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FAQs about Snappers, Family Lutjanidae
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A Bluestripe Snapper, Lutjanus kasmira off Maui, Hawai'i. |
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Fishbase not helping. can you help identify please?
8/6/08
Hello there!
I Hope this finds all of you well. I have spent a week and many hours
pouring over fishbase trying to determine exactly what I have here. I
scuba dive in the Gulf of Mexico and got these guys about a month ago.
They seem to be doing very well in my quarantine tank but before I think
about keeping them or moving them to one of my display tanks I really
need to find out exactly what they are. The first guy was found in grass
beds and I think I have determined he is from the Combtooth blenny
family. Perhaps a Florida Blenny ?
Would you agree ?
<Mmm, this is/was a bit of a teaser... am out in HI, away from in-print
ref. works... thinking that I could see a bit more of the vomer, I
thought maybe this was/is a Lutjanid... taking a look on Fishbase,
sorting by the family info, species... I do think this is Hoplopagrus
guentherii... a juvenile Mexican Barred Snapper
http://fishbase.org/summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=1393>
This one however I have NO idea. He was found in some fairly strong
waves amongst some rocks. They were quite plentiful and seemed to share
hiding spots.
And should you be able to help with those two above there was another
guy that I was unable to catch in my slurp gun. I am hoping a
description may be able to help in figuring out what he was. The elusive
guy looked to me very much like a 6 line wrasse. He did have a bit more
yellow on his fins and seemed a bit wider in his body. I would say his
body looked more like a grouper or perhaps a mis-shaped Hawaiian Wrasse.
<Mmm, there are several species...>
I realize that it could not be that since I was in the Gulf of Mexico
off the coast of Florida. Any ideas on what he might have been ?
<Not from this description, sorry>
I will be going back to the same area and hope to have better luck next
time.
Thanks in Advance for any help you can give.
I fear I am going cross eyed from looking at all of the pictures online.
Thanks So Much !
Ralph
Port Charlotte, Florida
<Thank you for sharing! Bob Fenner> |
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Mystery Snapper -
Marine or Freshwater? 4/7/08
Hello folks!
<Hi Neale!>
I recently saw this fish in a *freshwater* aquarium. It's apparently a
snapper or porgy of some kind, but not being an expert on marine fish,
I'm not sure which one. Any ideas?
<My careful guess (!) simply by comparing pictures would be a seabream
Acanthopagrus berda. They do occasionally occur in freshwater,
especially the young. However, they get much bigger than indicated by
the picture. Maturity at about 20 cm and maximum length reported around
90 cm. The dorsal spine number from your picture also seems to match,
but all together I am not perfectly convinced by the ID and will leave
the email for others to see. In the meantime here's a nice picture of A.
berda:
http://fishpix.kahaku.go.jp/fishimage-e/detail?START=27&FAMILY=Sparidae&SPECIES=&LOCALITY=&FISH_Y=&FISH_
M=&FISH_D=&PERSON=&PHOTO_ID=&JPN_FAMILY_
OPT=1&FAMILY_OPT=0&JPN_NAME_OPT=1&SPECIES_OPT=1&
LOCALITY_OPT=1&PERSON_OPT=1&PHOTO_ID_OPT=2>
It's apparently been in freshwater tanks for the last couple of years at
least, and appeared to be in perfect health.
Cheers, Neale
<We've kept seabreams from the black sea in brackish water tanks, but
I've never encountered them in freshwater. The ones from the black sea
were pretty much euryhaline, but stayed significantly smaller than in
nature, which wasn't surprising. Cheers, Marco.>
Re: Mystery Snapper -
Marine or Freshwater? 4/7/08
Hello Marco,
<Hi Neale.>
Thanks for the name! I agree with you 100% about the genus at least,
though I'm wondering about Acanthopagrus latus as well.
<Very well possible. Fin colours can be used for differentiation, but
its better to see the fish in person or have it in front of a white
background to do that. A. latus is supposed to have a yellow caudal (vs.
grey at A. berda) as far as I know.>
In any case, you are quite right about the fact this fish is a porgy
rather than a snapper. The aquarium store manager called it a snapper,
so I was going along with that! Rather a cool fish, anyway. Cheers,
Neale
<For an ID guide to the mentioned and other similar species see ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/009/ad468e/AD468eMJ.pdf
. Photographs are in ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/009/y0770e/y0770e63.pdf.
Cheers, Marco.> |
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Red Emperor
Snapper, beh., reading, data 1/31/08
hey,
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I've had a red emperor snapper for about 4 months and it has pretty
much doubled his size since I got him but recently his been getting
red blotches when I turn off the lights in the tank and seems to
just stop swimming and floats there.
<Mmm, could be "normal" night time behavior... sort of behavioral
and marking camouflage against predators... but... what other fish
species are present?>
In the mornings he's better but it kinda worries me that one morning
I'll wake up to a dead fish. He's been worse since we added a powder
blue tang to our tank.
<Mmm, may feel threatened by this Acanthurus>
He did not have this problem with our damsel. Well hope to hear back
thank you.
<How large a tank? Lutjanus sebae gets very large... please... read
re these fishes care... systems, compatibility... at least on WWM.
BobF>
Snappers 9/20/06
I am have been looking for information on blue line snappers.
but I can not find much information on them could you give me some
information on the species Lutjanus kasmira?
<http://www.wetwebmedia.com/snappers.htm
; read this and the linked FAQs in blue at the top...Adam J.>
About blue line snappers 8/30/06
could you tell me how big they get and what size of tank they
would require?
I looked at the article and couldn't find this information. What should I be
looking for when if I purchase one?
<Mmm, Lutjanus viridis? Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/snappers.htm
There are at least three such lutjanids with this common nomen... Once you know
the species, take a look/see on fishbase.org
Bob Fenner>
Snapper compatibility
Dear Bob,
<Hi there>
I used to have a snapper living together with my golden maroon clown in
harmony...
the snapper, emperor, though larger in size, does not attack my clown...
it got a little active and big, so I transferred it to another tank. it has been
hand feeding well for a month.
<Neat>
I introduced a new baby snapper to my tank w my current golden maroon, both of
which are very similar in size. I understand from your site (highly recommended
by my uncle who's been rearing marines for a decade) that the snapper will not
attack fishes big in size it cannot digest...
<Usually not>
however, this new baby snapper, 3 days in my tank, has been biting the fins of
my maroon occasionally... unlike the other one that leaves harmoniously w my
clown.
Is there a way I can salvage the situation??
<Possibly. I'd try isolating the snapper in a "floating jail"... a plastic
colander (ask if you can use one... for straining spaghetti, other noodles
usually) in the tank for a few days... often "takes the spunk" out of fighting
fishes>
I thought maroon's are rather strong and aggressive fishes...
<Usually>
I don't understand the reason why but please note that my maroon's fins have
been bitten by the old snapper (by accident I'm quite sure) during feeding time
while they were rushing for food...
Some friends say its the size of the snapper same as clown) while others claim
different emperor snappers have different characteristics...
what should I do??
<Try the separation>
I've thought of keeping the maroon in a separate under tank till its fins heal
before moving it back w my snapper...
<Better to remove the snapper instead>
it seems a little scared of the baby snapper now, and doesn't look as happy and
active as before...
lastly, my friend has a black beauty snapper (very healthy) in his tank for
weeks already...can I include it in my tank?
<I'd wait till the current situation is resolved. Bob Fenner>
Re: Symphorichthys spilurus
Dear Jason <<Hello...>>
Thank you very much for your rapid answer. <<You are quite welcome.>>
Fortunately for his life, my Symphorichthys is about 20cm and the miniata 10cm. I removed the miniata this morning and tonight I plan to remove the sympho in the aim of rearing him alone in a 300l tank as long as he gets again his
magnificent dorsals rays. <<Glad to hear it.>>
You'll find attached to this email 3 pictures of it taken one month ago.
Thank you very much again
Cheers
Pascal
<<And cheers to you. J -- >>
Lutjanid/Snapper Input (brackish too!)
hello Robert,
I've been keeping fish for over 15 years. and I've always been fascinated by
the salt water species that are found or can live in freshwater. which some
I and wondering. do you have pictures of, the following :Lutjanus fuscescens,
Lutjanus goldiei, Lutjanus maxweberi
<Wow, struck out... Have pix of about twenty five species in this genus, but
none of these three. There are some drawings, one pic of them on fishbase.org>
I've kept and caught L. argentimaculatus many times, and they are awesome.
now I'm wondering about the rest in the genera.
<Have some coverage under the family name on our site here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/snappers.htm
and the associated FAQs beyond... Do agree with you re these fishes. Much
under-utilized, under-appreciated. Bob Fenner>
much appreciated.
Wes
Re: Lutjanid/Snapper Input (brackish too!)
hello Robert,
thanks for the prompt reply. I did find one picture of l. goldiei. here it
is.
let me know what you think of it.
<Good looking... and probably delicious barbecued! Bob Fenner>
Wes
about yellowtail snapper
How do I raise yellowtail snapper in open water cages? I'm not sure what to feed them in order to make them grow. I also have trouble keeping them alive. Is there any advice you can give me?
James >>
Is this a commercial (size, type) operation, trying to rear lutjanids for food? Or a hobby, speculative small scale venture? From what size to what size do you want to raise them? What other fin fish do you have aquaculture experience with?
Bob Fenner
Re: about yellowtail snapper
This is a test to see if yellowtail can be grown in captivity. the snapper are caught by hook and line in the normal way, chumming over the reef. they are not baby fish but are not full grown. I want to see if I can get them to grow over the legal limit which I
believe is 13 inches. They have been fed raw fish twice a day but are not growing. I don't have any other fin fish experience. I need to show up at the school with ideas on how to make the project work. I will be there for 1 semester but I have to present my findings to the Bahamian Government in
December. >>
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I see. Have you tried different diets? What sort of literature search(es) have you done to look into
Lutjanid culture? Which species of Lutjanus is this? Have you looked through the resources of FishBase?
Bob Fenner
Re: about yellowtail snapper
I haven't tried different diets because I haven't been to the school yet. I am trying to get an idea of what to do when I get there. I have been sent some information but not in great detail. I would like to know if there are any supplements that would help increase fish size. Also what type of cage do you
recommend for housing the snapper. The species is Yellowtail Snapper. >>
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Okay... pls cut and paste the following link to fishbase:
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Ocyurus&speciesname=chrysurus
for Ocyurus chrysurus... and click on the references section there, and look on our website for articles on how to search the literature to find what is currently known re this species, family... and its aquaculture: Home Page
Bob Fenner
Red emperor snapper
Bob, What is the largest Red Emperor Snapper You have in stock? Or, In the next two weeks? I would like to know the growth rate of this species also. Thanks , Ed Noble
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Gosh... am down in sunny southern California... and FFExpress/Petstore.com are in Emeryville, near San Fran... and their
liveholding/shipping facility is around LAX... but will send this note along, as my direct liaison, John
Caskie... who sorts through my feeble response attempts and edits (thank goodness) and posts a few will know how to get the answer to your query...
The snapper in question, Lutjanus sebae, gets to about a foot in length... and can do so within a year... if its fed (even starting tiny... most are imported at 3/4 to one inch) like it wants to be (i.e. all the time, a lot!)
Bob Fenner
Shy red emperor snapper
Delicious on a bed of rice and a lemon wedge! Actually, these beauties (Lutjanus
sebae)
are typically shy when new to a system or small... but they don't stay either with age and
rapid growth. Take care to only keep larger-than-mouth size tankmates with this gulper.
Bob Fenner
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