I am American born and raised and anyone, and I do mean ANYONE that speaks English could read my e-mail that I sent to you AND understand EVERY word that it contained! My eight year old even read it and understood every word of it! But yet, you have no time to help but rather criticize what you feel to be proper grammar. EXCUSE ME! I refuse to ever visit your web site EVER again and intend to tell this to every person that I come across as well as my local pet stores which, couldn't tell me what is wrong with my rope and wanted to know your response to help them with their knowledge in the future. I originally planed on making a donation to your site because it seemed to be extremely help full when people actually needed help with their fishes health.
Well, no help here!!! As far as my rope fishes health it has gotten no better but a little worse since I e-mailed you initially. But, Obviously you don't give a sh*t. So long. I will not bother you or your uppity, uppity class of loser any more! Dan
<All questions go to a general inbox. From there they are sorted out in categories like Marine, Freshwater and Brackish. Once they are in these categories crew members from around the country check in a any given time and respond to these questions. Generally the questions should be checked for grammar and spelling before they are sent. This is fairly easy request because all computers have these functions. It is up to the individual crew member to decide if the grammar is too poor to respond. We may get up to 100 questions a day. Sometimes the question is not very clear. Occasionally we don't even know what the question is. Crew members are all volunteers and we try to answer as many questions as we have time for. The more time we spend correcting grammar and spelling, the less time we have to answer questions and help to keep organisms alive. Questions that are properly written almost always get answered first. I personally answered your question about a ropefish and the response was posted on the website yesterday. You may have written another question that I am not aware of, and it was answered by another crew member. Have your local fish store start treating their ropefish with Oxolinic Acid as per my previous response. Hope things go better next time.-Chuck>

My Ropefish lost his nostrils!! 2/3/06
I have had my Ropefish for about 4 years now. He/she has been great. A couple of weeks ago his tank mates (an Oscar and large Pleco) died of I'm not sure what. He seemed fine until his nose got very red and raw. It went from red, to white, and then to normal. The only thing is his nostrils are gone!! will they ever grow back?
Thanks for any help.
>> Likely you had high ammonia, which killed your other fish, and burned the nostrils off your rope fish. They will grow back.

Ornate Bichir 1/31/06
Hi Robert,
I'm a big fan, your website has served me very well and kept all the fish I've ever had alive and well. I'm going to purchase an Ornate Bichir to put in my 55 gal. I plan on putting it into my QT tank for at least a month before adding him to the larger tank. The 55 gal has been up and running for several months now, it's planted and uses a Fluval 304 and a Penguin 350 BIO-wheel for filtration. All I have in it right now is a Pictus Catfish about 5 in. The guy at the fish store told me I cannot put anything else in a tank with an Ornate Bichir including other Bichir/eels and catfish. In your professional opinion do think that an Ornate Bichir and a Pictus Cat will get along or should I find the Pictus a new home?
Thanks a million,
>> Hello Phil,
There are hundreds of species of fish you could keep with an ornate Bichir. They are not aggressive fish, so the only think you have to keep in mind is that they are predators. They will swallow any fish that fits in their mouth, including your pictus cat if he is too small. Good Luck, Oliver

Polypterus predation 1/31/06
I just stumbled across your site today. Very informative! I have dabbled in aquaria for many years, had a fledgling maintenance business (more like a hobby playing with other people's money as I knew nothing of business at the time and learned a great deal about aquaria and business at my expense).
I have often thought of having a good sized aquarium (2-300 gal) well planted, and stocked with feeder white clouds and Neons in large quantities. I wasn't sure if the Polypterid would be able to easily capture these small quick fish or not. I guess it's the evil side of me that likes the idea of the normal response of "Gee, look at the pretty fish" followed by "What the heck is that thing?" as the Polypterid eats one of their pretty little fish. That and I just love the primitive look of the Polypterids and lungfish. Any suggestions (that don't include psychiatric help)? I noticed don't recommend UG filters for Polypterids. What is the reasoning behind that? I have typically used UG's with penguin powerheads and have had good results. Would that create too much current for them to surface and breathe?
>> Dear Allen, These fish eat at night when the barbs and tetras sleep. so they will have no problem eating them at all. Except you will not see it eat most of the time. Other than that it will work fine. Lungfish especially also eat some snails in nature, so you may want to consider that as well. UG filters are not ideal because these fish may uncover part of them, and that would make them useless, I would recommend a strong powerfilter instead.
Good Luck, Oliver

Polypterids 10/3/05
Hi there,
I'm Rohaizat from Malaysia, which country are you from ?
<The U.S., in Hawai'i currently, but have visited your country... Pulau Redang, KL, various places in Sabah>
Your article was very informative as I found from wet web media.com. How many species of these kind do you have.
<None currently, but have had four I believe>
I have 4 of them just like those in the pictures. But a friend of mine had a foot long ornate Bichir
<Wow, big>
where mine is only 5 inches. Where can I find more info regarding this fishes, if you could help.
<Mainly large, public/college libraries>
I would like to send you their pictures later if you like.
Have a nice day, anyway.
Bye...
Rohaizat Roosley
<Thank you for writing, sharing. Bob Fenner>

Packin' In The Polypterids - 08/24/2005
Hi
<Hello.>
I've just acquired the two fish above,
<Polypterus ornatapinnis and P. lapradei>
both are approximately 9" and healthy looking specimens. They are in a 48 x 15 x 18 tank

with a few catfish and a school of 8 convict cichlids as well as 2 small (4-5") senegalus.
<Four Polypterids.... in 55 gallons.... Not a great plan.
All the fish are healthy, greedy eaters, apart from the two new Polys. I've not seen them eat yet after being in the tank for almost a week,
<Were these two quarantined prior to introduction?>
the senegalus are greedy eaters, constantly looking like a bag of marbles and I was assured the ornate and lap where greedy too.
<Likely they are being prevented food by the existing P. senegalus, despite the difference in size.... Possibly fighting/getting stressed after dark....>
I've tried offering lance fish, live earth worms, blood worm, prawns and catfish pellets, I've offered food in the day and at night when the lights are out as they are nocturnal fish, but I've still not seen them eat.
<There is serious conflict here; these animals very likely will not coexist with any semblance of peace.... One or all may end up killed as they age/grow.>
Any suggestions on what to do?
<Remove the two newcomers, and when the two P. senegalus (still quite small) begin to grow and show aggression toward each other, remove one. The only Polypterus species I've heard regular accounts of peaceful groups is P. palmas.... and even still, ALL Polypterids get too large in the long run for a 55g tank. Much to think about, here, I fear.... I do hate being the bearer of bad news. Please read here for more: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm .>
Kind regards, Ashley Etchell
<Wishing you and your fishes well, -Sabrina>

HELP! My rope fish is ill and I don't know what to do! 8/9/05
Hi Bob,
<Terry... your msg. was sent in HTML, your spelling... is this an intentional insult?>
I was wondering if you would be able to help me (I took you email from WetWeb media).
I have a rope fish who up to a couple of days ago was fine.
About 2 days after I did a water change on my tank (1/3 of the total water volume)
<Too much... please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwh2ochgs.htm
and the FAQs linked at top>
the rope fish began to swim around the tank quite aggressively in loops, after which it began to float up side down. It is still alive and if it does swim it rights itself, but it seems to be struggling to keep at the bottom of the tank, so now just floats.
I wasn't sure if there was a link to me cleaning the tank, so I repeated the water tests (nitrate, nitrite, total hardness, Ph, temp) and all seemed fine.
<Toxified.... likely with the sanitizer (chloramine) in your source water>
Any help would be most appreciated, I don't know what to do.
Thanks for your time
Terry
<At this point, not much to do... perhaps add a bit of aquarium salt. Also discussed on WWM. Bob Fenner>

Ropefish scale loss 7/29/05
Hi, we had 2 ropes in our tank now we have 1. We have had them both for about 1 year they have been a pleasant part of our 55 gallon tank.
<Neat animals>
We also house 1 fig.8 puffer, 2 lace catfish, 2 yoyo loaches, 2 clown loaches, 3 skunk loaches, 3 gold killies, (black skirt, serpae, lemon and black neon tetras), (gold, rosy and tiger barbs), 2 pair Kribensis, 1 pair Apistogramma verstrefen, and a couple small Plecos.
<... these fishes have very different water chemistry preferences...>
 The ropes have done very well for just over a year. Then suddenly they started losing scales in patches. I do regular water changes (every 2 weeks about 25%) the first one died 2 days after scale loss started, the second hadn’t lost as many scales, but he is approaching the point that the first was at when he passed. Neither rope showed any signs of appetite loss and the remaining rope is still eating well.
<What is it eating? My first, best guess of the base "cause" of your problem is nutritional>
The first one only started showing signs of distress as loss progressed. Stayed at bottom and so forth but during last 12 hrs he swam erratically like he wanted out of the tank. Ph is at about 7.0, I use easy balance once or twice a month to keep balanced. Nitrate levels are below 40,
<Better below ten>
and nitrites are at .1,
<Should be zero>
total hardness is at 75, and total alkalinity is at about 160. Any possible answers or suggestions?
<Mmm, well, from what you've stated...>
 My husband and I both love these lil guys and it is rough watching them go down so fast. I have treated with Melaleuca,
<Worthless>
and quick cure (Formalin, Malachite green).
<Too toxic>
 No signs of a fungus. Help please. Thanks, Dee
Catch ya later. TTFN D.C.
<Please read re these medications utility, danger... on WWM, do look into more/better filtration, more frequent water changes, and make it known what you're feeding this Ropefish. Bob Fenner>

Re: rope fish scale loss 7/31/05
Just found out that our water dept is having a food grade oil leakage into the water that is being sent to houses and are making repairs to water system next week.
<Interesting>
Figure this is what caused the problems with our ropes.
Wish I had known earlier would have used distilled water in changes. We feed everything from Frozen blood worms, frozen krill and beef heart, to live ghost shrimp and red wiggler worms.
<Very nice>
 List the other rope today though and they were soo cool. no one else seems to be affected by any problems, but I have done a 40% change with distilled water and will do another tomorrow to prevent any more problems till after the water wells are fixed and the towers are purged.
Thanks for the speed of your reply. just wish I'd known about the water problem 3 days ago.
<I want to share a "similar" instance with you... once coming back from the Interzoo tradeshow, on a train to Frankfurt, I got into a conversation with a freshwater fish exporter from Nigeria... and one of his principal "products" was Ropefish... he shared with me a difficulty they had in capturing same (with native labor, plant extracts)... in that the fish would develop "loose scales" and perish in great numbers, from over-exposure... On arrival, outfits I have worked with, did something irregularly with this Polypterids, and poured/saved their shipping water in with the standing systems... to prevent chemical shock... a tough species nonetheless. Bob Fenner>

Oh no! Maybe it wasn't dead!! Ropefish, the lack of utility of "vacation feeding blocks" 6/29/05
Hello, I'm writing on behalf of my husband. He's really the aquatic enthusiast. I've spent the last hour or so reviewing your site and reading over the BichirFAQ's. Before I get to my dilemma, I want to commend you on a spectacular and informative site.
<Welcome>
Also, I am glad to see someone demand better grammar in their postings. This is the first time I've ever taken the time to post on any site as I am usually quickly turned off by the sheer volume of grammatical errors.
<Me too... err, I as well!>
My husband and I were on vacation about two weeks ago and had my mother in law come to feed our pets. Because his mother would not be able to feed the fish for the first weekend we were away, we purchased a 7 day feeder for the fish.
<Mmm, most of these are bunk nutritionally... as well as caustic to water quality>
He has a Bala shark, two bottom feeders, and two other semi-aggressive fish, but I'm not sure what they are. Until we went on vacation, he also had a rope fish approximately 12 inches in length. This was by far my favorite fish. A few days into our vacation, his mother called and said that the fish appeared dead. She said it was floating on the top with its head down and the fins were not moving.
<Perhaps just "natural behavior">
After reading the information on the site, I am astonished at what hardy fish they are! I am afraid that my husband's rope fish was not in fact dead, but simply ill. Is there anything you can tell me that would indicate if this was the behavior of a sick rope fish?
<That it did not move at all... would not respond to the top being lifted, being prodded... That (ultimately) white, reddish marks occurred on its body>
Tragically, she removed the fish from the tank and disposed of it, so it's too late now to save it, but we are trying to replace it and wouldn't want to have a repeat performance. I was hoping you could tell me the likelihood that the feeder was the culprit.
<It was at least a contributor, I agree>
The feeder made the water very cloudy. We changed the filters right away and this seemed to remedy that problem.
We usually fed it frozen bloodworms and pellets. Is it possible it didn't like the new food and starved?
<To some extent, yes>
The other fish all seem unscathed.
<They likely just went w/o food as well...>
My husband is very upset because he has only lost one fish in over two years. He also changes the water and vacuums about once a month. Thank you for your help.
Danielle
<A lesson learned re "feeding blocks"... I will post your input... know that you have saved many other organisms through your writing. Thank you, Bob Fenner>

Sick Rope fish
Hello, We have set up a tank in one of our classrooms here with three rope fish.
The third day we had the fish I noticed that one had a thin red line on its head. Progressively, the line has turned into a nasty patch with white edges that has covered the fish's eyes and is moving to the body. We have been trying to find out what this is and how to treat it. We are not having much luck. You are the only place I found any reference to the red marks and patches. We would appreciate any reply, good or bad news. Thank you!
Kristen Self Program Development Education Department Birmingham Zoo
<Your rope fish probably has a bacterial infection brought on from a bite or scrape with one of the other fish. The red is a bacterial infection and the white fuzzy stuff is a fungal attack. Do a 30% water change and vacuum the gravel and clean the filter. Treat with Nitrofuranace or Erythromycin.-Chuck>

Senegal Bichirs/s
Hi there my name is Jason from Auckland, New Zealand, the other day I bought a couple of Senegal Bichirs and I was wondering if there is any way of telling if they are short body Senegal or normal ones, they are about 4inch.
<Mmm, I am not aware that there is any more than just the one species: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm>
The pet shop that I bought them from told me that they were lung fish but after searching the web for these fish I found that they are Bichirs not lung fish, and that there are short and long body types. Are you guys able to help? Cheers.
<Please see the above link, and read about the family on Fishbase.org
Bob Fenner>

New armored Bichir
 First and foremost, kudos on an amazingly informative website. Easily navigated, well maintained, and chock-full of great ideas and tips.
 I acquired a 100gal. tank with cabinet base and canopy a couple of years ago. It was in pretty bad shape but with a lot of sandpaper, stain, acrylic scratch remover, and elbow-grease it is an eye-catching addition to my home. I initially started a cichlid tank but quickly realized I was way in over my head. Unfortunately, this cost me a couple of hundred dollars and approx. 15 innocent fish their lives.
 I decided to go with a semi-aggressive community tank, after a couple of months of mourning, of course.
 After establishing the tank again, I have slowly accumulated:
 4 Bala sharks 2 Kuhli loaches
 1 silver dollar 2 Gouramis
 2 rainbow sharks 1 upside-down catfish
 1 Chaetostoma (Rubberlip) 1 mystery fish (girlfriend)
 and 1 new armored Bichir.
 I love the Bichir but he doesn't seem to be eating. I have tried frozen blood worms placed directly in front of him as he is too slow to compete with the other quicker fish (as I'm sure you know) but that didn't take. He does seem to like the floating cichlid pellets I had left over as long as I drop them directly in front of him, however, I am hesitant to let him get used to these.
 After perusing your website, I noticed that many offer their Bichirs beef heart. My main questions are: 1) How often should I feed him? and 2) What size/amount chunks are best? (He is a young'n at only about 4-5 inches)
 Also, on a side note: I have two large porous lava rocks in the tank that have been 'infested'? with a light-green covering, finding the majority of it where there is no direct light. It doesn't seem to have any ill-effect on water quality or the fish but I was still just wondering. <Just an algae. Nothing to worry about.>
 I'd appreciate any response and apologize in advance if I missed the answer to these inquiries in the various FAQ's.
<Good info on this oddball here. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wetwebmedia.com/
PolypteridPIX/Polypterus_delheziAQ.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wetwebmedia.com
/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm&h=142&w=200&sz=6&tbnid=BQFcPersbSMJ:&tbnh
=70&tbnw=98&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Darmored%2Bbichir%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff Hope this helps. Don>

Ropefish
I live at college and all we're allowed to have is fish, so I decided to bring my tank with my Ropefish and a few others. Recently, my Ropefish escaped during the middle of the night.
<Very common... aquatic Houdini's...>
I'm not entirely sure how, because I felt that I had covered the tank very well, but needless to say, I've now closed practically every square centimeter of the tank.
Anyway, when I awoke in the morning, the janitor came by and said "Hey, did anyone lose a lizard?" I followed him to a closet where he had it sitting inside an empty Gatorade bottle (Poor thing). He was sitting in a circle, so I had to cut open the bottle to let him out. I immediately put him back in the tank, where he struggled for a while to remove some
whitish residue that had been building up around his head and part of his body. Now though, he just sits at the top of the tank in a half circle, with his head and tail end pointing downward, and his midsection partially out of the water. Though it has only been a little under a day since I found out about this, it would like to err on the side of caution, particularly because I can't stand to see an animal die, especially on what it most likely my error. If you have any recommendations that you could give me, I would greatly appreciate it.
<I have seen many Ropefish incidents as you cite... among them my own. I would leave the animal as it is for now, and hope that it recovers (many do). If yours develops red sores and/or obvious fungal (white, mycelious) patches, I would elevate the system temperature (to about mid 80's F.) and prescribe an anti-microbial (likely a Furan compound). Bob Fenner>

I Didn't Mean to Call You a Bichir! Another lesson in how Not to Punctuate
Sorry to bother you but I don't know who else to ask.. I have this Bichir who looks very swollen.. from bellow the head to the mid fin.. it has been swollen for weeks now, I have 3 more Bichirs in the tank that are doing fine.. I have a 55 gal thank.. it seems to be ok except for the swelling.. it seems to have gone bigger too in the last couple of days.. I've had that Bichir for more than a year now, at least 1.5 years.. I attached a picture so you can see what I mean.. thanks for your help.
< You need to get some Metronidazole ASAP! This bloat situation can be cured if it is caught early. It usually happens in cichlids mainly Tropheus and some lake Malawian fish. I think it is stress related. Big fish are messy eaters and generate a lot of waste. It is easy to let the wastes build up in the tank and get out of hand unless you do some water changes. If your fish is still alive you need to do a 30% water change now and treat the water for ich. A Formalin-malachite green medication will work. Add a hand full of rock salt too. Look for the Metronidazole at your local store. Check the ingredients for it. It may not be labeled as such. Treat the entire tank with 250 mg per 10 gallons. Use a little extra and use 6 tablets. Remove any carbon from your filters and if you have a Marineland filter with a BioWheel then remove it and place it in a plastic bag with some aquarium water in it. Leave it open and don't let it dry out. Do not treat on the second day and repeat day number one on the third day and every other day until the fish is cured. If the fish dies then watch the others closely in case they don't eat. If they don't it means that they are sick too and need treating. I got this cure a few months ago from another website. The website is called JDTropheus.com. They deal strictly with cichlids in the genus Tropheus and this cure does work. Good Luck.-Chuck>

A Thank You
Hello WWM Crew,
within the following page, concerning to your pages, a person called Chuck gave a very helpful answer to a question concerning a problem that now also occurred in my tank. I successfully saved my Bichirs using the tips published on your website. I want to say Thank You to Chuck for
his help, so I want you to give me his email address. Sorry, If I did not notice any contact formulas of your page, but I got to your page by using a German internet search engine, so maybe I did not get the full frameset of your page.
The URL of the page is:
www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bichirfaqs.htm
Thanks a lot for your answer.

Greetings from Germany, yours
Dr. D. Groll

Reed fish anatomy
Hello!
<Hi there>
I'm writing a biology report about the reed fish, and I found your website about Polypterids. I was wondering if you would bee so kind and help me with some more information?
<I'll try>
Do you know anything about the reed fishs anatomy? drawings/pictures/descriptions would be great! (it is very difficult to find information about that)
<Don't know of any "popular" books that have such information, graphics. Can you get over to a college library? Do visit and ask a reference librarian in the biology/zoology area for help finding this information>
I also wonder why the fish have not develop in so many years. how did they get "lungs" ?
<I suspect they "started out with them"... that is that the simpler condition in less advanced fishes is a physostomous one.... where the swim/gas bladder is "open"... has a valve to allow gas in/out (rather than physoclistous)... and that conditions favored the open one... developing into a vascular area for respiration>
Thank you weary much for taking your time to read this, I hope you will answer me.
With best regards
Ida Marie Jenssen
Norway
<Good luck in finding your information. Bob Fenner>

Senegal Bichirs problems
Hi all, I have / had 2 Polypterus senegalus 1 may have committed suicide.
<Senegal Bichirs usually are survivors given the proper living conditions. Though they are known for jumping out of a poorly sealed tank. They need quite a large tank to keep them happy.>
I know they go after anything they can fit in their mouth but, would that also include one of their own if it is smaller then the remaining 1 thanks.
<Senegal Bichirs are carnivorous critters. They feed on live foods and dead meaty foods such as earthworms, mussels and silversides. They do show aggression to their own species, especially if you don't give each fish a cave or something they can hide in and call their own. It's not out of the question for one of them to attack and kill a competitor... Though, none of the ones I have worked with in the past had killed and eaten another Senegal Bichir.>
Dave
<Hope that helped.-Magnus>

Where to find Ropefish
Hi,
I work at a vet and there we had a Ropefish, it recently died. At my home we just recently got a 55 gallon tank. I was wondering where is the best place to purchase another for work and for myself. We are located in New Jersey and no one at work seems to know. THANK YOU
<hi there, I would talk to you local fish store, they usually have them on their list of fish they can order for you. They probably know the best place to find the Ropefish, and it would probably be less expensive then ordering them from online sources. If you can't get one through your LFS, then LiveAquaria.com often times have Bichirs (Ropefish) for sale there. -Magnus>

Re: Ropefish
Hello,
I'm sorry, I just realized that I had typed "Bichirs" in your email... I must be staring at the screen to long. I meant to say your LFS can find them under the name Reedfish or Lobed snakefish. Their Latin name is Erpetoichthys calabaricus.
Also, I had found that these fish do best if kept in groups. So, if you have a tank that can handle a couple of these monsters (30+ inches full grown) then I suggest you put them in together.
-Magnus

My new Clown Knife & Ropefish
I just purchased a Clown Knife (about 6"). I put him in a 25 gallon hex with a Rope fish and they seem to be doing fine. I've been told that both can grow quite large. Do you think they'll be ok or should I return them.
<Return them....
My clown knife grew to a length of 25 inches long! It is now living quite comfortably in a 650 gallon tank... It was originally living in a 150 gallon tank but outgrew that! The clown knife will reach 18 inches long in about a year and a half, this fish will NOT be able to live in a 25 gallon tank.
As for the Ropefish (Erpetoichthys calabaricus) These fish will get over 36 inches long as adults... and require a 90 gallon tank. So, that to will not be able to live in a 25 gallon tank.
I suggest you do some research before purchasing fish, there are many fish that will do quite nicely in a little 25 gallon tank. Many of them are just as interesting as these fish. Trust me it's no fun having a fish that is in a tank to small for it. These fish are sick all the time, and you have to constantly be changing the water to keep up with the waste output. Good luck. -Magnus>

Ropefish troubles
Hi
<Hi, Pufferpunk here>
I have a Ropefish which seems to be having a problem with buoyancy. He always used to lie at the bottom of the tank and swim around the rocks, but for the last 4 days he has trouble submerging, and seems to float around the surface. He wraps himself around the heater and filtration unit to stay down. I haven't noticed any bloating, but he had been suffering with flukes and is now at the end of the "Sterazin" treatment period. Could the treatment have caused the buoyancy problem? Will he recover properly?
<Sterazin appears to be toxic to several species of fish. I would do a 50% water change & filter w/fresh carbon, to remove all traces of meds. Try feeding w/live black/Tubifex worms (well rinsed). That will clean out any intestinal blockage it may have. Nutritious too!>
Thank you for your help,
Kerri
<You're welcome--Pufferpunk>

Bichirs Breeding? 7/11/03
Hi, I have a question on how to breed Bichirs. I have two of them, one male, and one female. my question is what size tank should I use, and is there any "tricks" to get them to breed. also what water qualities should I have. any other information would be much appreciated. Thank you
,regrettably, I am not aware of captive commercial propagation of these fishes (naturally v. hormones). Will post on the daily FAQ page for feedback from our readers though... do check back for the next couple days by reading the FAQs. Best of luck! Anthony>

Bichir gill growths
Hi Bob,
I'm the guy that owns the 17 inches ornate with a torn left pectoral fins. Thanks for your reply.
In between, I forgot to tell you that a juvenile ornate specimen of mine have 'red color horns' that resembles the Chinese saint animal 'dragon'. The 'horns' grow from inside the gills and go upwards. And the 'horns' grows as the fish grows. I had never seen anything like this before.
No doubt it is BEAUTIFUL, but I am worried that it might be some disease or similar.
<Not likely. Especially if this fish is small/young... they have growths that come out of their gill areas then. Bob Fenner>
Rgds, Uix

Torn Bichir fin
Dear Dr. Fenner,
<Just Bob, please>
Please help me. I own a ornate Bichir which is now currently 17 inches. I love him dearly. Last night, the left hand side of the pectoral fin of my Bichir was torn! Left with only the muscle part, the rest of the fin is gone! I am not sure what happened....... Dr., will the fin grow back in time??? Please tell me.....
<Sounds like either a tremendous injury (did the fish get stuck somehow?) or an aggressive encounter with a tankmate. If the injury isn't too deep the fin will regenerate. These fishes are tough. Bob Fenner>
thanks
Uix

Please help Yoshi (a Bichir)
Hello, my name is Erin. I have been active in the fish hobby for awhile, with two 30 gallon tanks, one 10 gallon quarantine tank, a five gallon, and 12 Betta bowls. I would like to address in issue that has arisen.
<Wow!>
I have had a fire eel, Astral, a Polypterus delhezi, Yoshi, in a 30 gallon tank for around 3 months. They seem to be accepting each other just fine and share the same hang out spots for nocturnal fish. Astral is about 6-7 inches in length, and Yoshi is yet a baby at only 5 inches. Both take in a several ghost shrimp a day without hesitation, and Yoshi loves his beef heart cubes. I just got in my ornate Bichir and was shocked to see him already close to 9 inches and quite girthy. I have another 30 gallon set up with African cichlids, but the tank with Astral and Yoshi is the one with the eclipse hood. Have you ever known an ornate Bichir to prey upon an Armoured Bichir of smaller size? I would hate to lose Yoshi in such a way, he is a great fish. Thanks for listening, and I hope to hear back from you. Erin.
<Unfortunately, the ornate Bichirs are reputed to go after others of their species so a mix isn’t advisable. Ronni>

Ornate Bichirs nostrils
Hi,
I would like to know does the tubular nostrils of a Bichir grows back in time it happen to be bitten off by cichlids?
thanks
Rgds
Louis
<If not bitten too far back, yes. Bob Fenner>

Ropefish
Hi,
I just recently bought 2 rope fish. When I paid for them there were 3 in the tank and they were all about 5"/6" long, 2 days later I picked them up. One was about 9" long and its belly is orange and its top is a brown/blackish color. the other one was still about 6" long and has an orange belly but its top is sort of an olive color. Does this differentiate sex?
<Not as far as I know. More to do with size/age>
I tried looking up the sex on fishbase.org, but I don't really know anything about fish so the information didn't help me any :(
If you can help I would really appreciate it.
Thanks
<Six inch specimens are small for this imported species. Bob Fenner>

Adding to Bichir Tank
Bob,
Now that I have the Bichirs in their own tank, is there any other fish that would be compatible with them?
<Umm, yes... other African fishes from the same regions. Please see fishbase.org are the species you already have, and WetWebMedia.com re freshwater fish groups. Bob Fenner>
Dave Siecinski

Ropefish head pores
I was checking out my roper and noticed some very small holes (pores) along the sides of its head. These seem to be symmetrical and don't look bad. Are these normal for Ropefish or is mine diseased?
<Good observation. These are lateral line pores... part of a low vibration sensory apparatus of fishes. Unless they become enlarged, infected (likely not here) there is nothing to worry about. Bob Fenner>

Bichirs
Hi
I recently just found your site. I had a few questions about Bichirs before I go out and buy them. I currently own a 20 gallon freshwater tank. The only current resident in that tank is a freshwater moray. I have added some aquarium salt to the tank to alleviate any problems he's had with breathing. I'm currently interested in turning this tank into a brackish water tank and was wondering if Bichirs can cope with brackish water. Also, what is the most active Bichir you can recommend as I've heard the ornate Bichirs are very very shy. Are there any other fish that would do well with these two species? Oh and do you recommend any equipment for a brackish water tank? Thanks for your time and I think your website is great. Peter Kim
<Hi Peter, Thank You for your comments on the site! I would encourage you to keep fish in conditions that they are evolved to.
Bichirs are freshwater tropical African fish. FW Morays are a Freshwater/brackish/marine species. I would also be concerned with keeping any of these species in a 20 gallon tank. Please type in "freshwater moray" into the google search at WetWebMedia.com and also see: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm to read about Bichirs. Take note of the water chemistry warning! Craig>

Ropefish setup question
Hi Bob,
<Hello Bryan>
I somewhat impulsively purchased a Ropefish (Erpetoichthys calabaricus, ID'd thanks to your excellent page on Polypterids). The folks at the pet store told me that he ate regular tropical flake food (which I was skeptical of but I guess I really wanted to fish) I've had mixed success raising fish that require live food in the past.
<Yes... I'd like to see the people who told you this live on flake food for a while>
Anyway, not knowing what to do, I bought some cubed freeze-dried Tubifex. He doesn't seem terribly interested in these, even when I hold them in front of his face. I wedged them under some rocks and they stayed put for about 20 minutes before floating. I don't want to just leave them in there if he's not going to eat them.
<Not likely to accept... You might try some earthworms if you can dig them up, buy them from a "fishing store", or mealworms... or chunks of cut up beef...>
So my question is, can you describe a setup for feeding these guys? Are we talking live worms in a feeding cone?
<Larger worms, cut meats (once accustomed to the latter they take same with gusto>
 Is it best to feed them at night or in the morning?
<Toward dark is best>
 Do they prefer their food near the surface or at the bottom?
<The bottom>
 Is there anything I can put in the tank in the way of habitat (pipe, whatever) that might make him happy and ease the feeding situation?
<Like plants, driftwood, perhaps a bit, length of plastic pipe>
Any help you can render will be greatly appreciated by me and, I presume, my Ropefish ;)
Happy holidays!
<You as well my friend. Do try the live worms, mealworms (larval beetles) for now... training the Rope on to cut meats. Bob Fenner>
Bryan

Ropefish
Hi my name is Crystal and I hope you can answer my question. My brother has 2 Ropefish, 1 is a couple of months old the other he just got about a week or 2 ago. The one that he just recently got is lying on his back... he/she is still breathing but just lying there. could you possibly be able to tell us what is going on??
<These fish can have difficulties resulting from their capture, shipping... Best to leave them at the store for a good week or two before buying...>
The store he had got him/her from told me to get him to put aquarium salt in the tank because he/she might be having digestive problems. But this person said they knew quite a bit about Ropefish but doesn't know to much about their anatomy's because according to him the only time a fish would be on their backs and still alive is if they have a bladder infection and he doesn't know if that could be a possibility for Ropefish or not because he doesn't know if they have a bladder.
<They and their relatives, the Bichirs do... it is connected to the throat, and ventral to the esophagus... Please see here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/polypterids.htm>
so I thought you could help me on this problem and I really really hope so.
<Do check on continuing water quality... the behavior of lying on their back is not good. Bob Fenner>
Thank you for your time.

Ropefish Problems
<Hello, JasonC here filling in for Bob while he's away diving.>
My Ropefish got out of its tank a couple days ago. <they are very good at this...> It was only out for a little over an hour before I discovered it. <ok> when I did I rinsed it and put it back in. Now the Ropefish is very inactive and seems shy. Is this normal? <probably a little traumatized, after being stuck to the carpet.> I thought at first that it might need some time to adjust back but it has been over two days! Also there seems to be a long tear on its bottom extending from near the head to its tail. <ouch!> I think this might be damage incurred when it escaped. <perhaps...> Any suggestions curing it and do you think that this is the reason for its immobility? <will have to "cure" on its own if it's going to.> It is also not eating when I feed it. <Bob's advice on huger strikes with these is to offer a live earthworm or mealworm - http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bichirs.htm > Before it escaped it used to respond to feedings (I feed it bloodworms), now even when I put the food in front of its nose it won't take it in. Just lays there still. <again, your assessment that it is taking it easy due to the injury sounds correct here.> How should I get it to eat and is that a normal behaviour after they escape the tank? <try those live worms.> I really don't want this fish to die so any help is greatly appreciated! Thx.
<No problem - do check through that link. I do hope your Ropefish makes a speedy recovery. Cheers, J -- >

BICHIR
I would just like to ask on how you can tell sex in a Bichir? thank you
<Mmm, please read over the materials stored for the family (Polypteridae) posted on fishbase.org
Bob Fenner>

Polypterus palmas
do u know where I can buy a Polypterus palmas or Polypterus delhezi? and do u know how much they cost?
<These Bichirs ought to be available from your local livestock fish stores... maybe as special order items. These are amongst the more commonly readily available species. Otherwise, I would shop around the not-so local e-tailers WITH the input of actual hobbyist users opinions. Perhaps start with our chatforum: http://talk.wetwebfotos.com/
(ask where, reputation...) and the annotated list of suppliers on our Links Pages: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/links.htm
Cost for Palmas should be in the $30 U.S. range, Delhezi about ten, fifteen dollars more... plus shipping and handling if ordered distally. Bob Fenner>

Reedfish repro.
Another quick question, if I may... Have reeds ever been bred in captivity?
<Not as far as I'm aware. There are some captive and wild reports of Bichir species spawning>
I have one male and two females and I think I may give it a go sometime in the next few years by simulating flooding and moist clay banks.
<A worthy experiment. Life to you. Bob Fenner, who has met folks who have businesses wild-collecting the species, had them himself.>
~Ben

Reedfish, Ropefish, Social Animals
A note on your article on the Polypterus that appears at http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bichirs.htm Reedfish, though Polypterids, prefer to be kept in pairs or groups.
<Agreed. Will check the piece and amend. Thank you for your input. Bob Fenner>
~Ben

Ropes and Dragons
Robert,
I have a 45 gallon freshwater live plant setup. PH7.6 Hardness apx10 Ammonia and nitrite at zero. I recently purchased two new rope fish and a Pleco (I think that's what it's called).
<Mmm, maybe a member of the family of mainly South American Sucker Mouth Catfishes, Loricariidae: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/loricariids.htm>
The two rope fish died within two days and a day later the rope that I've had for 6 months died.
<Not unusual to have new Ropes bring in disease, stress... Our coverage of this and the related Bichirs: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bichirs.htm>
Then last night my small dragon Goby died. The ropes got the "glassy" eyes and discoloration before they died and the Dragon lost a lot of weight and showed a large white section on it's tail before it died. So far the other inhabitants haven't shown any problems; they are: a larger Dragon Goby (about 6"), two Bala Sharks, 1 Clown Loach, 1 Pleco (algae eater), and several neon tetras. I did a 20% water change and filter maintenance after the first two died and I've been running my Diatom XL (normally for polishing only) a couple hours a day. Any possibilities you can offer will be greatly appreciated.

As a side note. I have already purchased a cheapy 10 gallon setup to use as a quarantine tank in the future.
<Good idea>
You might also be interested to know that the fish came from Pet (not so) Smart.
<Yikes...>
Thanks Again
Tom Peterson
Kissimmee, Fl
<Sorry to hear of your trials and tribulations. Steady on my friend. You're moving in more positive directions. Bob Fenner>

Re: Ropes and Dragons
Robert,
One more thing I just remembered. The day after the two rope fish died the water became cloudy, that was my initial reason for setting up the Diatom filter. Also, I use a Fluval 204 with just the foam and bio pellets. (No carbon)
I hope you're able to help. I'm really not enjoying the kids reaction and the mortality lessons it forces me to give.

Tom Peterson

Compatibility
I've had a Bichir 4 about a year now, he's about 10" long and have recently purchased a Amphiuma for the same tank. he's nearing 2' and seems aggressive to everything but the Bichir. (he ate a gar already) should I be worried or might they leave each other alone?
<I would be/am concerned... the Amphiuma (an amphibian to those out there browsing) will indeed at least try to eat the Bichir... if it has eaten a Gar (family Lepisosteidae)... I'd move them to separate quarters. Bob Fenner>

Polypterus ornatipinnis
Dr. Fenner:
Hi. I've had 2 Bichirs together for almost a year in a 30 gal tank.
The biggest one used to attack the small one for a while but both survived. I also have a horn Plecos and a Gourami. Three days ago I bought a 40 gal long tank so my Bichirs could have more space since they are getting huge. The big Bichir is about 8" long and since I moved them to the new tank the smallest has been attacking him to the point of bleeding. I'm very frustrated. Could you give me any advice if there is something I could do or if I should separate them????
Juliana

Re: Polypterus ornatipinnis
Thank you for answering my email. I'm in the process of setting up the second tank.
Juliana
<Ah, good to read/hear. Have seen some great Polypterids around the world in Public Aquariums... some that they've had for decades... and even saw a Bichir on a cemetery wall in an ancient Pharaonic setting in Egypt years back... one of my favorite groups of fishes. Bob Fenner>

Ropefish
Help.....I have had a ropefish for 3mths now... I have no clue how to properly take care of it. I am really not 100% it is a rope fish... (can you send a picture)
<They're pretty distinctive, will post one on our website's article on their family (Polypteridae: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bichirs.htm
Give me till tomorrow>
It is acting very strange... one sec it is floating or sinking very still and it does it for some time then it swims wildly for 2or 3 sec.s... then back to floating or sinking for a period of time.. is it dying?...
<Probably not... many Ropefish (Erpetoichthys (formerly Calamoichthys) calabaricus if memory serves) perish from the travails of collecting and shipping initially... but you've had yours three months? It's likely just "checking things out" or even respiring and resting at the surface... they're facultative aerial respirators...>
I was told at the Pet Supermarket that it was a ropefish... it looks like the description on the web page. I have feed it what they told me . Tropical flake food and Freeze Dried Tubifex Worms. This is what we were told.. Please reply.. and no he does not have any bused areas marked areas and the tank is very dull... no other fish.. just it. and a piece of pvc pipe at the bottom covered in rocks so he can swim thru it... please e-mail me at yahoo.com or at hotmail.com thanks >
<Be chatting, Bob Fenner>

Polypterus
I'm interested in raising Polypterus but they're one of those obscure species the folks at the pet store aren't able to tell me much about. I've been reading online for info and yr page has been incredibly helpful.
what I'm thinking about purchasing is either p. palmas or the armored Bichir, as both those are available to me. (the ropefish is a little too big for my tastes and personally, I don't like it aesthetically...) which is the smaller of the two and what would be the minimum tank size requirement if I were to just keep one specimen in the tank with no other fish?
<Polypterus palmas would be/is my choice. At a foot maximum length it is amongst the smallest of species of Bichirs. A twenty gallon long (30 inches long) would be the smallest of systems I'd suggest.>
also, since these are able to breathe air, am I able to get away with just a bubble stone and one of those small whisper aerators, or do I need an elaborate set up?
<Not really elaborate, but more shallow and well-filtered nonetheless... The former to ease aerial access, the latter to account for their meaty foods, messy habits. I would utilize a good outside power filter (at least a large size hang on the back power type), and take pains to cover any/all spots where the animal might escape... The family is notorious at getting out of their glass houses.>
anything else you can tell me about the basic set up would be great. the food information on the page was informative as well as the community/conspecific interaction.
thanks, -Ming >
<So much to say... Get hold of Gunther Sterba's freshwater aquarium and diversity books and read about the "many fins"...
Bob Fenner>

Polypterus
I have a few questions on the ornate Bichir. What kinds of foods do you recommend feeding them?
How long is there lifespan? How large do they grow? What the water temperature should be and the PH?
Thanks,
MIKE >
Meaty foods of appropriate (mouth) size. The Polypterus I used to keep I mainly fed larval beetles (meal worms etc.), earthworms (oligochaete), and cut meat like cubes of beef heart.
This species (and others) live several years... the biggest ornatissimus I've seen is about eighteen inches. Some other Polypterids grow to more than two feet in length. Low seventies to low eighties F. is about right temperature. pH about neutral is best in my opinion as their water tends to go acid (which it is in the wild) with aging.
Bob Fenner

Polypterus
Dear Mr. Fenner:
I'm very interested to acquire some Polypterus but I don't know where can I found some photos of them biotope, because I love the "biotopical aquariums". I have a 450 Liter aquarium, a 2500 liter/hour external filter. How many Polypterus can I breed in ??
Thank you for advanced:
Xavi
Well... if really interested... would encourage you to do something in the way of a scientific literature search. You're welcome to the input about such searches posted on the site: Home Page ...
Otherwise, an old, but still valuable source is Gunther Sterba's works on freshwater fishes. Do a look-see through the "used" book sources on the net for these.
Bob Fenner

Ornate Bichirs
Hi,
I've been planning to keep an ornate Bichir have a forty gallon tank do you thing that would suit one. Do you know if you can keep water dogs or mud puppies with them.
Thanks, Mike
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I wouldn't mix amphibians with the Bichir... they're quite messy and too much competition for bottom space...
Bob Fenner

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