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Re: Turtles... mixing
species – 4/15/08
thank you for the info, we now have them in different tanks and the
soft shelled turtle is very interesting and likes to bury himself into
the sandy bottom.
<I love it when people don't write to say "thanks" until they want more
information... gives me a nice warm glow knowing that good manners are
still a part of the modern world.>
But recently the red-eared slider stays on the turtle dock and does not
swim and has not eaten in a few days is she sick or what should we do?
thanks
<First tell me about the vivarium and care. How are you supplying UV-B
light? What foods are you using for the 50% plant material portion of
its diet the Red Ear Slider needs? How are you filtering the water? How
much water are you changing per week? What temperature do you keep the
water at? The reason I'm asking these questions is that virtually all
problems with Red Ear Sliders come down to people not providing UV-B,
not feeding them a plant-based diet, not filtering the water, and not
changing the water regularly. If you aren't doing ALL of these things
properly, then your first "thing to do" is fix them. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Turtles, WWM,
manners/normative beh. – 4/15/08
Are you always an ass when people ask you for information? Because
your the one with the website so if you don't like people writing to you
with questions then maybe you shouldn't have one. Oh yeah and by the way
thanks for the info!
Amanda
<Hello Amanda. Good manners cost nothing. Simply because you're getting
a service doesn't mean your manners should be neglected. When you get a
drink at a bar, or pay at the checkout at a grocery store, I'm sure
someone as well mannered as yourself would always use those magic words
"thank you" at the end of each transaction. When you're getting
something for free, such as the expert advice from volunteers like me
trying to help you care for your animals, then being polite is even more
important. I enjoy helping out here at WWM because most of the people
who write are fun to communicate with. Humour, good manners, and a
shared interest in animal welfare are the things that keep me coming
back. Cheers, Neale.> |
A lot of tank questions.
Reading, nano set-up, reading, algae control, reading, format...
1/30/08
Hm. This makes. . . Attempt #4 to send though am waiting a couple days in
between for good measure).
<Mmm, strange... have not heard of trouble otherwise... and this is the first
time I've seen this msg.. Maybe our spam filter?>
PLEASE forgive me if you've gotten them all, just my email seems to be doing
that "yum, email is tasty" bit when I hit send. . . Using a different one this
time. Anyway. . . Thank you for being there to read people's emails and answer
questions. And thank you for taking the time to read the horribly long
story-of-my-life type message. Let me start by saying I recently (mid-last
year?) Stopped taking LFS advise. I seem to always find the people who ?he's
never steered me wrong ever!? and get the ?ooooh, no, you'll have no problems
keeping a tang in a 2 gallon freshwater pico tank!? sort of advise
<advice>
from them(I?m not actually dumb enough to have fallen for that though, luckily.
Though pretty much every other bad bit of advise I likely have at one time. I
could nearly write a book on all the idiotic things I have believed.) Hence my
not listening anymore and trying to tune it out when I go in for fish food and
overhear the person telling a guy to buy a school of tetras and few blue
gouramis for the 10 gallon tank that was set up that weekend. I try to get by
the least of the 5 evils whenever possible. And have stocked up a lot of
questions, most of which I know are answered on here, but my brain and search
engines really don't play nicely together.
The first tank I've got is a 10 gallon nano-reef. No fish, can't seem to keep
any of them alive (had no problems when the tank was first set up, yet after a
bad move I've lost any other one I've tried :( a couple clowns when it was in a
20 gallon and a couple of Chrysiptera parasema at couple of separate times
after,
<These Pomacentrids need more room...>
so I am keeping it just coral at the moment) I've got some Chaeto in it to soak
up extra nutrients, but it seems to grow like a weed and looks bad in the main
tank. Is there some way to keep it controlled?
<Remote it in a sump/refugium, keep it trimmed otherwise...>
I really don't have room on the back of the tank for a big hob to put it in, yet
I like to have it in there. I've been toying with the idea of turning a small
clear kitchen storage canister into a canister filter for it,
<Can be done... Have you read this: http://wetwebmedia.com/hagenrefugart.htm>
would I be able to put the Chaeto in that without a special light, or would I
need to rig something up over that?
<A light would be very useful... there are some nice small units available
commercially>
Also. Lately, I seem to be having an outbreak. . . of. . . Caulerpa? How'd that
happen? I haven't added any LR to the tank in over 8 months, and no dry rock for
a little over 6.
<Spores, propitious circumstances...>
Yet the other day I pulled a good bit out. 3 species, one of the feather-leaved
ones, grape and some species I can't seem to find an id for looks almost like
little green mushrooms on the runner). Now I see a bit growing back into the
tank again. How do I get rid of it, just keep pulling?
<Reading...: http://wetwebmedia.com/caulerpacomp.htm>
And, if I do like I did last time, when I knock everything in the tank over
trying to get a single rock out/clean, is that going to hurt anything? That
seems to put a cloud of gunk up into the water column that I can't imagine being
good for the tank.
<Hopefully not>
Second tank is a 29 gallon, newly set up as a planted tank. I was given a 65
watt pc fixture for it, but that needs a light (badly.) I set up the tank way
too quickly, out of just being too impatient with myself (no excuse) I know
everyone says that the 65(67?)K bulbs are best for plants,
<? You're off a decimal...>
but are the 10Ks just as good?
<Let's stop right here... It's obvious you haven't tried looking all this up for
yourself... what you enquire about thus far is gone over and over on WWM...
Please learn to and use the indices and search tool as posted here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm
Am just skipping the rest... see my note below.>
I've seen some places say it is just a matter of preference, and others say that
there is a huge difference in growth. The technical info just makes my head spin
and all I need to know is if I can get a 10K bulb locally or if I really need to
order one from online. . . Also, I've been told that with that much light if I
do not have CO2 all I will be growing is an algae farm. But I can't get more
info than that. . . I can't afford pressurised. Way out of my price range. I was
looking at the Hydor green NRG CO2(are they any good? Apparently no one on the
forums I'm on has used them before. Maybe you guys have heard a good/bad
review?) system at first,
yet the refills are really expensive. Can you put a home-made yeast based
concoction in there when the CO2 level starts to get low, or do you have to buy
theirs? If you must use theirs, is DIY nearly as good as that system? And of
course, I had an apple snail well over a year old) that died in there behind
something and I didn't know about it until I had an ammonia spike a bit green in
the test tube >_< way too high!) I did a 10 gallon water change and it seems to
have pulled all of the ammonia out (I'm going to keep monitoring it though) if
that was the only problem with the tank that should stabilise it and prevent any
more spikes, right?
Last question about that tank. Another famous stocking question (yay, don't you
just get so sick of answering these?) Currently the tank has a lot of ?refugees?
from the 60 gallon I had. It was my planted tank, though never looked good, so I
decided to turn it back into an Oscar tank plus I missed my last Oscar too
much!) I gave away most of the fish and being that the tank was stocked at the
recommendation of one of those bad stores, it was way too many. . .) 1 male
sword* 8 male guppies TINY guys! Even after being raised in a 60 gallon tank
none is larger than an inch. . . Too much inbreeding?)** 10 neon tetras thinking
about upping that to 12) 4 ottocinclus(getting algae wafers) 1 Panaque maccus(I
think? Closest ?clown pleco? I can seem to find. He's also going to be moved
from the tank quite soon, given to a friend whose got a bigger tank) and
unfortunately 4 Cory cats. 2 ?spotted?(look to be Corydoras agassizii) and 2
albinos, because I was guaranteed that
they?d all be happy together since they?re all cories. I want to give 2 of them
away and keep 2. Would either one be better in a 29 than the other? Once I give
the 2 away I am going to get a couple more of the sort I have kept(how many
should I have in my school? With the other fish I've already got.) [*the sword
is a loner because he was a ?feeder fry? I took home with a group of other ones
and he is the only one who lived. He's NOT going to be replaced when he dies of
old age, but seems to not have solo problems. He's always willing to eat and
seems to be any less active than the swords I see in stores/the other fish in my
tank. **the guppies also won?t ever be replaced. All of them were bred in my big
tank, and are little gems.]
The next is a 10 gallon. It has fluorite and chain swords along with java moss
in it. And some form of tiny bladderwort. I had it divided with 2 bettas in it,
but for some reason both died within days of each other this week. I Think the
one was really old at the store because he had raggedy fins and was slightly
underweight(either that or he was just in really poor shape from those blasted
cups) I had him for around 6 months, though he never seemed to improve or
decline and the other guy for around 3(wasn?t divided until then) and he seemed
to be in fine health. The first guy went on Tuesday of last week, and on
Thursday when I was off work and had time to do a water change the
other(healthier) guy was dead. He hadn?t been showing any sort of illness at
all. I figured it may have been ammonia from not pulling the other guy out
quickly enough, but did a water change anyway and when I finally got a new test
kit on Saturday(couldn?t find my last one) I was getting 0s
for ammonia nitrate and nitrite. Like I do from the identical(other than what
species of plants are in it) tank that is directly next to it(about 4" away, so
if something had gotten into the water I'm sure the other one would be showing
it by now?) I?d really like to use it for a crowntail I've got so he can have
better water, but I'm somewhat afraid of putting another fish in there since I
don't know what killed my last ones. Do you think it?d be safe, or would I be
risking something(I used the same siphon on the other 10 without thinking about
it and those boys are both completely fine still) If not how can I sanitise the
fluorite and plants? Also, in those tanks how necessary is it to actually change
the water? I've never gotten any nitrate readings in either of them(I know the
test kit works, nitrate shows up with it in other tanks) Is there anying that
the water adds to the tank that the fish can't get from their food?
Okay. Finally the LAST tank I have questions about(I can almost hear you sighing
in relief!) is the 60 gallon I've got my baby Oscar in(he?s quite the handsome
little devil, about 4", a tiger albino, and already a beggar!) My history with
oscars is just as tainted as the rest of the tanks I've had. The last one. Aye.
I?ll let you hear a bit of why I don't listen to pet stores anymore. I was
looking at a bunch of cute babies(little ones, a couple inches) at the store and
was told that for my 10 gallon gravel bottomed tank that I should get 2 oscars
and 2 firemouths. No joke. A couple months after I found out how much of a
complete idiot I was I bought the 60 gallon and returned 1 of the oscars and the
firemouth that was still alive. And was promptly talked into 5 silver dollars
and a common pleco. 2 of the silvers kept dying after being replaced so I stuck
with 3. On that 60 I had a hornwort plant(well underlit and was always shedding
like mad as a result) and
around 2-3" of gravel. As predicted that was impossible to keep clean and it was
a nitrate factory. When the test kit was finally staying blood red after 75%
water changes I gave them all away and decided to go with the peaceful
community.
Flash forward to the current setup. I've got just enough gravel to cover the
bottom of the tank, some driftwood with anubias and java ferns(the ferns seem to
be doing better, so I'm probably going to take the anubias out and put more
ferns in there, unless little bit decides to shred them) and a rena xp3(350 GPH)
It?s got 4 sponges a basket 2/3 full of bio rings and a layer of floss in it.
While the Oscar is still small I want to optimise my filtration. Should I leave
just a couple of the sponges(1 less coarse, 1 more coarse) and a bit of the
floss and fill the rest with bio-rings? Or should I just fill the rest of my
empty space with the rings? I've also got a penguin filter that moves the same
amount of water. Should I add that? And if so what can I use for media? All of
the commercial pads for them have carbon, and call it superstition but since I
quit running carbon I've not had a single sick fish except ones that were sickly
when I got them. Figure it isn?t
bad if I need to get something out of the water, but until then I don't see any
need to have it in my system. Should I just take the carbon out of those or get
something else to put in there?
Lastly, I have a small striped raphael catfish(Platydorus something?) I do
remember that with my last O, no matter the food size I gave him, he?d always
blow about half of it out his gills. Hence having the pleco(as a ?cleaner? that
seemed to put out more waste than he ate!) in the original tank. I figured the
extra food that I?ll need to add at night for the cat/ extra water change time
wouldn?t hurt and I wanted something to clean the uneaten food from the tank
bottom instead of just letting it rot. I?d looked around online and saw that
most people(on Oscar forums anyway) suggest synodontis species or the raphaels
as good cleaning tankmates. The only synos sold locally are either ones that get
to be close to 2 feet long, or didn't look like eupterus, though they were
labelled as such. And I definitely did not want to get one only to find out that
I got another species that would get to 18+". So I got a raphael instead. When I
looked them up on planet catfish the
article did not have anything about them needing to be in schools, yet I've seen
that on one of your faqs. Does this mean I made yet another mistake by buying
him? I Know the tank wouldn?t be able to get by with an entire school of them in
it. . .
Thank you again for reading this long winded thing. And for being there to
answer undereducated hobbyist?s(like me) questions!
<Going forward. LOOK first for your answers (and much more you will find in the
way of related/ancillary material in the process) and "break up" your questions
a bit... re topic, type of system... for others perusal. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
I learned to use the search
tool and I bought your book 11/3/07
Hello Bob,
<Mark>
I learned to use the search tool and I bought your book. I apologize for not
researching the FAQ's before asking my questions and wasting your time.
<No worries>
As penance, I made a donation to support your site.
<Heeee! I absolve you>
I have noticed that many people make the same mistake as me...not doing proper
research before asking a question. When this occurs, why not
recommend in your response that the offending party do just that?
Mark Gilbank
<Perhaps we've had too much western "acculturation"... Could be re-termed
Judeo-Christian brain-washing. Cheers, BobF>
Re: Lion fish and over
stocking
... Using WWM
Do you need live rock for seahorses and how much (scrape the lions )
Last note how do i get rid of excessive algae growth especially hair algae
<... please learn to/use the search tool, indices:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm
Re: BTA & Candy Cane Coral
Concerns 9/12/07
Hello,
<Hi Jackie, Mich here again.>
I wonder if you could resend your response to my email.
<Certainly! I will include below.>
Outlook Administer removed it because it was seen as SPAM.
<Wonderful Spam... wonderful Spam... Spam... Spam... Spam...>
I have sense <or since> added you to my safe list, which will enable me to
receive emails from you.
<Excellent!>
Thanks,
<Welcome! Mich>
Jacqueline S. Morris
New entrant into the
Saltwater arena, wisenheimer, lazy or just ignorant re WWM? – 08/31/07
Hi,
<Dinesh>
I have just got a Saltwater aquarium wherein i have 1 maroon clown,
<Can be a terror in time, places...>
1 yellow tailed damsel , 1 blue damsel and 1 anemone (maroon in colour and short
bulb like tentacles).
<Mmm, do you know which species?>
The size of my tank is 3 feet wide 4 feet height
<!>
and 1 feet depth. It has rocks and sand in it. Approximately 200 lts of water
<Nah... doesn't compute>
I have one blue light and i pink light.
<...>
The anemone has climbed 3/4 th. way up on the glass and my clown does not play
with it . (it's been only 3 days that the have all met).
<... are you pulling old Bob the Fishman's fins here?>
My question is on adequate lighting for this size of a tank, and what to feed
the clown, damsels and the anemone and how often to feed them.
regds
Dinesh
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm
and learn to use the Indices on WWM... your answers and much more that you're
likely unaware of but essential to know, is posted/archived there. Bob Fenner>
Some reading now! SW... a
jokester? 8/18/07
Hi my name is David. I have a 55 gallon fishtank and I wanted to set up a
reef aquarium with soft coral and sea anemones. I am also adding a Radiata
Lionfish and a Sand Sifting Sea Star as well. Is there any anemone fish that can
live with that combination? I have done my research and have come up empty
handed. Please help
<... You're joking? Please... what you list won't work... read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/index.htm
the pretty blue writing are links. Bob Fenner>
Re: Refugium make-up
8/16/07
Hi Bob,
<David>
Thanks ever so for the quick response. [Had a quiet chuckle with your
Chaetomorpha (i.e. spaghetti) western quip :-)]
<Wish the present Net would allow me to whistle the theme tune...>
No questions this time just a few responses to share.
I will now use fine coral sand instead of the aragonite for the DSB.
I have heaps of live rock rubble so I will throw more in to the refugium.
<Good times two>
Unfortunately the sump/refugium is as big as is practical to fit under the
display tank. Aesthetics (or rather my wife)
<Heee!>
prevent me from situating it outside the cabinetry. It will have 80l in the
overflow chamber/sump and another 80l in the refugium. Once up and running I
will perform a transit water overflow test and increase the size of the baffles
accordingly.
<Well-stated>
By my rudimentary calculations I believe I will be able to increase these by a
further 50mm (2") and still leave enough volume for pump failure. This will add
10 litres to the sump and another 10 litres to the refugium bringing the total
to 180l. This represents roughly 20% of the main display tank (650l).
<Mmm, yes>
Further down the track I have a plan to introduce an outside sump/refugium which
will receive overflow from the main display first, which will then gravity feed
to the under the display sump/refugium, before being returned. I am not limited
by space here so I have thoughts on a largish 500l tank split 100l for overflow
capture and 400l for the refugium. This will mean I will effectively have 2
refugiums and the water volume by comparison to the main display will
effectively be doubled.
<Nice!>
This is probably as big a project as the main display itself which is underway.
It will involve erecting a purpose built housing adjacent to the outside wall,
more holes in the wall (I already have plumbing going to/from an external
chiller and separate plumbing for automated RO water top ups and 10% weekly
water exchanges, more holes for external electrics, and then the whole tank sits
on a tin base which has separate floor level plumbing for emergency flooding to
an outside drain.), so many holes in fact I'm considering removing the wall. :-)
<Might be best here... and not to kibitz too much... wouldn't a walk-in space
with power, water/sink and drain line be great there?>
So now to your question of me. Re "How'd you like to write them, come up with
a/the scheme to re-organize, move?". Sadly my life is full raising a family of 4
kids between the ages of 5 & 10.
<Yeeikes! I have a hard enough time keeping up with our dogs! Oh, and Pete, our
roomie>
What little spare time I do have will be preciously spent resurrecting my marine
hobby which I hope to introduce the kids into. However I do have one small
suggestion for the advice on posts on your 'Ask the WWM crew a question' page. I
notice that many of the emails start off on one subject and then drift off into
other non-related areas. This means that valuable responses can be missed if
someone is researching a particular topic and the response has been filed under
a different category.
<Yes... getting "corrected" with time, efforts to sub-divide, make the
headings/categories more focused, limited>
Whenever I post I send separate mails for each topic knowing that they will
likely end up in different areas. Would it be worthwhile maybe advising others
to do the same?
<Mmm, yes... unless the input, other info. is related somewhat... I do place
such "FAQs" in more than one "box" often enough...>
Maybe something like "e. Have more than one topic? - then send more than one
mail." or such like. As I say just a thought, but do keep up the great work -
yours is an invaluable resource to good fish keeping husbandry as are your books
(I have the lot).
Cheers
Dave
<Thank you for this valuable input and your kind acknowledgments Dave... Bob
Fenner>
Re: Fish ID... Novaculichthys
taeniourus (Dragon Wrasse) - 08/06/07
Thank you
<<Quite welcome. EricR>>
Backgrounds, Courtesies, And Maybe A Crew Member In The Making – 08/06/07
Hi,
<<Hello Wikus>>
My name is actually Afrikaans. I'm from South Africa.
<<Ahh...I see>>
It's really nice to get a response after a simple thank you.
<<Indeed...a simple courtesy>>
I appreciate the work you guys are doing and hope to be able to do the same
someday.
<<We’re happy to be of service...perhaps you will join us one day>>
All of the best,
Wikus
<<And to you in kind. EricR>>
I couldn't help myself!
7/25/07
Crew,
<Mike>
I can't believe the grief you receive trying to help people with
problems/questions who come to you! I had to comment on a couple of items in the
daily FAQs. In regard to the individual upset about the search feature, a quick
way to find what you want in a page full of threads is to do the Google search,
open one of the links suggested, then in the pull-down menu of your web browser
click edit, then find. Type in what word/phrase you are looking for and click
"find next". Continue clicking "find next" until you are at exactly what you
went to the page for. For the individual who "knows how many crabs s/he has", I
"knew" I had no mithrax crabs in my tank until I found one hiding in the rock.
Hitchhiker indeed!
Mike
<Thank you for this input and commiseration. Bob Fenner>
Searching for info on WWM – 07/24/07
Dear Crew,
I saw this in the dailies today, and wanted to respond to it:
<I thank you>
>Searching for info, on WWM, elsewhere... – 07/22/07
>I have been using this site for six months.
><Me? Ten years or so>
>My question or maybe suggestion is that when I do a search and click one of the
results I am then
>sent to page with at least thirty 'related discussion' posts and it is very
difficult to find the one >that pertains to me.
><Mmm, depending on the logic, subject, limit of the topic... likely about all
you can do... The site
>is arranged to avail relevant, related info>
>While there is always good info to be read on these other posts, it is
frustrating and time consuming enough that I turn to another reef site. <Go
there>
>Isn't there any way to make it so that when I search for something on say
'Deltec skimmer' the only link that I click brings up ONLY 'Deltec skimmer'
posts as opposed to the general forum on skimmers.
><Write the folks at Google such questions... not our search tool. RMF>
>Thank you for all your hard work,
><Welcome>
>Todd
After you have used the google search feature, and it brings you to a page with
multiple posts, it is easy enough to find what you are looking for by either
pressing "Ctrl" and "F" simultaneously or by selecting "Edit" and then "Find" in
the Internet Explorer toolbar. This brings up a search dialog for that page that
you can paste your search term into (In this example it was 'Deltec skimmer' and
it will bring you to the exact part of that page that it is on.
Daniel
<Bingo. BobF> Re: Yellow Watchman Goby 1 - Hermit Crab
0... New WWM... 6/22/07
I sent in an email on the 19th Subject: Yellow Watchman Goby 1 - Hermit Crab
0 with two questions one about the Yellow Watchman Goby the other about some
corals. Isn't a time sensitive thing but I read that some emails get dropped so
I wanted to check. Previous emails have been responded to with amazing speed.
Thanks for all your help,
~Matthew
<Haven't seen such... we're on the slippery and steep slide learning curve of a
new ISP and webmail program... Please re-send. BobF>
Ok what size should I make the pictures? - 04/23/07
<Keep the resolution, but shrink them with compression. If you start with
.JPG files, you will have better luck with this. Or, send them one at a time and
I will resize them for you. Each time you send one, I will send it back to you
for reattachment in your final email. I have plenty of photo-editing software
for this.>
I sent one email and they were too big so I cut them in half to 220k. Now they
are too small
<I understand. Am sorry, but or server only has 10MB, and one message with half
of that capacity really limits our ability to receive others' emails.
-GrahamT>
Re: WWM, the "Simon Cowell" of the pet fish world? Lighting issues as
well... 4/9/07
Thanks
<You’re welcome.>
- I will continue to research as you suggested
<Great…do particularly look into the Sanjay Joshi articles I recommended.>
- For clarity sake, my comment with regard to elitist is not that of
knowledge or experience, which we agree you have more than me hence the
questions.
<I understood this portion of your correspondence quite well.>
It is more the manor of response that at times comes across a little harsh
for those just seeking help.
<Mmm….yes; you have said this before. But can your provide a specific
incidence, we have, and have had many different participating crew
members..>
Sometimes people are desperate and are franticly seeking some knowledgeable
help and occasionally they are met with a slap in the face in the form of an
e-mailed response. Such as asking them to do their research,
<Lance this is where we will always disagree my friend. This is not a slap
in the face or a purpose attempt to belittle folks. It is an attempt to
however encourage people to learn to do their own reading, to in some manor
become confident in their individual/learned knowledgeable…, many times WWM
is emailed with questions that could be met with an immediate answer had the
individual used the WWM google function. I am also of the opinion that
spoon-feeding people will only hurt them long term. And as a practicing
atheist….while I’m not a bible reader by any means at all…I do believe this
quote (the many form of it) fits: “Give a man a fish and he eats for a
day…tech him to fish and he eats for a lifetime.” The same principle applies
here.>
which for a lot of people asking you the question is a form of doing
research.
<Yes but not an effective one, the detail catalogued in our articles,
articles else wear are far more comprehensive than any single e-mail
correspondence. I like to think of the crew as the entity that points
someone in the right direction when they are stuck or get confliction
information…we are not meant to be the sole means of research.>
<<Well-stated Adam. RMF>>
Anyway, just my opinion and only my opinion which you did ask for.
<Yes I did, thank you.>
I admittedly am new to the hobby and will certainly make my mistakes.
<As we all have.>
My intent is to seek the knowledge that I will need to maintain a healthy
tank.
<Much information abounds on this subject.>
Also the truth is what I am seeking, I would accept someone advising me that
I am doing something wrong. But why so harsh
<Define harsh…instead of criticizing the crew, perhaps you could give us an
example of this harshness or better yet describe for us in detail how you
believe a query should be answered.>
- I also see this in e-mail posts from other people.
<Where?>
Maybe take it easy a little, just a thought.
I do respect the knowledge that WWM possesses and will continue to read it
pages.
<Thank you for this, though I (and likely most of the crew) will disagree.>
<<Mmm, the medium is the message... what does this mean? Sometimes to me,
that the format can be/is more compelling than the content itself. RMF>>
Lance
<Adam J.>
Re: WWM, the "Simon Cowell" of the pet fish world? Lighting issues as
well... 4/9/07
Point taken and well stated - Although we may disagree, I appreciate the
professional response with explanation of your point of view. My apologies for
previous issues, I think I now better understand where you are coming from on
certain points and appreciate the opportunity to express mine.
Thanks,
<Thank you for this Lance, the thoughts are appreciated and we are always open
to suggestions.>
Lance - A reader with a new (better) perspective.
<AJ>
RE: SAILFIN BLENNY 3/26/07
LOOKING FOR A FOOD SUPPLEMENT - I HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH
SUPPLEMENTED FOODS. I HAVE TRIED FORMULA TWO, ALGAE SHEETS, WAFERS,
FLAKE FOODS AND PELLETS. IT WILL ONLY EAT OFF OF THE GLASS AND ROCKS AND
IS GETTING VERY SKINNY (NOT ENOUGH IN TANK). I EVEN PLACED IT IN
ISOLATION AND PROVIDED FOODS BUT TO NO AVAIL. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS - I
FEAR THAT IT WILL STARVE TO DEATH.
<Please... re-key and re-send your msg... NOT IN ALL CAP.s>
Forget it!
<Mmm, tis your choice, my friend. We are an all-volunteer service, provided for
a world-wide community free of charge, and our only 'cost of usage' is the
request of a little common courtesy when it comes to the text format as it
arrives to us. If you're not willing to do what little we ask, we're not willing
to assist. It's a pretty simple dichotomy, if you ask me. Get what you give.
-JustinN>
<<Well done Justin... and to cap it off... the info. requested is posted on
WWM... in an article I penned, placed. B>> Some folks just "don't get it" 03/26/07
You seem to be forgetting that my original question was not answered but
ignored - I had to resend the question. Generally I was hoping to get some
assistance with a problem but was met with belittlement and no answer. I was
then asked for an update and was told to restate the question because someone
must have forgotten.
<<We don't "hold onto" such questions... too much volume, not enough human or
computer RAM... RMF>>
After restating the question I'm told that the format was
wrong (caps)- excuse me for not being perfect for you purpose - It shouldn't be
that hard to just offer some advise or direct me else ware.
You seem to be asking for "common courtesy". Well give and you shall receive as
you might say
I also find it funny that it takes you minutes to be raid me when it take days
to provide a real answer - funny how that works.
<Kindly have a read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/faqstips.htm. You are NOT special in this case,
we are simply asking what is expected of EVERYONE who expects a response from
us. Again, this is an ALL-VOLUNTEER staff, who spends well over 100 hours a day
collectively logged into a mail server answering questions such as yours. We
receive upwards of 50+ queries a day; is it fair to us to have to correct every
single one of these when they don't conform to the very simple standards that we
expect? There are not enough hours in the day, to retype entire queries simply
because someone feels that they deserve more attention than another. Sorry, bud.
No sale. The information you want is posted, the attitude is undeserved.
Remember this very simple point, my friend: You contacted US, not vice versa.
-JustinN>
Size those attachments! 3/1/07
I whole heartedly apologize for that as I had purposely limited the number
of images to what I felt would be manageable. I did not see any directions as I
just went to contact info and sent the email. I will not make the mistake
twice. Thank you for responding!
Thanks,
Brad
<Ahh, apology accepted... Our mailserver unfortunately only has a ten meg
capacity... We've tried to have this enlarged... but no go thus far. Hence we
ask that folks limit the size of graphics to no more than a few hundred Kbytes.
Cheers, BobF>
Language Issues: Proper Use of Affect and Effect 02/17/07
Hi Crew
<Hi Karen, Mich here.>
I know you spend an inordinate amount of time and effort correcting poor
grammar and spelling from your questioners and it is much appreciated
amongst everything else.
<Hmm, you noticed? Hehe!>
However, as the site is used by a lot of non-native speakers of English and
I see the words Effect and Affect are often muddled in meaning. Will you
take on board the following comments in the spirit they are offered (better
communication of important information)?
<Oh yes! Most assuredly!>
These words do not have the same meaning but CAN be used in the same
context.
e.g.
Water movement can be effected by the use of an additional
powerhead (stationary water made to move)
Water movement can be affected by the use of an additional
powerhead (existing water movement changed)
Water changes effect a dilution of pollutants and hence affect water
quality in a positive manner.
Chemical warfare between corals may affect growth and effect death of one
party.
Effects: makes happen, brings about.
Affects: changes, influences.
(Not the complete dictionary definition : ) )
<At one point in my life I learned a little saying that helped me use these
two words properly (something along the lines of "I before E except after
C".) but I am no longer able to recall the reminder, but remember it being
quite useful. If anyone knows please share.>
Keep up the great work, Karen
<Will do our best! -Mich>
Re: Language Issues Proper Use of Affect and Effect 2/18/07
Mich
<Karen>
I think you would be referring to something like this
"Affect," except for the specialists mentioned below, is a verb, meaning to
cause change in something.
"His headache affected his ability to concentrate."
Verbs are words of action. So think "A" — Affect, Action — something
is Acting on something else.
"Effect" is usually a noun, a word for a thing, in this case a result of
something.
"Aspirin had the desired effect, and he aced the exam."
Think "E" for End Product.
This is a way to tell a verb and a noun apart lol BUT won't help the crew
that much. The crew and others are having problems with the two VERBS,
affect and effect. :) So much for the most common situations.
<Hehee!>
A less common (but useful) form of "effect" is a verb meaning to
bring about or cause to happen. "She effected a revolution with her
challenge to the grading system."
TTFN
Karen
<Karen, thank you for sharing, helping. It is appreciated. -Mich>
I would like to send some marine fish photos...How do you prefer that to
be done?... 2/16/07
Thanks
<Mmm, jpgs of a few hundred Kbytes as attachments... BobF>
A suggestion, maybe a link to add?
2/9/07
Good afternoon Bob, if it is indeed you.
<Tis Nicole>
I noticed you received a query today from someone who had not capitalized
their proper nouns or the beginning of their sentences, and they had around
eight questions in all. I was wondering if it might not be easier for you to
redirect these sorts of questions to the site I volunteer at?
<Mmm, not easy... but will post your message>
The site is www.allexperts.com. After you click on Animals/Pets and then Pet
Fish, there are three categories to choose from: Fish, Freshwater Aquarium,
and Saltwater Aquarium. There are 15 experts in Freshwater Aquarium
currently. A few of these also volunteer in the category Fish. I know one of
them has a PhD - and it certainly isn't me! I'm not exactly sure about the
credentials of anybody else...
I answer seven questions a day (we set limits in our own individual
Preferences) and most of the others answer five a day or so. The questions
are posted verbatim, so we either reject them for a specific reason, or
answer them the way they are. We appear to have no expectation to follow
English conventions in our replies, although I do the best I can as a
"common" courtesy...the quotation marks because it is all but common, as you
know!
<Oh yes>
I suspect you have been overwhelmed with questions lately. A few of these
read as though they should be directed to message boards, or forums of a
more informal nature, so I thought I would suggest allexperts.com...perhaps
you can include us in your Links page?
Thank you for you! Along with this wet world which you founded.
Nicole
<Will gladly post this as well. Thank you for your input and efforts in
general. Bob Fenner>
Re: More poor English... about FW ich? 1/14/07
ok I think I found the source of my problem in my tank I have a algae eater
too and I found two white spot on its fins do I need to clean out my tak to save
my last two fish and put the one fish in qurintine my tank is a 5 gallon tank I
dont know the ph levels or the tem I am new to this fish thing how cold or how
warm should I have my tank we olny have the tank since xmas.
should I take all the fish out and clean out my take to get rid of the ich <All
of the information you request is already posted, available on our site.
Likewise, you are still not following our conventions for question requests. I
once again implore you to read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/faqstips.htm thoroughly, and recompose your
letter with punctuation, capitalization, and proper grammar. -JustinN>
Post-script from a FAQ querier...FYI 1/6/07
Bob,
I've been helping this gentleman by the name of John out with his FW nitrate
levels, and I wanted to forward you the post-script he attached to his last
correspondence. I told him I'd send along to you, as you're in charge of the
site:-)
Best, Jorie
"P.S. snip this PS out, but could you use a faq on sending pictures, the site
mentions kb's etc with regard to sending attached pictures, most people don't
understand this. I would happily write you a guide on sending pictures for those
using Windows XP (so about 90% of those reading your site by my reckoning (Linux
users should know better LOL)). It would be nice to give something back. Let me
know if that would help, I struggle with fish care but writing help files/faq's
is my living, do let me know if I can help.
The Windows world needs to know that the right mouse button is there for a
reason, I see it as my mission to educate them :-)
Thanks again
John"
<I thank you for your offer, and we will gladly post your guide here. Please
send it along to either my addr. or the Crews. Bob Fenner>
Hey Crew 1/3/07
Happy New Year crew,
<And to you Brandon>
I was wondering if ya'll have been having e-mail issues?!?
<Oh, yes... thanks for not giving up...>
I have sent the same question 3 times over the past 2 months and have yet to
receive a reply. The question had a 77mb
<Yikes! We only have (total) a webmail service that allows ten megs en toto...
Could have gotten bumped for this alone... Need to re-size, send images of a few
hundred Kbytes... per our instruction set re writing us:
http://wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm>
picture attached and was concerning brittle star fish. I have not received a
bounce back from your server so I am assuming that it got lost in the shuffle.
Please let me know so I know if I should re-send the e-mail again.
Thanks,
Brandon
<Please re-size, attach and re-send. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Sorry Bob,
I misquoted... The size of the image was 75Kb not Mb... I will try to resend the
e-mail right now.
<Ah, good>
Thanks,
Brandon
<BobF>
Email Received? 12/29/06
Hi,
<Hello Stephanie, Mich here.>
I've sent a few emails to the wet web crew over the last week or so, but haven't
received a response.
<I do not recall seeing your email address. What was the subject of your
email?>
I did have a picture attached (resized). It doesn't appear that my emails have
bounced back, and I don't see the reply posted anywhere...Is my mail getting
through?
<I do not think it is getting through.>
Or did I fail the minimum IQ required for a
question (he heee... really hope that's not the case)?
<Most certainly not the case!>
Sorry to pester you, I feel like I'm harassing you folks... but that's not my
intent.
<No worries! I do not think you email was received.>
I just want to be sure something didn't filter out my email because of the
attachment.
<I don't think it would be related to the attachment, but there have been
occasional issue with our server.>
Response or no, I really do appreciate this website and the wealth of
information available through it! ...and so do my fish....
<Great to hear!>
Stephanie D.
<Please try resending. Please note, it is always good if the subject line
doesn't sound like stock tips, sales, porn, or drugs. We get incredible amounts
of junk mail! Thanks! -Mich>
<<These email losses "happen" all too frequently... don't know if the trouble
lies on our ISP/Webmail server end, the recipients, or somewhere in-between...
Troublesome. BobF>>
Re: My snail is dying - 12/12/06
where's the reply? I didn't see it anywhere!
<Hmm.. Thanks for this, Leslie. Here is the reply I added to Mich's previous
correspondence.>
<Hey Leslie, JustinN with you this morning. I noticed your post about your
snail, and thought I'd chime in a bit as well. I would agree with Mich that it
sounds as if there's a lack of calcium and minerals in your water provided for
the snail. One quick and simple solution is to add a clean cuttlebone to the
tank for the snail. This should help him out some. Hope this helps you! Good
luck! -JustinN>
<Bob, I think I know what's going on here... I think that when we're using dual
brackets, its being recognized by email clients as HTML code... Its trying to
treat the comment as executable. Just a thought. -JustinN> <<Ahh! A definite
possibility n the outbound. RMF>>
See Daily FAQ page for "missing" responses - Re: Second letter sent - please
help, somewhat urgent now.... sick betta and compatibility. 12/5/06
Hi Crew,
<Hello Emma - I did indeed respond to your questions when you initially sent
them, but it seems as though our site is having some server troubles. I
apologize for the response not reaching you quicker. I found my reply to you
categorized in the daily FAQ's here, about half-way down:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwdailyfaqs.htm
I think I've answered your queries, but if not, please let me know. Best of
luck, Jorie> <<RMF is wondering, worrying that the world of this and that
"blocking" software is having its way with all of us>>
Goldfishes...? WWM, English, Re-sending... Receiving
12/4/06
Ahoy Crew,
Just wondering if you received my message or not since it's been a few days and
I've read in a few places that it only takes 24 hr (usually) for a
response. Also wondering if perhaps I might've crossed your "typing in proper
capitalization" rule, if I did I apologize and I can resend. But please note
that I earn my way of living by working at a place that involves me typing very,
very fast and where capitalization isn't important, only typing in verbatim. I
also read your response to another (apparently) younger gentleman who hadn't
typed with proper caps, yet his letter to you was still completely
legible. Please also remember the internet is not a place of formalities. With
myspace, and facebook, and xanga, and livejournal and all those instant
messengers running rampant, you should be lucky there aren't any u's, or ur's,
or 4's for fors or other such nonsense.
<"We" are not "them"... proper English is the "coin of our realm"... folks
either pay or we return their efforts>
Basically, please be kind. Each person is doing their best. What if you had a
retarded child who asked for your help with their tank? Would you blow them off
for improper grammar? Or what about someone who was born deaf and has only
known ASL (American Sign Language) their entire life, which is not broken
English but instead an entirely different language using English words?
I do appreciate what you're doing, it's obvious that you have helped a lot of
people with their quandaries. But couldn't you be a little less, oh..
stuck up about it? If you can read it, post it. Don't waste your time retyping
something so it looks pretty. Fishies lives hang in the balance!
:-)
Good luck guys, and don't take things too seriously.
Sincerely,
Ashley
<Ashley... did you receive a response? It may well be that our mail-server is
gone awry yet again. If you don't see such w/in a day, please do re-send. Bob
Fenner>
Re: electric blue ahli spitting out food , labored breathing ... illiteracy
11/30/06
do I get an individual response? or where do I find it on your website?
Vicky
<An individual response was sent to you yesterday by Bob, as well as was posted
to the Daily Q&A section of WetWebMedia. In a day or so, it will be sorted into
FAQ's outlining Cichlids. We respond to all emails at their original email
address, and post the correspondence to our page. Your original message, and
Bob's response, is as follows. -JustinN>
Why the sudden lack of answers?... Don't know... not received 11/18/06
Dear Crew,
<Danny>
After eight attempts at an answer, I have decided that you are either inept or
suffer from an intense lack of caring, although it might be both. I sent the
original letter with a sincere hope that it would be answered and with no
failure delivery notice, I assumed you got it. After the third and fourth
letter, I became more cynical and pessimistic.
<Something strange here... we respond to all... Must not have been getting...
though this is here... Perhaps "something" on your end>
When I wrote the eighth letter asking about a species of fish, I did not expect
a response since I had already decided this website is governed by fools.
Please take this as personally as your self-esteem will allow and although I
cannot in any way affect your website, learn from it.
<Mmm, I assume you're not a jokester or mentally ill... If you, others have
difficulties reaching our mail server, you're welcome to send to my personal
addr: fennerrobert@hotmail.com
Bob Fenner>
WWM - 11/13/06
Hello ... out of sheer frustration I am emailing you to ask HOW to post
a question.
<Mmm, oh! This is it!>
I also went to a site recommended by your site, registered,
logged in, and can't seem to ask there either. Keep getting error
message. Feel like I am trying to ask for blueprint of Fort Knox, lol.
Thanks, Jean
<Heeee! Where's the gold? Do just send your queries, input to
Crew@WetWebMedia.com... we respond directly... Bob Fenner>
Lost Email? No, Just Delayed - Our Apologies. - 10/18/06
Can someone help me? I'm sending this again, as I'm unsure if you have received
it the first time.
<Yes, we received it; I apologize, we are absolutely swamped with e-mails at the
moment...>
Jorie has so far been the one to answer my questions, so that is why I directed
the email there. But if Jorie has been unable to answer for some reason, I don't
mind input from someone else,
thanks! :-)
<Pam, again I apologize for the delay. Do see my previous e-mail (sent a few
minutes ago) for substantive help. Jorie>
Question to Bob Fenner about contact info of Avinash Singh
Hi Bob,
I have found your conversation with Avinash Singh about breeding Lysmata
debelius shrimps...
I have found on the internet that this guy has completed his Master thesis doing
this project.
Could you please contact me with him ? Any e-mail ?
I am really interested as an hobbyist to breed my shrimps and I would like to
contact this guy.
Please do what you can,
Thanks!
Przemek Iwaszczyszyn
<I wish I could... will find, place your note next to his in the hope he will
contact us re... Would you like your email addy posted on the Net/WWM? We don't
accumulate, post generally. Bob Fenner>
Re: Question to Bob Fenner about contact info of Avinash Singh 10/4/06
No, I would rather not have my e-mail openly on the www.
<Ahh... me neither>
He is probably not visiting our forum anymore since his project is finished he
probably has moved to the
next thing...
If you do not have his e-mail than do nothing.
<Again, we don't retain generally, nor give out folks personal email addresses
w/o their express consent>
Thanks!
<Real good. BobF>
foggy glass, attitude 8/8/06
was just curious. don't care if you post this or not, but an email back
would be greatly appreciated. my roomie and i both have salt water tanks
going, blah, blah blah. we both work at a seafood restaurant, and they gave
us their lobster tanks, along with the sumps and everything. a pretty
sweet, and expensive setup. anyway's, my roommate got his going, but we've
noticed that the tanks are like triple layered with glass.
we noticed that there was condensation in between the tanks when they were
outside, but that left once there was water in them. long story short...
the middle glass is a little foggy. are there any solutions to use that
will clean this? some how somthings getting in that middle pane. think
were screwed? thanks in advance.
<Please correct your English and re-send>
are you serious? i wasn't writing to get printed.
<We post all... but have to correct same.... for lack of diligence on some folks
part...>
i'm a fellow fish
enthusiast that needed a little help with if there's a way to get that
fog off.
didn't want to switch tanks if i couldn't get that fog off. thanks for
nothing.
<...
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/QueryCorrsRefPg.htm
Follow directions, remain ignorant, jump off a bridge, go elsewhere... Your
choice>
whatever man. if that's the way talk to the people. i'll remain ignorant.
<... try to get a job with this poor grammar, crap attitude... Not smart>
better then being a snob. there's nothing wrong with my first email to
you guys. guess i'll just call the people who made the tank. but thanks for
the response back. it will look great posted on my site. cheers.
<Good luck, life to you>
thanks, and if you read my question to you, you'd see that i do have a job,
and that's where i got my tanks from. sorry i don't capitalize my words.
at least i double space after each sentance. yay. lol. good luck to you
too.
<Heeeee! Sometimes more.... sentenced to the food svc. biz, or perhaps modern
teebee show titling! Thanks>
A Thank You ... using WWM! 7/28/06
Crew,
<<Tom with you this time, Alex.>>
Not a question, but a quick thanks for all of your work. Story:
One (not so) fine day I noticed some short red wormlike things trailing out of
my Bolivian Rams' anuses. After less than five minutes on WWM, I found a
question from a person who had the same species of fish that also had Camallanus
worms, and saw how to treat it. Within a day of discovering the worms, thanks
to your site, I had purchased PraziPro and started treating the fish in a
quarantine. Unfortunately, it was too late to save one of the rams, but the
other, along with the Zebra Danios that shared the tank,
appear to have turned the corner in terms of vitality, eating, etc. The
point? Within five minutes of opening my web browser, I: found someone that
had the same problem, diagnosed the problem, found the actual ingredient to
treat the fish, found a common product name containing said ingredient, and
found how to effectively treat using the medication. Many, many thanks for this
great resource - my fish and I are in your debt!
<<A wonderful testimonial, Alex. While I can't take credit for saving your fish,
I assure you that I'm proud to be associated with this fantastic group of folks.
For all of us, I thank you kindly for your complimentary post and wish you
continued good fortune in this great hobby of ours!>>
Alex
<<My best. Tom>>
Hello? Anyone there? 7/28/06
Dear Crew,
I am writing this to find out if I am doing something incorrectly in regards to
emailing you. This is probably my third attempt at trying to reach you in which
I have never received a response. I have written in on several different
issues, then resent those at least 2 other times, but never heard back. I send
the email directly from the site, but for some reason my emails never seem to
reach you, or so I think. I thought I would attempt contact you without
forwarding my inquiry at this time. I did send it on Sunday early afternoon,
then resent it again the day before yesterday. Can you tell me if there is
something I am missing here? Am I just being impatient?
Sincerely,
Tiffani
<Is the right address, method... Thank you for following up... we continue to
have "missing email" issues with DP (our ISP)... All are generally responded to
w/in 24 hours... BobF>
Re: Upgrading questions... too rude to follow directions 7/24/06
Thank you for the help and directions.
<Welcome>
As far as the "too rude to follow directions" comment, that was not my intent.
<Ahh, thank you for this clarification>
The wealth of information on your site is a little overwhelming and, at times,
hard to maneuver through.
<Mmm, there is a "bunch to know"... or maybe better put, that one can know...
and knowing more increases ones chances for success, and enjoyment...>
I was looking for some quick, concise information in doing something I had never
done before and was a little nervous about doing.
<I see>
Thank you, once again, for the help you provided.
Ron Daley
<Thank you, Bob Fenner>
Re: toadstool question, explanation of English trouble/s
7/20/06
To Bob Fenner,
<Dave>
I'm sorry for the poor grammar. I was born mentally handicapped and have a
hard time forming sentences properly and typing.
<I too was "classified" as deficient and spent the first five years in "school"
with folks whose big event of the day was "filling their pants"... I learned to
learn by using the tools cited...>
I had someone help me this time. Thank you for your quick response and help. My
tank is my only hobby and I'm afraid to lose it. I do appreciate it,
Thank you
<As I do your participation. Do consider using, learning through the spelling
and grammar checking tools on your word processor... They will help you help
educate yourself... Bob Fenner, learning every day>
MY ANGEL FISHES HAS STARTED TO DIE OUT BUT THEIR FOOD HABITS AND
WATER CHEMISTRY IS ALRIGHT WHAT SHOULD i DO
<http://www.wetwebmedia.com/faqstips.htm
Please look at the above link and conform your message (i.e., use
sentence case capitalization, and provide basic information about
your setup, including tank size, other inhabitants, water parameter
readings, etc. There's absolutely nothing I can do to help you with
the single sentence you've provided above. Jorie>
Less hand-holding... 7/8/06
please ignore last email, have gained confidence, don't need to hold crews
hand all the time, lol.
<Yay!>
forums and website proving very helpful - ty so much. will only get in touch if
necessary.
:)
<Good! BobF>
Re: Tank Inhabitant Question, Proper American/English please
7/1/06
Ok. Now I think I understand about the grammar and spelling. Originally I
thought you were referring to the scientific names only. If i <"I"> am right,
you
want correct spelling to include emails in your archives. I will do my best in
future to get out of email grammar mode!
<Yes, these are posted on a daily basis for public reading. The less editing we
have to do allows us to answer more queries per day. Is not an 8 hour day, the
crew is strictly made up of volunteers with minimal time available.>
Thanks again!
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Sam
Unanswered Email? - 06/20/2006
Hey guys (again),
<Good Evening Eddy>
I just realized that my last email has gone unanswered. It was one about
maintenance of a 55 gallon tank. It has been three days, but if you guys are
backed up with questions or something, that's cool, I can wait. By the way, just
thought I'd tell you guys that I got a job at my LFS!
It's pretty cool because they're not one of those crappy stores with all of the
Oscars in a 5 gallon or something. Thanks Again!
<Sometimes emails get lost in the fray. This is completely unintentional and we
hate when it happens, but its part of the game. I apologize if you haven't
gotten an answer, however resend your email and we'll see what we can
do! Congrats on the new job also! Do some good with that opportunity
there! Have a great one, Jen S.>
Eddy
ich: salt and heat question ... Lost Mail Woes 6/18/06
About the question I sent you a couple of weeks ago - I was disappointed I
didn't get a response,
<Mmm, we have a great deal of such "lost mail"... very frustrating>
but in thinking about it (I don't have a copy of the sent message) I'm not sure
if I said "please" and "thank
you", especially since I bothered you at a personal e-mail address.
<Not a problem. I generally send all either here, or a copy of the response to
WWM to post>
I saw your e-mail as a link in one of the Ich articles I read and just assumed
it was ok to write. Bad form and I'm sorry about that. For what
it's worth, the heat/salt treatment seems to be working but I'm still very
curious about my question about salt concentration. If you choose not to
respond I respect that and will not bother you again.
Jason
<Don't recall seeing this. Please re-send. BobF>
T5s, Depth, and Corals - II - 06/17/2006
Thanks for the reply.
<Glad to be of service.>
I will check the web site later today. And sorry about the stationary, I will
send any further questions in plain text.
<MUCH appreciated, thanks!!>
Thanks, Tim Wagner
<All the best to you, -Sabrina>
Knifefish Tankmates - 06/07/06
Hi, I like ur website
<But not enough to respect our guidelines, avoid netspeak>
Can a 7 inch black ghost Knifefish and some tinfoil barbs live with African
cichlids (juveniles) like yellow labs and powder blue cichlids?
<Not a good mix>
My friend used to have these fish together and nothing happened, It looked
like if they minded their own business.
<Only for a while. How is the knife to compete for food here?>
Some people say that it is wise to start adding less aggressive fish first and
then work your way up to stabilize the compatibility
rather than mixing aggressive fish first when stocking ur tank.
<This is a good general guideline. Bob Fenner>
>>actually ongoing vague questions that are sufficiently covered
on WWM 5/25/06
Sorry Bob. Sometimes it's easier to continue asking questions of the
experts than to go do the research on your own. Thanks again.
<Uhh... there are a few tens of thousands of visitors to our sites daily...
Please learn to/use the indices, search tool... There is generally much "added"
material than folks directly ask, know to ask... part of the "magic" of such
compilatory tools as WWM. Cheers, BobF>
| A good-poor example 5/14/06 |
Thank you for contacting us at WetWebMedia.com
Your reply is below
<Please correct text and resend. Did you read "tips for sending"?>
<<"And a note on spelling, grammar, punctuation. Please, PLEASE take the
time to go over your messages to us...Common courtesy, a desire to serve
as proper examples... should compel you to capitalize proper nouns (BUT
NOT THE WHOLE MESSAGE!), run your spell-checker... re-read your posts
for clarity, completeness. Of the hours per day spent responding to,
"moving around" "FAQs" this activity takes up the most time and is most
onerous. Do help us help you here by reviewing, correcting your input.
Thank you, Bob Fenner.
Don't have time, discipline, the wherewithal to search first, fix your
English before sending? Don't write us!">>
<James (Salty Dog)> |
hi, i dont understand whats going on in my tank, if i run nothing
but pc,i
dont have this problem but if i run my metal halides i do have this
problem,there will be thousands of clear tiny bubbles all over the glass
on the
aquarium, i can wipe them off and in hours there back they are clear
bubbles i do
have a little algae but not that bad, i am running hamilton mh 3 175 mh
bulbs
and 2 96 watt pc,the tank is 135 gallon 6 ft long everything else is ok
in the
tank, i have all fish ,and they are happy, i just cant see in the
tank,if i
run mh's, i was thinking about getting coral but i have to get rid of
the
problem first i run the lights about8 hrs a day, but in the last month
only pc's
please help me understand this problem... i dont know how old the bulbs
are i
bought this unit used,thanks |
The two-way street that is in/consideration, writing to us at WWM
- 5/2/2006
Thank you for the English lesson. I have read all of that page before i,
sorry I emailed you. you didn't answer my question. i wanted to know how many
times a week I should feed them. I didn't write to you to be ridiculed. if you
don't like your job, then find a new one.
<<This is Lisa now, here to inform you that this is not any of our ‘jobs’. This
is an all volunteer staff.>>
I simply can't believe how rude you people are to those that write for
information.
<<This is untrue. I/we have people that write in on a regular basis, and with
whom I have never had a harsh word, from them to me, or otherwise. I can’t
believe how rude you are to expect us to re-write your emails and not even have
the decency to capitalize your sentences and use grammar/spell check, which I
can see from your above paragraph, you still won’t do. I do wonder where some
people’s sense of entitlement comes from.. We get tones of emails everyday,
which we all answer gladly, and offer as much helpful information as we
can. Then to get an email from someone that assumes we have all the time in the
world to take out of our days to answer something not even written properly is
more than frustrating. This site is viewed by many people, all over the world,
and accuracy in language is paramount for everyone’s understanding of the
material here.>>
If you don't want to respond to questions, then you shouldn't have that option
on your website.
<<We love answering emails, just not re-typing hundreds per day, which I’m sure
you can understand.>>
On your site you tell people over and over they need to soak there food in
vitamins and then you make a smart remark when I told you how I soak there
<<their>> food. I realize you are suppose to know everything that is why you
have this job right,
<<No, and this is not our job, it’s our pleasure to volunteer our time to help
those willing to help themselves.>> well you could at least give me some insight
not respond with
"...." Thank you, and "I" would appreciate any help you would be "willing" to
give me. If you don't want to respond please let someone who will do so.
<<Any of the crew would be more than happy to help you if you would only take
the time to compose a proper email. That’s all we ask. I really don’t think
that is mean. Lisa.>>
Re: Carpet Anemone/Compatibility/Anemone
Systems 04/17/2006
<<James, need more link/s, guidance than this. RMF>> Check your links...
Bob,
That link should have covered it. My intention was for her to read Anemones In
Captive Systems so she would get some information on anemones in general.
In that same article. ......."Carpet Anemones: Named for their immense size
(sometimes more than a meter/yard across) and "pile"; numerous colored
tentacles. Very
difficult aquarium specimens that "shed", otherwise can/do sting and poison
tankmates.", Carpet Anemones is highlighted and links to an article titled
"Carpet Anemones In Captive Systems". I realize this has not been written yet
but does provide links to all the carpet anemone FAQ's. I guess I could
have simplified this for her by giving her general requirements and link her to
the carpet anemone FAQ's. Thank you for the critique.
James
<I understand your intent... am (just) concerned that if folks do simply go to
too-general linked files they won't read them through. Thank you for this
explanation. BobF, who would add another more-specific link at times>
Re: <<James, need more link/s, guidance than this. RMF>> Check your links...
4/18/06
Bob,
Thanks. Will be more specific, especially with difficult to keep species as
these. Hopefully she will write back and I can redeem myself.
James
<Heee! No need for redemption (term always makes me think of S & H Green
Stamps!). B>
Cured Live Rock/Nitrogen Cycle Confusion II, Actually: comment on FAQs, search
tool use -
04/13/06
Thanks for the advice Eric.
<<My pleasure Chris>>
One thing I have to say - for every 10 questions I have, about 9 are
answered by your docs and FAQ's on the site, so your archives and search
engines are definitely a very valuable resource!
<<Ah, thank you for this! It's good to hear they are used...and
appreciated!>>
Have a great Easter weekend.
Chris
<<And to you in kind my friend, EricR>>
Question about salt water tank set up... Like, "what is it"?
3/29/06
Hi there Bob,
how are you, ?
<Fine>
I am need to salt water aquatic tank, and so ancient about it already ( not
even having a tank yet) . I had order a 90 gallon tank with over flow shut
off valve built in. but, having a difficult to decide what is good to buy
the rest of the stuff, so many choices out there) to start, I was planning
on buying the Aqua C EV- 120 , or ev-180 , with or with out JG fitting,, I
am little lost what to do only on that part, also,
<?>
can you please let me know about what brand and items I would also need, I
would want a good sump ( please let me know what size is good) with
refugium, and etc.. please help me with which Aqua C skimmer and other items
might need to finish getting all the items. thank you so much,
kind regards,
Rick
<All posted on WWM. Time to read Rick, make lists... enjoy the process. Bob
Fenner>
Queries - 03/26/2006
Hi, I asked a question earlier about stocking and compatibility and I was
wondering how I go about getting the answer. Do you send an email to the asker,
or do you only post the answered?
<We do both>
I guess this is a dumb question because if you only post the answers I will be
in the same situation I am in now. Thanks, cro.
<See the "Daily FAQs" if your question was recent, or the archived FAQs files by
category... it's possible the query was "lost", so you may re-submit it. BobF>
Read: Follow instructions or don't write us
3/24/06
Hello Again Mr. Fenner,
I apologize if I offended your senses with my original e-mail. I may have
made some grammar errors, but at least I can spell and use punctuation. Most
of it is just bad habit. I am a 47 year old woman with an 8th grade
education. Most of what I have learned in those years, has been through
experience. I don't think I am doing too bad. It sort of made me feel bad
the way you reprimanded me. Perhaps you could have mentioned the errors
without belittling me. Again I thank you for your great website, your time, and
your help.
Sincerely, Carole Jurrens
<Mmm, to be clear... It is not my intention to be/appear rude, but to be
erudite: Concise, clear, to the point. In the link:
http://wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm
and Tips, you will find we demand that folks use Proper English (the coin of our
realm) in writing us. Having spent a few hours per day most of the last decade
or so building this tool with friends, I am adamant that it not be a parade of
poor examples. Re your age and academic background, if you have concerns re
this, do consider "going back" to school. There is time. In the meanwhile, I
encourage you to do as I, and use the spelling and grammar checkers on your
system. Greatly instructive... See under "Tools"). Bob Fenner>
Hello again,
Perhaps you should use your own philosophy and practice what you preach.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=innocuous
Good day sir.
<Thank you. BobF>
What happened? Re: Unanswered Emails 3/23/06
Hi. I want to thank you all for the valuable information your site
provides. I sent in a question about 2 weeks ago, which I've not gotten an
answer to.<Erin, Jen here. I know the mail server has been having some
problems. I'm sure it just got lost.> I hope my email met all of your
requirements for posting, <I'm sure it did, especially because it seems
you've read the FAQs.> and know that you've stated in the past that some
emails don't go through. I'm hoping this is simply an email problem and not
a result of my own error with the email. I really need help with the ID of
something in my tank, as I think it's health may be degrading, and I'm not
even sure what it is. I've seen some indications of people sending emails
directly to Mr. Fenner, and wanted to see if this is an acceptable
alternative. <Alright, send the email through to the crew again, preferably
with some pics of the unknown animal and I'm sure someone will
answer. Thanks, Jen S.>
Thank You for your time.
Erin
How do I send a picture of identification to you???
3/20/06
<As a sized (a few hundred kilobytes max. please) jpg, or bmp, attached. Bob
Fenner>
Knowledge is Power, My Friend - 3/16/2006
Ok so, I wanted to know how to make my mom fish better, and you gave me a
website to read. MY FISH WAS DIEING AND YOU WANTED ME TO READ A WEBSITE?????
<<I was not the one to respond to your letter, but I will take this one. These
‘website’ pages you were referred to are made of a massive amount of time,
energy, expertise and caring, by an ALL VOLUNTEER staff.>>
This was an emergency and I needed an answer fast, hence why I did email instead
of reading up on it!
<<I find it rather rude that you would expect people to re-write the answers to
questions that have already been answered, because you didn’t want to read up on
it. I understand that it was an emergency, but if you used the Google search
toolbar available on WWM, you may well have found your answer just as fast, if
not faster. You also could have been proud that you need not be spoon-fed
information that is readily available to those willing to find it.>>
so I started to read the page you gave me (34 SHEETS OF PAPER and 18,659
WORDS!!!), after fifteen minutes she DIED. That’s right, while reading a website
with no useful info on what I asked for my beautiful baby girl died! Next time
if someone asks an emergency question give them the answer! not a freakin
website to read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<<Next time you have a question that has already been answered, read. Again, I
would like to remind you that no one is paid to be here, we do so because we
care. Please be polite enough to at least read what people have put forth. I
do wonder where you get your sense of entitlement.>>
Thanks to this, her fry will grow up without a mom nice to know eh?
<<Thanks to your lack of willingness to learn, yes, it is unfortunate. Lisa.>>
Lighting - 03/12/2006
I'm back needing your assistance again. I have just purchased a 150 gal
glass aquarium, 60x24x24. I intend to have a large sump in the stand, and
would like to dedicate this aquarium to anemones and very light load of
fish. I've started making the stand and have opted to build a canopy and
house the lights there. You have advised me in the past before I decided to
build a canopy that an HQI setup would be ideal. So now I'm a little
confused about the "retro" options available to me. First of all is the
number of bulbs...2 or 3 in 60 inches. Second is wattage and temperature of
these bulbs. Last is the confusion over whether I need PC's and moonlights
in addition to the MH's. As always...Thank you in advance for your advise
and your website. I love it.
Gary
<Then use it... Bob Fenner>
Misc. questions that are answered already on WWM - 03/12/2006
Is it true a lower salinity level and lower temperature helps reduce ich .
Do anemones require anything special added to water such as iodine , etc.
I heard about sump pumps, do they work better than canister filters . Do
sump do any better job controlling parasites such as ich. I have so many
different opinions on UV sterilizers, 1 person swears buy them, 1 person
thinks they are a joke. Any opinions.
I have a quarantine tank . In treating fish with ich , is there any special
way , I should be treating the fish, I had a tang, I thought he
was getting better , then he died
I was using a quarantine tank with about 16 gallons of water . I was
changing the water everyday( 4 to 5 gallons per day) , salt content and
temperature was the same as tank or similar. I was using the chemical
called rid ich + treatment
I had air in tank and skimmer. Any thing I was doing wrong
Can you tell me the proper setup for quarantine tank . Thanks .
<Keep reading. Bob Fenner>
Re: Ich Question ... actually the high price of militant stupidity -
03/11/2006
that is as good as it gets, I do not know anything better to write, thanks
for promptly getting back to me and helping with my problem, sorry I am not
able to promote your web site as well as you would like, I need advice on
fish, not grammer, sorry I am not up to your high standards for published
writing, I just need advice, and quick, which I thought was a concern of
yalls, to help, but I guess not. If you can not help me with my problem, or
simply don't want to, then that is how yall want to be...thanks, or no
thanks...<Wes, what you must understand here is that each of the crewmembers who
answer these queries are volunteering their time to do so. We all have other
jobs/obligations. Most of us do not have all day to spend doing this, most, only
about one hour per day. Keep in mind that these queries have to be edited
before posting on our daily FAQ's on the Wet Web Site. We do strive to promote
a professional looking site and with our limited time available to answer
queries, we certainly don't have time to edit them, at least in this
magnitude. It also clearly states on the web site tips for sending
queries. One of them is asking that a spelling/grammar check be made. Most
email programs do offer a spelling and grammar check tool and all that is
required is to click on it. We are not asking you to have author qualities, just
simple correct spelling, capitalizing where required, things we all learned in
grade school. I do suggest using the google search tool on our web site as most
if not all of your questions are answered there concerning your query. Thank
you. James (Salty Dog)>
Please Read... and write right - 3/5/2006
not much in the topic i know but i have a lot to ask. but first, i have cichlids
and when they all die i am going to start saltwater. in one of my questions if
the fish are not in finding Nemo i really don't know what it is...
1) what is the smallest size aquarium that a person can have saltwater fish?
(size of fish.... maybe clown fish. nothing big)
2) what is the easiest fish to have in a saltwater tank? (if clown fish, YEY!)
3) how stupid can someone be to kill coral (a beginner...)
4) is hard coral more expensive than soft vice versa?
5) is it necessary to have live rocks to have coral?
veronica
<<Veronica, please use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation when writing to
us, and search WWM before sending. All of these questions are covered,
extensively. Lisa>>
"Fix your English and re-send" - 02/25/06
I do believe the respondent meant:
Please, if you write us, take the time to do so in proper language. It takes
enough time, as it is, to respond to questions asked, let alone correct those
emails that do not even try to be grammatically correct. Come on Dan, I know
you can do it!!!
<<Lisa.>>
A Troublesome Feeder and Fish Compatibility ... just read - 2/21/2006
Hi crew. I have a couple of questions pertaining to selecting a couple of
fish for my tank. It is 330 gallons, with the full reef setup (halides, UV
sterilizers, a protein skimmer etc.). The tank currently houses 12 green
Chromis, 1 royal Gramma, 1 red Dartfish, 1 juvenile Naso tang, 2 skunk cleaner
shrimp, 2
small anemones (live rock hitchhikers), several fanworms, 13 turbo snails, @12
hermit crabs, 14 Nassarius snails, and two brittle stars. The water
parameters are good, and we are planning on getting a Ricordea or Discosoma
polyp colony soon. My first question concerns the Naso tang. We bought it last
weekend
from a reputable dealer with whom we've had past good experiences. The tang had
a few small scratches due to being kept with an aggressive triggerfish. We
brought it home, acclimated it properly, and it was soon behaving normally in
our tank.
<Quarantine?>
It even allowed itself to be cleaned by the shrimp the first night we had it.
<... could be trouble...>
The problem is feeding it. We have been feeding Formula 2 flakes, Formula 1
frozen chunks, Mysid shrimp, and sushi Nori, but it has only eaten a few
green flakes. The Nori disappears, but we haven't seen the Naso eat it because
it has become very reclusive (coming out almost only for feeding time) hiding
in the shrimps' cave most of the day. Do you have any suggestions for getting
the tang to feed?
<Yep... are posted>
We purchased an aquarium brand garlic extract to try to coax it to eat, but it
hasn't seemed any more interested. The turbo snails eat
basically all of the algae in the tank otherwise. In the future, we plan on
trying to get at least one more larger reef-compatible fish. Is a longnose
butterflyfish or Foxface safe?
<... also posted>
Last of all, we ave been told that two different kinds of tangs can be kept
together if they differ enough in body shape. Would a sailfin tang be okay to
keep with the Naso if that rule is true? Thank you for your time and
help. -G.G.
<Please... search, read before sending mailed queries. Bob Fenner>
Removal of posting ... 2/8/06
hello,
is there anyway to remove one of my postings on your website?
it is under coldwater systems entitled XXXX.
not a big deal, but would prefer to keep my name and residence off internet and
google search.
through experience of your website, i have come to realize people leave only
first names typically.
it would be much appreciated.
thanks,
XXXX
<... have removed your name, addr... Don't send anything on the Net you don't
fully expect to be posted... >
understood. thank you. sorry for the hassle.
am a big fan.
how does the info get removed from google search though?
can still access my name through the search engine linking me to your website.
thanks again,
XXXX
<Mmm, I think that next time the crawler from Google et al. comes by (no more
than a day likely) the referent will be gone... BobF>
One more question Bob- 2/7/06
<... please include previous corr... Am so feeble-memoried that I can barely
find my keys...>
You know how you said my tank is overstocked? Well i am giving the tang away
to a friend with a 120 gallon tank. But is it safe to add more coral
(soft) and not be overstocked? thanks
<?... don't know... who are you? What is the make-up of your system? Where are
my keys? Dang! BobF>
Anemone, WWM Searching for info. - 2/4/2006
I am sorry to take your time. I have tried to find the answers to my
questions but have not done very well.
<I've gots to write up a "pop up" that gives instructions, examples of how to
use the Google Search tool on WWM... the stats server shows its use to be less
than 100 sessions any given day... out of tens of thousands of visitors...>
I have inherited a salt water system and am trying to take a crash course on
keeping it as it is to beautiful to discard. It seems to be doing well. The
system has three anemones
<... not likely for long>
about three inches apiece. They are all right together and during the day look
like one but at night they shrink and become separate.
<Not unusual behavior.>
From my reading I would assume they are carpet anemones as they are flat, kind
of brownish with short (half inch) tentacles that are green. Two of the three
are splitting. Is this normal?
<Umm, not likely... due to stress>
Is there something I should be doing other than feeding them and will they all
get along being that close together?
Again, sorry to take your time. Thank You Bob
<... no need to apologize... see WWM re Anemone Behavior... Here on Google:
http://www.google.com/custom?q=anemone+behavior&sitesearch=wetwebmedia.com
You need to find what this species is here... Can be searched... Anemone
Identification...
Bob Fenner>
Suggestions for "Ask WWM a Question" 1/1/06
No need to respond! Just passing along some ideas hoping they are not
too costly to implement if you like them. Idea 1) Require question
askers become registered users. Note: All areas of the site except this
section would not require registration. Although you do ask visitors to
try finding their answers first as well as post a 'Tips' for asking
questions on the site, perhaps being a little stronger about this request would
help.
<Maybe... but couldn't, wouldn't folks just put in "phony", that is, spurious
information for their registration?>
Idea 2) When a visitor clicks the 'ask a question'
link, have 'Tips' come up where the visitor must 'check a box' that they
followed the tips advice first.
<Oooh, I do like this>
I know this is doubling up, but a great chance to 'sell' the importance of the
process. Examples: When listing
tips, perhaps you could say, we offer a Goggle search within 'this' site
due to the vast amount of information already available. When asking
that existing info in a continued exchange be copy and pasted in, share
how doing so allows all who serve on the WWM site to work as a team. I
can't believe you have to ask for spellchecked messages,
<Such is the state of our citizens, users... sigh... Were there but a way to
zing, zap such laziness via the Net....>
but it wouldn't hurt to point out that the WWM team are held to high
professional
working standards and you deem it reasonable to expect the same in return.
(Anthony clued me into to this fact)
<No wonder he's gone!>
Consider asking authors to read and edit out unnecessary or repeated
information before sending
their questions. It will help assure a timely response and also prove helpful to
expedite the research process.
<Agreed>
Lastly, perhaps you can consider a new practice of thanking authors for
providing their water
specifications and deleting out all those scoring in normal ranges to reduce the
size of posts.
<Hard to judge... well, make that impossible (for me natch) to ascertain
what/which data is extraneous... in the present... or future... to us/me or
other browsers...>
Debi Stanley-Viloria
<Thanks much for your insight, input. Bob Fenner. Miguel, can we make a smaller
"pop up" sort of "Tips" window as Deb suggests here?>
Constructive Criticism - 12/30/2005
Dear Mr. Fenner/WWM-crew
<Hi there Tim!>
Re: email exchange of 11/25/05 entitled "My new aquarium thingummy, basic lack
of regard for using WWM.. "with Bryna.
<Ahh...This one (for all reading)
"My new aquarium thingummy, basic lack of regard for using WWM
im <No such word: I'm> getting into a saltwater tank after years of fascination
with tropical fish. I purchased a 25 gallon nanocube tank, with the blue lights
so I can get coral later, I have living Fiji rock and live sand, I also have an
Amphiprion tricinctus, and a Pterapogon kauderni. so far so good, the temp has
stabilized at approx. 77 degrees F. the cardinal isn't eating, however. I am
feeding them what the store owner told me was best: "Ocean Nutrition : Formula
Two" I know the cardinal likes to eat feeder shrimp, marine flesh etc. What's
the difference?
<What?>
The ingredients say it has salmon in it, is that enough?
<Obviously not>
I'm looking for some basic tips, I'm a super beginner. Got the tank last week,
added the fishes yesterday. Also, do I need an anemone for the clown? I know
they go well with Stichodactyla mertensii, good for the cardinal too? I know the
cardinals like long- spined sea urchins, is that okay for the clown? I'm just
looking for some reassurance! thanks! ( also, any suggestions on what I can add?
coral? other fish? etc?
-Bryna
<Uh, try looking over our site: www.WetWebMedia.com see the search tool? See
the indices? Try them, you'll like them. Bob Fenner>"
I have enjoyed reading through your website. As a free, detailed source of
information it can't be beat.
<Glad you've enjoyed it.>
I assume though that you are interested in feedback, and indeed I am a bit
embarrassed to bring this up.
<All opinions welcome friend.>
I could not help but comment though on this exchange of emails regarding the
above. It seems there was an unnecessary breakdown in civility. Would this
happen in normal conversation?
<Actually I believe it would for most people. Imagine dedicating your time to
teaching others (on any subject). Making an extensive effort to present a clear
concise explanation for all different aspects/angles. Imagine compiling all of
your knowledge and thoughts, presenting them to a group (somewhat like a class
followed by open discussion) and then allowing those that need further
clarification or better yet those wishing to push beyond established borders to
"raise their hand". When an individual begins by clearly demonstrating that they
have not paid you the least bit of attention, it feels quite like a slap in the
face. It's blatantly disrespectful and I believe irritating to anyone who has
ever put forth such an effort.>
While concern for our marine charges should supercede concern for feelings of
the owners, it just doesn't seem necessary to be overly condescending on the
occasional misinformed beginning hobbyist.
<I agree. However I feel there's a distinct difference between one who is
misinformed and one who has not made the first effort to inform themselves or
follow the established protocol for seeking such answers (outlined when one
clicks "Ask the crew a question").>
Maybe it is intended to haze a lazy hobbyist into action, dissuade the
uncommitted one, or just plain blow off some steam after reading thousands of
emails.
<No, I don't feel this is accurate.>
I doubt these types of approaches ever achieve their goal though.
<All depends on the receptiveness of the individual I suppose, but I think you
are right.>
It does however leave a sour taste with at least some readers. Is it really
necessary (even if you are spending uncountable hours answering thousands of
insipid or repetitive emails for free)?
<Necessary...probably not, a natural reaction...probably so. Don't you feel (at
least slightly) that it wastes your time as much as ours? The time taken on such
could have been spent on the other individuals who listened/studied fervently,
instead however they must wait for their response, sometimes much longer than we
would like. I believe that it's not intended to condescend to others but rather
uphold/encourage some system of progressive exchange.>
How about just a brief, neutral, general reply referencing to the website?
<I understand, though seldom does such sugar coating ever achieve its goal
either.>
No disrespect intended, just feedback.
<None perceived. Tim, I can only speak for myself on this so it's possible I've
misconceived the intentions of others, I don't feel that is the case however.>
Sincerely
Tim Whiteley
Everett, Washington
<Thank you for the time and consideration. - Josh>
Questions and procedures
Dear Mr. Fenner,
I sent in a rather long and detailed description of my situation and
a question to you through the Amazon Honor system link.
<I know nothing re these>
Should I expect an answer on the WetWebMedia site, or will I get an e-
mail answering my question?
<Please send along any correspondence to this email address>
I have just discovered your site and enjoy it very much; its a bargain
at the price. I am happy to support such an effective informational
site.
Respectfully,
Bruce McAllister
<Thank you for your kind words, and donation. Bob Fenner>
Re: missing e-mail 12/16/05
Hi crew, I think I'll have to give up trying to get this algae ID'd. I
have probably sent these pictures to you about 5 times now trying
different formats and methods but the only time I can get a response is
when I don't attach the pictures! I am still a massive fan of your site
and visit every day thinking of new things to learn about so don't
worry, I'm not bitter! I work with computers so I know how unreliable
they are and how difficult it can be to get to the root of a technical
glitch. Incidentally, I did a search on WWM to see if my original query
had been answered but not replied to and the search function found a
question on the Daily Q&A page (wetwebmedia.com/daily_faqs.htm) which
contained the following text "Leif <Adam J.> <<The issue seems to be
with the html tagging/code, and how our mailserver software operates and
handles this. The problem is not just with" and when I clicked on the
link to take me to that page, this was no where to be found.
I am sorry for being a pain but could you possibly give me any pointers
on how you might be able to receive these pictures? Maybe a different
e-mail address? Any help would be appreciated.
I have pasted the previous correspondences to the bottom of this mail.
Thanks
Leif
<Please do try sending to my email:
fennerrobert@hotmail.com with the pix as attachments... reasonably sized jpg's
if possible. Bob Fenner>
Re: Mixing Tangs in an 8' tank 12/13/05
Thanks Salty dog,
I do weekly water changes and alternate Vita-chem and Selcon and feed a
variety of good frozen food and algae strips. My fish eat better than I do!
<My dogs eat better than I do. Kim, in future replies to queries, please
reply with the original query.> Thanks again! <You're most welcome and Happy
Holidays to you. James (Salty Dog)>
Kim
E-mail frustration and pictures….
12/9/05
Hello again,
<Hi.>
I'm sorry to be a pain
<No worries, we here at WWM are forgiving people…….most of the time.>
but it seems that every time I send you a mail with the pictures attached it goes missing,
<Mmm, yes we do have some “technical-difficulties” at times, as frustrating as this may be I would just be
but when I e-mail you without the pictures you reply.
<I can assure you this is not on purpose, I apologize and urge you to try again.>
(please see the forwarded messages)
<I see. I would send another email, because we’ll never be able to give you a positive i.d without on that algae without it.>
Can you suggest an alternative format or e-mail address that I can send these pictures to?
<JPEG should be okay, though we get them in BMP format and GIF as well…probably
a few others that I’m not aware of.>
Originally they were sent as JPEG files (virus checked) but they must be causing some kind of problem. Thanks and sorry
for the hassle.
<Please don’t be discouraged, I look forward to helping you. Have any tips for this gentleman Marina?>
Leif
<Adam J.>
<<The issue seems to be with the html tagging/code, and how our
mailserver software operates and handles this. The problem is not just
with emails sent with photos, it pops up at weird times. Bob's
"fix" is to have folks email directly to his hotmail account, however,
from what I understand hotmail will not allow some messages to get through
anyway, marking as spam, viral (so to speak), or some such other problem.
Then he forwards from his email account (which is probably quite full and may be
bouncing messages). So, you can try emailing to <fennerrobert@hotmail.com>
- but we won't see it till he gets back and forwards. Marina>> Apologies... Correction - Hey, This is Nice... 11/28/05
Palyotoxin = Palytoxin
And after my careful spelling inspection too!
Paul
<<Why Paul, I'm.. I'm verklempt! An actual spelling error follow-up. Thank you very much for this (will be of great help while placing this, too!). Marina and the WWM Crew>> WWM Etiquette - Questions About Questions - 11/25/2005
Greetings from Colorado to the WWM Crew:
<And salutations from the Crew to you!>
I am nearly two months into my fist marine aquarium,
<An exciting time, to be sure.>
and have read many books and FAQs before putting the first drop of salt water
into my tank. I am trying to be a very conscientious aquarist on all fronts.
<Your (future) livestock will thank you.>
My last e-mail was sent to you several weeks ago, and did not get a response.
<I beg your forgiveness on this.... Our email system has been "acting up", and
we actually had some big-ish issues a few weeks back of lost/dropped emails or
ones that didn't have the "tray" that includes our ability to reply....>
I am fearful that I broke some rule, or failed to observe proper etiquette. If
so, please forgive me.
<Oh, no; not in the least. We tend to answer very nearly any legitimate
question sent to us.>
My question this time is simple. Do you have a list of do's and don'ts for WWM
readers?
<Mm, just this: http://wetwebmedia.com/faqstips.htm
and a few other, similar pages.>
I am aware that 1) pictures should be as small as possible, 2) people should
first search for information before asking questions, and 3) attempts should be
made to use proper English, grammar and spelling.
<All correct.>
I wonder if you would prefer one e-mail with several questions, or several
e-mails with one question each.
<My preference, and I believe Bob's preference as well (and likely all the rest
of us), is that all your questions be sent in one larger email.... it is easier
to get a "feel" for your system, and be thorough about answering your questions,
if all are "lumped" together.... Furthermore, in replies or future questions
concerning similar or the same questions you asked before, it is GREATLY helpful
if you can copy any previous correspondences to better help us help you. You
can also put Attn: and the Crewmember's name who helped you in the subject line
to make it easier for us to route your question to the right person.>
Do you prefer that a person give details of tank volume, depth, chemistry,
lighting and maintenance with each question?
<Mm, if possible/pertinent, yes. Usually we're flying on a lack of information
- giving "too much" inf |