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FAQs about Marine Crab Identification 12

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stuff, Decapod ID ESP, More likely development of a content provider in our interest  – 10/22/09
Dear sir/madam,
<... will you read my book?>
I have two questions.
<I have considerably more. Let's start with yours though>
Firstly, I have a hitchhiker crab, I was wondering can you tell the type by it's cast off carapace?
<Perhaps>
I've been trying to lure him out, kill him, and trap him in a jar to no avail. I know that it has red eyes, a tanned body and two white stripes between its eyes. Just want to know what type it is. I can send a picture of the shell if needs be. The left over shell had small black spots on the claws too if that helps.
<Uhhh>
Secondly, I was reading on the site about some of the WWM team being writers for publications regarding aquatics and would like some advice. I work in a aquarium shop in Belfast (Exotic Aquatics), and I've got a degree
in newspaper journalism, and I'm interested in fish but I've been trying to write pieces on fish., on equipment, etc, and I just can't seem to transfer from news to fish. I mean, I know a good bit about aquatics but there's a
lot I don't too and I'm looking to get a bit of income out of writing so even just a few areas to stick my nose in an get a few stories would be good. If this could be passed on to Mr. Fenner or anyone else who publishes work, that would be kind of whoever has to read this.
Kind regards,
Bob Malcolm
<Bob... do write your submissions into Neale Monks and Andrew Nixon (our co-editors of our online 'zine... and both Britons...) and let's see if we can help you on your way to becoming a pet-fish content producer! Bob Fenner>

Crab Identification: Fiddler Crab – 10/15/09
Hi :)
<Ah, bonjour Marie, Lynn here today!>
I received yesterday 2 little red crabs from the Philippines and I'm not sure what they are because of the eyes. I think they may be fiddler crabs...
<You’re right. The overall shape/length of the stalked eyes and sharply pointed carapace seem to be fairly common within the semi-terrestrial fiddlers in the genus Uca, family Ocypodidae. The closest I can find is a photo of something alleged to be Uca arcuata (see this link: http://www.geocities.com/rainforest/canopy/5280/philip.htm ). Unfortunately, I can’t confirm the ID. Either the color/pattern varies quite a bit (as shown at the above link) or they’re different species entirely. Apparently, in the Philippines, these are mainly mangrove/shallow water/intertidal crabs that make their burrows in the mud and sand. Interestingly enough, I’ve seen a similar species being offered for sale on the internet, listed as a “Red Burrowing” crab in the genus Uca. >
..even if they don't have the oversize claw... maybe they're female.
<Yes, my thought as well.>
I sent you a picture, maybe you can help me with this identification.
<I sure wish I could give you a solid ID to species level, but there are just too many possibilities and not enough available information on the ‘net and within my research books.>
I don't want to give bad information to my customers.
<Good for you! I wish all merchants were this conscientious! Unfortunately, I have to add that these little crabs should not be kept in a fully submerged marine system. They’d do much better in an environment more closely resembling they’re natural habitat (mixed land/water). For more information on this group of crabs, please enter the terms (Uca or fiddler) into our Google search engine (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/Googlesearch.htm). I’ve seen several posts regarding solid red fiddler crabs with reports of them being very reclusive. Apparently, once added, they tend to burrow/hide and not come out much. In Barnes’ Invertebrate Zoology (sixth edition, pg. 717), it states that tropical species of this genus “tend to be active only during diurnal low tides”. That’s not a whole lot, even in the wild! Also, they’re still crabs and basically opportunistic, so hobbyists will need to keep these well fed to discourage picking/killing of desirable livestock.>
Thank you
<It was a pleasure, Marie.>
Marie
<Take care, LynnZ>

Re: Anemone & Crab ID Query  10/9/09
Hi Bob and Crew,
I saw this query come in but unfortunately can't ID the anemone in question. As for the crab, it looks like a Xanthid of some sort but unfortunately, there's just not enough information for me to take it any
further. I don't know the crab's size, where it originated, or if it was associated with anything else. In addition, I can't quite see enough of the carapace or claws. It looks like a lot of detail (how hairy...where hairy, surface texture/bumps) is lost/obscured because the crab's out of water, with water clinging. Anyway, all I can really offer is that it's likely a Xanthid. Sorry about that...wish I could be of more help!
Thanks!
-LynnZ
<Thank you Lynn... I can't tell much more myself. BobF>

Lynn/Crew,
I also didn't grab the query because of the crab ID, but I believe the anemone is a Long Tentacle/Corkscrew (Macrodactyla) Anemone. The picture quality is poor/dark so I'm not betting any money on it.
James
<Me neither. BobF>

Anemone & crab ID
Hi need an ID for this anemone. it's color is dark brown/maroon.
Thanks Siddharth
<Can't discern from this poor photograph. Bob Fenner>

Crab Identification 9/11/09
I have been unable to identify these crabs; and was hoping you may be able to help. They were collected in the northeast US in approximately 30 feet of water. The largest of the three is a little larger than an inch. A similar crab I was able to find on the internet was Cryptolithodes typicus.
<If it were Cryptolithodes typicus, they would be a long way from home.
Butterfly crabs are generally found in East Pacific waters.
I have no idea what type crabs these are. There are hundreds/thousands of species of crabs
<<... No... there are about 5k described species of "crabs" of which about 500 are "false crabs", Anomurans, like the Hermits... RMF>>
 and researching to accurately ID would be much too time consuming. As we are all volunteers with little time available,
our time is focused toward animals generally encountered in the tropical/sub-tropical
marine hobby. Now, if they were from tropical waters, an ID may be possible. Time spent Googling would be your best bet, is what we would need to do.>
Thank you for your time,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Cam
<<James, again, please don't respond to queries for which you don't have a qualified opinion. RMF who doesn't know what these are either. Am going to put in LynnZ's in-box>>

Re: Crab Identification
Good morning Bob,
Mmm, does the "hundreds/thousands" not fall into the "5k described species"?
<Mmm, perhaps I misread... as hundreds of thousands. Sorry re>
Not being a smarty pants here either, just thought I was in the ball park. You are correct Bob, I'm not qualified to ID crabs, especially species not related to the hobby. Was just trying to point out that we are not a research site as such, but a knowledge base for subjects associated with the tropical marine keeping hobby.
If I'm on the wrong track here, please do let me know.
Cheers,
James
<Thank you, BobF>

Re Crab Identification 9/15/09
Thanks for passing the pictures along for id. I don't know if it would help but the crabs were collected in Nantucket Sound (south of Cape Cod). The crabs are currently at The Cape Cod Museum of Natural History, they have yet to identify them.
They don't seem to want to feed, and I was wondering if you had any suggestions for what to give them.
<I haven't a clue, especially not knowing what they are. Likely specialized feeders.>
Also I thought you might have the name of a person or group I could contact who would specialize in crabs that are not tropical.
<I know of no one, Bob or other crewmembers may know. May want to ask the folks at Cape Cod Museum Of Natural History.>
Thanks again for your time,
<You're welcome. Sorry we could not be of more help. James (Salty Dog)>
Cam

Re: Crab Identification: Likely Elbow Crab – 9/22/09
<Hello Cam, Lynn here today with a follow-up.>
I have been unable to identify these crabs; and was hoping you may be able to help.
<I’ll sure try. As was noted in the previous response, there are an awful lot of crab species out there!>
They were collected in the northeast US in approximately 30 feet of water. The largest of the three is a little larger than an inch. A similar crab I was able to find on the internet was Cryptolithodes typicus.
<It is indeed similar, but I believe it’s more than likely a Brachyuran/”true” crab (4 pairs of walking legs) in the family Parthenopidae. These are commonly known as “elbow crabs”. Cryptolithodes species (family Lithodidae) are Anomurans/”false” crabs with 3 pairs of walking legs and comparatively short claw arms. From the looks of your little fellows, the term “elbow crab” seems to fit rather nicely. There are quite a few Parthenopid species that have triangular (or near triangular) carapaces and fairly small/sometimes hidden walking legs. Here’s an example (Heterocrypta lapidea): http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/bn/v5n2/en_a03fig22.jpg . This specie’s range is listed as the West Indies to Brazil so unfortunately, it’s not a likely candidate. However, it appears similar enough to warrant more research in that direction (including other genera within this family) should you desire to pursue an ID. Unfortunately, I can’t see quite enough detail to go any further. Here are more examples from the Central Pacific region. I know it's not the area your crabs are from but you can at least see the various attributes within multiple genera all in one location: http://decapoda.free.fr/search_result.php?faname=Parthenopidae
Parthenopidae classification including genera: http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/classification/Parthenopidae.html >
Thank you for your time,
<You’re very welcome.>
Cam
<Take care, LynnZ>
Hi Lynn,
Went to the UofM Animal Diversity site as you list below and I did not see any pics???
Oops, I see now, one needs to click on Parent Taxa to locate the pics.
James

Help Identify a Crab: Possible Xanthid: Paractaea monodi - 8/22/09
Hello,
<Hello Susan, Lynn here today.>
Have you ever seen this crab before?
<Oh yes. I’ve seen this little crab before - or at least those like it. My best guess is that it’s most likely a Xanthid in the genus Paractaea, possibly a fairly cosmopolitan species: Paractaea monodi (Monod's round crab). Please see the following links for comparison:
http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/images/mP9JnaH6Rn.jpg
See several photos half-way down the following page and another good one at the bottom: http://www.ivanov.ch/redseaMax/crabes.html . By the way, there are also some “red-eyed reef crabs” in the genus Eriphia (family Menippidae) that look similar, but the carapace is not quite right (spiny/serrated edges instead of smooth, different overall shape and surface anatomy, etc.). See examples here: http://www.wildsingapore.com/wildfacts/crustacea/crab/eriphiidae/ferox.htm >
I have looked at many pages of crab pictures today and I cannot find one like it.
<Well, there are an awful lot of crab species out there!>
This crab was not purchased on purpose- it was apparently living in a piece of live rock that was added to the tank!
<Yep, that’s usually how they’re introduced!>
The shell is a very deep purple/black color under the lights and its eyes are dark orange/red.
<It’s actually a very attractive little crab, but an opportunistic omnivore and scavenger as well, with an unfortunate potential to destroy livestock.>
Any leads to identifying it would be appreciated.
<Hope the above information helps!>
Thanks,
<You’re very welcome.>
Susan
<Take care, LynnZ>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/infinitespirals/3844290588/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/infinitespirals/3843501515/sizes/l/

Hitchhiker Crab/ID 8/13/09
Can you tell me what type of crab this is and whether or not I should keep it in my reef tank? I have looked all over and can't identify it.
<I did a quick check with a 100 or so photos I have and cannot come up with an ID. Let see, that leaves about 749,900 crabs I have not saw:)
The crab does appear to be a specie of a swimming crab (last pair of legs appear to be swim paddles), and most are very predatorial. To be on the safe side, I would remove.>
Thanks
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>

Crab ID – 7/24/09
Hello!
<Hello there!>
I am hoping you can assist with the identification of a crab I have had in my tank for approximately a year. It started out about ½" across but now has grown to well over 1". I have not seen him in over 6 months and then there he was tonight. I looked through all the available photos but did not see anything that I could be sure about. I can speculate that he came in on some rock from Florida.
<Unfortunately, I can’t see enough of the little fellow to be able to give you much in the way of an ID. All I can say is that it looks a bit like a Pilumnid (superfamily Xanthoidea, family Pilumnidae). Please see the following links for examples of crabs in this family for comparison: http://www.scielo.br/img/revistas/bn/v5n2/en_a03fig44.jpg
Pilumnus sayi: http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/sertc/images/photo%20gallery/Pilumnus%20sayi.jpg
Just bear in mind that all crabs are opportunistic omnivores that are usually okay when small, but can be a problem as their bodies and appetites grow. If (and that’s a really big if) what you have is indeed something in the genus Pilumnus, those usually stay fairly small. The same rules still apply though – if the crab gets hungry enough, it can cause problems.>
I am wondering if I should (attempt) to remove him from the tank.
<If the opportunity comes along (he’s out where you can net him) I’d remove him and find him another home. I wouldn’t go so far as tearing the tank apart to find him though. If you’re unable to get him out, I’d make sure he’s got enough food to discourage him from sampling something he shouldn’t and keep an eye on him (and your livestock). He may be getting a bit more bold because he’s hungry. You could try feeding him meaty bits of marine origin (shrimp/fish/clam etc), sinking pellets or the like. Obviously, if you’re noticing any damage to your livestock, I’d recommend getting him out of there sooner rather than later. You can always try to trap the little guy. There are some commercially available versions on the market or you could try the tipped jar method. Once you figure out where he hangs out within the rock, take a clean jar and lean/wedge it up against the area. Put a piece of stinky shrimp or bait in the bottom and wait. You might have to leave it in place overnight. The idea is that the crab smells the bait, falls into the jar and can’t climb back out. Sometimes this works, sometimes you end up with everything but the crab in there! Hopefully your little crab will be bold enough to come out in the open where you can net him without any fuss!>
I have noticed that starfish that I have added will get injuries that appear as if the insides are exploding out from them and I wonder if he might be causing them.
<Yikes. It could be but it could also be that the star is dying/reacting to adverse water conditions, rough treatment prior to (recent) purchase or any number of things. If it happens again, do write us with all pertinent info – water parameters, what species it is, what other livestock you have, how long you’ve had it, etc.>
Thank you!
<You’re very welcome! Take care, LynnZ>

My crabinator, ID, comp...  12/12/08
Hello, I sent this four or five days ago. I just want to be sure you all got it? Can you please let me know.
Thanks,
Poma
<Hi Poma,
Mich here. I apologize for the delay. I have been crazy-busy preparing/flying across country for the holidays. Please see my answer below.
Cheers,
Mich>
My Crabinator... Your responsibility
Hey Crew!
<Hey Poma!>
I love you guys!
<All you need is love!>
I met Mich back in Atlanta (I hope you remember me?),
<How could I forget?>
watched Scott's talk on biotope aquariums and loved it!
<Most excellent!>
Anyway, I have noticed that you have a knack for id's Mich.
<I do enjoy these types of questions.>
I was wondering if you could help me out with my new crab.
<I will try.>
I found it a few days back at the beech.
<Beech, birch and maple. All begins with A.>
Could not resist the little bugger,
<I would not prescribe to the "resistance is futile" mentality here.>
brought it home and put the little bugger in my tank.
<Mmm, this is most unwise. In general I recommend that people know about the animals care requirements BEFORE actually assuming responsibility for their care. When we bring an animal into our world we become the provider for all of the needs for this life. It is a weighty responsibility and should not be taken lightly. I'm not trying to be critical here, just want to use this as a teaching opportunity.>
Anyway, my tank:
45 gallon
2X 150 MH 14000K
2X 39 W actinic T5
2X MaxiJet 1200 returns
CPR Overflow
CPR Backpack skimmer in sump (thing is awesome!)
2X MaxiJet 900 in display
phosphate reactor
¼ hp chiller
250w heater
Eheim auto feeder
#60 or so of live rock, the Fuji type
<Heehee! Climbing mountains or picking apples?>
Fish:
two maroon clowns, a mated pair
mandarin goby
Copperband butterfly
3 blue damsels
2 Firefish
angler-new, yay!
<Please watch! My devour your other livestock!>
I want to add a Humu trigger,
<I wouldn't.>
but I think my tank is nearing max.
<I am in agreement with you.>
Inverts:
two sand sifting stars for cleanup
<I'm not a fan. They will decimate your live sand and then slowly starve to death.>
15 hermits
15 snails
xenia X a zillion
<Heehee! Love it!>
a blue clam
Water:
Ca-400
KH- 8
Ammo:0
Nitrites: 0
Nitrates: finally under control, down to 20!
<I'm surprised you've struggled with all your Xenia.>
Anyways, I don't know if I should keep this crab.
<From what part of the world did you collect this crab? I'm wondering if it might be a temperate species. Now that it has been in your system you should not release it back into your natural waterways as you could potentially introduce a foreign pathogen or invasive life>
If I can, what does it eat?
<It does look like a true crab and as such is likely to be an opportunistic omnivore... meaning watch your livestock.>
How do I take care of the thing.
<Again, it is always best to ask this question and know the answer before accepting the responsibility for care.>
If I can't keep it, what do I do with it and can you at least tell me exactly what it is, I would really, really like to know.
<Unfortunately I can not tell much from you photo. I would move the crab to your sump as long as there is nothing there which it could hurt or hurt it. Most crabs, unlike me, aren't terribly picky eaters. So bits of meaty foods should work. I would put a little rubble rock in your sump so the crab has some shelter.
Thanks a million, you people live rock!!!!!!!
<Heehee!>
Poma
<Cheers,
Mich>

Interesting Crab Found in My Lunch: Oyster Crab - 11/15/08
Hey Crew.
<Hi Andy>
I bought some Blue Point Oysters today and, upon opening one up, found the attached crab in the oyster.
<Neat>
I've seen these before, but this one was alive. I took a few shots of it and thought I'd share. I have no idea what kind of crab it is, but I thought it was interesting. Blue Points are from the Long Island Sound in New York. Enjoy.
<Thanks! It's very likely Pinnotheres ostreum, a type of pea crab, sometimes called an oyster crab. They're commensals that live in the mantle cavity of bivalves and are supposedly brownish-green in color, although they turn red when cooked (like lobsters and other crustaceans). Please Google the above scientific name and/or �oyster crab� for more information regarding these neat little creatures: http://wetwebmedia.com/Googlesearch.htm >
Andy
<Take care, Lynn>

Re: Interesting Crab Found in My Lunch: Oyster Crab - 11/17/08
Thanks, Lynn.
<It was a pleasure, Andy.>
Yep, from my searches, it does appear to be a Pea Crab. Looked exactly like the picture here: http://www.dnr.sc.gov/marine/sertc/images/photo%20gallery/Zaops%20ostreum%20in%20oyster.jpg
<Yes, they're odd but at the same time neat looking little creatures. By the way, I was looking around for more information today on this crab and found that the species name I gave you (Pinnotheres ostreum) has been reclassified as Zaops ostreum. Pinnotheres is considered a synonym but Zaops is the currently accepted genus.>
Not that it matters, but I noticed that when you posted my query on WWM, the pictures weren't attached.
<Yes, and I apologize for that. I'm not sure what happened.>
Take care, and thanks again/as always.
Andy
<You're very welcome. Take care, Lynn>

Weird flat spider thing  10/17/08
Guys, the information on this site is outstanding. My uncle was a Nat Geo marine photographer, and he seems to of passed the fascination on to me. I trolled your site but can't find what I'm looking for. Hope you can give me some clues to research
<OK.>
I just got home and the light timer hadn't been working...... which is another story. I got some awesome live rock from Queensland with a huge amount of life forms in it. All sorts of worms, crabs, tiny star fish, different slugs, crazy looking fungus and sponges, things that squirt stuff.... too much to mention. Anyway, enough boasting. I turned the lights on and there was this huge dark coloured flat creature with a centre piece, maybe 1.5inch to 2inch with between 6 - 8 hairy legs coming from the centre, that got thinner towards the ends. I guess the total diameter of the creature was about 6 - 8inch. It's ran away quickly a bit like an Octopus might.
<Hmm... without a photo, obviously difficult to out a name to this.>
Any ideas?
<Do review the genus Percnon, particularly Percnon gibbesi, a very common "stowaway" in reef tanks. It's very flattened, has long legs, and up to a point is amphibious. It's an invasive species, and has recently appeared in the Mediterranean.>
Many thanks
<Cheers, Neale.>

Mystery coralline-eating crab – 10/10/08
Hi there!
<Howsit Juli?>
Thanks for working to educate us newbies!
We have had a 50 gallon saltwater aquarium set up for about 6 months now with live sand, live rock, 2 ocellaris clowns, a Longnose Hawkfish, and a royal gramma Basslet. We also added an assortment of hermit crabs, snails, and a cleaner shrimp before realizing that the crabs were probably not the best idea.
<Surprised the Hawk has not consumed most all the crustaceans here>
However, the ones we purchased (red-legged, dwarf yellow tip, dwarf blue leg) are small and do not seem to be causing issues as of yet. Our last purchase a couple months ago were two pieces of live rock with mushroom corals attached... and apparently, a "cling on"... while looking after the lights went out one night, we discovered a small (maybe 1/2 inch?) hairy crab lurking under one of the rocks! I searched the site and found an obscure reference to one bearing similarities (http://photos1.blogger.com/photoInclude/hello/252/1727/640/DeadCrab.jpg) but it's not an exact match.
<Mmm, the shape overall, the darkened tips of the claws... a member of the family Xanthidae... Mud crab/s... predaceous>
Over several nights, I observed this crab moving sand
around underneath the mushroom rock and several adjacent ones and it only appears to be eating coralline algae.
<Mmm, and likely more>
I have witnessed this behavior, where it breaks a chunk of rock off with one of its claws (they are the same size) and sends grains of rock flying. The carapace itself appears to be purplish coralline in color and the legs are whitish, bumpy and fuzzy.
<Beautiful. Good description>
Its eye stalks are black and so far, the thing is only active after the lights go out. Sorry I couldn't get a pic, this little guy is definitely camera shy. If you can give any ideas or direction, we would greatly appreciate your help!
<Mmm, nothing more than a cursive review of our Crab ID FAQs: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/swcrabidfaqs.htm
and the many in the series linked above... This one... not a worry/problem until it's eating, destroying too much... at which point, you might want to bait/trap and remove it to elsewhere. Bob Fenner>

Re: Mystery coralline-eating crab  10/11/08
Bob,
Thanks so much! After searching under Xanthidae/mud crab, I most definitely think it's in that family. We are planning to upgrade to a 120 gallon tank in the next few months, so will be perfect timing to remove this guy and send him back to the LFS.
Regards,
Juli
<Ah good. Cheers, BobF>

Hitchhiker Crab ID: Need More Information – 10/8/08
Hello,
<Hi there!>
I wondered if you could identify this crab?
<I hope so! That's an interesting little crab you’ve got there. Is there any way you could get a photo showing the entire top of the crab/carapace and all legs (as detailed as possible)? I need a bit more information to help narrow down the possibilities. Also, do you know where the crab came from?>
Thank you in advance~
<You’re very welcome. –Lynn>

Re: Hitchhiker Crab ID: Need More Information – 10/8/08
<Hello again>
No sorry, that's the most I have ever seen of him.
<Well, I can sure understand. I have a crab that likes to play hide and seek with me as well. I know what species it is, but I’ve never been able to get a good photo of it. Your success is a testament to your patience and skills with a camera!>
He usually just sticks the smaller of the two arms out and picks stuff of the rocks.
<Yep, it’s one of those “form follows function” things. That’s a perfect little claw for delicate picking. The other claw looks capable of taking on larger items, or it could be mainly used in defense/dominance displays, attracting a mate, or a combination of all of the above. I just don’t know.>
I will try to take some more pictures tonight.
<Thanks! If you can, I sure would appreciate it. I really need to see the overall shape of the top of the carapace (looking straight down on it) and to confirm the number of walking legs on each side (are there 3 or 4?). One thing for sure is that it definitely is an interesting little thing. There aren’t all that many fully marine crabs (if yours is indeed a fully marine species) that have claws of such different size like that. You see it regularly in land and fiddler crabs, but not so much otherwise.>
I haven't confirmed yet, but I think I may have two or more now... I'm not sure where he came from, he was in my live rock when I got it. The live rock I used came into my local fish store when a customer traded it in for store credit. I'm assuming he had it in an established tank for some time but it could have also crawled into my LR while it was in the store.
<Yep, at this point it could have come from just about anywhere. That sort of thing happens all the time. No worries though, we’ll see what we can figure out! Take care, -Lynn>

Crab ID: Xanthid - 10/3/08
Dear crew (particularly Lynn!) --
<Hi there Jonathan, what can I do for you today?>
Just pulled out yet another hitchhiker crab from my live rock.
<Neat!>
Granted, this is old live rock that I've had for a while, so I'm a bit angry that there are still crabs coming out of it!
<It happens. Crabs are good at hiding and many are nocturnal so it’s easy for the small ones to go unnoticed.>
Oh well, it's better than everything being dead.
<Absolutely!>
Found this guy when I saw his arm come swinging out of his hole at a blue gudgeon goby of mine,
<Uh-oh!>
so I think I caught him at the right time!
<Yepper>
I believe, from the black claws and shape, that he's a Xanthid crab of some sorts.
<I agree. It does indeed look like a Xanthid of some sort. I took a close look at the photos you sent and saw little hairs on the crab’s legs. Unfortunately, that doesn’t narrow the choices down greatly, but with the hairs and the shape of the claws and carapace, it could be something in the genus Chlorodiella. Here’s an example:
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/reefs/guamimg/crustacea/xanthidae/Pages/Image7.html >
He's been banished to the refugium along with a gorilla crab I found not that long ago, so they can be cuddle buddies.
<Sounds good.>
Attached are a few photos.
<Thanks!>
Thanks,
Jonathan
<You’re very welcome. Take care, -Lynn>

Re: Crab ID: Xanthid - 10/4/08
<Hi there, Jon!>
That, to me, is 100% the crab, Lynn.
<Yay! I’m not 100% sure, but it’s at least fairly close. The problem with these guys is that the differences can be very slight between one genus/species and another. It can be anything from the number of spines on the side of the carapace to subtle differences in the claws, etc. You really need to have the specimen right in front of you to see all the pertinent little details. From what I could see in the photos, Chlorodiella looked the closest overall. The species in this genus have the same rather flattened “face” area, wide-spaced eyes, as well as the same general (blunt-ish) claws and carapace shape (with spines). What I haven’t seen in this genus is a species with spines on its claw arms like I see in yours. Unfortunately, there aren’t available photos for every species of crab, and new species are always coming up, so I just can’t be sure.>
I believe you hit the nail right on the head. The pictures are a bit dark mainly since I didn't bother to color correct for a snapshot of a crab, but the markings and everything on that crab in your example seems to be "it"!
<Yep, it’s close, anyway! Bottom line is that it’s definitely a Xanthid of some sort.>
Are Chlorodiella crabs usually pretty destructive in reef tanks (I would guess they are by the site of how big my boy was!)?
<That I don’t know. I’ve looked around, but can’t find any information regarding their diet. Since most crabs are omnivorous though and Xanthids tend to be carnivorous, you can bet that the larger these crabs get, the more threat they pose to fish, etc – not to mention the possibility of one rearranging your rockwork! You did a good thing getting him out of there!>
Thanks again for the ID.
- Jon
<It was my pleasure, Jon. Have a great weekend! –Lynn>

Re: Crab ID: Xanthid – 10/5/08
One further question, Lynn...
<Fire away, Jon :)>
Who are you taking in a fight: Gorilla crab VS Chlorodiella crab?
<Heheeee! Discounting the obvious home tank advantage for the Gorilla, I think it’s going to come down to weight class. I have a feeling that the newcomer (the Chlorodiella in the striped trunks) is probably a bit smaller/lighter than the resident Gorilla crab, so the advantage goes to the larger/heavier opponent. If, however, they’re both in the same weight class, the odds change. Both Xanthids would have similar reaches, reflex speeds, and fancy footwork potential, so as long as both are healthy and not in the middle of a molt, the odds would be fairly even. The good news is that if one looses an appendage in the “Rumble in the Refugium”, it’ll grow back within a couple of molts!>
I think I need to videotape this and put it on Pay-Per-View. Could generate more ratings than Kimbo Slice!
<Ahhh, if only!>
- Jon
<Enjoy! –Lynn>






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