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Discussion with a long time hobbyist?      5/23/16
Hi Mr. Fenner,
<Hey Jas>
I was reminded of you through a Reddit post that I created. I’ll keep this brief, I promise.
<Take your time>
I’m a 41 year old guy recently unemployed for the first time in 25 years. I’m also in the process of finally finishing my college degree (B.S. Business Management.) I am working on my final capstone project where part of the project is to research a particular industry – or in this case, hobby. I’m looking for someone to chat with (a few emails back and forth at most) regarding the technological and scientific advancements in the hobby in the past 20-30 years or so. I have a lot of information so far, but I’d like to get information from someone who has seen it firsthand. I’m afraid I have little to offer in return, other than to say that I always enjoy reading your website – the way you answer inquiries keeps me amused and informed all at the same time.
Let me know if you would be interested in sharing some of your experiences – I appreciate your time.
<Glad to be of assistance. Bob Fenner>
--
Best,
Jason Hickey
Re: Discussion with a long time hobbyist?      5/23/16

Thank you Mr. Fenner,
<Happy to help>
I am attempting to enlist the experiences of the more notable experts in the hobby. I have prepared a short list of questions – any information that you would like to share will be very much appreciated. The information provided will be used only to provide a synopsis of trends in the industry – no identifying information will be presented unless you would like to be a cited source for the history part of my presentation. Again, this is only for my capstone project – the only thing I will gain from this is a passing grade :)
1. How long have you been involved in the aquaria hobby?
<49 years about>
2. What “flavor” of the hobby have you mostly focused on (freshwater tropical, freshwater planted, specific species (cichlids, etc.) marine, etc.?)
<The last twenty five or so, marine, before; freshwater, plants, ponds, cichlids, oddballs>
3. Are you a known expert/contributor to the hobby? If so, what online “haunt” are you most known for being associated with?
<Mmm; likely the website WetWebMedia.com, but have a bunch of titles, several hundred articles in print>
4. Are you a known expert on a specific subject within the hobby (natural planted tanks, specific species, special landscape styles, etc.?)
<Don't think anything specifically. Have helped popularize ideas, practices... the use of refugiums, dipping/bath procedures in the trade...>
5. Regarding when you first seriously became involved in the hobby until present, what would you say the biggest change has been in the hobby?
<The biggest... filtration, lighting, circulation.... May be the Net, as a vehicle for dissemination of inspiration, input...>
Have you been instrumental in any big changes?
<Perhaps a small part>
6. Same as above, except what would you say has remained constant general knowledge?
<The basics... of biology, applied technology... the human interface at all levels>
7. What do you consider to be the biggest misconception regarding the aquaria hobby?
<By lay people, that it is an important source of human-caused aquatic life mortality, that it contributes to degradation of the environment. The fact of the matter is the opposite: that encouraging folks to carefully use their natural resources, they are compelled to preserve them>
8. Any further comments regarding the evolution of the hobby?
<A joyous place, activity. Oh for a world where most people can have a brush with the natural world. The future is more captive production, but I fear that human population growth, apathy and avarice will be all's undoing.>
Once again, thank you for your time – I greatly appreciate it.
-
Best,
Jason Hickey
<Thank you, Bob Fenner>
Re: Discussion with a long time hobbyist?      5/23/16

Thank you! This was perfect, and right along the lines of what I was expecting.
<Ahh! Do make it known if you'd like "elaboration" (I swear not pontification... well, not much). Cheers, BobF>
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Best,
Jason Hickey

AHHS:  ADDITIONS TO THE FILES SECTION AND MY DROPBOX. Al Klee's history of the aq. hobby      1/3/14
(1) I have uploaded a new article to the Files section titled, “The Myth of the Roman Aquarium: Reflections on Aquarium Hobby History Research.” (Note to Bob Fenner: If you want to use this version on WetWebMedia, by all means do so. It differs only in having four illustrations and being in pdf form.)
<Will look/see Al>
(2) I have added this to my
Compendium and this version has been uploaded to my DropBox.
(3) Lastly, I have made some changes to my “Toy Fish,” called it the Fourth Edition and uploaded it to my DropBox. In the main, only minor additions have been made in this edition.
In Chapter 10, for example, the publication history of Mulertt's “The Aquarium” has been expanded; in Chapter 13 a family portrait of William T. Innes (with his mother, grandmother and daughter) has been added; and in Chapter 16 additional information about “The Fish Fancier” has been added as well as an image of the first issue of the magazine. A number of additions have also been made to the bibliography and corrections have made to the Index. In the “The History of Glass” (Addendum A6), however, considerable material (5 pages) has been added concerning the First Century Romans and their dining habits, as well as a refutation of the assertion that the Romans of that time had fish tanks made of marble with one side of flat glass.
The Compendium and the Toy Fish, Fourth Edition, can be downloaded from my DropBox using the following URL:  http://tinyurl.com/lao6q2b
Al Klee

Article Submission. Romans, aquarium history      1/1/14
Bob:
<Hey Al>
Attached is an article I am submitting for publication consideration at WetWebMedia.
My best,
Al Klee
<Looks like your usual good work. How much compensation are you wanting to have it posted (non-exclusive) on WWM? BobF>
Re: Article Submission      1/1/14

Bob:
<Al>
What compensation? If you like it, post it.
<Mmm; well, I/we don't mind paying for content>
 I'm not sure what you mean by "non-exclusive."
<Oh! We/WWM don't buy "universal rights" to others content. In other words, you are (certainly) free to sell, post the work else/anywhere>
Well, I do know what the words mean but not in this context. In any event I'd like to see this piece get the greatest possible coverage.
<Ahh!>
As you know I have been nibbling away at this topic on the AHHS site for some time now, but I finally decided to get serious and do it right.
My best,
Al
<Thank you. Will post on the morrow w/ credit to you. Cheers, BobF, who last saw you here in San Diego in 1971 I believe... after the bard of fishes had passed, you'd taken over the helm of The Aquarium (Magazine).>
Minor Corrections   1/3/14

Thanks for posting my material, folks. By the way, if you haven't already done it, please remove the email at the bottom.
<Ah, yes Al. Have done: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/MythRomanAqKlee.htm
Also, if you can do it, could you please add the subtitle, “Reflections on Aquarium Hobby History Research,” so that the title reads “The Myth of the Roman Aquarium: Reflections on Aquarium Hobby History Research.” If not, no big deal.
Again, many thanks,
Al
<Will add next day. Cheers, BobF>
Email still there    1/4/14

Bob:
<Al>
I just checked the website and although you added the subtitle as I asked, that email crap is still at the bottom,
<... that it provides some backgd. on who you are, how the work came to be placed on WWM is not "crap">
which doesn’t make either of us look good. Since you have to delete it, why not delete everything and use the attached pdf file?
Al
<... as you wish. B>

Re: Old thread...new comment, history, evolution of the hobby   5/7/09
Hi Bob
<Leon>
Cheers as always for the quick response. Unfortunately not going to be at the conference...the joys of working and studying at the same time tend to have a somewhat deleterious effect on free time and disposable income. Then again, so does fish-keeping (4 systems and counting...going to need a bigger house soon!) so what am I complaining about? :-)
<Life? No sense>
If you're attending any functions in Aus in the foreseeable future, let me know as I'd certainly appreciate the opportunity to take you up on your invitation to bend your ear with a few questions (not to mention the fact that I've never attended an industry conference before).
<None planned, but/though the airfares are very reasonable currently from the U.S. to/from there. Will be in Asia in a couple weeks for thirty some days>
As for a possible presentation on the evolution of the hobby... I'll have to chew that one over. I do incidentally have a work background which includes biology and adult education (i.e. have given more than my fair share of presentations), however as someone with only a few years in the hobby I think I would be suffering from a case of "what would I have to present that the audience wouldn't already know?"
<I know this sensation>
Anyways, all the best. More questions coming soon, I'm sure (and take the hint to try and keep emails smaller than my usual novels in future).
Regards
Leon
<Be chatting, BobF>

New to the dark side - 11/29/05 Hi! I've taken care for a freshwater fish tank for 3 years now, and so far none of my fish have died. I want to try a marine aquarium, but I'm a little afraid. I'm willing to buy all supplies and equipment needed to start one. Are marine aquariums for experts? <Certainly not. But they do require a bit of research. WWM should help you there! It's much easier if you take your time in setting it up.> And I have one more question. I have actually been doing a lot of research on marine aquariums. <good to hear!> I went to my local Petco to check out the livestock. I found out that they did not have any kind of warranty for marine fish. I was thinking about getting tangs, so I went to the section. I found a few Naso tangs that I really liked. The thing was, they were swimming kind of slow, and they had weird brownish and blackish spots around the gill area. Should I buy fish from there, or should I go to a marine specialty shop if I do start the marine hobby? <I would prefer a specialty shop myself... but be sure to quarantine any livestock for at least a month to be safe. Do read up on Naso Tangs - they need a large tank - and avoid having more than one tang unless you are planning on a very large system indeed.> Thanks a Lot! <You're welcome! Regards from Shanghai, John>

Petfish Acronyms, Arcane Terminology Bob: Will try to be more economical with my questions. I am awaiting delivery of your TCMA and Anthony's RI among other saltwater related books. I have Googled WWM for "acronyms", "abbreviations", "WWM terms", "industry terms" and several other key words or phrases to no avail. Where may I find a list of their meanings. Most I have been able to recognize but some still elude me. TYVM, Benjamin <Ahh, the mystery... do please send along these curiosities... We don't have a thesaurus or ornamental lexicography per se... Bob Fenner> "Beautiful Hair Algae" Bob, <James> When you get time you may find this item interesting.  Back in the late 60's in my freshwater days I heard of a new shop opening about 12 miles away, "Love's Aquarium". <Heee! An appropriate name for the times... Did they have paisleys and peace signs on their windows?> While browsing through the store I came upon 7 or 8 crystal clear tanks with fish that had colors I've never saw before....gorgeous.  My first encounter face to face with marine fish.  Naturally I had to have a saltwater tank.   Anyway to shorten this up, several weeks later, again at Love's, I came upon this beautiful mustard yellow fish.  Tom says (Love) that's a yellow tang.   Wrap him up Tom.  Not so fast Jim.  This fish requires a healthy green algae growth to survive (1969).  Well, I didn't have algae.  I did everything imaginable to grow it.  Daylight, warm white, cool white, plant lights, no algae.  Also didn't use skimmers or wet/dries then.  So, no algae, no tang.   A few years later Aquarium Systems came out with "Sea Garden".  The answer to my prayers.  Off we went to get Sea Garden.  In two weeks, I'll have my yellow tang.  No you won't, still no algae.  OK Bob, bottom line is, back then I pulled my hair out trying to grow algae to no avail.  Why is it now, that one of the biggest problems with marine systems is the prevention of algae, when over 30 years ago, I couldn't grow it to win a bet?  I always think about that when I get an algae outbreak. Jim (Salty Dog) James Gasta <Yet another example of "Murphy's Law" in petfishing! BobF>

Research paper Hello Bob, If you think it's good enough to post on WWM, I would be proud to have it appear. Thanks and Peace, Joe
<Thank you Joe. Will indeed post. Bob Fenner>



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