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- Spawning Anemone -
Good morning!
It the crazy chick with the sexy tank. Thought I'd send these
to you for kicks. My rose anemone spawned last night and I
thought you might like to see the pictures.
I had to work on them in paint because the stuff the rose put out was very
hazy and hard to capture with a camera. You'll get the general
idea though.
Enjoy...
M&M
<Neat - thanks for sharing. Cheers, J -- > |
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Clownfish and anemones
Hello, <Howdy!> a few questions could you please answer
I have just got a bubble tip anemone and a pair of maroon clowns one is about 9
cm long and the other is only 2-3 cm long I was wondering will they mate if so
then when?<They probably will, I couldn't tell you when as there are many
factors that effect this from the fish themselves to their environment.>
The bubble tip anemone keeps moving around, is it normal what is wrong, also how
can I stop it from moving?<Do you have enough lighting? If so just
let him be and he will find a place that he likes.>
Should the anemone be on rocks or is it ok for it to be on sand?<They usually
climb up onto your rockwork. Cody>
BTA science fair project
Mr. Fenner,
<Ms. Maddie>
I started a science fair experiment this year with bubble tip anemone's. We
have a 72 Gallon reef set up that has been really stable for over a year. Our
bubble tip anemone split in two about six month ago and then three months ago
one of the anemone's split again.
<Neat>
My project involved the effect of food on the anemone's. I target fed
one of the anemones (Subject A) with Krill every day, the second anemone
(Subject B) I target fed every third day and the third anemone (Subject C) I
target fed every 2 weeks. After 4 weeks the first anemone split. That
was two days ago. Today I came home and realized that one of the
newly split anemones (Subject A-1) was pushed up against my crown leather coral. I
didn't want it to get stung so I went to move it and realized that the anemone
was in the middle of splitting again with one piece of it attaching to my coral
and the other part attaching to the rock. I quickly moved the coral
back into place so the anemone would be more whole while it finishes this process. Have
I hurt the anemone? What about my coral?
<Hopefully both are fine... anemones do split more often due to
"stress" of various sorts... perhaps the proximity of the leather
coral hastened the onset of the process (Schizogyny) here>
Also the other half of the anemone (Subject A-2) has crawled up under a rock and
is really small - sort of like the night before it split the last time. This
has been a really cool experiment and I'm glad it worked but now I'm afraid I
hurt Subject A-1. Also my single maroon clown fish has always taken care of the
three anemone's but I'm afraid he's outnumbered. I guess I will have
to move the anemone's into my Dad's 200 gallon reef tank. How long
should I wait before I make the move to make sure the anemone's are stable?
<I would wait several weeks here. Being genetic clones of the
"mother" colony, these anemones should get along together
semi-indefinitely>
Thanks,
Maddie Ball
P.S. This is for my 5th grade science fair project at St. John's
Episcopal School in Dallas. May I use your response as part of my
report? Thanks.
<You are welcome to cite anything I have written. Bob Fenner>
Unequal BTA split 1/8/04
WWM : Hi, I had a single E. quadricolor Bubble Tip Anemone that split. The
clones are doing fine, but it's been about three months now and only one seems
to have taken its symbiotic algae with it, as evidenced by its brownish color.
The other one is pure white, and has been since the split. What could cause this
and should I worry or do something to help the albino twin? thanks, SLC
<I'm not sure of the cause of a lack of zooxanthellae here (some stress), but
can assure you that it will only survive and regiment if you feed it several
times weekly or better with very fine (minced) meaty ocean meats and foods. Best
of luck, Anthony>
Unequal BTA split II 1/11/04
Thanks Mr. Calfo,
<always welcome my friend>
Are brine shrimp and salmon soaked in Selcon and Zoë, in 1/4" chunks, 3-4X
a week OK?
<Selcon is an excellent food supplement for most marine animals (corals,
fishes, inverts)... Zoë I do not personally care for but a little bit of
vitamins (like Vita-Chem) to go with the HUFA supplement (Selcon) is a good idea
IMO. You portion size and frequency are fine... but you need to offer more kinds
and more nutritious items. Salmon is excellent... but brine shrimp is nearly
useless here (nutritively hollow... really only good for stimulating picky
fishes to feed. A temp food). Add Mysis shrimp, Pacifica plankton, chopped krill
or raw food shrimp, fish roe (grouper eggs from the pet store freezer or Tobago/flying
fish roe from the Asian market (sushi)>
That's what I've upped the schedule to in the last week. Thanks for the advice, SLC
The Enemy of my Anemone is my Enemy
<yes... and the rain in Spain falls gently on the plain. "I think I've
got it... I think I've got it". Anthony :) >
Dyed BTAs? 11/26/03
I bought 3 rose anemones they were deep red we got them in the tank 3 weeks
later they turned bright white with hot pink tips a we think maybe they were
dyed could you email to tell me your thoughts
<I doubt these anemones were dyed... not heard of with BTAs. Seems much more
likely they bleached from stress from poor acclimation. If you feed them well
(necessary) for the next few months, they will likely recover their color and
survive. Anthony>
Dyed rose anemone?
How can I tell if my rose anemone has been dyed or not.
<there is no sure fire way to tell if an anemone has been dyed except for time. The
anemone in a couple of months if dyed will turn back to its original color most
of the time brown) or will die.>
Bought from a guy on e-bay who sells lots of splits and had excellent feedback.
My rose is pretty good color but has some green color at the base of his tentacles
<normal on most>
and red seems to be darker at top.
<you will get many color morphs in rose anemones. I have one that is bright
red all over and one that is hot pink.>
Color seems to be in little dots when you look up close. The foot is pink. Tips
look fluorescent orange. From what I am told dying different colors is a common
scam throughout the industry.
<It is but I have never heard or dying Rose anemones before.>
If it is dyed how long before you think all the dye will have worn off?
<couple months>
I have hesitated giving this guy any feedback until I know for sure whether it
has been dyed or not. If it has I want to be sure to alert others to his scam.
$56 for a 3.5" Rose and $38 shipping. $56 seems too good to be true for a
true rose don't you think?
<YES>
The pictures he puts on the web are not as dark red as the actual. You can see
one of his auctions here. Check out his feedback. If it is a scam he is good. The
dye lasts long enough for customers to post positive feedback?
<If the guy has good feed back, I would say they are real. Only time will tell. MikeH>
Thanks,
Rob
Bubble anemone What's wrong?
Hiya Bob & Crew. I recently purchased a Bubbletip anemone for
my 26G
tank. My tank is fully cycled w/ NO3 5-10ppm. Also includes 35lbs cured LR,
40lbs live aragonite reef fine reef sand, SeaClone 100 and an Emperor280 filter w/
lighting 130W(10K&Actinic) Aqualight Coralife. Tank currently
have only the BTA (about 3-4 inch), a coral banded shrimp, and a scooter blenny. I
had my BTA for 1 week, all was fine and seems to be expanding and then yesterday
it produced some slime underneath its body so I moved him to another corner. Now
it shrank to about 1-2 inches. What's going on??
<do not move him around he will move on his own. he is expelling the water
in him (which is normal) anemones can do this on a reg basis. He was
fine during the day and night the first week. Feed him 2x a week w/
Micro-Vite and sometimes frozen Brine Shrimp.
<you are feeding the wrong kind of food try some cocktail shrimp (make sure
is not cooked) break it up into pieces, the anemone can ingest. I have a rose
anemone that is bigger than a football and I feed him 2 whole cocktail shrimp a
week> Also my coral band shrimp seems to be hiding 24/7. Will
this guy ever come out to eat??
<he is eating the food that the fish miss that makes it's way to the back
.They are scavengers> How do I get him to come out?
< they are nocturnal so it will be difficult>
Is my lighting too bright?
<NO> My scooter blenny is not doing his job on the algae.
<Scooter blennies do not feed on algae they are more like a mandarin. try a
lawnmower blenny he will take care of all of it> This stinks! All I wanted was
a tank w/ 2clowns and an anemone. Any advice???
<hang in there you were given some misdirection hope this helps Mike H.>
-BTA question- Kevin's Answer
I sent the following email a few days ago but have received no
reply. I am resending it in case it fell through the cracks. Thanks,
Bryan <I apologize for the delay, but sometimes time doesn't allow for all
emails to get prompt replies.>
Hi, I'm having two problems that I hope you can help with. First, I
have a bubble tip anemone (had for a couple of months) that had been doing well
until about two weeks ago. It started spending a lot of time shrunk
up. For the last several days it has opened but for all practical purposes its
tentacles have shriveled up to the point of non-existence. I had been feeding it
small chunks (1/4 inch) of shrimp a couple of times a week. However, the last
time I saw it looking good a larger chunk of food (1/2 inch or so) had
inadvertently blown into it. It has never regained its glory since.
<I can see this being bad if it was still partly frozen.> What do the
shriveled or lack of tentacles mean? Starving?
Full? <Neither, it could be getting ready to divide, especially on that
feeding schedule!> I've tried feeding but of course without full tentacles it
isn't holding food. Its mouth has gaped a few times and a stringy clear
intestinal sort of slime came out. <I would leave it alone, no poking,
prodding, etc.> Generally, however, it's mouth is tight. Water
quality is good (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate all 0. DKH is around 10,
calcium 300, ph 8.1) Lighting is from 260 watts of power compacts. <It may be
getting ready to divide, but either way the best thing to do is to not bother it
(this includes force feeding, don't worry about food until it is open per
usual).>
On the completely other side of the tank (55 gallons long) I have a star polyp
that's mat is sprouting low-lying hair algae and the mat is brown from a thin
layer of algae. The polyps were not opening as fully as usual. One of
the powerheads was moved awhile back and I know that this algae is forming due
to lack of water flow. I have corrected that problem but what can I
do to get this algae off without permanently damaging the coral? <You can
gently scrub it off with a soft bristled toothbrush> I have been picking at
the hair algae with my fingers but it's hard to get hold of. The
brown algae seems to come off by rubbing my finger lightly along the mat but
there are too many nooks and crannies for this to be effective. Any ideas for
what I can use? <If you cant remove it from the tank, try a toothbrush taped
to the end of a siphon. You can scrub and suck away the algae in one step.>
The polyps haven't come out for a few days because of my messing with it.
<Good luck! -Kevin>
Thanks for your help! Bryan
Re: BTA shrinking
Thanks Mike for the reply,
But it's been 3 days that my BTA shrank. Now I can't see him. He looks like a
chunk of slime inside a hole of my live rock. Is he dead?
< I would say so>
Should I get what's left of my BTA??
<don't worry about it next time try I bigger one at least as big as an orange
and start feeding right away thanks Mike H>
I checked my water parameter again and all is Fine. pH 8.2, NH3=0,NO2=0,
NO3=about 10. Ca= 420-430 Phosphate=0
Thanks-Donnie
Ring around the BTA? 10/29/03
Anthony : Since your response my sinking anemone split in two and both fled to
the back of the tank behind live rock, where there is little light. The female
clown followed them and wallows back and forth between them.
<not uncommon (move to dim light)>
So ... I have to decide what to do with these unpredictable set of events,
taking into account your advice. One question: don't BTAs situate themselves
between hard corals (like staghorns) in the wild reef?
<good heavens no... it's almost unheard of with any anemone. Even those that
hail from rocky habitats (in contrast to the more common sandy/muddy flats, etc)
still avoid other cnidarians and instead seek the crevices of rocks>
I understand your logic about separating these different types of critters ....
but you know, reefers have to try everything once.
<it's more than logic, my friend... it is what is, it is... unnatural to mix
these creatures in such close confines. And it is an inappropriate use of a
living resource. As conscientious aquarists... we are obliged to not make
horrifying excuses like "reefers have to try everything once".
Yikes... you do recall that the things you are "trying" are living. At
least for now <G>.>
Maybe I could build a coral-corral around these BTAs to prevent them from
burrowing down into the sand or wandering around and thrashing on other
cnidarians.
<ahhh...no>
Thanks, SLC
<good luck. Anthony>
Anemone At "Low Tide"?
Hello WWM crew!
<Hi there! Scott F. at your service!>
I've been searching the FAQs for information about bubble-tip anemones but I
couldn't find anything particularly related to my situation.
<Well, let's give it a shot...>
One of my BTAs has stationed itself at the very top of the waterline for about
the past 2 weeks. I want to do a water change, but in order to do this, the
anemone will be out of the water for a period of about 20 minutes or so. Can it
survive this? If not, would my next best option be to try to gently remove his
foot from the glass? (The anemone's foot is stuck firmly to the glass of the
tank.) How would I go about doing that? I've seen some posts about coaxing the
anemone to move by half-shading.
<Well, the anemone has "chosen" this spot because it is comfortable
there. I'd avoid moving the animal for fear of injuring it. I believe that the
anemone will be fine if exposed to the air for a limited period of time. If it
makes you feel better, you could periodically splash water on it during the
water change process.>
The anemone itself is not doing as well as the other anemones in the tank: the
tentacles are retracted and closed in and the color has faded slightly. I'm not
sure why this one is not doing well as the others. They all were formed after a
recently 3-way split of my original BTA. I don't want to give up on the sickly
one, but I'd like to do a water change really soon!
<I agree with your sentiments. Of course, the need to change water cannot be
ignored...I'd go for the water change, if for no other reason than the fact that
it will serve the "greater good" for this tank's population. In the
end, changing the water may end up "coaxing" the animal out of
whatever seems to be negatively affecting it.. Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Any advice is greatly appreciated! ----Stella
Bubble Tip Anemone - What's Happening?
>Hello friends,
>>Hello. Apologies for the very late reply.
>My bubble tip anemone is upside down and its center is open. It also has
moved toward the back of the tank. Could it possibly be splitting? What signs
should I be looking for and how long will the splitting take to
complete?
>>Unfortunately, I've never seen a split, so I cannot tell you exactly
what's happening. There are those with much experience with this on http://www.reefs.org
(on the forums). If you can take a picture and post it there I'm
positive you'll find someone (Minh Nguyen comes immediately to mind) who knows
exactly what to look for. However, here's my first take: to the best
of my knowledge, when an anemone splits, they do not disengage from the
substrate and flip themselves. In my experience this usually means
the animal is "unhappy" with its situation. In other words
it's often an indicator of trouble. Again, my apologies for the late
reply. Marina
Bubble Tips Dying
>I have had a successful fish & reef (small reef - some mushrooms and
one leather) tank for over 5 years (75 gallon). I lost power due to Isabel
for two days about a month ago. I have lost power before - sometimes even
longer with no ill effects. I have battery powered air stones and I
agitate the water regularly and add hydrogen peroxide as part of my disaster
recovery plan. My Bubble tip Anemones are dying. I have six
altogether (started at two) that are from the same original stock. They
have divided happily over the years.
>>So, as I understand you, you've had these anemones (at least the
original two) for at least five years, yes?
>Only *two* things changed. First I did about a 25 gallon water change
after power returned due to the hurricane. Then I added some gravel to the
bottom of my tank. I do this every year or so to replace the siphoned
gravel. Suddenly ALL of my bubbles stopped opening fully! Then
one of them moved to the underside of one rock. The tentacles remained as
stubs or nubs up to this time on all of them! Now one is starting to lose
color. Could my tank have been polluted by some unknown substance (metal)
in the rock?
>>This is a possibility, to be sure, assuming your water source, etc. are
all EXACTLY as usual.
>Or could the stress of the Hurricane caused this? Again, I have lost
power for longer periods with the same bubbles and had no ill
effects.
>>The hurricane itself? I seriously doubt it, these creatures
have to have evolved exposed to the problems associated with hurricanes and
typhoons, wouldn't you think?
>I have tested the water many times & so has my local reef expert
retailer. Everything looks good & is within level.
>>We do prefer to get exact readings on everything tested.
>Sorry - that this is so long. Should I remove them from the
tank?
>>If they appear to be disintegrating, then yes, they really must be
removed.
>My reef pet retailer said he can store them for me. I am worried that
the stress of the move will kill them but if I do nothing - I will lose them as
well. Thanks. Diane
>>I would worry about that if they're very firmly attached, otherwise, the
move itself shouldn't be a terrible problem. However, if it were me,
I would set up a hospital tank, rather than risk an entirely different
system. Marina
BTA infected, splitting or what?
>I have had this BTA for about 12 days now. Got
him from LiveAquaria.com. It was supposed to be medium sized
(3"-5"), but this thing is enormous
(10"-12). About 3 days ago it started to develop
"sores", and now his mouth is kind of funny. I've
attached some photos from day 2 of their appearance.
>>Yes, I've seen them. These are NOT sores, it looks to
me that the animal is dying quickly. What I see is the outer
membrane breaking open. It will need to be removed ASAP.
>For the most part they are confined to the area around the
mouth although there are 1or 2 spots away from the mouth as
well. You can just see one of these in IMG_0051 (renamed "DyingBTA"). The
"sores" look worse today and are now on both sides of the mouth.
>>Indeed, once an anemone begins to go, it goes FAST.
>All of the water parameters in my tank are good (no ammonia, nitrite,
or nitrate, sg 1.024, pH ~8.2, KH 10). Please let me know what
you think. Thanks! -matt
>>Sorry I haven't got better news for you, Matt. If it
were me, I would contact the vendor and let them know what's
happened. In the meantime, if the thing is still around, move
it to its own tank immediately. Best of luck. Marina |
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BTA infected, splitting or what? II
>Marina,
The anemone died on Saturday.
>>Argh! Sorry to hear that, though it really looked like it was
on its way out. I hope you've called the vendor, as I don't think it
should have gone that fast if shipped properly.
>Just wanted to say thanks for the reply and for the heads-up on the ensuing
disaster.
>>You're welcome.
>Took the poor thing and placed it in my QT tank. By then (Friday
the 24th) most of its outer membrane had broken down and there was a large hole
right through the middle of it.
>>Uck.. good thing you put it in the q/t, and good thing you HAVE a q/t!
>Luckily it was still rather intact. Things only got worse from
there as I'm sure you are familiar with.
>>All too.
>What a mess. Sure am glad it was in my QT. Thanks
again. -matt
>>Oh yes, I'm glad it didn't die in your display, that's a hell of a mess
when that happens. I think it came in rough condition in the first
place, so I hope they make good on it for you. Marina
Sinking Anemone 10/21/03
WWM Commensal Comrade :
<Hola>
I have recently introduced a pair of young Tomato Clowns (A. frenatus) into a
100 gal reef with an E. quadricolor anemone (BTA) that has been comfortably
situated for about six weeks in the same spot,
<ughh... how I do dread to hear of anemones with corals. So often a recipe
for disaster in the long run (years)>
and doing well (as in not imitating a melting ice cream cone.)
<by a measure of mere weeks... do consider at least remitting the anemone to
a refugium sans corals and with a protected overflow/pump intakes, etc>
I have two questions submitted for your approval:
a.) The BTA is about the size of ... well, an ice cream cone, and the largest
clown ( I assume becoming a female, much darker and larger than the other paired
clown) immediately took to the anemone, ditching its partner( I had been
watching them pair together for six weeks in my LFS.)
<common and temporary... she will drive the mate into the nest once the nest
is established>
The she-to-be takes up the entire nesting area of the BTA, leaving no room for
the smaller clown, but that seems to suit her just fine. I've witnessed this
behavior before in a different species, H. Sapiens, in the female preferring to
take over the entire home and kick the male out of her life. Is this happening
simply because the BTA is too small to host both of them, or will
she not let the other clown co-habitate?
<likely to resume in time>
b.) This greedy clown seems to constantly wiggle in the BTA and this action
blows a lot of the sand under the BTA out of the way (this BTA, like most E.
quadricolors, is situated horizontally in a live rock crevice.) As this happens,
the BTA moves itself downwards until it touches the sand again. The clown blows
more sand out of the way, and the BTA sinks further down. Within 24 hours, they
have sunk about 2 inches in my 5" DSB.
<much has been writ about the subject at large... do peruse our archives of
articles and FAQs especially. The undersized anemone and presence of a clownfish
at all are potential sore spots here (some studies show that more than half of
all anemones that can host clowns in fact don't (!) in the wild)>
Will this continue until BTA & clown are touching the tank bottom, in the
middle of an apparent DSB bomb crater? I'm not so much worried about losing the
DSB benefits in that small area, but having the crater collapse in on the BTA
and cause grief of some sort. Any advice?
<just some of the many problems with keeping anemones in mixed community
tanks... my pref/recommendation is to keep this and all anemones in dedicated
tanks>
Thanks ahead of time, SLC
<best regards, Anthony>
Rose Anemone (Entacmaea quadricolor) 10/18/03
Here are 2 pics before and after. The pics are only 3 days apart. Rose
just introduced in the tank. Turning brown quick, but it still seems to be
full. 125w MH. 55g tank likes the back of tank where there is less light.
Also clown fish feeds it but seems to bug it more than anything. Any help
would be great thanks. Irv
<the pigment/color on this specimen looks quite good! Dense and rich.
I'd suggest some more patience/no worries. BTAs are quite hardy and
resilient. Many will even take on a sickly appearance just prior to
splitting (reproducing). Lets take some more time. Anthony> |
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-White (eek!) Bubble Tipped Anemone-
I have bought a white bubble tipped anemone <Ooo, just the name makes me
shudder!> (about 2 weeks) and he does not look so hot. His
tentacles are withered and he shrinks up a ton when the lights are
on. The only time he comes out is at night, but even then his
tentacles are still sad looking. <I would wager that this anemone is
bleached.> I was told to feed him shrimp pellets and/or frozen brine shrimp
along with a phytoplankton supplement. <This anemone should be fed frozen
(completely defrosted!) meaty seafoods like shrimp, clam, krill etc. I'd skip
the pellets, don't bother with brine because it is very small and of only a very
low nutritional value, and continue to use phyto, but note that the anemone does
not consume it directly.> He doesn't look good. Can I have too
much light? I only have 4- 36W in a 55 gallon. <Normally, this
wouldn't be a lot of light for a BTA. Since this guy is probably bleached, it is
a little more than it can handle at the moment. Please, never buy an anemone
that is clear or white in color as it is "sick". White or clear
anemones have lost most/all of their symbiotic zooxanthellae whose
photosynthetic activity inside the anemones tissue gives its host a valuable and
important energy source. All may not be lost though, you should be able to
sustain the anemone with food until it, hopefully, regains its zooxanthellae. I
would feed it 3 times a week with one or all of the aforementioned foods. Check
out http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
and part 2 of the same article.> I have no other fish, just a few
crabs and snails. Please help me. <Could you get a picture of it?
From your description it sounds bleached, but it's hard to say without a picture
or a very detailed description of the color. Good luck! -Kevin> Thank you,
Brooke
Sick Anemone? BTA 10/17/03
Hi, I have a very small (3in across at most) bubble tip
anemone. I've had it for about 1 month now (tank has been established
for about 6 months).
<FWIW... its kind of a young tank to have purchased an anemone for. Little
natural plankton available no doubt unless you also have a large refugium
inline. I also hope you have resisted a mix with other stinging anemones or
corals. It will be your best bet for success with keeping any motile anemone.
Read more in the WWM archives about mixing cnidarians>
Basically, when I first got it, it seemed fine and healthy and (I think) colored
up a bit. I originally fed it every day with some formula one, about
an eight of a cube (fighting the cleaner shrimp off was quite the
chore!). And he seemed to be doing fine.
<agreed... a good habit here>
Pictures of it, more or less chronologically are found here
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~skotzaba/anemone.htm I
did some more reading, and as always, I came across a lot of opinions on how
often anemones should be fed.
<does vary by species (and tank-- depending on incidental feeding
opportunities with heavy fish populations)>
The general consensus was that you should feed them, at
most, twice a week--any more might harm them.
<I disagree... I would suggest 3-5 times weekly for most at minimum. The
"harm" in feeding anemones is with chunks of food that are too
large... not fine matter "too often">
Well, I did that, which seems to be when the decline
started. It would spend a great deal of its time contorted and
releasing mucus. It did this for a while and then its mouth began to
gape and it would spend a while looking as if he would puke
out his internals (white squiggly intestinal things, which I think are the
mesenterial filaments).
<correct... and commonly occurs with feeding large chunks of food. Yikes>
I thought the outlook was grim, but I didn't have the heart to toss him out
yet. He spend a while continuing on that course,
until one day he decided to move under a rock, then within a day he
moved back out and attached his foot at the base of the rock, near
the bottom of the tank; so he is now horizontally oriented to the
substrate. He still looked horrid. I took a mucus sample
and looked at it under a microscope. Obviously I'm no scientist, so
what I saw didn't reveal much. A lot of dark brown, various thin
worms jerking about and one of what looked like those small calcareous tube
worms one gets all over the glass. I posted on a few boards asking
for help. Basically, one individual, who seemed to know what he was
talking about, said that the anemone is exhibiting signs of malnutrition and
that an anemone should be fed as often as it will eat. So I embarked
on the task of feeding it. It, of course, didn't really respond to
food like the majano anemones in the sump do (reaching for an grabbing, although
his tentacles are so stubby, he never really reached in the first
place). I have to gently place the piece near its
mouth. In its glory days it would then close up and eat
it. Now it takes about 20 minutes before it coordinates itself enough
to eat. Its much like spoon-feeding a crippled
patient. Anyhow, the good news is that he started looking better, at
least comparatively, so I've continued daily feedings and I'm hoping he might
improve. Is there any advice you can offer, based on what I've told
you?
<I believe you are truly o the right track... feeding several times weekly if
not daily will be optimal. Nothing larger than fine plankton/mysids (1/4"
or smaller)>
Tank is a 50 gallon with a 20gal sump. pH: 8.3 Am:0 Ni:0 Na:2ppm
Salin: 1.024 Alk:3 Ca:400 Regardless, thank you for taking the time to read my
long story.
<best of luck! Anthony>
Anemone Antics
Hey guys/gals!
<Scott F. your guy today!>
I just had a quick question as I can't find any
information on my own. I recently received a BTA with
a clown fish at my local fish store. I acclimated
them both appropriately and they both seem very happy.
<Excellent!>
However I've noticed something odd and am not sure if
this is normal or a warning sign for something
serious. It seems that everyday for about an hour,
the BTA shrinks up to about nothing. I have wondered
if it was something I had done to the tank, etc. but
this evening it shrank on its own. The only thing
that seems similar on the last 3 days is that it
shrinks after about 10 hours of lighting. Color wise
it is brown/green and when it is inflated it is
gorgeous. Should I be worried or is this normal
behavior?
<In my personal experience, anemones will often shrink and open during the
course of a day without being indicative of some greater problem. On the other
hand, if you are witnessing discharge of mucus, or other materials, you may need
to do some investigating here.>
Some specs on the tank. it's a 20gal with 130W of
light (65W 10K daylong/65W actinic). Location wise,
the anemone is about 1/2 way to the to the top of the
tank. It has moved lower in the last few days.
<Anemones will move about when they are unhappy with their current location,
only to settle in a spot that is more to their liking..>
My salinity is 1.023, the temp is ~80 degrees,
nitrite/ammonia is 0 and my nitrates are about 10. pH
is 8.2 Livestock consists of a Firefish and a tomato
clown. Thanks for all your help!
<Other than the low level of measurable nitrate in your system (which can be
brought under control by using tried-and-true techniques outlined on the WWM
site), I don't see anything that really strikes me as bad. I'd keep observing
and feeding this seemingly healthy animal, and only intervene if the anemone's
behavior or condition take a turn for the worse (i.e.; remaining closed for
extended periods during the day, excessive discharge, etc.). Good luck! Regards,
Scott F.>
Bubble-tip Anemone
Greetings crew,
I've seen a lot of great color morphs of Entacmaea quadricolor lately and am
considering setting up a dedicated system featuring them.<ok>
I have an unoccupied 55 that will have LR and DSB, 20 gal sump with
little Tunze Comline skimmer. 2 150watt HQI pendants w/ XM 20,000K bulbs. Sump
return will be about 600 GPH. Would like to place 5 different clones of
Bubble-tips. I already have 2 large (4-5"d) greens. Have a source for
smaller (2"+) rose and teals. Will they all just get along? or am I in for
physical or chemical rumbles? Would also like to put a CB pair of Premnas and
some porcelain crabs (Neopetrolisthes sp). I know these will fight for anemones
but what if I have more anemones that potential occupants? <this still
presents a problem... what happens if they want the same anemone? I would only
go with one species>
Okay, that's all for now. Please add comments if I am overlooking something.
Again, thank you for your help
<This link should answer all of your questions http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm>
Regards,
Bryan
Feeding BTA 9/22/03
Reviewing your website, I haven't yet run across the answer to the
following: In feeding a BTA, say with a turkey baster and Mysis
shrimp, where does one squirt this food? Do you have to aim for the
"mouth" or is anywhere towards the tentacles
fine? (Probably a dumb question.)
<not a dumb question at all, mate... a very important distinction. You need
to know that feeding with a baster is a bit tricky, and we must be careful not
to blast or squirt the animal for fear of inducing a fright response (ceasing
feeding). The mouth is not to be fed, but rather the tentacles. Stimulate
receptiveness by putting a very small amount of food or thawed pack juice
(literally just a quarter or half teaspoon) into the aquarium about 15-30
minutes prior to feeding. Also, be sure to thaw frozen food in the fridge or
cold water to retain nutritive quality... but strain and discard this liquid
just prior to feeding (scrubbing excess nutrients from pack juice to avoid
feeding a nuisance algae bloom in the aquarium). Once thawed, ameliorate the
mysids/meats in a slurry of aquarium water and gently squirt this in a stream
towards the anemones tentacles>
Oh, I just introduced my BTA about a day or two ago. He has crawled
under a rock where this is little rock and has yet to come back
out. He balled up big time but has expanded back out a fair
amount. Is this most likely the BTA adjusting to the new
environment/light, and so on?
<not uncommon at all... adjustment to the tank/light likely. Best regards,
Anthony>
-Macrodactyla doreensis and Entacmaea quadricolor-
Macrodactyla doreensis and Entacmaea quadricolor have interested me for a
long time.. I have finally decided to give it a try.. the tank has cycled.. its
a 60 gallon tank.. the dimensions are (LxWxH) 48"x15"x14.5"..
lighting is what came with the system about 120 watts.. 2 4' Coralife 40w 50/50
and 1 4' 40w marine Glo.. I also have 30 lbs of live rock in the tank.. my
question is what is this amount of light enough to keep these particular
anemone's?? <I would suggest at least 4x55w PC's as a minimum for either, and
of the two E. quad. is a much hardier specimen (they can also easily be acquired
tank raised.>and if not, are there any other anemone's that would work in this
amount of light??? <Not any Pacific anemone I can think of> and if not..
are
there any corals that I could keep with this amount of light?? <'Shrooms and
polyps may do alright, but I'd strongly suggest upgrading to my earlier
suggestion. Good luck! -Kevin> thank u very much for answering.. Jiwan
-New BTA waiting' for some pals-
Hello WWM anemone-guru: <Recently (as in 10 seconds ago) proclaimed
anemone guru, Kevin, here today>
I have a small (4" diameter) BTA that is doing very well after its rescue
(purchase) from the LFS. I've heard that one should wait a while before
introducing clowns (I'm thinking Perculas) to give the BTA time to firmly anchor
itself, get adjusted, and most importantly, get somewhat bigger than 4".
<A good idea> The advice I got says that clowns can actually smother a BTA
to death if the BTA is too small when the clowns start to 'nest' in it. <They
can really stress it out if it's not well adjusted to tank conditions. Clowns
can dish some pretty tough love!> Do you have any advice on this matter, as
far as time-in-tank or minimum size the BTA should reach before introducing the
clowns? <Since you've got nothing but time, I would wait till it grows to
5-6" in diameter. This way it will have been well established and happy
provided you have the appropriate system> Also, I feed the BTA small bits of
Sweetwater zooplankton and shrimp every other day, and it seems to gobble this
stuff up. Any change to my manual feeding regimen? <Frequent small feedings
are fine. The more you feed BTA's, the faster they grow and ultimately divide.
That said, a once or twice weekly feeding is enough.> I really feed the fish
in the tank as little as possible, so there's not a lot of detritus floating
around for the BTA to snag. <They're not interested in detritus, but keep
them fish fat and healthy too! Good luck - Kevin>
Great! Thanks a bunch,
SLC
Problem Solving!
Dear Scott,
<Hello again!>
Thanks for responding. I promise this will be shorter than last message!
<Hey- that's why I signed on for this gig! LOL>
On the BTA-He has stayed in the same locale and will hopefully move on
"foot" from now on. Since he has had that encounter with the strainer,
I am concerned about how pale he is (the green is still good and there is a hint
of brown).
<As long as it appears to be recovering, that's a good thing!>
Please talk to me about feeding. I have heard 1/week, 2/week/, 5/week, etc. and
about completely different foods. I am confused.
<Well, there are tons of different thoughts on this subject. My research
seems to indicate that these animals feed daily in the wild, so I can't imagine
it being detrimental (except if inadequate nutrient export mechanisms exist in
your tank) to feed it daily, or every other day...I'd try a variety of frozen
fish foods, and carefully observe which ones the animal "recognizes"
as food sources. An anemone will usually "reject" what it does not
recognize as a food, so go with what works!>
Also, should the feeding be different after the strainer incident?
<I would continue a routine feeding regimen. Just observe the animal a bit
more closely>
A small amount of Brine Shrimp Plus has drifted to him two days in a row and he
has pulled it in. I know it doesn't mean he is eating it, but he acts
hungry...please advise.
<If it appears to be consuming this food, keep using it!>
What is the best we can do for him with VHO lighting? We have painted the
interior of the cover a glossy white to help reflect the light.
<That's fine. If the animal appears to be reacting negatively to the
lighting, you may have to augment as required...Again, observation is the
key..>
The six-foot (white) tubes only say - Aquasun/7 VHO-1. I have no clue what
wattage...
<Hmm...something the "expert" might be able to tell you. You need
to know, especially when it's time to replace them...By the way- how old are the
bulbs? Are they ready to be replaced?>
I have removed nine molly millers, but not the tomato clown with ich. She was
afraid of the net, so I am feeding her from it (that's how I got so many MM -
smiling). I may be able to get her out tonight without much fuss (she has been
half-way in the net).
<Keep trying. It's important to get everyone out for the treatment>
My question is, how do I set up a QT? I have a 10 gal tank, no cover, no lights,
no heater and no pump, no nothing. I do have a bubbler and a long narrow heating
pad.
<Well, you almost have everything that you need. Here is an article by yours
truly about setting up a QT...Hopefully, it will answer some of your questions,
and the same idea works for a "hospital" tank: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/QuarMarFishes.htm >
Am I nuts to think it wouldn't be wise just to dip and then put her back in with
the others? My husband's aquarium pal gave four options: flush her (he had to be
kidding), do a dip and put her back, put her in a dif. aquarium, or let the ich
run its course. Let the ich run its course, I'm not nuts. He's nuts!
<Well, I'm inclined to agree! "Running its course" means that the
life cycle of the causative parasites will go on and on- constantly re-attaching
to fishes after dropping off...Until the fish dies. You need to address the life
cycle of the parasite - knock it off on the fish with medication, and let the
display tank run fallow, without fishes, for a bout a month - this will deprive
them of hosts...Lots more bout this on the WWM site..>
What about the other fish? My husband is on duty again (Hospital chaplain) and I
just feel the other shoe is about to drop. I have ordered a total of four books,
but need to correct these current problems before I get them. Help, I am
drowning in a sea of misinformation! Crystal
<Well, hang in there, Crystal! I'd start with a search under "parasitic
diseases" on the WWM site, and you'll find plenty of GOOD information!>
P.S. We have an RO/ DI water purifying system (not just RO) whatever that means.
<"DI" means "deionization"- another phase of the water
purification process...A good thing! Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Perculas and BTA
Are they compatible with BTA?
<Yep>
I have a 90 gal with 126 lbs Kaelini and deep Tonga rock with a 4"
aragonite sand bed. I have about 15x water circulation. Lighting is 2 175w
10000k MH and 2 125w actinics. I am looking for an "easy" anemone that
does not cause an allergic reaction. Am I heading in the right direction?
<These are some of the more hardy anemone and should be fine in your
system. I think all will cause a “sting” some, more so than
others. I have found these guys to be weaker compared to a carpet or
LT though. Cody>
-E. Quad. issues-
Hey guys,
I just want to run this by you guys and see what you think. I have a Bubble tip
anemone for about a month now it has been acting weird. It started acting weird
around the same time I switched salt. I switched from Kent to Instant Ocean.
Also around that same time I added a small Frogspawn frag. Would switching salt
cause my bubble tip to act like this. Before the switch it would open up really
big and would display the bubble tips. After the switch does not open as big and
none of the tentacles have the bubble tip. Would adding the Frogspawn cause what
you call "chemical warfare"? <Doubtful> The tank is a 25 gallon
and about 10 months old. I have had no problems with it. <Is it under at
least a pair of 55-65w PC's?> Water quality stay high with weekly 5 gallon RO
water changes. Let me know what you think would be causing this. I have not
changed anything else, I still feed on that same schedule, same food, nothing
else has been changed.
<Unfortunately, it seems that no one can figure out why these critters will
develop (or lose for that matter) the bubble shaped tips. Just yesterday my BTA
displayed bubble tips, they're gone now. It could have been the salt change
since it likely effected several chemical levels in the tank. This isn't
necessarily anything to worry about, providing it's well lit. Good luck!
-Kevin>
Thanks, Chris Hepburn
- BTA Bubble Tips, Follow up -
Kevin,
I went ahead and switched back to the Kent salt. Everything in the tank seems a
lot happier. Also the bubbles have started to come back on the BTA.
<Huh, go figure>
I did the water change with the new salt on Thursday. By the next morning I
could see the difference. The BTA has opened up to its normal size, a lot bigger
than before the switch. My tank did not like the switch to Instant Ocean
salt. My Xenia has not showed any different signs. What cause Xenias
to shrink?
<They are sensitive to things like pH, although it usually only affects their
pulsing speed. I really don't know...>
It is still pulsing and water quality is excellent. Ever since the switch it has
shrunk in size. I just hope with the switch back it will recover to its old
self.
<It should be fine, there's really only two states of xenia: dead or taking
over the tank.>
I just wanted to let you know how everything is working out with the switch
back! Thanks, Chris Hepburn
<Excellent, thanks for the follow-up! That's very interesting about the salt
dependant bubble tips... -Kevin>
BTA Help 8/4/03
Hello,
I have read most that I could find on your site about the Bubble
Tips. Thanks for such an informative site. I still have a
questions though, I have a 75 gallon tank with about 55 lbs of live
rock, I used all live sand, and the inhabitants include: 4 blue green
Chromis, 1 orchid Dottyback, 1 Banggai cardinalfish, 1 flame
angelfish, 1 maroon Anemonefish, 1 brown barred goby, 1 yellow tang,
4 turbo snails, 4 red legged hermits, 3 blue legged hermits, and the bubble tip
anemone. I do a five gallon water change a week, religiously.
<excellent to see weekly water changes... but the portion is way too small.
Larger would be much better for long-term success IMO. 10 gallons minimum
(10-20% weekly)>
The PH is 8.0,
<Yikes! If this is a daytime reading... its getting much lower at night.
Rather dangerous at any rate. Do raise this to a night/day range of 8.3-8.6>
nitrite 0, nitrate 0, ammonia 0.
<you will need to let a few ppm of nitrate linger for symbiotic cnidarians
like coral and anemones for their zooxanthellae>
My anemone was fine for the first month or so but recently deflated and crawled
into a crevice.
<it may be wanting to split/reproduce. They do this and look dreadful for
some days/weeks before splitting>
The maroon was having a difficult time getting into him so I moved him out
(basically just flipped over the rock he was attached to ) and now he is doing
something I haven't been able to find in any of my research. He looks
like he is turning himself inside out. He is totally deflated on one
side and only very slightly inflated on the other.
<still perhaps fission... although it may also be morbidity>
He has what looks like small white squiggles in long strings hanging out
of his mouth area.
<mesenterial filaments... defensive>
I'm afraid to feed him while he is like this.
<agreed>
He has been like this for most of a day now. Any help would be
appreciated. thanks, Eric Hummel
<tough to say with certainty. No worries about feeding for a while. Focus on
water quality and observation... do share a pic if you can. Kind regards,
Anthony>
BTA split, now is one stuck? 8/1/03
Hi there,
<howdy, partner>
My BTA recently split into three (split into 2 overnight then over the course of
a week, one of them split again). It was about 4-5" wide when fully open
before the split and now the anemones are about 1-2" wide.
<outstanding... please do take and share pics of it>
My problem now is I think one of the anemones is stuck inside my decorative
coral rock. I'm not sure exactly what it's called, but the coral rock is kinda
shell-like and hollow and has large holes. The anemone has its foot completely
inside one of the holes and hasn't moved since the split.
<no worries... give it time... and feed it duly in the meantime. Have
patience>
Overall, the anemone seems to be doing well, and I know that a happy anemone
stays put. Can an anemone ever get stuck in a hole like this, not be able to get
out, and be in distress?
<no>
It always displays bubbles (as opposed to the other two which never do) and has
been eating fairly well. I'm just a little concerned b/c the hole opening is not
that big and could be constricting if the anemone grows much more. Any advice?
<no worries my friend... and it can be coaxed out with manipulation of light
(half shading) if necessary>
Thanks! ---Stella
<best regards, Anthony>
- Bubble tip anemones! -
Hello and good morning :) <Good evening! Kevin here.>
I recently acquired a bubble anemone from a friend who's lights went out and he
wasn't able to replace with adequate lighting. There are two anemones
on the same piece of rock. They've shrunk down to about 1"
diameter and are mostly a yellow-ish brown color. My water tests
alright, what can I do to best rehab these little guys?
<They'll need time to adapt to the new lighting and water conditions. As long
as they were properly handled during transport and acclimated well, they should
do just fine provided you have the appropriate system for them. Check it out: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm
-Kevin>
Thanks,
Bill
- Bubble Tip Goin' Haywire -
Hello Gang... Well I am afraid that this email is like my visits to the
doctor...very few and far between... Which is usually a good thing...
<That should mean everything is going well!>
Well I have had my tank operating for almost three years now. 120
Salt water Reef.
Water Parameters:
Ammonia. 0
Calcium 360
Phosphate: 0
Nitrates: 0
Nitrites: 0
<Carbonate hardness?!? As far as I'm concerned, calcium tests are useless
without a KH test.>
8 Power compacts 4 Actinic, 4 10,000 Kelvin
4² sand bed.
Aqua C Protein Skimmer.
80 Lbs Live Rock.
Eheim Canister Pro
Inhabitants:
1 Scopas Tang
2 Tomato Clowns.
1 Firefish
1 Banggai Cardinal
3 Blue Chromis
1 Pajama Cardinal
1 Brittle Star
3 Zebra Hermits
1 Porcelain Crab
1 Cleaner shrimp... The other recently died...what is the life expectancy here?
<Several years, who knows what happened to it so long as your water
parameters were in check.>
1 Cabbage Coral
1 Bubble Coral
Some Ricordea
Some Star Polyps.
1 Leather Coral
My Christmas Tree worms that have been multiplying for the past three years :)
And finally 1 Bubble tip anemone that is 2.5 years old....it started out the
size of a golf ball and is now 9² across.
<Sooooo, getting ready for a divide, no doubt.>
So it is the Bubble that I am concerned about...since I put him in the tank he
has favored a specific spot and has seemed to be happy. Over the last
couple of days I have watched him moving about on the rock and then when I came
home this evening he is clinging to the glass... In the darkest portion of the
tank...I have not changed the bulbs recently, 4 months ago... And everything
else is fine? Any suggestions. He is now deflated and
looking sad. He gets fed three times a week on Mysis soaked in Selcon
and occasionally some finely diced Krill...
<Anemones move when they're not happy with something. Could be a change in
water movement, lighting, a fish picking on it, there's a lot of possibilities.
The deflating part may or may not be a bad thing, they do this when they're
ready do divide. And with that feeding schedule, I'm surprised you don't have a
hundred by now!>
He has also never fully developed his bubbles. He had them when he
was small but since he grew, nothing.
<Neither has mine. Some say a resident clownfish will make this happen, but
I've seen plenty w/ clowns that didn't have bubble tips. Alas...>
If you have any suggestions I would appreciate it. Other wise G-D
willing I will write to you in another three years. :)
<Just keep an eye on it, there's really nothing you can do besides make sure
it doesn't get sucked up into a powerhead! See ya in three years! -Kevin>
Hope you are all well....
Cheers.
Paul
BTA? Induced Schizogyny
Bob, Thanks for the great presentation Thursday night in Phoenix. I had a
couple Q's regarding BTA's reproducing. My two have spilt 4 times over the last
1 1/2,one just the other day. You mentioned that you knew of a way that they
"repro" quicker? I would like to learn more about this. If I can
prevent a couple BTA's being collected every year, I'd feel better.
<Can be induced... often incidental with an "accident" that results
in "poor water quality". In purposeful propagation (asexual) by
cutting the animal... in the case of actinarians, across the body wall (but not
pedicle) in line with the mouth slit>
Let me give you some stats on my set up: It's an 80g tank with an 55g rear tank
(fed my bulkheads). The return pumps are 692gph going into a pair of SCWD's
(wave makers). The tank has been skimmerless for two years that's when the BTA's
started splitting). I have 6" DSB and about 200# of very alive live rock
(lots of sponges and such). Lighting is combo of PC and VHO (totally 600watts
over the 80g).I overfeed the tank everyday and try to manually feed each BTA
twice a week. they are pigs!. I have three species of clowns (only two of which
host in the BTA's, the other Saddleback hosts in a rock anemone), two A Clarkiis
and two Tomatoes (A frenatus?)(sorry not up on the real names). I'm hoping to get
an Rose BTA, in hopes of reproducing them too. I will be setting up another 80g
tank for that. Any info that you could provide would be appreciated. Do you know
of another way to detach them off the live rock?
<Best to slip a nail or dull plastic card (like an old credit card) under a
part of the foot that appears to be on a flat/ter piece of rock and slowly (over
minutes) nick away at that spot>
I've tried the ice cube in a Ziploc trick and placing an powerhead directly at
the BTA (the BTA after a day just loved the extra current!!) to no avail. Thanks
again. Michael
<Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
Bubble Tip Anemone BTA propagation 6/11/03
Good Afternoon WWM Crew-
<cheers, my friend>
My name is Tammy and I just turned 16 this year. My dad has a reef aquarium 180
gallons for 6 years and I help he with it all of the time.
<very good to hear... a rewarding and educational hobby indeed! Perhaps it
could lead you to a future vocation>
I feed the fish and the coral 4 days a week. My dad does it on the other days.
He has a rose anemone that split two month ago. My dad wants to sell it because
he thinks two in a tank is a bad thing.
<as clones of the same colony... they are not likely to fight. I do not see
two being any riskier than one. I personally do not care for them in a reef
tank. Mixing motile cnidarians with sessile ones is a recipe for disaster in the
long run. I favor species tanks for most all anemones>
I talked to him and he said that I can have it if it will be able to do well in
a small tank.
<I do believe that will work fine or better than your dads fending itself
against stinging corals in the mixed tank!>
We have a 20 gallon long tank that I would like to setup for the anemone only.
<by a window with natural sunlight (east or south is best)
I know that they can grow very big and sometimes never split. I don't want to be
mean and keep it in a tank that is not right for it. The reason I wanted to mail
you all was to ask if there is a way to keep them in a small tank and once they
get big you can propagate it like a mushroom.
<yes... all true. If you care to e-mail me next week with a reminder, I will
build a slideshow of images and give you the link... our friend Daniel Knop
illustrated this in a German magazine article called Koralle>
My dad said he read that Mr. Calfo was working on something like that.
<yes... really quite simple too... they are just cut in half with a clean
scalpel or razor blade. Returned to same general position/location in the tank
to heal. You can sell off the healed split clones in time>
My dad will help me keep this anemone in this tank and he has a lot of
experience fragging corals. He said I should ask you all if this is a smart idea
or not.
<its a great idea in my opinion. I do believe you can enjoy an anemone this
way just fine>
I hope it will be ok but I will tell my dad to sell the anemone if it is not a
good idea. My dad said that if you wanted to talk to him about fragging the
anemone when it gets to big that he will email you.
<please feel welcome to do so... and do remind me again for the slideshow
next week for you of the BTA cutting>
Thank you very much and we love your website, Tammy
<our great pleasure, best regards Anthony>
Are my BTA plans A-OK?
Hello, Thanks for your Site!
<Hi Flo, PF with you tonight>
Sorry for the lengthy email, but I'm trying to get this right. I am
creating an anemone/clownfish tank because I've always wanted one but wanted to
do it successfully. I wanted to run these ideas past you before
starting as I'd like to minimize any potential errors. I've gotten
fairly good advice from my LFS but they are in the business of selling me
things, and have occasionally given me wrong advice.
<An all too common occurrence. Some of the translations of LFS I've heard are
not appropriate for a family site such as this.>
I have a 75 gallon soft coral tank with a couple fish including a Mandarin
Dragonette (had a year and he is very healthy and happy- lots of live always
available food). Good water parameters, small weekly water changes
help keep this tank healthy. This is going well, so I'm trying
another tank.
<Ok>
I've done lots of research on BTA's through your well organized site and on the
net, but as it happens cannot find exactly what I am doing and would rather
modify my plans now rather than killing anything or trying to save something
because I screwed up. I'm looking at purchasing a BTA from someone
locally who has had BTA's split in their tank. I think I'll have a
better chance of keeping it alive by purchasing a tank raised specimen that
hasn't endured shipping, and from what I've read most of these shouldn't be
taken from the sea. So I'll be using my 40 gallon with one 175w MH
w/a 10,000k bulb, and a regular 30w florescent for a bit of blue actinic light.
The individual who has had these split is using MH's on smaller tanks and the
anemones look good so I'm trying to replicate the environment. Should
I use one 55w actinic PC with the MH instead of regular florescent or does it
matter?
<Well, the actinics are more for our enjoyment, but 30w NO isn't that much.
If you're looking for the fluorescent look, go with the PC's, or use VHO's. The
lighting sounds good.>
I have about 50 lbs of already cured good live rock used from another tank in
the 40 gallon, but to move the tank a distance added new water. There
is nothing else in the tank except water, the live rock, and 3-4 inches of live
sand and a bit of normal growth on the live rock like attached small dusters
etc. I'm thinking about waiting a month and then starting to stock
the tank
to let it cycle again. Is this right?
<Well, anemones like well aged tanks. I'd say wait six months (the number one
commodity in short supply among most aquarists: patience). Provide the tank with
a few pinches of food every couple of days so your detritivore population can
build up, ramp up the food slowly and your population will grow.>
Then I want to add 1-2 3" BTA anemones first and leave them for a month,
then provided they are doing well, add two small clownfish. I think
I'm better off adding the BTA and
letting it settle before the clownfish.
<I would agree, but you might want to wait for the BTA's to get a little
bigger before adding the clowns, say another inch of growth. Give them a couple
of months (3-4) to settle in.>
I'm thinking Percula Clowns as they are small and very attractive fish- it looks
like they could be compatible possibly and I'm not sure I want a more difficult
anemone. If they do not take to the anemone that'd be ok- but I hope
they like it. Do you have any better recommendation for clownfish?
<I like both true and false Percs. As for getting them to host, I
Photoshopped a picture of a false perc and a Caribbean Rock anemone together and
taped it to the outside of my tank. It took a week for them to get the idea. Be
aware, they can and will change hosts. Mine moved from the anemone, to a
powerhead (they don't call them clowns for nothing), and now my hammer coral. Go
figure...>
And is that timeframe fine?
<See above>
I'm looking at 1.025 Specific Gravity and a 78-80 Degree
Temperature. Is that good?
<Yes, also, don't forget to feed your BTAs. Chopped seafood, preferably
whole. Some prefer fish, others shrimp or squid. Guts and all.>
After all the BTA and clowns, I'd like to add a couple maxima
clams. From what I've read on the site, that should be
OK. If anything out grows the tank (if all is happy it should) I'll
upgrade to a larger tank.
<I'm not completely up on clams, but I'm guessing they would be ok, you might
want to ask around for a second opinion though.>
I have a skimmer that is rated for up to 250 gallons and sump that is running on
this tank. And two maxi-jet powerheads to provide water motion.
<Sounds good, remember, the anemones will move if they don't like where they
are.>
Sound ok? Anything else I should do or add or change to give the
prospective tank inhabitants ?
<A clean up crew, and maybe some cleaner shrimp, and peppermints. Just a few
suggestions.>
Thanks,
Flo
<You're welcome, have a good evening, PF>
Bubble tip anemone BTA 5/28/03
I have recently bought a large BTA and I just wanted to know how long it would
take for him to split.
<beyond water quality, it often depends on how well (and what) you are
feeding it>
I have talked to many aquarists and they have told me that I have sufficient
enough lighting and plenty of space in a well established aquarium with corals
and several Ocellaris clownfish.
<I am certain that keeping anemones with coral is a bad long-term
arrangement. It's unnatural for most and an unnecessary risk between motile and
sessile cnidarians. And for optimal success (reproduction) you will fare much
better with the anemone in a proper species-specific tank>
My BTA is currently around 2 inches from the surface and I am feeding it on a
regular basis. He seems to be in perfect condition although sometimes he will
totally deflate and you can practically see through him.
<ahhh... riiiiiight. Regular feedings of an unspecified frequency, and perfect
water quality of undefined parameters definitely makes me want to chime up in
agreement. Especially after hearing that "shrivelly, transparent"
phase it like to got through. Heehee... ahhh, hope you are rested and receptive
to sarcasm on reading this reply <G>. The anemone is likely all fine, my
friend. But I really have little to offer you here with no information to go on.
No tank mates, no age of specimen... no size ("large" relative to
what?)... no tank size, types of food fed, etc>
Thanks for all the great FAQs and messages provided that have really helped
along the way. Best regards, Alex Harris
<our pleasure, Alex. Let me suggest you delve deeper into the FAQs and
articles, my friend. We have quite a lot of articles on BTAs. I have answered
FAQs about artificially propagating them... we have an article posted describing
husbandry and how to induce natural fission... an so much more. Good reading
ahead of you bub. Kindly, Anthony>
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