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FAQs about Pistol (including Goby) Shrimps, Identification
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Pistol Shrimp Hitchhiker: Coral
Commensal – Coralliocaris spp. 5/24/09
Hi Guys, Janet here.
<Hi Janet, Lynn here today>
I bought a colony of Acropora last week and have found 2 hitchhikers in it.
<Neat!>
I know that Acropora generally will come with an Acro crab, but these little
guys are shrimps.
<They sure are. They’re small coral commensals, in the genus Coralliocaris
(only around 8-9 species recognized at this time). Unfortunately, I was
unable to find photos of each species for comparison, but I did find one
that looks similar enough to be a definite possibility. This species,
Coralliocaris graminea, varies in color, but has the same thin, longitudinal
lines on the body, as well as orange-ish tipped legs and claws. Please see
the following links for comparison/more info:
http://tolweb.org/onlinecontributors/app?page=ViewImageData&service=external&sp=26879
http://www.vanaqua.org/aquanews/field/images/yaqara.htm
http://www.seadb.univpm.it/en_Green-Acropora-commensal-shrimp-Coralliocaris-graminea_587.htm
Also, if you happen to have Helmut Debelius’ book, Crustacea Guide Of The
World (2nd edition), see page 189. Reportedly, this Acropora commensal
reaches about 1cm in length and is indigenous to the Indo-West Pacific
region.>
They were inside the Acropora colony, and I managed to "spook" them out and
get them into a container for a picture and to make sure they were reef safe
etc. I am attaching a picture of one of the two.
<Super, thanks>
The other one has no claws, but is identical other than that. The 2 of them
must have had a tussle and one ended up with no claws out of the deal?
<Perhaps yes, or it could have been due to rough transit/handling when
collected, shipped, etc.>
I currently have them in a 10g emergency tank. Do these guys eat Acro?
<Not according to what I’ve read. They’re commensals that likely have little
negative impact on the colony.>
It is even a pistol shrimp?
<No. Although these shrimps do use their claws to make clicking/snapping
noises, they’re not actually what we consider pistol shrimps (family
Alpheidae). They belong to another family: Palaemonidae, subfamily
Pontoniidae. This group of shrimps doesn’t have the same formidable snapping
ability of the Alpheids. Also of note is that the claws of Coralliocaris
species are matched in size, whereas those of the Alpheids are markedly
different. For more in-depth info on snapping claws, please see this pdf
file: http://decapoda.nhm.org/pdfs/27238/27238.pdf . It’s probably more than
you ever wanted to know, but it’s interesting!>
The Acro colony has had some die off which occurred after getting it home a
few days later.
<Can happen sometimes>
I have another smaller colony of Acropora, but this piece is fine.
<Excellent>
Because of the die off I started taking a look at the colony to see if I
could determine what may be happening to it. This is when I noticed these
little guys. I actually managed to nab both of them in my 75 gallon tank
without losing them and then moved them to the 10 gallon tank. As you can
see by the picture of the shrimp in my hand, they are very tiny.
<Yep, that’s typical for these guys. The genus as a whole generally ranges
in size from 1-2cm.>
This is a picture of the larger one too. Can you provide any information as
to what they are, and if they are reef safe or not. Do they prey on Acropora
only or any sps coral?
<I haven’t come across anything indicating that they’re parasitic, or
harmful to corals at all, so you should be okay.>
Thanks, Janet
<You’re very welcome. Take care, LynnZ>
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Re: Pistol Shrimp Hitchhiker:
Coral Commensal – Coralliocaris spp. 5/25/09
<Hi Janet>
Well, thanks for the great info on my little shrimps.
<You’re very welcome.>
I have left them in the 10 gallon as I don't think they will keep up
with my 75 gallon crew of fish and crustaceans. I have a maroon clown,
with a rose bubble anemone and she is rather a misery and huge! I love
her though and would not part with her.
<I can sure understand. I used to have a tomato clown with all the charm
of a rabid wolverine but I loved her anyway.>
Also a Yellow Tang, tiny Hippo Tang, 1 Coral Perch and 2 Chromis, 2
blood shrimp, 1 coral banded,
<Watch out for this guy. They’ve been known to kill other shrimps,
hermits and the like.>
..and 1 cleaner shrimp as well as the regular snails, hermits, serpent
stars (also finding baby serpent stars by the dozen, and also moving
them too), and last, 2 sand sifting stars.
<These are neat creatures, but don’t do well in most systems.
Unfortunately, they wipe out the sandbed fauna then starve.>
I also have a Yellow Watchman Goby, and he is paired with a tiger pistol
shrimp.
<Love this combination>
That's another reason why I questioned if these 2 were in fact pistol
shrimps. I did notice that the little guys’ claws were the same size
each, but had what looks like the little snapper.
<Yep, the claws look just like a pistol shrimp’s.>
I don't think that whoever shipped this colony of Acropora would have
known they were in there do you think?
<I seriously doubt it. Those shrimps are small, cryptically colored, and
know how to hide within the coral’s branches.>
Sadly there has been more die off and I don't see the Acropora crab in
there anymore.
<Oh? I didn’t realize you had a crab hitchhiker as well - neat.>
Do the Acropora crabs leave the colony if it's not doing well, or do
they die?
<I imagine they stick with the coral until it’s pretty well dead, then
move on to another.>
This particular piece was large and nice. It may have been in rough
shape when I bought it, hence the "sale" price.
<Yep, that’s usually a clue that’s something’s not quite right.>
I may be able to salvage some by fragging it. Does this make sense
<Yes, that is if you can’t return it for a refund/credit. Be sure to
look over the "Coral Pests and Disease" page (link below) so you can get
a better idea of what’s going on with the coral. If it’s rapidly turning
white/losing tissue, it could be RTN (rapid tissue necrosis) or “white
band disease”. If that’s the case, you’ll want to remove the coral and
frag it immediately. In the case of pests, follow the instructions given
for each: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corldisart.html
More info on Acropora selection, issues, here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acropt3.htm
Good site with a key for diagnosing coral disease:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mccarty_and_peters/coral/Stonyq0.htm
>
..and how should I frag it?
<If it’s RTN/WBD, break off healthy pieces well away from any white
areas.>
I have a 30 gallon tall seahorse tank too, but there is also a blue
pistol shrimp in with them. What is your suggestion about where I could
keep these guys?
<Optimally, I’d recommend keeping them with an Acropora colony. I wasn’t
able to find any information regarding the exact diet of these shrimps.
They may be like some commensal crabs in that they feed, at least
partially, on the mucus produced by the coral. I honestly just don’t
know.>
What about feeding?
<I would try offering a variety of foods and see what they like,
including small meaty bits of marine origin (Mysis shrimp, silverside,
etc), along with some good quality sinking pellets or even flake food.>
I can just leave them in the 10 gallon as there is nothing detrimental
to them in there. If they are fine in the tank I don't want to part with
them. Did I end up with a rare find!!???
<Well, it’s not something you see every day, but I have run across other
reports of hobbyists finding these shrimps within their corals. I do
believe however, that this is the first time we’ve ID’d them here at
WWM!>
If the Acropora doesn't make it should I give the skeleton to them for
cover?
<Sure, as long as there’s no lingering disease or pests that might be
introduced to any other resident corals.>
It would be a shame to have the entire colony die, I hope to salvage
what I can.
<I sure hope you can too.>
You see when I got it home from the store, I obviously dripped it and
then added it to the large tank. Sometimes I take a turkey baster and
clean the rock of detritus and such. When I did this around that colony,
a lot of the "flesh" pretty much just blew away exposing the white
skeleton.
<Ouch, not good>
I'd only had it a few days. I have a T5 HO lighting system. Are these
sufficient for this type of coral,
<Given enough bulbs and good placement, sure.>
..because I don't want to buy something that won't survive in my tank,
until I can change the lighting system if required.
<Good thinking. For more information on SPS system requirements, please
see this link: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acropt3.htm >
This is a great site! And thank you so much for the extremely quick
response.
Thanks LynnZ
<You’re very welcome. It’s always nice to chat with fellow hobbyists
about such neat little creatures! Take care, LynnZ>
Re: Pistol Shrimp Hitchhiker: Coral
Commensal – Coralliocaris spp. Follow-up 5/25/09
Janet here again:
<Hi Janet>
I noted that you stated the sand sifting stars deplete the sand bed and
eventually starve. I have had mine for at least 2-3 years now and they
are still doing fine.
<That’s terrific. They don’t fare well in most systems, long term. Two
to three years though, is definitely long term!>
Although I have heard that theory as well. You weren't referring to the
brittle/serpent stars were you?
<Nope, just the sand sifters.>
I have also heard that the coral bandeds can be devils, but mine has
been ok.
<Good, hopefully he’ll stay that way!>
However, that said I did lose a cleaner shrimp. Actually never found it
again at all and did think it may have been him that nabbed him.
<It’s possible, yes.>
The cleaner shrimp was fairly small. As per your suggestion, I did frag
up the rest of the coral that was salvaged from the Acro colony.
<What was one colony can now turn into many!>
I also fed the little shrimps some or rather a few mysis shrimp.
<Sounds good>
Thanks again for your help.
<You’re very welcome. Take care, LynnZ>
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Mantis or Pistol 9/22/08 Hi Crew! <Craig> This
is an awesome site…great job. <Thanks> My question is regarding a
clicking noise in my 55G reef tank. I know the likely culprit is a
Mantis or a Pistol shrimp. I have scoured your site and others and have
seen many times the pistol shrimp’s clicks are typically single or in
two’s. I have noticed the clicking for a couple of months only after the
lights go out. It was normally one click at a time and sometimes as many
as two clicks every 30 minutes or so. Tonight I distinctly heard three
clicks in a row. Five or ten minutes later I heard only a single click.
Should I be concerned? <If you're missing valuable animals, yes. This
is likely a Pistol> I had recently written the clicks off as a pistol
shrimp. But the frequency exceeded the normal one or two clicks for a
Pistol. I have not lost a fish or invert in this tank for many months.
The only losses were the result of an uneducated purchase of Banggai
Cardinals that refused to eat. My biggest concern is over my Tiger
Sleeper Goby and by Blue Spot Jawfish (which was well worth the high
price tag and is easily my favorite fish). I have not seen any burrows
(other than the one my Blue Spot resides in) or any molts (other than
from my hermits and Skunk Cleaner Shrimp). What should I do…if anything?
Craig <I'd hold off for now, continue observing... There may be an
Alpheid here... that the fish are steering clear of, perhaps the Tiger
Goby conspiring with. The Pistol can be baited out some time later
should it prove problematical. Bob Fenner> Pistol
Shrimp ID and commensal host 8/4/03 Good morning, <cheers>
Just a quick id question. I have a small tank that as made up of "dead"
rock, it is stocked with a few hermits, and a couple of sergeant majors
I netted in Florida. <hardy but ferocious fishes> I also
collected some various Caulerpa in Florida (palm beach area). Here is
the kicker now I have a new little friend who just sort of appeared (my
guess hitch hiked in with the Caulerpa). It is definitely a pistol
shrimp, but I can't find any info that has helped to identify the
species. <do seek "Reef Creatures: by Humann and DeLoach> It has a
bright blue head, and bright orange "arms" and claws. Just to satisfy
my curiosity do you have an idea on the species? <hard to say
without a pic> Also I was thinking of sticking one of the shrimp
gobies in with him, which would be the best species? <you may very
well have trouble finding a Pacific shrimp goby to accept this Atlantic
pistol. The pistol you have may not even be commensal with
gobies/fishes. They are often commensal with echinoderms or other
organisms altogether. Lets get a positive ID first and then seek a
buddy> Thanks for your help! <best regards, Anthony>
Synalpheus stimpsonii Hi Bob I am interested in pictures of
the crinoid-associated Synalpheus stimpsonii posted on your website.
I work on taxonomy of the family Alpheidae and believe that S.
stimpsonii is a species complex (5 species have been described and later
put in synonymy of S. stimpsonii but I doubt that they are all the
same). By the way, Alpheus bellulus is a species complex, too,
with at least 2 new cryptic species to be described. I would
greatly appreciate if you could send me slide duplicates or high
resolution jpgs of these 3 pictures and other Alpheid shrimps; of
course, all photos will be used exclusively for scientific purposes and
all photographers will be acknowledged. All the best Arthur --
Dr. Arthur Anker Department of Biological Sciences - Zoology
University of Alberta Edmonton Canada T6G 2E9 <You are welcome to
the use of any/all of my slide work on this group. Am about to scoot out
of town, so am asking Jason Chodakowski here to follow-up with you re
re-scans, searching the files here for what we have. Cheers. Bob Fenner>
Bob, Take Some Pictures For Me, Please? - Synalpheus stimpsonii
Bob, I hope you'll have a chance to take some pics of shrimps and other
crusties in the Marquesas, for instance, I have nothing from this region
my friend Joseph Poupin did some work on decapod crustaceans of the
French Polynesia (he has a website, too), but as usual shrimps
(especially Alpheids) are really poorly represented and illustrated
today I also saw your wonderful pontoniine shots. cheers, A --
Dr. Arthur Anker Department of Biological Sciences - Zoology
University of Alberta Edmonton Canada T6G 2E9 <Will do my best. Am
taking 35mm rigs with macro diopters, mainly Velvia (ISO 50) film... and
some tried/true Nikonos and 28mm. framer sets... so we'll see. Would you
like me to cc you on the above groups image work vis a vis scans of what
is deemed worth scanning? Bob F> Pistol Shrimp Hello
all, In my 3 month old 12g tank with 20lbs of Marshall live rock,
I've had clicking or popping noises coming from one area of my tank from
the beginning. Early on after first hearing the noises I pulled my rock
and dipped it in carbonated water in the hopes of shaking loose a mantis
or pistol shrimp but no luck. I've been reading all sorts of posts on
noises like this and the consensus seems to be that its either a mantis,
pistol or my hermits might be slugging it out. I'm leaning toward ruling
out the hermits as the cause as my two Scarlets are the most lazy
creatures in my tank and I don't see them putting forth the effort to
sling their shell at anyone and my dwarf blue hermits are so small that
I can't imagine they can generate enough oompf to make such a loud
clicking. So I figure it has to be one of the two shrimp. What
confuses me is that its been almost three months of this and my head
count for all my critters appears ok so if its a mantis what's he
beating on? Also, I've been peeking at my tank after lights out almost
every night (about 2 hours after lights off) and usually in the morning
too (about 5am) - wouldn't I get a peek at who ever this is or would
they lay that low? And the stupid things have to grow so won't it
eventually have to out grow whatever space he's in thus possibly
revealing himself? And I guess the last thought was could it be
something else? I hear everything from 1 to 4 clicks in some sort of
succession almost every day and usually more than once. I've read that
Pistols usually click in twos and Mantis will beat on something until
they get dinner. I have not tried to trap yet as I'm not sure its
really a Mantis I'm dealing with. And having past my cycle I'm not
excited about the idea of pulling my rock again but I will if I find
evidence that something has been killed. Currently the tank has 2
very small false Percs, a dozen snails, 7 hermits and a Skunk cleaner
shrimp - all happily going about their business as best as I can tell.
Thoughts? <Matt I am almost sure it is a pistol shrimp, I have one
and know what you're talking about. If it were a mantis, your cleaner
shrimp would be history along with some hermits and possible the clowns.
Pistol shrimp aren't bad to have in the tank. You will very seldom see
them during the day. If mine smells food I can see his antennae waving
out his hole. They do occasionally move from time to time setting up new
quarters. This will be evident by gravel looking like it was bulldozed
around his hole. James (Salty Dog)> Much thanks, Matt Selchow
<You're welcome> Raising a Pistol Shrimp (3/23/05)
I have a few questions regarding a pistol shrimp. <Shoot. BTW,
please capitalize the proper noun "I" and the first letter of sentences.
Also, please use punctuation like periods and question marks. We post
all queries and replies on our site permanently and want them as
readable as possible. Our volunteer crew will have a lot more time to
answer queries if they don't have to proofread them. Not only that, some
of us older presbyopics have a hard time reading unpunctuated text.
Thanks, Steve Allen.> I just got him from my LFS and he is a baby I
want to raise him and then pair him with a watchman goby... <I have a
pair in my tank. They're very attractive and interesting to watch.>
... but I am not sure how long it will take to raise him large enough.
What he should be eating as a baby and if the species I have is
compatible with a watchman? <What species do you have? Many genus
Alpheus burrowing shrimps will for this symbiotic relationship. As for
foods, if the shrimp is very small, then you will need something very
fine such as Cyclop-Eeze. If big enough, it will take just about any
frozen food such as Mysis. Many will take ground flake foods or tiny
pellets. The shrimp should be big enough to be with the goby when it's
too big to be eaten and is burrowing.> He is opaque with black
stripes and he looks like he's wearing a prison jumpsuit. <I'd
suggest you compare with pictures in a book that has a lot of shrimp
pictures. If you can send me a clear picture, I may be able to help, but
I cannot make an identification based on this description. I hope this
info is helpful.> Pistol or Mantis? and adding fish
12/28/05 Hi Crew! Hope you all had a great holiday. So since
the 6 months from my first e-mail to you, things have gone very
well. Tank is very stable, and my skeptical wife now loves it. We
spend at least an hour every evening after we put our daughter down for
the night just watching the tank and talking. <Ahhh!> She has
named all the fish and has identified personalities in all of
them. Even the dog gets into the act. (Dog barks when my smaller
ocellaris "surfs" the current from my Sea-swirl from 1 side of the tank
to the other, which at night it will do 15-20 times in the last hour
before the light goes out!) She has protested any time I talk about
moving rock around. So my point of all of the above is that the tank is
really in a great place and I don't want to do any major overhauls.
<Okay> Tank basics: 72 Bow Front, 100lbs LR, 20g refugium with 8"
DSB, 40g sump, 3/4 sand in display, 2x175w 10K MH on for 9 hours a day,
2x96W PC 420nm Actinic on for 12 hours a day. 2 Ocellaris Clown (2"
and 1 3/4"). Foxface Rabbit (4"), Hippo Tang (2 1/4"), Starry Blenny (4
1/2"), 2 cleaner shrimp (3 1/2" each), 2 peppermint shrimp (1 1/2" - new
adds) 2 Mithrax crabs. Oh and 24 Astrea snails, 4 Mexican turbo, 10
Nassarius. So for the last 4 months I have heard a popping from the
tank. I tried trapping, but I kept catching the Mithrax crabs (damn
them). I hear two types of popping. 1 loud popping that occurs
sometimes at full light and definitely under just the PC and dark. The
pops only come in 1s and sometimes in 2s, but I would characterize as
loud. Usually several minutes between pops. The 2nd type of popping
is more of a quiet clicking. Happens just after light goes
out. Happens in multiples, but not rapid fire, usually 15 to 30 second
spacing. So my question is Pistol shrimp, mantis, or
maybe both? <Likely Pistol/s... from the loudness, frequency,
absence of dead crustaceans (the Mithraculus would be gone)> What
exactly should I be looking for? <Small Alpheid/s... they hide,
especially during light hours> I have not seen either of them and I
have spent many the hour with a flashlight scanning the tank.
Nothing has yet been killed. I have a healthy population of amphipods
that could be feeding one or both. If they were small to begin with
would they have gotten much bigger in 6 months? <Likely so... most
only get to less than an inch and a half total length> I have herd
stories of people having mantis shrimp in a reef and it never killing
fish. Nothing has died should I just wait and see? <I would, yes>
Could I have lucked out? I have a healthy population of coral too. My
rock is secured to a frame so I have good circulation in front and back
(at your suggestion). So, the only thought I have is to slowly pull
out rocks 1 by 1 and rotate them into the fuge until I hear the popping
coming from the fuge. My concern is that I will stress the heck out
of the fish pulling a new rock out every night and of course anything
with coral attached will take a potential hit. <You are wise to
consider this "cost" here... the "alternative hypothesis"... and to
choose the null... to do nothing> My final question is w/ respect to
adding fish given this situation. I am only planning on adding a few
more. 1 Flame Angel (of course my coral and clam may hate me), 1
mandarin goby when the time is right, and a couple of open water
swimmers: fairy wrasse or 2, a Chromis or 2, etc... Thanks as
always, you all are the best. Oh and Tom from the Fish Doctors in
Michigan sends his best (I got lucky and now have a great LFS).
<Ahh! Please do mention back to Tom that I say hello as well! Bob
Fenner> |
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