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Articles:
Fresh to Brackish Crabs, Freshwater
Crustaceans, Invertebrates
for Freshwater Aquariums by Neale Monks,
Forget Crawfish Pie, Let's Make a
Crawfish Tank! By Gage Harford
Related FAQs: Freshwater
Crabs 1, Freshwater Crabs 2, & FAQs on:
FW Crab Identification,
FW Crab Behavior,
FW Crab Compatibility, FW Crab Selection,
FW Crab Feeding,
FW Crab Disease, FW Crab Reproduction,
& Fresh to
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FW Crustaceans 1, FW
Crustaceans 2, Terrestrial Hermit Crabs,
& Marine:
Hermit ID,
Hermit Behavior, Hermit
Compatibility, Hermit Selection,
Hermit Systems, Hermit Feeding,
Hermit Reproduction, Hermit
Disease/Health, &
Crayfish FAQs,
Crayfish 2,
Crayfish ID,
Crayfish Behavior,
Crayfish Compatibility,
Crayfish Selection,
Crayfish Systems,
Crayfish Feeding,
Crayfish Disease,
Crayfish Reproduction,
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unknown crab, terr.
4/19/09
Hello,
I hope you can shed some light on my current dilemma and give me a
few pointers and how to take care of this beautiful crab I rescued
today. I received a call from a friend that works at PetCo. He says
"I have this
awesome crab that someone just dropped off in a bucket and have no
idea what to do with it. Do you want it?" Of course being the lover
of all God's creatures that I am, I said "Yes". Keep in mind, I have
zero idea what I have or how to care for it.
<Usually not difficult with crabs. They need something very similar
to what you'd offer frogs or newts: shallow pool of water to bathe
in; lots of damp moss and rock above the water; a source of warmth;
and an enclosure with a tight lid so they can't escape. Virtually
none of the species in the trade is aquatic, and all will spend most
of the time on land.>
I have six fish tanks, all freshwater and no crab experience. I have
searched the web to find not much info. It looks a lot like a soap
dish crab, same basic shape, but this one I have is so awesome in
color. Not
plain reddish/brown like the pics I have seen online. One call I
made said possibly a Thai Devil crab. I am attaching a photo. It is
female, I do know that much.
<Very likely a Cardisoma species of some sort, so basically similar
to the Soap Dish Crab in terms of being terrestrial, largely
herbivorous, and highly aggressive.>
She is currently in a 20g tall tank with a mix of gravel and crushed
coral.
<It's a land crab. You can easily tell land crabs from underwater
crabs.
Land crabs have tall, boxy bodies. They have that shape to make
space for the structures that effectively function as their lungs.
By contrast underwater crabs are usually more flattened so they are
streamlined and not pushed over by water currents. Another good clue
is the back pair of legs; on underwater crabs these are usually
flattened into swimmerets, basically paddled; on land crabs they are
pointed, just like the walking legs.>
I have a submersible filter running and I have some rocks she can
climb out onto so that she isn't constantly submerged and have given
a healthy dose of aquarium salt.
<Not a brackish water species, so far as I know. I'd certainly not
keep her in an aquatic environment. Honestly, she's a land animal.>
I read in a several of the forums that I may need to get iodine
supplements and some different salts. Does she need a heater?
<Yes.>
Anyway, so far she seems to prefer being under the surface for the
most part. Every now and again she pops up out of the water just far
enough to inhale through her "nose" and immediately exhales through
her back side. I want to absolutely do right by her as she has
obviously had a decent life so far. Can't imagine someone just
bailing on her as they did today. She is fairly good sized with her
body being about 2.5" across. Many thanks in advance for whatever
info you can help me with.
Quick
<Read up on Cardisoma species, and keep in the same basic way. These
animals like damp, but terrestrial, habitats and feed extensively on
soft fruits, dead animals, etc. Couple of inches of filtered water
ample. Iodine supplements are useful. Cheers, Neale.>
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Re: unknown crab 4/19/09
Neale,
Thank you so much for the super fast reply.
<Happy to help.>
Beautiful isn't she?
<And how!>
We are just amazed at her colors. I am real concerned about taking
care of this crab. Ok, just a couple more questions. Is the 20 tall
big enough?
<Should be ample, especially if you use lots of bogwood or whatever
to create places to climb.>
I have a 55g that has a crack in the bottom that is not being used.
Or is that overkill?
<I'm sure the crab would love that tank, but why not keep things
simple and inexpensive for now?>
Is the gravel and crushed coral ok or should I get a bunch of moss
instead?
Or both?
<Either. These animals aren't at all fussy. Wild animals burrow into
mud.
They burrow into the mud along river banks a lot, so if they can
dig, that's great. Here are the things that matter: Firstly, that
you can clean the tank out easily. Some folks find "disposable"
media like coconut fibre
the ideal in this regard, simply cleaning it all out before it gets
smelly.
Other folks prefer substrates they can clean every couple of weeks.
Either is fine. What matters more are [a] a hiding place; and [b]
humidity. Provided they have these things, they really aren't
fussed. So a cave or
hollow ornament or whatever where they can hunker down periodically
is useful, and as for humidity, a plastic drip tray or even a
regular hood should take care of that. Within these restrictions, be
creative!>
I have made her a larger land area by making a plateau out of the
gravel and siphoning out some of the water out. Seems to work ok
with the filter still circulating all the water through the raised
gravel area. She wants nothing to do with the "land" area and dives
right back into the water.
<Really? That's odd. Well, since I don't recognise the crab to
species level, let your observations be your guide. She certainly
should have land, but if she's nervous or otherwise fussed about
something, she will feel
more secure under water. Start off with a 50/50 mix of land and
water, and see how you go.>
Maybe that's just what she is used to. I hollowed out a spot in the
gravel so there is just a shallow pool. She is staying there for the
moment. As far as heat, get a heat rock?
<I'd recommend an undertank heating mat as being a lot easier to use
in this context.>
Of course that would require a real land area wouldn't it.
<Indeed. You may find that if the water area is big enough, heating
the water, and allowing the warmed air to circulate, will do the
trick. Really depends on how cold the air is in your part of the
world. If you're in
Southern California or somewhere with a subtropical climate, merely
warming the water would be adequate. Elsewhere, you really want to
heat up the whole enclosure.>
Again, I really appreciate your input.
Quick
<Cheers, Neale.>
Re: unknown crab 4/20/09
Neale,
You are awesome.
<Modesty forbids...>
We live in Texas, usually around 74, 75 in the house all year round.
Should be warm enough I'd think. She ate a nice piece of cantaloupe
while we were making breakfast. I feel much better now that she has
eaten something.
Here's a link to a site I found helpful as well.
http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Bugs,%20Patriot%20Crab.htm
<Have to confess that this isn't one of my favourite sites; while it
has a page on just about everything, it also contains myriad errors
and the writers seem to have a slap-dash approach to healthcare and
animal welfare.
They seem to offer feeder fish to just about everything, which to me
is a massive alarm bell that rings "bad fishkeeping".>
We will stick to the 20t for now as I am going to "give" the crab to
one of our 12 year old twins. You are of course correct concerning
manageability compared to the 55g. The other twin is getting a hand
tame pair of
Fischer's lovebirds to "take care of". We all know how that works
don't we?
<Indeed... an issue I've commented on here before; by all means
share animals with children, but if any parent believes their child
will genuinely shoulder all the work (and expense) they're likely to
be in for a
surprise.>
Should be fair, we hope...
Again, thank you. We will let ya know how we progress. Have a
blessed day.
<I do hope so! And to you, too.>
Quick
<Cheers, Neale.>
Re: unknown crab, fdg.,
sys., beh. 4/22/09
Neale,
I was mistaken when I said that the crab had eaten a nice piece of
cantaloupe.
<Banana! Land crabs seem to love banana, the softer the better! Also
try small pieces of white fish, ideally lancefish, which you can buy
in pet shops. These have bones in them, and the calcium there is
excellent for the crabs. Unshelled prawns, perhaps sliced along the
middle to make things easier, are also a good source of calcium.
Crabs are scavengers, and generally eat anything that's soft or
meaty.>
My wife had removed it as it was getting a bit smelly. The crab has
not eaten anything since we got her and has seemingly become very
weak.
<Review air temperature and humidity; these are essentially like
frogs in terms of care, and cold, dry air does them no good at all.
Turning the heater up in the water side of the tank can create more
warm, humid
conditions in the land side of the tank. Likewise, keeping the lid
more firmly secured will help, too.>
She has not moved much in the past 2 days. Maybe she's getting ready
to molt.
<You can actually check this: before they moult, crustaceans absorb
extra water. When picked up, you may notice they've both bulked up
and yet the shell is softer than normal, and may even yield a bit to
the touch. They feel less heavy for their size that you'd expect (a
tip you using when buying edible crabs, by the way). While the
following link refers to Land Hermits, in terms of generalities, it
would hold true for Land Crabs too:
http://hermit-crabs.com/molting.html
So, prior to moulting, the crab will puff up, become softer, tend to
hide away from light, and generally become inactive. Moulting starts
with the exoskeleton unzipping, and the crab sort of backs out of
its shell,
tail-end first.>
I hope so. We would not feel like very good stewards if she dies.
<I understand!>
Already lost one pet this week :-( One of our Fischer's lovebirds
had a seizure and died in my hands.
<Oh, sorry to hear that.>
Of course, I have zero history on the crab. Have tried feeding her a
variety of foods to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Quick
<Cheers, Neale.>
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FW Crabs
Hello again. Thanks for taking a look at my letter. I have a few more
questions for you. Using the German crab ID page I found on your site, I have
determined that my soap dish crab is the third Thai fresh water crab they have
listed, it looks just like my little Carl, right down to the dark zig-zags on
his appendages. It says it is of the Demanietta species, but that seems to
include a lot of different looking crabs. How can I narrow it down further?
< Do a Google search on the web using the Demanietta species you have already
found. That should get you closer to a correct ID.>
Anyways, I've started adding iodine to all my crab tanks. How often should I add
the drop? daily?
< Add the drop of iodine every time you change water.>
The water I use is well-water with a softener. If this is no good, what type of
water should I use? Would adding some sea shells add calcium to the water?
< All crabs like brackish water. I would use the softened well water but add
some sea salt and micronutrients at about 1/3 to 1/2 the dosage recommended for
salt water.>
I know the fiddlers prefer brackish water, does Carl need some salinity also?
< You bet.>
Should I change the water to brackish?
< The sooner the better.>
Would his feeder minnows tolerate the salt?
< They are pretty tolerant to salt and would probably do OK.>
He has not molted since I have had him, but I just figured he was big enough
that he only molted once a year. Am I incorrect with this assumption?
< Sounds like a pretty safe assumption.>
How big is this guy supposed to get, anyway? What is this creatures lifespan?
well, thanks in advance, Scott
< They usually get about 2 to three inches across the body and will probably
live between 2 and 5 years depending on how old Carl was when he was
caught.-Chuck>
Bettas and brackish
This question is threefold, but background first.
I have a two-year running planted tank with just about the easiest to grow
plants in them (hornwort and Cabomba weeds) and a Betta (who is in heaven). Ten
gallons, inexpensive waterfall-type filtration turned all the way down to keep
the water filtered but generally undisturbed at the surface, temperature at
82-84F, full spectrum lighting (as I pretty much used to use it as a
plant-isolation tank to get the snails out of them... used to have a swarm of
apple snails, which has since stabilized as the Betta tends to eat the egg sacs
and young snails... basically anything he could fit in his mouth). It was my
first foray into plants and gave me the knowledge I needed to go into planting
my goldfish tanks.
<Outstanding>
I am now interested in getting some (generally) bottom-dwelling small crabs, and
according to the research I have done, while they can tolerate freshwater
(poorly), they prefer brackish.
<Most of the species sold in the trade, yes>
I've done research into setting up a brackish system and I feel ready for
it. I've also been briefed in the requirements of the types of crabs I'm
considering (but will eventually settle on a single pair of a single type, most
likely the small red-clawed crabs) and feel ready to meet them.
<Okay>
Question one is: Can the Betta tolerate a brackish or
slightly-less-than-brackish salinity?
<Yes... as can the hornwort/Ceratophyllum... but the Cabomba may well do its
falling apart act>
I'd like to keep him (I got him as a fry and know he is around 19 months of age
now) where he is, and possibly just slowly up the salinity to desired levels to
get him used to it, as well as letting the microorganism population adapt to the
change.
<Good technique>
Question two: Would the Betta be socially compatible with these scavengers? He
generally will sleep on the plants and I've almost never seen him sleep on the
gravel (I work nights, and keep the room dark on my nights off, so I have
observed him during the 'night' part of his cycle).
<The Betta should not harm the crabs, but the reverse may well not be so...
almost all crabs are opportunistic omnivores... and if hungry, might attack,
consume the Betta>
Question three: Answered on your brackish plants page, no, the plants will
stick around.
Thank you,
Dan
<Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
Crabby Crab? Sabrina Has Crab Envy! - 09/03/2005
Just bought an apparently Yellow Moon crab from the local garden centre.
<Research prior to purchase, next time.... I'm impressed, I suspect you have
Geothelphusa albogilva. This animal is currently unobtainable in the US.>
Guy said it was ok in my tank with 3 goldfish which are very big.
<Likely untrue.>
Got the heater for him and the right food etc.
<Goldfish are coldwater, shouldn't be heated.>
He seems to want to get out of the tank all the time, life seems one big
struggle to climb to the top and spend some quality time out of the water on top
of the heater or filter system.
<Yup, this and all other crabs available in the freshwater hobby absolutely
require a land mass with hiding space - these are land animals that spend some
time in the water. Geothelphusa albogilva is more terrestrial than
anything. At least the animal is actually freshwater. I sure wish we got
critters like that in the hobby in the US.>
Can't find any info on these crabs
<Not much out there, from a husbandry point of view - treat this like any other
terrestrial semi-aquatic crab.... Give it a large land mass of several inches
of sand and wood/leaf debris, with a great deal of cover/hiding and a few
gallons of clean, circulating freshwater.>
and worried I'm not looking after him right. Can you give me any advice on
making sure he has good quality of life?
<Just as above - this is an animal worth accommodating.>
Would really appreciate your help and comments.
<I'd absolutely LOVE some images of this animal.... please.... if you have time
and a camera. I have crab envy.>
Kind regards, Joanna
<Wishing you and your new decapod well, -Sabrina>
Crabby Crab? Sabrina Has Crab Envy! - II - 09/07/2005
God I feel so naive.....just thought I was buying a funny cute looking crab
to live next to my computer and look nice. Guess I was major uninformed.
<No worries.... The fact that you are seeking information is wonderful.>
Didn't realize I had something unusual! Please excuse my ignorance.
<Again, no worries.>
I am a total animal lover and now dead worried this poor little creature is not
getting the right life. I will transfer him to another tank and somehow arrange
land for him to rest on and water when he needs it. How come I can easily buy
him here and you can't over there?
<I have never heard of Geothelphusa offered for sale anywhere.... But Europe
and the UK always tend to get "new" critters a few years prior to the US. There
are many shrimp and crabs available in Europe that I'd do a great deal to get my
hands on! I suppose I shall just remain patient....>
I will take some pictures of him and send them to you...
<Much appreciated! I would very much like to see if this is in fact the crab I
think it is.>
again excuse my ignorance as a first time crab owner but what's the interest?
He's not yellow or looks like he's from the moon haha, just a small baby crab
that's whitish in colour and likes sitting on the heater.
<Once in a proper environment, I suspect you'll find him much more
interesting. The interest, to me, is that I have quite a passion/fascination
with invertebrates, especially crabs and shrimp.... the interest with
Geothelphusa, to me, is that they don't or shouldn't require saltwater
access.... If there were more truely freshwater land crabs available in the
hobby, folks would be more easily able to care for them properly, which is one
of my main desires....>
Guess I'm entering a whole new dimension I didn't know existed out there.
<Invertebrates are really amazing animals!>
Would love to chat more, thanks for replying so quick.
<You bet. Sorry for the delay in this response; I've been traveling a bit.>
Where about in the US are you?
<In California.... In the Santa Cruz mountains. Beautiful place.>
I'm over in UK in Yorkshire - God's Country.
<Sounds excellent!>
Best regards, Joanna
<Wishing you and your crabby pal well, -Sabrina>
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Crabby Conversion? - 08/07/2005
Can saltwater crabs adapt to fresh water?
<Unfortunately, no. Thanks for writing in! -Sabrina>
Halloween Land Crab – 03/17/07
Hi, thank you for taking the time to read this. I have what the pet store
called a Halloween Land Crab.
<Gercarcinus sp., maybe G. lateralis.>
He is not set up in some amazing aquarium, he is just in a plastic cage. I
have a water dish for him that's 2 inches deep that he climbs in and out
of. The bottom of the cage is filled with calcium sand and aquarium
pebbles.
<Ideally, he needs a sand substrate deep enough and just damp enough to
burrow into, and needs enough saltwater and enough freshwater, each in
separate containers, deep enough to fully submerge himself - though the land
area is by far the most important.>
He has been doing really well eating bits of fruit such as apples, oranges,
pineapple and also an occasional guppy.
<Needs more meaty foods, preferably things like human-consumption shrimp
(raw, frozen and then thawed) and fish; krill, meaty fish foods, and also
Nori (seaweed) would be other important foods.>
But recently three of his legs fell off on his right side! What is going
on?
<Likely he is very deficient in something that he needs - saltwater,
perhaps, or iodine.... Feeding the foods mentioned above, especially
shrimp, krill, and Nori which are rich in iodine, will be very
important. Supplementing the food with a reptile calcium supplement will be
helpful, as well.>
He was not in a fight with another crab and I've never experienced him going
through the "shedding process"! Is he unhappy or sick? How can I tell what's
going on?
<sounds like a state of disease, not a normal molting situation at
all.... I would urge you to improve this critter's living space and food.>
If this is below what you guys do, then I'm sorry to waste your time,
<A question is never a waste of time.>
I just need simple answers and can't seem to find them anywhere.
<Thank you very much for searching for your answers, and for asking
questions.>
Nick
<All the best to you, -Sabrina>
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