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LTA Husbandry...
Hi,
<Hello! Scott F. with you today>
I love your site and have learned so much. I just wish I could
remember it all! Perhaps you can help with a concern I have. I
bought this anemone yesterday and was told he was a Long Tentacle Anemone. It
was all white when I purchased him. Is that ok? Should he have
color?
<Well, most LTA specimens that I have seen display some color. Your
specimen looks really white to me, but it is probably normal coloration or
this particular specimen...Do continue to observe it carefully to make
sure it has not been overly stressed during transport and
acclimation...>
His pedal and column were not scratched or torn and are a pinkish color.
He was open and all tentacles were extended. I got him home and put him in
my tank. He kind of settled in for a few minutes and I thought this was
going to be an easy task. Well within an hour-or-so he started
walking across the substrate.
<This is a relatively common occurrence with anemones of many species;
they will tend to "wander" about the aquarium until they locate
a desirable location...You just need to make sure that you don't have too
many hazards around the tank that could prove a problem>
He is in no imminent danger because I had turned off the submerged power
head and put foam on the intake to my Fluval 304 and hanging power filter.
<Good moves!>
He settled in next to some live rock the last time I checked before going
to bed. His tentacles were taking on a bright green and blue
color and he looked quite nice. When I awoke this morning he
was buried in between the rock and receiving very little light. I
removed some of the rock and gently
moved him back to the substrate. He settled in again and is looking really
good. Now, one hour later he is back against the rock. I'm
sure by the time I'm done with this email he will be back in-between the
rock. I have attached a pic hoping it "sheds some light" on my
descriptions. I have read the FAQ's and I am taking it that I should just
let him go and he will settle where the light and current is best for him.
<You hit it on the head! You will invariably cause the animal more
stress by constantly relocating it...Let the animal settle in a place in
the aquarium that suits its needs, not yours! 90% of the time, the anemone
will settle in a place that satisfies both of you, however- so give it
some more time!>
How long should I give him to settle before starting to worry?
<No set time table, but I'd give it around a week or so, and even then-
it may "pack up and leave" if the site it chooses is not to its
complete liking>
How long should I wait until trying to feed him?
<I'd wait about a week...give the animal time to settle in first>
Specs on my tank: 29 gallon, 2 65 watt CFs, BakPak 2
skimmer, Fluval 304 and hanging BioWheel power filter. My tests
are all zero with nitrates being 5-10.
<Good...Keep the water quality impeccable, and the lighting intensity
extremely high. A larger tank would be a very good idea down the line, for
a lot of reasons...>
Any help and advise would greatly be appreciated. Blake
<Well, Blake, just keep an eye on the animal; let it settle in on its
own, and maintain the best possible conditions, and it will be happy for
many years to come. Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
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A Friend To His Anemone!
First of all, I want to say that this is hands down the BEST resource I have
found for saltwater enthusiasts. period.
<Glad you enjoy the site! Lots of hardworking WWM folks give their best to
make it a great place for us all! Scott F at your service today!>
Shortly after getting my first tank "going", like many other novices I
had the great idea of getting an anemone for my clownfish which the local fish
store vehemently supported.
<Bummer....>
This was unfortunately BEFORE I had the chance to read about anemones on your
site... in any case it is in the tank, and I am going to make the best of it.
<That's the right attitude...And it's probably better off in YOUR tank than
in the LFS, believe me...>
Particulars are as follows:
I have a 25 gallon tank in with: 1 maroon clown, 1 yellow tang, 1 flame angel, 2
small damsels, and a long tentacle anemone (no other
invertebrates).
<You know I wouldn't let that go without the mandatory warning about this
being rather overcrowded, at least for the long term...I know that you'll be
considering a larger tank in the near future, right...? 'Nuff said>
Water quality / parameters are good, all fish are active, eating, and seem
healthy. I have about 2.5 watts of light (marginal I realize) per gallon,
anemone is just less than 10" from 50/50 light source.
<Well, it's not too bad...In close quarters, the lack of intensity can be
supplemented somewhat by proximity to the light source, at least in the short
run>
After reading your various articles on anemones, I have been watching for
everything to start going wrong, but the anemone "looks" healthy. I
guess even if it wasn't I couldn't tell anyway in the earlier stages, but the
one thing I have noticed is it does not seem to have eaten yet (two weeks), at
least not anything I am feeding it. I have tried small frozen shrimps (cut to
smaller pieces) and silversides. The anemone seems to have found a place it
likes in the tank and dug in nicely. It closes up shop at night, but opens
nicely during the day.
Tentacles are sticky (stingy) and full of water, mouth is shut seemingly tight,
and color looks good. Is this eating / lack of apparent eating normal? How long
do I wait?
<Well, the idea of meaty marine foods is a good one...I'd keep experimenting
with a variety of food items to induce the animal to feed. Don't give
up...Different species react differently to food and other stimuli- so hard to
generalize...>
Should I be putting any additives in my tank for anemone or / and fish (there
are no other invertebrates besides the anemone)? I heard iron and iodine maybe?
How much?
<I would not worry about additives...In a small tank like yours, with lots of
life, I'd use aggressive water changes as my "supplement". If you
could perform two 5% water changes a week in this tank, and run aggressive
protein skimming, you'll be doing a great favor for all of the
animals...Anemones really like lots of light, and pristine water quality...Keep
up the diligent husbandry techniques...>
What are main signs to look for indicating anemone is on "the way
out"?
<Usually, lack of expansion (like a "loss in pressure" of the
animal, if you get what I mean), expulsion of lots of mucus or other waste
materials, and general lack of healthy appearance...you'll know when it's headed
south, believe me!>
Thanks in advance, Michael Micha
<My pleasure, Michael...Hang in there- with continued effort on your part,
you can make this animal thrive! Good luck! regards, Scott F>
- I Wish I Were a Clown Fish -
<Hello, JasonC here...>
I have fallen in love with the anemone. I wish I were a clown fish. I have a 55
gal aquarium set up since December. I bought a beautiful bright pink anemone at
the pet store but I believe it may have been sick when I got it. I don't know
much about them accept they are beautiful. It had its mouth open very wide when
I got it and was not filled out but the tentacles were deflated. I didn't think
much about the tentacles but the gaping mouth did bother me. There was very
little light in the aquarium so Even though I felt it wasn't in the greatest
condition I bought it. I was in love with the color. It perked up for a few days
after I got home but then it went into a decline and died. I confess I cried. I
saw a picture of one like it in the Dr. Foster Smith catalogue on their invert
food page. I called them and they said it was a Condy. But I thought They were
white with pink tips. The one I had was like the picture bright pink all the way
down its tentacles and it had a bright red orange base. When I got it the pet
store called it a purple long tentacled anemone. But the pictures I see of the
purple Long tentacled all are quite dark. I wish I had gotten a picture of it
before it died. But at least I found wet web media. Since I was so
worried about it I did a google search and Have been pouring over all your info
since. I wish I knew then what I knew now.
I also read a lot about the Mandarin fish. I got one and I am now worried about
how long it will live. I wish they had told me at the pet store that their diet
was so restricted. I've Had mine about 4 months and he seems to be picking
things off of the rocks but now I am so paranoid that he will run out of food
and die. I would never get anything that I thought would die because I could not
take care of it. I always ask these questions" Will it get along with my
other fish?" and " what does it eat?" I know they told
me brine shrimp. <Bad answer.> I have a 7 gal tank in another room and
have set it up for salt water. If I got a culture of the copepods or whatever
those little things are could I grow enough to keep the mandarin alive?
<Doubtful.> I don't want him to die and The pet store here will not refund
my money in fact he would have a better chance if I tried to help him. It's a
shame he was taken out of the ocean. But I will do all I can to keep him
healthy.
I'm sorry for rambling so. I was just wondering about my critters. <Well...
you know now, never buy anything without doing the research into their captive
care first.> How many anemones can I have in a 55 gal tank. <It's my tendency
to say none - anemones can live much longer than humans, but very rarely make it
to a year in captive conditions. If you really love anemones, you should learn
to dive and go see them where they live. In their natural habitat, they are infinitely
more beautiful and captivating that they could ever be in captive conditions. If
you persist in your desire to keep an anemone, please continue your research
into lighting and system requirements before you add the anemone.>
Jeri
<Cheers, J -- >
Free Anemones?
I hope you get this real soon cause I was just at
pet store and there
were some rocks from Fiji that had Anemones on them. Some were brown and some
were Green. They were rather flat resembling the flower anemones. Are
these
the Anemones that are bad or good. I wanted to buy some more rock but the
girls in there did not know if those were the kind that can take over your
tank and kill everything. The tentacles don't look like they get very long.
The brown ones weren't very pretty but the green ones were very beautiful.
The rock was covered with them. My mom wanted me to buy it and get free
Anemones with the rock. The green ones tempted me they looked like flower
anemones. But even though they don't look like the Aiptasia I am
nervous
about purchasing the rock. Thanks for your input. Jeri
< They are probably a type of pest anemones called
majanos. I wouldn’t buy this rock unless you know that they are not
a pest, which is unlikely. Check here to see if you can find them:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/aiptasia/aiptasia.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/otherpstanemfaqs.htm
Cody>
New Anemone Husbandry
Hi, My name is Sue. We have a 72 gal bow front salt water
aquarium that just finished its cycle period. We are very new to this hobby but
want to give it our best shot. I have been doing a great deal of
research on line and love your website and liveaquaria's too. This is
why I want to get your opinion.
<Well, I'm glad that you find it helpful! Hopefully, I can be of
assistance...>
We added 2 clown fish, one anemone, 1 sea urchin and 3 snails to begin with. We
have 3 live rocks with shells and other rocks throughout the tank. I
have several questions:
1.Anemone was doing great yesterday and this morning. Then we
looked and it was shriveled up and lifeless looking. A few hours
later, it seemed to start to come out of it. Was it sleeping? Is
it hungry? Is this normal?
<Not sleeping, but this is a relatively normal behavior for an anemone that
is acclimating o a new environment. There is a loss of turgor as a result of
shock. With proper conditions and time, the animal will "come around",
as yours did>
2.We have a coral life 50/50 bulb which our LFS recommended for
this tank. How long should we leave it on? We have heard many
opinions from 8-12 hours.
<This is the correct duration, but the real important issue for anemones is
intensity. In a typical aquarium, a single fluorescent bulb is simply not
adequate for long-term success with most anemones commonly found in the
hobby...Do consider upgrading to either more bulbs, or a different lighting
regime. It's that important!>
3.The larger clown fish is keeping the anemone to himself and
chase the other away. Do you recommend buying another perhaps
different type of anemone for the smaller or let him just go without?
<It's really not necessary for a clownfish to be kept with an anemone. In
fact, the majority of the Clownfishes available in the hobby are captive breed,
and may have never seen an anemone before! They can do perfectly well without
one>
4.The LFS said to only feed flakes every other day and a liquid
plankton once a week. What do you think?
<For the clownfish? A variety of frozen and flake foods are perfectly
acceptable. Depending on the species, the anemone can be fed similar items, as
well as marine-based "meaty foods", such as chopped squid, clams,
etc>
Thanks for your help. I am sure I will be talking with you again
soon. Sue Z.
<Glad to be here for you, Sue. Do try to identify the species of anemone that
you are working with, and do everything possible to assure that you give this
animal the highest level of care! You'll be successful if you can provide him
with the conditions that it requires to thrive! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Nocturnal Disappearances
Hi Guys,
Greetings from Dubai in the Middle east. Ok...there's war goin on here but I've
got bigger problems...
<Well, not really bigger, but a nice distraction from the war,
nonetheless>
I have a 66 gallon marine tank with ocean rock (made coral skeleton and shells)
for homes stocked with 2 medium clarkii clowns
1 ocellaris, 1-3 spot damsel, 2 green Chromis 2 blue damsel
Two weeks ago my wife went to Colombo and met a friend who has a marine farm and
he gifted her...2 carpet anemones, 1 Formosa Wrasse
3 fire shrimp, 3 cleaner shrimp, 2 Anthias (squamipinnis)
2 seahorses (1 yellow 1 black)( I was against putting them in the tank but I hadn't
a choice !), 2 bi colored blennies, 2 cleaner wrasse. I know what you're thinking
by this overstocking (Don't shout at me please...) :)
<Ok, but it's still overcrowded, LOL!>
and yeah I was shocked as well at his kind gesture but they all seemed to get on
well no arguments no chasing AND ALL WERE FEEDING WELL on the flake food + Raw
shrimp pieces + blood worms.
<Well, fish that eat are fish that live>
One evening I returned from work last week and found the yellow seahorse
missing....I looked about the rocks and there was no trace. Anyway two days
later I saw the red carpet anemone burping the skeleton out!!!
<What a nightmare!>
My wife wasn't pleased as she's the seahorse fan...3 days later the black
seahorse went missing...2 days later, a piece of the skeleton emerged from the
same place again...Now One cleaner shrimp has disappeared and so has my poor
Formosa Wrasse...Is there any chance that this wrasse has burrowed itself under
the 3 inch coral substrate ? He never ever went near the anemones....was always
eating 24hrs from the rocks...
<Certainly a possibility...However, your guess is as good as mine here...I
hope it wasn't the anemone....Just keep an eye out for him.>
Also one of my blennies has got stripes along his body like stretch marks...What
is this ?
<Again, hard to say from here, but it could be a coloration pattern of some
sort. I notice very subtle bluish stripes on the facial area of my lack Sailfin
blenny...particularly noticeable when he is agitated...could be nothing...I
would not be overly concerned about it>
How do I stop this from happening ? I am a big fan of my tank and ensure that
the water is in peak condition every weekend...I have done a crazy amount of
reading on marine life and on WWM's FAQs so I'm kinda puzzled...
<Well, if it is the anemone snapping up your fishes in the middle of the
night, the only real solution is to remove either the fish or the
anemones...That way, no one is at risk, and there is no problem...>
Appreciate the help bud's Thanks
God bless you all @ WWM
<Thank you for the kind thoughts! Sorry I don't have any earth-shattering revelations
for you, but I think that you need to review the stocking and compatibility of
the animals...An hang in there! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Clueless ...
Lyndon
Nocturnal Disappearances (Pt. 2)
Hi Scott,
<Hello again!>
Thanks for the reply...was eatin dinner yesterday and saw the red carpet anemone
trapping my fire shrimp...I started a 911 rescue operation (aided by the Clarkii
clown...hahaha) immediately but the anemone would not let go...so I coaxed the
killer outta the tank and managed to extricate the shrimp carefully...but the
poor bugger was almost dead...unfortunately I couldn't give him CPR and the
shock must have accelerated his demise. Guess where the anemone
is...Quarantined.
<Given the recent events in your tank, I'd say that this was a wise move on
your part!>
Is this normal for anemones ? Perhaps its instinct ?.
<Well, they are not "aggressive", but the tentacles do perform a
"reflex" action by trapping whatever makes contact with them, be it a
piece of food, or an expensive fish! They certainly don't discriminate!>
Also I've noticed that my two Clarkii's behave in a curious manner...the bigger
one chases the smaller sized one and the smaller guy does a kind of vibration
act with his whole body slanted or sideward...then he proceeds to eat the
rock...and this continues....now I notice both are doing this side act.....what's
up with them ? Are they bumping each other or is it Break dance ?
<Actually, more like a courting dance! The smaller, submissive fish is almost
certainly the male. In clownfish courting, the mail will generally
"tremble" in the presence of the female (don't get any ideas, ladies
out there), before he submits to her and a pair is formed. It's fascinating to
watch, and definitely a sign that a male/female pair is becoming
established...In the near future, you may even see a spawning event! Start
reading up about breeding and rearing Clownfishes, if you're interested! It's an
amazing and fascinating hobby in its own right!>
Thanks Once Again Regards Lyndon
<My pleasure, Lyndon! Have fun with your newly formed clownfish pair!
Regards, Scott F>
New Anemone And Clownfish...
Hi, Yesterday I bought a 1.5 inch pink skunk and a long tentacle anemone, I
didn't put in quarantine the anemone (just acclimatizing) and the fish was
isolated in a hospital tank.
<Good procedure!>
The clown looks great, bright and alert, the anemone moved itself to a mid
position in the tank (I put it at night) this
morning I found it attached to a rock and full open. Ok, 3 questions:
1)How to feed, how often, with? the anemone?
<I'd feed the anemone several times a week with meaty
"marine-origin" foods, like krill, squid, clam, etc...>
2)After 2 weeks? of quarantine, can I expect the pink skunk will
get in symbiosis with the anemone?
<Quarantine should last a minimum of 3 weeks, and there is simply no
guarantee that a clownfish will take up residence in an anemone...Sometimes they
do, and sometimes they don't (how's that for an answer, huh?)...But, as we know-
fishes have a mind of their own and won't always conform to our standards,
unfortunately... the best you can do is provide a good environment, food,
lighting, and hope or the best>
3)In my tank 200 lts- I have only one yellow surgeon, one yellow
tail damsel (1.5") and blue devil damsel (3"), now the clown, do I
have to expect some kind of aggression from the damsels to the little clown?
<Quite possible...damsels tend to be a bit less than welcoming to new fishes,
particularly clownfish...Keep an eye on the new clownfish...>
Thank you, if you have another observation, I will be grateful
Carlos Díaz
<Well, Carlos...just keep an eye on things, make sure that you provide
optimum conditions for the anemone, and you should be successful...Good luck!
Regards, Scott F.>
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Mystery Anemone
Good morning Crew,
I have read everything I can, trying to get an ID
on this hitch hiker. It must have come with my Walt smith Fiji
LR and survived the cycle and a week in a bucket (after my 72G aquarium
leaked) It does not like a lot of light but has started to stay
extended through out the day. I have target fed it shrimp and
has a large appetite. Any help would be great.
Thank you
Jason McKenzie
<Very likely a type of Glass Anemone (Aiptasia). Please see here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/aiptasia/aiptasia.htm
and the associated files (linked, in blue, above). Bob Fenner>
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Giant Feces
Hi Bob & Crew, I searched your website but couldn't find
anything on this topic so this may be a new question for you (or maybe not). Lately
I have been finding very large feces (1/4"x3/4") around in my tank
daily in pretty large quantities and it's making me crazy. The only
new additions to the tank are a Bubbletip Anemone which is about 3-4" in
diameter and gets fed Mysis shrimp every 3 days or (my primary suspect) a Queen
Conch which is getting larger by the day, now about 3" long. I
have been trying to watch where they are coming from to no avail, any experience
in this nasty area? I have no desire to have my tank become a
"septic" tank. Thanks, Rich
<Likely these feces are from the anemone. They "regurgitate" (only
one opening in/out with these animals) a day or so after being fed. A good idea
to remove these pellets with a siphon when you find them. Bob Fenner>
Beginner or misinformed? The basics with anemones 3/3/03
I put a bubble tip anemone in my tank, and within about 3 hours,
it began to die. The mouth became enlarged, and he began to shrink in
size, and within 24 hours he was dead.
<for how potentially disastrous a dead anemone can be in an aquarium (beyond
the need for being a responsible and conscientious aquarist) you simply must
quarantine all new anemones at home before even dreaming of adding one to your
tank. A separate QT tank is mandatory for success and sensibility... please read
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/quarinverts.htm
and here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/QuarMarFishes.htm
>
I suspected that I got a bad one from my dealer, so I went to another store and
purchased one that was perfectly healthy.
<we must be very careful of using such unrealistic phrases like
"perfectly healthy". I doubt that this anemone was kept in isolation
for a full 4 week QT in the LFS/shop and observed by anybody for the interim. At
best, this anemone navigated import days ago and still looked good. But it, like
most, was very stressed... hence the need in part for "hardening" and
acclimation in a quiet QT>
I came home and introduced him to the tank, and the
same think happened. I have also tried polyps, and something the
dealer called a flower pot which had green flowers and about 4 inch tentacles.
<Wow! You are getting scary bad advice, my friend. Flower Pot coral are
extremely(!) difficult to keep even for experts. What you really need to do is
stop the impulse purchases, read about the needs of these animals before you buy
them... then go shop your local stores as an educated consumer. You will be safe
and successful then I assure you. In the meantime... please buy a good aquarium
book on corals like Eric Borneman's "Aquarium Corals">
They have all died of in just a few days. My water tests perfect.
<Ughh... "perfect". Alkalinity, Calcium?>
Nitrates are less than 10, ammonia is 0, and the salinity is right on the money. No
phosphates either. I use R.O. water. Please help. John
<John... do help yourself with research first. Please go to the index page at
www.wetwebmedia.com and click the link for "marines" at the top...
then click the link for "non-vertebrates" and explore and all articles
and FAQ topics that interest you. There is so much to learn and enjoy, but none
will happen if you continue to conduct yourself uninformed. Else I fear that you
will leave the hobby, or worse... continue to needlessly kill animals. The
lesson here is proper species selection and proper husbandry beginning with a
full 4-week quarantine in a cheap 10 gallon aquarium at home for all new
livestock (rock, corals, fish, sand, etc). And mind you, that the local fish
store that says you don't need to quarantine your/their livestock is the same
place that wants you to keep buying "impossible" (for beginners)
creatures to keep alive like Goniopora flower pots. You are more profitable that
way ;) Best of luck, Anthony>
Re: Sebae
Do you need sand for a saddle carpet anemone because I have rocks from my LFS
and I would like to know if Saddle carpets can't attach in rocks?
<While anemones are very popular, they are not an easy to keep inhabitant,
please see: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm to
learn much more about Carpet Anemones and their needs. They are not Sebaes and
they also get incredibly large, up to a few feet across. I sincerely hope you
are researching this animal before buying. You will find the
information you seek at the above link, along with more information on care,
habit, selection, etc. Do not take this purchase lightly, these
animals are *immortal* in the wild, you are taking-on the responsibility to keep
a pet that in the wild, would live forever. Can you offer more as an
aquarist? If not, best to think about another choice, perhaps a
captive bred clone of an easier to keep species. Anemones need pristine water,
well aged systems, consistent conditions, regular feeding, high intensity
lighting, and protection from powerheads, pumps and other
moving/rotating/sucking aquarium fixtures. They do not need clown
fish nor do clownfish need anemones. Craig>
Anemone ID question 2/28/03
Hello again and thanks for the quick response on the dyed Turbinaria,
<our pleasure <G>>
I think he will be OK with the feeding you recommended. I have
another question about an anemone I purchased, can't seem to find a picture of
this model. White/tan body w/long clear tentacles that have a white spiral
structure up to the tips. Any idea?
<tough to say without a pic from the general description. Are the tentacles
corkscrewed? Perhaps a Bartholomea... see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/twaanemones.htm
Else... there are some such beautiful non-pest Aiptasia species... rather
ornate>
When I first put him in the tank he decided to move himself. Where he
ended up is on piece of LR towards the bottom 1/4 of the tank. Since
relocating he now "stretches" himself (the foot) about 6-8 inches. I
assume he is trying to find a stronger light source.
<again... do feed to compensate for lack of light. Just like with
dyed/stained corals>
Second question; should I try to move it or leave alone?
<best to simply leave in place and feed>
If he starts to suffer what symptoms should I watch for?
<shrinking/attrition is usually the first step>
As usual your help is really appreciated. Mike
<kind regards, Anthony>
Algae, Mandarin, anemone
Hello crew!
<Hi Aaron! Craig here today.>
Another question about my small set up.
<Sure!>
I don't consider it an algae bloom, because its only growing on the two rocks
with which it came in on. It does not look like the harmful algae that I have
seen online, and it's not spreading, just getting thicker on the rocks it came
in on. It's been about 3
months, and there is noticeable growth, but not drastic and it's been over time.
It now looks "furry" it's green and purple, almost in a
"brindle" pattern. I have snails (that don't seem to be interested)
that keep the glass clean, and the brown algae that was on my sand and other
rocks almost eradicated (took 3 snails 2 days) to rid my tank of the brown algae
2 months ago. No blooms since. I also have 5 small hermit crabs that
leave it alone as well. It is very pretty and unless harmful I don't want to
lose it. My question is, what small fish/invert can I get that will keep it
trimmed? In case you are not familiar with tank it's a 7 gallon, 12# LR 3"
DSB, Emperor 280 hang on filter (40gal per hour) 2 small clowns, 1 anemone
(waiting on ID in earlier letter), Mandarin ( I know I am getting a bigger
tank).
<No great suggestions for this size tank other than manual trimming. A Tang
would do in a much bigger tank....about the size you will need for your Mandarin
to do well (somewhere in the 55 gallon area up) with about 75 lbs of live rock
and plenty of macro algae and perhaps pod introduction. See Indo Pacific for
pods and macro algaes. And Aaron, don't go putting anemones in your tank without
ID, known needs for lighting, feeding, habitat, etc. This is VERY dangerous,
especially for only 7 gallons. No one at WWM would ever suggest an anemone in 7
gallons. DO get into a bigger tank for your mandarin AND for the anemone. It
will likely need Metal Halide lighting to survive, along with regular feeding.
(Every three days or so). Have you searched the anemone photos at WetWebFotos to
ID your anemone? Keep him away from the pump inlet and find a way to
shield it or he could commit suicide unknowingly and wipe out your tank.>
Also the two clowns I have, one is about 1 1/4" and the other is about an
inch long, they share the anemone, and sometimes swim kinda strange in a jerky
motion next to each other. Is this a precursor to a possible mating pair?
<Possibly. It is likely that if they aren't, one will change and become a
female, (usually the larger one). They may do this with other items in the tank
as well.>
Oh and I also witnessed my Mandarin eat a small feather duster, pulled it right
out of his tube, is this normal?
<If you saw him do it, it's normal enough!>
If that's the case would a star polyp be in danger? Don't have one yet, but was
thinking of one in a larger tank that I was going to put the mandarin in.
<I doubt it. I do suggest a much larger tank, at least 75 lbs of good quality
live rock, well established is best, or at least introductions of plenty of
macroalgae and pod populations to give the tank a jump start in keeping ahead of
the mandarin's consumption.>
As always thanks for the advice.
<You bet, hope this covers it! Craig>
The Plight of Sea Anemones 2/19/03
Hello crew: I was wondering if there are other creatures that look like
anemones, but are not?
<not many in similar size... perhaps a large corallimorph>
You know, one that looks like the Entacmaea or Heteractis species.
The reason I ask is that as a kid I remember creatures like that in a friend's
marine tank that he had for years, but he didn't have any intense lighting
system like MH. Are there imposters that require less light? Thanks,
Rich.
<well... a few anemones will live in low light for a couple years if fed
well. A brown (not white or yellow) malu/sebae anemone is a prime example.
Common carpet anemones too. Still... it is a childhood memory <G>. 3 years
could have been 14 months or even 6 years (and 4 anemones from the parents). And
the value/presence of even indirect sunlight from a window is enormous (!). So
many variables. Even if all were true (childhood anemone lived well in low
light, little food, etc))... that still doesn't change the fact that most all
today need bright light and frequent feeding. These are animals with no known
(terminal) lifespan. The ones we receive int he trade are decades old (some
large carpets pegged at over 100 years old). They also reproduce very slow in
the wild. Studies where storms or collectors have cleaned out a patch of reef of
Acropora coral... 2-3 years later are fully recovered. However, patches where
anemones are cleared out... are still devoid of any anemones 10 years later. It
is heart-breaking- and this is one case where our hobby truly has a clear and
negative impact on the environment. We simply must limit our consumption of
anemones and keep the ones we do get to the best of our ability. No anemones in
mixed reef tanks with other corals/anemones or low light systems, etc. Best
regards, Anthony>
Heteractis malu anemone-stings? - 2/15/03
I was wondering if the Heteractis malu anemone stings...thank
you Kim
<Cheers, Kim... yes, indeed. This anemone like all cnidarians (its order) can
sting. The real danger is with other tankmates. You are relatively safe from its
sting unless sensitive, allergic or if you have an open cut or wound that comes
in contact. Keep this and all anemones as the only cnidarian in the tank (no
other anemones or coral) for best success.>
p.s. how will i find the answer to my question will you email me back
or what.. sorry I'm new to this
<we reply to all directly and paste all sent messages on the daily FAQ page
within 24 hours typically. Best regards, Anthony>
Anemone possibility?
Hey guys,
<You get Ananda here tonight...>
I have an eclectic mix of fish in a 90 gallon. I have a Porcupine puffer, a
Percula clown, a Tomato clown, a red spotted hawk, a Sailfin tang, a Fairy
Wrasse, a 4 spot yellow wrasse, a yellow tail damsel, an orange tail damsel and
a Velvet Damsel.
<Uh-oh. You're going to need a second tank, one bigger than this one. That
tomato clown is going to get more belligerent when it gets older, and your
percula clown is a likely candidate for its nastiness. And the porcupine puffer
is going to get the size of a football. At some point you'll probably want a
much bigger tank to give him room to swim around in -- these guys can get over a
foot long.>
Everyone except the Orange Tail get along great, my fiancée can hand feed the
porcupine (named "Luigi"), and the Percula Clown (named "Count
Percula").
<If he has fangs, I want a pic.>
I was wondering if it would be possible to place an Anemone in the tank for the
percula.
<Neither of your clownfish "needs" an anemone to do well in a
tank... possible, certainly -- but just as possible that the anemone could die
and take all of your fish with it. Sad, but true.>
If so, what kind of anemone would be best?
<The artificial kind. I've seen some that are remarkably realistic. Do check
if your local fish store stocks any. If not, check out the photos at www.naturesimageonline.com
for some ideas.>
I appreciate any assistance you could lend. Rory and Anne
<Valentine's Day gift suggestion: a new tank (bigger, naturally) for the
puffer and some of the other fish. :-) --Ananda>
Anemone placement and clown association
Hello. <Hi Don with you>
I am thinking about adding an long tentacle anemone to my tank. <OK> I am
using crushed coral as a substrate. Will this be okay for the LTA
because I been reading up on this and some of the information said that they
like to burrow there foot in sand. I need to know will they be able
to burrow in the crushed coral. I also have live rock in the tank. ps
will my tomato clown take to the anemone because I had a Condylactis anemone and
he did not pay any attention to it. <Check here for a clown/anemone chart and
the placement links at the top of the page. Good luck, Don>
[Editor's Note: it would seem that Don forgot the link - that information can
be found here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
]
Anemone Feeding
Hello,
My name is Chris Hepburn <and mine is Paul. How do you do?> and I just
have a quick question.<Cool> I purchased an Anemone about a week ago. I am
not exactly sure what kind it is.<Chris, it is really important that you try
in the future to find out as much as possible about your future inhabitants
before you purchase them. Some may have no chance in your particular set up
without some sound research. However, I do applaud you for coming to this site
seeking information. It is a step in the right direction for sure!> It was
labeled as an Atlantic Anemone. <Ok> The main part of it a light tan and
goes to a darker tan on the tips. My question is: today I was watching my tank
and noticed that one of the arms of the anemone has a few good size air bubbles
in the very end of it. I have no idea how they got in there. Will this affect
the anemone? <Tentacles can tell loads regarding anemone health, mood>
Is there a way to get rid of the air?<Usually will expel itself if it is not
a permanent feature of the tentacle. Again, an id will go a long way in
determining physical shape, food needs, and environment> It keeps shrinking
the arm down so that it is all shriveled up, but the air is still in there. Also
what would be the best thing for me to feed the anemone? <Please start with
this link: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm.
Usually meaty foods, various shrimp, clam, etc. There are plenty of offerings
that can be found in the FAQs at the preceding link> I have been giving it
Brine Shrimp, but heard that Brine Shrimp does not have enough nutrients for an
anemone.<Brine shrimp really doesn't have the nutrients for almost any animal
to be honest. Fresh or salt. I guess it could be gut loaded with something to
"enrich" it but overall a poor choice over the long haul. See the
link. I am positive it will help you greatly.>
Thanks,
Chris Hepburn
<Thank you Chris. Paul>
Odd little anemone 2/8/03
Hey Crew, I got about 6 of these little guys as hitchhikers with a coral frag
and I can't determine if they are a mushroom or anemone.
<hard to see from photo (do resend a clearer image if possible). My guess is
an anemone at a glance>
I thought they were a Ricordea mushroom or maybe a Stichodactyla tapetum
(miniature carpet anemone) but the polyps are frilly as well as round and didn't
really look like any pictures I could find. They range between the
size of a dime and quarter, have a more oval than round mouth and they motor
across the LR. I have fed them and they readily accept food but I
don't want them to perish from lack of light (only have NO Fluorescent ). Any
help would be great. Thanks, Aven
<really not clear enough to ID, but It's likely to need regular feedings of
fine meaty matter. Can you tell me what coral it came in with, if the coral was
freshly imported or if it was held at length in a mixed dealers display. Any
such history? Best regards, Anthony>
Surprise anemones
I was admiring my salt water tank and was looking at the live rock and
noticed two small-tiny anemone on the rock. I am not sure how they got there. I
have a bubble tip anemone right now and I had a purple anemone that is no longer
in the tank as of about 3 wks ago, but I have had this rock in here for about 2
months+. I am not sure what to do, or if I need to do anything. I moved my rocks
around 4-5 days ago after adding some more and I am not sure if there may be
more around this one rock or possibly underneath. Do they need special food? How
fast do they grow? what is there life span? Can they reproduce on there own?
Please let me know..........................thank you.............
<There's a possibility that these new anemones are the asexual reproductive
product of one of your bought anemones, but more likely that they're a pest
species like Aiptasia... Please see here re: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/aiptasia/aiptasia.htm
Arguments are presented re their merits, means of removal in the associated FAQs
(linked, in blue, at top). Bob Fenner>
Anemone questions
I have two questions. My white sebae anemone hasn't been eating. I feed him
silversides. He has ate them before. I don't think it is the water, but are they
that weak. I have lost one before & I didn't know why. Another thing is one
of my white Condylactis has a dark brown color to him and I'm wondering could be
sick. Or is normal. He is eating well, I just don't know.
<You soon will. Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
See the blue filenames at top? They're links to matters to do with aquarium
husbandry of anemones. Study them well.
Bob Fenner>
With Friends Like These, Who Needs Anemones?
Hey Scott, Thanks for the quick response!
<That Thai iced tea works fast! :) >
Sorry to bug you again, but I just wanted to clarify on a couple
specifics. So do you think I could support the live rock and
effectively grow coralline algae with just the NO lighting I use
now?
<I think that you could. of course, there is more required to grow coralline
algae than just light, such as calcium, magnesium, etc.>
Would it be enough for an anemone or two?
<Not a chance, my friend! I'd use at least VHO or PC's for that- better yet,
I'd employ some metal halides. Light intensity and quality is very important for
anemones>
I'm pretty certain that with my Humu trigger, I won't be doing the reef thing.
;) The anemones will be an "experiment".
<Hmm. Please don't experiment with the anemones and a trigger...Yes- it can
be done, but anemones are difficult enough to keep thriving in captivity without
exposing them to a potential tankmate who may use them as a chew toy! They would
not become best of friends, that's for sure!>
And is it a good idea to try to convert this regular NO light strip into one
using VHO? I am afraid it may not be able to withstand the heat.
<VHO's do burn hotter, and you may need to use different hardware in the hood
for them to operate safely. I'd talk to the people at some of the better
lighting suppliers, such as Champion or Hello Lights for more advice on
conversion...>
One other thing, do you know or have you heard anything about Coralife's
Aqualite PC light strips? I think they're rather new on the market,
can't find much on them.
<I've seen them, but I haven't read much about them. I'd do a search at
Coralife's website for more information>
Thanks again! Tim
<Any time, Tim! Good luck! And, do reconsider the anemone/trigger thing,
okay! Regards, Scott F>
Unwanted free anemones
Hi Robert,
I just bought a live rock over the weekend and later on that night I noticed
that it has like 4 curly q anemones on it.
I'm not sure if I want these or not. I heard they sting, and I was wondering if
they would sting my clown fish or my corals that I have in the tank? And will
they sting me? If I don't want it, how would I remove them? Or do you think I
should just take the rock back to the fish store where I got it
at? Thank you, for your help.
<Mmm, need to know more definitively what sort of anemone this is. Please see
here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
and the linked files (above, in blue) of Aiptasia, "Other Pest
Anemones"... can you see the species you have? There is information in the
FAQs files re their eradication if this is indeed a "pest species"...
they can all sting you on thin (non-calloused) parts of your body (like your
wrists, forearms). Bob Fenner>
Tammy Neal
Anemones And Eels!
Hey guys,
<Scott F. your guy tonight>
Thinking of changing my crushed coral substrate to live sand. My LFS
guy told me it can be done but to be very very careful of spiking levels. Would
one of you be so kind as to give me a very brief idea of how to go about this in
the safest possible way?
<I'd gradually (like over a week or two) remove some of the crushed coral and
replace it with the live sand...I'd do this lengthwise, about a quarter or a
third of the tank at a time, and wait about 3 days or so between
removal/replacements. Monitor nitrite and ammonia regularly during this
process>
Secondly, I am going to upgrade to a power compact light so i can have some
anenomes. I'd like to mix a few different types of anenomes but I've
read your section and seems there can be some war.
<I would not mix anemones of different species in all but the largest
aquariums. There certainly can be "chemical warfare", even with the
same species, in many instances>
Any particular recommendations of species that could co-exist in a 75? Numbers?
And do the tiny blue claw hermits pose a problem to them??
<Quite frankly, I'd limit your selection to one anemone in this sized
aquarium. Do study up on the species that you intend to keep. Remember, the vast
majority of all anemones in the hobby are wild-collected, and their removal from
natural habitats directly affects the wild reefs. It's changing slowly-but the
long-term success with anemones is really not that common at this time. If you
are starting with an anemone, make sure that it is either one of the hardier,
more abundant wild-collected species, such as the Atlantic Condylactis, or a
captive-propagated species, such as Entacmaea quadricolor ("Rose
Anemone"). Really make sure that you provide for their needs in every way;
these animals may have extremely long wild lifespans (possibly over 100 years!),
and we must be responsible when attempting to keep them. I have not seen the
small hermits that you mentioned posing a problem with anemones>
Lastly, I'd like to put a small eel into the tank. This may seem silly bc I'm
sure eels in the wild don't just ram into anenomes and die, but then again, I've
seen some stupid eels! Would an eel just carelessly run into an
anemone and get killed??
<Well, it's entirely possible. Do take into account the appetite of morays
and the effect of their metabolic products on the water quality...anemones
require very good water quality...!>
Thanks so much guys. Rick
<Our pleasure, Rick! Just do some studying on the wetwebmedia.com site about
these animals...I'm sure that you'll be successful if you proceed with caution!
Good luck!>
Re: lost fish (full anemone)
Hi
I have a new reef setup I bought second hand from a friend.
120 gallon tank, plenty of LR, a Tunze System sump with skimmer.
The tank cycled well according to plan, a diatom explosion occurred, but quickly
resolved with a yellow eyed tank, snails and hermit crabs.
Then two weeks ago a ritteri anemone and 2 perc clowns, orchid Dottyback and a
yellow tailed damsel were added.
Anyway, all seem to have been very happy, although the clowns have gone nowhere
near the anemone, but over the last 5 days both the Dottyback and
damsel have disappeared!
No powerheads have intakes that they could have been sucked into, and there is
no sign of them jumping out of the tank. They all seemed well with no sign that
there was any problem.
I can only assume that the anemone has eaten them - is this possible?
<Yes. Though these fishes could have been lost in other ways (jumped out,
died and quickly dissolved...)>
If so, is there any safer fish that I could replace them with?
<Not really particular types but it may help to place new livestock either
early in the morning, or to leave the lights on the tank or one near the tank on
overnight the first night or two. Know that ritteri (Heteractis magnifica) will
eat most any fish, invertebrate that happens into its tentacles, and that they
can/do expand quite a bit at times... Bob Fenner>
any advice would be very welcome,
Thanks
Ron Patmore,
Moving anemones
Hi, all,
<Marc>
The recent spate of anemone questions has reminded me of an observation I've
meant to pass on for some time. About 9 months ago, I moved my sebae (Heteractis
crispa) to a new tank. I had it mostly but not entirely deflated. In the
process, I supported the anemone body when it was out of the water but even then
several tentacles burst from the weight of the water in the tentacle (imagine
each inflated tentacle as a very delicate water balloon).
This anemone is very large which exacerbated the problem but in general, given
the chance of tentacle rupture, I'd recommend making sure the anemone is as
deflated as possible by gently shaking it before moving it. And then support the
body when it is out of water and keep it out of water for as little time as
possible. I wasn't able to move it submerged but that is probably best if
precaution can be taken to prevent the anemone from being rubbed between moving
container and the rock it is on.
On the other hand, the ruptures didn't seem to cause the anemone any problems,
immediate or long term. In the wild, I'd imagine tentacle damage isn't too
uncommon and anemones can deal with it but given the state many anemones arrive
in, it is better to stress them as little as possible. Arriving from the LFS,
they are often so shriveled that bursting tentacles aren't an issue but for the
hobbyist moving an established one, something to look out for.
Marc
<Thank you for this. Bob Fenner>
- Anemone ID -
<Greetings, JasonC here...>
Hi i wondered if you could help me identify a weird anemone/coral that
appeared on some live rock in my 50 gal tank. It has nearly tripled in
size which i assume is from feeding as i only have 1 white 40w tube and
one actinic blue 40w tube. I thought it was a bubble coral but it looks
nothing like the pictures on your site or any other site i have searched
through. It is pink and has the bubbles but they are long and have a
curled tentacle on the end. These bubbles are lined up around the edge of
a wide circular disc and there is a mouth in the centre. There are no
obvious hard or stony parts to it except from a circular base from which
it grew from. I hope the picture i attached worked as it will give you a
better idea. <Well, I'll apologize in advance for my cheesy answer,
but... this is obviously some type of Anemone species. But you already
knew that, I'm sorry I can't do better but it's a pretty diverse group of
animals. At least it doesn't sound like one of the pests like Aiptasia. It
does sound though like it might like a little more light that it is
getting.>
Thanks for your help.
<Cheers, J -- > |

|
- Thoughts on Anemones -
Jason, <Hi...>
Reefkeeping is so much harder than I thought! <It doesn't need to be that way
at all.> Don't ask me why I ever thought it would be simple...maybe wishful
thinking.
Thanks for the info. I'm hoping for the best then, and leaving my
false Percs to try and warm up to the sebae. If not, perhaps I'll try
the trade for the Clarkii...The blue carpet was so touchy (I thought better left
to expert hands)...and the Haitian was rough on my other fish (hence the
"evil" tag!). <All anemones need very good
lighting.> I feel a bit better to know I'm not a natural born
failure at figuring out this anemone/clown thing. <Well, I would just advise
that even the experts in the hobby have a hard time with anemones, and truly...
they should be left in the ocean. For whatever reason, the pairing of clown fish
and anemones in aquaria is so compelling that anemones keep showing up in the
stores.> Will just be patient (usually the best advice that I'm prone to
ignore). <Ah well... this is the most important lesson to learn in marine
aquaria.>
As for the sebae, I have 220 PC lights on my 75g tank (also have a yellow
leather coral, red brain and 2" Ricordea mushroom)...should I re-think the
lighting? <You might want to augment it sometime in the future.>
Thanks.
Vicki
<Cheers, J -- >
Anemone: conflict of advice on your web site. help!
<cheers, Maureen>
I was reading your web site last week and came across several questions about
feeding anenomes and the answer to all the questions was small pieces of food at
least once a day otherwise the anenomes will die within 1 to 2 years of
starvation.
<this is true for many popular anemones... not true for others. Know your
species. Carpet anemones need heavy feedings, but Ritteri anemones need amazing
mounts of light (more than most coral) but very little feeding it seems (organismally
speaking). It really comes down to understanding the needs of your species
within the framework of the advice given.>
So, I immediately changed my feeding habits to once daily rather than once
weekly. Tonight I read this on your web site:
"Underfeed, underfeed, don't feed! Underfeed, underfeed, don't feed! Most
losses in captive systems are the result of over-feeding. How many more times do
I feel I need to write this? Bunches! Some anemones have been kept for YEARS
without any intentional external feeding. Know your stock! Many anemones
(especially larger species) are detritivorous (a polite term meaning they eat
poop), planktivorous, and largely chemoautotrophic/photosynthesizing
species/individuals that hobbyists try to over-stuff with meaty/prepared foods.
My bid for largest cause of loss of anemones is the consequences (lack of
oxygen, hydrogen and other sulfide production...) from over-feeding. Cut it out!
Within normal temperatures and other conditions, most can and do do well on
weekly feedings. If you're going on vacation, leave them alone."
So, which is it?
<both to some extent. As an analogy... one wouldn't feed a Toy poodle and a
Bull Mastiff the same amount of food daily just because they were
both dogs. Different critters in the same family have different needs. Our
advice on WWM serves the greater good as best we can. We add a lot of content
daily but are still generalized in some areas that we haven't been able to
develop or refine yet>
I was researching my feeding habits today because our Rose Anemone barfed out a
mucus ball today that had about 4 pieces of food in it. *gross* *yeeeechhhhh* *Ack*
I've been cutting the food in tiny chunks, less than 1/4" so I don't think
the pieces were too large but I know the previous owner was feeding once weekly
so I wonder if I'm overfeeding by doing it once a day? I couldn't stand the
thought of the little darlings starving under my care.
Thanks! Maureen
<a very good and thoughtful question dear, thank you. And to be specific for
your anemone... Rose anemones favor fairly bright light and can live on moderate
organismal feedings (daily not needed here). Target feeding 2-3 times weekly
would be very fine. Please keep in mind too that the content on our site is
written by more than a few people over a period of years. Opinions differ and
understandings evolve in time in the hobby. Simply make an intelligent consensus
that seems to support your animal and husbandry style. One act of regurgitation
is not enough to make you stop feeding daily. After weeks of daily feeding...
was the anemone better or worse looking? If no better than before, perhaps
scaling back would be fine. Best regards, Anthony>
Flower anemone
Hello Crew!
<hello, Sam!>
I have a question about my flower anemone that I've had for about a year.
<Okey-dokey>
When I first got it, it was fairly small, and at that time I would feed it
directly maybe 2 times a week.
<a reasonable schedule>
It would eagerly take small pieces of squid, shrimp and sometimes clams. It
seems that lately though, it doesn't want to
be fed. It releases any food I offer it, no matter how big/small the pieces.
<interesting>
Full grown now, at about 5" across, I have seen it grab food when I feed
the fish so I'm wondering if it no longer needs to be fed?
<very unlikely. I'm wondering if this isn't an expression of duress from an
aspect of husbandry that has strayed unfavorably. A common catalyst here for
such zooxanthellate organisms is light bulbs that have aged beyond use or simply
become scary dusty/crusty. Fluorescent lamps are only good for 6-10 months. Some
are only 70% effective at 6 months old... none are likely usable after 12
months. If your bulbs have aged beyond 12 months, that is a likely catalyst for
the unhappy symptoms. When changing to new bulbs or cleaning very dirty old
ones, be careful not to shock the corals and anemones below with the sudden
increase in light. Raise the lights slightly if necessary. Fluorescents lights
should also be mounted no further than 3" off the water's surface. Do
consider all>>
The Firefish also has the habit of pooping directly over the anemone
<awesome for the anemone!>
and, not that I watch this kind of thing that often, I have seen the anemone eat
the poo.
<yes... fecal matter in reef aquaria from well fed fishes is very helpful>
It "seems" healthy, (we all know how that can be....that's why I'm
worried), color is good, tentacles are sticky, it poops regularly. Should I be
worried?
<perhaps not at all>
There is so little info on the flower anemones..... Thanks for your help! Best
regards, Sam
<kindly, Anthony>
Re: Flower anemone
Cheers, Sam
Hello Anthony! Thank you for your quick reply!
<always a pleasure>
I hadn't thought about the bulbs being old, but I bet that's it!
<its easy to forget about them. If there is any significant coating of dust
or debris (salt creep, etc) on them, it is definitely an issue, We shall see if
it is the primary stressor soon enough>
These are PC's BTW and the bulbs are around 9 months so
I guess it's time. Thank you again! Sam
<best regards, bud. Anthony>
- Roam Where you Want To! -
<Greetings, JasonC here...>
I have a 55 gal. with 40 pounds of live rock.... 2 anemones; shrimp, crabs,
snails, and 1 sea cucumber, and several feather dusters. I started w/
2 damsels to cycle the tank. The fish I *had* were: coral
beauty, mandarin goby, Basslet, yellow tang, clownfish, and a fox
face.. I emailed a week or so ago about the sudden death of my
tang. Then the anemone ate the goby. Since then, the coral
beauty died (apparently from ich) but no other
fish shows signs of ich. I replaced the tang, only to find him in the
anemone 3 days later. Just 2 hours before that he was
fine. The Basslet was also consumed by the anemone. I have
lost almost all of my fish to the anemones (except the first tang and the coral
beauty). Can you help me to understand what is going on. <I can
try. My take on this is that there isn't enough room in the tank. Anemones are
best kept in either very large systems, or better yet systems all to themselves.
With 40 pounds of live rock in a 55 gallon tank, even a wary fish can
accidentally run into an anemone.> I cannot figure out if the fish are sick
and being eaten, or if I just have a couple of mean anemones. <Anemones don't
have good or bad intentions, they are what they are.> I did treat the tank
with NO-ICH at the first sign of the coral beauty getting sick. <Personally,
I am always skeptical about 'reef-safe' ich treatments because they are either
not reef safe or they are completely ineffective against ich.>
All of my parameters are OK... salinity, PH, ammonia, nitrite/ate. I
just do not know what else to do. <Don't pack so much into this tank, that's
where I would start.> I would get rid of the anemones if I knew that would
help. <It would.> My tank is crystal clear, coralline algae growing
good. All the invertebrates are thriving. I keep the sides and front
clean and let the back glass go. I do have some white (calcium like)
deposits on the back glass and living rock. I was told this is
probably some coralline growth... true? <Or some calcium-based tube worms...
shouldn't be a big deal, bleached coralline is another possibility.> It is
just like specs or dots. <Probably the worms.>
Right now I am down to 4 fish, the 2 damsels (one is acting funny)... the
Foxface and the clownfish. The clownfish is the oldest fish I have
besides the damsels and he seems to be thriving well... no signs of sickness
with him. <Consider in the future when treating these types of problems a
separate quarantine system - more about those here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/quaranti.htm
>
I am just beginning to wonder if my local pet store knows what is going on.
<So many variables here... no matter the business, it's hard to find good
employees, and even then the owners may only be in it for the money. Sad but
true, but not all local fish stores are this way. Consider looking for some
alternatives.> I enjoy this hobby, but I cannot afford to keep loosing
expensive fish. <Who can? Certainly not me.> Thanks for your help.
BTW, last time you suggested toxins in the water.... I have kinda ruled that out
now. I have done a 20gal water change and have changed the carbon 2
times in the last couple of weeks. <Hate to say it, but that's not enough for
me to rule it out. A 40% change still leaves you with 60% of the regular water
remaining... and again when you change the same amount later. Likewise,
activated carbon won't get everything - try a PolyFilter, these are much better
at removing a broad spectrum of badness from your tank.>
Thanks again, Michael
<Cheers, J -- >
Anemone Setup
I want to put together a reef aquarium, with live rock, clown fish
and sea anemones:
Here is my set up:
Do I need anything else especially in the filter department? Please
any help you can give me would be of great help. Also should I switch
the Magnum 350 with the Eheim Pro2 Canister Filter 2028? And do I
need powerheads with this setup?
<I'd choose the Eheim over the Magnum, myself, but both are good quality. In
my opinion, the Eheim is easier to maintain and change the filter media, which
is very important when using canister filters. People tend to put off
maintenance if the unit is difficult to work with, and the Eheims are very easy
to use, in my experience>
Marineland MAGNUM 350 PRO SYSTEM WITH DOUBLE BIOWHEEL Magnum 350
Deluxe package, BIO-Wheel PRO 60 Wet Dry Biological Filter,
Power Kleen Gravel Washer. Certified Flow 350 GPH
All Glass Brand 75 GAL ECONOMY AQUARIUM-BLACK 48X18X20
All Glass Brand VERSA TOP 48X18"-BLACK
RAINBOW LIFEGARD LITTLE TIME OR TEMP
RED SEA PRISM HANG. SKIMMER
Aqua Pharmaceutical RENA EXCEL HEATER-300W
INSTANT OCEAN REEF CRYSTAL SALT 200G Pail
INSTANT OCEAN FASTEST KIT-MASTER
Instant Ocean MILLENNIUM 3000 FILTER as backup help
I thank you for any help you can give me. Yours, Leo Evans
<Well, Leo, sounds like you're okay in the filtration department, as far as
capacity is concerned. If you did not purchase your components yet, maybe you'd
consider a sump set up? With a sump, you can really have a lot of flexibility.
Sump set ups are incredibly simple, and keep all of the intakes, heaters, etc
out of your aquarium, giving it a nice, clean look. Read more about sumps in the
wetwebmedia.com site. I didn't see any mention of a protein skimmer in your set
up. A protein skimmer is an absolute necessity when keeping demanding animals
such as anemones. Anemones require very high water quality, good circulation,
and very intense lighting. You didn't specify the type of lighting you are
considering. Ideally, you'd want to utilize metal halides, maybe compact
fluorescents, or VHO fluorescents. There are lots of different lighting packages
available out there that would suit your needs. Check some of our
wetwebmedia.com sponsors for the brands that they offer. Finally, a suggestion,
if I may? Anemones are fascinating animals, and are very hardy when provided the
proper conditions. However, at the present time, almost all anemones are
wild-caught, and their removal from the reefs directly impacts the wild
population, so you really need to know a great deal about the species that you
want to keep. These animals have extremely long life spans in the wild (some
possibly HUNDREDS of years..), yet many do not last long in captivity. For your
first anemone effort, I'd try the more abundant, less demanding Atlantic
Condylactis species. These are available in a variety of colors, and are every
bit as attractive as the more rare and delicate Indo-Pacific species. If you are
not up to the potential challenges of anemones yet, you can create an awesome
set-up with some hardy soft corals, which will provide you with years of
enjoyment and challenge. Whatever route you take, just learn all that you can
about your potential purchases, take it slow, and enjoy. You'll definitely be
successful! Feel free to contact us any time! Good Luck! Regards, Scott F>
Anemone riding on cucumber
hello, I just recently bought a bubble tip anemone. As soon as I put him in
the tank, he attached onto a cucumber I have that is about 6 inches long. I was
really worried that the anemone would kill the cucumber, and I would have a huge
mess going on. I didn't want to try to separate them, because cucumbers can
really get "stuck" onto things, and was worried about injuring either
of them. Half a day went by, and both of them seemed fine other then them
basically being mounted onto each other. I started to think that if I gave them
time the cucumber would just leave the anemone and all would be fine.
<agreed>
Now, its been two days, and the two are still together (anemone mounted on
cucumber).
<it must be a nice view :) >
Funny thing is though, that they both seem quite content with this situation.
the cucumber moves around and seems to appreciate the protection it gets from
the anemone, and the anemone seems as if it likes being carried by the cucumber.
<you really have too much time on your hands to think about this
<G>>
I'm really surprised the anemone hasn't killed the cucumber yet.
<no surprise here... many mutually deterrent animals. Remember that
Holothurians are toxic too>
I'm just wondering if this could actually be a healthy relationship for the two
of them, and maybe I shouldn't worry so much about it. Any info would be great.
Thanks
<they will part in days/weeks if they haven't already. You should separate
them if not... the cucumber could drag the anemone into a dangerous place
(pumps, intakes, near other cnidarians, etc). Best regards, Anthony>
New with Anemone
hi i have a pink tip Condylactis when i got up this morning is was a white
ball but after the lights came on it came out is this normal?? and how often
should i feed ??
<there is so much to learn here my friend... you really need to get the
information needed on animal husbandry before you buy an animal... please, my
friend... respect for living creatures. Most anemones die prematurely because
people see a cheap and cool addition to their tank but have no means to care for
it properly. Anemones in fact are more demanding than most corals for light and
water quality. Do you have full reef lighting for this creature? Nitrates are
near zero? For feeding, please feed meaty foods of marine origin (mysids,
Pacifica plankton... never brine shrimp though... all frozen)... very fine or
minced... never larger than 1/4"even though they will sting it (large
chunks can tear, harm or kill in time). My advice to you is to spend some time
in our wetwebmedia.com archives reading articles and FAQs on anemone husbandry.
Begin on this page (scroll down for anemone info):
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm
Best regards, Anthony>
Bought an Anemone.... now what do I do? Pt 2
Yeah but you didn't have to answer me like you're putting me down. That's what I
was getting at.
<While there was absolutely no deliberate attempt to malign you, there is
some truth in the perception... you are responsible for taking an
animal into your care that you know nothing about. How hard would it have been
for you to read information in a good book or on the Internet first before
buying this creature? You could have taken 15 minutes and read three articles to
form a fundamental consensus of its needs and your ability to meet them.
Instead, this creature suffers while you learn... if it even lives at all. That
is no better aquarium keeping than your claim that you've gone three years
without a water change and made your animals live in their own dissolved and
accumulated fecal matter. I was merely pointing this out to you with the hope
that you wouldn't do it to another living creature. Do try to understand,
please. Anthony>
Anemones
Thank you for the prompt reply! Based on your reply, I've already
removed the colt and cauliflower corals from my tank. I will turn
this into an anemone and clam tank.
<all are better for it... very good>
As far as clams go, I've done a lot of research and have pretty much come to the
conclusion I should be able to keep any of the Tridacna sp. without any
problems.
<with the limitation that T. crocea and T. maxima species have to be kept in
the top 10" of water under your VHOs. Have you read the Tridacnid sample
chapter of our new book? Here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/BookMatters/WWM/NMA-RI/NMA-RI_Tridacnids-demo.pdf
>
If you'd give me your quick opinion based on my tank specs it would help in
planning and making sure the creatures in my care survive and thrive (that being
very important to me, even more so than the cost involved to an extent). There
are no other corals in the tank. Livestock is your basic clean up
crew... hermits, snails, sand sifting starfish.
<keep an eye on those hermits with the clams>
Adding an emerald crab and some other various clean up type snails tomorrow
<avoid crabs of all kinds... they are opportunistic predators. Adult
Mithraculus (emeralds) can kill fishes and clams>
(if liveaquaria ships my order grr!). Also one common cleaner -
Lysmata sp. Approximately 25lbs live rock. 1.5" deep
fine aragonite sand bed.
<I'd like deeper or more shallow sand... never in between 1-3": not deep
enough for good anoxic activity but too deep for efficient aerobic activity>
One Premnas biaculeatus, also one dragonet (forgot Latin taxonomy for it) which
I am giving to a fellow reefer with a 150gal tank so it can thrive (uninformed
purchase - never ever will I do that again). Unknown form of green,
stalked, branching macro (possibly a Chaetomorpha sp.?). Adding
Gracilaria tomorrow. Some pest majanos in the tank as well, but none
are larger than 1/4" and for now they are more pretty than they are pesty.
<agreed>
Bakpak2 skimmer, AquaFuge 3.25 gal refugium, with 1.5lbs live rock and 1.5"
deep aragonite sand bed. Tank measures
30"Lx12"Hx12"W. 55w PC x2 - 1 10k and 1 03
actinic. Lights are about 1.5" from surface of water with 1/16
acrylic in between.
<awesome placement of lights... never more than 3" off water for
fluorescents>
What other inverts besides clams could I safely keep with my anemones in this
tank?
<the list of appropriate and safe animals is staggering. Too long to mention
here indeed. Simply avoid stinging animals (other anemones and corals>
Also, should I dump the bleached sickly anemone?
<I'm going to smack you <G>. Let me quote you from the paragraph above:
"making sure the creatures in my care survive and thrive (that being very
important to me, even more so than the cost involved"... a direct quote. In
fact... forget the smack- where do you live? I'm going to burn some frequent
flyer miles and fly out to kick you in the jimmy. Heehee... Ahh, my answer in
other words is... no. Don't give up on the anemone. It is no more of a risk than
your healthy anemone waiting until you go to work and then diving into an
overflow or pump intake.>
I'm afraid if it dies it will take my healthy one with it and all my livestock.
<the same risk you take getting married... deal with it <G>>
I cannot thank you and the crew enough for all the help provided to the
hobbyist!
<and thank you for being good humored fodder for my sense of humor or at
least attempts at it :) >
BTW, as far as the consulting goes, I would pay to use your site, and I would
pay well. I am sure anything paid in dues for your expertise would
pay for itself in the long run. Luckily I've made very few mistakes
(at least I learned how to research while I was attending university) with my
nanotank so far, and have corrected several possible disasters, mostly due to
advice from your site and published works. Once again, a heartfelt
thank you for what you provide to the aquarist community!
<thanks kindly for saying so... but we barely have the motivation to write
books <G>, I'm sure we are too laid back to collect money for a pay site.
I would rather sit back, answer e-mail and scratch myself for free. Best
regards, Anthony>
Clams, Anemones and Crabs
Anthony I can keep the crocea and maxima species in the top 10" of my
tank. I might have to rearrange some of my rockwork, but that's
alright. I'm going to check out the sample chapter in just a
moment. I'm sure it will be excellent reading. I thought emeralds
were ok with clams. Hmm. Might move it to the 34gal as
well then.
<there are no crabs that are wholly reef safe... all are scavengers. Some
favor algae but none to exclusion. Mithraculus (Mithrax) emerald crabs literally
grow large enough to eat after a few years. They can pull down 4" fish at
that time. So if something is weak or sleepy enough... its fair game. I
personally enjoy many crab species and fine them interesting. I would almost
never put them in a reef tank though>>
I'll leave it in until I acquire clams though, as it'll help
with the algae (small bloom, probably due to the every other day feeding of
zooplankton to the anemones... switching to small cuts of silversides
soaked in Selcon so that should help with the nutrient pollution as will the
further stocking of my refugium).
<exactly my friend... the problem isn't a lack of crabs, we just need better
control of nutrients. You can continue to feed heavy too (I almost prefer it)...
just be more aggressive with skimming, water flow and water changes (weekly
carbon changes too)>
They have been easy enough to catch for me. After re-measuring the depth of my
sand bed it's around 1"-1 1/4" deep. I had read from many
sources that a sandbed deeper than 3" on a tank my size
is next to worthless.
<I would disagree... and I have some experience here. I imported 48,000
pounds of sand for my greenhouse and coral farm. Used it in every way imaginable
for the last decade. Pictures of it in my Book of Coral Propagation. I'm not
saying I'm right.. just that I have a valid contention>
I suppose I could pull out more sand without any issues though,
<agreed>
and remove the starfish to the other tank as well since this will be lacking the
depth for it to be comfortable.
Yes I noticed in some of my physics classes the effect of lighting through the
atmosphere and the surface of water.
<huge>
I've actually been able to lower them down to about 1" off the
surface. That brings up a good question.. I have an
overflow on my skimmer. It helps with the surface gunk but there is
still more there than I would like. Any ideas?
<I'm not sure what the question is specifically>
Smack me all you want! muahah I slap back! I was thinking
of the rest of my livestock in case the bleached anemone were to
die.
<how about putting it in your waiting quarantine tank then and resisting the
purchase of a new organism until the anemone recovers, dies or a second QT tank
is purchased. A 20 gallon tank in a South or East facing window would be very
fine for anemones>
Better to let it go alone than to take my entire
tank. hehe But I definitely see your point, and will keep
it. It will be a good test of my husbandry skills - to nurse it back
to health.
<agreed <G>>
Did not mean to seem hypocritical with the statement about flushing it.
<no worries... I know that you really meant that you would find another
aquarist in your area to carry the torch for it anyway. No destroying right?>
That said, I just ran out of test kits and since I needed a better quality test
setup I just ordered a full Salifert test kit. Tests some 9
parameters of my water. I should be able to keep a closer eye on
water quality with that one. Not to mention more accurate.
Err I'm getting married soon! Don't scare me! Hmm scratching is good!
Any aquascaping suggestions for an anemone/clam tank? Never really
seen or heard of one. Right now I have kind of an island like this
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that is the top view.
<you really have way to much time to spend on the computer<G>>
Probably a side view would be more important considering clam
placement.
<do a keyword search on Reefcentral.com for "Japanese reef
aquariums"... some excellent and artistic examples>
There aren't really any flat areas that a clam would likely be comfortable
on. I can put the Squamosas and derasas in the substrate ok,
<agreed... but still with a flat rock buried underneath them in the sand to
protect against predation>
but any croceas and maximas will be hard to place I believe.
Hrmm. Aquascaping isn't my forte... yet. Give
me more practice! I can be very artsy ya know. hehe
Wow I'm full of questions.
<I would certainly agree that you are full of it>
I really hope I am not bothering you.
<heehee... no worries. We are here to answer and abuse you with pleasure>
Just so you know your time is not in vain, as I am learning more and more every
day, especially through such e-mail correspondence! RVM
<very good to hear... do pass your wisdom along in kind. Best regards,
Anthony>
Snakelock Anemones
Dear all
<Hi, James, JasonC here...>
My name is James and I'm a marine biology student in the UK.
I currently working on my dissertation on Snakelock anemones [Anemonia viridis],
I'm having great difficulty in collating any information on any aspects of there
feeding behaviour.
Therefore if you could help me in any way it would be gratefully appreciated.!
<Well... this was a bit of a stumper. We typically deal with species that are
tropical, but what I did was enter that common name into the Google search
engine to find that Latin name along with four pages of links. I would suggest
that you start there.>
Thanks
<Good luck with your research.>
James
<Cheers, J -- >
Copper & Anemones
Hi,
<Hello Leanne>
I have a question on copper and anemones. I have a 125 gallon tank
that I recently treated with copper to eliminate diseases. I removed
my anemones and inverts to another tank and they are doing fine. I
have done several water changes on my 125 gal. tank and the copper level is at
or below .05. Is it safe to put my anemones and inverts back in my
main tank.
<No, not until there is absolutely no detectable copper>
If not, what can I do to eliminate the copper. I have
been running with charcoal and have approx. 100 lbs of live rock in this
tank. Please help if you can. Thank you so much in advance
for any advice.
<You may need to use a "better" variety of activated carbon, or
even a product called PolyFilter. Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/curemovalfaqs.htm
Bob Fenner>
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Macrodactyla doreensis: LTA anemone
Thank you very much for providing such a fine
service.
<thanks kindly for noticing/appreciating. Do pass a good word along
please>
I recently added the attached anemone to my tank, but my
false percula is not taking it up after a few
weeks. Can you help me ID this anemone,
<Macrodactyla doreensis... "Green Long Tentacle >
and what clowns it will host?
<very few natural species: The Pink perideraion clown, and the brown
polymnus saddleback. Most others are rare occurrences>
I have a feeling it is a regular LTA,
<correct>
and would not host a false perc but maybe a pink skunk clown or
other?
<correct again, my friend. Still... a very nice anemone and reasonably
hardy>
Thanks again crew.
<best regards! Anthony>
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