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FAQs about Marine Snail Compatibility and Removal 2
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Tube Snail Problem 11/07/07 Hi, I have searched your site high
and low, asked every store in town and can¹t find anyone who has had
this problem, or any suggestions on how to resolve it. I narrowed
down what the creature is via a picture on your site. A tube dwelling
snail, permanent tube spiral base twisting out, with a creature that has
two little antennas and spews out web to catch debris in the water
column. <Ah yes, Vermetid snails.> The problem, over the last year
and a half this has turned into a nightmare due to them spawning. I
literally have thousands of them EVERY where. They are in the protein
skimmer, pumps, on my clam shell, conch shells, stacked on top of one
another covering every surface in the tank. <Yep, the tend to do that
sometimes.> This make cleaning the filter and tight areas so
unpleasant, <indeed!> I get cuts and scraps from every thing
being so sharp. They are close to impossible to remove, and are
multiplying at a discouraging rate. At this point I am so frustrated I
am either going to have to just shut the tank down, or strip it and
start from scratch. <Yikes! I know they're annoying, but they're not
worth taking a tank down for. In fact, in time, they'll likely start to
die away all by themselves. Their populations typically come in booms
and busts. Have you tried killing them with vinegar?> Is there
anything I can do? Wrasses, or some other invert carnivore maybe?
Starve them of whatever is making them thrive? <Starving the tank
will hurt your other animals just as much. Is this a reef tank? If not
(if its fish only), keeping the calcium on the lower end of acceptable
*might* help. I'd try squirting them with vinegar or lime juice (in
minute quantities) first...> I am at a loss, PLEASE HELP :( <Good
luck, keep us updated.> Timothy Robitaille <Best, Sara M.>
Re: Small Snails, New Additions 7/28/07 Thanks for the quick
reply ! <Welcome> The snails are not doing any harm but they
are growing in numbers every day. I counted about 50 tonight.
They spend a great deal of time on the glass but now are starting to
spend more time on the rocks. <They are completely normal and
helpful scavengers, I suspect the population will drop on it's own
before long.> Any thoughts at all on how to get rid of these?
<Time, limiting available food.> I know I could crush them against
the glass and let them become food but I try to keep my hands out of
the tank as much as possible. <Good> Speaking of hands out of
the tank... I am unable to find a lot of information about refugiums
on WWM. <<Chris! RMF>> I have a ProClear Pro 150 Wet Dry and
would like to figure out how I could add a refugium. Why? <Why not?>
Well despite being better for the inhabitants I really want to get a
Mandarin and I would not even attempt it without a refugium. <Good>
I did some reading and looking and the way I see it is with my
system I would remove the bio balls in the center compartment and
replace with sand/mud and add live algae plants. There would have to
be lighting and I have a 24" Coralife Aqualight that I could mount
under the stand. Would the 65 W light be too much ? Too little?
<Should be fine.> I also understand it should be on a reverse cycle
from my main tank. <Does not have to be, but helps with pH swings.>
I looked at Indo Pacific Sea Farms and saw they had some starter
kits but of course I don't want to order all that if I am totally
out of whack on how I should set this up with the ProClear. <Seems
fine.> Or for that matter if I even can set it up with the system I
have. <Seems like you have a workable plan.> Any advice would be
great! My fish would be happy and if I am thinking correctly I can
give the army of snails a new home in the sump. <Yep, but don't
expect them to stay in the sump.> Thanks Again SO Much ! PS -
Am going to include a few pictures of the snails for possible
identification. <Got them, nice.> <Chris> | 
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Hebrew Cone (Conus ebraeus), Poisonous? Yes! Degree of toxicity... ?
5/13/07 Hello crew, <Hi Jana, Mich here.> I am trying to
find on the Internet how poisonous the Conus ebraeus is? <Well it
does kill it's prey, primarily Eunicid and Nereid Polychaete worms, by
injecting them with conotoxin, a potent neurotoxin that disturbs the ion
channels involved in neuromuscular transmission, typically resulting in
paralysis.> I found information on other cone shells but
not on this particular one. <Yes, I too am having difficulty finding
anything specific to this particular species. There are more than 600
members of the Conidae family and only 30 documented cases of
envenomations by Conus in humans, some resulting in death. The most
toxic is reported to be Conus geographus, though C textile, and C
marmoreus are also associated with an increased of mortality. I have
been unable to find any reports describing the degree of toxicity of the
conotoxin associated with C. ebraeus, but it is certainly something to
take seriously and the effect of the conotoxin would likely vary between
individuals. Also worth noting is current research on members of this
family for the treatment of pain and conditions such as Parkinson's.>
Is it found in Australia and how poisonous is it. <The distribution
of Conus ebraeus occurs in the Indo-west Pacific and Eastern Australia
as far south as Sydney. Many thanks, kind regards, Jana. <You're
welcome. Mich> Snail murder, SW Hermit comp. 3/23/07
Hello! I have another question for you guys. I have a new 20 gallon tank
with just 10 snails and 4 hermit crabs. Recently, I was watching my tank
and I noticed something very strange. My hermit crab had basically
killed my snail and it was eating the snail out of its shell. <Not
strange at all actually> I was wondering if you could tell me
whether or not this is normal behaviour, and if I should remove the
empty shell from my tank. Thank you! <Is normal... or at least not
atypical. These "false crabs" as a general group (some are more
herbivorous) are opportunistic omnivores. I would leave the shell put...
may become another Hermit home. Bob Fenner>
Invert Ids: Cowry (Cypraea vitellus) and a Flatworm (Amphiscolops
sp.) 3/21/07 WWM crew, <Hi Stephen, Mich here.> I
wanted to see if I could get an ID one the attached photos. First
is what I think is a Cypraea vitellus. Is this correct? <I
would agree with your identification.> What is your experience
with this species in a mixed reef? <Nothing specific to this
species. Generally cowry snails grow too large and cumbersome for
most reef systems. Several are carnivorous, some are herbivorous
and for many their diets are not well understood. Probably not the
most suitable choice for your reef.> Second is an unknown
invert I saw in my refugium. Is about 3-4mm in size, translucent as
seen in photo and used a rhythmic motion for propulsion along the
front glass. First one I have seen and have not added anything new
to the tank in 4 or 5 months. What is your advice of this living in
the fuge? <Is a harmless Acoel, Amphiscolops sp. Please see
here for a nearly identical picture:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/flatworms.htm > Thank you
<Welcome!> and best regards, <And to you, Mich> Stephen |
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Predatory Nassarius or Just Hungry? - 3/12/07 Hello Bob,
<Hey Brian, this is Adam again.> I have yet another question for
you! Have you ever heard of Nassarius Snails attacking Fan worms?
<As I'm sure you know Nassarius snail rarely attack living tissue, they
usually ignore even microfauna life for the most part. If you see a
Nassarius consuming a larger animal it is because the animal is dead or
dying. The instances where I have heard of Nassarius attacking living
organisms usually involved captive systems where they are not getting
enough food.> The strangest thing happened in my 90 gallon reef the
other day and I have yet to think of anything except the snails are just
REALLY hungry and have become quite desperate. <A possibility.>
I don't know if you remember, but my 90 gallon reef had come down with
"Ich" a couple weeks ago ( I know not putting my animals in quarantine
first was really dumb, not doing that again) <Well at least you
have learned.> and I had removed all fish to quarantine to let the
tank run fallow for 4 weeks. So far things are GREAT! My fish all look
so much better, my coral beauty whose eyes had become clouded, with a
slimy spotted body is now bright beautiful and healthy as a horse so to
speak. <Sounds good.> The reef itself is doing really well, all
the corals in the tank are opened wide and "perky" the clams are
doing wonderful, the cleaner shrimp are going through withdrawals,
there has been a little filamentous algae starting up now that the tang
and coral beauty aren't pigging out 24 / 7, and my
Nassarius snails must be getting very hungry now that I
am not feeding a tank full of fish. <Mmm...I would add some more
food to the tank, at least two, three times a week until the fish are
back. Just after dark, some Mysis or krill maybe.> I noticed a
Nassarius snail climbing a fan worm then proceeding to stick his little
mouth down into the tube he started biting the head of this worm, 3
others saw him doing this and joined the "frenzy" all beating on this
poor worm until it popped its top so to speak (it ejected its crown)
then the snails fooled around with that for a bit and re-buried. 2 days
later I saw the same snail going after another worm! Needless to
say he is no longer in the tank and since then we have had no further
attacks. Could this just be a reaction to having less food, <That or
a rogue, the former is more likely.> will he be ok to put back in
the tank when the fish go back, or should I pass on that option? <If
you think the problem is isolated to one snail, then why risk it?>
There are 7 Nassarius snails in this tank, I got them to eat food that
had passed by the fishes radar and wedged under rocks and shells to
reduce the chances of rotting material raising nutrient levels in the
tank. Once the tank is where I want it to be I'd love to send you a
photo of it sort of as a thanks for all of your help! <We'd love to
have more material for POTD purposes.> Thanks bob! <Will pass
along to him Brian.> <<Please do send along images for all's use,
enjoyment. BobF>> Brian <Adam J.> Overstocking, Hermit
Crab eating snails – 2/26/07 <Hi Tracy, Brenda Here tonight.>
Thank you for your great articles. <Your welcome.> We have a 33
gallon tank that is about 1yr running now. We started with live sand and
began adding live rock and snails 1 month later. After 6 months we were
up to 70 lbs live rock, 3 turbo snails 15 blue leg hermits <You have
too many crabs. I recommend one per 10 gallon or less.> 6 Margarite
snails, 1 sally light foot 1 cleaner shrimp, lots of little feather
dusters on live rock, I have seen some bristle worms too, 1 blenny, 2
tiny maroon clowns and a yellow tang, 1 very small anemone its white and
about 1/4 of an inch big. <1/4” anemone? Pest anemone? Your tank
is much too small for a tang.> There is coralline growing and we
have star polyps. All was well for a few months then the tang died.
We checked the water (prior to this we change 10% every 2 wks) and did a
50% change the ph was 8.2 and nitrate 10 Two days later we did another
water change. The salinity is kept at 1.023. The place where we get our
supplies checks the other levels for us and said they were good.
<Nitrates at 10 is not good, need to be zero. I suggest purchasing your
own test kits and learning to test all of your water parameters. What
will you do at midnight when you need to know your water parameters?>
After the tang died the tank became over run with red slime algae and
green hair algae. <Have you checked for phosphates?> We were
able to combat the red algae but the green was unreal. We had to remove
the fish to a holding tank and clean the algae of the live rock you
couldn't see any live rock the algae was so bad. We scrubbed off the
algae under RO water. Everything seemed nice and clean we tested the
water, the store said all looked good the nitrate still at 10 though.
<The LFS is not doing you any favors by telling you that your water is
good when nitrates are above zero.> We put the fish back in and
purchased a zebra turbo snail and 5 Nassarius snails and a conch snail
and a peppermint cleaner shrimp. That was about 1 month ago 1 week ago
we got a pink tipped anemone for the clowns who have out grown the
little tiny one (sorry don't know what kind it is) the pink tipped
hasn't quite settled yet still on the move some how I think it is
running away from the clown that wont leave it for a second it actually
lies down on its side wrapped in the tentacles of the anemone.
<Buying any tank mate and not knowing the species is a bad idea. Your
salinity is too low for an anemone. It should be 1.026. You have two
anemones, and I have no idea what kind. You won’t be able to
successfully keep two species of anemones in a 33 gallon tank. A 33
gallon tank is border line for even one anemone, unless you are
experienced with keeping anemones. Your tank is overstocked, and I
believe you will continue to have problems. The anemone has not settled
because it is unhappy with its environment.> Now 3 snails are dead,
one of the hermit crabs is now very huge could he be eating them?
<You bet it can!> He moved into a very large shell and looks to be
about 2 1/2 inch by 1 inch big. Do you think the anemone has something
to do with it? <Nope!> Thank you Tracy <You’re
Welcome. Please research all of your livestock and learn their
requirements and compatibility with others before you buy. Good luck
with your tank. Brenda>
Snails Preying on Baby
Shrimp? ...Unlikely - 02/09/2007 Hello all, <Hi there
Arman! Mich here.> I recently moved some Chaetomorpha from my main
tank into my refugium (hang-on-back type). Much to my surprise, it
contained many microscopic cleaner shrimp (Lysmata amboinensis) larvae.
<Mmm, more likely you are seeing tiny Mysis shrimp.> I've been
feeding the larvae marine snow, phytoplankton, and a few Spirulina
flakes. <Mmm, careful not to overfeed, these can be very polluting,
and not essential for these shrimp.> Last night I placed some
Nassarius snails into the refugium and in the morning, the amount of
shrimp has been greatly reduced. <Likely unrelated.> I know this
species, like many snails, are scavengers, but wouldn't the shrimp be
able to swim away from them? <Yes.> Is it possible they've
eating my babies?! <Unlikely.> Great website by the way, keep up
the great work. <Thanks, will try.> regards, <And to
you. -Mich> Arman
Predatory Mollusk? 1/21/07 Good Morning Crew - Last night
I came home and my Flame Angel didn't come out for his night time
feeding in my 75 gallon reef tank. <Unusual...> He's had no
signs of disease or lack of health and the tank parameters have been
steady at 0 ammonia, 0 Nitrites, <5 ppm Nitrate, Calcium 420, 8.3
ph, 1.023 SG. There are no other fish or Invertebrates that have/are
showing signs of sickness in the tank. Although a couple months ago
while we were off diving in Turks and Caicos my 3" Kole Tang
disappeared w/o a trace. <...?> I ripped the entire tank
apart upon my return and didn't find any remnants aside from a
slight algae bloom that I was expecting anyway as my vacation fish
helpers like to over feed my tanks, hence them being instructed to
feed every other day... Also there was no obvious predator present
as the Tang and the Flame were the 2 largest fish and nothing in the
tank was looking worse for the wear. So back to the present,
unfortunately I had prior engagements last night and wasn't able to
go hunting for the flame angel until this morning. While pulling
apart the live rock this morning I found my angel being eaten by the
mollusk I've attached a couple pictures of. I've searched the site
and haven't found whether or not this mollusk is my killer or just
an opportune scavenger. <Mmm, the latter...> I
mangled/killed him while removing him from the live rock (hence the
damage in the photos). It has a shell inside of all the fleshy
tissue and is roughly an 1" long. So I guess after that long winded
background on my issue, my questions are... what type of mollusk did
I have? <Perhaps a Cypraeid... maybe a Limpet of some sort>
and was this most likely my killer? <Mmm, no... maybe the
angel got "stuck" somehow... perished, was then consumed> Or do
I need to look further for a mantis or other predator as I'm 99.9%
sure my angel was healthy and happy Thursday night. <It would be
worth baiting, seeking such a possible predator> The live rock
is all Tongan if that helps w/ IDing the hitchhiker. Although I am
unsure of the origin of all the rocks that came w/ mushroom and
polyp corals attached. Thanks for your time and help. Andy
PS... I'm not a very good photographer, so hopefully these pics
aren't too lousy to id w/ :-( And as I said before, I did damage it
prying it out of the live rock. <Please read on WWM re Mantis,
Crab, Alpheid detection, removal. Bob Fenner> |
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Unknown Cowry ID Egg cowry (Ovula ovum) inappropriate. for captive care,
diet=Sarcophyton 1/5/07 Hello, <Hi Brett, Mich here
today.> I have a question regarding potential harm from cowries in
the aquarium. I have a young nano tank that has two tiny snails, a
feather, two tiny blue legged hermits and two small pieces of zoo coral,
along with some live rock and sand. I also have plans for a bit more
soft coral. There is a cowry amongst the grouping, which I was told is a
"Burmese Green" or "Green Burmese" Cowry, but have been unable to find
any information on this species. <This is an Egg cowry (Ovula
ovum). It is most definitely not appropriate for your system. It is a
predatory animal who's diet consists primarily of Sarcophytons
Alcyoniids, leather corals. It shouldn't be kept in captivity. The
only exception being someone is over run with leather corals and is
trying to get rid of them, but I can't imagine feeding the leathers to a
cowry would be the first choice of many aquarists.> From my
research I have found that some cowries can be harmful to your live rock
and soft corals, as well as other invertebrates, while others can
be fairly benign. <This is true.> I have included an image of
said cowry for your judgment. The shell is white with 3 rather faint
greening band on the back (they are not very noticeable in the image.
The mantle is black and white, somewhat zebra-like, and usually extends
to cover almost the entire shell. "he" has been burrowing in the sand
for most of the time, also spending a good bit of time cruising the live
rock and the glass. I want to make certain that this will be an okay
tank companion, but if this is a potentially troublesome species I know
of someone who could adopt it into a more suitable environment.
<Unfortunately, it may be difficult to find an appropriate home for this
animal. Please inform any prospective care givers of this animals'
nutritional requirements.> Thank you for any information you may
be able to supply. <Welcome, -Mich> Sincerely, Brett Amey | 
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Snail comp., relating, Mushroom malady? 12/6/06 Hi
Crew, <Hello, Mich here.> 10 gallon with some fish and
mushrooms plus critters. Every once and a while I take a flashlight to
see what's going on when the lights are out and I always find it
fascinating. Usually I just see the threads of the spaghetti worm but
last night it was out in full view with a whole web of red strands
spread out over the rock. <Cool!> And I found some new snails (4
that I saw) that I did not buy and I have not added much in the past few
months except for some small (2 inch ) rocks with mushrooms. <Many
snails are fine, but be aware there are some snails that are not reef
safe. Google WWM if you have questions.> The snails are
small with the largest about half the size of a dime. They are like a
dime standing on edge with a very visible spiral which is beautifully
colored in bands of red and black with white background. Each band has a
repeating design in it. It is amazing that something so small has such
intricate designs. <The world is a fascinating place. You just have
to stop to notice it.> One was on the glass and the others on the
rock. I am surprised that I have not seen them till now. I have another
small snail that I got with live sand. These are white and Cerith shaped
but were so small that it would take 4 to equal on grain of rice. I
have lots of them and they are now about double in size but I do not see
any smaller ones so I guess they will not reproduce. They are over a
year old and are on the glass and rocks but only at night. I did have a
strange episode in that I lost about 8 small (smaller than a dime)
mushrooms that were all produced from the same parent. This happened
over a two week period and I was unable to determine the cause.
<As if often the case.> The parent is fine as well as other
mushrooms in the tank including some that are small. But this group
which was spread out over the tank just dissolved except for two
that bleached and are still hanging in. <Sorry for your loss.>
Keep up the good work. <Thank you, we'll try!-Mich>
Halichoeres melanurus and Pyramidellid snails 11/15/06
Hello crew, <Brandon> I have recently noticed that there are
many Pyramidellid looking snails attached to the bottoms of my
Astrea snails. <Sure looks like it> I've been thinking of
getting a clam once I decide on type and find one I am content with
but this is an obvious setback in the plan. <Oh yes> I saw
where a Halichoeres melanurus (Hoeven's wrasse) was recommended to
consume these pests but have looked at some sites that say it is not
a reef safe fish. <Is toward that end of the scale... I'd
say/state "largely reef-safe"... how 'bout that?> What is your
experience with the fish in the reef setting? There's also a picture
attached that I took a few minutes ago. Thank you and have an
excellent day. Brandon <The smaller Halichoeres species
(there's a bunch!) are relatively peaceful, non-injurious to
cnidarians, other sessile invertebrates too small to be eaten whole.
Bob Fenner> | 
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Puddingwife Wrasse...Snail/crab compatibility 9-19-06
What up WWM Crew? < A preposition for a direction. Just kidding,
howdy! > I've put a deposit down on a juvenile Puddingwife Wrasse so
that I could do some more research on them...he was cool
looking/interesting in the store. < Beautiful fish. Research ids
always good, I could use some myself! > I've found that he will one
day be too big for my aquarium, but am willing to deal with that problem
when it arrives. < Spoken like a good foster parent. > I've read
that they eat mollusks/sea urchins in the wild...that being kind of a
broad statement, do you think that my snails and hermit crabs will be in
danger from this guy? < Oh, yes. One of their favorite things to do
is to pick up the snails/hermit crabs, and beat them on the rocks until
the good stuff comes out. Horribly entertaining, but very taxing on your
clean-up crew. > Also, are these fish generally wild caught or farm
raised? Just curious. < Wild caught, but captive breeding is being
worked on daily. > Thanks again, Brad < Good luck! RichardB
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