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FAQs About Red Ear Slider Turtle Disease/Health 1 Related Articles:
The Care and Keeping of the
Red Eared Slider,
Trachemys scripta elegans by
Darrel Barton,
Turtle eye diseases;
Recognising and treating eye diseases in pet turtles by Neale Monks,
So your turtle has the Flu? Recognising and
treating respiratory infections in pet turtles by Neale Monks,
The Care and Keeping of the
Red Eared Slider,
Trachemys scripta elegans by
Darrel Barton,
Red Ear
Sliders, Turtles, Amphibians, Red
Eared Slider Care, Shell Rot in
Turtles,
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Disease/Health 2, RES Disease 3,
RES Health 4, & Shell Rot,
Turtle
Disease 1, Turtle Disease 3, Shell Rot,
Turtle Respiratory Disease,
Turtle Eye Disease, &
Sliders 1,
Sliders 2,
Red Eared Slider Identification,
RES Behavior, RES
Compatibility, RES Selection,
RES Systems, RES
Feeding, RES Reproduction, Turtles in
General:
Turtles, Turtle Identification,
Turtle Behavior,
Turtle Compatibility,
Turtle Selection,
Turtle Systems,
Turtle Feeding,
Turtle Disease,
Turtle Disease 2,
Turtle Reproduction,
Amphibians, Other
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Turtle Getting Lighter
Hola...I have 2 baby RES... I got them about a month and a half ago.
They're in a 10 gallon tank with a filter, heater and basking spot.
One of them seems to have been getting lighter and lighter in color as
the weeks go by. They were both originally the same color. I could
barely tell them apart at first besides looking at their size and shell
pattern. As the weeks have gone by, one seems to be getting lighter in
the shell and on its skin.
He is healthy as far as behavior goes He goes out to bask in the sun
often, he is the more aggressive turtle and very social with people.
These are my first turtles so I don't know if it's because of shedding,
rot or if it's just normal. Help pleeeeease.
< If it was something your were doing or environmental factors then I
think it would be affecting both of them. At this point I would just
assume that it is genetics unless you observe anything abnormal.-Chuck>
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Turtle With Bump On The Neck 9/22/06
Hi, I recently bought a tiny red eared slider turtle and he
seems to be doing fine. However, he has a strange bump on his neck
that is yellowish and barely raised. It almost looks like a growth
or fungus of some kind.
What is this? Sara
< Could be some trauma to the neck that has gotten infected. Keep
the tank clean by doing water changes and clean the filter often.
Add a Dr Turtle Sulpha Block to the water to treat the infection.
You may need to place some Repti Wound Healing Aid directly on the
spot.-Chuck>
Sick Little Turtle With Soft Shell 9/6/06
Hello, I have a sick little red eared slider. I'm not sure what is
wrong with him. I looked at some articles on shell rot and I can't seem to
find an answer. His shell is extremely soft, but I don't see any visible
cracks in his shell. Also, on his underbelly there are two red sores almost
like he is bleeding internally. He is very inactive, only swimming and
eating maybe an hour a day. Please if there is anything we can do to help
save him I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you so much for your help.
< The basking site should be at least 85 F. The heat from the light helps
harden his shell and builds vitamins. Add a Zoo Med Calcium Block to add
calcium to his diet and add a Zoo Med Sulpha Block to the water to keep the
bacteria from eating away at his shell. The heat lamp will help. Make sure
it is one made for turtles to bask.-Chuck>
RES With Shell Problems - 08/25/06
Well I have to two red eared sliders about 5 inches in length. One of them
has pinkish spots only underneath the shell, its been like that for few months
now. Is it a problem? or is that normal?
< This is a bacterial infection that attacks the shell. Keep the water clean,
Add a Dr. Turtle Sulpha Block to the water and treat the areas with Repti Wound
Healing Aid. It may get worse if not treated.-Chuck>
Red Eared Slider's Skin 8/24/06
<Hi, Pufferpunk here>
I have 3 red eared sliders... two are about 2 inches long and one is a new
turtle that was given to us, and is about 4-6 inches long. They live in a ten
gallon tank with a filer.. Ever since the new turtle came, the other turtles
have gotten some sort of transparent mucus film on their necks... I was afraid
it might be a major problem, but they seem fine.. Is there anyway to get rid of
it?
<It sounds to me like the turtles may just be shedding their skin. That tank is
way to small for all 3 of your turtles. It would do for only one at that
size. I suggest a 55g tank for all 3, ASAP! That way, you can add a
nice-sized filter to it. Eventually, as adults, they will need 50g ea, totaling
a 150g tank. If you have no filtration on there now, I suggest 100% water
changes on that tank daily, until you upgrade their tank. ~PP>
Please help, Concerned of my Red Eared Slider 8/16/06
On a couple occasions I have noticed that my red eared slider has this big
black thing coming out from his butt, It almost looks like poo but he never
releases it and before I know it its gone. Its not in the tank so I assume that
it went up inside him? Is this normal? or is something wrong with my turtle.
Please Help!
Zee, TX
<Sounds like a "prolapsed colon". Please search this term with the word "turtle"
in front, on WWM, the Net. Bob Fenner>
RES Shell Trouble, not searching, reading 8/11/06
Hello my son has a RES turtle and he is only the size of a mini pancake he
has proper lighting (I suppose) its the light from the tank and I notice when
cleaning out his tank that his shell toward the end of his tail is starting to
get soft. He gets his tank cleaned once a week and he has plenty of area to get
out of the sun to bask. We are fairly new at this but he is growing and eating
but I don't know what else to do? PLEASE help HAWK get his health back. Thanks
Tammy
TAMMY RAY STEVENS
<Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/turtshellrot.htm
and here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/resdisfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
RES Eating Rocks... Reading 8/4/06
Dear Sir/Madam,
<Rosie>
My name is Rosie and I am an adult female red eared slider. Recently I have
developed a habit of eating stones occasionally. I know that this can be normal
for turtles but the stones in my tank are slate chippings and some can be quite
big. Is this harmful in any way?
Thanks,
Rosie
<Can be if the stones themselves are actually ingested. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/redearsliders.htm
and the linked files above. Your turtle may have something lacking in its diet
and/or environment... Bob Fenner>
Turtle Shedding His Skin - 07/30/06
Greetings. Two days ago I took apart my turtle tank and cleaned everything
as usual. I refilled it with distilled water, as always, but today I have
noticed that my red-eared slider has thin, whispy, white spider web-type fronds
coming off of any place his shell doesn't cover. His shell seems to be clear of
any type of growth, but these whispy white things have already filled up the new
water and I'm worried about my turtle. His "skin" itself is not discolored; only
the part that seems to be peeling off. I have a small painted turtle in the same
tank who seems to be doing just fine. I've kept them both together for several
years and this is the first time I have
encountered this problem. I've looked all over your (extremely informational!)
site but can't seem to find anything like it. The RES has
been acting a little more agitated lately, but I thought he was just begging for
more food, as they both get more active in the summer months anyway. Please let
me know what I should do; I've discovered that most pet stores in this area
really don't know anything about the animals they are selling and can't answer
any but the most common questions.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your speedy reply! ~DRR
<Your turtle is shedding his skin. The warmer summer temps have made him more
active and he is growing as expected. The old skin may even fungus up but this
will not hurt the turtle. get a fish net and remove any excess skin from the
water.-Chuck>
Closed eye RES 7/26/06
Hello,
<Hi there>
I have three baby RES. One of them is much smaller than the other two (they are
about the same age).
The Smaller RES has closed the eyes for over 3 weeks and I have been using the
Repti turtle eye drops almost every day but no
help. Is it already blind. If I bring it to a vet. will he/she just tell me to
put more eye drop?? Do you recommend any
reptile vet in Brooklyn , New York city area???
<Does there system have purposeful heating? A dry basking area? Please read
here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/ressysfaqs.htm
and the linked files above... Now! And use the Kingsnake link there to locate a
specialty Veterinarian in your area. Bob Fenner>
Turtle Still With Bad Eyes 7/25/06
Dear Crew, I hope all of you are enjoying good health. I wrote about my sick
Red Eared Slider who had swollen eyes and difficulty seeing. You guys advised
Neomycin eye drops, Vitamin A Deficiency Eye Drops, including Vitamin A in the
diet and washing his eyes with saline water. I tried including carrots and
peaches in his diet but he only eats cabbage and that too very rarely.
< Try kale and spinach.>
He is still active and even looked better for a while. I couldn't get my hands
on the ReptiMed eye drops. Now he hardly opens his eyes and cannot even see his
food. I pushed his food under his nose today so he's eaten that but he's stopped
responding to this feed-container like he used to. I suspect that, that is
because he can't see it. A local pharmacy makes Vitamin A fortified multivitamin
syrup as needed and I wanted to find out what strength should I order that for?
< 5000 International Units of Vitamin A per pound of body weight. Either
injected or administered orally with some sugar water and cod liver oil.>
And is it okay if I force-feed him that with a dropper?
< Sure.>
He seems to enjoy basking in the lamp-light but tries to hide when I put him
directly in the sun. Should I just let him soak up the lamp-light?
< Make sure that the lamp light contains UVB A and UVB B. If the lamp is old
then replace it with a new one. The basking site needs to be up around 85 F.>
And I can put him under the lamp without water, right?
< He needs to get into the water when he gets too hot so he can cool off.>
He seems to like it a lot.
< He knows that he need to get hot to get cured.>
I hope I have included everything that is required. Please advice as to what I
should do next. I repeat that I do not have a reptile vet available in this
country. Waiting anxiously for your reply, I remain with kind regards. Sidra
Small Red Eared Slider With Blister on Arm 7/14/06
Hello, I have a baby res that's about the size of a half dollar. When I
first got him/her it seemed ok but I noticed about a week ago that (s)he has
this.....blister looking thing on its right "armpit" it looks like (s)he might
have hit something and dislocated its shoulder.....I dunno know......I know that
its painful when something touches it because it will pull its head all the way
in and closes its right eye. it doesn't seem to hinder the turtle though, it
still holds its own during feeding with another slightly bigger turtle. I read
somewhere that putting some Neosporin on the wound might help and it
doesn't...another thing is it seems to "yawn" a lot while underwater....is it
taking a drink or does that mean it might be getting a respiratory
infection? pls help. KK
< With more than one turtle the problem could be bacterial infection or a bite
to the arm that got infected. Check the basking site and make sure that it gets
up to at least 85 F. Keep the water very clean. Give the turtle a dip in Zoo Med
Turtle Sulpha Dip and put a Dr Turtle Sulpha Block in the water. Get some Repti
Wound Healing Aid from Zoo Med and treat the wound according to the
directions.-Chuck.>
Chalky White Turtles 7/14/06
Dear Wet Web Media Crew, First I want to thank you guys for the wonderful
website you have provided! Secondly, I need your help! I am currently the owner
of two red-eared
sliders, both living in the same aquarium. My largest one is about 2 3/4 in.
long from the top of the shell to the bottom. The smaller one is...well,
smaller. However, both turtles have a white chalky-like substance that shows up
when they bask in the sun. I have read that I need to get an antibiotic
for their shells, but I do not know what kind or type I should get. Also, The
larger one has light brown spots on the bottom of it. The spots are like
shadowing the designs on the bottom part of the shell. Is this bad? Do you know
what it is? What can I do about their shells? Thank you for your help, Jamie D.
<The white substance could be a simple calcium carbonate precipitate from very
hard alkaline water. Like the lime type substance you find around a tea kettle.
Softer water would probably eliminate some of this. Oils and fats from the foods
float on the water and are picked up on the turtles shells as they leave the
water. Keeping the water clean will help. Soft cheesy spots on the shell are
caused by bacteria. The areas need to be cleaned out and treated with an
antibiotic. Do a google search for shell rot. If you do not find any cures then
a trip to the vet will be required.-chuck.>
Turtle With Swollen Eyes In Pakistan 7/14/06
Dear WWM, We have a red-eared slider who is approximately 4 inches across
his shell. We think he has an eye infection because he keeps pawing his eyes and
opens them very reluctantly. And they look swollen. He hasn't eaten since
yesterday. We don't have reptile vets in Pakistan so we took him to a pet shop
because we didn't know what else to do. He told us to put him in warm, saline
water for a couple of days. Now I know sliders are fresh water creatures so how
safe is that?
< A little salt water has some medicinal qualities.>
We put him in saline warm water yesterday and he's been very restless this
morning. And right now he had turned over on his back!!! He still very active
and now we have put him back in normal water because I don't think saline water
is a good idea. We are keeping the water warm and are keeping him under a lamp
which contains an energy-saver bulb. It's keeping his basking site sufficiently
warm. (87F) We feed
him a diet of turtle pellets which contain white fish meat, guard, wheat
albumen, cod liver oil, lecithin, calcium, yeast and vitamins though it doesn't
say which ones. I have been through all the threads on your site and they all
state the use of some eye-drops which are not available in this country. Please
advice us of a home remedy. We are really worried. Is Sunday going to die?
Please advice!! Thank you. Carmina and Sidra, Karachi, Pakistan< The problem is
caused by a lack of vitamin A. Get some vitamins and add them to the turtle
food. Treat the eyes four times a day with neomycin. Try weak warm solutions of
salty water or with boric acid in solution to flush out the eyes. Zoo Med makes
Repti Turtle Eye Drops that may be available on the internet.-Chuck>
Turtle With Bump On Neck 7/7/06
I have 3 red ear sliders , they have been happy friendly, healthy growing
guys for over a year now. But I noticed that one of them has a bump on the side
of his head . And it came up with in a day or 2. He is still eating and swimming
and acting fine. What could this be ? I should tell you also this is the guy
we've named nosey because he climbs on top of the filter and lays. Could he of
gotten to close to the light or burned his self climbing?
<Turtles are usually pretty smart and don't stay out in the heat too long.
Usually these things relate to trauma to the area. I am thinking that maybe
another turtle may have gotten a nip on his neck and it got infected. So look
for and wounds to the area. Another idea may be an injury to the throat area
from trying to eat something too big or with sharp edges like the fin of a
feeder fish. make sure that the basking site is at least 85 F. If things don't
get better within a week then I would have him looked at by a vet to be
sure.-Chuck>
Turtle Not Doing Well 7/7/06
Hello, My parents own a 5-1/2 year old red eared slider. He resides in a
Pyrex bowl in luke warm water. He is slightly smaller then a woman's hand.
Yesterday, my mother noticed that not only would the turtle not eat, he was all
the way in his shell and you could not even see his nose. Any comments or
suggestions would be appreciated. I look forward to your response. Thank you.
Liz
<The basking area should be at least 85 F. He may be too cold. The conditions
you describe don't sound very good for a turtle and I am surprised he has lived
this long. An adult turtle needs room to swim, clean water and proper lighting.
You have mentioned none of these. I am afraid your turtle is not well and I
would recommend that you take him to a vet.-Chuck>
Toads and a Dead Turtle 07/04/06
I caught a bunch of nickel sized toads. at least I think they're toads, they
don't have webbed feet. They're brownish with orangey
red bumps on its back and a white underbelly. I found them in my lawn while I
mowed it. What kind of toads are they and what should I feed them?
<Sorry, I need to know where you are from to help you ID a toad. generally that
are terrestrial and eat all kinds of insects. They are great for the garden and
eat lots of destructive pests.>
While I'm at it I also have a red eared slider turtle that died, it was just so
weak and it opened its mouth and sometimes made a kind of croaking noises,
it was all limp and just laid around in his tank before he died. What was wrong
with him and what should I do to prevent it from happening to my other turtles?
William
< Your turtle had a respiratory infection from being too cold. The basking spot
should be at least 85 F. Turtles need to heat up to fight infections.-Chuck>
Turtle Won't Eat and has Puffy Eyes 6/20/06
Hi. I have my baby turtle Mertal Donotelo, he is a Texas red ear slider, and
I think he has a eye infection based on the description in your site. Is there
any way to treat him without taking him to the vet? Is there an OTC medicine I
could get for him? Will he die? Also, he is not eating that I can see, and he
stays on his rock all day. Is there something wrong? Please help. Thank You
Nate' Greer-Parr
<Check the temp of the basking site . It should be up around 85F or higher.
Treat the eyes with Repti Turtle Eye Drops. If he does not get better then he
will starve. Can't eat what he can't see. After his eyes clear up and he starts
to eat try feeding him some insects and washed earthworms.-Chuck>
Turtle Not Moving, Too Cold 6/11/06
Hi I just got a baby RES turtle, she's a girl, and I went to check on her
awhile ago and she was all tucked inside her shell and when I picked her up she
wouldn't come out!! After about 10 minutes she had moved from where I had put
her but I am concerned that I am doing something wrong! I am buying a
thermometer and heater for her tank tomorrow because I am afraid she is too cold
but I am not sure!! I hope that u can answer my questions!
Signed, a concerned parent.
< The basking site should be at least 85 F. Check that you have the proper
lighting and that the basking site is warm enough. Turtles need to go between
hot and cold to stay healthy. Too hot or too cold is not good.-Chuck>
Turtle With Infected Cheeks 6/9/06
Hello, I have had a red ear slider turtle for 3yrs now and he was doing
well till just recently. He has a big red puss looking sore on both sides of
his head near his checks. I have never noticed them before and now they are
there. The sores really hurt him, but he is still eating like he usually
does he just isn’t sociable anymore. What are the sores and how do I get rid
of them? Thanks so much, Audrey Kerr
<Probably some thing he ate or tried to eat damaged his jaws and they got
infected. I would recommend that you take him to a vet for examination and
proper treatment. As turtles get older they require more vegetable matter in
their diet and less meat. In their attempt to get more vegetable matter they
bite at the algae that grows on rocks and ornaments. Sometimes they bite off
more than they can chew and it is possible that this what may have
happened.-Chuck>
Turtle With Lumps On His Jaws - 06/07/2006
I got a RES about two years ago when it was just a baby. He was only a
little bigger than a quarter. He is now about four inches long, maybe a little
smaller. We believe its a boy but he is still young. His name is Beanie. I read
a lot about them and got the proper lighting and caging. Beanie is in a 40g
Breeder until he gets bigger. The temp is at about 78 degrees. I was told at the
pet store the 40g will be great for him for about 6 to 10 years depending on how
fast he grows. For the first year I fed him once a day and then when he started
looking a little chubby I cut it down to every other day. He has plenty of fish
to chase around and basks frequently. Then about 8 months ago he started to
develop lumps on each side of his head. We assumed he was growing in his adult
jaws. This still might be the case however, the lumps grew bigger as the months
went on and they each stick out about a centimeter on each side. I know I should
take him to the vet and I will. I just was wondering if this is something that
is normal with growing turtles, he is the first one I have gotten. I have read
books and many internet sites but nothing I can find has told me anything about
the lumps. A friend of my brothers who has had many turtles said I might be
feeding to much. I feed him about 6-10 Freeze Dried Jumbo krill however a large
African clawed frog eats a few and I have a Koi and two big gold fish that will
snatch at them. Then about 5 regular size gold fishes. He eats the fish food
that floats around. I've tried giving him lettuce and carrots but he doesn't
touch them. I give him a few ReptoMin sticks, and Nutrafin turtle Gammarus
pellets. when I go to the pet store about every other week I will get tiny
guppy's for the frog and Beanie to Catch. I will get crickets when I have time.
I don't know if that is too much He is done eating in about 5 to 10 minutes.
Thanks, Mary
< Growing turtles that are properly fed do not develop the jaw structures that
you have described. It could be a vitamin or mineral imbalance. A vet will take
x-rays and find out for sure.-Chuck>
Chemicals, Breeding Green Terrors, Fungus on RES's Neck - 05/29/06
Hi crew. I am happy to be back after a long break to my fish hobby.
Now I have many questions for you.
1)There is a lake near my house which was polluted by chemicals
nearly 8-10yrs back. Now I find a lot of daphnia and mosquito fish in
the lake. Can I feed this to my fish?
< Chemicals is a very broad term. Depending on the contamination levels and the
chemicals the threat could be gone by now. Other chemicals can last for years in
very low concentrations. These invertebrates could each contain a very minute
level of the chemicals. As you fish eats these invertebrates the concentration
of the chemicals may build up in the fish's body and cause health problems for
your fish. In general I do not use any water for my fish that I would not drink
myself. This way I know the water is safe.>
I also fear that there are hook worms (Argulus) present along with the daphnia.
Can I feed this to my fishes?
< Fish generally will not eat Argulus.>
Is there any way I can remove the Argulus?
Medications used to kill the Argulus will kill the daphnia too.>
2) My green terrors breed very often but the problem is that the male is not
helpful in guarding the spawn and the female keeps eating the fry. How can I
hatch the eggs away from the parents?
<Give the parents something to lay the eggs on that can be removed from the
tank. If they lay the eggs on the side of the glass then there is not too much
you can do. Get a 5 gallon tank and set it up with a heater and an airstone.
When the fish lay the eggs you can remove 5 gallons from the main tank and put it in the 5 gallon tank. Place the rock with the eggs in the 5 gallon tank and
set the heater for 80 F. Place the airstone next to the eggs to keep a current
going. Add some methylene blue to the water to prevent fungus. After three days
the eggs should hatch and the fry will fall to the bottom of the tank. Remove
the rock. Three days later the fry should be free swimming and will need to be
fed baby brine shrimp, microworms and finely crushed flake food.>
3)My RES turtle appears to be growing fungus around its neck and on its shell.
How can I treat this?
<Fungus generally feeds on dead tissue. I assume that the turtle is shedding his
skin and the fungus is simply attached to the skin that is sloughing off. Do a
big water change, try to rinse off the dead skin and add a Dr. Turtle Sulfa
Block by Zoo Med to inhibit the fungus growth.>
I will be very thankful if you help me out. thanking you in advance.
< Next time you need to rewrite your questions to include proper punctuation or
you questions will not be answered. These questions/replies are posted to help
other aquarists/hobbyists and we need to be very clear so not to mislead others
trying to save their animals.-Chuck>
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Turtle With Skin Lesion - 05/20/2006
Hi, I've had my res for about 13 years now without any problems Last
week I noticed this spot under it's mouth. I know it's hard to see in
the picture but it looks like a few layers of skin are gone. I thought
I'd leave it alone for a while but it seems to be getting redder and
bigger. The turtle is acting normally and is eating fine. Do you have
any idea what this can be?
< Sometimes an abrasive substrate can irritate the lower jaw area as the
turtle forages for food. If the other turtles are experiencing a pinkish
skin along with the soar then their may be a bacterial problem with the
container. I would toughly clean the tank and add a Dr. Turtle Sulfa
Block to inhibit the bacteria. Check the temp. of the basking site and
make sure it is up to at least 85 F.>
Also, I have two other turtles in the same aquarium and they all seem to
have a pink tint to their skin. I've only noticed this after I moved. Is
there something wrong with the water? What can I do?
< Check the water at a local fish store for nitrates. High nitrates may
be coming directly from your tap and can contribute to bacterial
problems-Chuck> |
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Sick Turtle Needs help - 05/20/2006
Hi- I have a few questions I am hoping you can answer. I bought two red ear
sliders hatchlings about 2 months ago- one didn't make it and the other one is
still alive- but not doing well. I have everything set up in the tank- the
heater, the water is clean, the basking lamp, but he rarely opens his eyes- he
doesn't swim much, and he has some white stuff on his front foot- I REALLY want
him to make it and be a healthy turtle- I am going to find a vet tomorrow but
was hoping in the meantime you can give me some answers- I love this little guy
and don't want to see him suffer. Thank you- Heidi
< Check the temperature of the basking site with a thermometer. It should be at
least 85 F. turn down the heater to 70 F. Get some Repti Turtle Eye Drops for
his eyes. Wipe the white stuff off his front foot with a cotton ball. It may be
a fungus. Use Repti Turtle Sulpha Dip to treat the problem foot. Next time don't
wait so long for these problems to get worse.-Chuck>
Water Temp For A Water Turtle - 05/20/2006
Thanks so much- and to be honest its not that I waited too long. I actually
talked to 4 different pet store managers who handle res and they made it seem
like this problem was no big deal. And where I live there are 2 exotic vets and
they work once a week!!! So I have been reading everything but wanted to ask
your staff- you seem the best expert. So I will try what you said- thanks so
much for responding-- But I just have to ask- the water temp should be 70???
Everywhere says 80 ish and I just want to double check that is what you mean
before I change it-
< Change it to 70 F and here is why. These turtles are common in the waters of
central North America. The water temps there very to the low 30's during the
winter to maybe a maximum of 70 in shallow sunny areas during the summer. If a
turtle gets too cold it simply comes out to bask. Its body temp can rise to
probably 90 F. When it dives back into the water it quickly loses its heat. This
big temperature change helps to control disease causing bacteria. It is like
you getting sick and developing a fever. You body temp goes up just a few
degrees and you get better. This is one the reasons that when turtles are
properly set up they live illness free for years.-Chuck>
Turtle Can't Sink - 5/18/2006
Hi, I'm hoping you can help me. I have two little red eared sliders that my
brother won at a street fair last summer. We have them 9 months, in a 20 gal
long tank. Plenty of swimming and diving room in warm water, nice basking area
and good filtration. We take them out to feed them ( feeders, tuna, cooked
meat), they would not eat the Reptomin so my husband blended it with some grapes
and lettuce and they nibble on it now.
The problem is one has stopped eating. It's been several weeks now. At first
it would nibble on the food, not it's usual eating manners, then it looked like
it was grabbing food and spitting it out. Now, it won't eat anything and is
getting very thin. It's lethargic, doesn't swim ( just floats on the water or
lays on land, doesn't look like it can dive). I took it to the vet on Monday,
it doesn't have any of the typical sickness signs. She thought it might have a
blockage and gave it some baby oil as a laxative, it discharge a little mushy,
yellow poop but that's it. What can I do? The poor thing looks like it is
starving to death. Help! Thank you, Rosemary
< When a turtle has trouble sinking it is usually a respiratory infection and
the lungs fill up with fluid. Check the temperature of the basking site. It
should be up around 85 to 90 F. If not, move the source closer to the site or
get a bigger light. Have you vet check with another veterinarian that is
familiar with turtle diseases. Go to Kingsnake.com to try and find a vet that is
experienced in reptiles.-Chuck>
RES is Not Growing - 5/17/2006
Hi! My sister brought me two red eared sliders from Florida over spring
break. They were roughly the same size (1.5-2 in) and both seemed to do okay when
I gave them a heat lamp, UV lamp and filter. I feed them in a separate tank, but
together. Recently I have noticed that one has gotten much bigger and darkened
tremendously in colour. He eats like crazy and is very healthy. The other turtle
has not grown at all, and hides a lot, wedging himself under rocks. He wasn't
eating, so I started separating them to eat. He seems to be eating a little
more, but mostly just the baby shrimp by ReptoMin and not his pellet food. He is
also growing an extra scute that looks like it has wedged itself in-between two
of his regular ones. This scute and the one above seem to be lifting in the
lower left corner. Is he going to be okay? Carrie
<Usually when two little turtles are placed together in the same tank, one
becomes dominant and other becomes very stressed. The dominant one grows like
crazy, gets all the good food and the best basking spot. Over time the dominant
one continues to get bigger and smaller one gets worse and worse. Many people
think that turtles need companionship so they get two and end up in the same
situation. I recommend that you separate them. Hard to say what may be causing
the abnormal growth on the shell. The constant wedging may have damaged the
shell and caused the abnormal growth. Separate the turtles and see if the shell
starts to go back to a normal shape.-Chuck>
Baby RES Death - 05/16/2006
Yesterday I decided to put my baby RES outside in a big bucket so he could
swim around. This was the first time we had done so. Normally we keep him
indoors in a pie pan because he is so tiny (1.5 inches). It was about 88 degrees
outside and we left him out in the sun for a few hours thinking he would be ok
and have fun swimming around in the bucket. When we went back to check on him he
would not move. We continued to check back on him to see if he was alive or
dead. A few hours later his eyes had sunk in and turned a dark purple color and
his nostrils closed up.
We assume he is dead at this point. Today will be "Dude's" funeral:( Do you
have any idea what could have caused his death?
< Baby RES's can handle some heat for awhile but need to be able to cool
themselves down but immersing themselves in cooler water. I think the water got
too hot and his system shut down.-Chuck>
Turtle Is Really Bloated 5/2/06
I have a red ear slider for a few years now, he seems to be sick. It seems
like he is having trouble swimming, Has not been eating like he use to. It
looks like he is swollen, and that keeps him from getting around. He is always
out of the water, which is odd for him. I never see him go to the bottom of the
tank anymore either. I have another turtle, I got them at the same time, they
have been together since day one. The other one is still doing all the things
they both use to do. but he doesn't look swollen. He kinda reminds me of a inner
tube floating in the water. He just floats there when he is in the water. Can
you please tell what might be wrong? thank you, Really concerned mom in P.A.
< I suspect that your turtle has a respiratory infection and has fluid built up
in its lungs and tissues. take it to a vet that knows turtles. Go to
Kingsnake.com for a possible vet recommendation. In the meantime check the
basking site. It should be up around 85 to 95 F. Check it with a
thermometer.-Chuck>
Turtle With Possible Parasite Problem 5/2/06
Hi WWM Crew: I have a red eared slider who is having some trouble. He has
developed a puffy lump on the back of his neck. Although I checked all of the
other
posts, my situation seems a little different. It seems that this swelling is
moving into one of his legs. Not as badly, but there is still some minor
swelling. The one on his neck is humongous, and I am afraid that it is going to
pop or something. He is active though, and his eyes are clear. He
has also been basking regularly, but not excessively. Also, in the past day,
his poop looks different. It looks like little tiny worms, but they
are not moving. Following some of the other advice that I read on your website,
I bought the sulfa dip, and I am on the 2nd day of the treatment.
I am really, really concerned. I have combed the internet for answers, and I'm
desperate to help him get better. Thank you so much for your time,
Helma
< Take a fecal sample to a vet to check for parasites. After a proper diagnosis
is made they can administer the correct medication. Deworming medication for
turtles is different than medication used for treating other reptiles.-Chuck>
Turtle With Possible Parasite Problem II 5/2/06
I think that the worm like things might have come from the Dr. Turtle that
has been in the water.
< I doubt it. Thousands of these have been sold without any "worms" being
observed.-Chuck>
Turtle With Possible Parasite Problem III 5/4/06
Hello, I contacted Dr. Turtle and they have said that it was probably debris
that got into the sulfa block, and that no parasites could survive the cooking
process. Any other suggestions as to why my turtle has a puffy neck? It looks
like a humongous fluid filled blister. Thanks so much for your time,
Helma
< Take your turtle to a vet! NOW! There is nothing we can say or do to make
your turtle better.-Chuck>
Turtle is Sick May Not be Pregnant - 04/27/06
I bought a male red eared slider about two months ago. It seemed healthy. I
also bought a soft-shell turtle. The soft shelled turtle was biting the red eared
slider so I sold it and bought a female red eared slider. The first week she was
fine and she ate and swam, but now its been about two weeks and she stays on the
land all day and won't eat. She is drooling and about every ten minutes or so
she moves her leg over the land a few times (scratches it with her back claw) and
makes a strange noise like a cough or sneeze. A vet told me to take the plastic
cover off of the UVB lamp because she may have a vitamin deficiency but this
makes no sense because the other turtles were fine and it hasn't done anything
after two days. I believe my turtle is pregnant from other info I've gotten. What
should I do. Please respond ASAP. Thank you. Paul S
< Your turtle has a respiratory infection that needs to be treated. Make sure that
the basking site gets up to at least 85 F. Check it with a thermometer. Move the
light closer or get a bigger bulb to increase the heat. The strange noises are
fluid in the lungs. Antibiotics are really needed. Your turtle may still be
pregnant but this needs some immediate attention.-Chuck>
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Little Turtle With Shell Problems - 04/24/2006
Hi, I have a baby red eared slider, and I recently noticed that a
piece of his/her shell was missing near his rear end. My parents said
(s)he would be fine, and the won't take him/her to the vet. For about an
hour he was just laying in the water (I took some water out so the
missing part could dry a bit and not have as much as a chance of
infection) but now (s)he is moving around as (s)he normally would. What
should I do? (I included a picture.)
<Your photo is not very clear. Make sure that the basking site gets up
to at least 85 F. The heat helps cure any shell infections. The light
should also contain some UVA and UVB light for good vitamin and mineral
absorption. ZooMed makes an excellent little book for water turtles. It
is inexpensive and has lots of very good information to keep your turtle
healthy. Ask you parents if they will get you the book. I would highly
recommend it.-Chuck> |
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Strange Turtle Death
Hello, I am new to this site and have found you FAQ's and informative links
extremely helpful and enlighten. My boyfriend and myself are the new proud
parents of 3 red ear sliders. We have had them for a month and a half and they
have over all been happy and healthy. They eat, swim, play, dig, hide, bask and
poop on a regular basis. However last night we cleaned the tank, changed the
filter, conditioned the water, put the calcium block and decorative plants back
and put the turtles back in the water. We stepped out for about 2 hours but
when we returned one of the turtles was deceased on the dock. His head was
raised as if he was basking and his eyes were open (but not bulging or cloudy)
with one leg stuck out (as usual). The other turtles seemed to be fine. Do you
have any idea what we did wrong or any suggestions for us? Thanks in advance, ~K
< Little turtles can be regular chow hounds. I would guess that he ate something
that got stuck in his throat and was trying to swallow it when he choked to
death. This may explain the extended neck as he tried to swallow. evaluate the
tank for things that they could Interpet as food.-Chuck>
Fat RES Turtle - 04/10/2006
Hi, thanks for taking my question. My Red Eared Slider seems to be quite
swollen all over his body. I bought him approximately 5 years ago from a
retailer without any previous issues. I've searched multiple other forums with
no other mentions of the issue. I found the attached picture on another site,
but with no explanation of the
cause. My Red Eared Slider's affliction is no where near as bad as the one
pictured, but I hoped it would give you an idea. Is he just overweight for
his shell or could it be something more serious like constipation? His appetite
hasn't changed and his behavior normal, I'm just a bit concerned.
Thanks much, Rob
< If the condition happen rather suddenly then I would think it was a disease
and consult a vet. It is has happened gradually then I think it is a dietary
issue and change over to a diet with additional vegetable matter and less
protein and see if that helps.-Chuck>
Turtle Shedding Its Skin 4/4/06
Hello, I purchased a RES about a month or two ago (4-5 inches) and I
have noticed that his skin is peeling. I have set up a 30 gallon tank, provided
plenty of basking and swimming room-for now. I was told by the pet shop to
clean
out the tank and use Mr. Turtle, so I did. However, the peeling has not
stopped. I also use a water conditioner. I have a 75W heat lamp and a 15 W
(25%)/UVB (2%) light. I have both lights set up for 12 hours a day, I was
told to
leave the heat lamp on, is this true? What else can I do about his skin
peeling, is this normal? I don't see any type of infection and he is
very active
(healthy looking, besides the peeling). Please advise and thank you, Karen
< Shedding is a normal process for a growing turtle. Turn the heat lamp off
at night and allow the tank to cool down. These major changes in temperature
keep the turtle healthy.-Chuck>
Turtle With Puffy Eyes - 04/02/06
I have two baby red-eared sliders. Their both about one inch long. The
problem is that the bigger one, Howie is his name, isn't eating. He hasn't
touched the food which I mix up for variety. He hasn't eaten in about a
month or maybe even longer now. Luckily, he is still alive. He doesn't move
or swim or anything, he just stays in one spot and only moves when I pick
him up to make sure that he is still alive. He also has puffed, swollen,
eyes which are also closed. I have informed my father about this issue of
the eye and we have been treating him with Ophthalmic Ointment for about 3
days now. It hasn't cleared up that much but did get better. It is still
swollen but not as much as it used to be and he still can't open his eyes.
We will try the ointment for one week and if his eyes still can't open or
clear up we will take him to a vet. Does the fact that he can't see affect
his eating? My friend told me that it could be a respiratory problem saying
that he won't eat, his eyes are swollen and he is not active. I don't know
what to do because I am highly concerned and am afraid that if this issue is
not cleared up, Howie might die. Please help!!!
< Check the basking spot with a thermometer and make sure it gets up to at
least 85 F. Add Repti Turtle Eye Drops by Zoo Med. Once the eyes clear up
and it can see the additional warmth of the basking site should stimulate an
appetite. Next time don't wait an entire month to ask for help. Your turtle
doesn't need to suffer for this long.-Chuck>
Red Eared Sliders Left Out In The Cold 4/1/06
We have owned a RES for 7 years. Since 2002, after moving from Texas to
Washington State, the turtle has been in an outdoor pond and has hibernated
in the mud. Here in Washington State, the winter temperatures are very cold
but the turtle has seemed to thrive in the natural habitat. About 2 weeks
ago, we found the turtle on the grass. It seemed completely limp but very
“hydrated.” We put it back in the pond and put some water around it by
hose, until the permanent pond water is turned on for the season.
Just yesterday, we saw the turtle floating in the water and pulled the
turtle out to check on its condition. Its head, legs and tail are all out;
however they are 100% limp – but not stiff. His eyes are closed and it
doesn’t move but it is not shriveled or degraded in any way other than
slight shell peeling. We put it back at the edge of the pond, slightly in
the water with a hose lying around it so it wouldn’t float out. Four to six
hours later, we found it about 6 feet up on the shore of the pond but again
– 100% limp with its eyes closed. Is the turtle sick – hibernating – or
dead? Our weather this spring has fluctuated from cold to warm quite a bit.
The temperature here right now is 55 degrees and will probably reach 60’s
throughout the day!?! HELP!!! We love our turtle… :-)
< With all the strange weather going across the country, the outdoor
turtles are really taking it hard. After a few warm days the turtles come
out of hibernation only to get hit by a long cold spell that leaves them
vulnerable to the elements. Your turtle has a respiratory problem and needs to
be taken to a vet for antibiotics. In the meantime , bring him inside and
set him up with a basking site that will get to at least 85 F. The fluid in
his lungs prevents him from swimming.-Chuck>
Re: Red-Eared Slider Hibernation - 04/02/06
Thank you so much for your reply. I was also told it may be in partial
hibernation and to bring it in and put it in 85 degree water with some
Pedialyte and Poly-Vi-Sol (multi-vitamin drops). Now that I'm convinced
it's still alive I will definitely take it to the vet. Again, thanks for
your help...
Turtles With Worms, Algae 4/1/06
I recently purchased two baby RES turtles, Crush and Squirt. I have
done much research on taking care of them and so far so good. I have encountered
a
few questionable situations. I am hoping you can provide some info to
the following concerns:
1. Both sliders are the same size but one seems to be more "afraid"
than the
other and frantically makes a mad dash when I walk by. I have never seen
him
eat but because of his shyness I don't stick around to observe. The other
baby will sometimes even eat food from my hand and pop his head out of the
water to say hi. I know that it will take some time for them to get used to
their
new home, but comparing their behaviors make me wonder if the scared turtle
is suffering from something. Is this normal behavior or do I need to
treat
somehow? I also have an adult RES in a separate tank right next to Crush
and
Squirt. Could the view of Sparky be intimidating Squirt and causing this
scared behavior?
< Slowly approach the tank once each day to feed the turtles. Feed the
turtles as much as they will eat at one time a few times a week. In a while
they will start to associate you with food and will be very eager to see
you.>
2. I clean their tanks regularly and they are equipped with their own heaters, filters, and basking lamp with island. I keep the water temp. at
80
degrees and their basking lamps stay on. I mainly feed them pellets and
cooked chicken seems to be the older turtles favorite! I read that older RES
should have
more of a veggie diet but he loves chicken. Will feeding him mainly pellets
and meat cause health problems? What more can I do to ensure happy turtles?
< They really need more veggies in the way of kale and spinach. Commercial
adult turtle diets have more vegetable matter in it too. Turtles with too
much protein start to get deformed shells.>
3. The biggest concern I have comes from a recent experience with the baby
turtle tank involving sudden appearance and rapid multiplication of
algae with
white stringy worms. At first I did not notice that they were worms until
I concentrated and noticed they were wiggling around. It came as a shock
to me
how fast the "worm algae" multiplied and stuck to the glass wall. I noticed
though that the worms were much larger in numbers where the basking lamp
reflected off the water. I cleaned the tank with boiling water and a mild vinegar/water solution. Could these worms get inside my babies and
cause health
problems? What causes this and what can I do to prevent it from happening
again?
Thank You. Sincerely, Amberley
< Chances are the worms are feeding off the algae. Treat the tank with Fluke
tabs to get rid of the worms. After each feeding vacuum up any waste and
excess food. This should help keep the algae down.-Chuck>
Turtle With Mouth Problems 3/27/06
I have a red-eared slider that is about 1 year old. It was eating it's
turtle dock and I picked it up to see if anything was in it's mouth and I
noticed that it's mouth does not completely close. It closes in the middle and
has gaps on both sides. It only touches at the middle point. Is this
normal? I searched in my turtle book and did not find anything. Thanks, Ami
< In an effort to obtain minerals not found in its diet, it has tried to eat
some of the algae off the turtle dock and has probably damaged its mouth. Change
the diet to add more greens like spinach and kale. Older turtles require more
vegetable matter than younger turtles. The damage may heal over time.-Chuck>
My daughter has a RES which has a bump on the left side of the mouth, no
injuries 6 month old any suggestions? 3/27/06
< Sometimes while eating young turtle accidentally bite into objects that
damage their mouth's and it may get swollen an infected. Sometimes turtles
caught from the wild contain parasites that show up as bumps on the skin. If it
does not get better in a week then start looking for a vet. Reptile vets for
some areas can be found at Kingsnake.com.-Chuck>
Red Eared Slider Can't Eat 3/19/06
Hello. We have several red sliders (about 5-10 years old, so fully grown).
We have them in a pond in our greenhouse in summer, and hibernated in the
cellar during winter. This year, after waking up from hibernation, one of them
has problems
eating. It is clearly hungry, and snaps at the food on the surface, but
first of all it seems to miss the food (it snaps to the left of it), and
secondly it can't open its mouth more than about 1mm.
We have tried to pry the mouth open and put food in, but the jaws are very
strong, and we are afraid to hurt it. Apart from not being able to open its
mouth it seems healthy and alert. Can sliders get a dislocated jaw?
< Sure, but it could be an infection too. Go to Kingsnake.com and look around on
the headers and you will find a vet finding section. Hopefully you can find one
in your area.-Chuck>
Little Turtle Staying Little 2/6/06
Hi, I have 1 RES and he is only 2". I have read that they grow like 2 or 3
inches in a year. But anyway I've had my RES for 2 yrs now and I was wondering
if at 2" long that's the right length for being 2 to 3 yrs old? I have 2 baby
YBS coming in 3 or 4 days so I want at least get a good start with these 2
little 1s (I had my RES in a 10 gallon tank and then just recently upgraded to a
20 gal with filter heater etc. . I am going to put the 2 babies in with her).
Does tank size matter to how big they get or is it in how u feed
them?? Please help me I really need. Thank you!
< Typically a turtle that old should be bigger. Get some ZooMed Aquatic Turtle
Food and feed him three to four times a week as much as he will eat at one
sitting. Siphon out any uneaten food so it will not pollute the tank. In between
the big feedings you can give him some washed earthworms, mealworms, crickets
and king worms. Older turtles require less protein and want more vegetable
matter in their diet. As they grow you can increase the tanks size to
accommodate them. I would not recommend mixing turtles of different
sizes.-Chuck>
Red Eared Slider Turtle Shell Question 2/2/06
Hello.
<Hello Magnus Here to help>
I'm relatively new to the world of keeping aquatic turtles and more or less
"inherited" two baby red eared sliders.
<That is how most people I know who have R.E. Sliders start their addiction>
The larger of the two has grown quite a bit since I acquired them. More
recently I've noticed that certain that some of it's scutes have become
"indented" and his shell isn't smooth - it's a bit "rocky" looking. The shell
doesn't seem soft to touch and his appetite his healthy - I feed them a regular
diet of feeder fish, calcium fortified Repto-min pellets, and shrimp.
<it's good that you are offering calcium they need this!>
Why could his shell seem deformed? Also, it's not a bright green - it's more of
a dark brown/off green colour. Thanks for any assistance you might be able to
provide!
<Are you offering basking areas so they can climb out of the water? an overly
aquatic environment is a bad thing for turtles, the need to get out and dry off
on occasion. Also, you will need to offer a UV light bulb, turtles require the
Sun's Rays to offer nutrients to help promote growth of new cells. Another
question is has your turtles shed? Like all amphibians and reptiles, turtles
while shed their skin (and scutes). I had one of my Red Ears that right before
he shed his scutes looked rather rough. My suggestion is to have a UV basking
light on the tank so the turtles can get the vitamins they need that way, that
should strengthen their ability to grow, and the scutes should look the better
for it.>
Jeff
<best of luck. Magnus>
Turtle Can't Swim - 01/12/2006
Hi, I had a question about my red eared slider. I have had it for several
months now and there are a few things I'm concerned about. It can't swim
under water, it just floats back up to the top, and it has trouble eating,
it misses its food a lot. Like it can't see it or something. When it swims
on top of the water it swims lopsided, and it seems like his head is hard to
control, it kind of bobs around. I was just wondering if you had an idea
about what could be wrong with it.
< Your turtle has a Protozoan infection and will probably die if untreated. A
treatment of Neomycin from a vet should get him back on
tract.-Chuck.>
Thanks,
Justine
Red Eared Slider Acting Weird - 01/03/2006
I bought 2 RES's in Chinatown in October, that are under 4 inches. I
now know that they are illegal to sell if they are that small! They have been
healthy since, not growing that much though. In the past few days one of them
has a really puffy neck. It looks enlarged. And I don't know why. It also
"yawns" a lot, And puts his head and neck down on its rock, which I've never
seen
him do before. The other RES is fine. Do you have any ideas why he would be
like that?
< If it has swallowed something then it may have an obstruction and may be
trying to clear it. If it is an infection it may need antibiotics. Most turtle
problems can be treated with heat. Check the temperature of the basking spot ,
it should be up around 85 F. If it is till eating then try and get some reptile
vitamins in case it is a deficiency. To be sure take it to a vet to be sure of
your turtles condition.-Chuck>
Baby Turtle Needs Help With Soft Shell
Hi crew! Thanks very much, your website is really helpful to me.
I'm scared with my newly purchased red eared slider since the sides of his
shell are soft and tends to bend. I found out about it since I needed to place
him in a proper container. He is just an inch big. I think he is just a
hatchling. Hoping to hear from you very soon. thanks! Ja
< A common problem with baby turtles is soft shells. This is caused by
inadequate amounts of calcium or vitamin D3 in the diet and inadequate
lighting/heat on the basking spot. I would recommend Zoo Med Turtle Hatchling
Food and a Zoo Med Reptisun 5.0 UVB lamp for the basking spot.-Chuck
Turtle Is Very Sick
Hey, I have a question about my red eared slider turtle. I'm very concerned
because he hasn't eaten since Thanksgiving. Is it normal, or do I need to get
him to a vet?
< This is not normal unless it is cold and he is getting ready to hibernate.>
He has also been basking to the point that his skin dies and starts peeling and
I have to make him get back in the water. He is even basking when his light
goes off (I have it on a 14 hour timer).
< Your turtle is very sick and needs to see a vet. A month ago I would recommend
a Zoo Med 5.0 UVB lamp for the basking spot and check the temp of the basking
spot to see if it gets up to 85 F. I think you turtle has a
respiratory infection
and needs antibiotics.-Chuck>
Sick/Blind Turtle 12/5/05
Hi, Guys! I read all the posts and this is different. I bought four baby RES two weeks
ago. After I put them in the tank (new tank, floating dock, rocks, UVA/UVB
reptile light on side of tank, 2 10W incandescent on top) that one was blind. Or
rather, where his eyes should be are two beige areas, with the same markings as his head. He basked a lot, and was reluctant to swim much.
He doesn't eat. I've tried krill, chicken, pellets, apple, worms, etc. Put it wet, right by
his nose and he doesn't sniff. He wipes his head a lot, too, when feeling active. Every day I think he'll be dead, and every day he is on the floating
dock, head tucked in, and not eating.
He started gaping a week ago. No discharge, just gaping, usually after swimming a bit. He never dives, just paddles a
bit, and then finds the dock again. Then gapes a few minutes. This isn't good is it? I read some posts today and put him in a sulfa dip bowl, with a
basking rock, and a 100 watt light 12 inches away. Can I pry his mouth open, and if
I do, what should I try to feed him? Thanks, Kate
< He won't eat until he can see. He has a respiratory infection. You can get some Turtle Eye Drops from Zoomed and some vitamins as well. The
respiratory infection may require antibiotics from a vet. Check the basking spot with a thermometer. It should be around 85 to 90 F. When he can see and is going into the water on his own then he is ready to feed.-Chuck>
Can red ear sliders carry worms?
We have two small red ear slider turtles and we put them for a few
minutes in a small tank we have with ghosts shrimps that our kids enjoy
watching. After the turtles swam a while they were taken out and returned
to their "homes." Shortly after I notices a long white thin
string looking thing in the aquarium with the shrimps that I took to be
turtle poop, even though I thought it was odd. A few days later, it was
still in the aquarium and while I watched the shrimp swim after their
food, I noticed that the "turtle poop" was moving and coiling up
and straightening out. The thing is alive.
<I imagine that was quite the eye opener...>
It makes my skin crawl.
<I know what you mean.>
It could only have come from the turtles. All we have in the small tank
are 7 ghosts shrimps and this thing was not in there until we put the
turtles in there to see if they enjoyed it.
<Pretty positive that it's an parasitic worm that was in one of the
turtles.>
Is this possible and should I worry about my children who handle these
turtles?
<You should always be careful with your children when handling
turtles. Not only for parasites, but also you should be wary of
Salmonella. While usually we associate worms with pet dogs and
cats there are many different types of worms that will infest pet
reptiles. The most dangerous of these are called Pentastomid
worms, this is probably not the worm in your tank. Those worms are found
in the lungs of the turtle and rarely are seen outside the
body. But, I would like to share some info just to give you a
bit of warning! They are found in many different animals from snakes,
crocodiles, to turtles and lizards. The eggs of this worm are
microscopic and can be numerous in a tank. If children should
put their hands in the water and then eat something they can ingest the
eggs. This isn't meant to scare you away from keeping turtles,
just a fact that parents should know. To treat for these
parasites, allow the turtle to dry out for a couple of hours and then
place the turtle in a solution of Piperazine for about thirty minutes.>
The We had 3 and one turtle just died one day and we couldn't
figure out why. No noticeable infections or anything. Our other turtle
looks perfectly fine but the smaller one seems to have lost it's eye sight
somewhat. It's always rubbing at his eyes with it's little hands and we
have to guide the food into it's mouth because it has trouble finding it.
Please take the time to let me know what you think is going on. Do turtles
carry intestinal worms? I appreciate your time and hope to hear from you
soon.
<I suggest you check out some turtle forums to learn more on turtle
care. A really nice article on turtle health can be found
here http://www.geocities.com/dterrapin/disease/ (though,
it's a bit hard to read with the green on black type...) I have
found the info to be quite well written and offers many good links to
learn more.>
Thank you,
Maria G. Gonzalez
<By washing after handling a herp and by keeping herp cages clean, any
risk of disease will be minimized. -Magnus> |
Suggested answer to a recent Daily FAQ post
Hello there, was looking through the Daily FAQ today (2/21.5) and
noticed
this post/response:
Can red ear sliders carry worms?
What caught my eye about it was the presence of ghost shrimp in the tank.
Just wanted to note a semi-recent topic on the WWM forums:
http://wetwebfotos.com/talk/thread.jsp?forum=3&thread=16157&tstart=15&trange=15
Allivymar had a ghost shrimp with a worm recently and posted photos of the
worm, both in and out of the shrimp. I recently encountered one of these
as well
(I'm DonQuixote on the forums) with a shrimp I purchased recently. The
person
who sent in the question about the turtles might want to give the photos a
look and see if it's similar. If so, the worm might've been in one of the
shrimp
rather than a turtle. I never even thought to look at ghost shrimp for
these
things until seeing photos of them both here and on another forum
recently.
Hope this helps,
Chris Sandusky
<Does. Thank you for sending your note. Bob Fenner> |
Turtle Quarantine
I have been a turtle fanatic since I was a small child and have renewed my
interest in the last two years.
<Awesome, I have been thinking of having a turtle shell tattooed on my back,
ok, not seriously but the thought did cross my mind.>
I was given two young RES two years ago and they are now 5-6" from back to
front. I have built a small pond and they cohabit with some feeder fish that are
now 7-8" long. I am in the process of increasing the pond size and would
like to provide them with land area in case they want to leave the pond and
"stretch" their legs. Can you provide some direction on designing this
area for them?
<Anything that has a nice slope into the water will work fine, a large rock,
an upside down pot with rock on top of it, a large piece of wood, a pile of
rocks, whatever looks good to you and is functional for them.>
Also today a large RES, 2-3 times larger than my two found its way into my back
yard.
<I had a duck run into my garage once, blew my mind.>
There are no ponds, lakes close by although several homes have pools. No one in
the area claims the turtle so I would like to adopt it. At this time it is
living in a large "tub" but I don't want this to last too long so
therefore the urgency of my questions. My question is can all three turtles live
together since there is a considerable size difference? If so what can I do to
ensure that the new found turtle does not contaminate my others?
<If the pond that they are living in is large enough they should be fine,
aggression is a possibility and you need to be prepared to separate them if one
of them gets too rough. I would keep the new turtle separated for at least a
month, possibly in an aquarium, preferably bare bottomed. This will allow you to
observe the turtles behavior, and watch for signs of disease. If something does
come up you can treat the turtle before he infects your other two. Quarantine is
important in reptiles as well as fish.>
I also have a Florida soft shelled turtle that was given to me that is living in
an aquarium at this time but will be relocated to her new pond this summer. Will
all my turtles live together or will they need separate homes?
<I am not up to date on my soft shell husbandry, if they enjoy the same
environment as the sliders it might be ok, you will still need to watch for
aggression. I do not think I ever see these turtles mixed, there could be a good
reason for that.>
I want to make sure all is right because I would be devastated if I did anything
to harm, injure or cause death.
<Quarantine is the way to go. Best Regards, Gage>
Thank you for your time and assistance - Todd Hunt
Turtle Injury - 1\9\05
I have recently bought red eared hatchlings (4) two of
them have died. I have a 20 gal long with heater, rocks,
filter, basking ramp, they eat pellets and shrimp
treats. what can I being doing wrong?
<Young turtles need plenty of food, and plenty of UBV light. Purchase an
incandescent reptile UVB heat lamp and a clip on lamp. Point the lamp at the
basking ramp. Every day or as often as you can, take them out for at least 15
minutes of sunlight, but make sure they don't overheat. Realize they that will
grow fairly quickly, and attain over a foot in length. If you are going to let
them go, make sure they are native to your area, and teach them to catch live
food such as feeder fish>
Today I was
cleaning the tank and had the turtles aside and my dog
got hold of one and bit a hole in the shell the
turtle is alive but bleed what do I do?
<Keep the turtle's injury and water clean, and purchase an antibiotic ointment
to rub on the shell for the next 7-10 days. Make sure to clean the wound and
change the water every day to prevent infection until the wound heals. Good
luck with your turtles - M. Maddox>
SICK TURTLES
I have two red- eared slider turtles that I have had since July of 2001. They were both the size of quarters when I bought them and now they each weigh 4.5 grams. This past Christmas I noticed that my male turtle (Mustard) was shedding his scutes. It did not seem to hurt him, but I had never noticed anything like that before. I sort of panicked, I was out of town and not near his normal vet so I went to a different one. He said that both of my turtles had a fungal infections and suggested that I let them soak in a diluted chlor-hexadine solution. When I did that, it seemed to irritate their eyes, so I went to suggestion number 2 and painted them w/the non-diluted chlor-hexadine.
Well, after a few weeks, I didn't notice a change in their shells, but I did notice that Mustard was keeping his eyes closed more often. When they were open they didn't appear swollen and they were still really clear, but I was concerned so I brought him and my female turtle (Honey) to their regular vet.
He took a few pieces of their shells and looked at them under the microscope. He said that he didn't see any fungus or bacteria. He suggested that they may be starting to develop one or more vitamin deficiencies. He suggested that I add some frozen vegetables to their diet, and continue w/the chlor-hexadine. I did that and then about 3 days later I noticed two small spots to the top of Honey's shell that seemed to be missing, it looked like bone (white) instead of a green color. This made me take a closer look at Mustard and I found a similar spot on the bottom of his shell only it was pink in color. I called the vet and when he called back he said that they should start antibiotic injections, he didn't look at the turtles, but I picked up the medicine and for about a week and a half I have been giving them the shots.
They are still shedding scutes and now at the very edge of their shell where they were rimmed w/a nice yellow color, it seems to be turning transparent. It's still a yellow color, but you can see through it. It's weird. Not only that, but Honey's shell is peeling so badly that on the bottom there is a piece that if I pulled off her pink shell would be totally exposed. I've just left it. As for their behavior, they both are very active and seem strong. I have noticed an increase in Honey's appetite and a decrease in Mustard's. He still eats, but not w/the gusto that he used to.
Their vet doesn't always seem like he is confident about what he is talking about but unfortunately
there are not many exotic vets in the area where I live. There are a million different suggestions all over the web and in the books that I have at home. Some contradicting each other. I read through quite a bit of the turtle FAQ's page and whoever was answering the questions seemed very knowledgeable. Please, I am open to any advice. My turtles are great and I have invested quite a bit of love, time, and money into their care. I'm desperate to get them healthy again.
Thank you for any suggestions you might have.
< Here is what I would do in your situation. It appears your turtles have a deficiency. Either the wrong light or the wrong food. First I would start with the tank. Make sure the tank is clean. Use a good filter and service it often. Change water before it starts to turn sour. Give them a good dry spot to bask under a good light that provides heat, UVA and UVB. Feed a commercial aquatic turtle food and
supplement their feedings with mealworms, earthworms, crickets and kingworms. It your water is soft and acid like in the NW U.S. then I would add a tropical fish buffer to increase the pH and increase the calcium in the water. New turtles should have a sulfa block added to the water to prohibit the bacterial infections you are currently encountering.-Chuck>SICK TURTLES II
Chuck, thank you so much for your suggestions. I wanted to let you know that I do have them in
separate 15 gallon tanks (maybe this is not big enough). I buy bottled distilled water to fill their tanks.
< I would suggest adding a fish tank buffer to keep the pH above seven and increase the calcium levels in the water.>
I empty and clean their tanks and change their filter media every 30-45 days.
< I would do it more often until they are well, like every week.>
They each have a UVA/UVB light that is on for 12hrs a day along w/a basking lamp that is on for about 5hrs a day. I keep their water temperature at 76 degrees w/an underwater thermostat. Their basking area is usually between 85-88 degrees. I feed them a commercial turtle food and until recently it was every other day. I have tried every day since I've noticed them getting sick. About once a month I will buy them each a dozen or so guppies and every 3 months I'll split about 50 mealworms between them. I actually even feed them in a
separate container in an attempt to keep their water cleaner. I have been adding Stresscoat as a suggestion from their vet when last year I noticed their skin peeling. As for the Sulfa blocks....they eat them. Is that safe?
< Eating the sulfa blocks may be their way of expressing a need for minerals.>
I feel like my turtles may have picked up a bacterial infection this past fall when we were re-building their habitat. It took us longer than expected and they weren't exposed to the UVA/UVB lights as often as they should have been. In addition, I was using our tap water (which is well water) filtered through a Brita pitcher to feed them in rather than the bottled water and recently we were given a boil notice saying that our water may or may not have fecal bacteria in it. The Brita pitcher obviously can not filter this type of bacteria, so that's why I've gone to using the distilled water to feed them. I wonder about using povidone/iodine solution to paint on their shells. Their vet said that it would be OK if I diluted it, but did not give me instructions on how to do so. Also, should I leave them in their water all the time, or should I be keeping them more dry? Their vet wasn't sure what to suggest. I really appreciate your help with this matter. Thanks
again.
< I would feed them a more varied diet with mealworms once a month instead of every three. Keeping the water cleaner will be a big
plus. The minerals in the sulfa block are very beneficial. I would try and isolate it with some plastic mesh so the turtles can't get to it directly.-Chuck>
NEW TURTLE
Hi you guys.
I have enjoyed reading your replies to what seem to be some of the lamest people on Earth, I am sure (helllloooo....you think your turtle has a broken
leg? You don't even think of taking her to the vet??). Here is our situation: I work in the Biology Dept of a community college. 2,
6-inch Sliders (both males) were donated along with their 150 gal tank about a year ago. They are thriving-eating, growing, very social. Someone found a
small (4-inch) Slider in their yard and asked if we could take it. I have
him here, separated from the others. He is eating reptile sticks, soaking in a small tub of water and enjoying the warming light. I read in the forums to
keep him separate for at least a month, which is fine.
I wonder, not knowing anything about this guy, if I need to worry about any parasites or
other diseases. The new guy seems healthy, bright, clear eyes, very active, decent appetite. Should I do anything besides the quarantine? I also
noticed that someone mentioned to keep the introduc-ee in a bare-bottomed tank. I assume this means no water? He has a tub within the tank so he can
get in if he wants. The rest of the tank is medium sized gravel.
Thanks ahead of time for your help. Your forum is terrific.
Dandelian Tucker
Teaching Assistant II, Biology/Environmental Science
< New turtles should be quarantined for a month in a clean aquarium. Add a sulfa
block to the water for the month. The sulfa will dissolve into the water and inhibit any bacterial or fungal growth due to
trauma.-Chuck>
Turtle Q's
Hello
<How goes it?>
I have a slider which I have had for about two months now and everything was going
good, but lately he has not been so active. He has been sleeping all day, even after
I got him a heater, his shell has spots the people at the pet store told
me he's shedding.
<Hmm.. can you get a picture? Does the turtle have an area to get out of the water, and a lamp (that provides UVB rays) in which to bask?>
When he is in the tank he has white stuff around his mouth
<Can you be more descriptive\get a picture?>
He really doesn't get out of his water; I have to take him out of the tank.
<See above question regarding a heat lamp>
His eating habits are very good and he is still very strong but I'm still really worried. I did every thing I was told to do, but I'm afraid he's not ok.
<Have you been feeding him a variety of food, and bring him outside for a half hour or so of sunshine every other day? Turtles NEED UVB radiation to properly absorb calcium, and the spots on the shell may be decalcified areas. Get him a heat lamp with a UVB incandescent heat bulb, and make certain to take him outside for a half hour of sun each day. Also, obtain a reptile vitamin supplement and add it to his food>
Is it time to take him to the vet
or am I being overprotective?
<Nothing wrong with a checkup from a vet, they know a ton about animals>
Please help I don't want him to die.
<See above :) From now on please use proper capitalization\punctuation, as these letters are archived for future reading>
Thanks
<You're welcome, good luck!>
Self-Abusing Turtle Bites Himself in Japan
Dear WWM , I have a male red eared slider that is about 2 -3 years old in his own tank.
Recently (last few weeks) he has started to bite his left front hand/claw keratin bits. One of the pieces of keratin is starting to look a bit
inflamed and pale pinkish, not like a normal white keratin piece - like he has had a good gnaw at it. Is this self-biting normal and do you think he
has potentially infected his claw/hand by biting it? If it is a potential problem, what can I do to fix it? Thank you for your time. Regards, Farah
< At one point in time there was probably some food stuck on his claw and as he attempted to get to it he mistakenly bit himself. Now he probably thinks the reddish coloration is still food. I would clean the tank and keep it that way to help prevent the infection from getting worse. I would add a Dr Turtle sulfa block to treat the
bacterial infection. I would then feed the turtle several times a day to prevent him from getting so hungry he will
prefer the food instead of his claw. When the claw starts to grow back and turn back to a more normal color I would make sure he is well fed so
he doesn't go back to his old bad habits.-Chuck>
More Turtle Trouble in Japan
Dear Chuck. Thank you for your e-mail. The claw is actually still intact - it's just
the keratin piece above it that has got inflamed. Just another quick question if that's OK - we live in Japan and can't get Dr Turtle Sulfa
Block's here. Can you point me to a website that sells these and would be prepared to deliver to Japan. If not, what would be a good substitute for
Dr Turtle's sulfa block? Thanks again for your time. Regards, Farah
< Go to
ZooMed.com. They now have a mail order
business or may be able to direct you to a shop in Japan.
DrsFosterSmith.com
would probably be able top help you too. Before I would go to the US for something I think I would go to a
pet shop in Japan and try and find Japanese equivalent. Maybe print out the ZooMed Dr. Turtle page from the website and take it with you. If you speak Japanese I am sure they will be able to help you.-Chuck>
Basking for Sick Turtles
Hi. I just got two baby red eared sliders (they are very small about 1 in and
I just found out illegal). I really want them to do good in their new little
habitat but today I noticed one of the turtles was sleeping on the basking rock (he was there all day yesterday too) I tired to put him in the water and
he began to move a little but didn't use one of his legs and kept it in his shell. Eventually he moved it out of the shell and began to use it but he
won't leave the basking rock. He looks fine, his shell is hard and he's green.
Is there something wrong with him or is there something I should be doing??
Both of them seem not to eat much although this one more so. I tried to give them different things but they still only eat the floating pelts. The other
turtle seems to be doing fine and is very active. Please help me out :(
< When turtles get sick they tend to stay out of the water. I would recommend a high quality heat lamp so he can raise his body temperature. It would be the same as you getting a fever to kill the bacteria. Make sure that the basking spot can get up to 100 degrees F. When he gets too hot he can always go back into the water. I am afraid that your basking spot is not hot enough to raise his body temp. move the light closer or get a bigger light.-Chuck> Basking For a Sick Turtle II
Thanks so much!! Should I move the other turtle to a different cage though?
<Respiratory infections can be contagious. If you have separate and adequate facilities then
separate them. But don't do it if you only have one tank and one light though.-Chuck> Sick
Baby Red Ear Turtle
We have a red slider about the size of a 50 cent piece. We purchased him about 12 weeks ago. He is set up in a small aquarium with water 1/2 full with
a floating perch. We keep him under a desk lamp when there is poor sunlight.
Within the past 2 days he has stopped eating. He stays on his perch most of the day. I think I have noticed "sneezing"?
What can we do to help our turtle get back to his old self?
< Your turtle probably has a respiratory infection. You need to get a lamp that provides both heat and the proper wavelength of light. Keep the desk lamp on him 12 hours per day over the basking
spot. Use a incandescent plant light bulb of about 60 to 80 watts. Use an electrical timer to keep the photoperiod the same. Heat and antibiotics are the
only two things that will help. If he is not better in a few days then your turtle should be taken to a vet.-Chuck>
Turtle With Bacterial Infection 7/9/05
Dear WWM, I have a male red eared slider that is about 2-3 years old and
living in his own tank. Recently I have noticed that some areas of his
skin, particularly around the top of his legs where they fold under his
shell, have developed a slightly pinkish tinge. He seems to swim and move
quite freely. The skin is also quite puffy in that area. He tends to
sleep/rest with eyes closed quite frequently (say 50-60% of the time) during
the day compared to my other RES who is a continual bundle of energy. He
doesn't eat a lot but he does eat and he does poo regularly. I have read in
a turtle book about a pink splotchy condition over the entire body called
Red Leg - they indicate that this is a bacterial infection. I am unsure
what my RES has got, if anything, if it is related to his sleeping patterns
and what I should be doing to correct it. Look forward to your reply.
Regards, Farah Dwyer
< Increase the heat to the basking spot. Change the water and clean the filter
if you have one. Dip the turtle in ZooMed's Repti Sulfa Dip and get a Dr Turtle
Sulfa Block for the water. You need to clean the tank more often. Get Repti
Turtle Eye Drops to help clear the eyes.-Chuck>
Turtles With a Pain in the Neck 7/17/05
Gentlemen:
< There are many ladies on the crew too.>
Thank you for having a most informative website.
I have two red eared sliders that are about 2 1/2 years old. They are
growing rather well. However, about two weeks ago they both developed a
rather horrendous puffy lesion on the nape of their necks where it meets
the shell. The vet gave some antibiotic cream which has been no help.
These lesions have now become somewhat bloody, larger and awful looking.
They are swimming and eating, however.
There are three other turtles in the group (not red eareds) that are
doing fine and do not have this problem. The tank is always clean, good
filters, etc. They bask every day in the sun.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your assistance, we need some immediate help!!
Sincerely, William
<Aquatic turtles sometimes come down with a bacterial attack that is followed up
with a white puffy skin fungus. I suspect that your turtles are probably a
little too fat and the skin is rubbing on the shell and irritating the skin and
causing the problem. Feel the shell where the problem is. If it is sharp then I
would file it down with a fingernail file to just take the sharp edge off. If
they are a little overweight then cut back on the calories not matter how hard
they beg. If possible , use a cotton swap to wipe off the white cottony fungus
down to the bare irritated skin. Paint the area with iodine or Merthiolate until
it dries. Dip the turtles in Repti Turtle Sulfa Dip and then apply the Repti
Wound Healing Aid. Place a Dr. turtle Sulfa Block in the water as a
preventative. Make sure the water is clean by checking for ammonia. Is the main
cause of infections among water turtles.-Chuck.>
Turtle with Shell Problem 7/16/05
Hi~ I have had my RES for over a year and he has a green spot on his
back. I have tried a Dr. Turtle, and I clean his tank about every other
week. I have put Vita shell on it a few times and I don't know what else to
try. I didn't know if I needed to change his UV light or what to do. I use to
have five gold fish in his tank but I just took them out to see if that would
help. Thanks, Kristin
< Shell rot is not completely understood as to the causes. If it is just a dark
spot on the shell then it may be a scare or abnormal coloration. Shell rot is
where the bone degenerates into a cheese like consistency. This can happen
underneath the scutes. The area needs to be cleaned of the cheese like material
down to the bone and then an antibiotic ointment needs to be applied to kill the
remaining bacteria. For a first defense I would put vitamins in this food. Then
I would increase the heat on the basking spot to a higher wattage or put the
light closer. Then I would give your turtle a Repti Turtle Sulfa Dip. If after
all this the spot keeps getting bigger or deeper then a visit to a good reptile
vet is in order.-Chuck>
Turtle with Fungus on his Shell and Neck 7/9/05
Hi, my name is Brooke, I have a red eared slider that I got on Easter last
year and he seems to have some kind of fungus growing on his shell and neck. Is
he sick, will he die, will my other red eared slider die too, is there anything
I can do? Please e-mail me back and help me out! Thanks! Brooke
< Fungus usually attacks dead or dying tissue. This could be the result of a
bacterial infection. Clean the tank. Change all the water and clean the filter
if you have one. Your basking light may not be hot enough. Get it closer to the
basking spot or get a light of a higher wattage. Dip the turtle in ZooMed's
Repti Turtle Sulpha Dip and get a ZooMed Dr. Turtle Sulfa Block for the water.
You should see some improvement within a week.-Chuck>
Turtle Handling 7.20.05
Hi, I was wondering if you got a young red ear slider if you hold it a lot
if he would get used to it and if it can hurt you if you hold it. Please
respond. Thank you.
<With most reptiles the more you handle them the more they will tolerate you,
however they will never really warm up to you like a cat or a dog. If you
dangle your finger in front of their face they may try to take a bite to see if
it is something yummy, this would hurt. They also get a little squirmy when
being held and have toenails that can scratch, but nothing too serious. The
most important thing is to wash your hands with hot soapy water after handling
them so that you do not get salmonella. Salmonella will hurt you the following
is the definition from dictionary.com "Any of various rod-shaped bacteria of the
genus Salmonella, many of which are pathogenic, causing food poisoning, typhoid,
and paratyphoid fever in humans and other infectious diseases in domestic
animals." - Yuck. Hope this helps, Gage>
How Many Red Eared Sliders in a 75 Gallon Tank 10/4/05
Hello, I have a used 75 gallon aquarium that I plan on resealing in order
to use for red eared sliders. We got one RES about 2 months ago and he
is currently in a 29 gallon tank with a variety of fish (all of which
are fine by the way). Unfortunately we had not researched RES
thoroughly and didn't realize he needed to be separated. He spent his
first month in a one gallon tank with some water before we moved him
into the bigger tank so he hasn't grown quite as fast as he could have.
I have 2 questions. First, can we add more RES when we put our
current RES into the 75 gallon tank? Second, how many RES should I
plan on having total in a 75 gallon tank? I was planning on having 3
total but don't want them being overcrowded in the future. Thank you,
Brenda
< When they are little and under 4 inches shell length the number is up to you
depending on filtration and water changes. At around 4 inches they start to get
a little defensive of their food and will start to bite other turtles. I would
trim it down to three max because they will continue to grow and the shells of
some females may get up close to 10 inches long.-Chuck>
Moving Turtles 10/3/05
Dear Sir: I have 4 Read Eared turtles for five years. they were doing fine until
they
became developing constipation...I do have a set up indoors with lamp and
heater and a big tank. During summer we place them in an artificial pond
outside
and have prepared a place to bask. In the past weeks I have noticed they have
been constipated so I have prepared mineral oil, fish oil, herbs and I have
given them that with a dropper to help a bowel movement. It has happened
before after my spouse feed them with dry fish so I have done the same and
worked well...So I notice now they are sleeping and staying mostly outside the
water and I am concern of this new behavior. Are they depressed?
< When turtles aren't feeling well then they usually stay out more to warm
themselves up to raise their body temperature. I don't think they are
depressed.>
I like to ask you how can I transport them to FL so I am relocating and I
am looking a way to transport them in short time. The airline wont allows
reptiles...so what can I do?
< Go to Kingsnake.com. There are lots of dealers there that ship reptiles all
over the world. There are links that will connect you with their website and
there you will find ideas on shipping.>
I have been told I can send them through UPS next day , can this be safe?
< If done properly there should be no problem.>
My turtles came from FL so I must bring them back to FL. I have arranged for a
person with a natural pond at home to take them in. I don't want them to
suffer. Do you think they might adjust themselves well to a new
environment?
<No problem. They do it all the time.>
This lady lives close to Orlando FL and has a natural pond with fish and |