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Valentini Puffer Not Eating
1/10/07
<Hi donna, Pufferpunk here>
Hi, I hope you can help me. My Valentini puffer hasn't eaten in 4 days. I don't
notice any sign of illness (like ich or spot on it) I usually feed it shrimp
brine.
<Brine shrimp>
It seemed to like that but recently it's refusing to eat anything. It just swims
around when I feed it and it looks like my puffer is looking for something else
to eat. In my tank I also have a clown fish, 6 line wrasse, yellow watchman goby
and a damsel. The other fish are all fine and eating. I wish I can read it's
mind what my puffer is thinking . Please help and reply Asap! I don't know how
much longer can it last, cuz it's looking thinner from not eating.
<First of all, brine shrimp is basically non-nutritious, being about 97% water &
almost no protein at all. You must feed your puffer meaty, crunchy foods.
See: http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
Here's an article on getting your puffer to eat:
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/library/feeding/problems-feeding-your-puffer/
Be sure to check your parameters: ammonia/nitrite (should be 0 at all times),
nitrate (<10)& pH (around 8-8.3). Puffers are sensitive fish & if their
parameters are off, they will not eat. One more thing, take a look at his teeth.
You have been feeding him soft food & puffers need crunchy foods to keep their
teeth trimmed. Please do a search on puffer fish dentistry, if necessary. ~PP>
Thanks, Donna
Re: Valentini Puffer Not
Eating 1/10/07
<Hi again Donna>
Thank you for your help. I will try to give my puffer other food. Last night I
give it some frozen shrimp without the shell but it didn't seem to like to eat
that either. Should I get shrimp with shell on it instead? Thanks again!
<Although shell-on is a better "crunchy" meal for your puffer's teeth, I don't
think with or without the shell matters as far as the fish's tastes. Your puffer
is wild-caught & probably isn't used to eating foods that don't move. Follow
that 2nd link I gave you on how to entice your puffer to eat dead foods. ~PP>
Donna
Re: Valentini Puffer Not
Eating 1/11/08
Hi it's me again.
<Hi Donna>
OK, I got the parameters and it turns out my nitrite is 0.5 and everything else
is okay or normal.
<I would prefer you don't use terms like "okay or normal". They mean nothing to
me. I also need to know the exact ammonia, nitrate, specific gravity & pH. ANY
amount of nitrite is toxic to your fish & would definitely make it not feel like
eating. If you are showing nitrite, your tank is not cycled properly. Please
tell me how you cycled your tank. How large is the tank? What filtration are you
using?>
So do you think I should change 25% of the water and add aquarium salt?
<Aquarium salt? Why? Are you using marine salt to make your marine water or
aquarium salt? Are you using a hydrometer or refractometer to measure the
salinity? I definitely think you should do 25% water changes daily, until you
can get the nitrite to stay at 0. I really need to know what your other
parameters are though.>
I also bought some other kind of food but Puffer is still not eating. Help!!!
<Can't really blame him right now. ~PP>
Donna
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Proper feeding of Canthigaster solandri 9/19/06
Hi, Crew.
<Dan>
I'm getting conflicting answers from the FAQs and from my LFS
(Aquatic Warehouse in San Diego)
<Ah, yes... know the store... some fine folks there>
regarding feeding my new baby puffer (named "Toby" -- I know, not
very original...).
<Heee>
Anyways, I know he is an omnivore, and feeds with gusto on the Mysis,
macroalgae, Nori, and other mixed marine foods that we provide. He
also spends a fair amount of time picking at the live rock. So far
so good.
<Yes>
The LFS claims that he will not require additional "tooth grinding"
food, as the live-rock-picking will keep his chompers happy.
<Likely so>
From the FAQs, however, it would appear that weekly hard-shelled
things would be Very Good. Can I get some clarifications on this?
Thanks much,
Dan
<More tooth-wearing material might help, though as stated, with your
live rock material, not likely necessary. Bob Fenner>
Feeding Sharpnose puffers 4/14/06
Hi WWM crew:
<Alex>
I recently purchased two sharpnose puffers. One is Canthigaster valentini and
the other is Canthigaster solandri. I have always been told that they told be
fed clams and mussels still in the shell or raw shrimp or crab with their
exoskeleton still attached in order to wear down their teeth.
<Can, yes>
My question is, do they have to be fed with those item all the time? Or just
once in a while? Can frozen Mysis shrimp help wear down their teeth too?
Thanks
<Once in a while (weekly let's say) is fine. Mysids don't have much of a hard
exoskeleton. And lastly, I would not place two Tobies (unless they were a
"pair") in the same system, unless it was very large (hundreds of gallons), just
in case you're doing this, or others reading here might not know. Bob Fenner>
Valentini Puffer with a picky appetite 3/14/06
Greetings Crew,
<Eric>
Let me first start off by saying that your site is wonderful and has
provided me with a great deal of information. However, now I have sort of a
problem that I can't seem to find the answer for in the posts. I have a 29
gallon fish only tank that I have had set up for about 5 months now. In it I
have a chocolate chip starfish, a clown, and two shrimp. About a month ago I
purchased a Valentini Puffer and introduced him to the tank.
<Surprising that it has not "picked" on your shrimp and star...>
He is very small, only about 1"- 1.5", which is actually the reason why I got
him. I
didn't want to crowd the tank. Anyway, he was lively at the store and I
watched them feed him before purchase. I noticed at first when I got him
home that he was very lethargic and just laid around the tank a lot, but I
learned from your site that this is normal activity.
<Yes, can be>
Lately he has perked up and started swimming around a lot more, especially when
he sees me approaching the tank.
<Good. Food conditioned response>
His eyes are clear and he seems to be very healthy.
But now I have another problem. I can only get him to eat brine shrimp. He
has a very large appetite and absolutely devours all brine I put in the
tank, but he will not touch any other offerings. I have tried frozen
krill, dehydrated freeze dried mysis shrimp, and various types of flake foods.
<Do keep trying these... mixed in with less and less Artemia... this animal will
not starve I assure you>
Even though the brine I feed him are encapsulated with multi-vitamins, I fear
that he is not getting all the nutrients he needs.
From what I have learned from your site, brine should only be fed as a treat and
do not hold a lot of nutritional value.
<Generally not in the longer haul>
I want to provide him with a variety of foods that will keep him healthy. I was
just wondering if you
could recommend any other foods or feeding methods that may help me get him
to eat a more varied diet. Thanks in advance for the help!!
Eric
<Mixing the foods and "holding out" will win the day here. Do keep an eye out
for the ultimate bite marks... Bob Fenner>
Diet for a small puffer
Hello everyone,
<Hi! Ananda here today...>
Your FAQs page is one of the superb places I've seen on the net! Its been the creamer of my cappuccino during my coffee breaks.
<Glad to hear it! ...make mine a double mocha...>
The last info exchange I had was from Magnus. Its about my Valentini (Tamblot is the name) who murdered my clown.
< :-( >
Anyway, the heartaches of everyone at home are gone. And in fact, Tamblot has all their attention now.
<Puffers are very, very good at doing that.>
He is being fed alternately with Tetra Doro Marin and locally prepared fish pellets. He also have a weekly dose of liquid fish supplement. Right now, I am planning to introduce more varieties into his diet.
<Sounds like a plan.>
Fresh seafoods I should say.
<Ah...be wary. They can harbor disease or parasites that could be transmitted to your puffer.>
These are abundant around but I don't know how to prepare such.
<Freeze them for a few days, first, to kill any hitchhiking nasties.>
As what I've read from your FAQs, shrimps, shells, squids, and such others are good for him and for his teeth.
<Yup.>
But how could I make a 3-inch fresh and kicking shrimp be a food to my 1-inch Valentini?
<Blink. A 1" puffer? No wonder he's become the darling of the tank!>
Would I just quarantine the shrimp for a week or two and let it loose inside the main tank to let Tamblot do the slicing?
<I think I'd keep Tamblot on already-dead food: much easier to keep a quantity on hand, that way, and easier to control the amount he can eat.>
If that's the case, I'm afraid Tamblot would look like a broiled turkey on a saucepan
for the shrimp.
<Ah, you are giving me such odd mental images this morning....>
We also have green shells and squids (I mean the sizes of these are good for, say a fried
calamari topped with mayo). These are fresh from catch but then again how?
<For the squid, once it's dead and cleaned, freeze it, then grate it into small shreds. I'm not familiar with
green shells, but again, I would simply(?) kill, clean, freeze, and dice the meat before giving it to the puffer.>
Hope you could suggest a few ways to prepare these stuff as a food for my Valentini.
<Giving him the food while it's still hard-frozen can help keep his teeth worn down, too.>
Thanx a lot and more power to your team. regards, Joebel J. Sorioso
<Thanks, and best of luck with you puffer. --Ananda>
Toby feeding questions
I've had a valentini puffer in QT for 4 weeks now, over 3 weeks ich-free.
I'm planning on introducing the puffer in the 90 gal. display tank this week
(which also houses a flame angel, neon goby and inverts).
When I first got him, he was a really fussy eater (he was sick after all). Now
he eats almost anything.
I recently stocked my tank with various macro algae-Ulva, Sargassum and
Gracilaria to provide greenery, get rid of diatom algae, as well as providing
food for my fish.
I am now wondering if the puffer will gorge himself on the algae in the display
tank. He gobbles up the bits that I have been placing in the QT.
<Perhaps>
Do these little guys know when to stop eating? I don't want to inadvertently be
overfeeding him by keeping the plants in the main tank. I do however, want him
well-fed so he won't be as tempted to nibble on my inverts (turbo snails,
Strombus grazers, micro-hermits, bristle worms). I know they might get eaten
(I'm sad about this but I love my puffer more). I'm trying to be careful about
over-feeding him. I usually feed him twice a day (a shrimp tail or ghost
shrimp/Mysis or piece of clam in the morning), then some greens at night. Is
this too much food? Lately, he's seems to have a larger appetite and is always
begging for more food.
<Your Sharpnose Puffer will not likely eat itself to death... or even to
illness>
Maybe I'll wind up taking the algae out of the main tank (I don't have a
refugium, but I could put them in the QT once the puffer's out). As it is, the
flame angel doesn't really eat any of them, but the snails seem too! Now I know
why I never see SW tanks with live plants...
thanks much
-Angela
<Keep looking. Bob Fenner>
I have an orange tailed Fiji Puffer.
<That common name isn't seen much in the pet trade, but typically this name
is given to Canthigaster solandri, sometimes called spotted Sharpnose puffer.>
He hasn’t eaten in 2 weeks and seems lethargic. I’ve read other postings but
haven’t found any similar to mine because my tank has never experienced
infestations.
His tank mates are a Picasso Trigger and an Assorted Puffer. Both fish are
eating and responding normally in the 50 gallon tank.
<Hard to tell what "Assorted Puffers" might be, if it's another
Sharpnose puffer
then it isn't good cause two Sharpnose variety of puffers in the same tank can
be bad. One will be more dominant, and the submissive one will eat less, and
not be as outgoing. Also, Triggers can be aggressive. My Picasso wasn't bad,
but a friend had one what would pick on tankmates constantly. My biggest
concern is that a 50 gallon tank is not large enough for these fish. The bare
minimum for a single Picasso (Huma Huma) trigger is 75, and with that and other
messy fish such as puffers you run the risk of problems with such a small tank.>
Tank conditions are ideal, 78 degrees, salinity 1.023 – 1.025, Zero or minimal
nitrates, nitrites, and ammonia. All fish enjoy eating a varied diet of freeze
dried krill, frozen brine shrimp, and live minnows.
<You should offer these fish other foods besides this. Freeze dried Krill is
good, my puffers love it, but it's not as nutritious as offering them fresh
seafood. I purchase shrimp, octopus, squid and clams and offer my puffers it to
them once or twice a week. You can purchase bags of seafood mixes at your
local grocery story (food for people). Plus you get to snack on it as
well. Frozen Brine Shrimp doesn't offer much of anything in the way of
nutrition. And Live minnows aren't a good source, since these are freshwater
fish, they don't have the same nutrients and fats found in marine fish. Plus,
live fish still offer a way to bring parasites to the tank.>
25% of tank water and filters are change every 4 weeks or so.
<This should be smaller water changes more frequently, and make sure that you
premix the water a day or two before adding it to the tank.>
I’ve had the Fiji for almost 3 months. The Fiji’s behavior began to change
after the last tank change. I did move the live rock that he normally sleeps
on.
<"Tank Change" meaning that you literally changed the tank around, or that you
changed the water in the tank. If it was after a water change, then it could be
that the new water might have had a difference in it's chemistry compared to
what was in the tank. I check alkalinity and other levels in my mixes before
adding them to the tank. If you changed the fish to a new tank, then it could
be difficult for it to adjust. Make sure that there is enough territory for
these fish, that they all can claim a spot of the tank as their own.>
The fish get along. The trigger nips once and a while at both fish but never
breaks the skin or continues for a period of time.
<Chances are high that it might nip when you aren't around as well. The fish
doesn't have to break the skin to disturb the other fish enough to not eat.>
Any thoughts on what could’ve caused the puffer to stop eating and become less
responsive?
<Sounds as though he's being bullied. I had a small dogface puffer that did the
same thing, it turned out that one of the clown fish that shared a tank with it
was constantly pestering it. Once I removed the aggressor, all was fine. I
suggest you start setting up a quarantine tank and let it get ready just in case
you need to move this puffer out. perhaps once he is out he will start eating..
or you can move the aggressor there and see if the puffer improves.>
He is relieving himself on a regular basis so I was thinking he might be eating
something else.
<puffers pick at stuff on the live rock. Mine love to eat almost everything
possible.>
He also does seem a bit more bloated but he does not have any spots or change in
color that would indicate parasites, disease, or injury.
Thanks!
<My guess is he is being picked on by something. that is what it sounds like to
me. Separate them if you can and see if it improves. Also another trick is
to buy some live snails from your local reef shop and feed them some live
foods. I've "cured" many a depressed puffer by feeding them that. it's like
giving chocolate to a 6 year old. Good luck. -Magnus>
Valentini Puffer Long in the Tooth 1/9/05
Hi!
<Hi, Pufferpunk here>
I've got a quick question about my Valentini Puffer. I've had him for nearly
one year in my 44 gal FOWLR. His tank mates include a blue devil damsel, a
longnose hawkfish, a false percula and then two inverts: a coral-banded shrimp
and a cleaner shrimp. Recently I've noticed that my puffer has had trouble
eating. I associate this problem to his fused beak forming an 'over-bite' of
sorts making it difficult for him to open his mouth wide enough to swallow most
food pellets. The puffer is approx. two inches in length and I feed him once a
day alternating between 'Formula Two Marine Pellets' and frozen cubes of 'Hikari
Mega-Marine Cubes' (too many ingredients in cubes to list). I do not believe
this to be a matter of 'lock-jaw' as I've read about on your site, just big
teeth. What do you suggest that can be fed to him to file down the beak, keep
in mind his mouth can't open very wide. I've read about people feeding clams
and prawn (what's this by the way) to their puffers, if this would be an
appropriate food to reduce his beak, would I just feed him the tender meat
inside of the shell? Thanks in advance for all your help! Peace and Puffer
Grease
<Once your puffer's teeth are overgrown, no amount of crunchy foods will
help. Here's an article on proper feeding of puffers & trimming their teeth:
http://puffer.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=hospital&action=display&num=1085932782 I
hope this helps! ~PP>
-David
Valentini puffer and coralline algae 19 Jan 2005
Hello, <Hi Paul, MacL here with you.>
I recently added a Valentini Sharpnose Puffer to my 125 gallon FOWLR. Since
introduction a few days ago this little guy has done a number on my coralline
algae. He is constantly nipping at the live rock, and has cleared off a good
portion of the algae. I have attempted to feed krill, Mysis shrimp, and Formula
One, but nothing seems to appease him like the beautiful algae. <I think you
need to get him some algae based foods, like Nori or formula Two that is algae
based. Hopefully that will get him started on something else besides your
coralline. Unfortunately once they start it is very very hard to get them to
stop.> I was wondering if he was going to continue in this manner until all
coralline is gone, or do you know of some other foods to try? <Look for foods
with Spirulina, perhaps some flake with it in it. Let me know if it works. MacL>
Thank you for your time Paul,<Thank you Paul>
Toby (puffer) benthic feeding habits 2/9/05
I have a Canthigaster valentini that on occasion will pick at/eat sand. Is this natural?
<Quite natural... they even rasp the mucous off the base of polyps and anemones>
All water parameters/maintenance in perfect condition. No disease. No stress from other fish.
<No worries>
He eats well otherwise. Regards, Mike Rivera
<Keep observing/enjoying my friend. Anthony>
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