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FAQs about Powerhead Rationale/Use with Marine
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Sump Flow Rates and Powerhead Opinions - 2/20/07
Hello.
<Hey Pam, JustinN with you today.>
I've been combing your Q&A's looking for the answer, but haven't found it yet.
<Ok>
I'm getting conflicting advice from my LFS who seems very knowledgeable, and
also from one of the most highly regarded forums...also seemingly very
knowledgeable reef-keepers.
<Often is just a difference of methodology, not necessarily one whom is right or
wrong.>
I'm buying a my first tank and have been doing a ton of research (books, online
forums, LFS)
<Excellent, this is the starting point of a successful hobbyist for certain.>
I'm buying a 54g corner tank, with a Oceanic Micro Sump (approximately
15g...only thing that will fit in the stand).
<Sounds good>
My LFS recommends a Eheim 1260 return pump in the sump (flow is 635gph which is
about 11 times my display size) plus 1 power-head in the display, and the
reefers on the forum, recommend the smaller Eheim 1250 (317gph which is about
5.8 x my display size) with 2 power-heads in the display. They're saying the
635gph through a 15g sump will be too much flow through the small sump, causing
lots of noise and micro-bubbles.
<I would agree with the fellow reefers here, my friend. You could likely come up
with a baffling system to negate a deal of the micro bubbles, but chances are
you will always be competing with them from that flow, to some extent. Also,
there's the factor of having to match your overflow rate to the sump, with the
return pump -- at higher flow rates, can be harder to do.>
I know from reading lots of your Q&A's, that you are anti power-heads in the
display, but do you think the 635gph will be too much going through a 15g
sump? If it's not too much, will that be adequate flow without any power-head
in the display at all? Your points regarding powerheads definitely make
sense.
Thanks so much!
Pam
<I would not say that we are anti-powerheads here, on the opposite side of the
coin, I think that we are for the right solution for each individual tank, to
which there is no steadfast rule, or specifics. Powerheads are very effective
for their purpose, and can be utilized without great issue here. If you wanted
to eliminate the powerheads in your tank though, do consider having another
overflow and return plumbed into the tank. You could create a 'closed loop'
here, utilizing a pump such as the Eheim 1260 and bypassing any excess
filtration methods, just draining water from the tank into the pump system, and
returning its flow to the tank itself. Both methods will serve your purpose just
fine, my friend. Keep up the research, and welcome to the hobby! -JustinN>
Additional Powerheads needed? 8/24/06
Hello,
<Hi there>
My office has a 90 gallon tank with overflow. The pump used in this system is a
Mag Drive 9.5. We have a fish tank cleaner come in once a month to take care of
the tank. He seems pretty knowledgeable about everything and said we need to get
(2) power head pumps such as the Maxi jet 1200 or Penguin 1140 so that there is
more water flow and oxygen at the bottom of the tank.
<Wouldn't hurt>
My question is do you know why they are making these built in internal systems
when you end up needing additional pumps?
<Mmm, because they sell? Because it's all "they" know how to make? To allow for
"variations on themes?"...>
Are these additional power heads really necessary???
<Mmm, would help... with circulation, aeration, lessen maintenance...>
We wanted to avoid the look of pumps hanging off the back.
<Likely won't notice in time>
Also I heard something about using magnets instead of suction cups for mounting
purposes. Thanks for your help!
Thanks,
Nancy
<Have your service tech. bring in some samples to show you... Bob Fenner>
Adding Powerheads, Tank Marketing 8/28/06
I have a question regarding our 90 gallon tank at work. Internal
We were told that the tank needs more water flow and added oxygen at the bottom
of the tank so we'd need to purchase 2 power heads. <ok>
We currently have a mag drive 9.5 with a protein skimmer and overflow. I guess
my question is why do they make and sell these entire set ups that hide all the
pumps internally if you end up needing to put additional pumps in their
anyways? We just didn't want any pumps showing in the tank.
<In a word marketing. They either need to design the system with a bigger pump
or sell you extra powerheads, both increase cost, limit buyers. Plus, these
system are often based on fresh water designs with an added protein skimmer,
which needs less water movement than salt water. If you are feeling handy try
looking into a closed loop system, adds water movement without internal pumps.>
Thanks for your help!
Nancy
<Anytime>
<Chris>
Flow Patterns...
Hi Scott
<Hi there...>
How r u?
<Doin' great!>
I mentioned to you the other day that I have two 1100l p/h powerheads in my 350l
tank.
<yep...!>
I have them opposing each other causing a good flow.
<A good technique!>
I was thinking of adding another powerhead to the back of the tank just to blow
across the floor so that unwanted debris do not get a chance to settle.
<I like the idea!>
Do you think this is necessary, I do perform my water changes weekly where I
perform siphoning of the surface gravel as well?
<Not "necessary", but nice idea. And, flow is no
substitute for water changes, IMO>
Thanks, Ziad
<You're quite welcome! Regards, Scott F>
Skimmers and powerheads - 2/24/04
Ahhh, one final letter before I call it a day, got to get up early tomorrow
and do it all again! <Seems like a bad dream sometimes. Or even better....Groundhog
Day the movie>
First, thank you for the "A+" . It still feels good to be praised by
my "teachers"!! <We are all looking for recognition of our
efforts>
Secondly, I DO still dislike the appearance of powerheads. <As do I, but
sometimes a simple solution for interim purposes is the best way. Can always change
it later> This is why I said I would have to do a bit of re-arranging. If I
were to buy a wavemaker, I would like to hide the powerheads behind the rock.
<That is what we do at the Aquarium> But this presents a problem with
maintenance, no? <Make it so that you can get to them but you still have them
hidden from view> Ahhhh, maybe I better check out the Carlson's surge device
you talked about. <Sweet. We love 'em at the 'Quarium!> I'll go
to the link you kindly pasted for me, (thank you). <No problemo> I'll
certainly let you know if Jason Kim gets back to me. <Please
do> Can't wait to hear what he says. Hey ya know, I was looking at
my skimmer and realized it didn't have the large rubber ring that wraps around
the waste receptacle what's that thing called?), <O-ring or gasket but more
like an O-ring> maybe this is why it's not skimming? <Not likely but the
O-ring does help with placement of the collection cup. I keep my collection cup
at a point where the bottom of the cup opening is about a 1/4 inch under the top
bubble layer> Hmmm, I'll have to make a note of that for Kim. <Yes.
Important to note for troubleshooting purposes>
Well, I'm yawning now, got to go off to slumber land. <A wonderful place to
visit sometimes. Others times well.........not so nice>
Good night Paul, <Good evening ~Pauly>
Pam
How can I increase water flow?
Hello, << Hi there. >>
I called Tunze and the only powerhead that goes on top is their classic and
this is an older pump that they don't recommend any longer. I currently have
two sea swirls connected to the two pumps coming from my sump. Do you have any
other recommendations for additional flow? << Sure I like adding BioWheel
filters for one option, or even just more powerheads. >> I've heard good things
about the Tunze stream but they are too large for my 55 gallon aquarium. My
main concern is increasing the current in the tank without having a large volume
of water circulating between the sump and the aquarium and having the powerheads
in the tank increasing the temperature. << Well without powerheads in the tank,
you are somewhat limited. But as for the water in the sump concern, you could
always add a surge tank above your tank. That would be way cool. Or add a hang
on the back type of refugia, but that still adds another powerhead. Although
extra powerheads give off more heat, I almost always think adding more of them
is a good idea. >>
Thanks in advance,
-Brent
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