Newish SW system, yellowing
6/9/08
Hello,
first I want to say thanks for helping out people like me that love this hobby.
I have a couple of questions. i have a new 75g Oceanic with a Oceanic 20g
wet/dry with bio media, and Oceanic skimmer, wave maker with four power heads
for current, MagDrive 7 for the sump, Lighting I have a coral life double
actinic 65w and double white light 65w also for lighting 2 -48" coral life and
lunar lights, I also have a pump for air to the bio-media chamber inside the
sump and an extra air hose airing the media balls. My tank runs at temp 77-79.
I've had it running for 7 days with nothing but semi live rock and the sand from
my old tank.
Now my tank has a yellow brownish tint to it, I just added reef active carbon.
hope it will work. Now should i use carbon?
<Mmm, yes... likely a good idea. I take it the system is/will be pretty much
pre-cycled from moving so much of the older tanks contents>
What's wronged with my tank?
<Likely just microbial/algal proliferation...>
I just bought an red sea ozoniser should I use it now or wait till later?
<I would add, turn it on>
Any advise will be greatly appreciated. what should I run the ozone at?
<Perhaps a "target" of about 325 micro-Siemens per cm... with an upper limit of
375>
Thank you
GARCIA, JORGE
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Dropped a Tiny Screw in My Saltwater Tank – 05/23/08
Hi Eric,
<<Hello Michael>>
I have a problem.
<<Uh oh>>
Accidentally dropped a (tiny) screw into my tank.
<<Mmm, I see (I wonder how you say “oh crap!” in Danish? [grin] >>
Tried to find it, but was unsuccessful (Actually, almost turned the tank upside
down to find it). What do I do? Please don’t tell me that I have to break down
the tank.
<<Ah, not at all my friend… The “tiny screw” will very likely pass unnoticed in
your system. But for some added peace of mind; if you aren’t already doing so,
you can add a heavy-metal scavenging media like Poly-Filter to your filtration
system (I would (I do!) run this media all the time).
Thanks,
Michael Fick
Denmark
<<Regards, Eric Russell…South Carolina, USA>>
RE: Dropped a Tiny Screw in My Saltwater Tank – 05/24/08
Hi Eric,
<<Hello Michael>>
Thanks for your reply.
<<Quite welcome>>
That was a relief!
<<Ah good>>
So you don’t think there will be a "Rust issue?"
<<Considering the amount of metal and the volume of water involved…no>>
That was my primary concern.
<<I don’t really think you need be>>
I don’t think that Poly-Filters are available in Denmark, but I will check it
out.
<<Hmm…perhaps an Internet order then…>>
Thanks Eric
<<My pleasure, Michael>>
P.S. The Danish translation for "oh crap!" is "Sikke noget lort!"
<<Haha! Thank you for this my friend. Eric Russell>>
High ORP Readings 5/16/08
Hi team,
<Hi Dave>
My ORP readings consistently range from ~450 first thing in the morning before
the lights come on, dipping to ~425 by the end of the day. Then they rise
through the night cycle and repeat again the next day. They've been like this
for some 9+ months ever since setting up my 900l reef system.
<I little on the high side.>
I've read that readings over 400 can be dangerous but touch wood I haven't had
any casualties for either fish or inverts. Current hosts are a 4" Hippo Tang, a
4" Yellow Tang, a 3" Potter's Angel, 2 Yellow Tailed Damsels and a cleaner
shrimp. There are 2 mushroom corals, a large pulsating xenia, a small euphyllia
torch coral and 2 trachyphyllia. All are thriving in the 650 l main display with
120kg of live rock. There is a 250 l sump/refugium that has a 6" DSB, 20kg of
live rock and an abundance of Caulerpa verticalla running under 2 x T5 daylight
tubes on reverse cycle to the display. I do have an ozoniser which is set
to come on at readings below 350 and turn off at 400 and feeds into the venturi
of my Aqua Medic skimmer. The ORB probe is connected to this unit and the probe
is submerged in the baffles prior to the sump return chamber. With readings
always over the 400 mark, this unit has rarely come on save for once when I was
away on holiday over Christmas for 3 weeks and hadn't done a water change for
several weeks. Upon return the readings were down to 320. I did a good sized
(20%) water change and the readings returned to their 400+ state. I also
have 2 x 25 UV which are in line on the output of 2 x Eheim Pro II canister
filters that contain mechanical filtration, carbon and PO4 absorbent material.
These are maintained every 4 weeks at least.
Water parameters are perfect. OK just kidding :-) here they are...
Salinity 1.026
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0
Temp 25C - 26C
PH 8.0 - 8.2
Calcium 450
Q. Should I be concerned with these high ORP readings?
<I'm almost certain your probe needs to be checked with a calibration solution.
Your readings should be closer to 350 in your system. I'd really be surprised if
indeed they were that high. James (Salty Dog)>
Cheers
Dave
29 gallon reef not looking good. 05/10/2008
I have a problem and I am not sure what it is. Three days ago all my corals
shrunk up and are not looking good, I need some advice.
<Ok>>
First of all, I have been running this tank for years with no problems, I
installed a gate vale inline in the sump for the pump and that is when I noticed
a problem. Could there be contaminates in the valve that are causing my tank
major stress?
<<Highly doubt>>
Here is what I have:
29 gal tank
30 lbs live rock with 2" sand and crushed coral bed
Euro reef skimmer
Mag 5 return with CPR overflow
250 watt MH 10000K 14" above tank
Salinity 1.025
Ph 8.1
Amm/Nitite/nitrate - 0
Alk 10 dkh
Ca 380 ppm <<A little low>><Hmm... not necessarily for these types
of corals. -Sara M.>
Phosphate 0
Livestock - Frogspawn, colonial polyps, mushrooms, other polyp I am not sure
what it is - Coral banded shrimp - clown fish - watchman goby. The fish seem
normal even though the goby is not as active. The shrimp seems like he is not
doing well. He is not moving and was wondering if he was going to shed his skin
and it is just coincidence.
<<More info is really required. Lighting times, feeding times, foods etc etc.
How often do you water change, and how much?
Like I said everything was looking good and now it is really hating it.
Any help would be great.
<<Thanks, A Nixon>>
Good
intentions, but now I'm stuck... 4/21/08
Crew,
<Hello, Scott V. with you.>
Thanks so much for the great resource you've got here!
<Thank you!!>
I hope I make it far enough in the hobby to use them beyond this week!
<You assuredly will.>
I've been trying to search for some answers on your site as to my particular
problem, but I didn't see any - hopefully, this is not a repost. I recently got
some live sand (20 lbs) and water in the hopes of helping to cycle my first 20g
tank along. In addition to water, I also got a heater, some test kits, a
powerhead, and a filter.
<What kind of filter, size?>
I kept the sand sealed in two large Ziploc bags filled with the tank water, and
brought it all home. The next day, I placed the sand into my new aquarium with
the water, envisioning a neat little micro-community.
<Any truly live sand should be added ASAP, before the bags become anoxic.>
Unfortunately, it seems things have taken a turn for the worse. Over the last
two days, I've been noticing an increasing amount of light brownish detritus
covering my sand bed, and I've noticed that the water is starting to smell
'funny'. My test kits showed about a .5 on my ammonia (yikes!), a 3.5 ppm on my
nitrite, and an alarming 200 ppm on my nitrate - as dark as it could get.
<Hmm, not good.>
Water is a decent 76F, and specific gravity is 1.025.
<Good numbers.>
Is there any hope?
<Oh yes.>
LFS guy said I should just scrap the whole thing and start over, but I found
this advice to be a bit suspect as he proceeded to quote me the prices on
everything I would need to "start it right this time", which came out to well
over a hundred dollars.
<I feel the same way here.>
Any advice would be most appreciated!
<Without knowing your filtration specifics, if the sand was truly live, it was
likely killed off by a night in the Ziploc bags. This accounts for your high
readings. Give it time, the numbers will go down (except nitrates, need some
water changes) as the tank continues to cycle. Starting over will accomplish
nothing. If anything needs to be replaced it is the water, hardly $100! The sand
can and should be rinsed to remove any dead matter. The water quality will not
ruin the filter or tank. Wait this out before adding any livestock.>
Thanks in advance,
DS
<Welcome, Scott V.>
White specks 4-19-08
Hi Crew,
<How goes it? Mike with you today>
Great Site, a real Godsend.
<Thanks - it helps us all>
My tank is battling an infestation of a small white flake like organism that
swims around in the water and irritate the fish. I believe my fish are stressed
and flashing against rocks and the tank to relieve themselves. Could you please
recommend a course of treatment?
<Weird. Do you have a picture? Also, what are you water parameters and
inhabitants?>
I have a seventy five litre tank with an Eheim canister filter, air pump and air
disk. In my battle with the "organism" I recently removed the crushed coral as
it contained multiple small organisms in it, which I suspected may have been
connected to white flake in the water.
Thank you in advance for your help, Warm Regards,
<Get back to me, but do read regarding curing marine ich...likely the popular
'cures' to marine ich will also eliminate this parasite>
Darren
<M. Maddox>
Help please my water went
cloudy white, SW... BTA sucked up... 03/05/2008
Hi Crew, love your website and am learning a lot from it ( thank you )
<<Hello, Andrew today, and thanks for the comments>>
Could you please help me with my marine tank problem?
<<I'll do my best>>
Tank is 220L volume and this morning i came downstairs to find the water in the
tank had gone very cloudy white.
I have since found out what it is, believe it or not the bubble anemone had been
sucked into my 6000lph powerhead.
<<Such a shame to hear this>>
My question is this, will this kill my canister filters and what do i have to do
to the water in my tank now.
<<No, it wont kill your canister filters, simply keep good water changes, and
the tank will clear up soon enough>>
I have changed 20% of the water (RO) that's all i had made up ready. The problem
is i am away now for four days. The tank has now cleared and tested the water
NH4,NO2,NO3,PH salt and temperature are all fine.
<<As long as all the above tests are showing up correctly, i would not worry
about this issue, maybe just learn from it>>
My fish and feather dusters, corals and crabs seem fine also.
<<This is good>>
I would be grateful if you could help me with this cloudy water problem ( it is
not cloudy now but is the water contaminated )
<<You did the right thing by attacking the issue with water changes. It should
be fine now its cleared>>
Thank you so much. Regards..........Martin Steelton
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Salinity and other water chem
Q's 2-10-08
Hi gang. I love the site. It's the best reference on the web!
<Thanks - I agree>
I had a couple of questions for you. First my tank and parameters. I have a 92
gal. corner bow, about a 30 gal. refugium, and a 30 gal. sump. I cycled it with
100lbs. of live rock and its been up for 5 weeks.? Here's some pics.
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I made the stand and hood. Niceeee!!!
<Yes it is, it looks really good. Nice job>
Sorry, back to the subject, the water parameters.
pH is between 8.17 to 8.24 depending on time of day.
SG 1.026.
alkalinity 11dkh or 3.93l.
Ammonia .1 (I find it vary hard to read. I use the LaMotte and the 0.05,and
the.1 are all close variations of yellow) I tried a dip stick, but it's not
sensitive enough. Do you know of one that might be easier to read. If this is
right, I don't know why. All I have in the tank is about 40 various snails to
clean up the algae and 2 peppermint shrimp to eat up the 6 or so pest anemones
(which there not doing! I can't even find them!)
<Looks good to me, except the ammonia obviously. There are a couple of
possibilities here - that the rock is still curing, that you don't have enough
water flow, or that you don't have enough rock. I'd be inclined to think the
first one. What's your (hopefully random, turbulent) water flow look like?
Regarding the 'pest' anemones, which I'm assuming are Aiptasia or Majano, I
would run the tank 'stockless' and feed very little, while attempting to
manually remove the ones you find. These guys could be a nightmare if not taken
care of soon!>
I also seem to have about 4 clams of some sort, also on the rock. They open and
close so I know there alive; could they be a problem?
<No, beneficial if anything>
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 2
Carbon dioxide <7 (another hard to read LaMotte kit.)
Dissolved oxygen 6.2 low?
<No>
Calcium 330
Magnesium 1275
Silica 0
Phosphate .1 (I also have a phosphate reactor running. I don't know why its
still .1.)
<Due to the dieoff/cycling...change your media>
Looking at this data, what jumps out at you?
<Nothing, other than the ammonia>
My thoughts are (other then the ammonia) calcium is low.
<Looks fine to me...a little on the low side, but that allows for a higher
alkalinity which I prefer anyway, unless you plan on having several Tridacnids>
How would you raise it? by adding:
a) Kalkwasser (drip)
b) turbo calcium (Kent)
c) liquid calcium (Kent)
d) reef calcium (SeaChem)
e) none of the above
<Kalkwasser is always my preferred method of calcium delivery, whether via drip,
shot, in the top off water, or via reactor>
This is what I have on hand.
I have something that I don't know what they are, I have about 3 of them in the
rock. They have 8 arms that look like roots which they extend to filter feed.
They take 1 arm at a time, and put it in their mouth. It's fascinating to watch.
Here's a pic. What do you think this is? Or where do I even begin to look to
find out?
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there's two visible in/on this rock.
<Looks like it could be a Crinoid - see if you can get a clearer pic. By the
way, where did your order your live rock, and where is it from geographically?
Looks like very nice rock!>
Thanks for your time and expertise.
<Anytime, get back to me about the water movement, but I'm betting your ammonia
is due to your live rock, which seems to be covered in animals, which leads to
an increase in die-off vs. less populated rock. I'm betting your ammonia goes
away given another week or so>
Tony
<M. Maddox>
Re: Salinity and other water
chem Q's Part II 2-11-08
Thanks for the fast reply. Here's what I have for water flow. From the sump,
a blue-line 1000, pumping about 650 gal.hr. In the tank there's a mag
18(supposedly 1800 gal/hr) in a closed loop which is built in the hood- see pic.
I also have 2 Koralia power heads. 1 is 1200 gal/hr; the other is 600 gal/hr.
see pics.
<Looks good>
The live rock. 50 lbs., came from http://www.gulf-view.com/prem_coraline.html
It looked like it came right out of the ocean.
<Yes, it does - I've been on reefs that didn't have rock that nice!>
He sent it air freight same day, and I picked it up at the airport as soon as it
arrived,
with minimum time out of water. 80 lbs of Fiji came from Mr Marine on e-bay, and
was stripped pretty clean.
I kind of scrubbed off the Florida rock when I got it. It had some sponges on
it, and I scrubbed most of them off except this one in the pic.
Since then, it has cracked, and it looks like copepods or something are crawling
in it, and it has pitted up some. Could this be my ammonia problem?
<Possibly/partly...as I said earlier, things will be dying, especially off of
rock that populated, and IMO all will be fine given another 1-2 weeks. Patience>
Should I remove it?
<Only if it's obviously dying/decaying>
As for the Aiptasia, I don't see how I'm going to be able to get them out.
There's no way to cut them out. They act like they have eyes and
when ever I get close they duck for cover. I pulled out a rock and scrubbed the
spot but didn't even touch it. I may have killed one with a turkey baster
full of boiling water, but I have one in the crux of a couple of live clams. I
don't want to boil them.
<Try a syringe of "Joe's Juice" or Kalkwasser paste and inject them in the base>
What do you think of Nudibranchs? Should I get a couple, then pass them on to
others.
<Berghia spp. are a possibility, but only that. Yes, they will eat the anemones,
but they'll also possibly starve to death before they even find the anemones.
It's possible to find them tank bred online, I would purchase a few of these if
that's what you decide to do>
I was hoping the peppermint shrimp were going to eat them.
Here are the pics.
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Initially, I didn't think I was getting enough flow, so I capped the inside two
flow outlets you see in the pic.
<Nice job on the DIY work, it looks good. Let me know if you still have
detectable ammonia in two weeks. M. Maddox>
Unit conversions 1/8/08
hey not to be a jerk but there are actually 4 quarts to a gallon and two
pints to a quart :)
<Heeee! I must have been drinking too many pints! Thank you for this>
also since I didn't see anything specific on the page and it might be helpful.
There are approximately:
3.8 liters per gallon
976 ml (.976 l per quart)
2.2 lbs per kilo
231 cubic inches per gallon
a pints a pound the world around, as such a gallon is approx 8 pounds (8.33)
Celsius to Fahrenheit is 9/5(C) + 32 = F
hope this is helpful to at least some one :)
Cheers
<Danke. Bob Fenner>
Potassium too low, Boron too high,
other possible issues....
Water Quality And Going Overboard 1/1/08
Hey WetWebMedia folks....
<Hello Glenn>
I send a water sample weekly to a lab for testing from my 600 gallon FOWLR
system.
<Wowsie, pretty pricey isn't it?>
As you can see from the most recent tests, the Potassium component (too low and
dropping) seems to be an issue, while the Boron (suspecting my salt mix is the
culprit here, using Instant Ocean Reef Crystals for the last two years) is too
high. If salt mix is a/the probable bad guy, would appreciate recommendations on
alternative mix.
<You are going overboard with the lab work. Reef Crystals is one of the better
salt mixes out there. Bi-monthly 10% water changes should provide all the
essential elements needed by your inhabitants. Calcium will have to be
maintained by additives.>
The magnesium component is coming back (using supplemental addition little by
little), but I do not see any of my usual suppliers (Drs. Foster & Smith and
Marine Depot) offering a straight Potassium supplement/additive.
<I don't know if anyone sells such...Bob?><<I don't... and don't know of anyone
who does presently... this element is not often in short supply. RMF>>
I don't want to be "chasing numbers" but some of these seem to be potentially
serious problems. Or, am I concentrating on those numbers that look most
out-of-whack, while missing something more fundamental?
Your general guidance re: the apparent health/appearance of the organisms in the
system plays a part here... everything from fish to inverts is fine:
good color, vigor and appetite across the board. Some small issue with hair
algae, but hey, what's new?
I do about a 75 gallon water change regime weekly, source water comes from a
5-stage RO (no DI, no Hi-S stage) unit. Two large Euro-Reef protein skimmers
pull the crud out.
<Sounds like a good plan to me.>
PS - The letters H, G, L simply are my way of referencing High, Good or Low
concentrations as a quick overview.
Water Testing Results 11/01/07 11/08/07 11/20/07 12/03/07
12/10/07 12/17/07 12/24/07 Ammonia .010 G .007 G .005 G 0.014 G .006 G 0.001 G
.002
G Nitrite .007 G .007 G .006 G 0.003 G .007 G .005 G .003 G Nitrate 2.3 G
1.2 G 1.3 G 1.7 G 1.4 G 1.4 G 1.3 G Phosphate .10 G .11 G .25 G .24 G .26 G .26
H .02 G Silica 1.6 H .6 H 0.0 G .5 G 1.0 H 1.3 H 0.6 H Potassium 287 L 271
L 253 L 248 L 234 L 210 L 207 L Calcium 258 L 286 L 258 L 241 L 202 L 391 G
401 G Boron 5.9 G 9.8 H 13.1 H 16.7 H 11.4 H 12.1 H 13.1 H Molybdenum 0.1 G
0.1 G 0.1 G 0.1 G 0.1 G 0.1 G 0.3 H Strontium 5.2 G 4.7 L 12.1 H 10.4 G 11.8 G
5.9 G 6.7 G Magnesium 960 L 1021 L 1049 L 838 L 963 L 776 L 902 L Iodine .03
G .01 L .01 L .03 G .02 L .05 G .06 G Copper .04 H .01 G .03 G .01 G .02 G
.02 G .02 G Alkalinity 3.96 G 4.01 G 3.36 G 4.09 G 3.89 G 3.42 G 3.03 G
Salinity 1.020 1.020 1.020 1.020 1.020 1.018 1.018 pH 8.000 7.950 8.000 8.250
8.350 8.400 8.350 ORP 350 335 345 365 365 375 380
<I do not see any serious problems here at all. The ORP/pH/alkalinity levels you
have certainly attest to good water quality in the regard that excess
nutrients/dissolved waste are very low. Just keep doing what you are doing my
friend. I'm curious to know what the fee is for one lab test. You may be wasting
your money here. >
Thanks for your feedback and suggestions/recommendations/insight.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Sincerely,
Glenn Brokaw
Reef water chemistry
question, reading 11/26/07
Hello,
I will get right to it. I have a 125 gallon reef tank. It has been up and
running for about 4 years now with minimal problems. Until now. Actually I am
not sure if it is a problem or not. This is where you come in. The PH level has
always been about 8.4 but my alkalinity measures at 15DKH, while my calcium
levels remain low at 225.
<Mmmm>
I am about 2 weeks overdue for a water change, but I am not sure if that will do
the trick. I dose calcium nightly in a 1 gallon container and drip it into the
sump (slurry method).
<As... Kalk...?>
I have been doing so for a while. I only use Instant Ocean salt mix, so I don't
think that is the problem.
<Actually... there have been quite a few folks write in that they have
experienced anomalies since the co. (A.S.) sold>
Is this level of Alkalinity a problem?
<Can/could be, yes... the "laid down" matrix of alkaline earths in the skeletons
of biomineralizing life in your system could well be marginalized... easily
breakable... as well as the physiologies of the life mal-affected>
I have stopped using C-balance since I noticed this high level. I have not
noticed and problems with my hammer coral or torch corals. How can I raise my Ca
level higher with causing an imbalance somewhere else? Any suggestions or are my
parameters OK?.. Happy Holidays and thank you...John
<Thanks... please peruse the articles and FAQs files here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/marine/maintenance/index.htm
about the ninth tray down. Bob Fenner>
Calcium Issue?...Maybe Not –
10/17/07
I have a 55G reef tank up and running successfully for two and a half years.
<<Excellent>>
I have always used the two part supplement B-Ionic on a daily basis, the same
dosage for all this time.
<<Hopefully validated by testing...>>
Recently, within the last month it seems the tank has stopped using the calcium.
I mean I have stopped using the B-Ionic and the calcium has remained at 450ppm
for at least three weeks now.
<<Perhaps other environmental issues/conditions have slowed growth of your
corals>>
I understand that corals go through periods when they stop using as much calcium
but does this scenario seem right to you?
<<Hard to say without much more detail about your system, water chemistry,
livestock, maintenance, etc.... But yes, is likely nothing to worry about>>
Should I continue to dose with B-Ionic or wait until the calcium levels begin to
drop?
<<Don’t dose if the tank doesn’t need it...but you make no mention of your
Alkalinity here>>
The tank has 0 ammonia and nitrite. The nitrates are high at 20ppm but water
changes are quickly changing this reading.
<<Ah, perhaps a clue! If you have “stepped-up” water changes to deal with the
Nitrates then this is likely what is maintaining your Calcium level>>
pH is 8.0 and steady, without the B-Ionic.
<<But is a bit low...>>
The corals look healthy, perhaps not thriving, they are not spreading at this
point.
<<And their appearance, continued good health are your best indicators whether
something is truly amiss here>>
But I am perplexed as to the cause of this new chemistry. How long can a reef
tank maintain pH/alkalinity and calcium without some additional supplementation?
<<A very nebulous question as virtually every tank is different...but...many
tanks, unless very heavily stocked, are able to maintain a balance of
bio-minerals/Earth elements through simple partial water changes. If
dosing/supplementation is required, well, your test kits are your best resource
for knowing what to dose and how much...let them be your guide>>
Should I be concerned or is this a normal phenomenon? Please Advise. Your advice
is greatly appreciated.
<<Continue to monitor water parameters, ensuring “all” are in line/balance...but
likely the water changes are providing all the supplementation you need right
now. EricR>>
Re: Water parameters help! Follow-up –
6/15/07
<Hey Chris! Sorry for the delay!>
Sorry, I do weekly 30% water changes and I use Instant Ocean salt... forgot to
mention that... <Ah! That is a good practice then!> I am currently not testing
for my Calcium levels, just my nitrates, nitrites, alkalinity, and pH... any
other ideas?
<Should test for Ca periodically since you are supplementing it, but that is not
really related to the question at hand. I did forget to mention the 3rd major
means of reducing nitrate and that is by using macroalgae to utilize it. Nitrate
is fertilizer for plants. It didn't sound like you have room for that in the
setup you have, but is always worth considering. Read re refugiums. The question
is - Where are the nitrates coming from? Source water? Test it, for sure!
Feeding too much? Make sure to rinse the frozen food before putting in tank.
Maybe try feeding less often if your fish aren't thin. And leave off the brine
shrimp - not as nutritious as the alternatives.> Should I put the sponge back in
then? <The sponge would provide mechanical filtration and provide a place for
the aerobic bacteria to convert ammonia/nitrite to nitrate. This is only a
problem if there is no anaerobic area in the tank to further break down the
nitrate. You may not be able to achieve this, so again, I think water changes
(with nitrate-free source water) is your best best. I would use the sponge, but
rinse it out frequently to avoid excess accumulation of crud.> Also, I heard
that you can take out the bio balls in one of the back compartments and replace
them with small bits of live rock... would this help at all? <I would try this
with the biggest bits you can fit. Be careful not too take out too much of your
biological filtration at once though. Live rock is definitely preferred to
bio-balls, as it has a chance of helping with the nitrate reduction, the balls
don't.> Also, I just took out the emerald crab...<yes, he could have been a
problem in this space eventually grabbing a fish.>
so the inhabitants are now the perc, the Dottyback, and the shrimp... thanks
in advance for all of the helpful advice. <With your water change regimen this
should be working for you. I suspect your source water may be coming with
nitrates, lots are having problems with this this year it seems. Alex.>
Cloudy Water, Marine 4/16/07
Hi there,
<Hello>
I have read your articles and wondered if you could come up with a solution to a
problem I am having. The water in my marine tank seems to have a 'milky' cloud
that I am unable to get rid of.
<Usually due to either a bacterial bloom caused by high ammonia/nitrite or sand
particles.>
I have a 110lt marine tank that is approx 4 months old. <About 29 US Gallons I
believe.>
The levels of nitrate/nitrite etc are ok <define ok> as is the ph level of 8.2 I
have an Ehiem filter system that is large enough to handle a 200lt tank and an
air stone. The fish in the tank are a trigger/clown/file/tailfin and a
wrasse. <Wow, too much life in such a small tank, my guess this is the source
of the problem.>
I take out approx 15% of the tank every two weeks or so and use a buffer to keep
the levels constant. The temp. is fine as is the salt density.
Over the last 4 weeks or so the water has started to become cloudy and looks
quite 'milky'. I have tried turning off the light for a few days and I have also
added some 'cotton wool' to the filter to try and sift out the algae to no
avail.
The fish 'seem' fine and happily eat whatever I give them.
Any help or thoughts would be very welcome.
Thanks
David.
<Too much life and probably overfeeding is leading to poor water quality I am
guessing. This leading to a bacterial bloom which causes the cloudiness.>
<Chris>
Cloudy Water, Marine Part II 4/16/07
Thanks for the input...will cut down on the feed and see what happens.
David
<Need to take a look at your stocking, ultimate cause of this problem.>
Purified water testing & trace elements Water Quality 4/8/07
Hello,
<Hi Greg.>
I've been testing my make-up water via a Salifert alkalinity test kit. The
water is purified via an Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Tap Water Purifier.
<A very expensive way to purify water. An RO purifier will save you much
money here.>
I always get 0 dKH when testing. The thing is though, recently I got close
enough to the aerating/stored make-up water to notice a fishy stink.
<Is the water being circulated/aerated?>
So I tested alkalinity and it read 0. So I'm thinking the alkalinity test
obviously isn't sufficient.
<???Alkalinity has nothing to do with water purity.>
I'm guessing a TDS meter will do the trick. What is the best way to catch
the purifier before it produces anything less than perfect water?
If you think a meter is the way to go, will the Pocket TDS Meter from Marine
Depot do the trick? The reason I ask is, it seems like it might be cheaply
made @ $29.95.
<Total Dissolved Solids testing is used to check the effectiveness of RO
units and I believe would also tell you the condition of the media in your
water purifier.
As for the meter MD sells, I'd ask them that question.>
Also, I use a Poly Filter and dose Seachem's Reef Builder and Reef
Advantage Calcium. Should I remove the Poly Filter for four days every time
I add these to my tank? Will the Poly Filter remove a significant amount of
trace elements from either of these two products?
<No. If regular water changes are carried out, you will replenish any lost
trace elements.>
I really don't care if it removes the magnesium, strontium, etc. All I
worry about being absorbed is the calcium and alkalinity.
<No worries here.>
How much, if any, will it remove from these two products?
<Would be negligible at best.>
One more question. My make-up water (for water change) only has 960 ppm of
Mg. I'm shooting for 1050. I've got Epsom salts and I'm wondering if I can
just add the powder directly to my make-up water after it's been aerated,
buffered, brought to correct spg and pH. If not, how should I do
this? Dilute in purified water and then add to make-up water? The tank's
magnesium level is at 915 ppm and would like this also to be 1050 since I
maintain calcium around 350 ppm. Am I going about this in the right manner?
<I would mix the Epsom salts in a separate container and add directly to
tank when needed. As for other additives, follow manufacturers
directions. James (Salty Dog)>
Take care, Greg
Water Change 3/17/07
Hi WetWeb Media,
<Hello>
I was wondering, can your water get a little cloudy even after it has cycled
and if so how long can it take to clear up? <Can but often a sign of too
much ammonia/nitrite, not a good thing.> I have been told it is just some
bacteria in the water that should clear up as the tank ages. <Yes, but check
your water parameters.> Jeff
(Thanks for your quick response on the last question)
<Sure>
<Chris>
Re: Cloudy Water 3/19/07
Hey it's Jeff again,
<Hello>
Thanks for your answer. But here's my next question, I have check the water and
Ammonia is at (0) Nitrite (0) and Nitrates are around 5.0 PPM. Do you think it
is just the tank needing to age a little bit. <Maybe, could it be small sand
particles?> Keep in mind I am not going to get any livestock until I know 100%
what the problem is. <Good> Is it possible it's just the bacteria settling in
the tank after the cycle. <The bacteria we are trying to culture does not live
in the water, only attached to surfaces.> Also the water is not exactly cloudy
it just looks like tiny little particles are floating around. <Sounds like it
might be blowing sand or something similar.> From the front it looks clear but
on the sides you can see the particles. I'm sure it's just going to take
patience it always does with aquariums. <Yep> Thank you again for the last few
answers! Jeff
<Anytime>
<Chris>
Alkalinity, calcium and pH 2/18/07
Hi Everyone,
I have a 72 gal FOWLR tank (with a 1" bed of live sand - aragonite) that is
almost 4 months old with 2 percula clowns, a six line wrasse, a yellow tang,
and a coral beauty angel. I have a regal tang in quarantine almost ready to
join the others. The fish are very happy and healthy, but I'm not!
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My problem is that my alkalinity has gotten too high (6.57 meq/l), my pH
hovers around 8.0 to 8.15, and my calcium level is 280ppm. I think I know
how this happened. In my quest to raise the ph, I added Proper pH 8.2
<Mmm, this product should only be used in freshwater settings>
to excess not realizing that it was cranking up the alkalinity. My question
is this: How do I correct this situation?
<Mmm, best with time going by, regular water changes... and leaving this
product out>
My plan is to do 10% water changes daily (or every other day - I routinely
do them weekly)
<Good... but I'd stick with the weekly... with pre-mixed/stored water... and
20-25%>
to gradually bring down the alkalinity using RO/DI water (with Instant Ocean
salt). This is where I get a little lost. What do I do to get pH and
calcium levels in order. My goal is pH = 8.3, calcium = 350-400 ppm, and
alkalinity = 3.5 meq/l. Are these proper values for a FOWLR system?
<Yes>
I'm trying to increase the coralline algae growth on my live rock. I need
a plan of attack - a recipe for success if you will. Hope you can help.
Thanks in advance. Mike.
<Thank you for writing so clearly, thoroughly... The water changes with the
Aquarium Systems salt mix, the stock, substrate you list... should "do
it"... in a few months time. Bob Fenner>
High dKH 2/1/07
Hello. I appreciate the time you folks take in answering all the questions
thrown at you. I have been spending hours on your website going through all
the data. My question is this: My alkalinity is at 20 dKH and my pH is at
8.3. If I lower my dKH to acceptable levels (8-12 dKH), will it lower my pH
below acceptable levels for a marine aquarium?
<Mmm, possibly... depending on the means utilized to lower, and the percentages
of what is involved in rendering the KH what it is...>
I believe my pH should still be stable and remain at 8.3 considering my dKH
is so high to begin with. Is this correct?
R/
Jeff
<Mmm... do you have a notion, input as to the nature of the high, too-high KH?
Is this from your "starting", tap water? If so, I would just blend in some
less-solute-laden source... like RO, DI, or RODI. Bob Fenner>
No loss of life, but phosphates and ammonia spiking even after water
change, HELP! - 1/22/07
Tank setup: 120 gal, 30 gal sump, overflow into sump, onto charcoal and
phosphate pad (phosphate pad also one in overflow because currently having a
brown algae bloom).
<Caused or allowed by... what?>
Pro clear aquatic skimmer in sump, water returns to tank via two lines on each
side of the tank. System has been set up since April 06. Various Rio pumps in
tank to give flow. Calcium is reading at 440, Last week ammonia .25, nitrate
5.0, nitrite 0, phosphate .5, PH OK. Ammonia, phosphate has elevated lately so
did 20% water change. 1 day after water change ammonia .5, nitrate between 5 and
10 ppm, no nitrites and phosphate is still .5. (aquarium pharmaceuticals test
kits). Ammonia and phosphate are still elevated after water change and using
phosphate pad. Using well water (no chlorine), does have trace of nitrate and
phosphate, but usually get small algae bloom and it works it’s way out as well
as when I vacuum.
Tank has about 100 lbs live rock and other rock put in at the time of setup. 1
yellow tang, 1 clown, 2 chromis, 1 mandarin, 1 dragon net, 1 coral beauty, 1 bi
color Pseudochromis, 4 blue leg crabs, 50 some odd snails (and lots of snail
eggs lately (Nassarius – I saw her at work),
<Heeee! Your employ is with gastropods?>
carpet xenia, yellow star, 5 other small colonies of polyps, and 1 flaming
scallop,
<...>
one very large (10” bristle worm I’ve been trying to catch, ½ dozen other
smaller bristles that I see). Now the skimmer – while I was doing water change,
figured I’d pull the skimmer and clean it too. First time I took apart the
skimmer and cleaned the inside of the pump – was working fine before I pulled
it. Was some brown gunk on magnet, not too bad, put it all back together. I lost
the seal from the pump feed to the reaction chamber so I siliconed it as I was
getting huge bubbles from skimmer and it was just foaming and pushing water out.
Also siliconed from the pump to the intake because I thought this may be another
possible place for air to leak in. Looking at the skimmer in action, don’t see
anything unusual. I also added an air restrictor on the end of the air intake.
This has helped reduce the amount of foaming, but the bubbles in the chamber are
much larger than before I took the skimmer apart and cleaned it.
<Something amiss here... likely with the air mix, or gunk in the injector area>
I’m opting to just get a new skimmer as it seems to be pulling extra air and
making huge bubbles and not really skimming, just making foam, although the air
restrictor has slowed this down considerably (never had to used it before).
Lately I have had a decent die back of large 1/2 inch amphipods in the tank I
had a LOT of them. Would this cause an elevation in the ammonia and phosphates?
<Actually... whatever caused their loss...>
I’ve also had to move my polyps up high as yes – the amphipods are munching on
them at night and they have died back some (not touching the carpet or star
corals). Will ammonia increase when something in the tank dies?
<Often so, yes>
Why didn’t the levels drop after the water change?
<Likely a root cause of trouble here IS the water... I would install, use RO for
your potable and pet-fish uses>
No loss of life yet, but not sure what to do now. Will test again tomorrow night
and can do another water change (crystal sea marine mix as always, water at
1.024), but what else
should I be looking for?
<An inexpensive RO device...>
I have been feeding daily frozen brine, 2 pellets for the crabs or they attack
my snails and every three days with Chromax. This last week I’ve cut feeding
back from once a day to every other while monitoring the water. I supplement
with iodine, coral Vite and strontium and molybdenum (Kent). I usually cut back
on these after water change because the water should have everything it needs
(usually wait two weeks before supplementing). I do a water change every 6 weeks
as it is such a huge undertaking for the size tank I have. Can you recommend a
good skimmer?
<Yes... posted on WWM... likely an Aqua-C product here>
If I’m having an issue with the one I have now, don’t want another one. It was
doing well until I pulled it apart to clean it, but it is less than a year old.
How long should a skimmer last anyway?
<Read my friend... a good skimmer is a once in a life-time purchase. Read. Bob
Fenner>
Re: Help water SW chemistry
Thanks for the help and reassurance. The tank is about a month old at this
point. I have been adding buffer with the calcium supplements so as not to have
further drops in pH.
<Mmm, through water changes... not directly to the system>
When it starts to get to 7.8 I worry about the shrimp and crabs.
<Endeavour to understand the reasons for the reductive behavior here...
countervailing strategies for buffering...>
I plan on more corals over the next few months as the tank matures further.
<Do take your time... research...>
I switched to the Kent reactor calcium supplement since it seems to be an all in
one and has no chloride (do you have an opinion about this product).
<I'd switch to SeaChem's superior line...>
So I guess I should stop adding buffer and just watch what the pH does?
<Mmm, no...>
Is there any bad effects from the very high Alk that I am currently running.
<Yes...>
I plan on a 25% water change this weekend so it should correct somewhat.
<I hope so...>
Oh one last thing what do you think of the remora C skimmer....
<Is a fine product>
being a Hex tank my space is limited.
Thanks again for all your help
Regards
Carlos David
<Have you read on WWM re calcium, alkalinity, pH? I would... Bob Fenner>
Salt Water Cloudiness in New Setup 1/19/07
Hello,
<Hi Steve>
I have a 75 gallon saltwater aquarium that I have had set up for 1 month. I
used a product that is supposed to cycle the tank overnight.
<Welcome! I hope that doesn't mean you added livestock too early...>
I am running a ProClear 150 wet/dry with protein skimmer, and have added 2
damsels that were fine so I added a puffer.
<Fine is a relative term, and damsels are notoriously tough when it comes to
water conditions. You (and your system) would be best served to have a full test
kit available here, with ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and Ph tests for starters so
you know for sure instead of gauging water quality by outward appearances of
your fishies.>
The brown algae started growing everywhere and I did a water change and now have
cloudy water, almost like the filter is not filtering due to the white cloudy
material shooting into the tank. Did I do a water change to soon?
<Could be air bubbles from the salt mix, or stirred up detritus from the sand
bed? I need more info. When were fish added in relation to the initial setup?
What do you use for source water, and how do you mix it? What are your current
test values?>
What to do?
<Buy a test kit or at least bring some water to be tested at your LFS.>
I have lost one damsel and the other I think will be gone in the morning due to
very rapid breathing. The puffer is still eating but not a lot of
movement. Any help would be grateful.
<Suggest some reading for you:
http://wetwebmedia.com/toxictk.htm
http://wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_3/cav3i2/marine_planning/marine_planning.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/estbiofiltmar.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marcyclefaqs.htm
Remember, some of this hobby seems very tedious. Lots of learning, and frantic
searching to fix the mistakes we *all* made/make, but it is all necessary to
become successful in the hobby. I would read the links above, and any blue links
that catch your eye on those pages.
-Graham T.>
Thanks,
Steve