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FAQs about Tobies, Sharpnose Puffers Behavior
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Care and Information
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Puffers in General,
Puffer Identification, Puffer
Compatibility,
Puffer Selection, Puffer Behavior,
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Canthigaster solandri. N. Sulawesi pix.
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Valentini puffer, beh., sys.
10/17/09
Hi Crew,
<Nat>
I have a query about my valentini puffer; I have checked out lots and
lots of your pages and FAQs and haven't been able to find the answer.
Hopefully you can help or shed some light on this issue.
We have a 35 gallon tank with live rock, coral (Zoanthus),
<Mmmm>
xenias, 2 percula clowns, 1 purple Dottyback, 1 watchman goby, a cleaner
shrimp (hanging in there but with seriously manicured antennae) and our
little valentini puffer.
<"that little nipper..."
We've had him about 6 months now.
I checked the parameters last night and everything seemed to be ok-ish,
nitrate is fine, nitrite 0.1, phosphate 0, pH between 8.1 and 8.3 and
ammonia ok.
The issue is that for the last week or so the puffer has been attacking
his reflection in the glass really often,
<Not atypical behavior>
approximately 10/15 times a day. This is a definite increase in his
usual amount of attacking. I don't know if this is normal behaviour or
not but he seems really aggressive and persistent,
<Is normal... I would coat the side panel with dark paper...>
and afterwards he seems really tired with rapid breathing. I am worried
that he may injure himself. He usually attacks his reflection in the
front glass panel and not really the sides.
Could this be a developmental thing? Moving from being a juvenile to an
adult?
<Yes; much more so with age>
He is eating fine and otherwise exhibits normal puffer behaviour. We
usually feed him defrosted mysis shrimp and krill soaked in Lipovit.
Any advice and guidance would be much appreciated.
Thanks for all you help in the past.
Natalie
<This fish, all Canthigaster species do better in larger (volume)
settings.
Bob Fenner>
New Canthigaster Leoparda/Leopardus 8/1/09
Good morning crew,
<And you Greg>
Like most readers of your forums/library, I utilize your site as my
premier encyclopedia for all things marine.
<Glad to share>
I recently purchased a Leopard Toby Puffer (Canthigaster leoparda), as I
have a 34 gallon reef tank (a Solana, AIO, if you're familiar) and this
is the smallest puffer I could get my hands on (I know these fish may
eat inverts, but it's a risk I'm willing to take. There isn't much
literature about this species, so I thought it had a better shot than
most tobys to fare well in my reef, with its diminutive size and smaller
mouth hopefully deterring it from eating too many critters). It is
merely an inch long now, and I expect it double in size one day. Upon
acclimation 2 days ago, the little guy seemed to be in shock, lying on
its side for a couple hours).
<Happens>
It regained balance (maybe ammonia poisoning or something, there was a
ridiculous amount of poop in the bag for such a small guy - clearly a
testament to the large bioload of these puffers) and then moved to the
corner of the tank that is out of direct light and low in current. I
understand that these puffers are found deeper in the ocean, and my
thoughts are that mine may be adjusting to the lighting (250 watt MH) as
it is hiding either in the corner or behind the liverock.
<And Tobies are shy, retiring by nature, particularly when new>
This fish is the last addition to the tank and most aggressive, with a
pair of very feisty Jans' pipefish (voracious eaters of frozen mysis and
other meaty offerings), a pair of black ocellaris clowns, and a high
finned goby. Is it common for these tobys to be very shy upon arrival,
or should I be alarmed?
<The former>
The leopard Toby is eating twice a day - I've fed him PE mysis (largest
and most nutritious, from what I gather)
<Ah yes... and friend Nuri Fisher of PE and co. is on hand here at IMAC
West currently...>
and enriched brine. I was just expecting a much more aggressive or
active fish and though it's too soon to tell his personality, want to
make sure this is a normal part of the acclimation process.
By the way, I will eventually be taking a photo and submitting to you,
as you do not have one in your Toby puffer faq.
Greg Sarkissian
<Thank you, Bob Fenner>
Valentini Puffer introduction... hlth., beh. 1/5/08
Hi guys <Wil> I just bought a new valentini puffer.. and I picked
it up yesterday... I did the usual leave the bag in the tank.. put
some tank water in the bag... (did not quarantine). <You'll learn>
It was swimming a bit yesterday but has mostly stayed on the ground.
<Not atypical behavior> This morning I found it on the ground of the
tank not moving. I poked it and it moved but would not swim.. it looked
like it would hop and that's about it. Is it sleeping? And when it stays
on the ground, it looks like he's breathing heavily. <... could be
trouble> am worried that it is struggling to get used to the new tank
conditions. <What were "the old tank conditions?"> Tank
conditions: SG 1.023-1.025, Ammonia = 0 Nitrite = 0... How long does
it take for Valentinis to acclimate to its new surroundings, is it
common that they stay on the bottom for long periods of time.?
<Usually w/in a day or two...> What can I do to make the
acclimatisation smoother? Thanks guys. <At this point? Not
much... keep an eye on this fish... read re its care... Maybe on WWM!
Bob Fenner>
Valentini Puffer Personality Question 8/23/07 Good
Day Crew, <Hi Eric, Pufferpunk here> I am interested in a
Valentini puffer and have been doing extensive research on this site, as
well as The Puffer Forum, Liveaquaria.com and some others. I know most
everything I can think of, in terms of care, adequate setup, companions,
water quality, temperament, food, etc, etc. I do have one remaining
question. <OK> One reason I like puffers so much is their
intelligence and "dog like personality"... as stated on this and other
sites. <Me too, exactly!> I know that varieties of the Dog Face,
Spiny Box, Porcupine, others normally develop a "personality" - meaning
they almost "beg" for food, respond to your proximity and some have
even been "trained" to respond to non-verbal clues so they don't eat
food meant for the eel. (Interesting point, did read on this website,
don't remember exact article). <Not sure I believe that one.> My
problem is that I'd LOVE a puffer like the ones mentioned above, however
my tank is much too small. (55 ga, 48 inches long) For this, I would
like a Valentini but have not found anything in regard to their
personality ( I know they're aggressive) -- meaning normally do these
puffers exhibit similar behavior/intelligence/begging/etc. as the
previously mentioned puffers? <Yes, yes & yes! All those things in a
cute little package. I have recently purchased one. It is in the tank
behind me & I always catch it looking at me over my shoulder, while I'm
working on the computer (when it's not looking for food). There is a
gal, Bonnie, at The Puffer Forum, that suggested the Valentini over
other sharp-nosed puffers, when I asked her about which one to get. She
said personality-wise, that species would be the best choice. I sure
like my lil fella! So far, he's left all the crabs & snails alone (each
puffer may be different though). He is very curious & never touched any
of the corals I have in there. I've got several kinds of leathers,
zoanthids, frogspawn, hammer, mushrooms, tube anemone & plate coral. He
also lives with a couple of damselfish. Good luck with your puffer! ~PP>
Thanks for all the help! Great site, Eric
Valentini Puffer 8/23/06 Hello, <Hello> I
have a Valentini puffer in my 125 gal community / live rock tank. He has
been my 'anchor' resident for over eight years (2 false Perculas and a
Royal Gramma have been with me for nearly eight years and a number of
other critters for about two - four years.) He has been a great host and
hasn't nipped fins, but does occasionally eat my frequently replenished
snail stock (he's definitely a male Valentini). <Mmmm> He
still looks healthy as a horse. How long should I expect him to be
around? Any ideas on the life span of the Royal Gramma or False
Perc's? Thanks, Craig Martin <If memory serves, all three of
these species have been known to approach twenty years in captivity.
Good on ya. Bob Fenner>
Valentini Puffer & Talbot's Damsel 9/27/05 Hi! <Hi
There!> I have a Valentini Puffer. We've had him (or her) for about
2 weeks. He lives in a 90L (Sorry I'm from Australia!! I have no idea
what it is in gallons... maybe near 30 - 40g??) The tank is @ 24 degrees
Celsius (again no idea ... actually wait I converted it online and its
75.2F) The ammonia levels are a little high (but we're doing water
changes every 3 - 4 days to correct it and it’s lowering pretty well) We
take the water for a weekly water check at the LFS and they told us the
water is great. (Better than theirs), except the carbonate hardiness is
too low, so we are using Coral Success to fix this up). <The ammonia
should be zero, so a little high would not be considered great water
quality. I would like to see daily water changes until the ammonia is
0.> He is kept with a Pajama Cardinal, Ocellaris Clown, Banded
Damsel, Domino Damsel, Green Chromis and 2 Talbot Damsels. He's very
peaceful and just seems to pick at the rocks very often, no worry to me,
I don't mind him doing it. We feed him a multi-vitamin frozen food and
sometimes frozen brine. He also gets fed live brine. <He needs a
variety of meaty seafood as well as some greens.> I have read your
Puffer dentistry article and could not see anything specific about
Valentini Puffer teeth. I have printed out your General Puffer info but
I haven't read it yet. (I will after writing this but its 17 pages
long!!) I was wondering how am I supposed to know when his teeth get too
big? <It would be preferable to prevent his teeth from over growing
by feeding him some seafood in the shell so he can keep them in check
himself.> I read your other responses about Puffers and couldn't see
anything specific to the Canthigaster Valentini. <The information
should be similar and applicable to your puffer.> Also I read that
some people are concerned about the size of their puffers stomach.
<Their bellies do have quite a capacity for expansion, which can be
witnessed after a good meal.> My puffer has got a bit of a big
tummy, but since we've had him he's only puffed up once and eats all day
long. <Most of them do like to eat.> (The tank has only been set
up with fish for about 4-6 weeks) How will I know if its a fat stomach
or an air filled stomach? <If he has taken air into his stomach you
may notice the pocket of air as a bulge and his orientation in the water
will be off, in other words he most likely will be off balance and have
difficulty remaining in his normal swimming position. The area
containing the air will be directed towards the surface and he may
possibly even be floating near the surface if there is a good amount of
air trapped. This is often referred to as positive buoyancy.> Also
he's very hard to catch and the tank has a lot of live rock and
coral that all the fishes have hiding-holes and caves to jump in as soon
as my hand goes in the tank. So I can't really grab him to touch his
stomach, (like you've told others to do) how else would I know? And
wouldn't it hurt him if I were to press on his stomach? <This is
really not necessary unless you suspect that there is a problem. It is
preferable to keep your hands out of the tank and off the fish. Every
time you touch your fish you disturb their slime coat which serves a
protective function for the skin.> My puffer is so beautiful and
loves to make faces at the glass and run up and down to show off to me.
<Yes they are very pretty and have quite endearing personalities. I
find them irresistible to say the least. Puffers are one of my
favorites.> Thanks for all the great info, I've learned a lot
about him, just by reading some Q&A's on your site. <That’s great
keep up the reading. Educating yourself is one of the best things you
can do for your fish!> Also I have 2 Talbot Damsels in the tank,
they are pretty aggressive towards all the other fish (except the Pajama
Cardinal and Valentini puffer, I think because they're bigger than the
Talbot's) <Very possibly. I am not familiar with that particular
Damsel species but the family as a whole is fairly aggressive. The PJ
Cardinalfish should really be kept in a peaceful community tank. The
Damsels and Puffer are really not appropriate tankmates. Please do keep
a close eye on these fish for any signs of harassing the Cardinalfish.>
If I took one of them out (if I can catch them) would this fix the
problem? <No I don’t think so.> My LFS said that if I keep my
tank around 34C (75F) then it will stop them being so aggressive because
it will keep their metabolism low, making them less hungry. Is this
true? <In theory I guess it is a possibility but my best guess is
that it would not work to your advantage. If it were my tank and fish I
would not want to wait to find out. I would remove the aggressors as
soon as possible. The fish that are being harassed are at risk for an
injury and are definitely being stressed. Stress is a precursor to
disease. Elevated ammonia levels are also stressful. Add the stress of
being harassed to the increased ammonia levels and you have a recipe for
sick fish. Please do consider removing the Talbot Damsels as well as
doing more frequent water changes. > Thanks for your help.
Sincerely, Sarah <You’re most welcome! Best of luck with your fish.
HTH, Leslie>
Valentini Puffer 11/17/05
Hi! I have a Valentini puffer (saddle back), I previously wrote (in
about end of Sept) to get some info and you guys were great! thanks.
I have a curved glass aquarium (the front corners are curved, and have
no joint, so that the only joining of glass is at the back of the tank,
where there are just normal right angle corners... I hope that makes
sense?) <Yep> Anyway my puffer is a bit of show off and she likes
to run up and down and up and down and up and down (for ages, sometimes
15 - 20 min.s, for about 3 or 4 times a day) the curved corners. I don't
know if she can see a reflection of herself or something like that,
<Or you... associated with food/feeding...> but I was wondering if
its healthy for her to be swimming up and down the curved corners?
<No worries> and if its not what can I do about it? <Zip> And
even if it is healthy Its kinda annoying. So how can I stop it.
<<This is not a domesticated animal whose behavior you can modify at
will. MH>> Just FYI, he's very healthy otherwise (he is
about 9 months old) and the tank is very stable. We have 7 other fish
(in a 90 litre tank) 3 x Green Chromis, a domino damsel, a ocellaris
clown, a pajama cardinal and a sand sifter, all of whom are relatively
healthy and generally not aggressive. We feed them once a day,
frozen green marine food (vitamin stuff) and generally the tank is in
good order. <Sounds good> Also we have two (2 - 3cm's- around 1
inch) unwanted crabs. they came with the live rocks. Any ideas of how to
get rid of them? <Could be baited, trapped out:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/swcrabcomp.htm> Thanks for your help.
Sincerely, Sarah <Welcome. Bob Fenner> My little fishy
(puffers) I call him (or her) Baby. Baby is a Valentini and only
about one inch long. Baby is new to the tank and only has to deal
with a Figure 8 Puffer. I am wondering about Baby's strange behavior.
Baby pulls her/his tail close to the body and starts going in circles
and darting about. Is this a defense mechanism? <Hmm, maybe...
have only seen and heard of this about Tobies, Sharpnose puffers
(subfamily Canthigastrinae) a few times.> Are they also unusually
shy? The figure 8 (Fishhead is his name) is not much bigger but was
there first. This is my first tank, first puffers, and I am having a
great time. It is in my office and everyone comes to visit Fishhead
and Baby. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Linda <Good names,
good owner. Bob Fenner> Puffer question Hello! <Hi!
Ananda here today...> I am new to the hobby and just got a 125g
saltwater tank. Please excuse me in advance if I am listing too much
info! <Too much info? Truthfully, more is better.> The setup has
fish, live rock and live sand. Wet/dry system w/ protein skimmer. There
were 9 assorted fishes (yellow tang, a large Emp angel, yellow cow,
powder blue tang, 3 blue damsels, a percula clown, and a semi-large
maroon/gold clown) that came with the tank, all of which I had
quarantined at my LFS until my tank was ready. All of the fish get
along great and have been together for at least a year. <Oh, my, that
is a volatile mix. The cowfish will get huge. Do research their special
needs. The maroon clown is likely to get mean and harm the percula clown
-- you've got the most aggressive clown (the maroon) in with one of the
least aggressive clowns, and that's a recipe for clown wars, which the
percula is likely to lose. I'd get the perc into a different tank.> I
decided to pick up an additional fish at the store which I thought was
so cool- a rather small Hawaiian blue puffer. <Canthigaster jactator,
presumably.> I had seen it in the store for at least 2 weeks and it
looked rather healthy w/ no signs of problems; it was isolated in a
small tank of its own. <Watching it for a while is a good idea.>
The LFS is a very well run/maintained, clean store. I decided to drop
all the fish in my tank simultaneously (after acclimating them) and they
all immediately were in heaven (my 9 were in a 20g QT at the store, so
I'm sure they were happy to be back in their 125). No signs of stress-
all 10 immediately swimming about and eating well. <Yikes on several
fronts: the 20g QT, dropping all the fish in at once (which could lead
to a massive ammonia spike!), and adding the puffer along with
everything else without QTing it at home first -- and not having a QT
tank yourself! I'm amazed every fish is okay so far.> Later that
evening, I couldn't find the puffer anywhere- turns out it went
underneath a live rock and mounted itself upside down, belly flush rock
AND changed colors (maybe shape too?) to blend in perfectly w/ the rock.
It was like that again this morning only this time on top of a rock. It
eventually woke up and started swimming about and eating this morning-
colors are back to normal. <Surely, it was significantly stressed by
the introduction.> I couldn't find any listing of this "camouflage"
characteristic listed anywhere about this fish. I didn't know if this
was normal (if it is, how cool!), or if it is sick? <I don't have
experience with this species, but I have known puffers to change color
to blend in with their surroundings and darken when stressed.> I also
noticed a small blotch this morning which looked like sand or salt on
one side of it, but it seemed to be gone an hour later, so I'm assuming
that it was substrate. <Maybe. Keep an eye on it.> Anyway,
appreciate any 411 you can give me on my new fish! <Start with the
WWM site and info about puffers, and with Fishbase, at
http://www.fishbase.org > Thanks! Sincerely, Michael Becker
<You're quite welcome. --Ananda> Puffers sleeping nose-up!
(02/23/04) Dear Ananda, <Hi!> Hello, I was frequenting your
Sharpnose puffer FAQs and came across the attached question from
Elizabeth Mackie, and would like to contribute some info. <I'm
including a snip from the post you've mentioned: "...at night when he
"sleeps," he hangs vertically (nose-up) at the very top of one of the
corners of the tank. I have never seen a fish do that before." > I
have a Canthigaster compressa Sharpnose puffer, and he WILL sleep in the
vertical position if there is light bothering him. <Ah! Good to
know!> Sometimes he will go up in the corner vertically and sleep,
but usually he sleeps horizontally on top of a powerhead (for warmth
perhaps? Tank is around 78 degrees.) <For warmth, perhaps, and
there's the possibility he likes the massage action from the powerhead.
Your puffer is not unique in this, at least.> Anyway, I often catch
him sleeping vertically behind the powerhead, and my only guess is
because I have the lights in my room on past his bedtime when this
happens. He is the cutest fish! I have had him for several years, and
this seems to be normal behavior for him (well, his actual gender
unknown!) Hope I could help! Rob Lewis Long Beach, CA USA
<Thank you for the info. I ALWAYS appreciate getting more or better info
relating to puffers! --Ananda> Puffed-Up Puffer 6/14/04
Hi, I'm really needing some advice right now <Hi, Pufferpunk here.>
My valentini has been inflated on and off for over an hour. This
happened after feeding him a shrimp tail (his favorite). He's never
puffed up like this. <Something must have spooked him.> I put in
a PolyFilter just in case of unknown toxins. I also did a 50% water
change even though water levels were good: Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate
zero, salinity 1.019, temp 80. <SG sounds a little low. Better at
around 1.023.> He's really upset and jumpy (he's usually very
mellow) and is seems to be drifting like a balloon. <He sounds
like he must have swallowed some air.. Hold him vertically, tail down,
head under water & give him a few gentle shakes, until he "burps" it
out. He may inflate again while you're doing this, but he'll be sucking
in water, so it'll be ok.> He uninflated a couple of times (very
briefly) then puffed up again. I didn't see him ingest any air but I
guess it's a possibility. He's in a 10g. QT and has been for 3
weeks. Poor little guy. I feel totally helpless:( Thanks much
-Angela <After burping him, I'd leave the lights off & let him
rest. Good luck with the little fellow. ~PP>
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