Browning SPS – 03/27/08
Many of my SPS that are toward the back of the tank are browning on the side
facing the back and many are brown on the lower half or third of the SPS. Is
this normal because light is not reaching the bottom of the SPS and maybe
there's not enough light at the back of the tank?
<<There are many things that can cause corals to “brown,” but based on your
statements, yes, I think it is likely due to a lack of light intensity/spectrum
in those areas>>
Is there any way to compensate for this or is this normal to only have color
where light shines?
<<”Compensation” would have to come in the way of providing enough light from
all angles (a common problem in most hobbyist’s systems), to include a
reflective substrate (Aragonite sand). Moving the corals more toward the
centerline lengthwise in the tank should provide better color on all
sides…adding more lights front-to-back and/or upgrading to better reflectors
would also probably help>>
Thanks very much for all your help.
<<Happy to share. EricR>>
Can't get the BLUES... color
coral sel... 07/28/07
Hi WWM Crew! I have a 1 year old 75gal mixed reef, which is slowly becoming
SPS dominated. I run 2x175 Iwasaki 15K MH bulbs, supplemented with 4x96watt PCs
(2 67K and 2 Actinics). MHs are on for 7hrs a day, and the PCs are on different
times of the day for a total of 10 hours. My SPS that are pink, red, purple,
green, and orange are doing great in growth and coloration. However, any SPS
that has blue coloration quickly turn brown, although they grow just as well as
my other SPS. Currently I have an Oregon Blue tort, and ORA blue tort, and a
German-blue polyp digitata. All 3 of these are turning brown. Do sps that have
blue coloration require higher temperature bulbs?
<Not necessarily. In fact, they may require less. Or it might even be what
you're feeding them or something about your water parameters. Even in academic
arenas, coral coloration is very poorly understood. (Maybe because, in these
perilous times, coral researchers don't really care so much if corals are blue
or brown so long as they're not dying.) In any case, your best bet is to find a
blue colored coral that has been kept under lighting exactly like yours for at
least several weeks (better if months). Please see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/spsbehfaqs1.htm>
Should I add more actinic lighting?
<Likely the only thing that will do is make everything *look* a little bluer.>
I have all 3 of the blue SPS species at the highest part of my tank directly
under the MH bulbs, but still they are browning.
<So move them down and see what happens. It's something of a myth that corals
only brown from lack of light. They can also brown from too much light (or for
some other as-of-yet unknown reason). But in any case, the coral can still be
very healthy, just not as pretty. If you just want some blue in your aquarium,
you could think about a blue crocea clam. :-)>
Thanks for any advice you can offer, Jonathan
<De nada,
Sara M.>
SPS TURNING YELLOW 01-01-06
Hello I just bought 2 SPS coral for my 55 gallon reef with 260 watts power
compact ( about 5 watts per gallon) a canister filter, protein skimmer,2 power
heads, and a heater, about 30 lbs live rock, 40 lbs live sand. Now for the fish
I have a yellow tang, maroon clown, mandarin goby, and bullet goby. My corals
are a finger leather, yellow polyps, 2 mushroom rocks, Ricordea, open brain,
cabbage coral bubble coral , 2 SPS on the same rock, and star polyps. My
inverts are a sponge, emerald crab, camel shrimp, coral banded shrimp, t. gigas
clam, bubble tip anemone,6 astray snails, and a large turbo snail. Also I have
a
medians hair algae, Chaeto ,needle algae. My water tested perfect.
<Sounds like a very full tank.>
My new SPS coral
that was a green brown color is now turning yellow. The other day I had to
catch
a clown fish and I took down the rock work to catch him. Is this because
stress did I kill it or is it new symbolic algae because lighting please help
I
love this coral thanks for the help. Sorry this letter was so long. Please
excuse the mis-spelled words I'm 11 years old thanks for the help love your web
site.
<First, let me thank you for the compliment. As for your question, you may have
three situations going on. The first situation could be chemical warfare in your
tank. To remedy this you will need to add carbon to your tank. The carbon will
also clear organics from your water making the lights more useful for your
coral. The second possibility is that you may be witnessing bleaching. If your
coral is bleaching you will need to upgrade your lighting to keep that coral or
remove the coral to a friend's tank until you can afford to upgrade your
lighting. The final situation you may be witnessing is; the corals may be
adjusting to your lights and will actually color up to a more natural color.
This situation is usually found more in tanks with very high watt lighting and
pristine water conditions. Travis>
Color of SPS Corals - 8/29/03
This message is for Anthony Calfo
<howdy>
Anthony, first off thank you for all your prior help in my 75 reef. It
is doing better today than ever largely due to your help. I
also have just purchased your book on Coral Propagation and an getting a lot out
of it.
<thanks kindly my friend>
Setup:
My current lighting is 2 URI 50/50 VHOs and 2 full actinic (440 Watts) + I added
2 96Watt Power compacts one each about 6 weeks ago (added one and waited 3 weeks
for the other). My alk I keep around 10DKH and Calcium around 350
using limewater dripped nightly.
<excellent numbers... keep steady and you do not have to worry about going
higher. Or if you want Ca higher... let the ALK fall to 8-10 dKH>
I also have to add about 1 teaspoon a day of Baking soda and about 15milliters
of Sea Chem Reef Complete (3 cap fulls) to keep these levels with my current
coral growth. I am going to try your method of Kalk dosing you
mention in your book. I am also feeding the fish and corals more
now (your prior recommendations).
<sweet>
My question concerns the colors of my SPS corals in my mixed reef. I
am starting to get really nice looking purple and orange colors out of my Acros
and my Montipora digitata. However, some of my green Acros and
Monti's are still not dark and vibrant as they should be. (My friend, the
Halide nut, wants me
to go to HQI halides. He has much nicer green colors then I do but my
purples are better than his). Does the green colors require more
intense lighting or is it something else?
<your friend is clearly mistaken... or at least missing the big picture.
Cnidarian pigments are as heavily influenced by feeding levels and water
clarity as they are the nature of light. Many factors here... with nitrate
levels (zero is not good... allow a few ppm to linger) and UV penetration (not
MH vs. PC... but glass canopy or no, being the issue here). That said... double
ended HQI halides are excellent lamps. My current fave>
Thanks again for your help.
P.S. one note out of your book. You mention coralline bleaching right
at a water line when doing water changes. I used to have a big
problem with this until I turned off my fans during the change. The
coralline does not seem to die off any more. I always thought the
bleaching was due to the intense evaporative cooling with the fans on.
<it really is a coincidence in your case... do consider that every piece of
live rock imported is out of water for a minimum of 4-7 days dry on import. The
reality of the industry is that unless you live in Los Angeles/port of entry...
your rock was out of water for 7-14 days on import. Air exposure is not an issue
here bub. By chance do your lights turn off with the fans? 'Tis light exposure
then>
Anyway, I really like the book and hope for a "part-two".
Andrew
<thanks kindly <G>... am penning the "Reef Fishes" volume of
our new NMA series as we speak <G> Anthony>
Color of SPS Corals II - 8/29/03
Anthony, thanks for the quick response.
<always welcome>
I am not sure I fully understand your answer. "and UV
penetration (not MH vs. PC... but glass canopy or no, being the issue here). That
said... double ended HQI halides are excellent lamps. My current fave>"
<my apologies... to be clearer, coral coloration in some cases is a matter of
UV exposure and not a matter of a specific type of bulb. No one bulb (not even
HQIs ;) ] can keep all corals in optimal color because some natural
pigments are stimulated by UV (producing attractive colored proteins produced to
reflect/refract it) while other corals are influenced unfavorably by it. You
could have the "perfect" lamp, if such a thing existed, but with a
glass or acrylic lens, your corals may not get the light they really need (for
other corals... the lens is necessary to prevent excess exposure). Point
being.., lenses clean... lenses dirty... lenses off and lenses on can all effect
coral coloration. So can proper use of carbon (weekly/daily) to maintain water
clarity or not. Coral colors simply are not only about lamp choice. And so...
experimentation will be necessary>
I did forget to tell you my tank is acrylic. I do keep the top very
clean though.
<yes... critical>
Would you say the green digita may not be getting enough UV?
<I could not possibly say for certain... even if we could confirm the ID
correctly, some specimens/colonies come from vastly distant areas of a reef and
have evolved to need different light qualities>
I am trying to feed more and like I said, my purple corals are really starting
to color up but the greens are not dark enough.
<indeed... the feeding is crucial for maintaining coral coloration. And like
the water clarity issues above, it is a double edged sword. Excess
nitrate/feeding can over fertilize corals, so to speak, and cause an
unattractive darkening (often brown). Experimentation>
You are correct about the nitrates. My tank do not register any with
my kit (Salifert).
<If your nitrates are truly zero... then do allow them to creep a bit (keep
under 5 ppm though). I must say, however, that I am not impressed with Salifert
test kits based on consumer feedback I hear>
Also, I am considering metal halides for an upgrade when all my bulbs reach the
6 month point. For my 75 reef considering it is acrylic, I am
thinking of going to 2 175 watt Ushio metal halides and run two full actinic
VHOs with my old Ice Cap ballast (going forward 4 bulbs to replace instead of
6). Would that help "punch more light" to the corals and
help with color?
<most definitely... a nice combination>
It is less total watts than I have now but I feel the halides might be better
here.
<correct... better penetration at depth>
Also, would you recommend a different setup with an HQI halide setup with 2 150s
or 250s?
<i cannot say without a list of species. We must [pick our species and
identify their needs before selecting lights>
I was worried about to much light and heat as I really do not want to over do it
(heat is a concern as I do not want a chiller).
Thanks again. Andrew
<no worries... 150 watt HQIs at 6" off the water or 175 watt
Ushios at 9 inches of the water will be nice either way, to generalize. Be sure
to keep those fluorescents no farther than 3" off the surface though. Best
regards, Anthony>
SPS Polyp Question - 8/20/03
Howdy Guys and Gals and anything else...
<whassup :)>
I have a quick question about Acropora frags. I have a few types of
Acro. frags as well as 1 small Acro colony. They tend to extend their
polyps only in the evening, which I read is normal.
<indeed... they feed on micro/nano zooplankton and 'tis the time such matter
comes out to play>
Is there a way to have them extend during the day?
<tweaking water flow can help... but a timed refugium (cycling with display
on a dedicated loop only by day and then simply circulated and batch treating
water by night) would do the trick. We talk about such aspects at great length
(more than any other book to date) in our new work "Reef
Invertebrates" (Calfo/Fenner)>
The PH is about 8.44 in the day and around 8.19 or so in the
evening. Is this too much of a fluctuation?
<slightly so yes... but has little to do with polyps extension>
Should the daytime be higher than 8.4?
<I suggest a night/day range of 8.3-8.6 with a fluctuation of not more than
.2 within it>
My 90G tank has about 1900GPH of flow, <excellent> none of the frags are
receiving any direct flow from the returns.
<as it should be>
Calcium is around 400, dKH 9. No ammonia, nitrites, or detectable
nitrates.
<all fine except the nitrates. SPS and most corals in captivity need a small
amount (a few ppm) of nitrate to feed on - they will starve slowly without it.
Color is affected too. European aquarists have taken to adding a sodium nitrate
solution (.1% Knop) to nitrate starved tanks>
The 1 colony I would have its polyps out for the first few weeks it arrived, but
it does not anymore. They all seem to be growing fine as
well. I have never seen any of the fish bother them, but then again,
who knows what goes on when I am at work! Thanks,
Paul
<maybe they are bashful. Or instead... perhaps they are modest - you haven't
been walking around the house buck nekid have you? You may have embarrassed
them. SPS have delicate sensibilities. best regards, Anthony>
Wants to get it Bigger
Hi guys. <How goes it, Michael here this evening> I'm hoping you can help me out. <Try my best>
Here's a quick tank profile:
90g/20gsump/20gref 2x250w 10k MH 1.025sg 79F. <So far so good>
I'm in college, so most of my stuff is diy. <I think we're all poor as students :|>
Here is my problem: I have been keeping my tank for 2 years now, 1 year in a 55g before I had to move, which
I will have to do again this summer (not far- not that that means it wasn't a pain in the ass the first
time). I only lost one snail during that move! <Nice>
Anyway, I have been keeping a little of everything, but few SPS. I have had good success with almost every coral I
have purchased, and I even had a frogspawn return from a skeleton that had been dead for six months. <Have to love corals' recuperative powers in a healthy system>
I only have a few (8, mostly small) fish. Salinity and temperature are kept almost perfectly constant. My
fish seem happy and soft corals, mushrooms and polyps reproduce fairly rapidly. I even have a neat pink
sponge that has covered almost all of the undersides of my LR. I also have 3 clams- I have had my squamosa
for about a year. <Are they all Squamosas?>
Anyway, things seem to be right, but the growth of my coral (mainly SPS) seems to be
dramatically slow. I have a brown Acropora frag that I have had for over a year, and it has grown maybe a few
millimeters. sad, huh? It's stuck out its polyps every single day and appears healthy, but there is little
growth or encrustation at all, with some bottom-up recession. <When a coral appears healthy and extends polyps as
usual, but doesn't actually grow much, something is deficient. Probably not enough food or not enough light. Acroporas are very light hungry corals (for the most part, there are many species in the
Acroporidae genus), much more so than your mushrooms, as these species are separated
by at least 60' of water in the wild>
I have a purple tortuosa frag that I have had for maybe six months- it hasn't receded, but the growth is almost
nonexistent- definitely unlike the time lapse sequences of acros that I have seen. I have
been using tech cb for quite some time almost everyday as well as Lugol's and I infrequently (~once a week)
add other stuff like magnesium, trace elements, strontium etc in small quantities. I add a little
plankton or black powder twice a week or so. Recently I purchased a ph probe to see if that was where my
problem was. It was around 8.0 during the day, but I have brought that up by drip dosing
Kalk steadily to
around 8.2/8.3 and I'm shooting for 8.4. Sorry about how lengthy this is. Should I be adding more
calcium/buffer or feeding much more plankton? <Well, your calcium levels should be around ~400 ppm if not closer to 450. Acroporas are very calcium needy, being stony corals. As for plankton, it will do them absolutely no good. If you've only been feeding plankton, this is probably why you're not seeing any growth, as they're slowly starving. Acropora sp. are very hungry, and need zooplankton to survive and flourish>
I thought that most of the corals were predominantly autotrophic. <Not nearly, they most definitely need feeding>
I am keeping the SPS frags in the highest flow areas of the tank. <Probably a good idea, but
really depends upon the subspecies>
I have an orange capricornis frag that is very healthy looking and has shown decent
growth (~1.5" in 5 months):(. Also, I have had various xenia colonies, which in my tank seem to move very
rapidly across the rockscape (with little growth) and then they either stay the same size and look good or
wilt. I know I'm doing something right because I have had my mandarin for 1.5 years and a leopard wrasse for
one, a colt coral that I grew from a small piece and now have to prune, and my tank is pretty cool looking
(but I have nightmares about some aquarium hotshot coming in and catching all of the problems I know I
have). If you need anymore info, just write me back. I
want a COLONY, not a one year old frag. thanks so much, Hunter Leber <What all are you feeding? What is your current lighting? A bit more info might help us get to the bottom of this. M. Maddox>
SPS Polyp extensions
Hello: <Hi Brian, MacL here with you today.>
I have a few questions I am hoping you can help me with.
First of all my tank:
265 gallon
3 175 20,000k MH's
4 96 watt PC's 2 actinic and 2 white light
100 gallon sump with a mega protein skimmer
30 gallon refug with 2 types of Caulerpa and a PC
7 power heads
500lbs live rock
3in aragonite
1/2hp chiller
WATER
1.024
380 cal
10dkh alkalinity
0 nitrate
0 nitrite
0 ammonia
Bionic and Kalk daily
LOTS of tangs, fire shrimp, cleaners, hermits, emeralds, 3 red bubble anemone and
more livestock all reef safe. I have 40-5- diff SPS colonies and frags. A few
SPS frog spawn brains etc. I have 2 softies one is huge but not waxy now. The
bottom line is the SPS have not been in the tank long and I am getting little
polyp extension. <Could be a few different things. Could be the spectrum of the
lights, the depth of the tank and the positioning of the corals in the
tank. You don't say how tall your tank is nor do you say how deep the corals
are positioned. The 175's may not be penetrating as deeply as you need in the
water. I would also be a little concerned that your calcium is a bit low for SPS.
How frequently do you do water changes? Good luck and let me know if we can help
you in any other way. You'll find numerous FAQs on the site about how to raise
your calcium and keep your tank in ionic balance. MacL>
Tank has only been up 4 months. Is there anything I can do to help.
Brian
Re: SPS Polyp extensions
Thanks: <Hey Brian, MacL here again>
The tank is 30 inches tall. Most of the SPS are within 12 inches of the surface.
I am doing water changes every 3 weeks. I will check my calcium again to ensure
accuracy and proceed with raising it. The big question I have had is that some
of the colonies are doing fantastic and others are not. Any ideas why? <Could be
a million different reasons, like the lighting they came from before they went
into your tank, or some stress that they received, something in your tank eating
on them,> Could this simply be due to the tank only being up for 4 months? I did
allow it to cycle for 5 weeks before adding any livestock. <A tank does take
time to age and become stable and when its unstable its hard on corals. I didn't
add any corals into my tank until it was over a year old because of that
although I do know people who have been very successful with newer tanks but
they constantly work to achieve that stability of calcium, ph and basics in the
tanks.>
Brian