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FAQs on Freshwater Crab Identification

Related Articles: Fresh to Brackish CrabsFreshwater CrustaceansInvertebrates for Freshwater Aquariums by Neale Monks, Forget Crawfish Pie, Let's Make a Crawfish Tank! By Gage Harford

Related FAQs: Freshwater Crabs 1, Freshwater Crabs 2, & FAQs on: FW Crab Behavior, FW Crab Compatibility, FW Crab Selection, FW Crab Systems, FW Crab Feeding, FW Crab Disease, FW Crab Reproduction, & Fresh to Brackish Water Crabs, FW Crustaceans 1FW Crustaceans 2, Terrestrial Hermit Crabs, & Marine: Hermit ID, Hermit Behavior, Hermit Compatibility, Hermit Selection, Hermit Systems, Hermit Feeding, Hermit Reproduction, Hermit Disease/Health, & Crayfish FAQs, Crayfish 2, Crayfish ID, Crayfish Behavior, Crayfish Compatibility, Crayfish Selection, Crayfish Systems, Crayfish Feeding, Crayfish Disease, Crayfish Reproduction,

unknown crab, terr. 4/19/09
Hello,
I hope you can shed some light on my current dilemma and give me a few pointers and how to take care of this beautiful crab I rescued today. I received a call from a friend that works at PetCo. He says "I have this awesome crab that someone just dropped off in a bucket and have no idea what to do with it. Do you want it?" Of course being the lover of all God's creatures that I am, I said "Yes". Keep in mind, I have zero idea what I have or how to care for it.
<Usually not difficult with crabs. They need something very similar to what you'd offer frogs or newts: shallow pool of water to bathe in; lots of damp moss and rock above the water; a source of warmth; and an enclosure with a tight lid so they can't escape. Virtually none of the species in the trade is aquatic, and all will spend most of the time on land.>
I have six fish tanks, all freshwater and no crab experience. I have searched the web to find not much info. It looks a lot like a soap dish crab, same basic shape, but this one I have is so awesome in color. Not
plain reddish/brown like the pics I have seen online. One call I made said possibly a Thai Devil crab. I am attaching a photo. It is female, I do know that much.
<Very likely a Cardisoma species of some sort, so basically similar to the Soap Dish Crab in terms of being terrestrial, largely herbivorous, and highly aggressive.>
She is currently in a 20g tall tank with a mix of gravel and crushed coral.
<It's a land crab. You can easily tell land crabs from underwater crabs.
Land crabs have tall, boxy bodies. They have that shape to make space for the structures that effectively function as their lungs. By contrast underwater crabs are usually more flattened so they are streamlined and not pushed over by water currents. Another good clue is the back pair of legs; on underwater crabs these are usually flattened into swimmerets, basically paddled; on land crabs they are pointed, just like the walking legs.>
I have a submersible filter running and I have some rocks she can climb out onto so that she isn't constantly submerged and have given a healthy dose of aquarium salt.
<Not a brackish water species, so far as I know. I'd certainly not keep her in an aquatic environment. Honestly, she's a land animal.>
I read in a several of the forums that I may need to get iodine supplements and some different salts. Does she need a heater?
<Yes.>
Anyway, so far she seems to prefer being under the surface for the most part. Every now and again she pops up out of the water just far enough to inhale through her "nose" and immediately exhales through her back side. I want to absolutely do right by her as she has obviously had a decent life so far. Can't imagine someone just bailing on her as they did today. She is fairly good sized with her body being about 2.5" across. Many thanks in advance for whatever info you can help me with.
Quick
<Read up on Cardisoma species, and keep in the same basic way. These animals like damp, but terrestrial, habitats and feed extensively on soft fruits, dead animals, etc. Couple of inches of filtered water ample. Iodine supplements are useful. Cheers, Neale.>

Re: unknown crab 4/19/09
Neale,
Thank you so much for the super fast reply.
<Happy to help.>
Beautiful isn't she?
<And how!>
We are just amazed at her colors. I am real concerned about taking care of this crab. Ok, just a couple more questions. Is the 20 tall big enough?
<Should be ample, especially if you use lots of bogwood or whatever to create places to climb.>
I have a 55g that has a crack in the bottom that is not being used. Or is that overkill?
<I'm sure the crab would love that tank, but why not keep things simple and inexpensive for now?>
Is the gravel and crushed coral ok or should I get a bunch of moss instead?
Or both?
<Either. These animals aren't at all fussy. Wild animals burrow into mud.
They burrow into the mud along river banks a lot, so if they can dig, that's great. Here are the things that matter: Firstly, that you can clean the tank out easily. Some folks find "disposable" media like coconut fibre
the ideal in this regard, simply cleaning it all out before it gets smelly.
Other folks prefer substrates they can clean every couple of weeks. Either is fine. What matters more are [a] a hiding place; and [b] humidity. Provided they have these things, they really aren't fussed. So a cave or hollow ornament or whatever where they can hunker down periodically is useful, and as for humidity, a plastic drip tray or even a regular hood should take care of that. Within these restrictions, be creative!>
I have made her a larger land area by making a plateau out of the gravel and siphoning out some of the water out. Seems to work ok with the filter still circulating all the water through the raised gravel area. She wants nothing to do with the "land" area and dives right back into the water.
<Really? That's odd. Well, since I don't recognise the crab to species level, let your observations be your guide. She certainly should have land, but if she's nervous or otherwise fussed about something, she will feel more secure under water. Start off with a 50/50 mix of land and water, and see how you go.>
Maybe that's just what she is used to. I hollowed out a spot in the gravel so there is just a shallow pool. She is staying there for the moment. As far as heat, get a heat rock?
<I'd recommend an undertank heating mat as being a lot easier to use in this context.>
Of course that would require a real land area wouldn't it.
<Indeed. You may find that if the water area is big enough, heating the water, and allowing the warmed air to circulate, will do the trick. Really depends on how cold the air is in your part of the world. If you're in
Southern California or somewhere with a subtropical climate, merely warming the water would be adequate. Elsewhere, you really want to heat up the whole enclosure.>
Again, I really appreciate your input.
Quick
<Cheers, Neale.>

Re: unknown crab 4/20/09
Neale,
You are awesome.
<Modesty forbids...>
We live in Texas, usually around 74, 75 in the house all year round. Should be warm enough I'd think. She ate a nice piece of cantaloupe while we were making breakfast. I feel much better now that she has eaten something.
Here's a link to a site I found helpful as well.
http://aqualandpetsplus.com/Bugs,%20Patriot%20Crab.htm
<Have to confess that this isn't one of my favourite sites; while it has a page on just about everything, it also contains myriad errors and the writers seem to have a slap-dash approach to healthcare and animal welfare.
They seem to offer feeder fish to just about everything, which to me is a massive alarm bell that rings "bad fishkeeping".>
We will stick to the 20t for now as I am going to "give" the crab to one of our 12 year old twins. You are of course correct concerning manageability compared to the 55g. The other twin is getting a hand tame pair of
Fischer's lovebirds to "take care of". We all know how that works don't we?
<Indeed... an issue I've commented on here before; by all means share animals with children, but if any parent believes their child will genuinely shoulder all the work (and expense) they're likely to be in for a
surprise.>
Should be fair, we hope...
Again, thank you. We will let ya know how we progress. Have a blessed day.
<I do hope so! And to you, too.>
Quick
<Cheers, Neale.>

Re: unknown crab  04/23/09
She did not make it Neale. We are very sad. Thank you for all your help, it does not go unappreciated...
<Sorry to hear that. Sometimes the best is all you can do, but that's not enough... Good luck next time, Neale.>

Freshwater Invertebrates, ID?
Hey guys I am trying to ID a crab that is appearing more and more frequently in Australian stores. It has been incorrectly identified by several stores as Amarinus lacustris (Freshwater spider crab). I suspect the supplier is keeping this myth alive *lol Anyway, the crab in question is often referred to as a "brown backed crab". Orange/brown body with a chocolate brown H symbol on its shell. claws of equal size and quite heavy set, not long/slender. It seems to get to about 2" shell width. I would LOVE to know the scientific name for this little beauty, as although I am sure I could keep it happy using general crab knowledge, it would be nice to know its specifics. Sincerely, Abbey AKA Callatya
<Hey there, sorry it took me forever! 
http://www.fishprofiles.net/files/~adam/tanks.htm 
Right down the bottom of that page is a front-on view of that crab. I asked a large pet store and they said they are buying them under the name Holthuisana agassizi.  I cannot for the life of me find any reference to this species online, so I thought maybe, just maybe, you guys might have more references that I have access too.
Thanks for your help!
< I have seen this crab at wholesalers referred to as "red clawed crabs" from Asia. Try looking in the internet under that name to see if you can find more info. -Chuck>

Red Claw Crab
<Hi Anthony, MacL here. The only red claw crab I know of is actually a brackish crab often sold for freshwater. Is this what you have?> I purchased a red claw crab from a local Fish store about 2 weeks ago. I believe the crab is a female due to the very small claws.  Anyway, recently she has had her abdomen hanging open. <Maybe releasing eggs?> I figure she was getting ready to molt, but she hasn't done anything for 2 days now.
She has already molted once since we have had her and it didn't take long.  She has plenty of different kinds of food.  Also these past 2 days she is flipping herself over on her back. <Not a really good sign.>  Can you tell me what is wrong? <I'm just guessing here but I think you probably have her in fresh water and she needs some salt. I also think it might be a difference in PH as well.>  I have searched through the internet, but cannot find any information on Red Claw Crabs.  <I did a search on Google and came up with tons of thing on them.  You might try www.google.com> Thank you for your time and patience. <Anthony you might do the research on them and decide if it needs to be in brackish water or not and make a decision from there.>
Anthony <An excellent site re this species: http://wrongcrowd.com/aquaria/crab/ RMF>

FW Crabs
Hello again. Thanks for taking a look at my letter. I have a few more questions for you. Using the German crab ID page I found on your site, I have determined that my soap dish crab is the third Thai fresh water crab they have listed, it looks just like my little Carl, right down to the dark zig-zags on his appendages. It says it is of the Demanietta species, but that seems to include a lot of different looking crabs. How can I narrow it down further?
< Do a Google search on the web using the Demanietta species you have already found. That should get you closer to a correct ID.>
Anyways, I've started adding iodine to all my crab tanks. How often should I add the drop? daily?
< Add the drop of iodine every time you change water.>
The water I use is well-water with a softener. If this is no good, what type of water should I use? Would adding some sea shells add calcium to the water?
< All crabs like brackish water. I would use the softened well water but add some sea salt and micronutrients at about 1/3 to 1/2 the dosage recommended for salt water.>
I know the fiddlers prefer brackish water, does Carl need some salinity also?
< You bet.>
Should I change the water to brackish?
< The sooner the better.>
Would his feeder minnows tolerate the salt?
< They are pretty tolerant to salt and would probably do OK.>
He has not molted since I have had him, but I just figured he was big enough that he only molted once a year. Am I incorrect with this assumption?
< Sounds like a pretty safe assumption.>
How big is this guy supposed to get, anyway? What is this creatures lifespan?
well, thanks in advance, Scott
< They usually get about 2 to three inches across the body and will probably live between 2 and 5 years depending on how old Carl was when he was caught.-Chuck> 

Crabby Confusion - Playing With Common Names - 10/11/2004
I recently ran across a Red Thai Crab in my LFS.  
<Hui.  With so little English information on crabs offered in the aquarium trade, I fear "Red Thai Crab" is just about as descriptive as "Small, colorful fish" to describe a neon tetra....  Not your fault at all, just the fact of the matter.>
I have never seen one before.  It was huge and in fresh water, and obviously red.  
<Well, red helps quite a bit.  Getting' some ideas, at least.>
I have no idea what the scientific name might be,
<Sad.  But not unexpected.  I haven't seen a single crab available for sale with a Latin name for a label.>
and my search on the internet has proven well, let's just say made me hungry, I can now prepare crab 100 different ways.
<Great!  You can come make dinner, then!  ;) >
Now the meat of the email.  
<The crabmeat, as it were.>
I have a brackish water tank with a Snowflake eel, a dragon fish, and some Sailfin mollies.  I would like to add one of these crabs to the tank but......  I have no idea if it is truly a freshwater crab and more importantly will it eat my eel and dragon fish.
<Well, let's try to explore *what* this crab is.  Also, a tank size would be of some assistance - also, I'd like to drop a bit of a hint that your eel may prefer saltwater as it matures.>
Does it require a spot to get out of the water on occasion?  The size of the crab was a good 4 inches, could be bigger it was busy moving a large rock in the tank.  
<Alrighty....  You say "obviously red", easily 4", and sounds like a bruiser to be redecorating his digs.  My first, best guess is Gecarcinus ruricola (possibly the genus name is spelled 'Gercacinus'....)  Please see here: http://www.wirbellose.de/arten.cgi?action=show&artNo=115 .  I have seen this species offered for sale quite a few times, now.  Some problems with this animal - and *especially* in keeping it in an aquarium - to my understanding, this crab, surprisingly, is not very aquatic.  In the wild, it rarely enters the water, and instead gets its moisture mostly from humidity in the air.  To keep it totally submerged is a short life sentence.  It should be kept in a terrarium with enough water available to be fully submerged should it choose to do so (for instance, low humidity).  The water available can be plain ol' freshwater, but I think it might be prudent to offer a separate container of brackish water, as well.  If I recall correctly, this crab gets big - roughly an eight inch leg span - and though not horrifically aggressive, I'm sure it would willingly pick off small fishes or land animals.  Feed with aquatic meats, also non-citrus fruits and veggies should be offered.  There is an Aqualog book by Uwe Werner available that has a (small) section on this crab.>
My eel is about 18-19 inches long (of pure hunger) and the dragon fish is about 13 inches (odd fish there), neat how that fish eats.
<Neat indeed!>
Also I just bought a 150 gallon tank for my brackish system (have not changed it over from the 55 yet) Just how big will that Snowflake eel get?
<Big.  Quite big.  I urge you to see here:  http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwmorayeels.htm  and make use of http://www.fishbase.org as well.  As you will see, much is dependant upon specifically what fish you have.  Whatever your eel is, a 150 should be adequate; it's mostly just a matter of determining what kind of water it will need as it grows.>
It was only like 5 inches long when I bought it and it just grows and grows and grows, oh and it eats and eats and eats, I love it.
<Glad to hear it.  Amazing animals, aren't they?>
Thanks you guys for any info you can give me.
<Please do write back if you wish, especially if my guess on the crab in question was off - a very detailed description of color, placement and size of the eyes (widely spaced? long eyestalks?), whether one claw is significantly larger than the other, and any details you can muster will help.  And, of course, a picture is worth a thousand words!  Otherwise, you might be able to ID the feller here:  http://www.wirbellose.de/arten.html#Krabben .>
Craig in Peoria ILL
<Wishing you and your fantastic fishes well,  -Sabrina in Boulder Creek, CA>

A Sesarma By Any Other Name.... Would Be A Pseudosesarma 10/26/2004
Hi guys...
<And gals.  Sabrina-the-freshwater-invert-freak at your service.>
We need your help.
<Well, what d'y'know, that's what we're here for!  Hope to help you out.>
We have been getting conflicting information on our RCC.
<For our readers, that's "Red Claw/ed Crab", or as you've mentioned in your subject line, Sesarma bidens....  Actually, this animal is now thought to be more accurately Pseudosesarma moeshi.  Just a fun tidbit.>
One thing that everyone seems to agree on, is that RCCs are brilliant escape artists.
<True.  Most (all?) crabs are.>
However, when we have been trying to research as to whether they actually NEED to breathe air half of the answers are yes, the other half are no.
<Mm, not so much that they need to "breathe" air (all land crabs use gills and require high humidity - even hermit crabs, which carry a bit of ocean in their shell!), but yes, they absolutely *require* a land mass to thrive.  They will not last long, forced to be fully submerged....  Or worse, fully submerged in a freshwater aquarium, as they are unfortunately sold to be.  In addition to their need to get out of the water, they also fare much better with some salt in the water.  Doesn't need to be much, but they do much better with a bit of salinity.>
Could you please set the record straight for us?
<Land mass required, yes.  Most definitely.  It will live for a time fully submerged, but will not thrive, and will not live long.>
We don't want the little guy to die, but we don't want him to escape either.
<Any chance you could drop the water level a few to several inches and offer a good-sized land mass (even a very large piece of floating wood) with lots of nooks and crannies to hide?  This would likely be sufficient.  I suspect that the reason they are so renowned for escaping is simply that they are desperate to find a way out of the *water*, not the *aquarium*.  All the same, a tight-fitting lid is definitely called for.  Do please try to accommodate this animal rather than returning him; you will be greatly rewarded with a fascinating pet, with just a little work.  Perhaps even a small, 10-gallon tank as a dedicated home for him and an opposite-gender pal?>
Thanks so much,
<You betcha.  I really hope you choose to make this work out - these are fun critters.>
- Ian Fenn
<Wishing you and your crab well, -Sabrina>

A Sesarma By Any Other Name.... II - 10/30/2004
Hello again, Gurus of Aquaria!
<Well hello!>
Thanks so much for your Red Clawed crab-help Sabrina. We finally found someone/place that knows what they are talking about!
<Heh, or at least we *hope* we do!  So glad to have been of service.>
We were wondering if we could please have some help with our cichlid tank now.
<Whups, not me....  I am cichlid-ignorant, for the most part.  Chuck, our mega-awesome cichlid master is in possession of a duplicate email; hopefully he'll give you the answers that you seek.  I'll truncate this now, and give you a big hearty "Thanks!" for all the kind words.  Wishing you well,  -Sabrina>
 

Mystery Crab - 04/06/2004 
Hey guys 
<Sabrina the freshwater crusty-freak here!> 
I am trying to ID a crab that is appearing more and more frequently in Australian stores. It has been incorrectly identified by several stores as Amarinus lacustris (Freshwater spider crab). I suspect the supplier is keeping this myth alive *lol 
<Yeah, frankly, I'm still confused on that subject. Here's the only photo/info I've been able to locate on the web about this poorly documented little beast: http://www.nzfreshwater.org/crustacea.html  (scroll down) and http://www.dlwc.nsw.gov.au/care/wetlands/facts/paa/plants/emergent.html  (scroll down to "Cotula coronopifolia - Waterbuttons").> 
Anyway, the crab in question is often referred to as a "brown backed crab". Orange/brown body with a chocolate brown H symbol on its shell. claws of equal size and quite heavy set, not long/slender. It seems to get to about 2" shell width. 
<Any chance you can snap a pic of this guy to aid in ID'ing him? The following two sources may help you: http://www.wirbellose.de/arten.html#Krabben and 
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/arthropoda/crabs/swcrabs.htm

I would LOVE to know the scientific name for this little beauty, 
<Me, too! I've looked through everything that I have to look through, but without a picture to go off, it's pretty tough to try to find a good ID. I would very much like to see what your fellah looks like!> 
as although I am sure I could keep it happy using general crab knowledge, it would be nice to know its specifics. 
<Agreed. Always best to know what your animals need - and crabs are pretty diverse.> 
Sincerely, Abbey AKA Callatya 
<Hope to hear back. -Sabrina>
FW crab from down under info.
Hi,
This isn't a question - I just happened across your website and noticed a question someone asked about Amarinus lacustris - a genuinely freshwater crab found in S.E. Australia.  Here is a photo if you are interested.  Its about 6-7mm across the carapace.  Although I am no expert, I'm happy to answer any queries anyone might have, although you were quite right in your reply - there is little info available.  It would be illegal to attempt to export this animal.
<Thank you for this input. Will post on WWM. Bob Fenner>

Answer to a mystery query (FW crab) 8/26/05
Bob:
<Actually, Sabrina with you, today>
In answer to Sabrina's question about the "red crab" on http://www.wetwebmedia.com/swcrabidfaq3.htm from 8/13/05, I believe I have the answer.
<My question??  Oh - OH!  I see.  Yes, that was in reference to the surrounding entries ("Mystery Crab") that I was helping Charlotte with.>
I too bought what the LFS was calling a "fire crab" (or so it sounded with his slightly different accent from mine) for my nano. I tried Googling this and found nothing. Mystified, I posted a pic of him on reefcentral.com
<I would love to see this image, if you can grab me a link.  If it IS an Uca/fiddler, I might be able to get it closer to a species, for yah.  Not necessarily likely, but there are some great references on the web.>
and still everyone was baffled. It was when I went to a different LFS that I realized what it is I and others are buying:  A female fiddler crab (my LFS who I thought was saying "fire crab" was actually saying "fiddler crab" but pronouncing it "FIDE-ler" and I misunderstood him).  Some LFS call them red crabs.  Again: orange, 1", walks sideways, black eyestalks, burrows in the sand.
<Does indeed sound like a fiddler/Uca sp., as far as burrowing goes.>
Mine has proven to be totally reef safe, hiding about 99.9% of her life. I've seen her for maybe a total of 60 seconds in 3 months! The females do not have the typical fiddler chelipeded and so look like something else.
<Correct/agreed.>
The problem with this is that fiddlers are supposed to be given a land/water environment, as they live in muddy mangrove patches and near the shoreline. Unfortunately, a few seem to find their way into the reef trade, and unwitting people like me and Sabrina wind up with them.
<Mm, again, 'twasn't me....  "I just work here" <grin>.  Though I do have a couple fiddlers....  but mine are in a large sandy terrarium with a 2g saltwater swimmin' hole.  They seem to be doing quite well.>
I'm sure she'd be happier in a terrarium, but she does just fine it seems in my nano reef.
<If possible, you might consider setting up a land crab system.  You wouldn't believe how much fun they are.>
Hope this helps!
<Thank you very much for this!  And again, I'd love to see an image of your crab, if possible.>
Alex
<Wishing you and your firely FIDEler well,  -Sabrina>

Mystery Crab (Again) - 09/01/2005
Hi Sabrina! First off, sorry to you and Charlotte for confusing you!
<Oh, no worries!>
Here are two pics of my crab when he was in my 5g. Hope they help!
<Mm, some, yes....  I still think this is an Uca (fiddler), and it *might* be Uca ecuadoriensis....  though I'm by no means certain.  A very cool little invert; thank you very much for letting us see the images!>
Alex
<Wishing you well,  -Sabrina><<Am moving this to the marine section, since fiddlers are marine....-SCF>>

Amarinus lacustris, ID, habitat of a FW Crab from down under  – 03/09/07
Can you tell me what "Myth" was being referred to here in the question in the following paragraphs? If I understand correctly the myth was concerning Amarinus lacustris. I have been trying to get a few specimens of Amarinus lacustris for a long time. I try to track down every lead but this one is  too cryptic for me to figure out what was being referred to this time..
Michael Hissom
Freshwater Invertebrates, ID?
Hey guys I am  trying to ID a crab that is appearing more and more frequently in Australian  stores. It has been incorrectly identified by several stores as Amarinus  lacustris (Freshwater spider crab). I suspect the supplier is keeping this myth  alive *lol Anyway, the crab in question is often referred to as a "brown backed  crab". Orange/brown body with a chocolate brown H symbol on its shell. claws of  equal size and quite heavy set, not long/slender. It seems to get to about 2"  shell width. I would LOVE to know the scientific name for this little beauty, as  although I am sure I could keep it happy using
general crab knowledge, it would  be nice to know its specifics. Sincerely, Abbey AKA  Callatya
<Mmm... well... this could be Amarinus... Please read here: http://www.google.com/search?q=Amarinus+lacustris&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7PCTA
... and am going to send your query to our resident FW crustacean expert, SabrinaF for her input. Bob Fenner>






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