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Bristle/Fireworms, Polychaete Behavior FAQs
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Identification, Polychaete Compatibility, Polychaete
System, Polychaete Selection, Polychaete
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Bristleworms... Observations...
Reproduction and Removal 10/21/07
Hey Team:
<Hi John, Mich here.>
Not really a question today, just more of an observation. I was scraping my tank
walls and creating quite the amount of wave action ;). During the process tons
of red bristle worms came out and began hanging half way out of the rocks and
then releasing a red (pinkish) fluid into the water
<Possibly reproductive materials.>
I am sure they do this all the time, however, it was the first time I had
witness such occurrence.
<Neat!>
Also was a great opportunity to pick out some of the longer ones.
<Thanks for sharing. Mich>
John
Night of the Triffids... polychaete repro. event 4/25/07
Tonight (April 24, 2007) before the lights went off watching my tank (200
gal, 7 years old) I saw something truly strange.
Water started changing into milky colour, very quickly.
Worms, light pink, between 1-2 ", looked like bristly (but I've a doubts - I use
something similar for fishing)
<Yes>
sticking their heads from all over and spitting white sperm-like matter.
<This and eggs>
Didn't know so many in my tank. Hundreds of them!
Bottom - No sand - shells only and rocks.
Fishes were bothered a little by the whole situation; corals and anemones not at
all.
During the day, when I vacuum tank's bottom, always get a good bunch of them.
If that what happened is what I think it is - I'm in trouble: in the near future
there will be infestation of these worms in my tank.
One good thinks - they have to eat what is left on the bottom after snails,
crabs and shrimps.
After few hours water is still white cloudy. What in the world what that?
Night of the Triffids? I presume.
Marcin Mankowski
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/polychaebehfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Bristleworm and Cat Shark Issues – 4/17/07
Hello.
<Hi there!>
We recently hatched a small banded cat-shark in our 90gallon tank. (Don't worry,
when he grows he will be destined for a much larger 240gallon)
<Mmmm, hopefully that will be soon as these sharks grow very quickly in their
first year. I wouldn’t have recommended anything smaller than a 125g to start -
for the shark alone!>
Last night I had the flashlight out watching him feed on ghost shrimp, as his
appetite has been hit or miss in the first few weeks.
<Not unusual in a very young shark. Am concerned though, about its well being in
a crowded community tank. Sharks, especially just out of the case, are
vulnerable and in need of some quiet and care. A situation such as this could be
very stressful/detrimental. Please watch for aggression (picking/nipping) from
other fish, along with any signs of decline.>
While doing this, I noticed a few large orange puffs appear in the tank. I
watched, and found some large (~3inch) bristle worms would stick one end in the
air and "discharge" a milky orange looking cloud. I managed to film one of them
doing this.
<Neat! By the way, thank you for sharing this experience with us. It helps us
all!>
Then I noticed several of the smaller ones doing it on a much smaller scale. The
entire tank became as cloudy for a bit. Now, my questions are
1) What were they doing?
<Likely releasing gametes/spawning.>
2) Was it harmful to the tank?
<No, just added to the nutrient load.>
3) Our population seems to have really exploded since our arrow head crab died.
<Yes, rapid population increase likely due to a nutrient problem, combined with
the loss of a predator. Decrease/export nutrients and the bristleworm population
will fall on its own, to more normal levels. Please see this link regarding
nutrient control:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nutrientcontrol.htm.>
I am hesitant to get another, as we have a fire shrimp and a red striped shrimp
that I am worried would be no match for an arrow head.
<Given the chance, the shark will eat these first, then go after any slow fish
you have (mandarin).>
What would you recommend as a population controller in our tank?
<(See above) Unfortunately, your tank is more than overcrowded, which is putting
a strain on your system’s ability to process the bio load (and it's only going
to get worse as the shark grows). It’s also not an ideal situation for the
inhabitants. Please read these links for more information on shark keeping and
compatibility:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharkcompfaqs.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/sharkslvgrm.htm>
FYI, in addition to the shrimp and cat-shark we have the following: 2 blue
damsels, 2 silver damsels a coral beauty, and angel, a yellow tang, a large
clown fish, and a mandarin goby.
Todd Aston
<Take care and good luck! -Lynn>
Re: Coco Worm with "heads" that change
color! 1/30/07
Here are some sequential pictures taken about 1 to 2 seconds apart.
It did this for several weeks then sort of settled into the pink color
until it shed it's "heads". After it grew a new pair of heads, the color
switching began again and is still changing colors now. It is getting
close to full size again so I don't know what's next!
<Call the News Channels! Yes, I'm serious>
The color changes are very easy to see any time of day under any
lighting.
We also have video documenting color change in real time.
Don't know if we have the only one or they are common but I've never
seen anything quite like it.
Thanx! For your time
Rick Oppermann
<Thank you for sharing. Bob Fenner> |
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Electric worm in my reef tank! 9/4/06
Dear Mr. Fenner,
<Derek>
This evening I decided to have a look in my reef tank while the lights were
all out, in the hope I might see one of the many creatures that spend the day
hidden in holes in the rocks.
<Is really a fun, neat time for observation>
Well, I saw my boxer shrimp behaving a bit odd, looking like he'd caught
something, so I looked closer hoping it wasn't one of my fish. At first I
couldn't see anything in his claws but he seemed to be wrestling with something.
A moment later two thin strips of vivid electric blue lit up between his
outstretched claws and he jumped back like he'd put a pincer in the mains
socket.
<Ah, yes, phosphorescence... not uncommon in the wild>
I continued to watch, trying to adjust my eyes to the dark water, and again
a flash of blue, the shrimp jumped back again. Eventually I could see he'd
caught what looked like a 2.5" long worm. It was too dark to make out properly,
and I didn't want to suddenly light the whole tank up, but the worm looked thin
and flat, and while the boxer tried to eat it the worm shot lines of really
bright electric blue along its body.
<A type of reflex defensive mechanism>
it looked like the shrimp was chewing on a live wire, but the most beautiful
blue glow. The glow clearly hurt the shrimp, though he didn't give up, and at
this moment the boxer appears to have won and is slowly eating the worm. Now
that the glowing has stopped the worm looks very plain and could easily be a
bristle worm, but do they glow like that?
<Can, yes>
Whatever this is it has me very excited, I'm amazed to see an unidentified
glowing creature in my little reef. I almost wanted to stop the boxer killing it
but short of pulling every rock out there was no way I'd separate them, and I
also wondered if this worm could be a danger to the fish anyway.
I'm a big fan of Wet Web Media and have spent many hours reading through
your FAQ's, so when I saw this unexpected and unidentified creature I thought of
contacting you first. Have you any idea what it was?
<Yes... an instance of (observed) bio-phosphorescence...>
Did I get all excited about something common?
<Mmm, not commonly seen in captivity>
I'm fairly new to reef keeping but to me this felt like some kind of
discovery ;) I tried to get it on my digital video camera but it was too dark to
see anything.
I'd love to know your thoughts. I've tried looking for similar things online
but turned up no clues at all.
Thanks in advance for your time, and thanks for the great site.
Regards,
Derek
<Do take a look/see on the Net with the term: "biological
phosphorescence/luminescense in the sea" in your search tool/s. Bob Fenner>
Re: Electric worm in my reef tank! 9/4/06
Dear Bob,
<Derek>
Many thanks for your reply. I feel very privileged to have seen this if it
is not commonly observed in captivity. Now I'm trying to find out what the
tiny star shaped white things are on my glass, they look sort of like tiny
white starfish (in shape only) but with only 4 stubby 'legs'... they're
maybe 5mm in diameter.
<Mmm, likely Asterina sp.>
I've only ever seen two in the tank (at one time). Any ideas would be very
welcome...I'll continue my search on that.
<Look up this name>
I'm completely fascinated by all the unusual creatures/organisms that appear
in or grow on my reef unexpectedly. It's great to have WWM as a resource to
help identify them, and to have your personal replies is just fantastic.
Thanks again for your time.
Best regards,
Derek
<Welcome. BobF>
Feather Duster - 03/11/2006
Hello, my fishy friends!
<Hi>
Thanks for all the help - and the confusion (bristleworms, good or bad? 6-line
wrasse, "really" reef-safe or not?) ;-)
<Mmm, welcome>
I think I have found the answer to my question in the FAQ's, just trying to
verify. A couple of weeks ago I bought one of the small feather dusters
(red/white head, tube about 3" long, smaller in diameter than a pencil). I
drip-acclimated him like I do everything, then put him in a crevice where the
bottom of the tube would be in the substrate. I never once saw him come out of
his tube. A few days later I noticed that he wasn't getting much light where he
was so I was going to move him,
<Mmm, best not to>
but when I removed the tube it seemed empty. I didn't actually watch the guy at
the LFS bag him, but I left
the tube in my tank just to be sure in case he was still in there.
<Good>
Now, this morning when I turned the lights on in my nano, there was a tan lump
about the size of an M&M sticking out of one of my pieces of live rock. Once the
lights went on, it started pulsating and eventually disappeared.
The tank is about a month old and everything in it either came out of my
60-gallon tank or I bought as a frag. Is that thing my feather duster?
<Could very well be>
I have a lot of small feather dusters in my other tank, but since the heads come
directly out of live rock I don't know what their bodies look like. If that is
him, will he decide tube-life is not for him and make his new home in my live
rock?
<Will actually generate another "tube"... What a planet eh? Bob Fenner>
Thanks!
Spaghetti Worm? 8/23/05
Thanks for providing this excellent service.
<Welcome>
I've learned an incredible amount browsing through your FAQs. My question has
to do with what I believe is a spaghetti worm. It never shows itself, and never
changes position, but it sends out about 8 long, white tentacles, about 6-8
inches long. My problem is that every so often, it emits a dense cloud of what
looks to be organic material that eventually clouds my tank.
<Ahh! Likely waste and/or reproductive products>
Sometimes it's yellow-green, other times it is black. Is that stuff harmful? Or
could it be beneficial?
<Likely a bit of both, but not very dangerous>
I have a flowerpot coral, brain coral, couple of small starfish and a coral
beauty angel. My tank is 50 gal, with about 35 lb. live rock, and I'm using
the deep sand bed method. Thanks very much.
Bob
<Thank you for writing, sharing. Bob Fenner>
Really Weird Things Happening In My Tank: Bristleworms? - 06/11/05
Hi Crew! I have tried to find out on your site and in my books about what
happened in my tank 2 nights ago; if you can direct me, I would appreciate it!
<<Can...and will.>>
I was just admiring my 75 gal. tank which is over 1 year old, but I had just
bought it off a friend who was moving and have been living the Life Aquatic for
only 2 months now: I am really new at this, but I Love it!
<<Me too! Much wonderment to be discovered.>>
I have a serpent star, lots of little blue-leg hermits, huge turbo snails, 2
conch snails, 2 blood shrimp, 2 perc clowns and a yellow tang in with ~90lbs
live rock and crushed coral sand bottom. The parameters are tested weekly (which
are stable and healthy) and water changed every other week. I have added a
torch coral, frogspawn coral, a gorgeous bubble tip anemone, pompom coral,
Ricordea mushroom, candy cane coral, green star polyps and pulsating xenia. As
I was admiring the beauty of the tank after work at about 7pm, Suddenly!: there
was an explosion of milky-white liquid shoot up from behind the rock in the
center of the tank. I tried to see where it came from and then noticed another
shot of white liquid shoot from the end of the tank, and a couple minutes later
another shot from the other end! I turned off the flow to see if I could find
out what was happening from above over the rock. It was coming out from the
holes in the live rock! And it continued to spurt from all over the tank in
random places, clouding the water, but not appearing to affect the fish or the
corals. Then I saw "IT": A HUGE-ENORMOUS bristle worm slithering thru the rock
(maybe 6" long and 1/4" diameter) and when the tail end got to the opening in
the rock, blasted out another shot of white liquid! Then I saw here and there
other small pinkish coloured bristle worms poking out of rocks here and there:
they were ALL doing it! So I Think I know the WHO part of the scene. My
questions are: WHAT were they doing and WHY were they doing it, DO they Do that
ALL the time/WHEN will they do that again?
Should I try trapping them and getting rid of them or is this a good thing that
is happening??? I turned the power heads and skimmer back on and added 2 jugs
of R.O. water and the cloudiness cleared up and I have watched and waited for 2
days, and everyone looks fine and don't appear to have suffered any ill effects
and it hasn't happened again since: not that I have been around to witness
anyway...Nature never ceases to amaze me! Thanks for any information that you
can steer me to! Rita (of RnR)
<<Well Rita, it would seem you have witnessed a spawning event. Little to worry
about as you have discovered. Much more info to be found here, and at the links
in blue:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/bristlewrmfaqs.htm Regards, Eric R.>>
Feather Duster Lost Its Crown - 06/07/05
Hello,
<<Howdy>>
I bought a feather duster from my LFS 3 weeks ago. Its seems to be doing fine
during those weeks. This afternoon, I noticed that the whole crown has fallen
down and got itself stuck between my LR and my sand. I looked at the crown and
the crown seems to be intact. I thought it maybe in pieces like shedding hair
but it seems to be a full crown intact.
<<Not uncommon.>>
The tube opening has folded close a bit but no feather/crown on site. I am
afraid to pull the tube out since I am not sure if the worm is still in the tube
or not.
<<Don't pull out the tube. The worm has dropped its crown for any number of
reasons (have a read here and at the blue links listed at the top of the page:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/feather.htm). If it's not being picked on or
suffering from damage/poor water quality it will likely reemerge in a few
days/week with a new crown.>>
Read some article about the worm occasionally losing its crown but I thought it
would be more like losing someone's hair, in many pieces, not one big crown.
<<Nope..."many pieces" usually indicates predation.>>
The question that I have is that the crown is that attached to the worm? Is my
worm still in its tube or is it attached to the crown.
<<In the tube...give it a few days.>>
thanks Louie
<<Regards, Eric R.>>
- Stange Bristle Worm Behavior -
We have a 265 gallon coral tank. We have noticed for many months that we
have some very large bristle worms and have been trapping them whenever we can.
<If I could encourage you to keep these... most bristle worms with the exception
of the super-large ones [12" or better] are harmless and in the larger sense
desirable, part of the natural order of things, and fill a vital role in marine
systems. Better to get a fish that would prey on these and keep the population
under control.> We also have 2 large sumps full of live rock that are also
attached to the main tank. We were moving around the live rock in the sumps and
when we went upstairs to the main tank the water was cloudy. That is when we
noticed that the bristle worms (more than we knew we had) were behaving
strangely. They all came out of hiding and began to wiggle. Then they
discharged this orange color stuff. We caught about 18 bristle worms with just
tweezers within about 15 minutes. It seemed that whatever they were doing was
more important than getting caught. We have never seen this before and I have
tried looking up bristle worm behavior and have not found anything like what we
have seen. Would you know what this is and why all of them were doing this at
once? <I can take a guess.> They all came to the front of the tank to do this
almost like they wanted to be in the main flow. <It occurs to me that many
invertebrates have an amazing chemo-sense... the ability to detect certain
compounds in the water, and these mostly relating to food items. My wild guess
is that your disturbance of the rock in the sump likely let go detritus that the
worms would normally construe as food.> Thanks for any help in advance.
Kevin M.
<Cheers, J -- >
Feather Duster
Hello,
<Hi, Graham at your service.>
We finally found your wonderful site of information.
<We're glad that you find the site useful!>
We have a 75 gal. that has cycled. It is about 1 month old. We
just recently added 2 Hawaiian feather dusters. This morning we saw
that one of them has completely left his tube with crown. It also had
a web like matter coming from it. What could be the
problem?
<Many times tube worms will leave their tube due to stress- possibly
something is bothering it, too much current, or poor water conditions.>
We are feeding it DTs phytoplankton. We have a crushed coral
substrate. Will it be able to re-build its tube with that substrate?
<Fortunately, in a healthy environment, the worm will be able to regrow its
tube within weeks or months.>
Thank you!!!
<Take Care, Graham.>
Joan Tipton
Fat Bristle Worms
I read your questions and answers every day and I can not tell you how much
help you have been to me. I think I have avoided a lot of problems by
reading the daily facts and questions every day.
<I know I have by trying to respond>
I do have a question about bristle worms. I read several of Jason's answers
(while you were diving) to various people about the fat bristle worms and
they were not desirable. I have seen fat bristle worms in my tank, but to
date they have posed no problems. I do also have the spaghetti sized bristle
worms. I have a flame hawk and a long nosed hawk as well as a six line
wrasse. What is the problem with the fat bristle worms. I never read
anything that told me why they were not desirable? Maybe I missed something
but I want to learn.
<The fear is that larger (fatter) species, individuals might prove too predaceous>
I have a 30 gal w/protein skimmer, (2) 301 power heads w/quick cartridges and
1 Penguin Bio Wheel outside filter 300. I have the above mentioned fish and
1 skunk clown as well as 1 blue yellow-tailed damsel. I have various
fragments of soft and hard coral. My water parameters are very good. I don't
know whether to be worried or not.
<I would not worry>
Thank you for all you do for this very
enjoyable hobby!
<You're welcome>
I intend to purchase you book! I do spend a lot of time
printing your articles so I have them for reference.
Susan in Atlanta
<Ah, I hope they help you as much as they have helped me in their production (leading forward). Bob
Fenner>
Bristle worm behavior
Hello Mr. Fenner,
<Actually Steven Pro (part of the www.WetWebMedia.com crew) in this morning.>
My name is Tori and I work full time with fish in the aquarium trade as head of a large fish room here in Washington. My question to you is, have you ever actually seen a bristle worm eat?
<Not really eat per se, I have seen them scavenge around. Most that I have witnessed are rather small.>
(I have the classic bristle worms in every picture, the red with the black ends, and white, spaced, bristles) I have a fifty gallon reef that's been up for approximately one year. I have a few fish (no more then seven inches total) coral, clams, shrimps and lots of filtration (as I said, its my business ;)). I have just embraced the bristle worm invasion in my system, and just decided its my little eco system no matter what, and if its nothing but
Caulerpa, rock, and bristles, so be it.
<I find most bristle worms to be harmless to beneficial scavengers. The seem most prolific in tanks that are over fed, as there is then an abundance of food for them to scavenge.>
That said, tonight I was sitting looking at the tank, and noticed one of the very largest of my "pests" (9 3/4 inches because I measured him)
<A rather large individual.>
and all of the sudden it took a huge "bite" of Caulerpa!
<Interesting! You would not have happened to photograph the event?>
The mouth looked similar to a snails mouth with the disk teeth. Then it seemed to avoid the large copepods moving around it in the sand, and the little brittle stars too, and went back to the exact same branch of
Caulerpa after painstakingly searching it out and finished it off!
<A series of pictures of this would be great!>
I was just floored!
<I am a bit surprised, too. They are omnivorous, though.>
I thought they eat clams and coral.
<Mostly detritus, extra/uneaten food, etc.>
So, I was hoping you may know of at least on other person who has actually seen one eat.
<I have seen them swarm dead fish, but nothing like what you are describing.>
Thank you again for all your time.
live, swim, grow ~Tori Craig
<I try to do the living and swimming part as much as possible, but I do have to try to stop the growing (mostly width-wise) now. -Steven Pro>
Feather Duster Question 3/8/04
Hey: I have a feather duster question... I have had
one for about two weeks and now he starts coming out of his tube... but he goes
back in if he gets scared... Looks like he gets out and his crown is
out and he looks around with it or something... Is something wrong
with him or is this normal.. Thanks a lot
<It is probably normal. Feather duster tubes are often damaged in
transport. It will be reconstructed in time if the animal is healthy
and getting enough food. Losing "feathers" from it's crown
would be a bad sign. Best Regards. Adam>
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