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Black patches/poorly... Uhhh, on what? 11/6/09
My fish started to get small black patches on his body last week !
<What sort of fish is this? A Goldfish? A Guppy? A Whale Shark? We do
need to know this... As for the black patches, is this Finrot? Or simply
that the fish's colour is changing?>
Then it has quickly covered most of his body ! I checked water it was
high in ammonia !
<Review conditions in the aquarium. All fish are sensitive to ammonia,
and anything above zero is dangerous. Firstly, check the aquarium is big
enough for the fish being kept. Goldfish for example need an aquarium at
least 30 gallons in size if two are being kept (the minimum number,
since they're social fish). Guppies need 15 gallons upwards. And so on,
depending on the species. Also check the filter is reasonable for the
fish being kept. For small fish, like Guppies, a filter rated at 4 times
the volume of the tank
in turnover per hour is adequate. In other words, for a 20 gallon tank,
you'd use a filter rated at 4 x 20 = 80 gallons per hour. For bigger
fish, especially messy species like Goldfish, you'd up this to 6 or 8
times the
volume of the tank. So a 30 gallon Goldfish aquarium would need at
minimum 6 x 30 = 180 gallons per hour. The gallons per hour (GPH) (or
litres per hour, LPH) number will be printed on the filter pump or its
packaging, if you don't know it.>
So did a few water changes the ammonia remained the same so did a full
water change ! Ammonia is now perfect /ph perfect nitrate etc all ok !
<Well water should be "perfect" after a water change. The tricky bit is
keeping it that way. I mention this because 99% of the time, fishkeepers
are dealing with sick fish because they're not providing the right water
quality or water chemistry. Goldfish for example need 0 ammonia, 0
nitrite, a pH between 7.5 and 8, and a hardness level above 10 degrees
dH. So check the numbers your test kits provide against what an aquarium
book tells you about the species being kept.>
I have put in gold disease safe two days ago !
<Do you mean "Interpet Goldfish Disease Safe"? Believe this is an
old-fashioned mix of formalin, copper, and malachite green. Fairly good
for some external diseases like Ick, Fungus and Finrot, but will have
little/no benefit otherwise. Potentially highly toxic, so avoid using
unless absolutely necessary.>
However the fish is sitting on the bottom of the tank , fin down !
<Just sounds like a fish in poor environmental conditions. Review the
size of the tank, filter, pH and hardness.>
If I approach the tank he perks up and swims normally , but he does not
seem like himself ! I don't know what else to do very worried ! ?
<Assuming this is a Goldfish, which is the only species you'd use
Interpet Goldfish Disease Safe on, then my money is on the aquarium
being too small, the filtration inadequate, the water too soft, or the
diet too monotonous.
Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/goldfish101art.htm
>
Any suggestions ! The other fish is happy as Larry and not effected by
ammonia ! Any suggestions ? Thanks
<Most Goldfish die because their owners kill them. It's a simple as
that.
Given the right conditions, these fish are astonishingly robust. So
please, please, please review environmental conditions. If you need to
discuss any of the above, feel free to write back. Cheers, Neale.>
Fish tank noise, Betta sys. 11/6/09
We have a little Betta who we love.
<Good stuff.>
He lived in a Betta Cube for several months, but now he seems not to be
doing too well (tail rot which I am treating) & we bought him a
Marineland Eclipse tank (3gal). We set it up, and find that it makes
this constant humming noise that it really annoying to humans and quite
loud.
<To be really honest, tanks smaller than 5 gallons are typically "toys"
rather than serious aquaria, and I can't recommend them. The Finrot you
are dealing with is directly related to poor water quality, of that
there's no
doubt. The so-called Betta Cubes are practically death traps, and
shouldn't be used, and even a 3-gallon tank is a marginal habitat, at
best. They're difficult to heat and difficult to filter, and because
they contain so
little water, there's no leeway for error. I have no idea why they're
sold, or for that matter, why people buy them. A 5-gallon tank is, in my
expert opinion (!) the minimum for safe, reliable Betta maintenance.>
I imagine, if you are a fish, it may be devastating.
<Certainly fish are sensitive to vibrations in the water.>
Is it ok for us to move our fish there, or should we get another tank?
<I'd take the thing back if it's new, and get a refund. Much better to
buy a plain vanilla 5-gallon glass tank, or even a 10-gallon tank if
you'd like to add some shrimps and plants and maybe some carefully
choose tankmates like Kuhli Loaches or a school of Corydoras habrosus.
Do see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_5/volume_5_3/stocking.htm
Equip the tank with an air-powered sponge filter, a heater, and you're
all set. Some floating plants are welcomed by Bettas for a variety of
reasons, and Indian Fern would be a good choice here. In that case,
choose a system with some nice bright lights, upwards of 1 watt per
gallon.>
What should we do? We change the water 2x week on the Cube, but we
thought he would be happier in a nice tank.
<That's the theory, anyway. Unfortunately, like many things in life,
quality varies. A little research and a willingness to spend a sensible
amount of money, perhaps on good basic kit rather than something
cleverly
marketed can be wise.>
Please help.
Vicki
<Cheers, Neale.>
Betta behavior 11/6/09
my beautiful bright blue Betta (McSteamy) seems to like burrowing in the
marbles and smooth glass "pebbles" on the bottom of his tank.
<Maybe hungry and looking for food? But more probably, he's annoyed by
the reflections in the glass pebbles and marbles. It should go without
saying that the best (most humane) substrates are natural substrates
such as pea gravel and smooth silica sand. Anything brightly coloured
and/or reflective might seem amusing to us, but fish hate them. Pet
shops will happily sell inexperienced aquarists overpriced glass
baubles, but you'll notice that experienced aquarists don't go anywhere
near them. There's a reason for
that...>
He comes to me when I "call" him by putting the tip of my clean finger
in the water. He actually rests against it and responds every time. eats
well.
He is very small so I assume young. Is the burrowing worrisome?
<May well be an issue if he's disturbed by his reflection. Remember,
male Bettas are territorial, and they will attempt to drive off anything
they consider a rival. If they can't do that, because it's a reflection
not another animal, the continual stress can lead to physical problems.
While there's some debate about how animals respond to behavioural
stress, aquarists agree that a stressed fish is likely to become a sick
fish.>
I appreciate your help.
<Cheers, Neale.>
Constipated female Betta - 2 years old 11/6/09
Hello Crew,
<Hello Elizabeth,>
Thank you as always for the incredible job you do helping us keep our
fish happy and healthy. Pixy lives in a filtered 10 gallon, heated tank.
<What a fantastic home for this fish! Music to my ears. Well done.>
I went away for 5 days and I think she was overfed during my absence.
<Yikes! Remember, instead of scheduling others to feed them, most
(adult) fish are best left without food for up to two weeks. This does
them no harm at all if they're in good health to begin with.>
She is swimming vertically sometimes and has a small bump on her left
side. I did some reading on your web pages and it would seem that she is
constipated.
<Can, does happen... especially where dried foods are used.>
I treated the tank water with two tablespoons of Epsom salts, gave her ¼
of a pea and she has not been fed now for over 24 hours. The feeding
stopped on November 4.
<Good.>
My questions are:
Is there anything more I can do for her?
<Time, afraid, is the great healer here.>
Do you have any idea of when she will start swimming normally again?
<Should clear up within a week.>
Of course I do not want to starve her so I thought I should start
feeding again (her regular amount or less) on November 7 or 8.
<Don't worry about starvation! Don't feed the fish at all until she's
better, or if you do want to feed her, stick religiously to foods that
have a laxative effect, i.e., peas, live (or wet-frozen) daphnia, and
live (or wet-frozen) brine shrimp. Do not use any freeze-dried, flake or
pellet foods; this include freeze-dried daphnia and brine shrimps. It's
the drying process that makes foods more likely to cause constipation,
which is why I recommend they be used as part of a balanced diet,
alongside wet-frozen, live, and/or green foods.>
Can you help me to help her?
Thank you,
Elizabeth
<Happy to help. Good luck, Neale.>
Male Crowntails or Girls with Attitude? 11/05/09
Hi there! I'm having some Crowntail confusion. I recently came across a
batch of Crowntails that look like females but act like males.
<There are fairly aggressive, territorial animals.>
They are very aggressive (as both male and female Crowntails are) and
they are displaying their opercula (I've seen females do this as well).
<Indeed.>
They are not brightly colored (not pastels), but dark rich, red, blues,
purples, etc. Very striking colors.
<Sound charming.>
Anyway, I'm very confused because they are very energetic with their
displays, yet they have the shorter Crowntail caudal fin.<I see.>
Even the ones who seem rounder like females are also vigourously
displaying. They are full adults, so they are done maturing.
<Since males are sent out to pet shops individually bagged, it seems to
be rather unlikely they'd mix up males and females. I will make the
observation here that mature females tend to show their white genital
papillae, even when not actively spawning, so a batch of female fish
would have at least some fish with this obvious feature visible.>
Is there a male short fin Crowntail type that is out now?
<I'd expect so. I'm not an expert on these fancy Bettas, but my
understanding is that some breeders do produce shorter-finned versions.
Cheers, Neale.>
Re African clawed frog hlth., beh.
11/05/09
Hello my African clawed frog was pretty bloated but the bloat went away
<That was lucky.>
I have 2 questions he is still losing skin why?
<In very small amounts, this is normal. But if the frogs are constantly
shedding, there may be a problem with diet or water conditions. Do read
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/FrogsArtNeale.htm
Keep an open mind, and pay particular attention to water chemistry,
water quality, and aquarium size. The fact your frog was bloated in one
point strongly suggests an underlying problem.>
And please tell me why he is some of the time he is at the top of my
tank with his head sticking out
<It is natural for them to rest among floating plants, basking under the
sunshine. They will try to do the same thing in captivity. Cheers,
Neale.>
Convict cichlids breeding information 11/05/09
Hai,
This is Pavan (India).
<Hello again, Pavan,>
I would like the details of how to breed convict cichlids at home.
<Pretty much just add water! Seriously though: provided you give them
good quality water and space for a pair to settle down, they will spawn.
They are extremely good parents, and raising these fry is easy.>
And i like to raise a good bunch of fry.
<Do it right, and you'll have hundreds.>
What are the requirements needed and the food.
<Convict cichlids need hard, basic water at middling temperature. Aim
for 10-20 degrees dH, pH 7.5-8, 25 degrees C. A pair can be kept in a
tank around 100 litres without problems. As with all cichlids, 0 ammonia
and 0 nitrite are critical, and nitrate levels should be as low as
possible, certainly no more than 20 mg/l. Convicts are omnivores and eat
flake, pellets, wet-frozen bloodworms, live brine shrimps, cooked peas,
sushi Nori, cooked spinach, etc. Newly-hatched Convict fry will take
finely powdered flake food (e.g., Hikari First Bites) and liquid fry
food (e.g., Liquifry).>
How to distinguish between male and female. what are the cares to be
taken to not to hurt any of the pair.
<Juvenile fish are difficult to sex. When sexually mature, males are
much bigger than the females. Males also tend to have longer anal and
dorsal fins. Males sometimes develop a "nuchal hump". Sexually mature
females are usually more colourful, with yellow and blue markings on
their dorsal fins and anal fins.>
Pls do the needful. I have a good male which is very aggressive in
nature and it bullies all other fish in my tank.
<Normal. These are not fish for community tanks, and should be kept with
larger cichlid species that are similarly aggressive. I kept my Convicts
in a 750 litre aquarium with a Red Devil, a Jaguar Cichlid, and some
very big catfish species.>
Help me out. Cheers for the answers.
<Cheers, Neale.>
Re: convict cichlids breeding information 11/6/09
Thanks dude for the info.
PAVAN G.S.
<I assume being a "dude" is good! Cheers, Neale.>
FW shrimp tank 11/3/09
Hello All Knowing crew:
<Gosh!>
I so much enjoy this site and had a question for you.
<Fire away.>
Essentially, is my tank still cycled? Here's the situation. My 10 gallon
has completed cycling (been up for 8 weeks).
<Should be cycled by now, assuming there's been a supply of ammonia from
somewhere. Simply running a tank with water but no livestock won't cycle
the tank without a source of ammonia. The easiest way is to add a pinch
of flake every couple days, just as if there were fish in there.>
I've decided to make this tank a shrimp and fry tank.
<Nice.>
It will be heavily planted with lots of nooks for hiding. Due to my need
to redecorate (for the shrimp to show up better, etc), I removed 3/4 of
the gravel (which was 1 1/2 inch deep) and put 1 inch of another
finer-grained gravel on top.
<Okay.>
I have an 8 week old sponge filter and a bio-wheel filter whose intake
is covered with a pre-filter sponge. These have been running since the
tank started. I originally smooshed the sponge filter into my larger
established tank to get the good bacteria going.
<Just to be clear, adding bacteria from another tank is great, but the
bacteria will die back without "food" in the form of ammonia.>
I want to add Amano shrimp but wondered whether this tank is still
cycled and safe for them.
<Assuming proper cycling, then yes. Shrimp are actually quite hardy, and
I've stuck Cherry Shrimps into comparatively young, even new, aquaria
and found they positively thrive. They produce very little ammonia
themselves, and if the plants are healthy and growing, a balance
establishes itself very quickly.>
I know the shrimp are sensitive and prefer an established tank.
<Not kept Amano Shrimps myself, but would assume they're comparable to
Cherry Shrimps.>
Is my tank still safe? Any other things I should consider? By the way,
the shrimp are on their way.
<Good luck!>
Thank you for considering my question.
-Janet
<Cheers, Neale.>
Re: shrimp tank 11/3/09
Thank you for your very quick answer.
<You're welcome.>
I was worried that because I took out so much original gravel (and the
good bacteria) I would have to start cycling again.
<Just to be clear here. Gravel from tanks with undergravel filters is a
good source of bacteria, but from tanks with other types of filters it
is much less useful. Only the very top layer of gravel from such tanks
will
have the nitrifying bacteria we want, because they're very sensitive to
low oxygen concentrations, and so can't live more than a few mm into
gravel beds without undergravel filters. So while taking a handful of
gravel is better than nothing, it's not as good as taking live media
from a mature canister (or whatever) filter and putting it into the new
filter.>
I cycled with 2 fish for the 6-8 week period.
<Should do the trick!>
Thanks from all of us!
<Cheers, Neale.>
white spots on Flowerhorn side fins 11/3/09
Hi Neale,
<Hello again, Amit,>
Thanks for the prompt reply..
<Happy to help.>
I am following the treatment pattern as suggested by you. The fish is
responding well.
<Good. I take it you decided this was Ick/Whitespot (which salt helps)
as opposed to Finrot (which salt doesn't help).>
Meanwhile I wanted to ask you should I step down his diet for the next 7
days and am I advised to make 25 percent water change everyday while
adding salt.
<I wouldn't "step down" feeding, but I *would* check you aren't
overfeeding, and that the food you're offering is nutritious. For many
cichlids, regular offerings of green foods are beneficial, and cooked or
tinned peas are ideal. So try offering some of these. There's also a
good argument for not feeding on one day each week (rather good for
humans too, but most of us don't have the will power!). It is too easy
to overfeed fish. Because they do not have efficient digestive systems,
most of the excess food goes straight out of their bodies. So by cutting
back the food, you won't slow down their growth. Simply offer a sensible
amount of food. One or two meals per day, and not so much anything is
left after one minute. The fish should not look fat; it should simply
have a slightly rounded (convex) belly, but mustn't look swollen or as
if it has eaten too much.>
Awaiting ur reply eagerly
Thanks in advance
Amit
<Cheers, Neale.>
Worms and egg laying? 11/3/09
Hello,
<Hiya - Darrel here>
I have two juvenile red eared sliders. I caught them in the wild. When I
moved them into the tank I noticed the female releasing translucent
strings about a half an inch long. They were slightly curved and I
thought they were shedding their claws but I'm not sure if that is
possible. I thought it was turtle feces but it ended up not being the
case. My question is, what could it possibly be? The objects didn't move
at all so I didn't think
that they were worms. But could they be?
<My guess would be eggs from any number of internal parasites they may
be carrying.>
<The key here is to suction them out, pay special attention to water
quality (in other words, break the life cycle by not letting those eggs
hatch) and the problem will likely solve itself in a couple months>
Also, my female has been digging in the sand as if to lay eggs, and I
left her to it. Later I checked the sand and there were no eggs. What
should I make of all of this?
<Well, if she's a juvenile, then I doubt she's carrying eggs. The
problem is that turtles mature by size and sometimes size is relative.
She'd be 4 1/2 to 5 inches normally before she'd be fertile. If she's
smaller than
that it's probably what it looks like, a false nesting behavior and
nothing to worry about. The good thing about Sliders and the Emydid
turtles is that they rarely, if ever, get egg bound. If she is pregnant
(I doubt it,
but IF she is) and she can't find the proper nesting site, she'll either
re-absorb them or just drop them in the water. The eggs wouldn't survive
of course, but it wouldn't damage her.>
<Here's a link to basic care -- best of luck to you!>
<http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/RESCareBarton.htm>
RES with white spots 11/3/09
Hi,
<Hiya right back - Darrel here>
I have a 5 inch, male, Red Eared Slider who has lots of white spots on
his top shell. I recently noticed that the spots are spreading. The
white spots have the same hardness as the shell and don't smell bad or
discharge pus.
<Presumably they're not simply mineral deposits, but never rule that
out.
Do they scrub off with an old toothbrush and a tiny bit of soap (very
tiny bit)?>
Also the edges of his shell are turned up slightly and transparent
<That happens as the shell grows and the scutes prepare to shed. It's
normal>
The bottom shell also has one white spot on it. What could this be?
<There's a link below to treating common illnesses and I'd suggest you
read and treat for fungal infection. It's a non invasive treatment that
won't hurt him if it's not fungus.>
Thanks for helping, Herpgirl
<Yer welcome!>
<http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/treating%20RES%20Dis%20DarrelB.htm
>
Butterfly Koi; indoors 11/3/09
Hello I have a 180 gallon aquarium (8ft long) and would like to know if
i could keep butterfly koi?
<Depends what you mean by "keep". Will they live in such a tank? In
theory, yes, given adequate space and very generous filtration (we're
talking at least 8 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour)
Koi Carp can be kept indoors. However, very few people are able to
provide the conditions they need as indoor fish. I'm a bit confused by
your aquarium being 8 feet long and yet only containing 180 gallons.
Let's say this tank is 8 x 3 x 3 feet, that's 72 cubic feet in total, or
538 gallons. So something's amiss here. A tank 8 by 2 x 2 feet would
only be 32 cubic feet, or a mere 240 gallons, but you can't keep adult
Koi in tanks two feet wide since they get to more than two feet in
length! So you might want to go back, measure your aquarium, and then
ask your question again. A 538 gallon tank would be acceptable for Koi,
being essentially an indoor pond, though you would need massive
filtration. Whenever I've seen Koi kept indoors successfully, by
which I mean they reach full size and live a normal life, they're in an
indoor pond coupled to a pond-grade filter system. Now, I'll also make
the point that on the whole Koi aficionados tend to look down (being
polite here!) on Butterfly Koi. They are not acceptable at Koi shows for
example, and they cannot be graded (which, among other things, means the
quality of Butterfly Koi varies wildly, and as with anything in life,
you often get what you pay for. Butterfly Koi are essentially absent
from the trade in Europe and Japan, and are really only popular in the
US, where tastes are somewhat different ("less snobby" or "less
discerning" depending on your point of view). What I'm saying then is
that Butterfly Koi, like all Koi,
are extremely demanding when kept indoors -- they're pretty demanding
kept outdoors, too! -- and without any sort of quality control, it's all
too easy to end up with fish with congenital defects, poor disease
resistance, and so on (think of puppy mills in terms of dog breeding,
and apply that to breeders cranking out Butterfly Koi). Do your
research, budget carefully for the needs of the fish, and take some time
to locate a reputable breeder of Butterfly Koi who can supply you with
good quality fish. Cheers, Neale.>
(RMF, what do you think of these long-finned fish?) <<As time has gone
by, I've "gotten used to" this variety, and it is indeed included in
some Koi shows here in the U.S. nowadays. However, not "my cup of tea".
BobF>>
Fish flashing and having
spasms. (RMF, any better ideas?) – 11/03/09
Hi,
<Ave,>
I could use your help with a troubling situation.
<Oh?>
I have a 265 gallon African Cichlid tank that has been setup for roughly
nine months.
<Nice big tank!>
The basic parameters are as follows: Temp- 78F, pH- 7.5, ammonia and
nitrites=0 and nitrates are approximately 40. I realize that the ideal
pH would be in the 7.8 - 8.4 range but my tap is 7.5 and I would rather
keep the water at a stable level than have to constantly doctor it and
possibly cause more stress.
<A pH of 7.5 should be fine for most Malawian cichlids and the hardier
Tanganyikans. What matters rather more than the pH is the carbonate
hardness, because what all these Rift Valley cichlids dislike is
acidification. A high level of carbonate hardness prevents pH dropping
between weekly water changes, and gives you some peace of mind if you
have to leave the tank without water changes for a couple of weeks. Here
in Southern England the water has a very high carbonate hardness because
it comes out of a chalk aquifer, and Rift Valley cichlids are
consequently very easy to maintain. But if your water doesn't have a
high carbonate hardness, you may want to fix that. Sodium bicarbonate
(baking soda) is the thing for that, but rather than adding it by
itself, use a Rift Valley salt mix. There are commercial ones, or you
can use the old "home brew" recipe listed on this page:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWsubwebindex/fwh2oquality.htm
Either way, aim for medium to high carbonate hardness levels.>
I also realize that the nitrates are a little high and will step up my
water change routine to get it down to a more acceptable level.
<Indeed. While nitrate doesn't cause immediate death (it has a very low
toxicity) it does seem to stress many fish, particularly cichlids, when
they're exposed to high levels for long periods. Nitrate also
dissociates into nitric acid when in water, and that lowers the pH. So
there's a double whammy in Rift Valley aquaria.>
Long story short, I believe I am dealing with a combination of internal
and external parasites and would like to know my best course of
treatment before I start dumping medications in.
<Before imagining this to be the cause, I'd strongly suggest reviewing,
and if necessary optimising, water chemistry. The old "internal
parasites" malarkey is often just a shorthand way for aquarists (and
some retailers, to be honest) to put a name on something they don't
understand. Unless you're a vet or a microbiologist, you probably can't
diagnose internal parasites, with a very few exceptions (Camallanus
worms and Hexamita Protozoans spring to mind). Most fish, most of the
time, get sick because of their environment and/or their diet and/or the
tankmates they're kept with. Conversely, most wild fish carry a few
parasites without getting ill at all, because their immune systems
minimise any damage. So the key is this: once a fish is stressed, then
any mild infections it carries can become life threatening. But even
then, it's probably fair to say that most fish that die unexpectedly do
so because of their environment, because they're fed the wrong food, or
because they're kept with the wrong tankmates.>
My Red Shoulder Peacock has spasms that seemingly come out of nowhere.
They remind me of the behavior I witnessed years ago with an Oscar I had
that had Hole in the Head disease.
<Again, Hole-in-the-Head is caused by Hexamita but triggered by
environmental and dietary issues. Hexamita appears to be latent to all,
repeat ALL, cichlids, and it's only when we keep them badly do they
become sick. To take Oscars as an example, if someone was daft enough to
feed them on feeder fish (goldfish and minnows for example) then over
time the fat and especially the thiaminase would weaken their
physiology, allowing the Hexamita to graduate from a harmless passenger
in the gut to an actual source of disease. Hexamita infections also seem
to be commonest in fish exposed to high levels of nitrate (often a
problem with Oscars because of their size and greediness). Finally,
there's a tight link between Hexamita and diet, particularly a lack of
green foods, presumably because green foods supply vitamins. In the wild
even carnivores obtain greens through the guts of their prey; that's why
cats eat the guts of the birds and mice they eat, often before they eat
the "white meat" we assume would be better. Something like an Oscar is
eating green foods directly in the wild, through things like algae and
fruits, as well as herbivorous animals they naturally consume (crabs,
snails, crayfish are key parts of their diet, and why they have such
strong jaws). What I'm trying to make clear is that while it's easy to
blame Hexamita, at the same time you have to realise that somewhere
along the line you ALLOWED it do gain the upper hand.>
The spasm looks like the fish is being electrocuted for a couple
seconds, then it swims wildly around the tank and hides for awhile.
<While this might sound like Whirling Disease (Myxobolus cerebralis)
that's a parasite that can only get into fish via infected Tubifex worms
(and similar worms). Since nobody in their right mind feeds live Tubifex
to pet fish, this shouldn't really be happening. It's far more likely
you're seeing simple poisoning of some sort, what I describe with
cichlids as "loopy" behaviour as they whirl around, seemingly unable to
control their orientation. A variety of things can cause this, including
acidification, poisons (paint fumes for example), and cold water.>
This seems to have gotten worse over the past few weeks. The only time I
have seen any other fish behave like this is a couple of days ago when I
did a water change. While I was refilling the tank, my F. Rostratus
started jerking crazily with his mouth wide open.
<Again, if you see multiple species showing symptoms, it's a good
indication there's an issue with the environment.>
I haven't seen him have any other attacks since. I add water straight
from the tap and add dechlorinator to the tank as I'm filling it and
never had a problem before.
<You can play Russian Roulette a couple times without blowing your
brains out, but that doesn't make it safe. You should always add
dechlorinator to the buckets of water, and stir well, so that any
copper, chlorine, and chloramine is removed. While I understand this is
a chore for big tanks, I'm not a huge fan of doing otherwise.>
I use Aquascience Ultimate water conditioner which also takes out
chloramines and ammonia. For what it's worth, the Red Shoulder was
having a spasm at the same time.
<I would try swapping to a different water conditioner, and I'd check
that yours removes copper. I'd also draw some water from the tap, test
the hardness, carbonate hardness, and pH, and then let the water sit for
a day. Then repeat the tests. Some water supplies seem to contain
various chemicals that alter water chemistry dramatically as they break
down, some are deliberately added, like flocculants, others are a result
of the aquifer or well from which the water is drawn. I'm not a huge
expert on this because it doesn't tend to be a problem in the UK, but
here at WWM we've had any number of messages from people who are dealing
with this issue. Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWsubwebindex/fwh2oqualfaq4.htm
There's much to be said for overriding any fundamental water chemistry
issues by allowing water to stand for 24 hours, testing the chemistry,
and then added Rift Valley salt mix as required.>
My other concern is the flashing exhibited by most of the fish. The
cichlids seem to do this against the sand, usually once or twice a day
that I have noticed. My three clown loaches, however, repeatedly flash
their bellies against a filter intake and also flash against the sand.
<You're keeping Clown Loaches with Malawi cichlids? You do realise they
have fundamentally different requirements in terms of water chemistry,
and to a degree temperature?>
I have not seen anything that would indicate Ich but most of the
cichlid's pectoral fins have some type of white spots on them. The tank
has been treated on two other occasions.
<Treated with what? Many off-the-shelf medications are based on copper
and formalin, and these are toxic to fish. Used carelessly, they do more
harm that good.>
When I received my initial group of five cichlids and eight Synodontis
Multipunctatus, the Red Shoulder and one or two of the other cichlids
were spitting their food. There weren't any other signs usually
associated with Bloat but after five or so days of the same behavior and
at the recommendation of the fish's supplier, I treated with
metronidazole. The fish were all eating normally after three or four
days of treatment. The second time I had to treat the tank was about
five months ago when I introduced the three clowns without quarantining
them.
<Yikes! Clown Loaches are notoriously sensitive to Ick.>
I learned my lesson from both instances and now have a quarantine tank
setup. I treated the tank with Rid-Ich from Kordon according to the
directions and the spots went away after a few days.
<You got lucky; often copper/formalin treatments simply kill Loaches.>
I would like to also rule out any environmental problems before I start
to medicate.
<You can't.>
The substrate is a 50/50 mix of aragonite sand and play sand from Home
Depot. Could it be possible that the play sand is irritating the fish?
<Certainly possible. Obviously aragonite sand isn't compatible with
Clown Loaches. It will raise the pH and carbonate hardness, and that's
something that will severely stress Clown Loaches in the long term. You
should only use "smooth" silica sand in freshwater aquaria, possibly
augmented with marine aquarium grade coral sand in tanks where high
carbonate hardness and pH are required. The use of play sand and the
like might seem cheap, but unless it says "safe for aquaria" on the
package, it's a fool's economy. A bag of smooth silica sand (sometimes
called smooth silver sand) from a garden centre will be safe for fish,
and costs very little. Here in England it's around £4 for a 25 kg (over
50 lb) bag. Seems pointless to look for anything cheaper. Other types of
sands might contain traces of minerals that will alter water chemistry
(who knows!) and more seriously, might be "sharp" rather than "smooth",
and sharp sand can, will irritate and damage fish (their gills and
bellies especially).>
The only other decor is about 150 lbs of lace rock. The lace rock was
rinsed off but never sterilized. Could this be a problem?
<Unlikely.>
I have Maracide Concentrate from Mardel on hand. It says it's used for
Ich, Velvet and other external parasites. It's made up of Aniline Green
and Tris aminomethane.
<Unless you can positively identify the pathogen as one stated on the
packaging, don't use it. For a start, this "external parasites"
generalisation is misleading. While this medication will probably kill
many types of protozoan parasite, it'll have little/no effect on other
types of external parasite, such as flukes, lice and worms. For these,
you need very specific medications.>
Should I raise the temperature and use this medication or is there
something better you would recommend?
<Review environment, diet, and social behaviour first. Is there anything
going on that might be stressing the fish.>
Also, should I remove the Red Shoulder and treat him separately for
internal parasites or treat the whole tank?
<Likely pointless at this stage.>
All of the fish are very active with voracious appetites so hopefully I
will be able to treat them successfully. Thanks in advance for your
help, Jim
<Cheers, Neale.><<I don't have any better ideas... You have done an
admirable job of summing up possibilities, actions to consider. But do
want to state that there are other "suitable" types of FW substrates
other than silicates; and often Silica sands are too sharp for many
(e.g. Corydoras) use. RMF>>
Re: Fish flashing and having spasms (RMF, any better
ideas?). FW substrate choices 11/3/09
<<I don't have any better ideas... You have done an admirable job of
summing up possibilities, actions to consider. But do want to state that
there are other "suitable" types of FW substrates other than silicates;
and
often Silica sands are too sharp for many (e.g. Corydoras) use. RMF>>
<Bob, you are quite right about sand, which was why I stressed "smooth"
silica sand, which *is* safe with Corydoras, as opposed to "sharp"
silica sand, which isn't. But the point is an important one, and worth
restating.>
I note that Carib Sea do describe their sands as "burrower friendly" or
"soft belly safe" on their web site; wish other manufacturers of
aquarium-grade sands and gravels would do likewise. Cheers, Neale.>
<<I certainly agree! BobF>>
Pangio spp.; basics
I am interested in getting Kuhli Loaches - but am having a hard time
nailing down their needs.
<Nice fish, easy to keep.>
The Petstore says to keep them individually yet online it says to keep
them in groups.
<Definitely schooling fish. Kept singly, they just hide all the time. A
group of five or more is best. For one thing, you might just get to see
them.>
I can not find anything about numbers to keep them in, tank size
requirements etc etc
<Pangio spp. are not fussy about water chemistry, but avoid very hard
water. Aim for around neutral (pH 6.5-7.5), and soft to moderately hard
water 5-15 degrees dH. Don't add salt. Since they're burrowing fish,
soft silica ("silica") sand is best. They're fine with pea gravel too.
Don't use abrasive sand (e.g., Tahitian Moon Sand) or heavy gravel.
Provide lots of hiding places, including things like lumps of bogwood
and hollow ornaments.
Plants, real or plastic, are important for shade. Floating plants are
extremely useful, and inhibit their tendency to jump out of tanks.
Nocturnal (very, very nocturnal) so feed at nighttime with good quality
catfish pellets. Enjoy wet-frozen bloodworms and mosquito larvae too.
Minimum aquarium size around 37 litres/10 US gallons. Generally hardy,
but often starve to death in tanks with too many nocturnal bottom
feeders.
Females to about 6-10 cm in length, depending on the species, males
smaller and thinner. Like all loaches, they're sensitive to medications
that contain copper and formalin, so avoid using these where possible.>
Can you also tell me which fish etc make good tank mates and which fish
should be avoided?
<I'd limit the number of bottom feeders for a start. If the tank is less
than, say, 115 litres/30 US gallons, I'd suggest keeping a group of them
as the only bottom feeders, perhaps with an algae-eater like a
Bristlenose
Catfish but that's about it. Otherwise they mix extremely well with
midwater tetras, barbs and Danios. Might be kept with very peaceful
cichlids and gouramis, e.g., Angelfish or Pearl Gouramis. Very good
companions for Bettas, assuming the tank is big enough. Do well with
shrimps and snails. Hope this helps, Neale.>
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RES; physical injury – 11/03/09
Hi there,
<Hello,>
I have a 2.5 year old yellow bellied slider (sex unknown)
<Males have much longer claws than the females, so sexing is usually
easy.>
who lives in a 75 gallon tank with a gold fish and a sucker fish.
<Glad this is working for you; often doesn't. Do watch his/her
companions for signs of bite marks. Conversely, water quality in turtle
enclosures can be pretty poor, and this won't do your fish any good.>
A few days ago the filter overflowed, so yesterday morning I put him in
a 50 gallon tank while I emptied and moved the other tank so the carpet
can dry properly.
<Eek!>
Yesterday afternoon I noticed that he had developed a white spot on one
side of his head (sorry for the fuzziness of the picture).
<Yes, I see it.>
He used to live in the 50 gallon tank and I got a new style filter when
I moved him to the 75 gallon tank.
<OK.>
It only has crinkly blue plastic in one side to filter the water as it
flows through. The 50 gallon tank housed a Pacu for a few days about a
month ago, the water was not fully emptied but the tank has been empty
with a carbon filter running constantly for the last month.
<Do understand carbon is pretty useless in this type of environment.
While it may house some bacteria, without any fish or animals in the
aquarium, the bacteria that live in the carbon will die back, close to
zero. So I'd strongly suggest putting at least some of the "live" media
from the filter used until it started leaking into whatever new filter
you have here.>
I also had to bring the temperature of the water up from 55F to 72F
before I put the turtle in the water.
<Indeed.>
He still has his basking platform and light while he is in the temporary
tank. There don't appear to be any behavioral changes. Please let me
know if you have any suggestions regarding the cause, diagnosis, and
treatment for my little friends’ spot.
<Good, clean water and a hot, dry basking spot should help. Clean gently
with a cotton ball or some tissue. Dabbing with an antibiotic ointment
(like Neosporin) or an antiseptic (such as iodine ointment) can be used
to clean any small injuries. Leave the turtle out of the water for half
an hour afterwards. Do this once or twice a day, for a few days. Should
clear up just fine. If it doesn't do so within four or five days, or the
injury starts to look bloody and/or inflamed, have a vet take a look.>
I really appreciate your help.
~Emily
<Cheers, Neale.>
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Food for green
terror – 11/03/09
Hi,
This is Pavan again from India. I have green terror juveniles.
<These are pretty fish, but they do become very aggressive when sexually
mature!>
I give them pellets, frozen prawn, dried earth worms.
<Why dried earthworms? Fresh (or live) earthworms are better -- less
chance of causing constipation.>
But I would like to give them good food so that I can watch them growing
well.
<A good quality pellet or flake, such as Hikari Cichlid Gold, should
ensure perfect health. Augment with cooked peas and spinach (for fibre)
and live earthworms and mosquito larvae (for a treat!). No need for
anything else.>
Please tell the information about what type of other food they accept.
in our place we don't have good pet stores.
<These fish are omnivores, and in the wild eat algae, organic detritus,
and small invertebrates. So you have plenty of scope to experiment! The
main thing is to avoid too many foods that are fatty or contain
thiaminase.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_1/thiaminase.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebindex/fdgfdrartneale.htm
Don't take live food from ponds or streams with fish in them. There's a
risk of introducing parasites from the wild into your aquarium. But
mosquito larvae collected from a rainwater butt, for example, is
perfectly safe if there aren't any fish in there.>
If there is something that I can prepare at home, provide it.
<Many options here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_2/food.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_1/cav1i3/Progressive_Recipe/Progressive
_Recipe.htm
>
Thank you.
<You are welcome. Cheers, Neale.>
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