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Re: Sick Betta 9/28/08
Hi again. After a few days, I realized that my Betta is actually having
constipation. I've fed him peas, but he is still not clearing out his waste and
his stomach just keeps getting larger. Why is this so? What do I do then?
<It is possible that it is not constipation and could be an infection or tumor.
If the symptoms persist I would try a treatment with Maracyn.>
<Chris>
Oh yeah. I forgot to tell you that my red Betta's stomach is very bloated and
kinda yellow, very distinct compared to his red body.
<I would try a round of antibiotic along with the peas, this may be more than
constipation.>
It has gone to a point that his scales at his stomach is kinda raised. I've
seriously tried everything: feed peas, change water, add salt,............What
do I do now? What does the yellow stomach mean? Why does he not excrete waste
even though he is eating peas???
<He could be just when you are not around, or something could be blocking his
ability.>
Is it another kind of infection coming on??? Thank you. Please save him.
His tank is not filtered but I just changed his water yesterday.
<This is a big clue, like all fish Bettas need a heated and filtered tank,
otherwise they suffer and are disease prone.>
It is not aerated either cause the filters are too strong.
<I strongly encourage you to get a air drive sponge filter and heater for this
fish. Bettas do not belong in bowls any more than any other fish. Also Epson
salts (magnesium sulfate) may help here as well.>
<Chris>
My female Betta has white stringy
stuff hanging from her body right by her fins. What's happening?
9/28/08
<Sounds like Finrot, possibly also Fungus. Treat with Maracyn or some other
reliable product (as opposed to make-believe medications like Melafix or salt).
Both these diseases are caused by the environment, so let's recap: Bettas need
an aquarium (not a bowl) containing at least 5 gallons of water, a filter, and a
heater. If you aren't using those things, for example keeping your Betta in a
jar under a table lamp, then that's your problem. The reason I mention this is
that we seem to get huge numbers of messages from people who -- because they
haven't done any research -- assume Bettas can be kept in the same way as pet
rocks. They can't. If this isn't the issue, and you're sensibly keeping the
Betta in a nice filtered, heated aquarium, then do consider the other usual
source of Finrot and Fungus, damage from other livestock. Some fish will nip at
Bettas, most notably various tetras and barbs. When the wounds become infected
(in part because water quality isn't particularly good, it has to be said) then
the result is Finrot and Fungus. Again, treat with Maracyn or some equivalent
product capable of treating both diseases simultaneously. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: What's happening? Betta
9/29/08
I do have an at least 5 gallons, but it isn't heated. I disappeared today. I
kind of scared my because I thought she was giving birth or something! But now
that there is a logical explanation it all makes sense. Thanks for the advice,
-Brogan
<Well, do ensure the temperature in the tank is around 26-28 C using a heater of
some sort. Choose the right size of your tank (admittedly only a limited range
are suitable for tanks a mere 5 gallons). Do also remember Bettas are labyrinth
fish, which means they breathe air, and the air above the tank needs to be warm
and humid otherwise they get respiratory infections. The classic way to do this
is to ensure the tank has a lid. That'll not only keep the air humid, but also
prevent the fish jumping out. Do also check the ammonia and/or nitrite
concentration to ensure the water quality is good and the filter is working
properly. Cheers, Neale.>
Fin Rot, Betta
9/28/08 Hello!
My Name is Amanda and I have a question about my crimson Betta, Mojo. <Hi
Amanda,> I received Mojo as a gift ( I requested him :D) I love Bettas and
after watching my room mate (Im in college) take care of her Betta I really
wanted one... Well I have had Mojo for about a month and being a Wal-Mart rescue
(he was in less than an inch of water and that was filthy!!!! I was so appalled
and upset by this my boyfriend bought him and a one gallon tank that is filtered
and has a small air pump) <One gallon is still too little for these fish; 5
gallons is, in all honesty, the minimum for easy care. Do understand these are
fish, despite being marketed as if they were Star Wars figures you can just play
with and then ignore. They have precisely the same requirements as any other
tropical fish: swimming space, heat, filtration.> I have been worried about
him being sick. After adjusting him to his new tank he has been a very active
and happy fish. I added a soft plant to his tank and blue gravel. <Ugh, blue
gravel... fish don't like bright colours underneath them... very stressful. Like
putting you in a room with loud noises or bad smells.> The tank is also
covered with a light and I clean it about once a week. He eats aqua culture
Betta pellets ad loves to eat i feed him 1-3 pellets up to three times a day.
The thing I am worried about is he is a very solid red and today I noticed a
black line on the end of his fin that was NOT there before. <Incipient
Finrot, almost certainly. Do review the key needs, in particular for water
quality and temperature, the two things newbie Betta keepers invariably ignore.
If you detect ammonia or nitrite in the water, that's one MAJOR problem that
will eventually kill the fish. Secondly, the temperature needs to be between
25-28 C, all day along. Unless you happen to live in the tropics, then your room
temperature -- even with central heating -- won't be that warm. Anyone in Europe
or the US will need to use a heater of some sort.> I just want to know if
this could be a sign of fin rot or could he just be changing color?? <Yes to
the first, no to the second.> I wouldn't be worried but being a rescue he was
in bad shape (nearly dead) when we got him and? his top fin is bent over but not
black or receding/tearing. I may just be an overprotective first time owner but
I would appreciate any advice you could give me so Mojo can have a long and
happy life now!! <Do understand that being "over-protective" is a good thing
with animals: but that means researching the needs of a species rather than
giving it a name or buying it toys. Fish couldn't care less about that stuff.
What makes them happy -- and eventually tame -- is consistently providing them
with optimal environmental conditions. Do see in particular here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/betta_splendens.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/bettasysart.htm > Thanks Amanda
<Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Fin Rot – 09/28/08
Thank you so much for your swift help!!
<Happy to help!>
I must admit I was completely ignorant about him needing a bigger tank and saw
some great 5 to 10 gallon desk tanks on you site and was wondering if i should
get the ten gallon or would he be happier in the smaller five?
<With fishkeeping, the bigger the tank, the easier it becomes. A bigger tank is
more stable, and if you skip a water change or two, it's less of an issue. A
bigger tank will enjoy more stable water quality and chemistry, meaning that any
fish you keep will be less likely to get sick. So unless there's a huge
difference in cost, go with the 10 gallon tank. You'll be so glad you did. I
have several tanks this size, and properly stocked with plants, Nerite snails
and cherry shrimps, you can turn these tanks into fantastically entertaining
environments for your fish and yourself. All this said, a 5 gallon system is
absolutely fine, and far better than most people give their Bettas (with the
result that most people don't keep their Bettas alive very long...) It's just a
10 gallon system is easier to run, and you'll find it easier to find a filter
and a heater that fits. Adding lights will be easier too, so you can add some
hardy plants (Anubias, Java fern, Cryptocoryne wendtii) and expect them to
thrive. The result will be a really lovely tank.>
Also How long should I let the larger tank cycle??
<Since you have the fish already, this question is a bit academic. Put the Betta
in the tank, and use your nitrite test kit to keep tabs on the cycling process.
In theory it will cycle in as little as 4 weeks though often up to six. If you
transfer media the filter from your present tank (if you have one) into the
bigger tank, cycling will be (effectively) instant because the bacteria will be
already in the filter.>
I am taking him in to the local pet store that specialize in tropical fish to
get the medicine and the water tested! I really do appreciate your help and feel
terrible for my poor little Mojo! and the gravel in his tank is a Dark blue
almost gray, the reason I added that earlier is i had to wash it over 15 times
till no more color came off and didn't know if that would have caused his tail
to change!!
<No, this isn't likely to be a factor. Indeed, most freshwater fish would prefer
silty, opaque conditions given the chance!>
Thank you for your help and Mojo thanks you too!!
Amanda
<Good luck, Neale.>
crown fighting fish... beh./hlth.
9/26/08
I have a crown fighting fish and have had it for about a year now, recently it
has been doing unusual things like floating to the top on its side like its
playing dead but its actually still alive & eating. I never see him at the
bottom of the fish bowl anymore, and if he tries to swim down , its with much
effort, its like there's a magnet at the top of the water and he's stuck to it,
on it's side...why?
<Can't answer this without information on the environment. Bettas never do well
in "bowls" without heaters or filters, so my first questions are how warm is
this bowl and what is the ammonia or nitrite concentration of the water. Bettas
are fish, and like any tropical fish need warm, filtered water to stay healthy.
Sticking them in bowl at room temperature is sure way to send one to a speedy
death. It's a shame people get persuaded by retailers that they can be kept in
bowls; they can't. Let's show respect to the Betta, and ensure that these fish
are always kept in aquaria at least 5 gallons in size and with a filter and a
heater keeping the water at not less than 25C/77F. If you aren't doing these
things, then that's what's caused your fish to get ill. Cheers, Neale.>
Sick Betta 9/24/08
Hey. This is regarding a very worried Betta owner. 1 day ago, my Betta fish
changed from a bright red colour and feisty personality to just a pale sickly
old fish and lethargic thing. I'm worried about his condition esp. since its the
first time he's really ill. He has lost his appetite and just wants to rest the
whole day. His stomach is significantly swollen and he has lost his colour.
Also, his scales are mildly raised on his back, otherwise, his other scales are
fine and there is no pineconing. What should I do?...Please answer asap k? Cos I
want to start treatment asap. Yup. I really appreciate any help I can get. Thank
you.
<The vast majority of Betta problems are environmental in nature. SO what type
of tank is he kept in? Is it heated, filtered? How old is he? What are your
water parameters and when was your last water change? I think you will find most
of your questions answered here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwlvstkind2.htm , in the Betta section.
Please give it a read. Also next time please spell and grammar check your
queries as posted here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/question_page.htm , since we have
to do this before posting.>
<Thanks>
<Chris>
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Sick Betta Fish 9/19/08
To: The Crew
<Hello,>
I think that my female Betta fish is sick, and if she is, I'm confused
as to what is wrong with her. Let me start from the beginning... A
coworker of mine owned this Betta fish for about a year and also kept
her n the office. The coworker left her job and also left her fish!
Rude, but true! Since I had become quite attached to Lucy over this
time, I decided to bring her home with me. This was over the Fourth of
July weekend, 2008. She had been living in a bowl that wasn't cleaned
very often, and in an office that was pretty cold most of the time. I
set up a 10 gallon tank for her and introduced her to her new home. Lucy
seemed to adjust wonderfully to this change and for about the first
three weeks, things were great. Then, I went away for five days at the
end of July. I was completely distraught about how to feed her while I
was away and eventually decided on getting an automatic fish feeder.
<No....! Automatic feeders are at best unnecessary, and at worst a
guaranteed way to turn your aquarium into a septic tank during your
absence. Fish can go many days, even weeks, without food. Water quality
will stay much better if you don't feed your fish. Instead have a friend
just check the water is warm and the filter working, but otherwise leave
fish unfed for periods of up to 7 days, and for longer periods a single
meal per week is usually ample.>
I knew before I left that it dished out way more food than I wanted it
to, but at least I knew she wouldn't go hungry. When I got home, the
only visible change was cloudiness, a lot of food on the bottom and
after a few days, brown algae. I used a gravel vacuum to clean up the
food, which I did three times that week. The ammonia and nitrite levels
weren't zero anymore, so I did water changes every day until these were
back down to zero.
<Your fish has a serious bacterial infection, Finrot is usually caused
by poor water quality, and my guess would be that your fish is quite old
(they're basically annual fish in the wild) and exposure to
ammonia/nitrite overwhelmed its immune system. The cure is two-fold:
treat with Maracyn (US) or eSHa 2000 (Europe) and at the same time
optimise water quality.>
Then, the diatoms appeared. I was told that this wasn't harmful to fish,
so I didn't worry
about it, but I did vacuum the tank pretty regularly and rinsed off any
decorations that were looking really bad.
<Diatoms are indeed harmless. Usually appear in dimly-lit tanks, but
they also appear when water quality varies rapidly. Very common in new
tanks for that reason. So while they can be an indication something was
wrong with the tank, they're not in themselves a problem.>
Then, sometime during the second full week of August, I noticed a few
things about Lucy. She wasn't eating as much as she used to. She would
stare at the food and then swim away. Eventually, she would eat a flake
or two, but she would take a long time to eat. She also
takes a long time to eat blood worms, which isn't normal for her at all.
The second thing that I noticed was something strange going on at the
top of her body, right behind her head. It looked as though she had dry
skin or that she scraped herself. That area eventually became a
yellowish color; as if the scales were rubbed off. I can also see what
looks like her spine sticking out/up.(I have attached a picture to try
to show this). I guess I kept thinking that it must be some kind of
scraping, because nothing that I read in books or on the Internet
remotely described this condition. She also seems to be "crooked". Now,
for as long as I knew her in her bowl, she would often times appear to
be a little crooked, but could always straighten back up again. This new
crookedness never goes away. She doesn't appear to have any problems
swimming because of this, though. Other than what I have described, she
was acting normal. Still energetic and friendly.
<As stated, I think this is a combination of age/stress.>
Then, on August 31st, I added two Otocinclus catfish to the tank.
<Not my favourite fish. They are extremely difficult to maintain because
they need spotlessly clean, relatively cool water with a strong water
current. In other words, not the conditions in your Betta aquarium (and
I will bet all the money in my pocket that yours will be dead within 6
months). They also attack slow-moving fish, grazing mucous from the
body. I've seen this happen, and while I suspect it might be a sign the
Otocinclus are hungry, but even so, why risk it?>
Then, on the 5th of September, I thought I noticed white spots, a few on
each side, of Lucy. This is in addition to her "dry" skin, crookedness
and lack of appetite.
<I'd be SERIOUSLY concerned about the Otocinclus making things worse
here. These catfish just aren't viable tankmates here, and I do wish
aquarium shops would stop selling them! Or at least, wouldn't push them
on casual aquarists in now way prepared to keep them.>
But, even though I know I definitely saw something on her, I really
couldn't tell if it matched the description of ich. I couldn't always
see these spots from every angle and my husband didn't think they looked
like white spots. So, I went running around to many different pet stores
looking at all the different medicines. Nothing looked like it matched
her description, so I didn't buy anything. I did, however, pick up algae
wafers for the catfish, since by now the tank was sparkling clean. The
instructions on these things were so vague, and I've never had fish
before, so I put in two of these wafers; one for each fish. I had no
idea what these things would do, or else I would have known not to put
that much in.
<One algae wafer per day would be ample for six to eight Otocinclus spp.
These are schooling catfish by the way, and don't do well kept singly or
in twos and threes.>
Anyway, I woke up the next morning and Lucy was laying in the bottom of
the tank right by the algae, which was all soft and flowing now, and she
looked as if she was gasping for air.
<Probably overfeeding, likely stress. I just WOULD NOT trust a Betta
with Otocinclus.>
She was actually opening and closing her mouth...nonstop. Her gills even
seemed to be moving really fast too. I immediately vacuumed out the
algae and did a 50% water change. This, at least, stopped her from
"panting". At this point, I knew I needed to do something and the safest
sounding thing to use/try that I found on the Internet was Aquari-sol. I
could only find one pet store in my general area who sold it, so I went
to get some. The clerk at the pet store thought that her breathing
heaving had nothing to do with the algae (although I was reprimanded for
putting so much in) and that he said it sounded like she has parasites
on her gills.
<Do be careful about randomly adding medications; you can do more harm
than good. In this instance, you surely need to treat for Finrot before
worrying about anything else.>
So, I treated the tank from September 7th through the 16th with
Aquari-sol, removed the carbon filter and I also raised the temperature
to 86 degrees. Throughout this time, Lucy
hasn't been very energetic. She spends most of her time laying in a
plant or hanging by the heater. Sometimes she is right up against it.
She will swim around for a little bit, but then she will just shut down.
Also during this week, her fins became torn looking. They don't looked
frayed, just ripped.
<Again, classic Finrot symptoms.>
And now that I stopped the treatment, whatever the white spots were
didn't necessarily go away, but now looks like dry skin too, as if she
is peeling. I have also noticed a few "dirty" looking marks that have
developed on her. These marks are brown in color and it looks like she
is just dirty. (I have attached a picture to try and show this - you can
also see some damage to one of her pelvic fins). I have now returned the
carbon back into the filter and have gotten the temperature down to 82
degrees. I am working on getting it all the way back to 80 degrees,
which is where I originally had it.
My tank specifications are:
Size: 10 gallons
Whisper Power Filter
Heater is currently at 82 degrees, but is normally at 80 degrees
pH: 8
ammonia: 0
nitrites: 0
I also added an air stone and an aerator when I turned the heat up.
<Too warm for Otocinclus in the long term; they need something around
the 22-24 C/72-75F level.>
I am so sorry for the length of this email. I know that I probably
mentioned a lot of unnecessary things, but I didn't want to leave any
important information out. I truly appreciate any help that you can give
me. I just want Lucy to be happy and healthy and after fruitless hours
of searching the Internet for answers, I came across your Website and
thought maybe you could help.
Thanks again. I really appreciate this.
Kristin
<Cheers, Neale.>
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Re: Sick Betta Fish 9/22/08
Hello Again.
<Kristin,>
Thank you so much, Neale, for such a quick reply. I will definitely take
the advice about the automatic fish feeder in the future.
<Good.>
Thank you for your diagnosis and medication recommendation. I certainly
didn't want to treat her for the wrong thing. From everything I have
read about fish diseases, nothing seemed to fit the symptoms that I was
looking for, so I am very thankful for your assessment. I started her on
the Maracyn on Friday night. Last night was her third dose, and as of
this morning, I haven't seen any improvement.
<Oh. Do give it time...>
I still have two days of treatment left though, as per the box
instructions. I was wondering what you thought I should do, if this
doesn't work. The instructions for the Maracyn seem to indicate that if
the first treatment doesn't work, that I can either treat her for five
more days with the Maracyn or that I could switch to Maracyn-Two.
<Correct. Maracyn 1 and Maracyn 2 treat different types of bacterial
(gram positive versus gram negative, to be precise) so if one doesn't
work, the other should.>
I'm certainly not looking to drug her to death, but I do want her to get
better. I would truly appreciate your opinion on this. I was also
wondering about something else. I had to take my carbon filter out,
since the Maracyn instructions said that if the filter was less than
five days old I should remove it.
<Correct. Carbon removes most organic materials from water, which is
why, for example, it's used to treat poisons in the Emergency Room of
hospitals. But while that's a good thing, it just as happily removed
good drugs (medications) as well as bad ones (poisons). By default, I
recommend against using the stuff in any freshwater aquarium unless YOU
know precisely how it works and what it's for. Most aquarists use the
stuff because they're told they need it, and they don't know enough to
refuse the sales pitch from the retailer/manufacturer.>
As of yesterday, my water tests have been 0 ammonia and 0 nitrites. If
these numbers should change and I need to do a water change, do I just
continue the medicine doses as normal, or is there something special I
would need to do to?
<Just carry on, doing a generous water change at the end of each full
course of medication.>
I had no idea that Otocinclus catfish could be so destructive. I have
never noticed any aggressive behavior from either one of them. I guess I
need to figure out what I am going to do about them.
<They're not "aggressive" as such, it's just that hungry Otocinclus will
view slow-moving fish as a buffet bar. Have seen this myself, and had to
deal with the consequences, a seriously damaged Goby.>
You mentioned that you were concerned about the Otocinclus making things
worse. Do you mean you think that they have already attacked her and I
just haven't seen it and that maybe they have caused her some physical
damage?
<Either. What the Otocinclus certainly will do is consume the mucous,
rasping the skin, producing what looks like pus-filled outgrowths and
blemishes. Not all Otocinclus do this, but do be aware of it, and watch
them.>
In the meantime, I'll continue her medicine regimen and I'll have to
figure out what I can do with the Otos.
<OK.>
Thank you again for all of your advice. I appreciate the time that you
must put into answering these questions.
<Most welcome.>
Sincerely,
Kristin
<Cheers, Neale.>
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please i need help with my Betta 9/18/09
Good morning,
<Good morning!>
I live in Bangalore , India where pet shops are not very evolved...i was given a
small bottle of orange liquid -already mixed ...no clue what's in it!!
<Me neither... could be tea-tree oil (Melaleuca oil), a mild antiseptic
sometimes used in fishkeeping.>
and told to add 3 drops when i do a water change- for colour of fish and
plants.. That's how evolved it is....and i think, here, when a fish gets sick
unless you help me, he will die. I am a first time fish owner. Help!!!
<If this is tea-tree oil, "evolution" has nothing to do with it! This stuff is
widely used in America and Europe as well. It's not consistently effective
though. So while it could be used to prevent an infection, I wouldn't ever rely
on it as a cure for an existing infection.>
So i bought a male Betta. about a inch long. I keep him with a lot of floating
and rooted plants in a 5 liter fish bowl.
<Too small... almost certainly any problems you have come down to water quality.
Bettas are fish, and like all fish they need filtration.>
When i got him, i got online and checked what i have to do to keep him happy. I
realised he had ich when i bought him and was listless. So i did everyday 1/2
water changes. (i don't have a ph measuring anything nor a filter nor a
heater...it's India).
<While I agree heating may be redundant, do check the water is around 25 C
constantly. As for filtration, there's no excuse for not using a filter.>
and I added sea salt everyday (less than a teaspoon into his water change) and
kept him in the sun where the day temp is 27 Celsius. it made a difference in a
few days...the ich left off and he was happy and energetic. I still continue the
daily water changes. Water added
after tap water is left standing for 24 hours.
<OK.>
I feed him one earthworm per day- live food from soil for plants. He does not
like the pellets. He eats well. as soon as i put the worm in, he eats it and
that's that.
<Good.>
Yesterday when i was doing his water change, I added the orange liquid. And i
gave him two worms instead of one. he ate both.
<OK.>
But this morning, his fins have shredded overnight. I don't know about finding
black stuff on his fins coz his fins are coloured blue with specks of black
anyways. although he is getting to be a little silvery. loosing a little colour.
<The "shredded fins" are likely Finrot. Do a water quality test: if you detect
ammonia or nitrite, that's the problem. Finrot is a symptom of poor water
quality almost every time.>
I think there are some things that i did different
- I added the orange liquid.
-i fed him two worms
- i poured the water in with a little more force than i normally do
<OK.>
I really need help. please tell me if he is sick and if i need to introduce
medicines, how do i do that?
<The orange liquid probably won't help. Certainly can't be sure without knowing
what it is. Do see here, and look in the row for Finrot. Melafix is tea-tree
oil, likely the same thing as your orange liquid, and of doubtful usefulness.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWsubwebindex/fwfishmeds.htm
>
Can you direct me on what i need to do? please don't tell me to put in medicines
unless you can direct me on which med's( we don't have medicines for fish here)
and how do i introduce it.
<Sorry, can't say anything about what's available in shops other than the ones
in the UK and US -- my parts of the world. Would suggest joining a fish club in
your area (many have online forums and other resources where you can talk with
people who live near to you).>
speed will be much appreciated.
<Done my best.>
lost and worried
Anita
<Cheers, Neale.>
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My bloated Betta GiGi... poor env. 9/15/08
I love my Betta Gigi very much and I've noticed that her
<It's a boy.>
belly looks like she swallowed a bean.
<Not uncommon; likely overfeeding, and the wrong foods at that. The
worst thing you can do is give them dried "Betta pellets" day-in,
day-out. There are the equivalent of frozen pizza for humans. Fine once
in a while, but not good as a staple. The problems include a lack of
fibre, and this causes constipation, and that causes abdominal swelling
(and presumably some discomfort to the fish). The solution is to switch
to high fibre foods. Live daphnia and brine shrimp are particularly
good, but failing that squished tinned peas work very well, though
Bettas aren't wild about them and will need to be starved a bit before
they'll eat them. Obviously avoid anything dried or freeze-dried, as
these have the opposite effect and will just make things worse. Do see
here for more tips on Betta diet:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/betfdgfaqs.htm
>
I'm really concerned about her health.
<Well, I'd be too, given one photo seems to imply your Betta lives in
the fridge! Regardless, your "living" quarters for this Betta is
essentially a cell on Death Row. I can't make this point any more
clearly than this: no-one should keep a Betta in a bowl or jar. They
need regular fish tanks just like any fish. I'd say something around 5
gallons would be a good starting point, providing space for the fish to
swim about as well as (critically) water volume do dilute metabolic
wastes. For example, I don't see a filter here. No fish lives long
without a filter. Period. End of discussion. In a 5 gallon tank you can
easily install an air-powered sponge filter for very little money.
Likewise this is a TROPICAL fish and needs warmth; a heater is essential
(unless you live in the tropics!) so that the water temperature is not
less than 25 degrees C (that's 77 F if you're still Daniel Fahrenheit's
system based on the freezing point of the Baltic Sea and the warmth of
blood from a freshly killed pig). Room temperature won't do, and nor
will a carefully positioned lamp over the top of the tank.>
My symptom judgment is inexperienced and I've decided to seek assistance
from a 3rd party which is yourself.
<Done my best: Here's the solution. Go buy a proper aquarium with a
heater and a filter. Nothing else will do in the long term.>
Can you please give me your honest opinion and let me know if there is
anything that can help us.
<See above.>
Please email me when you have come to a conclusion.
Fretfully,
Gigi's Momme
<For good or for bad, we get a lot of messages like this one. I think
people buy Bettas as pets for dormitory rooms and the like, assuming
they can keep a fish in a small jug under an angle-poise lamp for
warmth. You can't. The fish dies a slow and miserable death. My advice
is always this: Animals don't give a hoot about having cute names or
whether you love them or not. They don't register stuff like that. All
they care about is how well they're maintained. If you want the animal
to be happy, you provide for its needs. In the case of a Betta, that
means an aquarium with a heater and a filter. The pictures you've seen
of Bettas in glass jars are how they're maintained by expert breeders.
The jars are in heated "fish houses" where the water is raised to the
necessary temperature by the very hot air in the room. The breeder
changes the water in the jars at least once per day, and more than
likely will be carefully regulating food intake and measuring water
quality to ensure good health. This just isn't viable for the casual
aquarist with little or no experience of keeping fish in this way. Your
ONLY viable option is a regular (albeit small) tropical aquarium that
will keep the Betta healthy between 25-50% water changes every week or
two. Cold water and cold air above the tank are lethal to them, the
latter because they are air breathers and can't handle breathing cold
air from a draughty room. Do read Bob Fenner's summary of their care,
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/betta_splendens.htm
Hope this helps, and if you need more input after reading Bob's piece,
get in touch. Cheers, Neale.>
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Re: My bloated Betta GiGi 9/17/08
Hello Friend,
<Greetings,>
Thank you very much for the quick response. So I took your advice, my
Betta GiGi is no longer living in the fridge lol. Just joking she never
was I just needed the extra light. But I did buy some live brine shrimp.
I was unable to purchase the Daphnia they are unavailable in California.
<Common enough in ponds, if your neighbours have ponds without fish.>
I have just a few questions concerning the storage of brine shrimp.
Currently they're in a closed container and I have so many left over..
(1)Where can I store them for later use other than my fridge? Storing
them there kinda creeps me out.
<They do need storing in the fridge, or else in a bucket containing
salty water and an airstone. The problem is that if you keep them at
room temperature without an airstone, they'll suffocate.>
Also I noticed that a lot of them are hiding underneath GiGi's rocks in
her tank. (2)Will they eventually contaminate the tank?
<Yes; remove uneaten food within 5 minutes. Golden rule of fishkeeping,
and essential in "jars" without filters or enough water volume to be
safe. Are you going to upgrade the tank any time soon? What you feed the
fish is neither here nor there if the basic environment is dangerous.>
and I also noticed that she is spitting some of them out. (3)Is that
normal?
<Yes.>
Also she isn't eating all of them there are about 20 swimming around in
her tank. I don't want to run the risk of overfeeding her.
<You're overfeeding her already. Anything she doesn't eat, is
"overfeeding".>
Thank you for your continued support and advice it is truly appreciated.
<Does that mean you're buying an aquarium with a heater or filter?
Knowing that people are going to care for their fish properly is all the
reward we want.>
I hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks,
Princesskeesah
<Cheers, Neale.>
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Next Steps for Betta after recovery from serious illness
9/11/08
I am e-mailing to seek your expert advise as to after care for a male Betta who
has recovered from what appeared to be a serious bacterial infection.
<Ok>
I have had this fellow for almost 2 years.
<Mmm, do know that this is "about a natural lifetime" for Betta splendens>
Fortunately until recently he has never been sick or needed any type of
treatment for parasites.
He lives in a filtered, heated, 5 gallon tank. Prior to treatment with
antibiotics the tank was cycled and I performed 30 percent water changes every 4
to 5 days. I use a turkey baster to clean the gravel because he gets very upset
with the aquarium gravel cleaner.
<Good to be upset sometimes>
About a month ago I cleaned the gravel as usual and the next day I noticed he
didn't seem to be feeling very well. Things went right downhill until he was so
sick that I thought he would never live. His eyes turned red (at one point I
thought his eyes may even be gone) his gills were swollen and one side looked
like it had a blood spot. Some of the scales seemed to be missing around his
eyes and mouth and the spots were blood red. He had something around his gills
which looked like body fungus. He lost his colour and started to bloat. I
thought for sure dropsy was setting in. I tried Maracyn and Maracyn 2 over a two
week period but he just kept getting worse. He did not eat for almost two weeks
and laid at the bottom most of the time. Finally I thought I'd try Maracyn Plus
never expecting anything positive could happen. After three days of treatment I
noticed he was moving around a little and seemed to be a little more colourful.
The next day at feeding time he swam to the top of his tank and wiggled around
just like always. He started eating that day and within a couple more days all
physical symptoms of illness were gone. He looks perfect and he seems to have
very good sight. At first even though he looked good he seemed to get tired
quickly and the aquarium light bothered him. (so I only left the light on while
he was being fed) Now his energy has returned and he is back to flaring at his
neighbour and sitting on top of his plant and watching everyone's activities.
After all of this I need to clean the bottom of his tank but I am afraid I will
unleash something again. I have been doing more frequent water changes but I was
thinking about removing him and rinsing the gravel and plants with warm well
water.
<Mmm, "well water" covers a wide span of possibilities... I might well use some
sort of "bottled drinking water" for this fish>
I would save about 60 to 70 percent of his old water and not rinse or change the
filter media at that time. Do you think this is a good plan or do you have other
suggestions.
<See above>
I am also watching very carefully for signs of illness again. I thought about
running another course of the Maracyn Plus but decided to keep a close eye on
him and only use it again if he shows signs of being sick.
He has fought so hard to recover that I really would like to do this properly.
Your assistance would be most appreciated. Thanks so much for being there for
us.
Jeanette
<Don't know what course of action to take here... Am not a fan of continuous
antimicrobial use... Your system (other than possible water issues) reads as
okay... Is the food/s you're using fouling the water (does it appear cloudy,
smelly?)... It may well be that this Betta is mostly "getting old"... Bob
Fenner>
Re: Next Steps for Betta after recovery from serious illness
9/11/08
Thank you so much for getting back to me. Had a good laugh about your "good to
be upset sometimes". A real eye opener for me.
I have heard that Bettas cannot stand stress and that they may die if they get
too disturbed.
<The word "too" is provocative... Too little or too much stress can be harmful>
With this in mind I have allowed some of my Bettas especially some of the older
boys to train me on their likes and dislikes.
<Good of you>
With respect to the tank there is no odour and the water is clear.
Normally I don't really see much of anything coming up from the gravel when it
is cleaned except fine pieces of white debris.
<I see>
I remove any uneaten food but my Bettas usually eat everything. I feed Hikari
pellets, freeze dried blood worms and shrimp.
<Very good>
Your response has certainly made me think that I was the one who contaminated
the tank somehow when I was cleaning it.
<Most often there are issues of being "too" (here's that word again) clean...
the interruption of bio-filtration predominantly>
I always run my fish "things" like water containers and turkey basters through
the dishwasher on sani cycle after use. (no soap is used) Maybe this is not
really cleaning them well enough.
<Mmm, perhaps so. I would not clean all in this fashion>
I will look into the water again. I had some guidance from Neal a few months ago
and everything checked out at that time but I understand it has to be ongoing.
I agree with you on limiting the use of medication whenever possible.
Unfortunately even after a few years at this I still have a problem deciding to
medicate or not.
<Many do>
At this point I would like to add that one of the most valuable pieces of advise
I have gained from your site is the benefit of trying extra water changes first
when a fish seems to be sick. It sounds far too simple and easy to be true but
it has worked many times for me.
<Ah yes>
Once again thanks for being there for us.
Jeanette
<Welcome. BobF>
Betta Problems, env., reading – 09/08/08
Hi crew!
I am a new fish owner as of a week ago. I decided to start out with a Betta
because they're good to have as dorm room fish and they do well on their own. I
decided to get a baby BiOrb which is about 4 gallons.
<Do leave the water level down a few inches... Bettas can "jump">
I went to a great aquarium store and bought a beautiful healthy Crowntail Betta.
I conditioned the water and let my system run for 24 hours before putting him in
the tank.
<Mmmm... needs to "cycle"... do you know what this is?>
He was a very happy fishy for a couple of days!
He would come up to the front of the tank whenever I was in the room and
constantly swam around enjoying his big home and patrolling his perimeter (he is
a Betta after all...). He was eating great and occasionally flaring whenever I
would accidentally surprise him or put a mirror up to his tank.
However, a couple of days ago I noticed he was lethargic and was shoving his
face down in the "ceramic media" at the bottom of the tank near his plants. I
went out and bought him a water heater and now keep the water at about 80
degrees. I also bought him a shorter plant because I thought that maybe he was
trying to move his plants to a better area for building a bubble nest and that's
why he was shoving his face into his gravel. The BiOrb has a lot of airflow on
the top of the water so tall plants aren't good for building bubble nests.
Lastly, I tested the water for ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates and all readings
were zero.
<Mmm... will change in a few days...>
However, the pH was a little high at 8.0. Today Willy (that's his name) is
hiding whenever possible, his gills are pumping at an alarming rate, and he
seems stiff whenever he swims. He is still eating but it's hard to get him to
notice
the food (I feed him Hikari Betta Bio-gold). Also, I smelled the water and it
almost smelled...burnt?
<Mmm, you have good olfaction>
I think it might just be the halogen light at the top of the tank but it might
be relevant. I haven't been able to do a water change because the siphon is
still in the mail. Help! What's wrong with my fishy?
Thanks!
Laura and Willy
<Mmm, really... "just" the set-up protocol, timing here. Please read:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Betta Problems continued – 09/08/08
I forgot to include in my last email that Willy's fins are stiff and the "whispies"
(again, he's a Crowntail) that are usually flowy and nice are thin and stiff as
well. Thanks for your help!
Laura and Willy
<Read. RMF>
Betta help, hlth. 9-01-08
I have 2 male Bettas, in separate tanks and in different rooms. The
tanks are both the same size--10 gallon. They both have a water filter that
hangs on the back of the tanks. They both also have gravel. I do not have
heaters for them yet but their water stays around 80-84. I’m going to purchase
heaters before winter sets in though to make sure the water temp doesn't drop
during the nights. <Good idea on getting the heater! Sounds like they have a nice home!> I have added salt to both tanks. The water get about a 25% water change every 2
weeks. The levels of ammonia, nitrate and nitrite are fine. Their light are off
during the night and only on a little throughout the day. They get fed twice a day--morning and evening. Their food consists of Betta
bites pellets, freeze dried bloodworms and BettaMin flakes. I switch what they
get fed from day to day. <Sounds great!!> My one Betta is doing just fine, although he is a picky eater. He won't eat the
flakes but he will sometimes eat the pellets. He just loves the bloodworms.
Since I've had him, he has made one bubblenest. <That’s fine. I would not worry about the bubblenest making.> My second Betta is the problem. He is definitely NOT a picky eater. He loves it
all, even bits of pea. The problem with him is that he is biting his tail. I
though maybe too much stress since he was always "fighting" his reflection in
the back of the tank, so I taped paper on the outside back of the tank to
prevent his reflection. I don’t see him flaring much anymore but he is still
biting his tail. I just added some Melafix to his tank at half strength to help
his tail heal. <Have you seen him bite his tail?> Is there anything else I could do to try to stop the tail biting? Am I doing
anything wrong? I've never owned Bettas before and I would welcome any advice. <Sounds like you are on the right track. Your male Betta that "bites" his tail
might have fin rot instead. If you have actually seen him bite his tail, I have
heard the biting behavior being from the tank temperature fluctuating too much.
You are already getting a heater so if he is biting his tail, it should stop.
But, if it doesn't them he might have fin rot. Just purchase some Maracyn to
cure it. Don't worry sounds like your Bettas are going to have a long happy
life. Merritt A.>
Two red lines
on Betta's gills... 8/23/08
Hi, I have had my Betta, Theo Philas, for about a good three months now.
He's extremely active and eats very well. Lately, I have noticed that each of
his gills have two red vertical lines on them. I think the scales are missing.
<Are these markings symmetrical? That is, appear the same on/with either gill?>
Not sure. His condition has not worsened though. By that I mean that he's not
become lethargic or stopped eating. He still eats the same amount of food that I
always give him and he even follows my fingers around until I drop the pellets
in the bowl. Normal behavior. Everything seems fine except these red lines. I'm
a little worried so I felt that I should ask about them. Could you tell me what
they are?
Thanks,
Taylor
<As you state this animal appears in good health and the marks may be
bisymmetrical, I suspect that this is a genetic matter... That is, a natural,
perhaps scale-less condition on this animal that results in some part of the
gill/branchiostegals showing through in these areas. Please so send along images
of both sides if you can... and consider looking into breeding this fish to
"fix" this trait. Bob Fenner>
Betta hernia?
Hi, I'm pet-sitting a male Betta fish right now, and today my family and
I noticed a longish pink thing trailing down from the underside of his
belly. He seems to be moving around just fine, but we're not exactly sure
what to do! Does he have a hernia, and if he does, what can we do about it?
~ Stephanie
<Greetings Stephanie! Assuming that this "thing" is merely a long,
string-like thing emerging from the anus, what you're seeing is faeces, and
more specifically constipation. Bettas that are fed nothing but
flake/pellets are prone to this problem, and in the long term it can cause
serious damage. So recommend to the pet owner he/she feed a more varied,
healthy diet that contains not just dried foods but also things like live or
wet frozen daphnia and brine shrimp. I'd recommend limiting dried foods to
only 50% the diet for any fish, including Bettas. Cheers, Neale.>
Problems with rescued Bettas 7/11/08
Hello,
I'm sorry to bother you all with an e-mail, but I've been conducting a
frustrating and fruitless search online for hours, and your site is the most
resourceful and knowledgeable that I've found.
I rescue sick Bettas from local pet stores, nurse them back to health, and
adopt them out.
<Interesting... purview and activity>
I take the ones with the worst problems that no one else wants, or are going
to die anyway (i.e. from TB), so my death rate is pretty high. But I also
have a lot of success stories. Since I am only a temporary home for many,
many fish, my set up is very simple--unfiltered plastic tanks of less than a
gallon.
<Can be done... this is how they're raised... with care to feeding, change
water...>
I have a heater fan to keep them warm and thermometers to monitor temp. I'm
a poor college student who spends most of her money on fish meds. My fish
spend an average of four weeks with me getting treated before they go to
bigger, permanent homes, so I don't feel bad about the less-than-optimal
set-up. (Better than cups in an air-conditioned pet store, right?)
<Of a certainty, yes>
Yesterday I took home a female Betta, "Niobe," because she was having
seizures in her cup. I was hoping that fresh water would help because she
looked like she was having trouble breathing. (One of my other rescues had
bad ammonia poisoning, and sat on the bottom in horrible contorted positions
gasping for air for about 48 hours before recovering. Even after that he'd
skitter along the top with his nose out of the water once in a while if he
got too excited and couldn't get enough oxygen.) I put her in new water and
it seemed to decrease the frequency of her attacks, but this morning she had
three bad attacks in the span of about six hours. I'm going to start giving
her daily 50% water changes and see if it helps. Most of the time she sits
very still with all her fins stretched out like her body is straining. She
is always breathing hard. During her attacks she spins rapidly like a
corkscrew (chasing her tail or on her nose), hurtles around the tank, and
even leaps out of the water and bounces off the plastic top several times.
Today I'm getting her netting so she will bounce off that instead of the
plastic top. I'm worried that she will seriously injure herself by hitting
the top so hard. Also this morning one of her eyes is slightly
swollen--could be the start of popeye or maybe just bruised from her
bouncing?
<Possibly>
She's not eating, either. Please help. I've never seen a fish act like this
before.
<Perhaps too much neuronal damage...>
Also, I've encountered a number of fish with a floating problem that won't
be fixed by the pea trick. They eat normally and pass things normally, but
they're bloated in the front and float by their bellies. No pineconing,
though. I don't give them aquarium salt either (that increases swelling,
yes?).
<Mmm, no, not necessarily. I am a big fan of Epsom use... even as a
cathartic, temporary bath>
They sit on their sides on the surface fighting to prevent themselves
from flipping completely upside-down. Sometimes they start passing a very
long transparent-white string.
<Mmm, too likely evidence of lumenal parasite fauna... Look up
Octomita/Hexamita and Bettas, freshwater fishes imported from the Far East>
I thought it might be Dropsy, or at least bacteria, so I treated the two
floating girls I had at the time with Maracyn I.
<Mmm, generally Metronidazole...>
Three days into treatment one of them started passing gas (not kidding).
By the end of the treatment she had literally deflated and went back to
normal. But the treatment didn't even affect the other female. After three
months of floating constantly she finally started being able to swim
normally at nighttime, and she was floating less buoyantly during the day.
Unfortunately she died soon after. I currently have a male who has been
floating for two weeks. Pea didn't work. I'm going to try the Maracyn soon.
Thinking about Epsom salts (1 Tbs/5gal, right?). Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks so much,
Cindy
<Is about right. Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/saltusefaqs.htm
for background, cautionary statements>
P.S. If anyone writes in about a Betta whose back end drags when he swims,
it's probably due to a spinal injury from transport. I've got three. I put
them in tanks with a lot of bottom surface area and fill the water up as
high as they can reach for air (usually I start them at one inch). Then I
gradually raise the water level over time so they can develop their
front-end swimming muscles enough to compensate for the back-end not working
properly. Plastic floating plants to sit in are essential. Eventually they
can live at a normal water level--my oldest can now swim twelve inches up to
the surface.
<Thank you for sharing, this input. Bob Fenner>
Help! Betta hlth. – 07/10/08
Hi Crew,
I purchased my little crowned beauty on the weekend along with tank, heater,
filter. It is a 4 gallon tank and he seems really happy after the first few
days of settling in. His water temperature is right. However, I have noticed
the ends of his spines appear as though he is suffering from split ends I
have repeatedly checked to make sure there is nothing he can get caught on
and cannot find anything that would pose a problem.
<Very good. Sounds a nice little home for a Betta.>
He has dug a bit in his gravel a little but there are fin ends floating
around. Could this be fin rot?
<Yes!>
I really want my little bloke to be with us for a long time...any help would
be greatly appreciated.
<Treat with a reliable anti-Finrot medication such as Maracyn or eSHa 2000.
Don't bother with salt or tea-tree oil medications (such as Melafix). Do
also review water quality. If the tank is new, the filter is likely
immature. While Bettas have some tolerance for poor water quality, you still
need to try and keep ammonia and nitrite levels as low as possible through
the cycling phase. After 4-6 weeks they should be zero. The best way to do
this is to feed as little as possible, and do 25% water changes daily for at
least the first 2-3 weeks. After that, do 25% water changes every 2-3 days.
After 4-6 weeks your nitrite test kit should reveal zero amount of this
stuff, and you can go to a normal water change cycle of 25-50% per week.>
Regards
Narissa
<Good luck! Neale.>
What is wrong with our poor Betta?
7/5/08
Hello again,
<Sandy>
Since moving our Betta from his plastic half gallon kit home to a 10 gallon
home with live plants and 5-20 Aqua Clear filter, he was doing very well. No
need for heater yet - we live in Florida and will get a heater come
September when the temps begin to drop below mid 70's at night and we can
open the windows again.
<Mmm... actually do need the heater now... Not so much a given temp., but
any large fluctuation you're trying to avoid... just set and leave...
they're thermostatic>
Plant lights keep the water at 80 degrees constantly in the days and it is
never below 79 when I check on him in the mornings.
<Oh!?>
Betta began to swim back and forth at the front of the tank - looked like he
was pacing frantically.
Definitely not swimming around the tank checking things out.
<Mmm, perhaps it's seeing its own reflection, and reacting to same. Very
common... see below>
We decided to get a 6 long-finned Danios to see how he would manage some
company. I was at first concerned that he would get the Danios, but he
couldn't even get near the Danios. They are some crazy, active fish!
<Ah yes. Frenetic... like I wish our federal lame-duck gov't was>
Betta seemed very unconcerned with the Danios after the second day.
By the end of the 4th day, I noticed him head down in the corner of the
front of the tank not moving at all. Then the next day I thought he was
"stuck" in the Japanese lantern structure, but he was just hanging out there
for a while. Then later that evening, I saw him wedge himself between the
Wisteria and the side glass and just stay there - head down again. A few
hours later, I saw him at the top rear corner of the tank not moving at all,
even after I tapped the glass.
I thought he was just stressed by the energy and activity of the Danios,
which is pretty constant. I filled his little plastic half gallon tank with
the same tank water and put him back in with his plastic plant and purple
gravel - where he had weekly 75+% water changes. He immediately perked up,
but not for long. He now seems quite listless again, although not as bad as
in the 10 gallon tank - he has also looked "fat", but not bloated to me for
a few weeks now, but I didn't think too much of it until recently. He does
not seem injured at all and I have looked closely.
He is fed Hikari pellets - about 4-6 pellets twice a day and Hikari dried
bloodworms every other day or so. We have had him for almost 2 years now,
and he was the same size when we got him, so I assume, he might have been at
least almost fully mature when we got him - no idea how old this fish really
is. Could he just be getting old, and have I pushed him over the edge with
the Danios?
<Perhaps both>
The fish manager at Petsmart said Bettas are naturally territorial
<Really only towards other male Bettas, or what they perceive as such>
and the fact that he couldn't do anything about the Danios was probably
extremely stressful. He thought a divider might be just as stressful.
<Mmm, no>
I went to WWM and read your Betta pages twice. Very helpful. You are all so
wonderful and help us to take much better care of our finned friends.
<Is our goal to help others understand, provide good care, enjoy/appreciate
the living world, themselves>
My kids 13, 4 and 2, are in love with the Danios. Much more entertaining to
watch than the Betta, if not as colorful.
<Ahhh>
Would you recommend putting him back in the 10 gallon tank with a divider?
<Yes... of the given options, this is best>
Or do you think that being able to see the Danios would remain a stress for
him? I know - hard to say, but I hate to think of him being in the filter
less "tank" again - now that I know better. I will probably put some of the
live plants in his little tank until I hear from you. If he is just getting
older and tired, I would like him to live out his old age peacefully.
Thanks again,
Sandy
<And do try covering one end or the back of the aquarium with paper... and
tape, on the outside... Could be that interacting with the reflection
alluded to above that is causing this fish to be "bummed out". Bob Fenner>
Follow up Re: What is wrong with our
poor Betta? 7/6/08
Now two days later - I stumbled across all the WWM posts about Swim
Bladder Disorder and think this might have been possible for our little guy.
He seemed OK in the 1/2 gallon tank after I put in a Java Fern for him to
rest on. He didn't seem to be able to keep himself horizontal without it. I
fasted him for the past 2 days and added a tiny bit of aquarium salt to his
water. This morning, at feeding time, he was swimming around just a little
bit more than the past 2 days and I offered a smidgen of dried bloodworms,
which he ate right up. A few hours later, his color seems better. We'll keep
an eye on him and if he keeps improving, I will try to reintroduce him back
into the 10 gallon tank with a divider and see how that goes for him.
<Sounds good>
We had tried different backings on the 10 gallon tank, but everything we
tried was too reflective, until I found a pattern that had a matte finish
and that seems to work for him, which makes me think you are correct about
him pacing at the front of the tank where there is nothing to diminish any
reflection.
<I see>
With your comment (Oh??) about the plant lights and water temp, do you still
think I need to get a heater in now?
<I would... can't hurt...>
One more thing - Is it the new wisdom that salt in freshwater tanks is not
necessary unless the fish are sick or injured? I am concerned about any
damage to the live plants (which are considerable) in our tanks.
<All freshwaters (unless purposely distilled) have some salt/s content...
Adding more, except for certain species, or as you state, for medical
purposes, is not a good idea>
About our lame-duck gov't... I'm sure I am preaching to the choir, but just
REMEMBER TO VOTE!
<Thank you for this! To me, folks who don't do their bit at least to review
issues, get out and participate in the electorate process at the minimum to
at least vote... are non-citizens! "Good gov't demands the active,
intelligent participation of all citizens"... 5th century BC Athenian...
Greece>
Thanks again,
Sandy
<Welcome. BobF>
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Betta meds - 06/08/2007
Hello again, I had a couple more questions that I'm not finding any answers
to. One question of mine would be does Prime by Seachem water conditioner
neutralize ammonia that is present in my tap water.
<Yes it will remove ammonia from tap water. If in doubt, visit the
manufacturer's web site, thus:
http://www.seachem.com/products/product_pages/Prime.html
>
My other questions is, I put my Betta into his ten gallon tank which he seems to
like.
<I bet!>
Although he swims erratically diving to the bottom and swims too fast sometimes.
<Provided the filter isn't so strong he can't swim against it, he's likely just
enjoying himself. The long fins that "show" Bettas have make it difficult for
them to swim normally. Wild Bettas (and "fighting" Bettas) have much shorter,
more useful fins.>
My only problem is that after being there overnight his fins started to rot
again and went crinkled. I was treating him before in a five liter tank with
Maracyn and aquarium salts and his fins where regrowing even though the ammonia
in the five liter tank was higher then the ten gallon one.
<Anti-Finrot medications will work, provided water quality is otherwise sound.
If there's ammonia in the water, the fish will be cured/get sick again all at
the same time. This is obviously pointless.>
I didn't put as much salt in this ten gallon tank because there are plants and
I'm afraid the aquarium salts would kill them.
<Most plants will tolerate low salt concentrations just fine. Provided the dose
is less than 6 grammes per litre, I'd not worry about them. That said, salt is
of marginal value for treating Finrot. It can help with Fungus, particularly
when used as a dip, and may help to inhibit infections should the epidermis be
damaged, but once bacteria are inside the epidermis (which is what Finrot is, as
opposed to Fungus) then salt doesn't do much good.>
I have Maracyn, also seen malachite green at the store. What should I do I'm
lost.
<Use Maracyn as instructed, taking care to remove carbon (if used) from the
filter.>
The ammonia levels in the five liter hospital tank reads about 0.3 mg/L much
higher then in the ten gallon tank which reads 0.1 mg/L.
<Ah, that's part of your problem. You absolutely MUST fix this ammonia problem
before you can hope to see any signs of recovery.>
My ammonia tests are from Aquarium pharmaceuticals. According to Seachem the
false reading of 0.1 mg/L is normal and its really 0.0 mg/L but if its a false
reading of ammonia then why is he getting fin rot again?
<I'd be VERY skeptical about "false readings". Assume you have ammonia in the
system. If in doubt, double check with a nitrite test kit. If you have ammonia,
you will likely have nitrite too. Cut back on feeding, do 50% water changes
daily, and generally do all the things you'd do while maturing a brand new
aquarium.>
Please help, should I hospitalize him in another tank...
<No.>
...with the Maracyn again
<Use this, yes.>
which would cause great stress or should I do something else with the salts?
<I wouldn't bother.>
If u could give me a little outline on what to do It would greatly help the Fish
and I. Thanks again.
<Do review the articles here at WWM on cycling new aquaria, treating Finrot,
setting up a new aquarium. All relevant. Hope this helps, Neale.>
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