FAQs about Soft Corals of the Family
Nephtheidae Foods/Feeding/Nutrition
Related Articles: Soft Corals of the Family Nephtheidae,
The Soft Corals of the genus
Dendronephthya, Soft Corals, Order Alcyonacea
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Soft Coral Propagation,
Alcyoniids, Dendronephthya, Paralcyoniids, Nidaliids, Xeniids, Soft Corals/Order
Alcyonacea
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Umbellulifera sp. Fdg.
5/22/14
Hi Bob, I am hoping you can help me, I brought an Umbellulifera sp (orange
tree coral) not that long back, I understand the needs and have
an nps tank set up, I am curious as to what they feed on? Is it
phytoplankton and zooplankton? Would the orange tree coral eat lobster
eggs or is it just phyto and zooplankton?
<Umm; not lobster eggs... on LiveAquaria: "...include live, baby brine
shrimp, micro-plankton, and other small foods designed for filter
feeding invertebrates, in order to survive in the reef aquarium."
Have never known anyone to keep this family of soft corals alive for any
period of time. Bob Fenner>
Re: Umbellulifera sp
That's what I have read too, that the survival rate is poor. I thought I
would try an attempt the Dendro
as I have sun corals which spawn a lot and have popped up all over the
place. Would they eat copepods and rotifers in the system as well?
<Only if these were spawn... small copepodites; perhaps>
As there is loads of life in this system.
<Good. A vigorous refugium of size, with a deep DSB... are helpful.
BobF>
Re: Umbellulifera sp 5/22/14
Sorry to ask Bob what is the difference between this coral and the
Dendro?
<Ahh, I do apologize re the mis-ID re the family here... Overnight I
kept (I used to dream about women and money...) going over a citation
I'd seen on the Net, ascribing the genus to the family "Nephropidae"...
Uh, yeah... these are lobsters... the genus IS along w/ Dendronephthya
of the family
Nephtheidae... though none other than wiki (.com) also misplaces it...
in the Alcyoniidae). At any/all lengths, these Alcyonaceans (soft
corals) DO have similar nutritional requirements>
I fed some brine shrimp it has accepted it, the set up is just for nps,
the system has one Jawfish as it got rejected by the others in the main
DT.
I read somewhere that the orange tree coral is easier to keep than the
carnation coral, is this true?
<As far as I've read as well; yes. I have never kept/husbanded either
myself. Thank you for your patience. BobF>
Re: Dendronephthya coral... Done! A prank (?) re feeding et
al.? 9/14/13
Hi bob,
<... names are capital nouns Lorna>
just wanting some advice I have a tree coral or Dendronephthya and I
bought it a month ago
It is in a cave hanging upside down I feed it phyto
<... of what size... Is it your understanding that any random Nephtheid
will eat any phytoplankton? Not so>
regularly, when I bought it it was struggling and had dissolved at The
base it is still dissolved and is expanding which it wasn't in the shop,
how long will it take to thicken at the base.
All parameters are fine apart from phosphate which is 0.25 and nitrate
is 5.
<.... Heeeeee! Are you joking? Read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nephfdgfaqs.htm
and (all) the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Sclero/dendro growth 9/17/11
Dear crew,
Recently, after about six months in the tank, my first piece of live
rock has had several colonies of either Sclero or Dendronephthya pop
up. I have not yet identified which as each colony is only 10 polyps at
most and I cannot closely inspect them (though I can visually see the
sclerites that line up with the "stalk"). They are in a
corner of the tank with a fair amount of flow so I assume a bit of food
comes their way. Should I target feed them with Cyclops eez or just
leave them be?
<Mmm, might be worth trying other foods, but whatever you're
doing/not doing... I would continue>
As is I feed the fish omega enriched pellets and the Fungiid krill and
Mysis.
<Likely bits of this, endogenous sources...>
Would target feeding increase their growth rate, or do they grow slowly
regardless so long as their basic needs are met?
<Mostly the latter>
I myself am surprised that they have manifested but will be more than
happy to give these little guys a shot.
Thankful as always, Sam
<Welcome! Bob Fenner>
Oysters in the Sump (Not the answer here) --
11/29/10
I thank you for a wonderful website and excellent moderators.
<<A collective effort'¦we are pleased to
serve>>
I tried but was unable to find any info on stocking oysters in the
sump.
<<Not practical, really -- extremely difficult to sustain for any
length of time>>
I currently run a 50 gallon tank with a 15 gallon sump. It is stocked
with Carnation Corals
<<Mmm -- about as difficult as the Oysters. The challenge here
with both types of animal is the feeding of them -
both are very likely to starve to death. Please do read here
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/dendrofaqs.htm) and here
(http://www.thesea.org/carnation-coral/ )>>
I picked up under the docks in Kochi, Japan. I have been feeding them
with PhytoPlan and ZoPlan,
<<Here's a link to a 'recipe' for azooxanthellate
corals
(http://stonyreef.com/blog/2008/feeding-azooxanthellate-corals/). Even
with an accepted supply of food(s), providing this in sufficient
quantity without overwhelming your system is a challenge. It can be
done, but takes a special dedication and attention to system setup and
husbandry>>
but they have shrunk to about half their size in 6 months.
<<Indeed'¦starving>>
I have read that feeding them oyster eggs would be good, but frozen
oyster eggs are not available locally.
<<Can be found on the Net
(http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=21981)
>>
There's an oyster farm about 10 miles from my house so I picked up
a few and put them in my sump.
<<Hmm'¦perhaps you could also check to see if the farm
harvests/will provide eggs for purchase>>
Water temp is 24.5 C, pH 8.0, dKH 11 and Ca 410. Filtration is a
trickle filter with a coil denitrator, Beckett skimmer and ozone.
<<Do search the net re Azooxanthellate systems for tips on
configuration/lighting/water flow/husbandry needs et al. One in
particular that might be worth researching is the 500L
non-photosynthetic reef by Dutch aquarist Pieter van
Suijleko>>
Would 5 or 6 oysters spawning overload my biofilter?
<<I think the bigger question is 'will they
spawn?''¦and if they should, 'would this be
sufficient' to meet the nutritional requirements of the Carnation
Corals? In both instances, I think the answer is 'not likely at
all.' Such a 'self-sustained' non-photosynthetic system as
you describe is not practical in my opinion, especially one as small as
yours. It would take a much larger number of Oysters kept in peak
condition and spawning on a continual basis -- something at least, if
not more so, challenging than the Carnation Corals. Better to expend
your time and energy on researching alternate feeding methods (e.g. --
producing your own 'live' Phytoplankton and Rotifers for a
'continuous-drip' feeding system, etc.) for the carnation
Corals, as well as system and husbandry requirements'¦and to
make sure you have the time, resources, and dedication to the keeping
of these beautiful but 'extremely challenging'
organisms>>
Regards,
James Miller - Okayama, Japan
<<And to you in kind... Eric Russell - Columbia, South
Carolina>>
Chili Coral... non-photosynthetic... fdg.
04/15/2008 Hello, How is everyone today. <<Hi there, Andrew
here, yes, all well thank you>> I recently purchased a Chili
Coral and thought that I had done my homework in regards to this coral.
<<Ahhhhh.....>> I checked two different web sites that said
that the Chili Coral hosted its own symbiotic algae. Also the same info
I received from my LFS. After purchasing and putting it into my reef
tank I checked another web site that said it did not and must be fed
daily. Normally this would not be a problem but with summer coming I
will be off on long weekends and vacations and wanted to stay away from
corals that needed daily feeding. <<Correct, this is not a
photosynthetic coral>> I do have someone to feed my coral a
couple times a week when on vacation but did not plan on daily
feedings. My question to you is do Chili Corals host their own algae or
do they need to be fed daily. <<Fed daily is fine, some feed
every other day on phyto or zooplankton, baby brine is a good one if
readily accepted>> Once again, thanks in advance, Shawn
<<Thanks for the questions Shawn, hope this helps. A
Nixon>>
Re: Red Chili Coral Behavior Question, and hlth. --
10/04/07 Hello again, Thought I would write back with some feedback
to you regarding a Chili Coral specimen. <Okay> Good news all
around. The specimen is doing awesome and back to its normal daily
routine and behavior. It appears to even be growing a small bit.
Through some replacement and addition of higher and random flow along
with reduction in the amount of skimming things seem to be back on
track. It was not until mid September (almost 2 full months of
"dormancy" did the coral come back out in all its splendor. I
seem to be lucky in that my LFS got a new employee in who provided me
with some possible tactics. I dramatically reduced my skimmer operation
time from essentially 23hrs per day gradually down to about 12 hours a
day. The skimmer is off during night time feeding period for this coral
which I increased in frequency based on your recommendations. I now
feed every day except for Sunday with phyto and zoo plankton. My water
parameters have remained all normal. The only side effect is now a bit
more hair algae growth. Thought you would like some feedback that is
good news and if anyone else has similar problems this might be of use.
Thanks again and I continue to have a pleasant time with my tank and
its prospering inhabitants Sincerely, Craig Martell <Thank you for
sharing. Bob Fenner>
Question for Anthony re Scleronephthya cult./fdg.
3/8/07 Hello Anthony <Mmm, no longer w/ us... you might try him
at Readingtrees.com or Marine Depot> I
was thinking about your interesting description of the spawning of the
nonphotosynthetic soft coral in your greenhouse. <I
visited Antoine a few times when he was in the Xeniid biz>
Were you "pushing" iodine at
that point? Certainly it would be interesting to know
this; also I presume you were skimming aggressively as
always, but what were you feeding the tank? <I do think the answer
to both here is/was yes> Any new
information on these intriguing organisms you have come across,
especially from Peter Wilkins or others with some success? Charles
Matthews M.D. <As stated... try the above addresses. Bob
Fenner>