I Saw an Angel, but She Didn't see Me.. What is This
Fish? Or, "OMG it's Gorgeous!"
Hey Bob,
<James>
Saw this while I was at the Okinawa aquarium - and can't figure out what it is? It's a pygmy, about 2.5
inches. Got any ideas?
<Yes... a very nice pic, individual of Centropyge interruptus, the Japanese
Dwarf Angel. BobF> |
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Dwarf angel question 03/26/07
I purchased this dwarf angel as a half black angel, however, I believe
it may be a Eibli/Half black hybrid. Could you give me your
opinion?
<I think you're right...>
If it is a hybrid, how rare is he?
<Mmm, "kind of"... there are numerous crosses within Centropyges... just
not often collected...>
how much does he usually sell for? (I got him for 25 bucks) and is
there an increased level of care for him?
<A bargain... Most places I know of would be twice or more this>
Thanks in advance,
-Brian
<Welcome. Bob Fenner> |
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Golden Pygmy Angel
Hey crew! A LFS was having a huge sale on livestock and tanks yesterday. I
went there to just look.. (yeah right) and when I got to the fish section the very first fish I saw was a Golden Dwarf Angelfish. I have never seen one of
these nor heard of them. The price tag was $90...
<A bit steep. My thinking was the Flame Angel is the priciest among this species.>
... and they had 30% off live stock so I could not say no. I really cant find a lot of info on this. I have
looked on this website and found little as well. So could you guys give me some
info on this fish? Are they a hardy fish? Are they rare to see in home aquariums?
<Larry, most of the pygmy angels are fairly hardy. I'm thinking what you have is a Rusty Angel. Here is a link with some pics. See if any of these look like yours. The link does have much to offer on the pygmy angels.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/centropyge2.htm James (Salty Dog)>
<<Mmm, if you go there James, you'll find this is a Centropyge aurantius. RMF>>
Golden Pygmy Angel
Hey James! Thanks for the link. I did find the my angel. Its on the pt1
the 3rd pic down. It does says its a Golden Pygmy Angel. At my LFS the Flame
Angel goes for about $50. I did find another Golden Pygmy Angel at another LFS and they had it for $100. Anyway thanks for your response.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Re: possible hybrid
I caught a angelfish and it looks to be a hybrid angel a cross between a
flame angel and a coral beauty. Was wondering if it has a name and if
it has been discovered before?
<Mmm, a coral-flame angel? There are many examples of Centropyge crosses.
Don't think I've seen or heard of this one. Maybe give a look at the newest
Allen, Allen and Steene Angel/Butterflyfish book... or a quick jaunt through the
scientific literature. Bob Fenner>
Terry
Re: Centropyge nahackyi VS multicolor
Hi guys,
Just like Bob Fenner said, they are 2 different fish. I asked Richard Pyle this
back in December, he's been out having fun................Looks like I will want
to get both and add them to my 29.
John Dawe aka Dr. Kovorkian to all fish & chipmunks
<Rich guy to his friends. Bob Fenner>
Fish Identity
I am looking for the name of, and more info about, the lovely red & white
striped angelfish? pictured on the front cover of A Guide To Angelfishes &
Butterflyfishes. I can't afford to buy the book just to answer this question,
and I haven't been able to find a copy to look at locally. Can you help?
<The fish in question is commonly referred to as the Peppermint Angel,
Paracentropyge or Centropyge boylei I believe.>
Thank you, Tom Berry
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Picts of Chaetodon nippon and Centropyge interruptus (Note: post fishbase
links)
Hello Bob,
I've referred to your WetWebMedia site so frequently that I felt compelled to
contribute and give something back.
I see that you have been missing some images for a while so after a quick
search, I was able to locate some. I hope you will be able to get their
permission to use them.
Chaetodon nippon:
http://www.FishBase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Chaetodon&speciesname=nippon
Centropyge interruptus :
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Centropyge&speciesname=interruptus
.. Toby
<Thanks for this effort, offer. Am a collaborator with fishbase, but will
settle here with adding your, their links where these images could/should be on
WWM for now. Let's go out there and make our own! Bob Fenner>
Coral beauty or Yellowfin?
Bob et al,
I recently (6 weeks ago) added what I thought was a Coral Beauty, only to see on
your site that it may be a Yellowfin or moonbeam dwarf. How can I be sure?
<You should be able to distinguish them from the photos. Please see here for
additional pictures
www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?ID=10974&genusname=Centropyge
&speciesname=flavipectoralis>
My guy looks more like the guy in the Yellowfin pic, and has the bright yellow
pectoral fins, also bright blue dorsal fin, blue tail and blue head, a yellow
body with blue stripes.
<The yellow body part is off for this fish. All the photos I have ever seen
show a pretty dark body. There is a lot of hybridization amongst Centropyge's.
Perhaps you have one. Feel free to send us a picture if you can get it,
something in the 400 KB range.>
Your description "good fish for medium aggressive fish-only set-ups"
kind of concerns me. The Yellowfin is currently the only fishy inhabitant of a
55 gallon with some mushrooms. I'd like to add some more softies in the future
(I have 4x48"NO fluorescents). I also have a gold striped maroon clown
freshly in the quarantine tank. Do you foresee any problems?
<No>
I've been watching for some nips at the mushrooms, none yet, keeping my fingers
crossed.
<LPS corals would be in more danger along with Xenia and feather dusters.>
Any tankmates to suggest?
<As per most Centropyge.>
It would also have to be DSB safe, no sand sifters eating my pods.
<Not a problem with this fish. -Steven Pro>
Centropyge ID
I ran across your descriptions of these guys on wetwebmedia while trying
to identify my newest acquisition. I have had no luck in my attempt
however - and I thought you might shed some light. Unfortunately I
don't have a camera/scanner etc. so a good description is all I can offer.
This guy is about one inch total length, he is a deep blue color - nearly black, he has an underlying (still shaded by the deep blue color)
rusty/orange color on his face, where C. argi would normally be yellow.
The eye is where this fades into the deep blue, and the eye shares a little of the orange color, the ring in his eye is orange. The caudal
fin is yellow which fades to clear at the edges much like C. acanthops. The pectoral and anal fins have a bright blue band at the
bottoms. There are no other markings on the fish (stripes on the rear fins etc.). My guess is that it is some variation on acanthops - but
the lack of any brighter color above the eye bothers me. I would say it was argi without question (much darker in the face) if it weren't for
the yellow caudal fin. I am perplexed - is it possible that I have a hybrid here?
Could this be a juvenile coloration? Or is there some other guy that I haven't found in my research. Also, he was sold to me
by a local merchant as a damsel from the damsel tank (2.99 - what a steal)...they were in a Philippine shipment as far as I can tell. I am
positive it is an angel, however:) If I can give you any other info to help...let me know.
Thanks for your help, and I will continue to recommend your book to beginners at the LFS I work at.
Shawna Gunnarson
<Huh, interesting... and good description... From the P.I...? Does sound like this may possibly be a juvenile Centropyge flavicauda. Take a look on FishBase for some more images.
http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.cfm?ID=5664
There are a few damsel (yes the family) possibilities as well... like Pomacentrus chrysurus... but as with heels, and wounding, time will tell.
Bob Fenner>
Re: Remember my Mystery Centropyge?
Not such a mystery anymore it seems. After doing some more detailed
searching under all of the Centropyge names I came up with a picture of
my fish...I first found one in Pablo Tepoot's picture book guide to
indo-Pac fishies...and I also found the one I am sending. My fish is more purple and has a brighter orange...but this is definitely him.
Identifiers point to him as C. flavicauda, although he bears little resemblance to other pictures I have seen of this fish, including the
most commonly cited pic. in Burgess. I would probably have to mutilate the poor little guy to find out for sure, but I'd bet that this guy is a
different fish than the flavicauda in Burgess. But now that I have bored you to tears I will end up with the fact that whatever he is he is very
happy, and will soon be a resident in my new 135 reef. (more sand I need MORE SAND>>> sorry, the insanity is setting in now. Maybe I'll
talk to you later about something that is actually useful to the rest of humanity...:) but until then...happy
fishkeeping. Shawna Gunnarson
<Ah, not so insane (or you're in good company, and plenty of it at least). And this fish is/can be quite variable... and is a good to great dwarf-dwarf Angel... Be chatting,
Bob Fenner>
Re: Centropyge ID
You know...if I have to wait to find out what it is...then I'd rather have it
be a juv. C. interruptus if it's all the same to you :) What I don't
understand is how anybody could think that an angel is a damsel...he really
doesn't look or (more importantly) behave like one at all. I will let you know
if he ever changes over...if not, he's still a very interesting little
guy...always busy picking at some part of my reef. .. (If you ever find any
angel that's "reef safe" I'll eat my sock:) (and no dead ones don't count))
Hope you have a nice Labor Day holiday. Shawna
<Well stated and taken... Embarrassing as it may seem to admit, there are Damsels (yes, family Pomacentridae) with "this and that Dwarf Angel" common names and vice versa... and I have been "on location" only to miss them camera-wise because their behavior and appearance seems so "other family"... Ah well. Good holidays to you as well.
Bob Fenner, who is "reef safe", but definitely not an angel.>
Resplendent Dwarf Angel
Howdy there Bob,
I was on your site and came across the Pygmy Angel page and of course I just had to check them out < s >.
I just received a Golden and a Multicolor, and am expecting to get hold of a C. joculator
in the near future. I noticed you are in need of a picture for the Resplendent. you are more than welcome to use any of the photos off my Resplendent Page if you wish. the addy is;
>>http://www.aquarium-design.com/fish/resplendent.html <<
so, when are we going back to Hawaii...or any other tropical island in the south pacific < s > ?
Jim Stime
Aquarium Design
<Thanks for the pic off Jim. And am off to southern Japan over Toikeydaze, but/and will venture out anytime you have the resources. Keep in touch.
Bob Fenner>
Picture of Centropyge Colini
Hello,
My wife and I are avid reefkeepers and big fans of your site, and we couldn't help noticing that you didn't have a picture of the Centropyge Colini. After quite a bit of waiting we've managed to get a decent shot of the one that lives in our 230 gallon reef. We're sending it along to you for use on your site, if you like. The only thing we ask in return is credit for the photo.
<Ah, certainly. Thank you. Posted>
We also have some small 5-second video clips of the colini going about his daily business. (he eats like a pig!!). Let us know if you'd like to see them and we can email them to you.
<Someday soon my friend... we will have video>
Thanks for all the great work on the site and in your writing!
Sincerely, Evan McLaughlin
<Thank you for your participation. Bob Fenner>