Pls respond 4/1/08
how can I tell if my red ear slider is gravid I got her from a pet store she
was in with 2 other males now she digs up the gravel what should I do if she is
<If she's old enough to be laying eggs (i.e, at least 10 cm/4" shell length)
then yes, she may well be wanting to lay eggs. Sexing Red Ear Sliders is very
easy. The males have very long front claws (longer than the foot itself) and the
tails of females are shorter than those of males and the cloaca (opening) is
nearer the base of the tail. She will be ready to lay eggs about two weeks after
mating. You need to provide a dry sand area to one side of the water where she
can lay her eggs. If she can't lay her eggs, she can become egg-bound, and that
will kill her, PAINFULLY. There's a nice summary of the details here:
http://www.redearslider.com/reproduction.html
I'd certainly concur with that author that rearing the eggs isn't worth doing.
Unless you specifically want to try your hand at breeding these reptiles, remove
the eggs and destroy them.
Cheers, Neale.>
I think I
have a pregnant turtle! 3/2/08
Hi there!
<Hiya, Darrel here>
I received two red eared sliders as a gift on Valentine's Day.
<Nothing says "I love you" like a pair of Pseudemys scripta elegans>
I am still trying to make out if one of them is a male or female. I know
the smaller one is a male and was doing the mating vibration thing to
the other turtle. He did this relentlessly for about two days and now
seemed to have stopped.
<Relentless amorous advances ... then suddenly stopping? Typical male --
I wonder if it's Turtle Basketball Season or something>
The other turtle has been digging in the rocks a lot and sitting on the
ramp under the light. I know this is common behavior for a female turtle
that has eggs to lay. The smaller male turtle has yet to use the ramp
and doesn't dig hardly at all.
<Are you saying he never basks? Even if she's monopolizing the ramp and
even if she keeps asking him where the relationship is headed every 10
minutes ..... he still NEEDS to bask.>
I live in snowy Minnesota and it is not a good idea to take my turtle
outside right now if she has to lay eggs. What exactly should I do if
she has to lay eggs? Or is it possible that she is a he? They both have
the same length of nails and their tails are almost the same.
<Well, I'd like to know exactly how big they are (inches). Males do not
generally make advances toward other males, so just on that shred of
evidence my guess would be she's female. She may be sexually immature
and not ready for courting though. Thickness of tails and length of
nails can often be subjective (except a sexually mature male's nails
will CLEARLY look as if they need to be clipped) so let's just deal with
the behaviors.>
Can you give me any advise? I attached a picture of the turtle in
question.
<From the pictures .. and just guessing at the relative size to the
stones in the tank (assuming they're medium to small size) then I'd
guess that both of them are immature and not mating and I doubt she's
gravid (with eggs). Write back with measured sizes>
Also can turtles hiccup? I think the male turtle got scared of me and
got the hiccups...
<Rest easy, it's not fear. It's something they just "do" from time to
time and I've never seen it related to any outside stimulus.>
<Stacy, the only thing I didn't like to hear was that the smaller (male
maybe) turtle isn't basking. That is an issue that you have to address.
I'll send you a link on general care, just for double checking your
setup>
Thanks,
Stacy
<Yer welcome>
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RES that have mated?
11/13/07
Hi,
<Hiya!>
Please help.
<Let's see what we can do for ya today>
Last Feb/07, I got (4) 1/2 dollar size red eared sliders. They are now about 5"
long.
<That's a healthy growth in 11 months! Make sure you're not over-feeding, OK?>
I have 2 male and 2 female.
<Females get bigger than males and males grow long front claws as they mature>
They have all lived together really well until yesterday. My husband caught one
of the males doing "it" with one of the females.
<We're all assuming that "it" has no relation to the character from The Addams
Family, right?>
Last night he was doing the claw waving at the other female but she was holding
tight lol.
<Yes, a sexually mature male will wave his long fingernails in front of a female
as if to say "See what I got? Wanna come over to my log?">
I thought they were too young to mate?
<Well, you know these young turtles today -- it's on all the logs and river
rocks and in the trees and everywhere they turn it's sex, sex sex. Britney
SpurThigh and T-lo laying eggs, Ice-Turtle rapping about it .... they just can't
get away from it!>
I am getting the females their own tank this weekend.
<That may be a bit drastic though -- this behavior does calm down and it is
natural, but separating them is a good idea if the original setup doesn't have
enough room for her to get AWAY from him when she's not in the mood.>
My other question is: do you think she is pregnant? Or is she too young for
that? And if she is, what do I need to do for her now?
<If she's the same size as he is, then she has an inch or so to grow before
she's sexually mature -- at least, that's the way it's SUPPOSED to work, but
when they grow from a half dollar size to five inches in 11 months, many other
things may be possible>
Also, she has been staying on the basking dock for about a week now, she does
get off every once in a while to eat, so he might have gotten to her sooner. Do
they do "it" more than once?
<Yes, they "do it" as often as he can get her to stay still for it until he's no
longer in the mood and then he calms down. This can and usually does subside
around the end of winter or early spring, but there will always be some of it
going on. As far as what to look for, yes -- after a while she'll go off her
normal schedule and seem more sedentary. Then she'll start acting as if she's
nervous, almost pacing back and forth on the dock area ... as if she's looking
for something. That will be your indication that she needs a nesting box (We'll
have more on that by the time you need it). Right now it's more likely that his
unwanted attention has given her a little stress and most likely why she's
spending time on the dock. After you separate them, give her a week or so to
settle down and then write back and keep up updated>
Thanks in advance for any help.
<Yer welcome!>
Angela
<Darrel>
Re: RES that have mated?
12/15/2007
Hi,
<Howdy!>
Thanks for your reply, when I get the females in the new tank, should I go ahead
and set it up with some dirt at one end, just in case?
<No, not yet -- read on>
I know they grew really fast, I feed them a little each day, with the Zoo Med
pellets, carrots, apples and lettuce. I am surprised that they don't fight or
bite each other, thank God. They are the cutest things.
<I think so too. Surrounded as I am with dogs, cats, fish, all manner of
Iguanas, Tortoises and turtles, the little Red Eared slider is still right up
there with my favorites.>
I ( my husband lol) am going to build them a pond in the backyard starting in
the spring since they are so big and just bring them in for the winter. We live
in Texas so we really don't have much of a winter here.
<OK now. I think that's a great idea. Just ONE THING about ponds, Angela ....
one VERY IMPORTANT THING about ponds ...... after your husband gets done
building it, complete with all the oops and ouch and all manner of things that
go with that .... IT IS NOT OK for you to say "Now, that's great honey, but can
you move it a little bit to the right so I can see how it looks over there?">
This is really a great website and this is the second time ya'll have helped me.
<It's what we do and why we get the big bucks, Angela! (actually we don't get
the big bucks. Or even the little, tiny bucks (although we do sometimes get to
take the recyclables home after a company party) we just do this because we
enjoy helping people like you!>
At the start, one of them had the swollen eyes and was really sick and ya'll
helped me pull her thru.
Thanks so much.
Angela
<You are most welcome.>
<Now the reason I don't think you should try to make a nesting box inside the
aquarium is because it's about 300 ways of being messy and it rarely if ever
works out. It's unlikely that she's gravid (with eggs) at this young age and
even if she is it will probably be spring before she lays and by then you'll
have the pond.>
<Meanwhile .. right here on my desk is a half finished article on keeping
sliders and other water turtles outside in ponds and I promise you that I will
get off my big, fat, lazy butt and finish it and publish it here before the end
of January -- and part of that article will be how to provide nesting sites! It
you don't see it by Feb 1, please write back and ask for it, OK?>
<Darrel><<I will! RMF>>
Turtle egg in tank
12/12/07
Dear Crew,
<Hiya -- Darrel here>
I have a red ear slider that I got as a gift four years ago. She is in a 100
Gallon breeder tank, with a filter, light and heater. About two weeks ago I had
to change the water everyday because it had a really bad smell. She was be very
mean and hissing also at me she has never done this before. Then one day ago I
found a egg -that was broken. Is this regular behavior for them to be like this
with the smell?
<A lot of different questions there. Yes, a broken egg in the water can cause an
almost unbelievable smell. While I have no experience with any of MY Sliders
being any more or less snappy around egg laying time, it has been known to
happen.>
If so how often do they do this? Is it every year more or less?
<More or less being the operative, yes.>
She is 6 " -7" across and 8"-9" long.
<Nice size!>
<What you should do, at least now, is provide her an area to try to lay and bury
those eggs even though they're not likely to be fertile. I wouldn't try to do
this within the tank. Start with a mix of water and vermiculite in a shallow
Tupperware container until you have a soft mulch - (50-50 of each by weight not
volume!!!!! this is critical ... soft & moist like a piece of cake NOT soupy or
watery) place that container in the corner of a cardboard box and then place her
in there. If you give her some privacy she may decide to try to lay the
remaining eggs (if there are any). It's OK to leave her in the box even
overnight -- maybe even all day each day for a week except for 10 minutes a day
in the tank to drink & eat. If that doesn't work you may have to provide a more
complex and suitable next area.>
Turtle Egg Problems 12/9/07
Hi there,
<Hello - Darrel here>
A few weeks ago I got my red eared slider from a cousin, who kept her in poor
conditions (no UV light, water often dirty, fed raw chicken). She now has proper
environmental conditions here.
<Glad to hear that>
For the past week she has been in nesting mode and has laid several eggs but is
unable to lay the rest (at least 5, as seen in x-ray at vet). She seems
satisfied with nesting conditions (access to potting soil, plenty of warmth,
light etc) and her appetite is still robust. She is unresponsive to Oxytocin and
calcium injections.
<OK, she's having access to good veterinary care as well, congratulations. Are
you giving the injections or the vet? The only reason I ask is that I ran into
someone once who'd been sent home with Oxytocin that was administering the
injections in the front limbs as you would an antibiotic when it has to be
injected in the rear of the animal to be effective. Just a double check on that
detail>
Instead, she is excreting stringy material, some bright yellow, some pinkish or
red, from 1 to 3 cm in length. The yellow ones are more common. They are curly.
What are these? Embryos and yolk strings? Dead parasites (they do not move)?
<It's likely that they are the crushed/destroyed remnants of some eggs as well
as some dried blood from the process. This would indicate that the Oxytocin IS
working but that the eggs were just too old to move smoothly. Without
examination that would be my best guess.>
I'd rather try everything before we move on to surgery. Suggestions? Could an
infection be to blame? Does she just need more time? Problems from poor
nutrition at her prior home?
<All of the above can be playing a role. Many of the attributes from poor
conditions and diet linger and a few never go away. What you could do (in this
case ask the Vet to do) is to irrigate & flush the ova tract with fluid once a
day for a few days. Dried eggs stick to the tract as if they were glued in place
yet they will soften just a bit and it reduces the tearing of the duct walls.
Whether this will be any real benefit remains to be seen. If it were me, I
wouldn't delay the surgery because at this point there's nothing to be gained
from letting those eggs remain in place. Eventually they'll calcify and become
so attached to the duct walls that surgery would leave her unable to lay more
eggs>
Your comments are much appreciated!
<Let us know how it works out>
Red eared sliders: We had 5
babies - 11/26/07
Hi Bob, Boy do we have questions.
<Darrel here in for Bob today ... and wow do I have answers!><<Always a hoot
Darrel. RMF>>
We have a male and female set that are 7 yrs old. Several months ago our male
slider started being mean to our female.
<Staying out late, spending his paycheck and then telling her that her shell
looks fat?>
He chews on her and makes her bleed.
<Icky.>
We tried separating them and reuniting and she is still afraid of him.
<I'd be afraid of him too if he bit me and made me bleed! Yikes!>
Now, we just found 5 quarter size babies.
<Congrats!>
We have removed the father from the habitat.
<Kelly & Jeanie's Protective services!>
Now we think the mother is trying to eat her babies!! Would she do that??
<I've had the urge to eat MY kids from time to time .... or at least banish them
to a foreign land!>
What is our fathers problem??
<Esteem issues?>
What do we do?
<OK, now for the more serious stuff ......>
<Sliders are normally fairly social and colonial creatures and can get along
well in groups (although they don't NEED groups in any way) but a key to this is
a LARGE enough enclosure that they can get away from each other when conflicts
and aggression issues crop up. It's not possible to know what goes on in the
micro-little brains with any certainty but there are two separate issues. When
literally CRAMMED into small spaces, lets say 100 animals in room enough for 10,
their internal mode shifts to bare survival instinct -- they don't waste energy
fighting. On the other end of the spectrum, when you have 10 animals in enough
room for 20, you rarely if ever see this form of aggression because they seem to
have enough or [what we call] personal space and when any issues arise, they
have room to get away from each other completely. It's in-between those two
extremes that territorial issues arise when two animals "go at it" and the
weaker one simply can't get away. The other issue is simply that yes, there are
some animals that are just plain MEAN. You have three options here: 1) Rearrange
their enclosure so that all past notions of "territory" are tosses aside and
everything is new again. This slight of hand is an old aquarist's trick when
introducing a new fish into and established tank -- all the existing guys are so
busy trying to find what end is "up" to even notice the "new guy" until after
the new guy isn't new anymore. 2) Make a larger enclosure. Two Sliders of
breeding age/size should have at least a 100 gallon pond and much more space if
we're talking about an aquarium. 3) Is simply keep them separately or build a
partition.>
<Babies!!!!>
<I love hatching time. I collect the eggs and incubate them but every so often I
miss a few and it's always delightful to come across a baby when cleaning the
pond.>
<Yes, the adults will eat the babies. Nothing personal, you understand. Maybe
80% of the time they can get along fine but eventually a hungry adult will see
the baby as a quick meal and you'll lose them all. In the wild the babies avoid
the open water of the adults and hug the banks and the weed clutter where they
can hide. In captivity, yes, you need to keep the babies separately or (again)
in a partition in the bigger enclosure.>
Thanks,
Kelly & Jeanine
<Yer Welcome!>
Red Eared Pond Sliders Male Attacking Female
7/25/07
Dear Crew,
<Hiya! Darrel here>
We have had the male for 5 years and the Female for 3 years. The male had been
abused by his previous owner who allowed his dog to use him as a play toy, he
was completely white when we got him and he is healthy now. The problem is that
when we put him in with the female outside he attacks her. He has almost
completely removed her tail, today I had to physically separate them. If we put
them in the bath tub together he doesn't do this, it is only when they are in
the pond outside. Can you please help us they are wonderful pets and we would
hate to have to part with one of them but I am very scared that he is going to
do a lot more damage or maybe even kill her.
<That's a real possibility, Tammi. It sounds like you have a naturally
aggressive animal there.>
<When you take them out of their natural element and place them somewhere new,
their natural instincts for survival (combined with stress) override their
natural aggressive and territorial instincts. In the wild she'd have virtually
unlimited space to simply get away from him, so if your pond isn't big enough
for her to get away and stay away, you can either fence them off from each other
or find another home for him.>
Thanks Putzakitty
<I've been called MANY things, Tammi, but never Putzakitty. I'll have to think
about if I like it.>
Tammi
Cucumbers for Hatchling RES's 4/19/07
My RES Hatchlings LOVE Cucumbers they float on them and then when they get
hungry they munch on them and eat the center out of them. After reading some
sites about which veggies are good and not good for them - none mention
cucumbers... I was wondering if these are good for them or not. They sure seem
to love them. Jen
< Usually young turtles prefer a meatier diet when they are younger. The
cucumbers are fine as long as they are getting plenty of protein in their diet
from commercial hatchling food, insects and worms.-Chuck>
Turtle Questions, RES sys., repro. - 04/04/2007
I have a few questions that I have been looking for answers for online and
am hoping that you can help.
I have 2 red-eared sliders that I have had for a year. I have a heat lamp, UV
light and an underwater heater.
I have noticed the past few days that the neck area on both turtles in scaly and
shedding - is this normal?
< As turtles grow some shedding of the skin is normal. FYI, If your UVB lamp is
over a year old you need to look into replacing it. Even though it still lights
up, the UV in the light has diminished and needs to be replaced every 12-18
months depending on the brand.>
Also, what should the water temp be? I have found ranges from 75-85 degrees,
and every time I go into the pet store, someone tells me something different.
< In the wild the warmest it probably would be is in the upper 60's to the lower
70's depending on what part of the country they are found in. This is the range
that I recommend. I rather have the water a little cooler than warmer. I think
when a turtle heats himself up on a basking site and then dives back into the
water that the temperature shock helps control parasites.>
Lastly, do I need an area with dirt for the turtles? I have read about rocks,
floating logs, etc. I do have 3 places where they can be dry, just not dirt. I
read that females need dirt to lay eggs, and will not lay eggs if they become
pregnant and cannot find a place to bury it. Should I have dirt 'in case', I
have no idea the sex of these turtles. Thank you so much!! Karen
< Female turtle are larger than the males. Male turtles usually have longer
tails and longer front claws. A gravid female turtle needs a sandy area to dig a
pit and lay her eggs. If no area is available then she will just expel them in
the water where they will be eaten.-Chuck>
Baby Turtle Being Overfed 4/2/07
My hatchling RES, about an inch long, must have possibly eaten a whole
pellet (about a centimeter and a half long) usually I break them up into smaller
more manageable pieces, but I came home yesterday to find a huge poop in the
tank, usually they are about 2-3 millimeters long and small, this one was larger
than the pellets, in both length (about 2 cm) and diameter. I noticed Fred's
cloaca (I think that's the right term) was huge and looked stretched
out. Should I be worried? (I know gross question, but I'm really worried it was
like an organ or something)
< A prolapsed colon is caused from an extreme bowl movement that has traumatized
the area.>
They have everything they need and are happy and healthy otherwise. 20 gallon
tank (for now, while they are babies, I will upgrade as they grow), ZooMed
turtle dock, basking light w/ UVA/UVB at 90 degrees, water temp at 75, filter,
etc. I feed them guppies (which they are not very good at catching. any
suggestions on slower feeder fish?),
< Feeder fish are not great food for little turtles.>
tiny Ramshorn snails,
< They may have a problem passing the shells and contributing to the condition
you are so concerned about.>
occasional red meat, Gammarus pellets, and offer leafy greens although they
don't even recognize them as food. They've got fake plants to hide in and a
cuttlebone for calcium. Am I missing anything?? Thanks in advance, your site has
helped with so much already.
< I would recommend ZooMed Hatchling Aquatic Turtle Food as a base diet and add
the other things as treats. The vegetables will be more important in their diet
when they get older. The key to feeding turtles is to watch them while you are
feeding them. At first they act like they have never eaten before. Soon they
slow down as their belly begins to fill up. You should stop feeding them when
they start to slow down. Never leave food in the tank for them to eat later.
When they start to move around and hunt for food then they should be fed
again.-Chuck>
Aggressive Female RES – 2/25/07
For the past several years I've owned two red-eared sliders. I believe
from what I've read one is female and one is male. In the past, the female
tended to be a bully, but on the whole they coexisted nicely in the same 50
gallon tank for years until now. I just noticed what I thought to be a sore on
the foot of the male. I attempted to brush it, thinking it was fungus or such,
however it started to bleed and I realized that it was a healing wound. When I
returned them to their tank I watched for a while and noticed the female
attacking the male, particularly the healing wound area and the other foot.
She was actually attacking the foot of the male. Why all of a sudden?
< Could be pregnant.>
Is she suffering from PMS?
< It is getting to be spring in some parts of the country. A pregnant female
turtle doesn't want anyone around when she lays her eggs.>
Do I have to keep them separated all of a sudden? Which will be a problem
due to space limitations. Thank you. Trish
<Get a tank divider but supply a basking site for the male too. Try putting them
back together in a couple of months. Sometimes the female like her space and
will continue to harass the other turtle.-Chuck>