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FAQs on Iodine Use, Supplements, Troubleshooting/Fixing
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Iodine level question Bob, I have a 58 gal tank with about 120
lbs of live rock, several colonies of mushrooms, and I have just added a
green button polyp rock and a leather coral. The setup is about 9 months
old. Fluorescent lights (2 actinic/2 trichromatic) for 8 hours/5 hours
per day. Last test readings were PH 8.2, Alkalinity 4.3 <assume
meq/l> , Nitrite 0, Nitrate 9, Calcium 430, Iodine/Iodide 0. About
a month ago, I started testing for Iodine/Iodide, and the level was
zero. I started to add Seachem's Iodide supplement, a little at a time
because I read that the level should be raised gradually. <Yes,
correct> I started with .5 ml daily, and worked up to now 2 ml per
day for the last several days added in my RO makeup water. I still am
not getting a reading with the test kit, (but the reference sample
included in the kit is right on the money). So it would seem that all
the iodide I am adding to the tank is going somewhere faster than I am
adding it. <Hmm, it's possible... but would test the stock solution
and test kit together by making a bit of water and it together and
testing immediately...> I have read in your faq on iodine that you
suggest 10 drops weekly, <Depends on strength/concentration of stock
solution, type of gear, livestock... of course> which is far less
than I am putting in daily. I have two Skilter 250's on the tank,
with one bag of Seachem Purigen in one of them. Could the Purigen be
removing the Iodide from the system? <Ah! Yes, this is possible>
How much do you think I could be safely adding without it becoming toxic
in the initial rush? <Let's send this off to the fine folks at
SeaChem (I'll cc them). I would remove the chemical filtrant, try on the
low dosage side (2 ml. per twenty gallons) again till you get a reading
that and the next day.> Thanks for your insight on this, and for all
the information you have provided on the WWM web site. Bob Dundon
<Thank you my friend, for contributing to same. Bob Fenner> Re:
Iodine level question >I have read in your faq on iodine that you
suggest 10 drops weekly, ><Depends on strength/concentration of stock
solution, type of gear, livestock... of course> >which is far less
than I am putting in daily. >I have two Skilter 250's on the tank,
with one bag of Seachem Purigen in one >of them. Could the Purigen be
removing the Iodide from the system? ><Ah! Yes, this is possible>
No, Purigen won't remove the iodide any more than it would remove the
chloride in the water. However, iodide is utilized rapidly but it is
also depleted rapidly chemically via oxidation to iodate. Iodate can in
turn oxidize iodide to iodine which will be slowly depleted by gassing
off. Iodine in turn can be reduced to iodide. We stabilize Reef Iodide
with reducing agents to keep it stable in the bottle and to extend its
effectiveness in the water after use. One could extend its useful life
somewhat by using a water conditioner such as Prime that contains
reducing agents (normally used to reduce chlorine to chloride, in this
case to reduce iodine to iodide and prevent iodate formation). However
it's hard to say how much would be needed and for how long the life
would be extended as this depends on numerous variables in the tank.
>How much do you think I could be safely adding without it becoming
toxic in the initial rush? ><Let's send this off to the fine
folks at SeaChem (I'll cc them). I would remove the chemical filtrant,
try on the low dosage side (2 ml. per twenty gallons) again till you get
a reading that and the next day.> Yes, this makes sense and is what
we would recommend as well. You don't need to remove the Purigen
however. I'd also recommend testing say, 10 or 20 minutes after dosing
so you can prove to yourself that it is there right away, but then is
being slowly used and depleted throughout the day. BTW, what is the
url of your website that the other gentleman referred to?
<WetWebMedia.com, thank you for this input. Bob Fenner> Seachem
Laboratories, Inc. www.seachem.com 888-SEACHEM Overdosed with
Potassium Iodide Bob, Yesterday I mistakenly over dosed my 65g
system with 1/2 teaspoon of pure potassium iodide. <Yeeikes!>
After I realized it, I immediately did a 50% water change, however the
system still smell like medicine cabinet, and all fishes and corals are
looking sick. Is there a quick way to neutralized the potassium iodide
other than doing the water changes? <Yes. Please immediately add
about half a pound of activated carbon in your filter flow path...
and/or a unit of PolyFilter...> As always appreciates your quick
response and help. Thanks Wayne <Be ready to move, remove
organisms if/when they die. Bob Fenner> - Removing Excess
Iodine - Dear Folks, <Good morning, JasonC here...> I
believe I have overdosed my tank with an iodine additive. I had a brand
new test for it, which kept telling me I had none at all. Finally
realized the test was wrong and the levels were sky-high. <Oh my...> I
have lost several clams and a zoanthid colony. My question is
this: Other than water changes and carbon is there any way to remove
the offending element quickly? <If you have an efficient protein skimmer
the iodine will get blown out fairly quickly - within a week.> I have
been doing water changes and carbon replacements every other day for
over a month and the levels still seem to be high (got another test,
duh). I thought iodine was supposed to deplete quickly, but it's been
six weeks! <Then something is wrong with your test kit(s). Iodine is
reactive enough that the carbon and water changes should have eliminated
it quite a while ago.> Any advice you could give me, other than quit
dosing the tank, would be appreciated. <Well... stopping the dosing will
help too, but do check with the folks where you obtained your test kit -
something seems wrong with either the kit or your methodology.>
Thanks! Pam <Cheers, J -- > Iodine Deficiency? Hi
all! <Hi there! Scott F. with you today!> I have a question about
iodine and shrimp! I have a pair of scarlet cleaners and at their last
molt they seemed to have some trouble and one of them now has crooked
antennae and weak joints (they seem to bend just because of his weight,
it's not normal at all) This is the first time their molts have gone
bad and I just recently added new lights so of course the algae is
growing more. So could the growth of the additional algae have soaked
up all the iodine? That's all I could come up with for the problem
because I've had both these shrimp for several months and they've never
had problems. <Interesting theory; unusual, but I suppose, possible.>
I add calcium twice a week so I don't think they're calcium deficient.
<My easy solution to the possible iodine problem is to test for it. If
you do find it a bit low, you can address the problem with regular water
changes (which will replenish this and other beneficial compounds), or,
if absolutely necessary- with iodine supplements. Remember to test for
anything that you intend to add to the tank, okay?> And one other
thing, some of the house plants I keep are showing necrosis of the leaf
tips because of the fluoride in the city water, could too much fluoride
be causing the shrimps' problems too? <I really don't know- I suppose
that is possible, but I'm leaning towards your iodine theory> My LFS
suggested buying "Reef Evolutions" Potassium Iodide concentrate and
adding it regularly. will this do the trick if Iodine is the problem?
<It will, but again- I implore you to test before adding any kind of
supplement to the system> So many questions! At the very least I can
say I've never learned so much from a hobby as I've learned from keeping
saltwater. <It keeps you on your toes, huh?> Crazy, confusing,
amazing, beautiful stuff. <Great description of the hobby, huh?
Highly accurate, though!> Thanks for your help, I really appreciate
all the time you guys put into helping out the little people (and their
little pets) Have a fantastic week! Rachael <Well, I'd like to thank
the Academy, my agent, the manufacturers of Tropic Marin...Seriously- we
are happy to be here for you. I'm a hobbyist, just like you. We learn as
much as you do every day! Good luck! Regards, Scott F> Where
does all the iodine go Hi, <Hi Nate, Adam here today.> In
browsing your FAQs, I came across a number of statements that iodine
disappears from an aquarium very rapidly, maybe lasting only 6
hours. Where does the iodine go--is it absorbed by critters,
precipitate out of solution, "broken down" by the skimmer. <Hmmm..
"broken down" may be a poor choice of terminology. Iodine changes form,
binds to organics and is absorbed by organisms (particularly
algaes). That which is bound to organics may then be exported by the
skimmer. Also, depending on the chemical form it takes or if it binds
to organics, the iodine may be present but not detectible by a standard
test kit.> Even assuming daily doses, how can the denizens of a home
reef system get enough iodine if it is only present 1/4 of the time (6
hours out of every 24)? <Well.... It really isn't gone, and even if
it was, most critters get quite a bit (enough to meet their needs in
most cases) through food.> Also, how does iodine in the ocean stay in
a useable state? <Again, different forms can be taken up by different
organisms and the iodine then enters the food chain. Also, the ocean
represents such a vast pool of any of the elements it contains, the
concentrations rarely change.> One last question--is it worth it to
dose strontium or magnesium--or should I simply rely on regular water
changes? <Water changes probably will meet these needs in most
cases. I would suggest testing for either before adding. The range of
opinions on Sr ranges from poison to mandatory. I no longer add it, and
don't think it has made a difference.> Thanks Nate Terry <No
worries! Adam> Iodine causing Xenia
problems? Hey Crew, I had a problem with my red soft corals
losing some of their color. My LFS sold me Lugol's iodine and I starting
with very small amounts increasing to one drop a day four times a week
(90 gallon tank). But now my once thriving pulsing Xenia are not looking
so good. << Really? They usually do better with Iodine. I would do a
water change and stop adding Lugol's for a while. >> It looks like some
one let the air out of them. I stopped using the Lugol's and they are
starting to look a little better. Do you think this was the problem. I
thought Xenia love Iodine? << Yes, but maybe you have over-dosed the
tank. It is toxic at high enough levels. >> or should I be using a
different produce maybe one that has Iodide? << No, don't try more
chemicals. >> Also I had a problem with my skimmer. After reading
your site for two hours I stumbled onto someone with a similar problem
as myself. I have an over flow box with a few return jets up high for
surface current. After bringing those down a bit my skimmer seems to be
working more efficiently. Do you think this is the right move? << Hey if
it is working better, then I guess so. >> Every time I see someone
else's tank they seem to have a lot of surface current. Thanks again
for all the free advise. If you ever decided to charge for this site. I
would be the first on line. << Blundell >>
Iodine
depletion in my system 12/22/05 Thanks in advance. I have a
12 gal setup w/a fuge in the smallish sump. I'm running the lighting for
the fuge opposite of the display lighting. I have a baseball sized clump
of Gracilaria for the fuge. I have a great growth of coralline in the
display which is encrusting everything. My question is does red macro
use a lot of iodine? <No> In this 12gal tank there is only actually 7
gal of SW after LR and LS displacement. I do a 21 oz wc daily except on
sat and sun. The question stems from getting loads of different advice
and when told I did the daily wc's the majority opinion was not to
supplement w/ the Kent's iodine. I had been before and my skunk molted
on several occasions w/out a hitch. I introduced a peppermint and
stopped the supplementing of iodine. 6 days later when he attempted to
molt, he was DOA. I've read that w/the Kent's or SeaChem's potassium
iodine is so diluted that it shouldn't hurt the system. Can someone give
me a definitive answer. <I believe it is better to dose than not. I use
the Sea Chem product myself on a weekly basis. The iodide/iodine
definitely helps with the molting process. I'll paste a email I received
from SeaChem a while back regarding this.> "Our Iodide is stabilized
as Iodide and therefore it is less harmful than Lugol's. However we do
still recommend to use a test kit when dosing a Iodide supplement (any
supplement to be exact). If a person does not want to test iodide they
can still get some through the use of Reef Plus twice a week. This
dosage is minimal and even with few to no iodide absorbing animals the
iodide level stays low." Best Regards, Seachem Tech
Support~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks, Mike. <You're
welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
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