Leaky 300 gal.
– 09/17/07
My name is Joey and I have a very important question. First, I would like to
say love the web site. I wish they would stop making 10 and 15 gallon aquariums
come on that is not a home!! Bigger is better I am going to look at a 300 gallon
tank for sales that has very thing included. But it needs to be resealed. Is it
worth resealing? I have saved some fish from people that could not maintain the
demands of a growing fish. And they need to be moved to bigger tank I don't mind
trying I am just worried about the pressure that comes with a three hundred
gallons of water, rocks and a two foot long Pacu and a Giant Gourami. If the
answer is yes what is the best resealer and where can I buy it? Thank you.
<Greetings. Thanks for the kind words, and while I agree 10-15 gallon tanks
aren't ideal for many people, especially beginners, they're very useful for
those of us who like breeding fish! But I agree, the "best seller" starting tank
should be a 'long' 20-gallon tank. Now, repairing a tank can be done. There's an
FAQ and links to all kinds of articles here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/aqrepairfaqs.htm . But, the bigger the tank, the more
difficult this becomes and the more important it is to get right. Personally,
unless I was experienced with fixing small tanks, I wouldn't take the chance
with a 300 gallon tank. As you say, that much water is a lot of pressure, and
when such tanks fail, they can do explosively. Aquarium sealant is silicone and
you can buy it anywhere that caters to fishkeepers. It's important to use the
right kind though; generic silicone is treated with chemicals for use in
bathrooms and around the house safely. You want the proper aquarium-grade
silicone. Quite possibly, you'll make life easier getting the leaky 300 gallon
tank, stripping it of parts, and then using them on a new 300 gallon tank. As a
rule, the tank part isn't terribly expensive compared with the hood, cabinet,
lights, filter, etc. Cheers, Neale>
1" thick acrylic - Can we fix it? 9/27/05
Hello, I couldn't find a similar problem to mine except ...leak leak...
leak. I have a very large 500+ gallon tank. It's 1" baked acrylic on all sides.
I
have saltwater in it and have had it for like 6 - 7 years. It's completely
built in to a wall and is supported on a steel structure. We noticed some
water damage on a piece of quarter round that was trimming it and when we
removed
the trim water started spurting from a pin hole leak. The trim was actually
holding it in check some what. I don't want to try and remove the whole tank
from it's location as it will cost major in carpentry. Will this acrylic
cement (northcoastmarines)
work for this type of leak? How does this type of thing happen after all
these years? Kim
<This tank can likely be repaired... in place. Do look into square "doweling"
(this is sometimes only flush/ninety degrees on two of the four sides... You
must make sure the flush sides are affixed to the corners. What needs to be
done? Drain, clean the tank entirely, cut the doweling to size to fit in all
corners (yes, including the sides), and solvent in... The extra bit of acrylic
in the corners won't be obvious in time. Cheers, Bob Fenner>
Re: 1" thick acrylic - Can we fix it? 9/30/05
Thanks so much but where does one find square acrylic (I assume not just plastic?) "doweling"? Kim
<Should be available, as well as solvent/Weld-on and cleaner from a large/r
plastics distributor in your town... or mail-order... Use your "Yellow Page"
directory, the Net to find. Bob Fenner>
Cracked acrylic tank 9/20/05
Well Bob,
You were right, only give it time....I've got a new one for ya.
My crew and I were installing a new 36" x 30" x 36" acrylic tank from AAT
today. As the tank was being set down on the floor, one of them lost their grip
for fear of getting their fingers pinched. The right front corner of the tank
hit the bare concrete floor from about 2 inches up....that's when I heard that
unquestionable cracking sound. I saw my profits disappear before my very
eyes. However, upon inspection, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. The crack
is actually in the bottom plate about 1/4" in just beneath where the front panel
(front and sides are one piece with bent corners) is welded to the bottom panel,
about 6 inches from the start of the right corner radius. This crack extends
from the bottom surface upwards about 3/4" in an arching pattern, almost like a
rainbow...but not nearly as pretty, and finishes back at the bottom surface. Its
a pretty clean crack and does not go anywhere near where there would be
water. I figured that because it directly underneath the front panel, that even
if it extends further over time, it would eventually dead end into the front
panel and because its almost dead center under the front panel, that there would
be plenty of material to keep it from leaking.
Your thoughts on this ????
Scott C. Wirtz
>>>Greetings!
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, things are crazy for many of us here
on the "crew" and tons of queries coming in.
Bottom line, it's impossible for any of us to say for sure about your tank. I
had a similar thing happen though to a 300 gallon tank, and it was just fine.
Good luck!
Jim<<< <<RMF would still run a bit of Weld-On (of lower viscosity) into
the cracked area>>
Need advice on separating acrylic sheets... 8/27/05
Hi Bob,
<Ed>
My name is Ed Ruiz. I'm in SLC, Utah. Seeing your vast experience in the hobby
and working with acrylic I hope I can get some advice from you.
<I see>
I recently acquired a lot of 1/8 and 1/4" acrylic sheets (24"x48") that had
apparently been stored under less than ideal conditions. I find that the sheets
are still with their paper masking on, but between each two sheets there is a
yellow or blue textile material that is holding them together. My theory is that
they were heavily stacked (too many sheets atop each other for a long period of
time -
<In the heat...>
I got them for free) and the masking textile's adherent has bonded rather
strongly. I have not insistently attempted to separate the sheets and would like
your opinion, advice or suggestions. I will use the sheets to build aquariums
for a hatchery project I am working on.
Ed Ruiz
<Very hard to separate... inserting long, thin metal strips between and prizing
apart is likely your only option... though this will very likely scratch through
the protective masking... Have you tried speaking with folks in the acrylic
business? Manufacturers of such do have websites... I would get their input
before proceeding. Bob Fenner>
Re: need advice on separating acrylic sheets... 8/30/05
Thanks a lot Bob, your suggestion is exactly my wife's' and makes sense.
<Ahh, good company>
As to the acrylic manufacturer's or vendor's websites, they're more interested
in selling me a product for taking the paper masking off. This tells me they did
not pay much attention to my enquiry in the first place.
I'll go with your advice.
Ed
<Please make it known how this goes... Years back I tried to do this... with
piano wire and a strong friends co-help, jamming thin metal strips twixt the
sheets... and getting the old masking off... what a lot of work besides! I would
listen to the acrylic manufacturer's, distributor's advice re this. Bob Fenner>
Acrylic crack repair, opportunistic/typical Moray
behavior 11/11/05
I just bought a used 55 gal hexagon acrylic tank. I was moving it
around trying to determine placement when I realized there is a crack in the top
panel. No point in finding blame now, I just want to know if I can
save it or take this as a loss.
<Mmm, can likely effect a simple repair here>
The crack, definitely not crazing since I can feel a separation, starts from a
corner round of the large cutout and extends about 3 inch toward one of the six
sides. One more inch and it is going to hit the side edge! I've
been reading about using Weld-On and applying an acrylic panel to the crack.
<Yes>
Also is drilling a hole at the end of the crack going to stop it?
<Not likely useful, necessary>
Can I get Weld-On at Home Depot if I were to try this?
<Best to seek out from a "Plastics" supply... look in your local
Business Yellow Pages Directory re>
Should I worry about this crack since it is only on the top panel?
<Mmm, not much to worry about, but I would solvent it closed>
The tank is a standard 55 gal hex 24x24x28.
It's funny how things go wrong and just seem to spiral even more. I
bought the tank intending to make it a new home for my white-mouth eel about
15in, who has managed to eaten two smaller fish. Well he attacked and
ate my 6-7 inch lunare wrasse last night. I couldn't believe he was
able to swallow the wrasse or even catch it. What a sight! Thanks
<Welcome... an easy project/fix... Bob Fenner>
Repairing acrylic leaker 3/7/06
Hello, We are searching for someone who can fix the leak in the seam of our
large (8'W x 4'H x 2"D) acrylic salt water tank.
<<Eeek!! A difficult challenge at the least!>>
The owner has said that he sign a waiver that relieves the repair person of
responsibility if the repair does not hold.
<<While there are several ways that this can be repaired, no sane repair person
will guarantee this work. The best looking and safest repair will require
emptying the tank, cleaning out the defect and filling the void with a two part
polymerizing adhesive. A cheap and aesthetically non-pleasing repair could be
made by gluing an acrylic splint inside the defect with two-part or solvent
adhesive after cleaning the area with sandpaper. >>
The leak is small and is coming from the front left seam, about half way up the
tank. The tank currently is filled to below this level and still has fish in
it. Can you recommend anyone that could take this sort of job
on? Regards, Jennifer Ferguson, Woodwork Creations
<<I don't know of anyone to recommend. Beware that any repair does not address
why this occurred in the first place... was the tank properly built to begin
with? Is catastrophic failure imminent? Was the stand out of
level? Personally, I would strongly consider replacing the tank with one built
by a reputable builder. Best Regards. AdamC.>>
Leaking Acrylic Sump...Silicone Not the Answer - 12/12/06
Hi and thank you all for your support and knowledge.
<<Hello...is our privilege to share>>
I have had my reef tank for over a year now with good success. I am attempting
to build a custom-size sump inside the stand of my 125 gallon running reef. I
purchased the 3/8" acrylic and had it cut to size so the fit seems to be
good. I used Weldon-3 in all of the seams. I then let it dry and used
Weldon-16 to form a bead around the seams.
<<Hmm, shouldn't be necessary if the pieces are bonded correctly with the
Weldon-3, but won't hurt either. If you really want to "strengthen" the
corners/seams, you could cement in triangular shaped corner braces (these are
offered/can be found "pre-made" on the Net)>>
I filled the sump with ½-inch of water and the water leaks out of the seams.
<<Mmm, perhaps the "fit" was not as good as you perceived. For the Weldon-3 to
work properly the joints must fit precisely to allow the cement to be drawn-in
by capillary action>>
I tried to put another heavy coat of Weld-on-16 and let it dry overnight. This
also leaked.
<<Hmm...just spreading it over the surface isn't likely to help as you've
discovered, but if you can "force" this thicker bodied cement in to the joints
you might be able to fill the gaps/leaks. If the leaks are many/large you will
probably have to either cut the pieces apart and recondition the mating
surfaces...or have new acrylic cut/prepped and start over>>
The acrylic shop said I should use 100 percent silicone to fix the leaks because
it stretches.
<<A poor suggestion/option in my opinion...the silicone will not adhere well to
the acrylic and though this may seem to work at first the silicon will
eventually fail and leak...probably when you happen to be away for an extended
period>>
I read on your website that silicon is not the best answer.
<<Correct>>
Do you think this will work only for sealing the water and not for the structure
of the sump?
<<A poor solution for the former and disastrous for the latter>>
I also noticed the Weldon-16 does evaporate so the seal does become much thinner
when dry.
<<Yes, the cement shrinks as it cures>>
Thank you.
Darrell
<<I would try the thicker cement again, using a finger run along the joint to
force it in (do make sure everything is "completely dry"). If you aren't able
to seal the gaps this way then your best/safest option in my opinion is to
remove this sump and rebuild/start anew. Regards, EricR>> <If this fails, RMF
suggests securing a length of doweling (acrylic) cut to fit in the corners (I'd
do all inside seams while you're at it)... With the Weld-On... Make sure and
examine the doweling closely... it is often convex on two sides... you want the
two flat sides against the current acrylic panels.>
Acrylics, leaks and silicone? 1/17/07
Hello<,> I have a question.
<<Hello! We got answers!>>
I have a<n> older large acrylic fish tank<.> <I>t has several leaks on the
bottom where the seam is<.>
<<Yeeow! Talk about a bummer. Older, meaning "out of warranty"? >>
I tried to silicone the outside but it made the leak worst <worse.>
<<Two things. One: You don't ever seal leaks from the outside. It just doesn't
work that way. Two: Acrylic needs to be welded to make a seal, using solvents,
not goops. A popular method of bolstering every seam in your acrylic tank is to
use acrylic dowels (square) and bond them to every seam. This procedure and more
available at:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acrylictkrepfaqs.htm >>
<H>ow does <do> I fix this<?> <T>hanks. William.
<<You got it, W.
-Graham T>>>
Cracked Tank
Hi there Bob I just cracked the bottom of my 180 gallon acrylic tank. Its
okay it was empty. The crack maybe about 10"long. I would like to repair
this problem if possible. Someone had mentioned to use "Weld On (I forgot
the number) and attach a new piece of plexi-glass to the bottom, he also said
that even if I glued the new piece on to the bottom the crack may continue to
grow until it reaches the edge.
<Yes... I'd plan on this... you can likely make a good repair by solventing
(actually the process here... not gluing) another thinner sheet of acrylic onto
the bottom of the existing one... over the crack and all else.>
To remedy this problem I thought about drilling a small hole at the two ends of
the crack to stop the crack from growing. Do you think this is a good idea? or
do you have any other suggestions?
I look forward to your input,
<Do ask the folks at acrylic fabricating shops in your area, over the Net
what they would do as well. I would solvent a piece onto the bottom and router
off the edges. Bob Fenner>
James
Cracked acrylic tank
Do you see anyway of repairing this type of thing? Could I drain the
tank down and try some sort of glue? Is there anything I could try
before giving this thing up completely?
<Sorry to hear of this major problem. I would contact an acrylic manufacturer
about repairing this tank although I hold little hope for repair. You would be
safer just getting a new tank. At the very least I would empty this tank ASAP
and follow the suggestions from the last email. You don't want to put this off
until the whole tank spills on the floor>
Thanks for your patience with me. :)
<No problem...That's what we're here for! David Dowless>
Acrylic tank-?
I have built a corner tank with bent corners( had a fab company bend) which
cost a pretty penny. I tested it out and there was a very small leak so I went
back and applied more solvent and tested again, no leaks. I have had water in it
for about 3 weeks just to see if there would be leaks after a period of time and
there were none. In some of the seams though there is some air bubbles I have
tried to fill them in with solvent but it does not seep into the bubbles leading
me to believe that the edges are sealed. Do you think that these bubbles could
present problems in the future or what do you think?
<Likely not a problem if it hasn't been so to date. Bob Fenner>
Thanks for the info,
James
Wesley
Acrylic tank leak
Hello. I recently purchased a used 125 acrylic tank and it has a
leak.
There is a crack on the bottom right near the front of the tank. It
does go all
the way through the tank and that is where the leak is. I was
wondering if I
could glue another piece of acrylic or Plexiglas along the bottom of the tank
(inside) all along the front edge. If that will work, what would you
use to
glue it? Should I use crazy glue and activator on the crack first? Please
help!!!
<You can solvent (not really a glue... as there is nothing left between the
melded materials) a piece of acrylic here (look for "square doweling"
at an acrylic outlet (it's only truly flush on two of the four sides, and you
want to fit these two against the existing panels). Look for Weld-on products
for solvent. Bob Fenner>
Thank you,
Ron
Tru Vu (acrylic tank re) Repair
Howdy,
<Hi there>
I am very glad I located your site and appreciate the valuable information
you offer. I am in the process of repairing a 55 GAL Tru Vu acrylic aquarium
which has some minor leaks.
<Very unusual... I sold these tanks for several years... none were defective, or
became so>
I am concerned because I used the traditional
method for a glass aquarium and the tank is acrylic. Last night I applied
DAP 100% Silicone Aquarium Sealant to the length of the interior joints.
<Oops>
Do you happen to know if Aquarium Sealant is going to work or if I need to
get out a razor blade and start all over with the Weld-On product you
mention in your postings???
<You do need to cut out the silicone and use the solvent. Bob Fenner>
Please advise.
Sincerely,
Dan May
Help!! Tank blow out!
Bob
I have a tank that is 45 13/16 inches wide by 94 1/2 inches long by 33 7/8
inches tall
One of the long sides blew out due someone putting their full body weight on
the top while retrieving a fish. It first just popped the seam by a couple of
inches and this guy said he new how to repair acrylic tanks. But as you can
imagine he has disappeared. Now I have no one who can repair my tank.
Desperately seeking an acrylic tank repair person in Downey, California.
Sincerely,
JC Benavides
<The tank can be repaired... should be drained, dried, and a square dowel
inserted in the (I would do the whole inside edges) inside corners... take care
to look carefully at and MARK the outside edges of the doweling that are curved
(IMPORTANT: Note that only two of the four dowel edges are flush, the other two
are concave...) and all solvented into place. Bob Fenner>
Tru-vu built-in overflow question
I just got a used Tru-vu 100 gallon long (60x18x20) tank with 2 overflow on
each corner.
Question is internal overflow size is about 6x6 do you know how much gph is
rated? I could not find this info from Tru-vu
website...
<What is the diameter of the through-puts? You might call them as well>
I was thinking about using 1140gph external pump on this tank but maybe this
overflow draw more water than 600gph...
<? What?>
Also due to moving this tank (forgot to take off bulkhead during move) on both
side near overflow area I have crack (not near by edge but near by internal
overflow L shape area) which is about 2 inch (Both overflow area affected)
<Bunk! Happens all the time.>
I put 1/2" tick (5x2 and 3x2)acrylic outside of overflow L shape and inside
overflow square shape acrylic (2x2) and glue them with tape plastic's glue do
you think this will be enough?....
<Should be... I hope you're referring to having solvented pieces over the
cracked areas and holes and re-drilling them>
once I have about 100lbs liverock 100lbs live sand and water... I am getting
worried...
<I would fill and test it... outdoors>
Maybe I should send you some pictures...
Thanks
Chris
<Bob Fenner>
Help! Acrylic Tank Leaking 07/02/05
Hello All! <Hello Tammy>
Have been rabidly searching your site (lots of great information here)
for about 45 minutes. I've found a few suggestions to the problem I'm
having, but was still a bit fuzzy on the execution. (one recommended
using dowels)
The short short version is this: I have a 110 gallon acrylic tank.
Used for Saltwater. It is only about 4 years old. I bought it new.
It has only been moved once since setup - I emptied it entirely and had
it moved by pro's. It has been in this apartment for 18 months
without incident. Tonight I decided it was time for the water change
and drained off about 30 gallons. The front has always tended to bow
- but I was assured by the folks at the store that this was Ok. I
suspect something about the weight change made a seam leak - because
all of the sudden I had a steady drip-drip-drip in 4 places under my
tank. (anywhere the stand was drilled or even seamed it leaked
through) And before I got the wild idea to try and improve the water
quality - there was no leak. (I'd been under the tank changing the
filter pad and carbon in the sump first - so I'm certain of the "no
leak" report). So Yikes! So after deciding that all future tank
work should be done during normal business hours, I flipped over some
Rubbermaid bins, wiped them out - and started transferring water from
the tank and the fish. I now have an upside-down playpen over the bin
safeguarding the fish from my three inquisitive cats and 3lb dog.
I've got the air and heater running in their bin, so I think they're Ok
for now - though certainly not liking the close quarters.
Where should I start? Are acrylic tanks typically warranted? Do
you expect I'll get anything other than a "good luck" if I phone the
store? I know I'll need to scrub out the tank now - anything that you
would recommend to make sure that it's completely clean for repair?
Usually I just use my scrubby on a stick and lots of elbow grease...
but since I have the chance to take it down and really go to town on it
now - didn't know if you'd recommend something. Once I've got it
clean - Where do I begin to look for help locally? I believe the leak
is in the bottom seams because I got down to less than 5 inches of
water and still kept dripping. Is there something I can do myself? I
really hadn't budgeted for a tank replacement - and I'm afraid this is
my first leak. The fact that I'm on the 3rd floor and got thru the
whole incident without leaking onto the folks downstairs has me
reasonably confident that I could follow DIY instructions should you
have any for me.... :) Also - I'm a little worried that the leaking
could damage the structural integrity of the stand... Is that being
over-cautious? Or do I have more problems? My father will come over
tomorrow and help me lift the tank down for cleaning and I'll get a
better view. Maybe could put the hairdryer on anything still damp?
Thank you SO Much in advance for your help! And Happy 4th of July!
Tammy <Tammy, you need to start at the store where you bought it. Most tanks
have at least a five year warranty. At the same time, email the tank
manufacturer about the leak problem. Most will repair or even send a new one
upon receipt of the defective tank. James (Salty Dog)><<RMF would
actually start by filling the tank up outside... with newspaper under it,
trying to see if it is actually the tank itself leaking... very likely it
his a hang-on device instead.>>
Re: Help! Acrylic Tank Leaking
Hi Salty! <Hello Redhead>
Yeah, well you would think they would stand behind the goods, but the
store where I bought the tank has changed hands - and the new owner
indicated that he thinks that the guy that they bought it from was
hiring local acrylic shops to build tanks - as opposed to selling tanks
from national manufacturers. The guy was a little dodgy as far as
when I would mention looking for my warrantee paperwork, he would just
say that he was sure whomever made the tank was certainly out of
business. (which I loosely translated into - I'm not honoring a
warrantee?) Then the guy sat and wanted to sell me a new tank, new
stand, and then he tried to flirt. No game either. Don't get me
started. I considered telling him that I was flattered, but that I
was in a relationship and that my boyfriend was an attorney - loosely
translated, You'd better honor my warrantee or I'll sue cause I have
free legal. LOL! <I'm thinking when a store is sold the new owner isn't
responsible to honor any warranties, especially since he didn't make any money
on it.> But I really didn't want to continue the conversation. Just
awful. Instead of staying on point about my
tank, kept talking about what a pretty redhead I am - (my hair is DARK
Brown) Doh! Lousy service and just no game. :) Ugh.
My tank is a 110 gallon - measures 48 inches long, and 18 inches wide
front to back, and 30 inches tall. It doesn't look like Tenecor makes
a standard tank with those dimensions. Oh! And Thanks for the tip on
the self drill -vs.- ordered drilled. Important Safety Tip.
Now if eBay is a marker of what's out there - the folks making tanks
like mine brag that they're using the 1/2 inch - not that crap 3/8 that
a lot of people try to get by with. (dunno if that's true - that
people use the 3/8, that is)
Tenecor does show a 140 tall:
This model features bent (seamless) front corners. Includes a clear
acrylic top with
filter slots, access hole(s) and matching lid(s). Dimensions are 60"L
x 18"W x 30"H
Price: $913.00
While I can't find any documentation on their site as to the thickness
of the acrylic, I did find a posting on another site talking about the
thickness of acrylic to be used... I've included the post content
below, but the gent says that his company uses 1/2 inch thick acrylic
for tanks up to 30 inches tall and 600 gallons. He also mentions
recommended/Ok "bow" measurements. What to expect with glass and
acrylic. Dunno if it's correct - but thought I'd pass it along as
well in case your interested.
Tomorrow I plan on calling my LFS that I trust - and then calling their
suggestion for an acrylic shop. I'll pass along the prices and info
that I get in case it's ever of any use to you or yours. :) <If you don't live
in a big town it may be difficult to find an acrylic shop willing to build an
aquarium and guarantee it for a reasonable amount of time. Keep in mind if you
are or will be keeping corals, the deeper the tank the more wattage you are
going to require. James (Salty Dog)>
Thanks again & Happy 4th!
Tammy
(Damaged) Acrylic tank assessment 7/4/05
I am sorry this is such a long post. I just don't
know what exactly is pertinent information, so when
you know enough just stop reading. Reading the posts
made me think really hard, and try to be perhaps too
observant. I posted here because you seemed to know a
lot about tank integrity.
<Okay>
I brought home a free acrylic (I think, are there
other plastics for tanks?)
<Mmm, really only very small ones... acrylic/s have many names, are about all of
the same composition>
tank today. It is a TruVu
brand, 16 deep 18 wide 60 long. There are cracks in
the top and I don't know the owner (neighbor of an
ex-boyfreind), so I can't get the history of the tank.
It looks like it belonged to a fraternity (stickers
and spray-paint and graffiti). My ex- did say he was
told it doesn't leak.
<Actual cracks or just crazing? Can you feel breaks in the material? These are
indicative of cracking>
I am afraid it will fail. I am not concerned about a
slow failure, I am afraid that some of the cracks will
just split with no warning after the tank is in use
some time. I also see what I think is some crazing.
<Ah, I see>
I haven't filled the tank to test it because I wonder
if I should repair it first. The link to the repair
story is broken, so I couldn't read it.
<Unfortunately there is no such piece... just haven't gotten around to writing
it...>
If there is a
quick easy fix that may hold this tank together, I
will do that first.
<It may be that the cracks can just be ignored (fill this tank outside and see
how it does), otherwise, the solvent used to weld the tank panels together may
be used to anneal the cracked portions (call, write TruVu re Weld-On...). At
worst, another panel (thin) of the same size, cut-outs may be solvented to the
top/cracked one>
CRACKS:
These may have been produced by heat, as I read in
other posts. My reasons for thinking so are that the
top of the tank is warped, and there is a small area
of the top that looks like it may be air bubbles.
Does acrylic "Boil" from heat? Also, the edges of the
cracks are warped and do not match each other.
<Warping is common... these tanks bend quite a bit with use/time... boiling is
very bad>
If the cracks were caused by heat, might the tank be
compromised to the point that it will fail, because
the top is an important structural member?
<Doubtful, but a possibility>
My reasons for thinking it is not heat is I do not
see any blackening or discoloration. Also, one crack
actually extends down the side of the tank about an
inch. Could this crack be from an impact?
<Yes, most likely... am starting to have glimpses of "Animal House">
I haven't filled the tank to test it because I wonder
if I should repair it first. The link to the repair
story is broken, so I couldn't read it. If there is a
quick easy fix that may hold this tank together, I
will do that first.
There are four cracks in the top of the aquarium,
they all run from a corner of the large cut out to the
side of the aquarium.
<These are best repaired per above>
The two in the back run from the side cutout to the
1-1/4 diameter hole, to the back of the tank. One
CONTINUES down the side of the tank about an inch,
this portion of the crack is not perpendicular, but
actually at an oblique angle to the tanks surface.
<Also best repaired>
The tank top has two rectangular cut-outs, two smaller
rectangular cutouts, six 1/4"D circular holes, and 2
circular holes about 1-1/4 "D. One of the 1-1/4 inch
holes is not really circular, it looks as if a smaller
hole was drilled off center of the larger one, however
the edges are nice and smooth, so I don't know if
these holes were homemade, or poor quality control of
the manufacturer. But the crack is not located near
this bump.
CRAZING:
It is a really sunny day and I noticed when looking
obliquely at the tank outside that there was a
glittery sheen inside the acrylic. It seemed to be
pretty uniform throughout the back surface of the
aquarium, and I did not see any direction to it, just
little spots of glitter. I could not see them on the
other sides of the aquarium, but this could be because
I did not turn the tank to the same angle. I suspect
that it is crazing. (If not, what could it be?)
<Likely crazing... though could be marks from solvent, local pressure or heat
stress>
I cannot see it at all when the aquarium is viewed
straight on. And I don't think I could see it in
indoor lighting. Is a certain amount of crazing a
normal occurrence? Does it happen in every tank?
<Is common>
USE:
When I first saw the tank, I thought that it wasn't
very useful for a display tank. Now I am thinking
that it actually would look pretty funky as a type of
urban community tank. What do you think of this
idea?
Thank you,
Mary
<If you have the time, interest, worth trying to effect a repair. Bob Fenner>
Re: Acrylic tank assessment 7/6/05
Thank you for your reply. I was unsure about how to
weld the cracks closed. The edges don't line up, and
in some cases, the irregularities of the edges get in
the way of realigning the acrylic.
I took the tank into TAP plastics today. They
suggested that I drill a small hole at the end of the
crack before I weld. This will relieve any stress at
that point from the misalignment.
<Interesting>
This makes sense.
(Lucky that all the cracks end one inch from the top.)
It is consistent with the reason that larger diameter
corners are stronger, the stress is distributed over a
larger area.
<Yes>
The weld-on #16 cost $3.05. The piece of scrap would
have been $1, but he threw it in for free. Must have
felt sorry for me, trying to save such a pitiful tank.
He should only see my car! LOL!
<Likely>
He thought the warp on the cross member would not
affect its strength, and that I don't need to
reinforce it.
<Okay>
He had no idea about the crazing unless it was a
solvent. I suppose its possible the gut tried
cleaning it with something weird. But I really don't
think so, it is so evenly distributed.
<Is just "stress" over time mainly>
I just wanted to share with you the idea of drilling.
Wow a 75 gallon tank for $3.05! I'll let you know
how things go with my experiment.
<I'd appreciate this>
I will drill the holes, wash the tank (soap and water
he said)
<Mmm, no... avoid soaps, detergents... toxic to aquatic life, hard to remove,
leave a film... water and vinegar, possibly straight vinegar (white) for
"scale"...>
and weld a piece of scrap over each crack. I
am toying with the idea of welding an acrylic divider
in the middle to compartmentalize it into two tanks,
but I haven't decided yet.
<Mmm, worth considering... but hard to change later>
I would prefer a removable
divider, but since the acrylic will flex, I don't know
how I could do this.
<There are commercially made dividers, but these are a bit flimsy for this sort
of tank>
Right now I really could use
smaller tanks.
Well its time to stop blathering, and see if this idea
will hold water!
Mary
<Real good. Bob Fenner>