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Crab Identification: Fiddler Crab – 10/15/09
Hi :)
<Ah, bonjour Marie, Lynn here today!>
I received yesterday 2 little red crabs from the Philippines and I'm not
sure what they are because of the eyes. I think they may be fiddler
crabs...
<You’re right. The overall shape/length of the stalked eyes and sharply
pointed carapace seem to be fairly common within the semi-terrestrial
fiddlers in the genus Uca, family Ocypodidae. The closest I can find is
a photo of something alleged to be Uca arcuata (see this link:
http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/canopy/5280/philip.htm ).
Unfortunately, I can’t confirm the ID. Either the color/pattern varies
quite a bit (as shown at the above link) or they’re different species
entirely. Apparently, in the Philippines, these are mainly
mangrove/shallow water/intertidal crabs that make their burrows in the
mud and sand. Interestingly enough, I’ve seen a similar species being
offered for sale on the internet, listed as a “Red Burrowing” crab in
the genus Uca. >
..even if they don't have the oversize claw... maybe they're female.
<Yes, my thought as well.>
I sent you a picture, maybe you can help me with this identification.
<I sure wish I could give you a solid ID to species level, but there are
just too many possibilities and not enough available information on the
‘net and within my research books.>
I don't want to give bad information to my customers.
<Good for you! I wish all merchants were this conscientious!
Unfortunately, I have to add that these little crabs should not be kept
in a fully submerged marine system. They’d do much better in an
environment more closely resembling they’re natural habitat (mixed
land/water). For more information on this group of crabs, please enter
the terms (Uca or fiddler) into our Google search engine
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/Googlesearch.htm). I’ve seen several posts
regarding solid red fiddler crabs with reports of them being very
reclusive. Apparently, once added, they tend to burrow/hide and not come
out much. In Barnes’ Invertebrate Zoology (sixth edition, pg. 717), it
states that tropical species of this genus “tend to be active only
during diurnal low tides”. That’s not a whole lot, even in the wild!
Also, they’re still crabs and basically opportunistic, so hobbyists will
need to keep these well fed to discourage picking/killing of desirable
livestock.>
Thank you
<It was a pleasure, Marie.>
Marie
<Take care, LynnZ>
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Fiddler crabs in sea water... Not 11/08/07 Hi there, I am trying to set up a fiddler crab tank for a high school research department. I've seen a lot of references to the brackish water these crabs need - <And land... most are only part-time aquatic, if then... live in/on mud and sand> but the crabs we have were taken at the beach. Should they be in pure seawater? <No... land/sand... with some water to moisten themselves> Currently the water we are using is from the same beach we found the crabs, but I'm not sure if this is an optimal condition. Any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank You!! Andrea Beatty <Andrea... "Woman of the sea"... fitting name, eh? Bob Fenner>
Answer to a mystery query (FW crab) 8/26/05 Bob: <Actually, Sabrina with you, today> In answer to Sabrina's question about the "red crab" on http://www.wetwebmedia.com/swcrabidfaq3.htm from 8/13/05, I believe I have the answer. <My question?? Oh - OH! I see. Yes, that was in reference to the surrounding entries ("Mystery Crab") that I was helping Charlotte with.> I too bought what the LFS was calling a "fire crab" (or so it sounded with his slightly different accent from mine) for my nano. I tried Googling this and found nothing. Mystified, I posted a pic of him on reefcentral.com <I would love to see this image, if you can grab me a link. If it IS an Uca/fiddler, I might be able to get it closer to a species, for yah. Not necessarily likely, but there are some great references on the web.> and still everyone was baffled. It was when I went to a different LFS that I realized what it is I and others are buying: A female fiddler crab (my LFS who I thought was saying "fire crab" was actually saying "fiddler crab" but pronouncing it "FIDE-ler" and I misunderstood him). Some LFS call them red crabs. Again: orange, 1", walks sideways, black eyestalks, burrows in the sand. <Does indeed sound like a fiddler/Uca sp., as far as burrowing goes.> Mine has proven to be totally reef safe, hiding about 99.9% of her life. I've seen her for maybe a total of 60 seconds in 3 months! The females do not have the typical fiddler chelipeded and so look like something else. <Correct/agreed.> The problem with this is that fiddlers are supposed to be given a land/water environment, as they live in muddy mangrove patches and near the shoreline. Unfortunately, a few seem to find their way into the reef trade, and unwitting people like me and Sabrina wind up with them. <Mm, again, 'twasn't me.... "I just work here" <grin>. Though I do have a couple fiddlers.... but mine are in a large sandy terrarium with a 2g saltwater swimmin' hole. They seem to be doing quite well.> I'm sure she'd be happier in a terrarium, but she does just fine it seems in my nano reef. <If possible, you might consider setting up a land crab system. You wouldn't believe how much fun they are.> Hope this helps! <Thank you very much for this! And again, I'd love to see an image of your crab, if possible.> Alex <Wishing you and your firely FIDEler well, -Sabrina> | |
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Fiddler Crabs
I have a 55 g. marine aquarium with 45 lbs. LR. I was recently given a VERY
surprise present of a fiddler crab. I've never seen one of these mentioned
in any marine article.
<On our site: http://wetwebmedia.com/swcrabs.htm>
What do they eat?
<Meaty bits of this and that>
Will they harm my fish (I am
planning on a tank of blennies, gobies and other small fish) or invertebrates
(snails, an emerald crab, and fan worms)?
<Slow, sedentary to sessile invertebrates may be in trouble if your crab gets hungry...>
And how will I keep this guy
happy?
<Need to have a place to get out, dry a bit... and cover to hide in, reharden their exoskeleton during molting events. Bob Fenner>
Thank you very much for your time.
Mike Rathwell
Fiddler Crabs?
Hi. Thanks for all your previous help in the past, both directly and through
the creation of this site.
<You're welcome>
My problem is this. I have a 35 gal tank that I
added 10 Trochus and 10 Astrea snails to about a month and a half ago. Since
then they have slowly died off to the point of about six. I find many
upside-down on the sand bed, and, up until now, I had thought they had fallen
off the Live Rock. However, I had failed to realize that I had been given a
"gift" of a Fiddler Crab about two weeks prior to the addition of the snails.
<The "Trojan" gift crab...>
At least that's what it was called, and it looks like one (has the eye
stalks, but doesn't have the one, large claw--I'm assuming this is because
its female. But the Bad News Bears and Walter Matthau taught us what happens
when one assumes).
<Well put>
After the addition of the Fiddler, it disappeared for
months and I believed it to be dead due to lack of a place to dry out.
However, a few nights ago I found it out and crawling around the rocks. My
questions are these: Is this crab causing the demise of my snails?
<Maybe... are their bodies missing?>
Will it
hamper my plans to add more invertebrates (mushrooms, leather corals, star
polyps, feather dusters, shrimp)?
<Maybe... I would pull it>
If it is...then how do I get rid of it
because I haven't seen it except for that one night? Please excuse the long
email, and thanks very much.
Michael Rathwell
BTW Kingsley from Aquarium Arts in Phoenix says hello.
<Ah, say hello back for me please. I would "bite the proverbial bullet" and drain, take out the rock... and remove the crab at this point. Luckily a thirty five gallon is not "that big". Please see here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/movingaq.htm
re input on "moving" aquariums, about the same list of steps, tools, materials as you'll be doing. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Fiddler Crabs?
Thank you again. The snails did have their bodies removed, but could this
have also been from decomposition?
<Not that quick... a few days...>
In response to your moving idea, could a
trap not be rigged up with a little bit of bait?
<Yes... a few types described on our principal site: WetWebMedia.com>
I have seen these mentioned
on various internet sites for the removal of pesky bristleworms, violent
Mithrax crabs, and other things. Would this sort of thing work for Fiddlers?
<Possibly>
Seeing as how the residents of my soon-to-be mini-reef are only 2 red
Firefish, 1 smith's blenny, 1 featherduster, and 6 (numbers slowly declining)
snails the moving shouldn't be a problem, but I would rather not mess with
restarting a tank (thoughts of re-cycling and ammonia spikes sicken me,
<Shouldn't have to be recycled... just put back what was in there... including much of the "old" water>
especially when only 1 week away from putting in the first corals). And to
think...all of this work for a $4 crab! Thank you for your advice and help.
Michael
<Be chatting. Bob Fenner>
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