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FAQs about Toxic Water Conditions: Foods/Feeding
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YOUR GUESTS - Party Pooper - 09/16/2005 Hi Guys! <Hi,
Terry!> Your web site is wonderful. <Thanks, a lot
of work goes into it.> I was hoping you could help me. I have 29g
Marine Land aquarium with about 28 lbs of live rock in it, heater, and a
Berlin airlift skimmer. I have had it set up for two years without
(thankfully) any problems. I have 1 blue damsel, 1 clarkii (my two
original inhabitants), 2 peppermint shrimp, and had a coral beauty which
I added a month and a half ago. This past Sunday morning - 3 mornings
ago, I found all this junk about 1/2 an inch thick lining the perimeter
of the tank. <Yikes....> I had people over the night
before and found that someone dumped over half of a .35oz container of
freeze dried baby shrimp (freshwater fishy treats) into the aquarium,
I'm not sure exactly at what time. <Oh. My. God. Do
your guests always manipulate your belongings and put your pets in
harm's way like this?!> I immediately scooped out as much as I
could, thinking, "wow, at least I found it in time". <I
would've been thinking, "Wow, I'm glad that person isn't in front of me
right now, or I'd probably be in trouble." Also.... after having been
there all night, I doubt you were "in time" to beat the drop in water
quality that is sure to follow such an act.> I scooped a little more
out on Monday, <More? Yeah, you need to be testing your water
quality and doing some serious water changes.> but the fish were
eating like normal (except for the angel who just grazed the live rock
as usual). This morning before school I noticed that the damsel was
eating all by himself and found my Clarkii breathing heavily and lying
at the bottom of the tank behind the filter tube. <Not
at all surprising. This fish is suffering ammonia poisoning.> I
moved him into my 6 gallon eclipse "hospital" tank. -I have never used
this as a hospital tank, I have had it 8 months with potatoe-bits of
live rock and sand with lots of silly amphipods and tiny snails. I was
late for school so I only "acclimated" the clarkii for 5 min. I noticed
he had film over his eyes and what looked like some fungus on small
parts of his abdomen. When I got home after 8pm he had 1 eye swollen
...Popeye. <From the poor environmental conditions he
just left. You can add Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) to the tank at a
rate of 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons (so just 1 tablespoon in this 6g
tank) to help reduce the swelling.> His left pectoral fin is ripped,
almost seems chewed, but doesn't have any white or discoloration or
signs of fin rot. <All just environmental. You
absolutely need to test water and do serious water changes....> He
is moving his bottom jaw very rapidly, 4x per second, I'm not sure if
this is a sign of labored breathing. <His gills were
burned, possibly even permanently damaged, from the ammonia. Increase
aeration in the quarantine tank to help him be able to breathe as he
recovers.> He ate some flake food and is swimming around the tank
cautiously, <VERY good signs.... You may have gotten to him just in
time. Time and good water quality will tell, here.> no longer
laying on the sand, but seeming distressed. Should I use Maracyn?
<No, nothing but pristine water quality, and *possibly* Nitrofurazone,
as this can help with ammonia burns.> Should it be for bacterial
infections or fungal, or both? <Neither. This is just
environmental disease at this point - but you must watch closely lest he
develop secondary infections from his deteriorated condition.> Will
this kill the amphipods, snails, or other organisms in my small live
rocks? <Likely to harm them.... don't medicate unless
it's absolutely unavoidable.> Is there some thing else you
recommend? Also, immediately after pulling the Clarkii I found that my
Coral Beauty had passed on. <Not surprising.> I
never noticed any odd symptoms from her, but I got home after the timer
turned the lights off last night, (so I didn't check them
yesterday). Could all that food have spiked my ammonia and nitrite
levels that quick? <Oh, yes. Without a doubt. Please
educate your guests responsible as to what happened, and that they are
to never do such a thing again.> I unfortunately let my brother
borrow my testing kit so I can't check my levels until tomorrow.
<Then at the very least, do a MAJOR water change.> Should I take the
damsel out (if I can catch him) and change 50% of the water?
<Or more. Same on the 6g. If you can get the levels down in the main
tank, the damsel can stay put.> If I cannot catch him, how much do
you recommend I can safely change? <50% or so now, and again in
several hours.> Please help, Mr. Clarkii and the damsel are part of
our family. <Hurry up and do your best!> Thank you so much, and
sorry for the lengthy email, Terry from MD <Wishing you and your
fish well, -Sabrina> Prime reef Have you
ever heard of toxicity problems associated with Prime Reef flake foods?
<Hmm, no...> Although I can hardly believe it, this food has killed
in a spectacular fashion, many of my fish, mostly hawks. By spectacular
I mean the fish immediately goes into convulsions, swimming wildly
without control until dead a few seconds later. I also lost a Sailfin
tang the same way. I've ruled out any other possibilities by water
changes, salt mfg. changes and dechlorinator changes. These deaths
occurred in different tanks at different times with only one thing in
common, the food. All occurred immediately after consuming Prime Reef.
If you have any corroborating information please let me know. Thanks.
<This is my first exposure with any reports of this sort... have you
contacted the manufacturer? Had your food sample tested by a lab? I
would do both. Bob Fenner> Re: potassium and prime reef
Hello Bob. I wrote you earlier today describing the violent deaths of
many of my fish immediately after they had eaten Prime Reef flake food.
As I was reading the ingredient list on the can, I noticed at least two
sources of potassium. I soften my water supply with potassium chloride
salt to remove the calcium which carries an excessive amount of radium.
<Really? Fascinating...> Do you think it is possible that excess
potassium in the aquarium water when combined with the food might have a
toxic effect? <Quite a thesis... but no... not likely as far as
anything I know...> Has anyone ever studied the effects of potassium
on marine tropicals? <Am very sure there are such studies... an
essential nutrient... you could/will cause a stir with adding another
"test" here...> Is the amount of potassium found in water softened
with KCl dangerous to fish? <If not dangerous to... than not likely
to your livestock...> If you can offer any information I would really
appreciate it . Thanks again. <I can only refer you to existing texts
on "Fish Foods", encourage you to pursue a search of the scientific
literature on toxicity of Potassium, its salts... on aquatic life... go
see a college reference librarian with your query. They can/will help
you with a computer search of existing knowledge. Bob Fenner>
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