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3 year old tiger Oscar, hlth., env.
-- 10/21/2009
Hi, my name is Shawna and I have a Tiger Oscar that is about 3 and a
half years old now. I cleaned my tank about a month ago<"Cleaned?"... as
in altogether? Better to not do this; but instead to change part of the
water out, clean the sides down, vacuum the gravel at weekly intervals>
and now my Oscar has been getting strange marks on him.
<Likely from a loss of nitrification (biological filtration capacity)>
At first, along the top of his body just underneath the top fin on both
sides, he was starting to look pale.
His stripes also started to become very pale and white in color, which
is usually caused from stress i thought. This went on for a few days and
then his eyes started to get very cloudy.
<Bad... burned>
This cleared up within a week and I started to think he was all better
now. Then i noticed where he used to be pale in color on his body, by
the top fin, he had a spot that had very minimal peeling and now his
scales seemed to be a bit swelled. It has also seemed now that his tiger
stripes have pretty much disappeared or faded out where this is
happening.
He is still eating and is swimming normal, really he seems perfectly
normal other than these swelled scales. The symptoms to me remind me of
a human sunburn!
Instead of getting red, he gets pale, he is peeling and his scales are
swelling much like how a sunburn bubbles. I had a Marine Glo light which
glows a blue which has been used for some time now so i don't think its
lighting. He is in a 108 gallon tank with a 6" goldfish, a 7" Dempsey, a
4" peacock cichlid, an 8" Pleco and a smaller other fish that I have no
idea what it is that was given to me months ago. I have had my water
tested
<What results? Appreciable ammonia et al?>
quite a few times and have not changed a thing that i have done since i
have gotten him. The only thing that changes is the type of food. Right
now I am feeding him floating cichlid pellets. On occasion, crickets and
guppies but i have not done this for quite some time. I have never ever
fed him low quality foods!! Im not understanding what is going on
because he is not acting strange at all, I have noticed that a couple
times when the paleness started, he seemed almost itchy but that has
stopped. I hope nothing is serious and there is a solution. Thank You
<Mmm, again... the clean-out... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm
and the linked files above; esp. on troubleshooting. I would be looking
for a good starter medium, like Dr. Tim's "One and Only". Bob Fenner>
Astronotus (systems; behaviour; health) – 04/22/09
My question is like many other ones, but also different in a few
ways.
<Oh? Most Oscar questions boil down to too many specimens in too
small an aquarium, with too little care being taken over water
quality.>
I have a Orange Albino Oscar, and a Black Tiger Oscar, and for about
4-6 months they've been great together.
<Famous last words. Let's be crystal clear about something: Oscars
aren't sociable fish. They are territorial, and except in big tanks,
they often don't get along. Juveniles are gregarious to be sure, but
as they age, they
become less accommodating. Mated pairs generally form loyal bonds
and work well together, but territorial males will be hugely
intolerant of one another, and will fight.>
Until recently, My Orange Oscar, looks kind of like it's shedding,
on both of it's sides in the middle.
<Fish don't normally shed their scales. So if you have a fish
obviously losing scales, that tends to mean either it's sick, or
it's being physically damaged, e.g., through fighting.>
It lays on the bottom (not on it's side) either normal, or very
slightly tilted. He's not to active, he comes to the top when i feed
them, but won't eat much. The reason i said my question was
different from the ones on your site at the moment, is because i
have the tiger Oscar in there with it, and it seems like almost
every time i feed them, the black Oscar will jump out of the water
and land on the orange one.
<Sounds like aggression or bullying to me.>
The orange Oscar is also missing it's top fin since this morning. i
don't see any pieces of it's fin in the tank, so I'm thinking it got
eaten.
<Again, consistent with social behaviour issues.>
Last but not least, i have a odd tank I'm not to sure of the tank
size, (30-50gal)
<Dismal. You need more than 50 gallons FOR JUST ONE OSCAR, let alone
for three of them!>
i know that's a big difference but it's a half octagon tank, and i
don't know how to measure it.
<Easy. Empty the tank. Fill the tank up again, counting how many
buckets containing X gallons of water you need to fill it.>
I run two 20 gallon topside filters,. the kind that hang on the
back.
<Hang-on-the-back filters are hopeless for large cichlids. You need
big, heavy-duty filters with inlet and outlet pipes at different
ends of the tank. External canister filters are the ideal, but
wet/dry filters and
reverse-flow undergravel filters can work well too (though the
latter will need a gravel tidy to keep the Oscar from upturning all
the gravel). Allow 8 times the volume of the tank in turnover per
hour; e.g., a 100 gallon tank would have a filter rated at 800
gallons per hour. Sounds a lot, but trust me, a 40 cm Oscar makes A
LOT of mess.>
i have a air tube on the back of the glass letting air bubbles go
into the water.
<OK.>
i feed them feeder minnows,
<Stop this! Feeder minnows are completely the wrong thing for these
fish, and in the trade we call these "parasite bombs". Minnows,
goldfish and other Cyprinidae contain thiaminase and fat, both of
which cause serious health problems for Oscars. You certainly aren't
doing your Oscars any favours here. See those strong jaws they have?
They're for crushing shells. Oscars LOVE crayfish, shrimp, snails
and other such things.>
and fish flakes, and algae pellets, which they seem to love oddly
enough.
<They're omnivores, and plant foods (such as cooked peas) are a good
addition to their diet.>
I do my 25% water change twice a month, and i notice that a lot of
people say once a week?
<Yes, you should be doing AT LEAST 25% water changes per week. In an
undersized, under-filtered tank like yours, twice a week would be
better. Look up Hole-in-the-Head disease and Hexamita infections.
These are difficult (and expensive) to treat, but plague Oscars kept
in conditions such as yours.>
Please tell me if i should start doing the 25% change more often,
such as once a week.
<Yes.>
Please help, thanks, Mike F.
<Done my best. Do read some more, here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/oscars.htm
Cheers, Neale.>
Questions regarding a new filter system. 3/31/09
Hello Crew,
<Ave,>
I have a quick question again I want to make sure that my fish have the
proper filtration needed to keep conditions good for them.
<Fire away.>
I have a 55 gallon tank with one tiger Oscar and one red Oscar.
<If these are both males, there will be a lot of fighting when they
mature. I'd recommend one Oscar per 55 gallons, and would only ever
keep two if I wanted to breed them (which I don't, since offloading the
hundreds of fry is very difficult).>
Ammonia and nitrates are all at zero, and I do a weekly water change of
about 20% to 25% and vacuum the gravel.
<Fine; do note Oscars are very intolerant of nitrate, and levels above
20 mg/l vastly increase the risk of Hexamita and Hole-in-the-Head.>
I have just purchased a new under gravel filter along with a power head
that pumps around 400 gallons per hour.
<Not a good plan. Oscars like to dig, and in doing so, will
short-circuit the flow of water through the UG filter. So while you
might use the UG alongside other filters, you'd have to make sure that
the other filters are 100% up to the job of maintaining these fish.
Don't rely on the UG for anything. Since Oscars are big fish, you're
after a turnover rate of 6 to 8 times the volume of the tank per hour.
So a 55 gallon tank would require 630-440 gallons per hour. This is
EXCLUSIVE of what the UG provides. The nightmare scenario otherwise is
that you go away for a day, the Oscar uproots the undergravel, and
because filtration rate then plummets, there's an ammonia spike during
your absence. However, you could use a gravel tidy
to secure at least 2/3rds of the gravel bed in place, and that would be
one way to prevent this problem; combined with a canister to form a
reverse-flow Undergravel filter, and that would work very well.>
I also have a hang on the back filter that I have left there just to
help a little, it has been there since I set up the tank I wanted to
keep all the good bacteria that it had.
<HOB filters would not be my preference for these big, messy fish; they
lack the oomph to keep detritus at the lower levels of the tank moving.>
This filter cycles around 200 gallons per hour. Between the two filters
I am pretty sure that I have enough filtration to maintain the tank. I
am aware that the Oscars will make bare spots by digging in the gravel,
but mine do not dig too much so I am pretty sure that they should do
fine.
<They aren't digging yet...>
They are a male and female and I want to keep them as happy and their
water as clean a possible so that they may possibly mate.
<How have you sexed them? You can't sex immature Oscars, and even when
mature, you can't sex them unless they are actually spawning, because
you have to look at their spawning papillae to tell the males from the
females. I'd also ask *why* you want to breed them; Oscars produce
thousands of eggs, and realistically you'll end up with hundreds of fry.
The market for these is very small, and since yours will be mixed rather
than pure-bred fish, the market will be even smaller. Think EXTREMELY
carefully about this.>
I am also looking into acquiring a larger tank I know that they are
going to require more room when they mate, however I know that I still
have time they are they are still only around 9 months old.
<They grow extremely rapidly, so start shopping now.>
I am very grateful for any more advice that you can give me they are my
pride and joy and everyone loves to stare into the tank and watch their
antics.
<Much written about them here at WWM; start here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/oscars.htm
Do please pay attention to diet; the usual thing of throwing goldfish at
them is about the worst thing you can do. Don't overfeed, don't use live
fish, and concentrate on a balanced diet of healthy foods including
greens.>
They love all the attention that they get as well, they are very
brilliant and fun creatures to have in my home and I want to keep they
healthy and happy.
<Yes, they are lovely fish. Make good pets.>
Thank You,
Heidi
<Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Questions regarding a new filter system. 4/2/09
Neale, Thank you for the answer I had never thought about a gravel tidy
but I am glad you mentioned it.
<Happy to have helped.>
I know that these guys grow very quickly, they have proven that, I got
these guys when they were about one inch long. They are now around 10
inches each and are very spoiled.
<Oh dear!>
They also do have a varied diet, they get cichlid gold pellets, along
with peas, freeze dried plankton and krill. They do not get goldfish but
on occasion they do get rosy red feeder minnows, that I have quarantined
at my home for about a month and treated to make sure that they have
less of a chance of getting sick from them.
<Still, don't use Minnows. Parasites are one issue, but the other two
are thiaminase and fat. Minnows, and indeed seemingly all Cyprinidae,
contain a lot of fat. Accumulation of fat around the internal organs
seems to be common among predatory fish that die prematurely. Perhaps
the lack of exercise makes things worse for aquarium fish compared to
wild fish?
Regardless, there's really no point taking this risk. Thiaminase is an
enzyme that breaks down Vitamin B1. Until very recently aquarists didn't
think about this issue at all, but recently people have become aware
that at least some mystery deaths may be down to vitamin deficiency,
caused by use of thiaminase-rich foods. Again, all Cyprinidae seem to
contain this enzyme, including Minnows and Goldfish. So yet again,
there's no point taking this risk either. Finally, I'd add a general
observation made by many aquarists that predatory fish fed feeder fish
are more aggressive than those that aren't. Unless you have an obligate
piscivore, there are NO good reasons to use feeder fish, and MANY good
reasons not to. I cannot stress this too strongly. You aren't doing your
fish (or your pocket book) any favours.>
They only get around 10 of these about once a month.
<Still 10 too many... If you want to feed them live food, then think
about what Oscars actually eat in the wild. See those huge, strong jaws?
They're for crushing shells. In the wild that would include crayfish,
snails and crabs. So find some live crayfish or snails of suitable size,
or see what happens. Since these are the *natural* food for Oscars, the
result will be a happier, healthier fish. Otherwise, earthworms are a
real treat, and for most fish, these are Nature's perfect food. Full of
decaying plant material as well as grit, they are a meaty, fibre-rich
treat most fish just love. If you have a garden where pesticides aren't
use, then you can collect your own for free! What could be better?>
I am currently shopping around for the larger tank however, and hope to
find what I need at a good price.
Thanks again for the advice.
Thank You, Heidi
<My pleasure, Neale.>
Oscars V Mbuna Cichlids 4/1/09
I just converted my 100g saltwater tank to freshwater. Been running for
a week now, cycling all over again (no patience) fishless and will
remain so for about another 2-3 weeks.
<OK.>
Changed the lights to two t-12 fluorescent (not wanting any live
plants).
<Depending on light intensity, algae can be a problem in cichlid tanks.
Under dim lighting, diatoms are usually the thing. If the water movement
isn't strong, blue-green algae is common as well. Hair algae tends to
crop up in tanks with high levels of nitrate/phosphate. Unfortunately,
the pretty green algae that looks so nice on rocks (and is eaten by the
Mbuna) requires very strong lighting. In other words, lighting may be
more important than you think.>
Love Oscars but did not know if I had the space to keep two and if
anything else would be able to go in this size tank with two Oscars.
<Best to keep Oscars singly, to be honest. Males are feisty, and because
you can't sex Oscars unless they're spawning, getting two at random has
a 25% chance of ending up with two males. If you get a boy and a girl, a
50% chance, then the problem is that they will spawn, and you're
suddenly lumbered with hundreds of unwanted baby Oscars. Much better to
get one Oscar, and then fill out the tank with some large dither fish
(big barbs for example) plus a suitable Loricariid Catfish and perhaps a
Bichir for the bottom, if you like oddballs.>
I am running the Fluval fx5 and will be getting a surface skimmer as
well.
<Sounds good. With big tanks and big fish, I recommend 6 times the
volume of the tank in turnover per hour, and ideally more. The Fluval
FX-5 should be ideal. Do keep the receipt though, or buy from somewhere
with a good returns policy (e.g., a local store rather than mail order)
because while Fluval filters are generally good, and I've often used
them, the odd lemon does seem to come off the production line.>
I have also been looking at the Mbuna Cichlids but not sure how many
would work to stop aggression and how many I could get away with in this
size tank ( I would want the most fish possible if i went this route).
<Some personal thoughts are here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_5/volume_5_2/malawian_cichlids.htm
Follow the links to other articles and FAQs. I'd HIGHLY recommend
spending some time tracking down any of the Konings or Loiselle books
listed here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bksfwbrneale.htm
You can pick some of these up secondhand for very little money. People
make
huge mistakes with Mbuna all the time, and instead of the colourful
"freshwater reef tank" they were expecting, they end up with a bunch of
muddy-looking hybrids that batter the heck out of each other. Among
other things, social behaviour and hybridisation should be considered.
For beginners, there's a lot to be said for choosing the smaller
("dwarf") Mbuna alongside relatively peaceful species such as Yellow
Labs. Whatever you do, don't scrimp on the rocks, since the more cover
you have, the better the fish will behave. Overstocking is an option,
but it has costs in terms of water quality, and like all cichlids, Mbuna
(and Malawians generally) are sensitive to nitrate. The all-too-common
approach of adding "one of everything" tends to result in [a] the
dominant fish killing the weaker species; and [b] lots of hybridisation.
Hybrids are a bane on the hobby, and have really helped ruin this
particular niche. Spend money on quality fish. Choose fish from
different genera to avoid hybridisation, i.e., only one species of
Pseudotropheus (including what are sometimes called Maylandia and
Metriaclima), one species of Melanochromis, one species of Aulonocara,
etc. Decide if you want just random colour or interesting behaviours; if
the latter, then creating a proper harem makes sense, with one male and
multiple (not just one!) female. Quite possibly,
concentrating on a single species would work well, as here with
Placidochromis:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_6/volume_6_1/placidochromis.htm
You could mix these with Labidochromis and Aulonocara quite easily,
resulting in a mix of blue, yellow, and red fish without any risk of
(serious) aggression or hybridisation.>
The ups and downs of the two choices would be appreciated and any
information you could give me on doing a 100g Mbuna Cichlid tank would
be greatly appreciated as well.
Jacob
<Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Oscars V Mbuna Cichlids
3/31/2009
Only reason I was asking about the pair in this size tank was because
the LFS has a spawning pair they received from someone.
<Ah, someone got fed up with dealing with the fry...>
They are both about 9 inches long.
<Still on the small size.>
I like the idea of doing an single Oscar with some dither fish.
<Cool.>
I also do like the Bichir. So my next question (I just want to make sure
I am being fair to the fish) would be if one Oscar, a Bichir, and maybe
3-4 Panda, Tinfoil, Redfin African, or Rosy barbs, and maybe some sort
of Loricariid Catfish.
<Tinfoils are the classic choice. I fear African Redfin Tetras would be
eaten. Rosy Barbs and Panda Barbs (Puntius fasciatus) would be somewhere
in the middle there, depending on the relative size of the barbs and the
Oscars. I'd probably not risk it except will full-grown Barbs. For that
matter, Rosy Barbs can sometimes be nippy, and do certainly require
cooler water than Oscars. So, instead, look at Puntius filamentosus,
Puntius mahecola, Puntius lateristriga, Hypsibarbus wetmorei,
Hypselobarbus jerdoni. The larger Luciosoma should work too. Really,
anything 2/3rds or more the size of the Oscars upwards should be safe.>
Would this be too much for a 100g system.
<One Oscar, one 30 cm/12 inch Plec, one 30 cm/12 inch, Bichir, and a
school of largish barbs should be just fine in a 100 gallon system.>
Thank you again for your timely feedback and keep up the great site.
<Happy to help, Neale.>
New Oscar Fish (Astronotus
ocellatus in a 2 gallon tank) 3/12/2009
Hi WWM,
I bought an Albino Oscar for my husband yesterday, even though we did
not have a tank set up yet, because he had wanted one, and I saw this
beautiful fish and had to buy it. We put him in a 2 gallon tank, until
we can get
our 55 gallon up and running, which will probably be this weekend. Is
Oscar in a trouble, or will he be okay until then? He is only about 3
1/2 in. right now. I have no Oscar experience and would like to know
what we need to do with our 55 gallon as well to make it a healthy place
for our fish. the water is a little cloudy today, but he swims around a
lot, and likes to chill at the bottom sometimes behind a little tree. I
want him to live a long time, so any advice is appreciated.
<Greetings. Get the Oscar out of the 2 gallon tank, NOW. He is not
"chilling" he's showing signs of stress. Fish aren't people, and they
don't chill, keep it real or hang loose. They're fish. In the case of
Oscars, that means swimming about in midwater. Cloudy water implies, at
best, dirty water, and at worst an incipient oxygen crisis mediated
through a bacterial bloom in the water. Either way, my crystal ball sees
a sick fish in your future. A 2-gallon tank is not a fish tank; it's a
bucket. A 3.5 inch Oscar needs at minimum something like 40 gallons to
even begin to have much chance of survival. A 55 gallon tank is just
about tolerable, and we're talking zero margin for error here,
acceptable for a small adult Oscar. Most Oscar keepers would recommend a
tank 75-100 gallons in size as being closer to what's required to
actually enjoy a healthy fish with the minimum of stress to you and the
fish. It also needs a filter rated at 8-10 times the volume of the tank
in turnover per hour; i.e, your 55 gallon tank will need a filter rated
at 440-550 gallons per hour. Anything less and you'll have muck on the
substrate and ammonia in the water. Eventually, you'll be dealing with a
sick fish. I cannot stress too strongly how demanding Oscars are, and
short of buying a Great White Shark, it's hard to imagine a worse
impulse purchase. Everything you need to know about Oscars is here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/oscars.htm
Read, digest, and if you have problems, please do get in touch.
Cheers, Neale.>
Question in
regards to Fish sold at Retail Stores (RMF, do you have thoughts?) <None
different, beyond. RMF> – 03/02/09
Hello. I have an inquiry in regards to fish sold at retail stores. I was in a
Meijer yesterday and I was looking at their fish and I notice that they were
selling Albino Oscars. There were three of them in a tank that in my opinion was
a little over crowded. No these Oscars are obviously on the young side as they
were only between 2 1/2 to 3 inches in length. My question is has to do with how
the stores handle fish like these. I know Oscars grow very quickly and if they
have been at he store for a while, how much does that play into their health?
I am not looking to buy any of these guys as my experience and knowledge of
keeping fish like these are severely lacking. However, I do enjoy reading
information on your website and I find Oscar fish some of the most intriguing
breeds I have seen. If memory serves right, I remember reading on your site that
if an Oscar is kept in a confined safe, that its growth will be stunted but its
internal organs keep growing. This can be fatal to an Oscar's health. Thank
you for your time and the great service you provide for those that keep fish as
pets. Best Regards! Neal <Hello Neal. Broadly speaking, we'd always
prefer people bought their fish from bona fide aquarium shops rather than
generic pet stores or department stores. The reality is that the wider the range
of products a store handles, the less deep its experience and information per
product is likely to be. Aquarium shops tend to employ people who keep fish, and
often the managers at least will be competent aquarists at some level, perhaps
being quite expert in some particular niche of the hobby. Department stores will
be tending to employ people looking for a career in retail, and while they may
be hobbyists as well, it's equally likely they only know whatever their training
manual or supervisor has told them. Another difference will be in the range of
hardware offered. A department store may well stock potentially huge cichlids or
catfish, but the tanks it sells will usually be (cheap) 5-, 10-, and 20-gallon
tanks that appeal to the low end of the market. Dedicated aquarium shops will
sell much larger aquaria, since they'll be attracting hobbyists at all ends of
the market, including marine fishkeepers and aquarists keeping demanding
freshwater fish like Rift Valley cichlids. The garden centre five minutes walk
from my home is a case in point; the biggest tanks it sells measure about 15
gallons, but they regularly get in stock things like Common Plecs and Black
Sharks, both of which couldn't even be physically wedged into a 15 gallon-tank
when mature, let alone kept in one! Now, as for stunting. There is very little
evidence that this happens for most fish, and certainly not in the "internal
organs keep growing" way sometimes suggested by ill-informed aquarists. Fish
stunting is known from certainly schooling food fish, notably Carp and Salmon.
On the other hand, it isn't an issue with other food fish, things like Tilapia
and Catfish, which pretty much get to as big as their food supply allows. A few
years back a TFH editor reared a tank of Oscars in conditions that would be
thought to stunt them. He found that provided he maintained water quality, e.g.,
by 95% daily water changes, even in a 20 gallon tank (if I recall) the Oscars
got to full size. Lots of Oscars don't get to full size, yes. They either [a]
die; or [b] have small fish genes; or [c] didn't receive enough food,
particularly through the critical first few months of life. But even a "small"
healthy Oscar is going to be 8-10 inches in length, and most get much bigger.
I'd recommend reading up on these fish before doing anything else. While
fascinating in many ways, they're extremely demanding in others, and in poor
conditions are very prone to diseases, particularly Hexamita. There are cichlids
for every budget and interest, so an evening spent reading through one of the
many excellent cichlids books would be time well spent. Do see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bookswwmsugg.htm Hope this helps,
Neale [sic].>
Three Oscars in a 55 Gallon Tank 2/25/09
Hello, I have been reading over your website, and many, many others. I have
recently purchased a 55 US gal aquarium. I initially set it up with the standard
filter system that it came with. The aquarium is a TopFin brand. I set it up
and let it stand with filter running for the cycle period, approx 2 weeks. I did
my water tests with API drops for those two weeks, and all looked good. I then
went and purchased 3 gouramis.. I kept an eye on it, and got the expected
ammonia spike, which rectified itself with in three days. The fish were all
healthy, then I made the error of buying two spotted catfish from our local
Wal-Mart. With in three days I had parasites and ich. I did all I could with
medication for ich and parasites, 25% water changes weekly and feed every other
day and removed the carbon element in the filter. Kept the temp at 75-76
degrees. I was unsuccessful, as the fish did die. I then sterilized the tank
and decorations according to one website, and let the tank re-cycle for two
weeks. Now I have three Oscars. I purchased one, and the other two were given
to me, or faced being flushed by their previous owner. My question I have is
this. Can I support three Oscars in a 55 gal tank? <Eventually the Oscars
will grow and only one will be able to live in a 55 gallon aquarium.> Since I
got the additional two Oscar, I have added a aqua cycle 70 filter, the type that
has the sponge, then the carbon and then a bio pellet bag. I have been over
dozens of website and talked to three of my local pet supply stores. No one can
give me the same answer twice! I really don't have the room or money to purchase
another tank, nor do I want to get rid of my Oscars. (by the way one is a red
Oscar, Midnight, one an albino Oscar, Chalky, and one is a tiger Oscar, Duke.) I
make sure I test the water weekly, and do a 25% water change weekly, and along
with the water changes add aquarium salt per instructed dosage. So far they are
good, the water test are showing that ammonia is 0ppm, nitrites are 20ppm and
the nitrates are 15ppm, both of the nitrates and nitrites are slowly going down,
and I keep the temp at 80 degrees F. ( I have had them for about two weeks now)
The three Oscars are currently juveniles, no longer than 1" to 2" long. They
are currently healthy and active, especially when feeding. I use a brand of
Cichlid pellets, supplemented with freeze dried brine shrimp, and I make sure
that they all get plenty of food. I have not seen them fighting, other than the
occasional mouth biting, and they seem to be doing good. At night they all clump
together behind a tall fake plant. I do need to get more cover if I can keep
them, which I plan on doing after I read your response! I have read many
horror stories of having too many Oscars and they get unhealthy and die. I have
also read many stories of three or more Oscars living happily for many years in
a 55 gal tank. I need some type of definitive answer as to whether or not I
am setting myself up for heartbreak and disaster down the road, and dooming my
Oscars to a slow and painful death because the tank is too small. Please let me
know your thoughts, as I am very interested in your opinion. Your site seems to
be very professional, and up-to-date. Thanks in advance Joe Leimbach < To
keep your Oscars healthy you need to keep the nitrates under 20 ppm. The
ammonia and nitrites need to be zero. Check the nitrates of your tap water. As
your Oscars grow the nitrates will continue to rise. When they get to the point
to where the nitrate levels go higher than 20 ppm between water changes then you
start to have problems with Hole-In-The-Head and bloat. You then need to do
larger water changes or more frequent water changes. Sometimes even both are
needed. If you don't have the time nor the effort to do this then you need to
reduce the bioload of the tank by reducing the number of fish. In areas with
lots of agriculture the nitrates may be up to 50 ppm right out of the tap. This
makes it very difficult to keep fish.-Chuck>
Oscar Tank Problems 2/11/09 Hello there- my name is
Sieba, I live in central California in the mountains. I moved in with my
boyfriend 2 years ago, and have since been the one taking care of the fish
tanks. The tank is about 150 gallons, two Oscars, one a foot long, the other
about 9 inches. Two plecostomus each 14 inches long, two jack Dempseys, each
about 7 inches long, and one foot long catfish. is this tank overcrowded? <
Check the nitrates with a test kit. They should be around or under 20 ppm. If
they are higher than this they need to be reduced with water changes. If you
cannot keep it under that level with weekly water changes then you should reduce
the number of fish so that water changes will keep the water under these
levels.> How much filtration should I have? < The filters should turn the
entire tank volume over 3 to 5 times per hour. This means that your filters
should pump at least 450 gallons per hour.> What temp is best? < Somewhere
between 75 and 82 F.> I really want to take care of them properly since my
boyfriend doesn't do a thing to help. The Oscars have these white pock marks on
them, I treated them a few weeks ago with fungus clear, but have no idea if that
was the correct treatment to use. The fish store people here know NOTHING!.
Please help me! Thanks! < The white marks on the fish are commonly referred
to as Hole -In-The-Head Disease. It is usually associated with poor water
quality and diet. I would recommend doing a 50% water change, cleaning the
filters and vacuuming the gravel. Look to change the diet to a quality pellet
food like Spectrum New Life. If the holes get worse you might try treating
the tank with Metronidazole. If you are close to Sacramento then there are
members of the Sacramento Aquarium Society that may direct you to stores that
may be better informed.-Chuck>
Astronotus (tank size) 1/15/09
Hi, can I keep an Oscar in a 40 gallon tank? thanks <Short answer: no. Oscars
are too big and too sensitive to poor water quality to be maintained in tanks
this size. You'll need 50% more capacity to keep a single specimen easily.
Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Astronotus (tank size)
1/16/2009 Thanks Neale for the quick reply. Is it possible to
keep it in a 45 gallon tank with only one Oscar by itself? I will do weekly
water changes to maintain the tank. Thanks again. <No. These are big fish,
easily 30 cm/12 inches and a mass of up to 750 g (about a pound and a half).
That means they produce a lot of waste, and even with a big filter, you still
have the problem of nitrate. Nitrate is at least once cause of Hole-in-the-Head,
a very common cause of Oscar mortality. Sure, you could do 50% water changes
every other day, but this is a cichlid that lives for 10+ years and changing
that much water gets tedious pretty quickly. There's absolutely no point to
keeping them in a tank under 210 litres/55 gallons, and sensible aquarists only
keep them in substantially bigger tanks. If you have a 45 gallon tank, there are
plenty of cichlids in the 4-6 inch range that would be a lot of fun to keep.
Have a look at Rainbow Cichlids, Salvini Cichlids, and Honduras Red Point
Convicts, for example. Electric Blue Dempseys are all the rage here in England,
and even though I'm not wild about these fancy-pants artificial forms, even I'll
admit they're striking animals. Cheers, Neale.>
Size of tank / cloudy water, Oscar
sys. 12/10/08 I don't remember the formula to find
out the number of gallons. Length X width X height X WHAT? <Have no idea, I
do all this stuff in metric. Much easier! 10 x 10 x 10 cm = 1 litre. But if you
insist on Ye Olde Worlde measurements, then according to Google, one cubic foot
is 7.48051948 US gallons.> I have 37 gal tank (I was told it was, I don't
think it is), with a heater, filter,& a 6 inch Oscar. (Which has been running a
month) <Too small for anything but a really young Oscar, and at 6 inches (15
cm) this Oscar is well beyond that point.> The Oscar is eats floating pellets
twice daily. (None in tank when finished) <Pretty typical for Astronotus!>
Water cloudy - partial water changed & filter changed. Still cloudy, what next?
Thank you <Tank is overstocked; too much fish, too little water. Buying a
bigger filter would be good money after bad. Astronotus need tanks from the 55
gallon mark upwards. They're big, messy fish prone to disease (e.g., Finrot,
Hole-in-the-Head) when kept for long in sub-optimal conditions. Cheers,
Neale.>
Re: Size of tank / cloudy water...
Oscar sys. 12/10/08 Thank you. FYI; Height X Length X
Width X 7.5 = gallons
<I believe that's what I said, only more accurately. Height (in feet) by length
(in feet) by width (in feet) gives you cubic feet. There's 7.48051948 cubic feet
to each US (as opposed to Imperial) gallon. As I'm sure your maths teacher
reminded you many times, the units are critical! So don't forget about them. Do
your sum in inches and you'd get a totally different number (say, 12 x 24 x 12
inches for a two foot tank) gets you 3456 cubic inches, when multiplied by 7.5
comes out as 25920 cubic inches, an answer that isn't in the least helpful! In
any case, your tank is too small for Astronotus. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Size of tank / cloudy water
Thank you. I was wrong, a pet shop owner gave me the wrong information. <Glad
we could help! Enjoy your fish, Neale.>
One of two Oscar fish died:
Should I get a new tank mate for the remaining Oscar? – 10/02/08
Hello. I'd like to ask your advice on buying a new tankmate for our
Oscar fish.
<Short answer is "No"...>
I recently adopted two little Oscars (about 2-3 inches each) from a
friend.
They get along very well; always swimming in pairs and sleeping together
in the same rock cave. One day, while I was at work, one of my Oscars
(the larger of the two) somehow managed to wedge himself into a little
opening in one of the decorations I had in the tank. When I came home,
he was dead. We're not sure how this happened.
<Almost certainly didn't "wedge" himself into something, but drifted in
there when moribund and didn't have the strength to get out. In any
case, mystery fish deaths are almost always down to water quality, so do
review this. Oscars are messy fish that depending strong filtration, and
even a pair of juveniles would be unwisely kept in anything below 55 US
gallons.>
So, we took little Token out and gave him a full burial (my son demanded
it).
But now the other fish just sits in the corner and ignores everyone.
<Don't worry; these aren't social fish and don't need friends. Be very
careful about how you perceive animal behaviour: they don't think the
way we do, and you transfer human emotions onto animals at your peril.
If the fish "looks" unhappy, review the things MUCH more likely to be at
issue, for example tank size, water quality, or the use of hideously
bright gravel bouncing light upwards at the fish.>
My son is very sad. He thinks the fish is depressed over the lost of its
friend. (Is it?)
<No.>
Personally, I don't think these little guys have evolved enough to feel
things like joy and sadness; but you don't tell that to a kid, do you?
<Sure you do. Bony fish have been evolving plenty long enough to have
all kinds of behaviours -- just not the same ones as us. Most animals I
know find the idea they think like we do rather insulting, in fact. So
yes, tell your kid that these are territorial fish that live alone most
of the time, only pairing up with partners for breeding purposes, at
which point they form very strong bonds and make excellent parents.>
Anyway, I want to get my son a new Oscar to put in the tank (minus the
little decoration of death, of course), but I'd heard from many sources
that Oscar fish mate for life.
<Not strictly true. But it is certainly true that you can't simply put
two Oscars in a tank and expect them get along. For one thing, males and
females are visually identical, so you can't sex them. Also, like most
other animals, the females are extremely choosy about who they mate
with, and consequently if the female rejects the male, he can become
very aggressive and will attempt to push her out the territory. This
obviously is not a good thing in the confines of a fish tank!>
While that notion was very sweet to us at first, it became an obstacle
when one of the fish died. So what do you think? Should I get a new
Oscar for the remaining fish? Will that help it cheer up?
<Unless you have a gigantic tank, I wouldn't bother. Much better to
choose a non-Oscar tankmate like a catfish or a school of large barbs or
something along those lines.>
Will my remaining Oscar be able to get along with the new one?
<Don't bank on it...>
I don't want to bring home a new fish and have them fight day and night.
What should I do? And thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
-Jamie
<Do read re: Astronotus. Much written about this species... few
surprises to be had if you're properly informed. Cheers, Neale.>
Travelling with Oscar.
-09/02/08 Hi there! <Ave,> My husband and I are moving about 2
1/2 hours away and we are travelling with a 7 inch tiger Oscar. I was wondering
what the best way to take a fish of that size a distance that far was. <Don't
feed him on the day of travel (you don't want him messing the water above the
minimum). In a big container, as big as you can get, filled with water enough to
cover him, the rest air, and then with a tight fitting lid. Place a towel or
blanket around the container to keep it warm. Every 30-60 minutes, it wouldn't
be bad idea to loosen the lid to refresh the air supply, but otherwise 2-3 hours
should be fine. If you have a good relationship with your local retailer, you'll
be able to get the large polystyrene boxes used to transport fish. These are
(obviously) ideal. Otherwise 5+ gallon buckets, or even picnic coolers, will do
great. There are battery powered air pumps available, and these can make all the
difference when transporting big, sensitive fish long distances.> I had
planned on just putting him in a bucket with a lid, but wouldn't he need a
heater? <Assuming he doesn't get too cold for too long, he'll be fine. Water
keeps its heat for a while, and the towel will insulate the bucket that bit
longer.> Please respond soon, we are planning on moving in a couple of days
so I need to know if I want to keep my darling Dave alive for the trip, (which I
do, of course!). Thank you so much! Lena. <This article is focused on
marines, but the basic facts hold true for freshwater:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_3/cav3i6/Moving.htm Fish travel quite
well, otherwise the tropical fish industry would never have gotten off the
ground! The main thing is to be methodical and do things one step at a time.
Unless something goes catastrophically wrong, like you drop the fish onto the
highway and it gets flattened under a Mack truck, there really isn't much to go
wrong. Really, the tricky bit is moving fish tanks, because the silicone seals
are easily twisted and damaged. The fish on the other hand are quite easy to
move. Done it many, many times. Cheers, Neale.>
Re: Travelling with Oscar. -09/02/08
Thank you so much! I'll let you know how he does after the move. Lena. <Cool.
Have a safe trip! Neale.>
"Slash" our Oscar, concerns w/ "worms"
in the tank 8/12/08
we got an Oscar about 4 months ago, and he has come around pretty quick!
he is an amazing fish, as he is our first Oscar. he has had these little
"worm" looking things on the inside of the tank, they are extremely small,
and move around. they have not attached to him, and don't seem to be bugging
him, but they are driving me absolutely crazy!! we feed him a high grade
pellet food, and about 1-2 times a week he gets frozen treats like meal
worms, or brine shrimp. he is in a 55gal tank, with a power filter for 50-60
gal (up grading to a canister filter), we also do about a 30 % water change
weekly. I know its hard without seeing it, but what could these "worms" be?
and how the heck to we get raid of them!? thanks for the help!!
Desiree, Todd and "slash"
<The "worms" are most likely Planarians, in other words flatworms. They feed
on the food you've given the Oscar. As you know, Oscars are very messy fish.
The fine particles they produce get everywhere, especially if the tank is
inadequate and water changes are infrequent. In both regards, you're at
fault here: cichlids need BIG filters, and you should be using a filter
offering NOT LESS than 6 times the volume of the tank in turnover per hour.
Forget about the rating on the box telling you X filter is for Y sized
tank... these estimates are based on best-case situations where a tank
contains few, small fish, Neons for example -- not Oscars! You also should
be doing AT LEAST 50% water change per week, with the gravel cleaned on a
regular basis. It's the stuff you're not removing that the Planarians are
eating. While harmless in themselves, they're a "wake up call" telling you
of an underlying problem. Long term, excessive nitrate in the water will
lead to issues such as Hole in the Head that are a real bother to treat. So
please, upgrade your tank (too small for adult Oscars), upgrade your filter,
and step up the water changes. Do this and the Planarians should fade away
in time. Do see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/oscars.htm
Cheers, Neale.>
Oscar Gill Sticking Out
8/11/08
Hi we have an Oscar fish for almost a year and we just changed him to a new
55 gallon tank. My question and concern is that if looking at him
his left gill seems to be coming out further than his right when
breathing. He also seems to be opening his mouth more when he takes
a breath. I'm not sure why one gill is pushed out further than the
other, our other fish/ Oscars are fine. Please help!!! Thank you.
< I think what you mean is that the one gill cover doesn't
completely close and maybe stays out a little more than the other
one. There could be a growth or something within the gill that is
preventing it from closing the whole way. I would remove the fish
and restrain him with a wet towel from the aquarium and hold him
down and gently pry back the suspect gill cover and look quickly
with a flashlight to see if anything was in the way. Without
actually seeing anything then I might suspect gill flukes and treat
with Fluke-Tabs. Flukes could have come in with feeder fish.-Chuck>
Re: Oscar fish
Oscar With Stuck Gill II 8/11/08
Thank you so much for your reply. The Oscar fish seems to be healthy
except for the fact that his left gill doesn't open at all. The weird thing
is that both gills work fine while he eats. He seems to be eating as much as
usual, but his breathing is a bit irregular and a bit faster than usual. Do
you think that taking Oscar out of the tank and putting him on a towel to
inspect his non-working gill won't traumatizing him in some way?
< It is going to be your call. You are correct that this will stress you
Oscar in some way, but not moving water through this gill is like you trying
to breath with one lung. The only way to find out what is going on is to
inspect the area. If he gets worse then it will become more stressful later
on.>
We have already lost three of our oldest fish (when we did the switch to the
new 55 gal tank) and we would really hate to do anything that might put his
life in any kind of danger. The water is in optimal condition, their diet
doesn't include any live fish, and the temp is an even 78°. We do a tank
clean-up once a month which includes a filter and a 5 gal water change (we
only use drinking water since our tap water is way to hard). Please advise,
thanks again for all your help!
Santi & Sky
< Hard to believe that with a 5 gallon water change you don't have higher
nitrates. Another potential problem may be some ammonia burn when the new
tank was changes over. This is caused by an ammonia spike and it actually
eats away or burns some of the gill filaments. These may heal over
time.-Chuck>
Re: Oscar fish
Changing Water In An Oscar Tank 8/13/08
Are you saying that is NOT good to change 5 gals out of 55 gals every month
while cleaning the bottom gravel? Even though it's drinking water? Are you
saying that it has to be a bigger qty. of water that needs to be changed? Could
you please explain that to us, we keep getting different stories from different
people :(Thanks again!
< Oscars are big messy eaters. You are probably changing less than 10% of the
water. It is hard to believe that your nitrates are not a problem. Usually I
recommend at least a 25% weekly water change for such large fish, but you say
the water chemistry is fine. As long as the fish are doing ok then that is all
that really matters.-Chuck>
|
Tank big enough? 05/31/08
Hi crew!
I have a 110 gallon Juwel rio tank, I already have a very small tiger
Oscar in there, and I was reading through your posts and I noticed that
it's possible to keep a few Oscars together in a 100 gallon tank? I
wanted to get another one - the Oscar I have in currently around 10 cm
in length from head to tail. He is the only fish in the tank.
Thanks!
<In theory you could easily keep more than a single Oscar in there. But
here's your problem -- there's no reason to assume the established fish
will accept another Oscar into its territory. At least not without a
fight! Usually when people keep multiple Oscars they introduce them as
juveniles, and then as the fish mature they remove surplus individuals
so that they end up with a single compatible pair. Because Oscars are
virtually impossible to sex externally (it's only reliably done when
they're spawning by examining the genital papillae) you can't assume
yours is a female and add a male, or vice versa. At 10 cm yours is
likely close to being sexually mature, so adding additional Oscars of
similar size would be very dicey. While you might get lucky, you might
just as easily end up with a bunch of battered fish. So in reality, I
think the safest approach is to leave the idea of a pair of Oscars
alone, and instead add dissimilar fish that won't be eaten by the Oscar
but are themselves mild enough not to cause territorial disputes of
their own. Plecs, large Spiny Eels, Silver Dollars, large barbs and
characins, large Climbing Perch and so on would all fit the bill.
Cheers, Neale.>
Gravel for Tiger Oscar 5/17/08
Hi,
<Hello>
I recently had a tiger Oscar who I believe died because he swallowed a
stone gravel that got lodged inside him and the reason I believe this is
because when he ate food he would pick up the stones in his mouth by
mistake. Two days before he died I noticed him doing that but I didn't
see if he spitted it out or not and when I came from work he was
vertically facing down in the tank for hours until he died and there was
a huge lump in his belly where his feces comes out; to me it looked like
one of the stones. So I want to know what is the best gravel to use for
tiger Oscars, should I use sand instead of large stones and how much do
I need for a 55 gal tank?
<Mmm, I like larger size gravel (like "pea", nominal 3/16" diameter)
natural gravel for most larger species of Neotropical Cichlid tanks. Bob
Fenner>
Oscars and plants
Oscars Redecorating The Tank 3/30/08
Dear Crew, As much as I like my Oscars, they are driving me insane. They are
about eight months old and seems to hate everything in their tank. They
are spitting gravel everywhere, pulling on tubing and attacking tank
decorations. But this is not so much my problem. One of them is
absolutely shredding any sort of plastic plants I put in there (She also
tries to bite my hands when I clean the tank, but this is beside the
point). She rips the plants apart and they get stuck in the filter. I
want to have plants in my tank, it looks incredibly bare as is right now
and it's really bothering me. Is there any sort of live plant, silk or
plastic plant that can stand this kind of abuse? Do you have any
recommendations? I realize that Oscars are notorious for this behavior,
but I don't want my tank to look like a prison cell.
<Your Oscars are cichlids that are very territorial. This includes
moving things around to set up borders to their turf. This is pretty
normal with large cichlids. Unfortunately live plants don't stand a
chance and artificial plants won't be much better. Maybe large pieces of
driftwood that has already been soaked to remove tannins can give your
tank a different look.-Chuck.>
Oscar Tank With Dirty Water 12/29/07
I have a few questions. I have one Oscar (the black and red kind) and also
two tinfoil barbs. I have had them for about six months. They are all housed in
a 100 gallon tank. I do about a 30% water change every Monday. My fish
absolutely love when I change the water is really fun to watch them swim under
the water that is being poured. Anyway, I am having troubles keeping my water
clear and my glass free from yuck. I have been putting AquaSafe water
conditioner with BioExtract about every other week. I don't want to put to many
chemicals in my water, that is why I do not do it every time I change waters.
What can I do to help clear the water and the glass? I do make sure that the
fish are eating all of their food in two minutes. All other food I take out, so
it doesn't dissolve in my water. What do I do? Thanks for any help that you can
offer.
< Filtration is very important. You did not mention any details about the
filters that you are using. Generally you need a filter that will move about
300+GPH. I prefer big outside power filters like the Emp. 400. It is somewhat
noisy but does an excellent job and is easy to maintain. If space behind the
tank is an issue then look at some canister filters. They work but I have found
them a hassle to maintain.-Chuck>
Tank height/width for Oscar (Neale?) – 9/27/07
Dear Crew,
<Mitzi,>
(Neale's my new hero with all his clear concise advice so if he's in, feel free
to pass this onto him. Not that he wants more mail!)
<No comment!>
I'm pulling my hair out trying to decide which exact size bigger tank to get for
my Oscar. He's only 4" and in a 90 gal now, I have time and I know I don't
"have" to get a bigger tank, but I want it for him.
<A great attitude.>
No tankmates, just him.
<Not even a Plec of some kind? My thinking is companion fish give the Oscar
something to do while you're out. They provide some exercise too, as the fishes
have to swim about to get out of each other's way. To be sure, Oscars are the
Siamese cats of the cichlid world, very much human-centric animals that love the
company of a trusted owner. But a Plec would do no harm and would double up as a
useful cleaner-upper for removing little bits of food the Oscar leaves in the
tank.>
I do know I want at least 125 gallons and 72" long.
<Very good.>
But there's big price differences between 18" wide and 24" wide.
<Indeed; to do with the thickness of the glass I think.>
I also was under the impression I should get one at least twice as tall as a
full grown Oscar-which would be 24" tall, is that true?
<On the whole Oscars don't care. Depth is always a good thing, but volume is
most important of all.>
Or would 17" tall be tall enough?
<Depends on the size of the Oscar really. A lot of specimens are kept in tanks
that depth. But it's a little shallower than I'd recommend, if only because a
full grown Oscar is quite deep bodied, and by the time you've added gravel to
the bottom of the tank, it might look a little cramped. The fish won't care, but
how things look matters too.>
My LFS has a special on 135 gal tanks. They're 72" X 18" X 24" tall for $350.00
total. For about the same price I could get a 127 gal 72" x 24" x 17" tall tank.
I wanted him to have 2 ft of room to turn around in. Which is more important?
24" to turn around in (vs. 18") or having 24" height vs. 17" ? 18" doesn't seem
like much room for a 12" fish to turn around in, at the same time 17" doesn't
seem like it would be tall enough for a 12" fish given their leaping abilities.
<Tough call. My gut instinct would be to go with wider, shallower tank. Fish
tend to be more stressed by feeling that they are "funneled in" to the left and
right than how deep the water is below them. On the other hand, a shorter but
deeper AND wider tank, say 60" by 24" by 24", would (in my opinion) be better
than either. And likely cost the same.>
Both are great prices (I think), I'm just not sure how important each is.
<Six of one, half a dozen of the other really. But my gut instinct is to go with
width over depth. It probably doesn't matter greatly to something as flexible as
an Oscar. Depth/width issues tend to be more problematic with species that are
inflexible, such as needlefish and gar.>
If both are pretty important PLEASE don't be afraid to say so. I'd much rather
pass up this deal and hold off 2 months and save up another few hundred dollars,
which is what I'm leaning towards.
Because for $600.00 I can get a 180 gal 72" X 24" X 25" tall tank-depending on
how important you think height and width are.
<I can tell you this sort of aquarium is unbelievably nice. I looked after two,
200 gallon tanks about this size, and in terms of aquascaping and communities
they're really flexible. One tank was filled with Central American cichlids and
decorated with MASSIVE slabs of granite collected from the beach. To see
something like a firemouth cichlid DWARFED by its environment really lends the
aquarium a "slice of nature" feel. I've also seen these tanks planted with
'giant' plants like Vallisneria asiatica, and the results are amazing. On the
other hand, for a single Oscar this is probably overkill. If you have $600 then
go for it, but it isn't as if a smaller tank won't provide an equally nice place
for your pet to live. Once you get about the 55 gallon size, your Oscar is
basically a happy fish. These things have been tank-bred for generations and
aren't nearly so bothered by aquarium conditions as wild fish.>
(Water changes would also be bigger with a 180 gal but that doesn't matter a
whole lot, we're on a well & I have a 300 gal plastic stock tank to age it).
<Indeed. I find that actually getting my 'rear in gear' so that I do water
changes at all is the biggest labour. Once you have the pipes and buckets laid
out, looking after a 10 gallon tank or a 100 gallon tank isn't very different.
And, on the plus side, bigger tanks go wrong less often, so the headache costs
drop markedly.>
I'd really like your opinion as I know you'll tell it like it is. The opinions
of ALL of you are very important and I put considerable amount of stock in what
you say.
<Kind of you to tell us this. Thanks!>
What do you think?
Mitzi
<Hope this is food for thought, anyway. Cheers, Neale>
Re: Tank height/width for Oscar (Neale?) –
9/27/07
Dear Crew (Neale)
Oh good, my email did get answered by you, Neale :-) You seem to have the knack
of answering in easily understood terms yet you're very upfront and not afraid
to criticize when needed. I'm afraid after the 10th email asking, "Why did all
my 47 fish die in my 2 gal Betta tank?" I'd probably lose my cool.
<This does indeed happen...>
You're much more patient and non-condescending that I could be. ALL of you are
and I don't bother looking fish information up anywhere else anymore.
<Glad we can help.>
Yes, a 50" X 24" X 24" *is about the same price as the 125 & 127 gal tanks. But
my heart is set on at least 6' long, I love seeing Oscars coast along a decent
stretch of area.
<Very good.>
I like the thought of the 180 gal
(6' x 2' X 25"). You've given me an idea with aquascaping that hadn't occurred
to me. I don't have the extra $300.00 just laying around but it's something I
can save up in the next month or 2 and add to what I have and get that bigger
tank. It's all a matter of priority and this just happens to be one of mine.
<Indeed.>
It's strange. I've had my other fish for years and just "really enjoyed them a
lot". But this little Oscar opened up a whole new world, I love this fish. He
gobbles zucchini I boil for him like it's the best bug he ever ate.
<Yep, Oscars eat plant material in the wild. No-one believes me when I say this,
but wild fish are distinctly omnivorous.>
The rest of my family claim I can't cook to save my life, yet my loyal little
fish loves my 'cooking'. He's happy to see all of us but I'm the one he wags his
whole body for.
<More than likely.>
I never had that from a fish before & I love him for it, even if it's only
because I'm the one who feeds him.
<Partly true, but Oscars do enjoy human company.>
Those 18" brown Plecs have got to be the homeliest creatures I've ever seen
(sorry to all the Plec-lovers).
<There's more to Plecs than the "common Plec". Look up things like Panaque
nigrolineatus and Pseudacanthicus sp. 'L025'. Some plecs will upstage their
tankmates when it comes to looks!>
My husband loves them so it's a possibility. I'm open to thinking about it if
you think it would break the boredom for the Oscar (I hadn't thought of it that
way). At least a Plec wouldn't compete for food or attention.
<Indeed not. Quite the reverse, the two would largely utilise complementary food
stuffs, while both being open to taking a little of one another's if some was
left over.>
I'll go through the FAQs/articles and research them here. I haven't before
because when I think "plecostomus " my mind sees big blocks of sandpaper lol But
there's bound to be others I don't know about yet.
<Indeed there are. Planet Catfish is a great web site for seeing galleries of
catfish including Plecs.>
Thank you once again, seeing things from another viewpoint makes me feel better.
My gut instinct after reading your thoughts is to wait and get tall & wide both.
I'm so grateful to this website.
Mitzi
<Good luck, Neale>
Re: Tank height/width for Oscar (Neale?)
2nd part... Clown Loach comp.? – 9/27/07
Neale, Crew,
As a P.S. Neale, I read the articles on the different Plecs, very good
information.
The only other fish I have a real desire for is the Clown Loach. I've never
gotten any because my water is very hard (300 ppm) with a PH of 8 and everything
I read says you 'need' soft water with a PH of 6 or so. I discussed my water
with you recently in regards to the Oscar and you stated that seldom does a
'soft water fish' fail to acclimate to hard water. Would that hold true for the
Clown Loach? Or is that stretching it too far? I know they can get up to 12" but
it takes them many years to get there. I've also always read you 'have' to have
a minimum of 3, do you agree with that? That would be what I'd really WANT to go
into a 180 gal with the Oscar, I'm not sure my water would be acceptable though.
I don't feel right "settling" for a Plec (although the Royal Plec is actually
pretty) just to alleviate boredom.
Thanks for helping me, I'm truly trying not to bother you!
Mitzi
<Clown loaches can and do thrive when kept with Oscars. Water chemistry is
largely irrelevant with Clowns. What they appreciate it swimming space and water
quality, both of which you're providing. When kept in groups of 4-6, Clowns
become very different fish to how they seem when kept singly in a small
aquarium. They scoot about nose-to-tail like Corydoras some of the time, though
sometimes they'll turn around and snip at each other, perhaps establishing a
pecking order. While they can get to 30 cm or so, that's uncommon in aquaria. A
15-20 cm specimen -- after 7 or 8 years of growth! -- would be pretty good
going. Royal Plecs are very pretty, and I have one of my own. My favourite fish,
and quite tame in her way. But so destructive of plants! Though she doesn't eat
them, she uproots them, and causes me much grief in trying to make her aquarium
pretty. This species mixes very well with Oscars. They are delicate after import
though, so be sure and look for a nice, fat specimen with bright -- not sunken
-- eyes. This actually holds true for all "rare" Plecs. PS. Usually, hard water
fish have problems acclimating to soft water, and not the other way around. Soft
water fish may nt like hard water, but it rarely does them any harm. But when
hard water fish are kept in soft water, you end up with fish that have fungus,
finrot, etc. I think it's a question of soft water lacking essential minerals
while soft water has a surfeit of them -- it's easier for soft water fish to
adjust to excess, than for hard water fish to make do without entirely. There
are exceptions, but few. Cheers, Neale>
Re: Tank height/width for Oscar (Neale?) 2nd part – 9/27/07
Oh good-thank you! The thought of actually being able to get some Clown
Loach after wanting them so long makes my whole day :-)) They grow slower than I
thought, I believe when the time comes I'll find 6 that are almost as big as the
Oscar. He should still be under 6" by the time I get the 180 g so finding 5"
Clown Loaches shouldn't be too hard. They'll definitely get quarantined also.
I've wanted them for so long but didn't think I could have them without an RO
unit. If it came down to it I could always get an RO unit in the future if I
find they don't do well in harder water.
Thank you! What great news for a Friday!
Mitzi
<Hi Mitzi. Clown loaches are definitely among the most slow growing fish in the
hobby. In part, this might be because they're often kept in sub-optimal aquarium
conditions. But they do also seem to be simply slow-growing, late-maturing,
long-lived fish. Truly, hard water isn't an issue. These loaches are routinely
kept by British aquarists, most of whom have to make do with "liquid rock". It's
easy to fixate on soft water because it's more true to the natural ecology of
many fish. But hard water has a key advantage: it's chemically stable. Fish will
usually adapt fine to non-natural water chemistry, but what they HATE is
fluctuating water chemistry. Unless you really need soft water, e.g., for
breeding fish, then there's no practical advantages to using soft water with
most standard aquarium fish. Cheers, Neale>
Re: Tank height/width for
Oscar (Neale?) Update 11/12/07
I'm sending the previous correspondence for reference.
<Ah, hello again Mitzi!>
I fell in love with the Royal Plecs after Neale's emails about them (thanks,
Neale!). I wanted one to put in a 180 gal tank with a 5" Oscar (tank is on its
way).
<Royal Plecs are great companions for Oscars.>
I wanted Clown Loaches very badly also so was having a hard time deciding. I
didn't want to order fish sight unseen online but had a pretty tough time
finding a Royal Plec in my area. The LFS I trust the most said it'd be a 2-3
month wait for a tiny one.
<They are somewhat seasonal fish here in England, depending on the exporting
season from South America, which seems to be around September time. As far as I
know, they aren't bred in captivity.>
I happened to run across an Olive Royal Plec a few nights ago at a small out of
the way fish shop.
<Also known as L027b. A fine choice.>
He'd been there a month, was nice and chunky and eating well so I bought him,
he's in quarantine.
<A well-fed Panaque just demands to be bought! Well spotted. Quarantining this
species is always a good idea, though that's more about getting them to eat than
anything else. If your specimen is nice and fat, then your work is mostly done.>
He's only 3 1/2" though so he can't go in with my (now) 5 1/2" Oscar. I'm 99%
sure my Oscar would eat him or die choking on him. Too risky.
<OK.>
I've decided to just put 2 large common Plecs in with the Oscar, will that be
alright in a 180 gal?
<Should be.>
My LFS said it'd work fine, but I'm concerned about 'Plec squabbles'.
<See how things go. Look for signs of fin damage or scratches on the body
armour. Mostly, it's squabbling over hiding spaces. These fish are schooling
animals in the wild, but in aquaria (i.e., in small spaces) they become
territorial. It's probable that mature males are the aggressive ones, since it's
the males that guard the eggs and fry in muddy burrows.>
I also recently bought 6 tiny Clown Loaches from my trusted LFS, they'll be in
quarantine another 2 weeks.
<Very good. Again, excellent additions to this sort of big-but-peaceful
community.>
I'd recently asked Neale about putting Corydoras catfish in with my Severum in a
55 gal.
<Should work, except perhaps with tiny Corydoras that could be mistaken for
food. Severums are herbivores of course, but they won't turn down an easy fish
supper!>
I adore the Royal Plec (Oliver Twist) and the Clown Loaches so I bit the bullet
& ordered a 6 ft long 125 gal for the Severum, 6 Clown Loaches and the Royal
Plec. Is that enough room?
<Should be, assuming adequate filtration and aeration, plus of course water
changes. Providing lots of hiding places will also be important. I'd be looking
at terracotta pots and pipes of various sorts. These big fish (especially
herbivores like Severums and Panaque) hammer plants so there's no mileage in
planting the tank. But creating use of mock-Ancient Greek ceramic urns and the
like can be used to create very attractive and easy to clean systems. I've seen
people place airstones inside the urns so that the bubbles dramatically come out
of the urns. Coloured lights also work great in these sorts of tanks. The
additional aeration will also help with water quality and the stocking density.>
Would I possibly have room for 12 Corydoras (trilineatus)?
<Yes. Their total mass would be about the same as a half grown Clown Loach!>
I'm concerned about there being so many bottom feeders and the fact that Royal
Plecs are said to be territorial at times with other bottom feeders.
<Royal Plecs ignore Corydoras completely, and likely loaches. Their preferred
food is wood and vegetables, so largely they'll be eating different things to
the other catfish. It's important not to give too much meaty food to Panaque, by
the way. Do read this:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/almosperffshmonks.htm >
If the Clown Loaches all thrive and happened to grow fast in the years to come I
could always put 3 of them in the 180 gallon tank with the Oscar. This tank is
centered around the Severum, so whatever you advise is best for him is what I
plan to do. I want to stay understocked.
<Your plan sounds good.>
Thank you for listening to my dilemma. Lord knows I don't know what I'd do
without your web site.
<Glad to help.>
PS My husband has been reading up on Dwarf Puffers and is planning on setting
one up in a 12 gal tank. He was telling me about this "great article" he'd read
in Tropical Fish magazine. I looked at the article and saw the author was none
other than Neale Monks :-) I told my husband he's also my new hero with Oscar
information-ha!
<I'm pleased you both enjoyed the article! TFH is a great magazine, and I'm
always pleased with how they lay out and illustrate my articles.>
Thank you all for being there and being so wonderfully patient.
Mitzi
<Good luck, Neale>
Re: Tank height/width for
Oscar (Neale?) Update 11/13/07
Excellent! I'm forever grateful for you and this entire site! Both tanks are
going to have a lot of stacked driftwood and (what I call) mangrove roots. Just
a week ago I was telling my husband how cool an "Egypt" tank would look. I was
going to try to make it look like Stonehenge. The Greek-looking urns would fit
in great! The fish wouldn't know I mixed 2 different "themes".
<Plecs and big loaches just love big ceramic urns and other ornaments. We often
assume something "natural" is best, but animals don't really care. So long as it
is safe to use underwater (i.e., nothing chemically treated or varnished) you're
good to go. Terracotta objects work great. A lot of public aquaria do this sort
of thing because it looks so good with the right lights and bubbles. At the
London Aquarium, they have aquaria that look like Roman baths, the statues on
Easter Island, even harbours with anchors and whatnot. With big fish, a few big
ornaments looks amazing, and so much better than lots of little bits of
clutter.>
The tank has 3 separate tops each with their own light fixture so I can put
different colored bulb covers on each of the end ones. I love that idea, thank
you!
<Over here there's a brand of air pump called Hydor and they have these clever
little units that combine powerful spiraling air bubble generators with coloured
lamps, so you get a column of red, blue or green bubbles. Another near trick is
to place generic halogen spotlights well above the tank (say, 1 meter) and only
use plain acrylic or glass as a tank cover. When the light is above the water
and focused as a beam rather than a strip, could get the dappling pattern of
light we've all seen when swimming underwater. It's a totally different effect
to the usual uniform lighting. With a big tank without plants, you can really
get creative with the lights, and build up areas of light and shade. Big fish,
like Oscars, look incredibly dramatic, because they now look as if they are
lurking under the shade of an overhanging tree. In other words, think outside
the box.>
The Severum is a passive female (named Stewie). I always forget and call 'her' a
'he' though. She's in her own tank because of the fact she *is so passive. She's
seems so sweet and protective of the 6 Corydoras she's in with now, one of the
reasons I love her so. So I don't anticipate any problems with her towards new
Corys.
<Agreed. Severums are generally quite mild. You get the odd mean specimen, but
most are fine, especially females.>
I'm now re-thinking putting two (common) Plecs with my Oscar; one should be
fine.
<Indeed.>
I don't want to have to part with one if they don't get along because I get too
attached.
<Agreed!>
I literally *never* paid any attention to Plecs before your previous
correspondence and only thought of them as 'ugly brown things'. I'm ashamed I
thought that way now. They're beautiful and useful and come in hundreds of
colors. Even the plain brown ones are pretty when you look at their patterns and
their broad fat mouths.
<Precisely so. The problem with this whole family -- the Loricariidae -- is it
is addictive. Once you learn about one or two of them, then you discover the
Redfin Cactus Plec, the Queen Arabesque, the Blue-eyed Plec, the Black Adonis
Plec, Hypancistrus zebra... there are literally hundreds of species in this
group, many of which are superb animals.>
I wish they weren't so territorial so I could have a "Plec tank".
<That is the problem! They're one-to-a-tank mostly, and many get pretty big. But
the smaller ones, like Whiptails and Clown Plecs, are often small enough you can
set up groups. Under such conditions, many spawn quite willingly. The fathers
are exceptionally good parents and will guard the fry even after hatching.>
I'm completely in love with this Royal Plec :-) Thank you for opening my eyes
and for all your good advice.
<My pleasure! My Royal Plec is my absolute favourite fish and she is so tame and
so funny-looking. Even my aquarists who keep marine fish accept that Royal Plecs
are special fish with a charm and character all their own. Spend some time
reading up on their science, too. They're amazing animals and unique among
vertebrates in being able to eat and digest wood.>
Mitzi
<Cheers, Neale>
|
High ph, hard water-Oscar – 09/14/07
Dearest Crew,
I have extremely hard water and have 5 freshwater tanks. I don't completely
trust dipsticks but I think this one is probably reasonably accurate. It says
total hardness (GH) is 300 ppm and total alkalinity (KH) is barely under 300
ppm. We have well water with no chlorine or anything. I took it all with a grain
of salt until I tried softening & lowering the ph with buckets of test water. I
didn't want to put anything in the tanks until I knew what the end results of my
bucket tests were. I've been reading extensively the past 4 wks on WWW about ph
(something I never understood until I found your crew). The more I read the more
concerned I became. I try so hard to feed the right food for each fish, give
them plenty of room, keep ammonia, nitrites and nitrates all always '0' by quick
3-4% daily water changes. I want to take care of them right because they're my
little charges and they only have me to do it.
My 'newest' fish is my now 4" red Oscar. I've him about 2
months. Lord, I love that wiggly little beggar fish. I care very much for my
Severum, Goldfish & Blood Parrots but I'm completely enthralled with this little
Oscar. I was lulled all these years by the idea that "stable PH is better than
unstable proper PH" but now I'm wondering if I shouldn't have been so
complacent.
After finally understanding PH & alkalinity I'm worried about my Oscar because I
adore him so and my Severum who needs a considerably lower ph. The ph of my 4
day old aerated water
is 8 to 8.2, the ph in the tanks runs about the same according to my Aquarium
Pharmaceuticals liquid test tube kit.
I use pea gravel and inert smooth aquarium gravel in the tanks I'm concerned
about, old driftwood, no limestone or dissolving rocks of any kind.
I used a 10 gal tub of the aged hard water and put a big handful of peat moss
tied in nylon with a bubbler. It's been 2 days now and still at 8.2. I left the
peat moss in there and added the recommended amount of "Beckett PH Lower" to it.
It says it has 15% citrus acid. The pH immediately dropped to 7 but after just 8
hrs it had already risen back up to 8. That's the reason I tend to believe the
test even though it was a dipstick test. This water is well buffered, I just
wish it was buffered at 6-7 ph. It's not about to give up and let go of the high
ph for any length of time. I can't subject fish to these swings, obviously.
Do you think an 8 to 8.2 ph is far too high for my Oscar? (I know it is for the
Severum). Your Oscar facts said "Freshwater: pH range: 6.0 - 8.0; dH range: 5.0
- 19.0 was acceptable for Oscars. Yet all the FAQ's always say they need 6-7 ph
and medium water. If all other factors in his care are optimal, am I worrying
too much or worrying for good reason? HITH disease scares me badly and I want to
avoid it at all costs. I don't want to shorten their lives in any way.
I read several of (mainly) Chuck's references to mixing 80% distilled water with
20% tap water along with leaving peat moss in the tank. That sounds like
something I could easily do with no
trouble at all if distilled is safe to use. If it were only my 45 gal Severum
tank I could also just as easily get water from my brother's house, no big deal.
But my Oscar now has a 90 gal tank and I've decided on a 125 gal long tank the
1st of the year. That's alot of water to be dragging home for water changes. If
you think the situation is dire enough I'll do research on an RO unit if I need
to. I also worry that if something happens to me or I end up in the hospital and
my husband had to do water changes he'd never be able to understand complicated
water changes. He could easily do them by aging our plain tap water though (with
me shouting orders from my hospital bed-ha!)
Could you please let me know if my ph is unacceptable for my Oscar? If it is,
I'll do whatever I can to change it the right way. If it's not that big of a
concern I can quit worrying so much about it.
It seems far too many people start mixing, changing & switching with the "If it
ain't broke, fix it till it is!" mindset and I don't want to do that.
I apologize for the length of this email. What you're doing for the aquarium
hobby is above and beyond the call of duty. I'm so thankful for your website.
Sincerely,
Mitzi
<Mitzi, the first thing to understand is pH is not important. Fish don't feel
pH. What they react to is something called total dissolved solids, or TDS. It
just so happens that high TDS tends to go along with alkaline pH and low TDS
with acid pH. But because pH is "easy" to understand, and TDS is "difficult" to
understand, aquarists often focus on pH instead of TDS. The analogy is IQ.
People often think a high IQ means someone is smarter than someone with a lower
IQ, but the reality is that all IQ measures is someone's ability to succeed at
IQ tests. There are lots of very skilled, capable people like surgeons and
artists and engineers who don't have particularly high IQ levels, and lots of
people with high IQs that do incredibly dumb things and don't have particularly
impressive careers. If you want to change the water chemistry in an aquarium,
what you need to focus on is the TDS, not the pH. Adding magic potions that
raise and lower pH is really wasting time and money. Yes, you can add pH-down
products to an aquarium where the water has a high TDS level. And the pH may
well become acidic for a while. But what you're actually doing is changing one
set of mineral salts to another (through an acid-base reaction). You aren't
removing those mineral salts, so you aren't softening the water in any
meaningful way. If it really was that simple, people wouldn't be spending $100s
on reverse-osmosis water softeners! If you genuinely want to put a soft water
fish into a soft water aquarium, you have two options: use RO water or use
rainwater. I do the latter, because its cheap and easy, but RO has the
advantages of convenience and perhaps greater safety if you live in potentially
polluted areas. Like Chuck suggests, I mix rainwater with hard tap water to get
the water chemistry I want. But adding pH-down chemicals to the water IS NOT an
option, so don't bother. Now, there is some misunderstanding about the water
requirements for Astronotus ocellatus. Wild fish are found in a variety of
habitats with both soft and moderately hard water. They have also become
established outside their natural range (e.g., Florida) where they are living
perfectly well in hard, alkaline water. According to Fishbase, which is based on
wild, not aquarium, fish, Astronotus ocellatus has a hardness range of 5-19
degrees dH, which places your hard water well within its tolerances. I can also
mention at this point that Oscars are routinely kept and bred in very hard, very
alkaline water here in Southern England. Wild Astronotus ocellatus may be a
little more fussy, but the aquarium strains aren't at all fussed. Looking at
your other fish: Severums are found in a range of waters including brackish
water, so they don't care. Blood parrots are some kind of hybrid of Central
American cichlids, so they actually need hard/alkaline water and tend to be
sickly went kept otherwise. Goldfish prefer hard/alkaline water as well. As I've
said many, MANY times most fish will adapt fine to a range of water chemistry
values -- what matters is stability. In fact, very few soft water fish fail to
adapt to hard water; the problems are usually adapting hard water fish (like
livebearers and Mbuna) to soft water conditions -- they usually get plagued with
fungus or simply die. Changing water chemistry is something to do ONLY if you
want to breed a particular species, AND even then ONLY once you are satisfied
you understand what TDS, KH and GH are all about and how they interact with the
conditions in the tank. If you don't understand them, then don't try and change
them. For routine maintenance in display aquaria, stick with the water you have
and concentrate on water QUALITY. So, in short, put the bottle of pH-down potion
away, and just enjoy your fish. Cheers, Neale>
Re: High ph, hard water-Oscar – 09/14/07
Neale (and WWM),
Thank you thank you for the super fast informative answer! You've really put my
mind at ease with such a complete answer. I've no doubt your response will help
many people. What a relief, truly. They've all done so well, grown so fast and
been consistently active for several years, it was hard to wrap my mind around
the possibility that the hard/alkaline water was hurting them. But that's
subjective because my own fish are all I have to compare to on a day to day
basis. I feel very much relieved after your answer. Messing with their pH is
something I certainly didn't want to have to do.
I've got dogs, cats, pet sheep, a pet rat, a dove and my other fish but this
little $6 Oscar from PetSmart has given me more laughs and relaxation than
anything else money could buy. Such intelligence and personality they have! I
think doctors should prescribe an Oscar instead of Prozac and they'd have better
results :-)
Thank you again for your words.
Mitzi
<Mitzi, glad to be of help. Yes, people do get worked into a lather over water
chemistry, but the bottom line is that with freshwater fish at least it is
relatively unimportant. Oscars are wonderful fish, and seem truly to have a
genuine affection for human companions. There are many stories about people
teaching them tricks and games. And yes, the therapeutic value of fish tanks is
quite well known. They seem to slow people's heart rates and generally reduce
stress. And simply working with animals and plants is just plain good for the
soul. So enjoy your animals, and good luck. Neale>
Tiger Oscar Cichlid, beh., sys. -
7/23/07
Hi,
I recently bought two tiger cichlids at about 1.5 inch for a 30 gallon tank.
The two fishes are on the aquarium floor and do not move, although I can still
see them wiggle a little bit. I was wondering if this is normal, or if there is
some thing wrong with them? They also haven't eaten anything yet.
Thanks for your time,
John
<Hello John. Tiger Oscars are, as you know, going to grow into huge cichlids
that CANNOT be kept safely in a 30 gallon tank. In the meantime though, if any
Oscar is not swimming about and not hungry, you can assume something is wrong.
Precisely what, I cannot say without more information. What are the water
conditions? Hardness, pH, nitrite, and nitrate all matter here. What sort of
filtration are you using? Like all cichlids, Oscars are very sensitive to
dissolved metabolites in the water, i.e., if you don't do big, regular water
changes -- the fish WILL get sick. You're remembering to add dechlorinator each
time you change the water? There are no aggressive fish in the tank (Oscars are
rather gentle, and easily bullied). What foods are you using? Juvenile Oscars
are generally quite outgoing fish, but if the tank has no shade for them, they
might feel exposed. Oscars are often mistreated by retailers. Check for signs of
parasitic infections. It is common for people to feed them cheap feeder fish,
and this gets them infected with internal bacteria and parasites. As you
probably know, the ideal diet for Oscars contains no live fish at all, but
rather crunchy invertebrates (what they eat in the wild) plus good quality
cichlid pellets (Hikari Cichlid Gold is excellent, but there are others).
Cheers, Neale>
Water Requirements For An Oscar
5/30/07
Hi, I have a 75 gal. aquarium with one large Plecostomus and I am planning
to get one tiger Oscar in the next few weeks. What I need to know is I bought a
Tap Water Filter for Aquariums. It came with a bottle of Electro-Right and a
bottle of pH adjuster that I use in the water for my community aquarium to make
perfect water for them. The directions say to make perfect water for African
Cichlids to add African Cichlid Salts and buffers to the filtered water. Does
this sound right for the Oscar or is there something else that I should do and
also what is the right pH for a Oscar. Thanks for your help. Nancy
< Your Oscar originally came from the Amazon basin in South America. Your actual
Oscar probably was born and bred in Asia. African cichlid salts and buffers are
not needed for your Oscar. Treat the water as you for your community
tank.-Chuck>
Re: Water Requirements For An Oscar
5/30/07
Thanks for the quick answer. One more quick question what is the proper PH
for this Aquarium. And again thanks for the quick answer. Nancy
<Greetings. Oscars are pretty adaptable, and anything suitable for community
tropical fish will be fine. The ideal would be slightly acidic to neutral pH
(6.0-7.0) and low to moderate hardness. Your Plecostomus will want the same sort
of conditions. But really, provided the water isn't excessively hard (over 20
dH) or alkaline (much above pH 7.5) you don't really need to be fussed.
Performing regular water changes to keep the water quality good is far more
important to their health than worrying about the pH and hardness. Cheers,
Neale>
Extended period of not eating/lesions/possible parasites? Oscar hlth.,
env. - 03/02/07
Greetings Experts,
<All.... right>
I've been reading the FAQ and I am very impressed with your crew's level of
dedication.
<Me too>
However I've read through a few pages and I'm still not sure on a course of
action. I would really appreciate any help you can give. We've been caring for
a 12" tiger Oscar (his name is Grouch - get it? Grouch the Oscar? Get it?)
<Uh huh... shades of the Muppets>
for a few years now - he belonged to a former housemate and has been on
"semi-permanent loan" for quite a while, and we have of course grown quite fond
of him. He lives by himself in a tank that is somewhere around 60-65
gallons. He has been healthy and happy the whole time and we have never had any
problems before.
Over the past few weeks, he has stopped eating. At first he was doing the thing
where he would spit out more food than he normally does; but by now, I would say
that I haven't seen him eat anything at all in well over a week. We feed him
pellets only (no feeders), which he has always enjoyed just fine. I generally
keep up with weekly water changes (around 40-50%) and vacuuming, although I
missed a few weeks in a row recently - not sure if that's related.
<Assuredly this is... a "build up" (accumulation) of waste products,
derivatives... could easily account for the observed/related behavior>
He has always had bouts of aggressive swimming, but in the past few weeks he
seems to have gotten into a few "fights" with the large wood decoration in his
tank (and lost). He had a few scrapes as a result which seem to be
healing. BUT, he now has several spots on the front of his head that have tufts
of what looks like mold growing out of
them. Is this the "hole in the head" disease I've been reading about, or are
these just infected areas that he scraped?
<Related... are likely "neuromast" degenerative markings of some sort...
environmental...>
Either way, is it time to medicate the water, and if so what would you
recommend?
<Mmm, not time to medicate, but time to get back into and adhere to the previous
maintenance routine... Also, I'd try enlarging this animal's diet a bit...
perhaps (if you're not too squeamish) a few live earthworms... Mealworms...
Crickets...>
Finally, I've noticed a few small (as in pencil-point small) creatures crawling
around on his skin. They appear as tiny white dots, but when you get up close
you can see that they're moving. They also appear on the wood decoration. What
the heck are these things, and more importantly, do you think they might be
related to his illness?
<Can't tell... but these too are very likely positively correlatable with the
cessation of water changes, vacuuming... and will "go" as well...>
The thing I am most worried about right now is his not eating. How long can
this go on for?
<Likely weeks>
And more importantly, how can I get him to start eating again?
<Improved conditions... live foods...>
I'm hoping you can help with any info that you can. I'd like to hear what the
Oscar specialists have to say before I randomly walk into a random pet store and
find some random clerk and just say, "Um, my fish is sick." Thanks for any
help. I (and Grouch) thank you.
- Chris
<Thank you for writing... If there's funds for such, I would invest in a few
test kits... pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate... I suspect the first has fallen and
the latter are over 20 ppm... Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/oscars.htm and the linked files
above. Bob Fenner>
My 3 Oscars aren't getting along... 1/26/07
I have 3 Oscars (1 Albino Tiger [4"], 1 Tiger [3.5"] and 1 Red [2"] all in a
47 gal. tank)
<Trouble... not enough room, one too small...>
and the albino (Whiteout) and the tiger (Butthead) are getting along but they
keep leaving the red (Beavis) out of their activities.
Whiteout and Butthead, I think, are a pair from what I have researched, they
stick together and explore the tank daily hardly leaving the other's side.
<Territorial animals... a 47 is too small...>
Beavis is kind of a solitary guy and he tries to get along with the two but
whenever he gets too close, the two take turns butting him in the side.
Only when it comes to feeding do they get along and it's the better hunter who
gets the feeders
<A very poor idea... see WWM re>
(which is usually Whiteout). I want to know what to do with them and should I
introduce another Oscar so that Beavis can have a
mate?
<Mmm, no... need to remove the smallest fish... pronto... or it will be killed>
I've read the other FAQ's on your site and I do not want Beavis to be stressed
and so far he isn't showing signs of that yet.
Thanks,
Nicole
<Another tank... eventually a much larger tank... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/oscars.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
Fighting Oscars Are Getting Hot 12/24/06
I have two four-year old Oscars in a 90 gallon tank with a Pleco. Up until
about six months ago, I had three, and, periodically, they would do frequent
battle, sometimes nearly to the death for at least one, but all had their turns
at coming out on top and on the bottom.
Just when it reached the point that I had decided to get rid of two of them (I
put up a "free Oscar" poster at the local pet supply store but nobody bit), one
died mysteriously and after that, there was peace. The other two got along for
months with no trouble at all.
That peace ended the day before yesterday, when they suddenly started fighting
ferociously. They fought so hard and so violently that I fear one or both may
have wound up with broken jaws. Neither have taken a bite of food sense and the
way their mouths look, and the way they are both swimming about with their jaws
hanging down, I am not certain they can take a bite right now.
I was wondering why two peaceful fish would suddenly go to war with each other
like that. As I have been traveling, I had not cleaned their tank for three
weeks (my wife cared for them while I was gone but that care does not extend to
tank cleaning) and I wondered if maybe there was a water-quality issue that had
caused them to get cranky.
This afternoon, I interrupted the continuing brawl to clean their tank and when
my skin came in contact with their water, I surprised at how warm it was. So I
looked at the thermometer and it was 84 degrees! I try to keep it at 76 and I
don't know how that happened, as the setting on the heater was just where it was
supposed to be.
I have been cooling the tank down slowly and it is now down to 80 degrees.
Tomorrow I will bring it down to 76. Could this warm water have triggered the
battle? They are still making intimidating feints at each other, but there has
been no more of the fierce fighting since I cleaned the tank.Thanks,Bill
< This is probably a combination of too much food from an inexperienced aquarist
and temperatures rising. Big fish can be pretty tough on aquarium equipment. I
would recommend getting a titanium or stainless steel heater for this tank. As
the water temps cool down things should settle down.>
PS: After you answer this question, I have a green terror question for you.
< You may have to wait awhile after x-mas to get a response.-Chuck> \
Oscar Set Up 9/26/06
Hey guys! I found your website to be filled so much awesome info. I'm just
curious. What would be the ideal aquarium and equipment for a pair of Oscars?
It'll be future reference for me. Thanks a lot and have a good one! Kev
<A 100 gallon aquarium with two Marineland Emperor 400 filters. A metal heater
set at 78 F. A Python Water change system for doing 25 gallon weekly water
changes. Large Spectrum pellets for food.-Chuck>
Can you recommend a filtration for an Oscar tank set-up?
Hi Bob!
<<Hi, Kristi. Tom with you, actually.>>
Love your site! It has really helped in my research of starting up an
Oscar tank.
<<Glad to hear we've been of help so far.>>
I am a seasoned vet at raising and maintaining a community fish tank, now I want
to try my hand at an Oscar tank.
<<A worthwhile project, Kristi.>>
I have a 42 gallon tank that I have set aside for this purpose. It is an
Eclipse tank and filtration system.
<<Might not seem like it on the surface, Kristi, but 42 gallons is a bit small
for an Oscar. Maintaining optimal water conditions become a bit problematic and
the smaller, relatively speaking, sized tank is likely to increase
aggressiveness and territoriality issues. A 55-gallon tank is really a better
size here.>>
I have read many articles on filtration, i.e. internal and external filters.
I read up on a filter that has a built-in heater. Are these better?
<<Likely the one of the Eheim Thermofilter models. You'd be hard-pressed to find
a better filter, in my opinion. Having the heater "self-contained" has the
obvious advantage of maintaining more uniform tank temperatures by returning
water to the tank straight from the heat source. Tends to eliminate hot and cold
spots that can occur with conventional heaters.>>
If I have this size tank, what size GPH should I look for in a filter?
<<I'd look in the 250-300 GPH range, Kristi. This would give you 6-7+
full-volume exchanges per hour.>>
I only want one Oscar, one convict and one pleco to reside in the tank.
Would these overcrowd the tank in the future?
<<I believe you should consider not adding the Convict Cichlid. Here, again, I'm
returning to the size of your tank. The Convict and the Oscar might get along in
a much larger environment - though even this is up for debate - but in a
42-gallon tank, I'd practically guarantee a fight. The Oscar and the Pleco
should do okay together, though.>>
Would they be good tank mates if placed in the tank as babies?
<<The Oscar and Pleco will, yes.>>
Should I only add one at a time after cycling the tank?
<<I would add both, together, as juveniles. Were you to add one before the
other, the order would be the Pleco, first, followed by the Oscar. This would
reduce any issues with the Oscar rapidly making the entire tank "his"
territory.>>
Thanks for your help!
Kristi
<<Happy to do so, Kristi, and best of luck with your new venture! Tom>>
Tank for Oscars 9/6/06
Hi everybody (with Dr. Nick from the Simpson's accent)! Just wondering
how big of a tank a group of six Oscars (space for full grown) will need,
better in l x w x h then gallons.
-Jack
< You want a tank with lots of bottom surface area. Stay away from very tall
tanks. At a minimum you want a 150 gallon tank. Bigger would be better.
Especially if a pair decide to spawn.-Chuck>
Will a single Oscar get lonely? 9/4/06
Hello!
<Hi there>
You may have answered this, but I was wondering if just one Oscar would
get lonely by itself?
<Not likely... has you! As company>
I do not currently own a large tank or an Oscar, but I like the idea of one
Oscar with plenty of room for itself. However, I don't want to be cruel to
an animal that would prefer companionship. Is one okay?
<Yes>
How big would one Oscar get alone?
<About the same size... a foot or so>
How big a tank should I get?
<The bigger the better... at least forty gallons... sixty or more...>
Thanks--I just found your website tonight and it's great!
Dorothy Wilson
<Thank you for writing, sharing. Bob Fenner>
My Oscars are living in spite of me 8/25/06
I have a display tank in my office ( 13 inches across, 9 inched deep, 48
inches high - 30 gallons) and 2 new Oscars ( a tiger and a red Oscar)
<Not enough room...>
My clients told me to get Oscars... they told me to give them feeder fish.
<A very poor idea>
They told me not to worry about cleaning the filter too much , or changing the
water every week. I've listened to them , and the Oscars are fine ( I thought
swimming up and down would be a problem, by they are fine) After reading the
faq's , I see I'm doing everything wrong. I only have time on Sundays to do
anything more than 5 minutes of work. Where should I start?
;-)avi
<Regular water changes... weekly, stop feeding feeders for all the reasons
stated on WWM... Look into larger quarters... Bob Fenner>
Re: My Oscar, Sys., seashells best at the seashore 8/1/06
Hmm.. I sent you an email earlier today, asking about my new Oscar. I know
on your web page it says read and you'll more than likely find what you're
looking for, and I think I found one of the answers to one of the questions I
had asked. (the one about why my new Oscar lays at the bottom of the tank) I
still am curious as to whether sea shells are good for the tank or not.
<Generally not useful for freshwater systems on two counts: they too-likely
change water quality by dissolving... to conditions you don't want. And
secondly, the shells sharp edges are too likely to physically damage the fishes>
they're pretty, but If they are harmful I'll take them out. I have two in there.
so there's not that many. Anyways...one more question, and sorry for the bother:
I currently have a 10 gallon tank with a two inch or smaller tiger Oscar. I know
that is probably two small.
<Yes, will need more room... soon>
but it's all I can have right now. When should I upgrade to a larger tank?
<ASAPractical>
What size of Oscar is considered too large for my tank? Thanks.
<Likely at 3 inches or so... Bob Fenner>
Frightened Fish, Oscars 7/11/06
<<Hello, Krista. Tom with you.>>
I currently have two Oscars and a pleco in a 55 gal tank. I have had them
for about two months. At first they were extremely friendly. They would
swim to the front of the tank when I came home from work and were friendly
towards each other.
<<Okay.>>
Recently they seem to be extremely frightened by any movement at all. They
will come out when I feed them but hide immediately after. I am thinking of
taking their favorite hiding place out of the tank and rearranging some
things. Is this a good idea or is there anything else I can do?
<<Like taking a sick child's temperature, the first thing I would recommend
is looking to your water conditions/parameters. Cichlids certainly like
their hiding places and retreat there when feeling stressed. Since Oscars
can be pretty outgoing animals, particularly when they recognize the person
who provides the "yummies", I'd be looking for the reason that they now seem
fearful of movement outside the tank. Sounds like there's more than meets
the eye here, Krista.>>
I don't want to stress them out but I don't want them to hide all day
either?
<<As a rule, I try to bear in mind that the tanks are my "displays" but
they're my fishes' homes. Your pets have nowhere to "run" so taking away
their "sanctuaries" will likely make matters worse. Again, I'd look at
what's going on inside your tank before rearranging things. Specifically,
I'd look to see if there are parameters that are in serious fluctuation like
hardness, pH and temperature. Is there a possibility of an ammonia, or
nitrite, spike that you might not be aware of? Even nitrate levels are
something to be considered with these fish. Unlikely that this would
manifest itself after only two months but do you feed them a varied diet?
This is a misunderstood and very underestimated source of problems with
fish. Even high quality foods, when there's no variety, can lead to
health/stress problems. Usually these don't show up for quite some time but
let's look at all possibilities here.>>
Thank you
Krista
<<You're welcome, Krista. Tom>>
Very Spoiled Oscar Questions, nod to Sab, 6/13/06
Hi! I hope there isn't a limit to the number of emails a person can send?
<Heeee! I wish there were a number to those I answer!>
I think this is my 4th. Thank you for all the great information and advice you
have on your site (even the "bad" news kind). Also, please forward my thanks to
Sabrina.
<Ah, will do>
She answered an email about my female Betta Splendens last month. Sadly, she
died, but at least her last days were in water that was only dechlorinated, with
a little API aquarium salt added. I'm sure it was easier for her, if dying can
be considered easy, than being in the 'toxic soup' of medications I'd been
subjecting her to. I just wish I'd emailed sooner!
My email today, is in regard to my husband's Tiger Oscar, Vinny (Astronotus
ocellatus). We've had him about a month to six weeks. He was about 2 inches
when we got him, and I'd estimate him to be 3 & 1/2 to 4 inches now. He is in a
fully cycled 30 gallon tank. Now, I know this is the part where you start
getting annoyed, followed by cursing under your breath, possibly yelling at my
email, perhaps making rude gestures, and finally in utter frustration, banging
the keyboard against your head, but please bare with me.....
<Heeeeeee! Larger tank please>
The tank was cycled, and then inhabited by, 3 Dwarf Gourami, 12 Corydoras
Catfish (mixed), and a school of 18 Harlequin Rasboras prior to Vinny's
occupancy. I had nightmares about the 'cute baby Oscar' eating my beloved Corys
<You are/were right to be concerned here>
when my husband told me he wanted an Oscar, so I made the deal that we'd up
grade the community to larger digs, and then he could have an Oscar. The tank
had/has a Rena Filstar Xp2 (300/gph) and a Penguin 350 dual BioWheel (350/gph)
for filtration. When we moved the 'community' we left the filtration, just took
the fish and their decorations, plants, etc. The Xp2 is running with 4 foam
filters (2 - 20 ppi, 2 - 30 ppi) on the bottom, and a micro-filtration pad on
the top. The center is all bio-media, consisting of a mix of Filstar's Bio-chem
Stars, Fluval's bio-cylinders, and Aqua Clear's Bio-max stones. The 350 has one
Aquatic Gardens replacement filter (the kind with the mechanical pad around the
carbon - looks like three stacked pillows and a blue bio-sponge all inside a
frame). In addition, there is a net bag with Seachem's Biostones, the wheel
from a now defunct Penguin 150 (it was fully mature, and I didn't want to lose
the colony on it), and 2 Fluval 1 Plus foam sponges (had them, don't have the
unit anymore, so figured why not). The water flows freely to both sides, so the
media compartment is full, but not stuffed (no overflow, good, steady and even,
return water from both sides). I also have a Whisper 60 air pump (with backflow
valve) hooked up to/running a 4 inch airstone bar, a 3 inch airstone circle,
and a simple sponge filter (for 25 gallons - "maturing" it for use, when needed,
in a sick/quarantine/fry type applications).
<Good>
The tank has two 75 watt heaters (one on each end). For decoration Vinny has
two 10 inch (diameter) fake water lilies floating on the surface (he likes to
sit/float/hover under them). He has about 1/3 of the bottom covered with around
1/2 to 3/4 inch of gravel and smooth 'river' rocks, the rest (mostly under the
log) is bare. The gravel and stones cover the two air stones, which form a nice
bubble-wall across the end of one side of the tank. He plays in the bubbles
daily. Lastly, he has a large fake log. It's a very large log! It takes up
about 1/2 of the bottom of the tank from side to side, about 1/4 to 1/3 the
height, and 2/3 of the bottom from front to back. It's open on both ends and
has a hole in one side toward the center. He'd had a small flat top cave the
first couple weeks, but was already outgrowing it. I guess my husband figured
the new log would last him a lot longer! He gets a 50% water change weekly.
<I'd restrict this to about a quarter per week/time>
I use Tetra's Aqua Safe OR Kordon's Nova Aqua Plus + OR Seachem's Prime, to
condition the new water, which is matched to the tank water's temperature. I
also use a dose of Hagen's Cycle, API's Stresszyme, Mardel's A.C.T., OR
Seachem's Stability with each water change. The filters are serviced
bi-monthly, alternating weeks (i.e.: week 1 the 350, week 2 the Xp2, week 3 the
350, an so on).
<Good practice>
I rinse the pads/foam in discard water only. I replace the Xp2's pads
alternately every other month (1 30ppi and 1 20ppi is new and the other 2 are
mature at any given time). The micro pad I change every two weeks, since it
doesn't rinse well. I usually leave the bio-medium alone, or do a light
swishing in discard water (while it's in the basket). I don't normally replace
it, should I be?
<No... should last for years... with the occasional rinse...>
I replace the 350's filter (mechanical/chemical) part every two weeks, but just
rinse the bio-sponge. The rest (150's BioWheel, Fluval Sponges, etc) I usually
leave alone, other than to rinse them at least monthly (again swishing in the
discard bucket). In between water changes we also have an Eheim battery
operated hand vacuum than I use to help contain the mess Vinny makes (which is
also why he doesn't have full gravel, so I can see when he has build up) He
gets fasted for one 24 hour period weekly. We feed him Hikari's Cichlid Staple
mini pellets, Hikari's Cichlid Gold mini pellets, HBH's Super Soft Pellets with
Krill, Tetra's Baby Shrimp (Sun dried Gammarus), Hikari's Freeze-dried Ocean
Plankton, and Tetra's Food sticks (the smaller ones). I make sure he gets three
of the Cichlid pellets twice a day (6 total between the Gold and Staple), along
with one mouthful of the Plankton after the pellets, each of the two
feedings. My husband usually gives him the HBH soft pellets and/or the baby
shrimp "snacks" two or three times a day. I try to limit the "snacks" to one or
two pellets and one or two of the baby shrimp, but I'm going on trust that he's
not sneaking Vinny extra. Since Vinny can move around the tank, and hasn't
quadrupled in girth, I'm assuming he's not being overfed? Should he be getting
more? I imagine he could bolt down a lot more in 2 or 3 minutes time. He
usually only gets the food sticks (2) at the meal before his water change. He's
very piggy with them, and has been know to 'spew' chunks all around him so he
has room for the second one. Then he goes around and picks up the chunks after
he's finished the second one. Out of necessity, we've been getting more
accurate on guessing whether he's had time to finish the first one, or not. He
has two 'toys' in his tank. A golf ball size whiffle ball (hollow with lots of
holes) that he pushes around, chases when it's in the filter current, or pushes
into the glass to get attention (my husband unwittingly reinforced that
habit). He also has a plastic plant. It has a small (non-toxic) weight wrapped
around it's base, to keep it on the bottom of the tank. He lays next to it, and
moves it a little, but seems to like the ball better. I use 5 in 1 stick tests
(Mardel or Jungle) 3 to 5 times a week, and do liquid tests twice weekly. I
test for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, and pH. The stick does GH and kH as
well. I do the liquid GH and kH tests once every 4 to 6 weeks. His tank tests
are: Ammonia: 0, Nitrites: 0, Nitrates: 20-30ppm (usually 20), kH: 11, and
pH is 8.0 by stick and liquid test and 7.8 per the electric gadget my husband
got (not sure I trust it). His temp. is stable at 77/78 degrees (have a
thermometer on each end). I also have a Seachem ammonia alert badge in the tank
as a backup. So, if you're still with me, my questions are: 1. Is it possible
to keep him in the 30 gallon, meet AND still exceed his needs, or are we doomed
to failure?
<Will need to be moved to larger quarters in time... You might use the limit of
20ppm of nitrate as a guide as to when...>
2. Do all Oscars try to damage/eat/rearrange the equipment in their tank?
<Oh yes...>
He's shown no interest in the heaters, thermometers, ammo. badge, filter
intakes, etc. Is it wishful thinking that he won't start tearing the tank up?
<Likely so>
I'm not counting the gravel, he can move it to his heart's content. I look at
it like the 'tank is for him, not for me' line of thought. If I wanted a
'garden' I'd dig one in the back yard.... wanted a pretty picture, I'd hang it
on the wall, sort of thing. I'm mainly concerned about him hurting
himself...... Vinny vs. Electricity...... doesn't seem like it would have a
great outcome. 3. Can a fish get burned on a submersible heater?
<Yes... more possibility of breakage, electricity troubles here though... When
this fish is larger, in its bigger quarters, there are ways you can remote or
surround the heater/s to avoid such>
I've seen things about putting a piece of pvc pipe over the heater? Would an
in-line heater in the canister's return line be a better way to go?
<Yes... as stated, will want to do with move to a bigger tank... when Vinny is
larger...>
4. What other kinds of 'toys' are safe/suitable for an Oscar?
<Most anything plastic...>
The plant was a no brainer, as it was aquarium safe. The whiffle ball was
harder, but since it wasn't colored, was too big to swallow, too small to scare
him, and light enough not to break/crack the glass, we let him have it, after
I'd thoroughly rinsed it in hot water. However, finding other items hasn't been
working out. My husband wanted to look at dog and cat toys or baby toys, but I
talked him out of it, since most are colored. I convinced him the dyes in the
plastic could be toxic when mixed with Vinny's water.... baby safe isn't fish
safe.... so to speak. Was I wrong?
<Mmm, "baby safe" is likely okay, chemically inert>
5. Can you estimate/guesstimate how long he'd be better than 'okay' in the 30
gallon?
<Six months perhaps>
For instance, if he only gets to 10 inches, would he be okay to stay in it?
<Mmm, no... will likely want to move when 4-6 inches...>
6. I have an extra filter, a Fluval 3 Plus internal filter (185/gph), should I
hook that up in his tank as well?
<Could>
Is there anything else that I can do to keep him in the 30 gallon
longer/permanently?
<Mmm, if absolutely necessary, an experiment... could continuously to almost
continuously change water... to reduce metabolites and their ill effects>
A larger tank is not an option right now. When it was safe to do so, we added
new members to the new 55 gallon 'community' tank, so they can't go back into
the 30 gallon. We have 6 more Harlequin Rasboras (total school of 24) plus the
12 Corys, and 9 mixed Platys. The three Dwarf Gouramis were moved to a 20 long,
along with the male Platys (THAT is another long story). We don't have room for
another 55 gallon (or the money for that matter). Returning Vinny is not an
option, my husband is completely attached to him. Any tips, pointers,
suggestions, etc would be most appreciated. Thank you!!
<I strongly suspect that you two are "evolving" your hobby into more advanced
groups of fishes... will either "find room" or move the Oscar to the 55... Can
saltwater, reef systems be very far ahead? We'll see. Bob Fenner>
Very Spoiled Oscar Questions, nod to Sab, and a nod back - 06/14/2006
Hi! I hope there isn't a limit to the number of emails a person can send?
<Heeee! I wish there were a number to those I answer!>
I think this is my 4th. Thank you for all the great information and advice you
have on your site (even the "bad" news kind). Also, please forward my thanks to
Sabrina.
<Ah, will do>
<<I'm glad to have helped, or at least glad fo having tried to help.>>
She answered an email about my female Betta Splendens last month. Sadly, she
died,
<<I'm so sorry to hear this, Heidi.>>
but at least her last days were in water that was only dechlorinated, with a
little API aquarium salt added. I'm sure it was easier for her, if dying can be
considered easy, than being in the 'toxic soup' of medications I'd been
subjecting her to.
<<I'm sure you made her as comfortable as possible.>>
I just wish I'd emailed sooner!
<<No worries.... We do what we can. You did the best you knew to do. I'm glad
you wrote to us at all, and gave us and yourself a chance to learn
together. Wishing you and all the lives in your care well, -Sabrina>>
My Oscar, beh., systems 6/13/06
Hmm. I'm new to the raising of Oscars, and I have not actually had mine for
more than two weeks, but I have some questions to ask that I couldn't find
in the FAQ, or if the answers are there, I overlooked them. I have a tiger
Oscar, barely two inches right now. He's in a 10 gallon tank, and I'm
working on getting a larger one soon.
<Good>
The water balance appears suitable for him but he's shy. He hides at the bottom
anytime I am in the room or the lights are on.
<Still just getting used to your setting... This fish will become more outgoing
in time>
He eats, but only after I leave the room. (I know this because the food will be
gone when I come back a few hours later and they
won't be stuck in the filter.) I also know that Oscars are messy fish, so I
clean the filter and the tank (never doing a full water change) regularly. I
feed him Hikari Oscar pellet food. is there anything I'm doing wrong?
<Not thus far>
Or is it normal for a Oscar to do this for a couple of weeks until it is
comfortable in its new tank?
<Yes>
I keep the water at 74 F.. and the only stuff in the tank with him are rocks and
shells. Are the shells bad for him?
<Possibly. I would leave these out>
I keep a pleco in there as well..
<This fish also needs much more room...>
and he leaves it alone.. I don't know. I would appreciate some insight, even if
it's to tell me I'm being dense and there's no problem. Thanks.
<No worries... Bob Fenner>
Re: My Oscar 6/13/06
I appreciate the quick reply. It really makes me feel better to know that,
other than the too small tank, the fish is behaving normal. Thanks very much! (I
removed the shells too)
~Jennifer
<Ahh, good and thank you for sharing. Bob Fenner>
Future Oscar tank 4/26/06
I currently own a 225 Gallon tank that used to house a my tropical community
fish. A few years ago I had to go overseas for work, so I gave away/sold
all the fish to friends with healthy and compatible aquaria in an effort to
provide them with good homes during my absence.
I have recently returned and have no intention of leaving again. This time
around, I want to set up an Oscar tank. However, since I have never kept
cichlids, I am endeavoring to do all the necessary research on the subject
before I set up the tank again and go out to buy fish.
Here are my questions:
1. I would like to house 2 Oscars in the tank. What do you suggest as the
ideal number of Oscars for a tank my size?
< About 100 gallons if they get along.>
2. I find the common Plecostomus endlessly amusing and would like to include
one in my tank. Is this too much bioload? If not, what size pleco
should I buy to ensure that the Oscar doesn't grow large enough to eat it?
(I plan on buying 1-2 inch Oscars)
< The regular pleco gets over 12 inches long. Get one about 4 to 5 inches long
with a couple 2 inch Oscars and the Oscars will never get big enough to eat
them. With good filtration and regular water changes they will be fine.>
3. Most importantly, I would very much like to have an albino tiger Oscar.
You mention that they tend to be less aggressive and might have trouble
competing for food. Is there a way of overcoming this? Are there any more
albino-specific challenges to be aware of? Light sensitivity perhaps?
Decreased longevity?
< Albino Oscars may not grow as fast or as large as normal colored Oscars. When
mixed together the normals almost always seem to dominate.-Chuck>
I do look forward to hearing from you, and thank you in advance for your
time. Shankari
Adding An Oscar To a 55 Gallon Tank - 03/12/2006
Hey, I currently have a 55g Freshwater Tank with the following inhabitants:
12 inch Plecostomus
10 inch tinfoil barb
6 inch Bala Sharks (2)
8 inch Senegal Bichir
6 inch Columbian Shark
4 inch Cory Catfish
What would I have to do to be able to house one Tiger Oscar?
< Not recommended. Your Bala sharks and Colombian shark are still growing and
your 55 gallon will soon be too small even for them.-Chuck>
Oscar health question ... more systems- 2/28/2006
I am new to the wonderful world of fishes. And have recently purchased an
adorable little 1.5 inch black with white stripes Oscar (no idea what type
tag on the tank said fancy Oscar).
<All are the same species... as with domestic dogs...>
My worry is that normal fish swim with there body remotely flat like - my little
guy swims at an angle close to / (Sorry only way I can describe it). it’s how we
swam when I
purchased him I want to know if he is ill with anything or if this is normal?
<Small Oscars do "wag" a bit in swimming>
I have tried looking online and asked at the pet store (they looked at me like i
was stupid but couldn't help me). I came by your web site and found it to be the
most informative and helpful site i have found. Please let me know if you think
something is wrong with him what it is and what I can do. Right now he is in a
10gal tank (upgrading to a min of 75g as by the end of the year) He has 3 tank
mates 2 1.25 inch Jack Dempseys and a 4.5 inch pleco everyone gets along fine.
<Do keep your eye on the Dempseys... the behavior you describe may be largely
"submissive" re their presence>
Will these fish have issues when they get bigger?
<Yes... much more so in crowded confines>
Or do you think they should be fine in a 75g tank.
Thank You for taking the time to answer my questions
Robert
<Should be fine there for a good long while. With careful observation, you
should be able to discern whether trouble is excessive. Bob Fenner>
Setting Up An Oscar Tank 1/11/06
Hi Crew. I now have two successful tanks and a lot of credit goes to your
site.
Planning on setting up my third tank This will be a Oscar only tank.
Specs are; Tank size- 55g- 3x1.5x1.5, Substrate= 2” Brown river sand
appropriately treated Plants= Artificial, Can I keep live plants?
< No>
Filter= Internal Power filter, Thermometer, & heater Suggestions & Comments
please?
Thanks Sandeep R
<Go with an external power filter that pumps at least 200gph. Go with an
unbreakable heater. Never feed live fish without taking the proper
precautions.-Chuck>
Getting An Oscar - 01/09/2006
I am interested in getting an Oscar. I've never had one before. I have tried
to research them but, not having much luck on figuring out how to tell the males
apart from the females. I also am confused on what to feed them. Some sites say
to feed them smaller feeder fish, and other say not to. What do you suggest?? I
am confused....... Can you help??? Jess
<Oscars get up around 12+ inches so you will need a big tank of at least 75
gallons when it is full grown. They are messy cichlids so you will need a very
good filter too. Get one that pumps the volume of the tank at least 3 to 5 times
per hour. I would recommend an outside power filter. Water should be around 80
F. When small feed flakes and small pellets. Larger fish could be fed
earthworms, pellets and frozen foods. Feeders are not recommended because they
are living fish that can carry diseases into your tank. Treating a large tank is
not any fun. It is expensive, time consuming and difficult on your fish.-Chuck>
Little Tank + Big Messy Fish = Uh-Oh 1/8/06
Great site guys thanks....
<Thank you and your welcome.>
I've had two Oscars and 2 Plecos in a 30 gallon tank ( I know need to
upgrade)
<Hehe, understatement of the new year.>
Oscars are still young the larger being 4inches. Everything has been fine with
them until 2 days ago no appetite, swimming erratically- vertically, on their
side, the smaller seems to have scratches on the fins, and both seem to have a
cloudy like film on their entire body.
<Indicative of poor water quality.>
I haven't seen any ich marks need help....Thanks
<Well as you allude to above this tank is quite small for the size and type of
animals you have. Plecos and Oscars are very messy critters. I’m willing to be
there is some nutrient accumulation going on here, what are your test results
for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates? Adam J.>
Oscar Tank 12/22/05
Hi!
These are my readings.
Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrates-5ppm
Ph~7.2
Is that a good healthy reading for my Oscar to live in?
<Water looks good, what size tank are we talking about? Maybe something around
75gallons or so? -Gage>
New Oscars and Water Changes 12/21/05
Hello, I have a question, I have a 80 gallon aquarium; it has wet/dry
trickle filter and 20 watt UV sterilizer. I have cycled the aquarium and
put variety of fishes like tetras , sword tails, African and Amazonian cichlids.
I used to clean the aquarium and 20% water change every 4 weeks. Now I want to
put 2 Oscars in it. But from the websites I found Oscars need weekly water
change. So my questions are:
1.With the sterilizer I am still required to change 20% water weekly?
< The UV sterilizer kills bacteria and pathogens in the water. You change water
to reduce the nitrate levels in the tank. One has nothing to do with the other.
Yes you still need to do weekly water changes.>
2. And on every weekly water change do I have put the chemicals like aqua safe
dechlorinator, vitamin, stress zyme etc.?
<If you have chlorine or chloramine in the water then it needs to be treated or
it will be harmful to your fish. Most water conditioners can take care of both
but you will have to read the bottle to be sure. For an average aquarium I think
that is all you need. When you add the Oscars the tetras and swords are in
danger of being eaten.-Chuck.> Thanks
Filtration and Sanity 12/12/05
To whom it may concern,
<I'm always concerned, the shrink says that's not healthy though.>
I am setting up a 100 gal for two Oscars. I already a Fluval 304 and a penguin
bio wheel 305 power filter. I was wanting to purchase one more filter for my
system and was wandering if you have any suggestions on which type or brand.
<Well what you have seems to be sufficient but if you want my opinion on
filtration, I love the EHEIM canisters/wet-dry combo for freshwater use, I would
also purchase a few powerheads for some water movement.>
thanks for your time.
<Welcome, Adam J.>
New Tank Setup for Oscars 11/9/05
Good morning! I've consulted you in the past and received some wonderful
information on my 29 gal set up. Thank you for all of your advice as things are
running smoothly with that system.
<Welcome>
With that said, I am looking to purchase a 55 gal tank and am interested in
Oscars. I have read that only one Oscar can live in this environment.
<Ultimately... yes... though a few could be started here, moved to larger
quarters down the line... better for this species socially to not be raised
solitarily>
My question is, can a Pleco also live with this one Oscar or is the 55 gal only
suitable for the one Oscar?
<Yes to the Pleco addition>
Additionally if I were to purchase two Oscars and one Pleco, can you tell me the
tank size needed for that?
<Maybe an eighty gallon plus in time>
I love the idea of having a tank with larger fish. I know with larger fish, come
space requirements. I do not want unhealthy or unhappy fishes, so thank you for
your help in advance of me purchasing a set up.
Anne
<Thank you for sharing your plans, concerns. Bob Fenner>
Big Fish For Not So Big Tank 10/21/05
I own a 55 gal tank that houses two Oscars, one tiger about 3" and a red
Oscar about 2". I have been watching them and at fist they been just swimming
together, now the bigger seems to be dominating the smaller one. Is this normal?
< Yes. Cichlids are very territorial and this often happens with two fish in the
tank.>
I also plan to get a red devil to complete my tank. Would this be advisable
since I always had red devils and liked them in my tank.
If not a red devil what about a Tilapia butikoferi?
< Your 55 gallon will hold one adult fish. Pick one and get rid of or don't get
the rest. All of the fish you have picked can get over a foot long over
time.-Chuck>
Oscars Dig Undergravel Filters 9/13/05
I want to first say that I am impressed by the wealth of information on your
site and am very grateful for it.
< Thank you for your kind words.>
My question is regarding my Oscars which appear to be a mating pair of roughly
7" or so. They often will appear to be performing the normal mating rituals, fin
slapping, quivering, and lip locking. Problem is that they don't seem to follow
thru with it. They do all those things and then nothing happens, they just stop.
I've done some searching in your archives and not found anything that appears to
match this situation. Also they often dig at the gravel but don't attempt to
clean the flat rock I provided. They dig to the point that the undergravel
filter I added becomes exposed, which brings my next question. I've read that
the more filtration the better, so I added the undergravel variety. I have
recently been told that that was not a good idea, that it doesn't help, and that
when the Oscars expose the crate they are allowing what I thought was supposed
to be beneficial to come back up and pollute the water. Is this
accurate? Thanks in advance. Jada
< Your young pair of Oscars are going through the motions. As they get older and
more experienced they will ultimately spawn. When the Oscars exposed the filter
plates the water fins the path of least resistance and goes through the plates
and not the gravel. No filtration is going to happen.-Chuck>
Oscars and Tank Size. 9/9/05
I have read through most of your FAQs on Oscars and so I apologize for yet
another tank size question. From my research i have found sources saying
anywhere from 55-125 gallons is the minimum for 2 adult Oscars. I have a 72
gallon bowfront tank with 2 Emperor 400 filters and a marineland 550 powerhead
with a sponge filter attached to it. I would like to have 2 Oscars but I will
not be getting a new tank for at least three years, and I don't want "unhappy"
fish. Any thoughts you have on this would be greatly appreciated. thanks
>>>Greetings Nick,
This species of cichlid not only needs space because of it's size, but because
of the amount of waste that it produces. They are VERY messy fish, and place a
heavy load on the system. In my early days, I had a pair of in a 55, and I would
never do that again. I'd say 72 gallons is on the edge, with 90 gallons being
the minimum where things are comfortable both form a space standpoint, and waste
management standpoint. Keep in mind that no matter what, you need to be doing as
much as 50% water changes WEEKLY when they get large. Otherwise organic waste
builds up in the water, and you end up with disease problems, most notably "hole
in the head"
Good luck
Jim<<<
Re: Oscars 9/9/05
Thanks for the info, i think am gonna stick with one Oscar.
Nick
>>>I admire your discipline and regard for your charges Nick, good luck!<<<
Oscar Filtration 9/5/05
Hi, I have a red and a tiger Oscar. Both are about 10-12 inches in length.
They are in a 120 gallon tank. I have a Cascade 1200. Is this a good filter and
is it enough filtration for this size of tank with two fish.
< It says it pumps 315 gallons per hour. I would recommend a filter or filters
that pump at least 360 gallons per hour. I don't like to use canister filters
unless I have to. I prefer outside power filters or wet dry systems like the
tidepool by Marineland for big tanks just because they are very easy to clean.>
I just got the tiger and I have had my Red for about 2 years and switched from a
50-75( not sure on size) gallon tank to make room for both fish. Before in the
smaller tank it would get dirty really fast with the same filter and only one
fish. I guess my question is...should I get a second filter and what size would
be sufficient.
< Start switching to an outside power filter. Look at the Marineland Emperor
series.>
Also why do the two fish get side by side and shake their tails and fins?
< They are communicating with one another.>
I'm assuming they are marking their boundaries! Also will the two mate if they
are male and female and what are their rituals for this?
< They are more likely establishing territories. Breeding starts with the male
and female displaying at one another followed by some jaw locking . An area is
then cleared and cleaned. The eggs are laid and then the male passes over them
to fertilize them>
My red is a female I do believe. I think she has laid eggs....little white balls
(size of pin heads) in the bottom of the tank where she had moved all the rock
to make a flat surface. I saw this happen several times when she was in the tank
by herself. But not recently.
< That fish is an obvious female that has laid infertile eggs. When the eggs are
good or have been fertilized they turn a clear brown color.>
Overall the two are tying to get to know each other and have only been together
for 3 days now. Is there anything I should watch out for? Main concern is about
the filtration. I don't want to have to clean this tank constantly. Thank you,
Karen
The Emperor 400 should help a lot. When you do your weekly water changes you
should vacuum the gravel too.-Chuck>
Oscars Act Like They Are Starving 8/31/05
First off. Love the site. Have learned a lot from it. I have 2 Oscars
(Pedro & Napoleon) in a 75 gallon. Pedro is about 5 inches, while Napoleon is
about 4. My problem is that they like to leap out of the water when I feed
them. If I open up the lid and hold my hand over the water with food they will
jump up to my hand (Pedro has been about 90% out of the water).
And they splash water all over the place! I even got nipped once. It didn't
hurt....Do you think they'd bite hard enough to hurt me?
< They don't really have teeth but they will get larger and may develop some
then.>
I like my fingers and want to keep them. One time Pedro must have hit the side
of the lid on his way back in, because I saw a section of his scales floating in
the water. Maybe he'll learn his lesson? :)
Is there anyway to stop them from jumping? I try to open the tank lid really
quick and throw the food in and close it fast! But it's kind of difficult
because I have a 2nd lid above it on my canopy. By the time the canopy lid is
open, they are up top awaiting my feeding hands.
Suggestions, comments, or jokes would be greatly appreciated...Dave
< Lower the water temp and that will slow them down. Mid to upper 70s F will
slow down their metabolism and they won't be starved all the time.-Chuck>
More Cichlids and More Shoehorns, Different Querier - 08/26/2005
I just bought an Oscar about 3 inches long. There is only one other fish in
the tank, a 3 inch pleco. The tank is 20 gallons, and I was wondering if the
Oscar being in that sized tank by himself well be fine?
<No. Both of these fish will seriously outgrow this tank - the Oscar will need
a much larger tank in short order.>
Please email me back at XXXX. Thank you for your time. -Corey
<Wishing you well, -Sabrina>
My Tiger Oscar is sick 7/22/05
Hello, my name is Sharon and this is the first time I have had Oscars. I
purchased 3 of them from my local pet store and within 12 days one of them had
died.
I noticed it (not sure how to tell female from male) was not acting normal, just
laying around on the bottom of the tank, breathing heavily and not eating. I
have a 55 gallon tank that also houses 2 Plecos about 4 inches long. I noticed
the sick Oscar had a white frothy bubble of some sort in it's mouth when it
breathed, and it was taking very deep breaths. I took it out of the tank and
placed it in my beta fish vase.. I figured it was going to die, so I did not
want it with the others for fear they would eat on it and get sick too. Now,
one of the others is sick with the same thing, frothy bubble, deep breathing,
and a thick clear bubble surrounding it's eyes.
<Mmm, they do have a clear area...>
This one is staying at the top of the tank, pretty much in one area...behind
one of the tall plastic plants. I have treated them for ICH first... which they
did
have. That cleared up. After that, that is when I noticed the other fish get
sick. It was fine before then. I have assumed it was some sort of fungus and am
treating with ANTI-FUNGUS BY AQUARIUM PRODUCTS once I finished treating for the
ICH. It has made my water green.
<These "medicines" are toxic...>
I did a water change a couple of weeks ago, and have not been up to doing it
lately as I am recovering from surgery. Could you please give me an idea as to
what is wrong with it,
<Is this tank cycled? How is it filtered? There is something amiss with the
environment here... do you have test kits for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate?>
will the other Oscar catch it, can it be cured, should I just cut my loses and
flush the sick one??????? Also, How often should I change my water, and how
much?
<... this is posted... on WWM>
Should I purchase separate kits that test for each nitrate, chlorine,
etc? What kinds of medicines should I have on hand? I have also been feeding
them Cichlid pellets, flakes and frozen shrimp. Am I doing something wrong? I
want to be able to keep these Oscars for many years and allow my daughter to
watch them grow, but so far, I am not having that much luck. Please help me!!!
Also, I am not sure where to look for your response, whether here or your
website, so would you please send an answer to this email address just to make
sure I get your help. Thank you.
Desperate for help!
<Then read... here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwsubwebindex.htm
re Set-up, Oscars... Bob Fenner>
Re: My Tiger Oscar <System> is sick 7/23/05
Bob,
<Lexxus>
Thanks for getting back with me. I have looked at the site you gave and still
have a lot of reading to do, but also more questions. First, you mentioned
something about filtration...I have a TopFin 55 gallon tank with a double filter
that hangs over the sides, plastic plants and some fun decorations. Right now
there is no carbon in the filters because of the medicine in the water. I am
afraid my Oscars will not make it even after I have done a water change. They
have not moved from the corner of the tank in a couple of days, and not eaten at
all.
<What is their water quality?>
You said the medicines I was using were toxic... but this is what employees at
Petsmart suggested I use. What would be better?
<... please keep reading...>
Also, what is your take on Aquarium Salt? Should I add it or not?
<I would>
I have seen you mention something about Furnace. What is this and can it be
bought at Petsmart?
<... don't add anything unless you know what you're doing. You don't>
How many water changes should I do to take out this green medicine in my tank,
and if my fish die...including the Plecos who are swimming around like crazy,
how long should I wait before adding 1 or 2 more Oscars? Please help.
Thanks.
<Read, don't write. Bob Fenner>
Two Oscars space 7/6/05
My name is Alex, and i was wondering if I could keep 2 Oscars in a 55g
successfully?
Thanks
<Not indefinitely w/o trouble. Please see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/oscarsysfaqs.htm
Bob Fenner>
Uncycled Oscar Tank
First off I'm sorry if you were asked this question before, but I tried
looking it up and couldn't find it so here goes. My bf and I have recently
purchased 3 new Oscars, that are approx. 3", 2.5", and 2". He's had Oscars
before, but I'm pretty new to the fish game. At the moment we have them in a
10 gallon tank but we're getting a 72 gallon at the end of the week. Anyway,
they had these beautiful bright colors when we got them (which is the reason
I picked them) but they seem to be fading. The 2.5" was black with them
coolest bright white stripes, and now you can barely see them. The other
two were the had these colors like the chameleon paint you see on cars,
ranging from oranges to purples, only one was like a dark grayish with
stripes. Now they look so dull. I feed them cichlid sticks, and they're
pigs!! Plus I drop algae wafers in for the sucker. How do we get those
awesome colors back? Thank you for your time.
<Water changes, lots of them. 50% at a shot. Do two today, a few hours
apart. Then daily. Your Oscars are suffering from ammonia poisoning. A
result of all the food they eat. Please read here on establishing bio
filtration: ;http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm
I would get the 72 set up ASAP, but leave the 3 Oscars in the 10 gallon
until the new tank cycles. If not you'll soon be doing 50% water changes in
the 72. Much easier in the 10. But you can't miss a day. And slow down on
the feeding. Oscars are great beggars, but one small feeding a day is
plenty. The more food that goes in, the more ammonia comes out. Even
skipping a day once a week is better than over feeding at this point. I
strongly recommend a test kit to check the water during cycling. It's the
only way to know when the 72 is fish safe. Please do a "fishless cycle". I
link above will explain all. Don>
Oscar Pond 6.14.05
hello. I would like to place my Oscar's in a freshwater ( man made )
pond outside. Is this a good idea, I have treated the water, do I need to
do anything else? I live in Houston so it is very hot at the moment Thank
you for your time Julian.
<Your Oscars will love the additional room (assuming it is bigger than the
tank), natural lighting cycle, and any bugs that venture near the surface of
the water. Keep an eye on the temperature so long as it is within range,
and you have good filtration on the pond you should be in good shape. I am
also assuming that this is your pond and not a public pond or something
similar, that would be a bad idea. Gage>
Moving Big Fish
Hi Bob - I wanted to ask you what is the best way to move an Oscar fish into
a larger tank. My Oscar hates to be moved and the last time jumped out of the
tank and onto the floor. He jumped out one other time when I went to feed him
and he really tears up his skin when he does this. We have tried netting,
pouring, etc. and it is just a huge nightmare in my experience. Is there an
easy way to do this? Any information that you could give me would be greatly
appreciated!
< Big fish require big nets. Many fish stores don't carry nets big enough to do
the job right. I would recommend a net as least twice the size of the fish So a
1 foot Oscar needs a two foot long net. You will probably have to go to a bait
or fishing supply store to get that big a net. I would remove all the rocks and
things that he could hurt himself on. Then turn out the lights and let him fall
asleep. After a couple of hours then sneak back in and slowly catch the Oscar.
Taking him out of the water should be easier in the bigger net. Obviously he
will be wide awake when taken out of the water. Set the net in the new tank and
allow him to swim out.
<<RMF would just scoop out this and other large FW fishes with dipping in large,
thick plastic bags... much less scrapes>>
Don't just plop him in. Keep the tank dark for a few days and approach him
slowly for awhile until he gets accustomed to his new surroundings.>
Also I know that you don't recommend feeding Oscars the feeder fish, but there
are time when that is all mine will eat. How many and how often should they be
fed the feeder fish if that is all they will eat at the time? Thanks!!!!
< I still stick to the old rule that feed him once a day and only enough food so
that all of it is gone in two minutes.-Chuck>
Oscar Bumped His Head, Now Afraid of Dark? Rapid Light Changes
Hello, I'm quite concern about one of my Oscars. (I had them for about 3
months) About two weeks ago we moved my Oscars (2) from a 10 gallon tank to a 55
gallon. For the first week they seemed to be doing very well and loving there
new home. One of my Oscars (my larger one) has had some missing fins since the
first week we had him. Last week while at the pet store, I found some medication
that was suppose to help with fin growth and repair. I started to apply the
medication to the water last week Tuesday.
Since last week Wednesday, my larger Oscar stopped eating and was very
unsociable, hiding behind rocks and plants. My smaller Oscar is doing perfectly
fine. I just figured the larger one was not feeling well and decided to leave
him be for awhile. Over the weekend he still was being the same, so we did a 20%
water change, but still no change in the larger Oscar.
Then last night after eating supper, I was going to check on the Oscars, and
could not find the larger one and then finally found him on the floor. We only
have one tiny little opening on the tank and I'm quite amazed that he was able
to fit through it. After we put him back in the tank, I'm notice that his scales
around his eyes were all scraped up. He seemed to be very disoriented for awhile
swimming vertically. After a few hours passed he seemed to be coming around. I
tried to feed him again, and he still will not eat.
Just before bed time, I went to turn the light off and he went crazy (swimming
totally fast back and forth throughout the tank hitting all objects in his
path). I was total freaked out over this and quickly turned the light back on.
He instantly clammed down. We have a water testing kit and have been checking it
daily. The water seems to be perfectly fine and so does my smaller Oscar. I just
have no idea what's going on with my larger Oscar. Any help is must appreciated.
Amy
<Your answer is actually the title I placed on your question. Fish don't like
"lights on-lights off". I think they have difficultly with their eyes rapidly
changing from bright light to darkness and visa-versa. The trick is to place a
small Christmas tree bulb sized night light on the same wall as the fish tank
try turning the room lamp on first before turning on the fish tank light, and
then turn off the fish tank light first before turning off the room light. It
should make a difference.-Chuck>
Hurt Oscar - Rapid Light Change Follow-up
Thanks Chuck, What should I do about the larger Oscar not eating? Its been
about a week and 1 day now that he has not been eating. This worries me because
he used to be the one that was always starving for more food and would often
jump at my hand when it was feeding time. Also, he is very unsocial able now,
where before he stopped eating he was quite entertaining. He doesn't even seem
like the same fish anymore.
The only thing that we did differently in the last week before he stopped
eating was give them the medication for the fin repair and we fed them two
goldfish as a treat which they haven't had in quite some time. I don't believe
it was the medication because the smaller Oscar is doing perfectly fine. And I'm
also afraid that he was injured in his jump out of the tank.
He is missing a lot of scales around his right eye and on the tip of his head.
Will these scales grow back??
Also, do you think that the larger one might have gotten sick from the
goldfish?
If so, what would you suggest that I give him to make him feel better and to
start eating again. The last couple of days I've fed them flakes, frozen blood
worm, frozen shrimp brim and pellets. The smaller Oscar eats like a pig and my
larger Oscar just looks at the food and swims away. Amy
< The larger Oscar took a pretty good shot to the head when he jumped. He knows
he is hurt and so do the other fish. I would place him in his own tank for
awhile until he heals up. once the wounds are healed he should start to come
around.-Chuck
Oscar systems, feeding, Gage's go
Hello there,
Thank you for your web-site it is an easy to navigate wealth of knowledge. I
have spent over an hour reading trying to narrow down my problem
I have, what I believe is, an albino Oscar. He/She is white with an orange
"knot" on s/he head and tips of fins. He is about 6 inches tall and about 10"
long. I have had him for 5yrs now, and bought him when he was about 2". (He
was sold to me as a semi aggressive). He has since killed all the other semi
aggressive that I had! So he is now the only one in the tank. No matter what he
is, I just adore him, he is our pet, and I have become concerned with his well
being.
From the readings, there is a lot I should be doing that I have lucked out and
never had to. I am just concerned on where I should start.
I did a complete water change last week. I also replaced the air tubing for the
underground filter system, and bought a new over the tank filter. Lots of
changes here, so I wonder if I haven't stressed him out.
As a treat, only the third time I have ever offered, I put in 12 feeder gold
fish. If he has eaten any of them it was only one, as I now count 11. But I
don't know if that was done here or at the store.
The water was cloudy on the first day after the change so I added some Stress
coat to my 50 gal tank. The water cleared up beautifully.
Now I want to give my fish a hug. He seems depressed almost afraid of the gold
fish. He has always been "moody" after a water change, but only for a few
hours. I changed his water last Tuesday and he has not snapped out of it. He
mingles at the bottom of the tank in one corner or another. He still comes up
to see me for feeding, but he is not nearly as perky and playful as
usual. After eating about 5 pellets he meanders back to the bottom. He is not
playing with the goldfish at all...the goldfish are not even afraid to go eat
his pellets in front of him!! It is almost as though the goldfish are bullying
my Oscar!!
I see suggestions of Epsom salt, live worms, and water testing. I have never
done any of those things. Where should I start???
I do not see any visible fungus, or sickness. His eyes and fins look good at
this point, although the water seems to be getting a little cloudy again. By
the look of the water, it seems like maybe his natural slime is falling off??
He still comes up and "kisses" at me and my children when he is visited. He
just seems sad and sluggish. I want to catch whatever it is before it becomes a
bigger problem. Please advise on where I should start to diagnose our pet.
Thank you so very much for your time and your website. I look forward to
hearing from you.
Jessica
<Hi Jessica, glad to hear you are learning what is best for your fish and
correcting past mistakes. Most likely the 100% water change is what stressed out
the fish, that is a pretty big shock. The slimy weirdness in the water may be
from the stress coat. Feeder goldfish are not a good idea, for a treat I might
pick up some frozen krill from the pet store, or even yummier big fat worms from
a bait shop or a hole in the back yard. Feeders can introduce parasites, fungus,
all around nastiness to your tank. Just keep up on weekly to bi-weekly water
changes and watch for signs of sickness (fuzziness, weird spots, open wounds,
etc.). He should return to his normal behavior in no time. Best regards, Gage>
Oscar systems, feeding, Bob's try
Hello there,
Thank you for your web-site it is an easy to navigate wealth of knowledge. I
have spent over an hour reading trying to narrow down my problem
I have, what I believe is, an albino Oscar. He/She is white with an orange
"knot" on s/he head and tips of fins. He is about 6 inches tall and about 10"
long. I have had him for 5yrs now, and bought him when he was about 2". (He
was sold to me as a semi aggressive). He has since killed all the other semi
aggressives that I had! So he is now the only one in the tank. No matter what
he is, I just adore him, he is our pet, and I have become concerned with his
well being.
From the readings, there is a lot I should be doing that I have lucked out and
never had to. I am just concerned on where I should start.
I did a complete water change last week.
<Mmm, best to avoid such complete change-outs... restrict these to a good 20-25%
maximum... too much change too soon is bad... and source water can be
dangerously variable in quality>
I also replaced the air tubing for the underground filter system, and bought a
new over the tank filter. Lots of changes here, so I wonder if I haven't
stressed him out.
<Possibly>
As a treat, only the third time I have ever offered, I put in 12 feeder gold
fish.
<Not a good idea... real trouble as a source/vector for disease...>
If he has eaten any of them it was only one, as I now count 11. But I don't
know if that was done here or at the store.
The water was cloudy on the first day after the change so I added some Stress
coat to my 50 gal tank. The water cleared up beautifully.
Now I want to give my fish a hug. He seems depressed almost afraid of the gold
fish. He has always been "moody" after a water change, but only for a few
hours. I changed his water last Tuesday and he has not snapped out of it. He
mingles at the bottom of the tank in one corner or another. He still comes up
to see me for feeding, but he is not nearly as perky and playful as
usual. After eating about 5 pellets he meanders back to the bottom. He is not
playing with the goldfish at all... the goldfish are not even afraid to go eat
his pellets in front of him!! It is almost as though the goldfish are bullying
my Oscar!!
<Happens>
I see suggestions of Epsom salt, live worms, and water testing. I have never
done any of those things. Where should I start???
<Reading further>
I do not see any visible fungus, or sickness. His eyes and fins look good at
this point, although the water seems to be getting a little cloudy again. By
the look of the water, it seems like maybe his natural slime is falling off??
<Possibly... the water change, possible disease from the goldfish...>
He still comes up and "kisses" at me and my children when he is visited. He
just seems sad and sluggish. I want to catch whatever it is before it becomes a
bigger problem. Please advise on where I should start to diagnose our pet.
Thank you so very much for your time and your website. I look forward to
hearing from you.
Jessica
<Mmm, keep reading, on WWM re feeder goldfish, all the Oscar FAQs. Bob Fenner>
Re: Oscar Looks Like a Red Devil, Chuck's input
Hello there, and thank you so much for your prompt response. My gut feeling
is to remove these goldfish, of which I will do today. I have since been to the
library and have found that I don't have an Oscar, but a Cichlasoma citrinellum
(Midas Cichlid).
< Go to fishbase.org and search for red devil. There are a couple of fish that
look similar.>
I have also learned he is indeed a male. :o) He is a beautiful fish and I plan
to search your website for info on him. Do you have any tips on this type of
fish??
< You seem to have learned a lot and I think you are already on the right
track.>
He seems to have a lot of the same characteristics of the Oscar is there any
definite differences?
<The are both new world cichlids. The Oscar comes from South America and the Red
Devil type comes from Central America. They are both one of the top predators in
their natural habitat.>
I also purchased a heater, and thermometer for his tank, he has never had one
before, but I want him to be comfortable. Dang, I forgot that water tester
equipment that you advised! Back to the pet store. Thanks again for your
advise and your website. I appreciate your time and your help. Jessica
< This is what Wetwebmedia is here for.-Chuck>
How Many Oscars?
Hi, I have a three foot long tank and wanted to keep two pairs of Oscar. Is
it ok to keep 2 pairs?
< NO!!!!! Each pair of Oscars should have at least a 50 to 75 gallon tank to
themselves.>
Is it true that they fight in small numbers and are better in large number ?
<When fish are kept crowded a aggressive fish will have more fish to pick on a
the aggression is diluted. If there is just on other fish then it is picked on
all the time and soon will be dead.>
How many Oscars do you suggest?
< Only one.-Chuck>
Abused Oscar - Ungrateful Owner
Ok I am aware of how fast Oscars grow, and I did do my research. I have had
a personal conversation with David Burochowitz, editor of Tropical Hobbyist
Magazine, and he assured me that with adequate filtration and a weekly 50% water
change, which I do, that it would be fine. Sorry I asked you for advice, but I
trust his experience to yours. Thanks for spending about ten words on my real
query about his shyness and the appropriateness of the rocks by saying that they
don't matter, that's really helpful. You know, some people get so anal about
things that they consider themselves "experts" on, it really irritates me that
you were so focused on being right about something that you completely ignored
my issue. At least you did give me a little info, I know to take my questions
elsewhere.
>>>I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had a conversation with an editor. If I had
known this, I wouldn't have attempted to educate you on the appropriate size
tank for this cichlid. You see, we all know that if an editor says it, it must
be true. They edit after all. I don't know much really anyway, I've only been
keeping and breeding Oscars and other New World and African cichlids for 20
years, so I'm a bit of a noob you understand. I haven't edited a magazine, so
you should probably ignore my husbandry advice.
If the editor of Dog World told you that keeping a German Shepherd in
refrigerator box was acceptable, I suppose you'd believe it as well?
So be it, don't let the door hit you in the... as they say...
Jim<<<< Another Cramped Oscar....
I have an Oscar that is about 3 inches long. I got him about 2 months ago
and for about a month and a half he was the sole occupant of a 10 gallon
tank. Now before you jump all over me, I know it was too small of a tank
for a grown Oscar, but it was a complicated situation and I had no
choice but to keep him there while I saved up to get him in his current
tank, which is 33 gallons.
He wasn't very shy in his old home, but he's been in his new tank for a
few days now and he always hides behind a piece of fake driftwood when
anyone walks by. He will eat, mostly pellets and occasional earthworm,
but he waits for me to back away from the tank where he can't see me. I
don't think the tank is cycled yet, but I'm keeping a watch on ammonia
levels and they seem to be safe (the tester I have doesn't show ppm, it
just has four colors: safe, alert, danger, and toxic). I was able to
jump start the cycling process with bacteria from another source so I
suppose the tank could be cycled already but it's unlikely.
Anyways, I figured maybe he was being shy due to the lack of hiding
spaces in his new and much larger tank, so I went to a creek near my
house and found him a few rocks (they appear to be a red shale, but I'm
no rock expert so I can't be sure.) I did a little test on them by
pouring some vinegar on them and watching for bubbles and saw none, so I
boiled the rocks for a bit, scrubbed them off in clean water, and put
them in his tank. He hasn't explored them yet and he still hides in the
same spot, but the rocks don't seem to be having any adverse affects on
him.
Just in case you need to know my regimen, I do weekly water changes of
50% and right now until I'm sure the tank is cycled I'm doing daily
water changes of about 10% even though the ammonia tester I've got says
nil ammonia. Is there anything I can do short of getting him a larger
tank that will make him happy, or have I scared him for life by changing
tanks on him after he got used to the old one?
>>>Heh Travis,
How much research did you do before purchasing your fish? You ARE aware
that 33 gallons is just as laughable long term as an Oscar tank yes?
These fish grow VERY large, VERY fast! How fast? Well they put on about
an inch a every week and a half to two weeks until they reach about 10".
After that they grow a bit slower, and females may stop there for a
while. Males will keep right on truckin to 11"-14" depending on genetics
and surroundings, also a bit on maintenance and nitrogen cycle
management. At any rate, all the stuff about your rocks and shyness is
of no import really unless you plan to get your fish AT LEAST a 55
gallon tank rather soon. If not, take him back and purchase a smaller
species of fish that will live happily long term in a 33 gallon tank.
You have maybe another 2 months with your Oscar in this tank. There are
MANY other options to choose from, including some VERY nice medium sized
Central and South American Cichlids. How about a nice Firemouth?
Be aware that Oscars are VERY messy cichlids, and you will need to do
30% water changes weekly to keep his parameters in line. Otherwise you
risk a variety of problems, including "hole in the head" disease.
Good luck
Jim<<<
Oscars or Sardines?
Hey there, We just purchased a 28 gallon tank last Tuesday. We have a small
filter that I believe the sales guy gave to us accidentally. After waiting
almost a week, we bought our three red tiger Oscar fish. (tonight) One is doing
really well eating and swimming around. The other two have been on the gravel
since we got them. They are laying on their side and gasping for air. What do we
do?? separate them immediately or is this stress from ride home? Or something we
did wrong?? Thank you if you have any solutions. Bri
>>>Hello Bri,
Did you do any research on these fish before you purchased them? This 28 gallon
tank is a quarantine tank I hope, before you transfer these fish into a 150
gallon correct? Oscars grow at a TREMENDOUS rate, (literally) over an inch
a week <month, RMF>, to an inch every two weeks until they reach 10" or so. At
this point growth slows down somewhat, but continues until males reach a length
of 13" or so. Females often stop at around 10". Your tank is MUCH too small to
accommodate even ONE of these fish for more than 6 weeks or so.
In answer to your question, assuming your water parameters are in line (which I
can't tell from here) then what you are seeing is a stress response - Oscars do
this. However, if this tank is intended to be a home for more than a few weeks,
you need to take all of these fish back and consider a MUCH smaller species.
Also, not sure how your "accidental filter" fits into your query.
Good luck
Jim<<<
Oscar confusion
Hello guys! Long time no posting on my part. I've been reading most of the FAQs
on the Oscars and am confused. I've been getting mixed signals about tank size
the more I read. I have a 58 gallon Oceanic tank at my disposal and am debating
with myself about what to do with it. I have an African cichlid tank at my
house with a Cobalt Blue ___________ (I admit ignorance to his real name. I
want to say Hap but I am unsure.
< It used to be Pseudotropheus and is now metraclima.>
The pet store in my area isn't the greatest.), so I'm pretty sure I want to
move away from the African varieties (unless I can get a Frontosa in the
mix). I love Oscars and they are my number one pick right now, however I'm
confused as to whether or not this tank is big enough. I would have lots of
rock work and I wanted to try live plants but it sounds like the live plants
aren't such a good idea.
< The Oscar would work with proper filtration and regular maintenance. The
plants would soon be uprooted and eaten>
I was also hoping to get some Tiger Barbs or Tinfoil Barbs in the tank too,
< Tiger barbs get about three inches and are attractive and active. The tinfoil
barbs get up to a foot long and really require large tanks because they prefer
to swim in schools and need lots of room to swim.>
just something for visual variety. If the Oscar idea won't work please tell me
something that will that doesn't include a boring community setup with gouramis
or angel fish (no offense to the community setups out there). I really want
some big fish that are just (for lack of a better word) cool. Please reply to
XXXX@hotmail.com Thanks for you help and I hope you have happy holidays.
< Lots of suggestions here. You could try a Lake Tanganyika community tank. Lots
of color and activity. Make a couple areas with rock piles and open sandy areas
in between. Add one lamp sp. like Leleupi, daffodil, brichardi, compressiceps
or calvus. Then you could add a Julidochromis species like ornatus, regani or
transcriptus. In the sandy areas you could use a sand sifter species such as
xenotilapia or callachromis. In the open water column a large school of
cyprchromis sp. would look great. Add some shells and get some shell dwelling
cichlids. Another way to go would be will small central American cichlids.
Convicts , firemouths, and other s make an interesting interactive tank. Just
make sure that they have lots of rocks and things for territories. For more info
on getting and learning about cichlids check out the American Cichlid
Association at WWW.Cichlid.org.-Chuck>
Ty
Oscar and Gar in a 55g?
I was recently at a pet store and I was told that it will be ok for me to
get 2 Oscars and 1 gar fish and put them in a 55 gal tank. I want to know will
they get along and will 55 gal be enough. If not what should I do?
>>Hello :D Since you are asking, I get the feeling that you think a 55g would
NOT be large enough, and you would be right. A 55g is not even large enough to
house ONE Oscar for it's natural lifespan, two would require twice-weekly water
changes just to keep them healthy, no guarantees either. Adding a gar to the mix
would be a bad idea, and I am sure that someone down the line would talk you
into adding a Pleco as a cleanup crew...another bad idea! The average Pleco sold
to you would probably be an Hypostomus species, growing to two feet and not an
ideal cleaner-upper, they create more waste than they remove. If your tank is a
55g, I would recommend going with some smaller species of Cichlidae, perhaps
some jewels, some keyholes, some convicts if you like protective parents ;) or
maybe just some Gouramis, or a nice community tank. A 55g is too small to house
most cichlids for any length of time. If your pH is high, say around 7.8 and
higher, you could house some Africans in there, but beware of aggression, even
though the Africans may not grow to 15 inches, they are aggressive enough to
warrant a great deal more space. Good Luck :) -Gwen<<
Re: Oscar in 55 gal tank
Thank you for responding so promptly to my last email titled "Cichlid water
qualities+well being"
I took your advice and moved my tiger Oscar into the 55 gal tank. The only
problem is that I heard you couldn't put plants in with Oscars b/c they like to
dig and will uproot them.
<Correct>
So now the tank looks so bleak and bare. All I have in it is a few medium-small
sized rocks, a larger rock, and a small piece of low lying fake wood with some
river stones scattered around it. I also have white gravel in the tank. Should I
change the gravel to brown/natural?
< Gravel is just a matter of personal taste. Brown would probably make your
Oscar look less washed out.>
If so could I just add some brown/natural rocks on top of the white rocks or
would I need to totally change them?
< You could always take a small portion of each and mix them together and see
how you like it. It would be difficult to keep them separate since the Oscar
will mix them out as he digs through the gravel.>
Also, do you have any suggestions as to what I could do with my tank or put in
my tank to make it look less bare and more like an interesting habitat that my
Oscar would be happy to live in?
<Look for large pieces of driftwood to add to your tank. The seasoned wood adds
some tannins to the water and give it a tea colored look. In nature Oscars would
hide near fallen tree stumps and near the roots of trees along the waters edge.
Stores sell this material as "African Ironwood". It is pretty much already
seasoned and will not float. You could always make your own by obtaining some
would near a creek, stream or river and soaking it for a few weeks or months
until it sinks.>
Also, I got this tank used form my grandfather about a year ago, but I still
have no idea as to how powerful the filter is. All I know is that is fairly
large, and it consists of 2 separate but connected parts, the filter and the
BioWheel. I also know that it is a hot magnum filter. Do you know of any way to
see what power it is without having the box handy?
< The Marineland HOT magnum pumps about 250 gallons per hour when the water flow
is unobstructed. This will give you a 4 to 5 times per hour turnover in your
tank. The BioWheel is an excellent attachment to the system. The bacteria live
on the wheel and break down the waste products down into less toxic nitrates.
The magnum does not have a high capacity for storing waste and will clog soon
after cleaning up a messy fish such as your Oscar, so watch the water flow and
when it slows down you will need to wash it out. Rinse the wheel every once in
awhile under a gentle garden hose to remove excess build up. Take the magnum
apart and make sure you rinse the filter fabric under a strong stream of water
to clean it. Add or replace the carbon often in the filter basket to keep the
water sparkling clear.>
I am also going to put my African cichlids in the 29 gal now. That would work
out fine wouldn't it? It said that these cichlids only get up to 5 inches so
they would be ok right? Would I be ok to add 1 or 2 more also? I have 3 now, and
they are about 1-2.5 inches long.
< African cichlids actually do better when they are crowded together. I would
put in somewhere between six and ten fish. You are adding a lot of active fish
to a not so big tank so you will have to have a good filter, feed only algae
flakes and check on the nitrates to decide when water changes need to be done.
Check out the local fish store for a book on Malawi cichlids. You may be
surprised on what species are available. Stay away from some of the larger ones
(Up to 12 inches). They too can get as big as your Oscar and then you will be in
the same situation all over again!!!-Chuck Cobb
Re: Cichlid water qualities+well being
How are you?
< Fine thanks>
I would greatly appreciate it if you could help guide me in the right direction
with how to maintain my cichlids.
In the past I had 3 Oscars. I have lost 2 to various diseases such as hole in
the head and body rot. I don't want this to happen to my last Oscar. He is 1
year old and around 6-7 inches long. He is currently in a 20 gal but I am
thinking about moving him to a 29 gal.
<Oscars are from South America and can easily get up to one foot long I would
recommend at least a 55 gallon tank for your one remaining Oscar>>
I know that the filter is too small for the tank right now but I will change all
of this with the 29 gal.
< A 29 gallon is better but still not good enough. If a 29 gallon is all you
have right now I would recommend a large outside power filter that pumps at
least 100 gallons an hour and is easy to clean>
The remaining Oscar is a tiger Oscar and he is in the tank with a Pleco. He has
a small amount of hole in the head I think... and I am not quite sure how to
maintain his tank or how to keep him perfectly healthy. What does his ph need to
be? I have heard that it needs to be around 8.2, but he is currently at about
7.5. Is this ok? is it possible that he has adjusted to this ph and doesn't
need to be in 8.2? also, I think that my tap water has a ph of about 7.0 or
lower, and I hate to have to go through the process of raising it every time I
change the water.
< Don't worry about the pH right now. Get a nitrate test kit. I think you will
find the nitrates are off the scale. Reduce the nitrates by doing a water change
and servicing the filter. The nitrates should be 25 ppm or lower. No more than
50 ppm or you will start having the problems you describe all over again>
I have been feeding him cichlid pellets, any other diet
suggestions?
< Oscars eat just about anything. Try some washed earthworms every once in
awhile>
I recently bought a huge container of Jumbo Min for my Oscar, but when he eats
it he flushes more than half (or maybe all of it seems!) out through his gills.
Is this normal, and should I keep feeding him this seeing as he is making a huge
mess out of it?
< Oscars are messy feeders. As they chew their food some of it ends up flowing
through their gills. This is normal for them.>
Also, how am I supposed to measure his ph if the test kit only goes up to 7.6??
< They make high range pH kits, you may have to shop around.>
I currently don't have an ammonia or nitrite/ nitrate test kit, but along with
the other aquarium I have, and getting a bigger tank, this is getting expensive.
< Initial setup can be expensive but it does not have to be. Spend your money
wisely on good quality equipment right from the start and you will have years of
success with your aquariums. If your heart is set on Oscars then you need to
take care of him the right way. If you cannot give him the care he needs then he
is better off back at the pet shop and maybe you should get some smaller fish. >
I have been reading on your site and have heard a lot about Epsom, is this a
good method to get him in top condition and get rid of the possible hole in the
head, or do I just need to get the water stabilized??
< Forget the salts for now. Clean the filter and do a water change. Feed the
Oscar only enough food that he will consume in a couple of minutes.>
Between him and the Pleco they produce huge amounts of waste, what size filter
would be best for a 29 gal? Is there anything else you could think of to make
sure my Oscar is in prime condition?
< Put him in the 55 gallon tank and take a look at the emperor filters by
Marineland. They move lots of water and are easy to service. The bigger the
better. Get a gravel vacuum and vacuum the excess food out of the gravel when
you do your water change. You will have less algae and your Oscar will be very
happy. >
Sorry for such a long email but I also have questions about my other tank. It is
a 55 gal, and I have currently purchased 3 small African cichlids and plan to
buy more for it, the tank also has a large Pleco in it. Would it be better for
me to put the Oscar in the 55 gal, or will he be fine in the 29?,
< If you want to keep the Oscar then move him to the 55 or get rid of him>
as I have heard that he will be limited in his size by the size of his
aquarium...?
< His growth and well being will be limited to the amount of wastes built up in
the aquarium not by the size of the tank. You have been getting some bad advice,
I am guessing it is from the store that may have sold you the three Oscars and a
20 gallon tank.>
Back to the African cichlids, will it be ok to introduce more African cichlids
their size into the tank, as I have just purchased them within the week?
< Most "African cichlids" come from Lake Malawi in Africa and are farm bred in
Florida. The usual ones are the fish that eat the algae off the rocks and are
called Mbuna by the natives and by cichlid enthusiasts. They are very
territorial and will defend their area using those same teeth they use to clean
algae off the rocks on each other. When adding fish I would take all the rocks
out. Do a water change. Put the rocks back in a different arrangement. Put the
new fish in and turn off the lights for the night. This will give the new fish a
chance to find their own territory.>
Also, what would a stable ph level be for them, or is ph not even as crucial as
I think??
< They definitely like the pH above 7.0, 8.0 would be better.>
How often do water changes need to be made in these tanks?
<Check the nitrates with a kit and keep them below 25 ppm. The amount of water
you change and how often depend on many variables. If the nitrates are at 50 ppm
then I would consider a 50 % water change over a few days. If they come back in
a week then you would have to do a 50% water change every week in your tank. If
the nitrates were at 30 ppm then you would only need to a 25% water change or so
every week. If the nitrates were only at 10 % then you could skip a water change
if you wanted to.>
It is a big hassle and seems to put a lot of stress on my Oscar.
< In a 29 gallon tank a 7 inch fish doesn't have anywhere to hide. The bigger
tank will be less stressful if he has a place to hide like a large flowerpot or
big piece of plastic pipe from the hardware store.-Chuck>
Thank you for your time. Cobb
Oscars
I have a Q, I hope you can help me with. I did read about what I'm going to ask
but this is a little different. I have two Oscars one is a male and one is a
female the male I sent full grown yet and my female seams to be a lot smaller I
was wondering if I could put them in a 55 gal tank I know you should put them in
a bigger tank but since I don't think my female Oscar is not going to get so big
I was wondering if that would be ok to do.
< A 55 gallon tank would be fine for awhile. Make sure you have a filter that
pump/filters at least 3 times the volume of the tank and check your nitrates.
When the nitrates get between 25 and 50 ppm you will need to do a water change
and service your filter to reduce them. How much water and how often will need
to be determined by you and your test results. -Chuck>
Thank you April
Oscar tank question
I have just bought 2 baby 2-3 inch tiger or red Oscars. there like super
friend they wont leave each others side. I have a 40 gallon that wide deep and
sort of long. I have 2 bio wheels that pump out 150 gallons each. I want to know
if my tank will be good enough for them. I really need to know I need to get a
bigger tank or replace my filter or any sort of that I'm kind of used to my 5
gallon with tiger barbs thank you this is very important Sean =P
< Your forty gallon will do for awhile. Your filtration is very good. Marineland
makes excellent products. When you Oscars get about 5 to 6 inches long I would
start thinking about a larger tank. 55 gallon minimum and up to a 100 gallon
would be fine. When you switch over then one of your filters could be boosted up
to an Emperor that filters 400 gallons an hour.-Chuck>
Pool Filter Sand in Oscar Tank
I am setting up a new Oscar tank and seen pictures of a guy who used pool
filter sand in his and I really like the looks of it. My question is, is it O.
K. to use this type of sand in an Oscar tank or will it create me problems down
the road due to the silicates it contains?
<Sand is basically silicon dioxide SiO2(Quartz and glass). As long as it is well
washed so no dust sized particles are being returned to the tank you should be
OK. Some problems may arise using sand blasting sand. Sand blasting sand is
crushed sand that is angular and abrasive. It can also be abrasive against a
fishes scales or eyes should they rub themselves on the sand . This is
especially bad for Lake Tanganyikan sand sifters.-Chuck>
Thanks for your help,
Bryant Brown
Minimum tank size for two adult Oscars
Hi. I was wanting to know what is the minimum tank size for two adult
Oscars.
< Probably at least 100 gallons with good filtration. Adult Oscars are big fish
and messy eaters, so you need a good filter that is easy to service and will do
the job. I would recommend the Marineland Tidepool filter with the skimmer
attachment. Look around and you can probably get both for around $200. You will
still need to get a pump for it. You need to get a pump that will pump at least
300 gallons an hour. The Tidepool system can handle up to 600-700 gallons per
hour. The best thing about this filter is it has a very large biological filter
with its built-in BioWheel. It is very easy to service. Check it out.-Chuck>
Or what is the best for them. Thanks.
Tiger Oscar
Hey, I was just wondering when I should clean my tank. Its 10 gallon with about
a 3.5 Inch Oscar. I know the tank is small but its okay for know, I'm eventually
going to move him over to a 55 gallon once he is larger. The filter is Regent it
came with the aquarium. It also has a small log in it with a heater and a
thermometer. I feed him 3 pellets, 3 times a days.
I'm wondering how and when I should clean my tank and change the filter and also
vacuum the stones and change the water and how much percent of the water.
Thanks
< You need to have your water tested. You should have no ammonia and no nitrites
in your water. If you do you need to service the filter and vacuum the gravel.
The nitrates should be no more than 25 ppm. If they are higher then you need to
do a water change to bring them down to that level. As a general rule I change
30 % of my water every 2 weeks while vacuuming the gravel. On week that I don't
do a water change I change the filter. Check out Dr. Tim Hovanec's articles on
filtration at Marineland.com and then click on Dr. Tim's Library for a more in
depth understanding.-Chuck>
Also I just became curious about my Oscars back fins, the tips are clear but
just barely the tip (about 1mm-2mm ). I did some research and it sort of looks
like Fin Rot but I'm not actually sure because I can't remember if he always had
that as if it was part of his colour scheme.
Sorry for the questions in the same day =-}
< It could be part of the color scheme. Watch it closely to see if it
grows.-Chuck>
Re: Tiger Oscar Again
As you know my Oscar is about 3 inches long, he's the only one in the tank
and the size of it is 10 gallons it also has some decoration stuff in it like a
log which is 5 inches long 4 high and 2 wide and an other decoration which is 1
inch wide 1 long and 6-7 high. it also has a heater 1 filter and a thermometer.
I'm going to move him into a larger one ( 55 gallon ) once he is bigger. I was
wondering how many times should I clean the tank and change the water est. (
keeping in mind that he is the only one in the tank).
Thanks again
< It depends on how often you feed, how much you feed, and what you feed. Start
out changing two gallons a week. More if the water starts to smell or looks
cloudy. This will keep the wastes down and your Oscar will grow quickly. -Chuck>
Just bought 3 Oscars
Hello,
I just bought 3 medium size Oscars from PetSmart last night.
They told me that they would be OK in my 46 gallon tank.... even if they get to
be 12 inches long a piece....
After reading a bit on your website... it sounds like they were wrong!!
What should I do? Can I make it work?
They are doing very well right now.
< Check the nitrates. They should not exceed 25 ppm. If they do then you need to
change some water to get them down. I think you will find that you will need to
change water at least a few times a week with this many large Oscars in this
tank. They will eventually get sick and not look very good or you will get tired
of changing 25 gallons of water every other day. Start thinking about a larger
tank in the next few months.-Chuck>
Please help!
Kathy
Houston, TX.
Re: Just bought 3 Oscars
I checked my Nitrates and it is about 10ppm. How big of a tank will I need for
my 3 Oscars?
It makes me so mad that they told me they would be OK in this tank.... they were
using the method... 1in. of fish for every gallon.....
I might see if they will let me return them.... I am afraid that I won't be able
to get a larger tank... they are so expensive!
I hate to return them.... I have wanted cichlids for a long time!! and when I
saw the Oscars I thought they were so neat.
If you have any other words of wisdom, please let me know!
Thanks for your help!!
< Keep in mind that healthy Oscars will be close to a foot long in a year or so.
Your 46 gallon tank is probably a little over 3 feet long so it won't take too
long before there is no room for them to swim. You can keep smaller cichlids
that are just as interesting and colorful and don't get too big. I would
recommend central American cichlids of the genus Archocentrus. Males get about
four inches and females get about half that. They are a little aggressive but
are easy to keep and breed. A. nanoluteus and A. myrnae are a couple that would
very easy to keep and are very pretty too. They are not too common in pet shops
yet so you might have to look around. Check out Aquabid.com there may be some on
there you can bid on. -Chuck>
Kathy
Night Fright
Hello WWM! <Hello back. Don here>
I have a problem with my 2 red Oscars and my sailfin Pleco. I have a fluorescent
light and when ever I turn it on the fish go to "their" corner and sit on the
ground hardly moving except when spooked by the other fish. Another problem I
have is at night when I'm asleep I hear a big splash and gravel hitting the
glass. It makes me jump and scares me. The fish have scars on there head from
this in the past and I am afraid its not the heater or electric. It's like the
fish spook each other. pH, nitrites, nitrates, and temp. are all stable. <What
are the readings? Ammonia and nitrite must be at zero. Nitrate below 20ppm.
Water conditions could be a reason for the inactivity of your fish. You should
be changing lots of water with these 3 fish. Up to 100% per week in 2 or 3
stages. Depends on the size of these fish.> The temp stays at 78. They're in a
55 gallon aquarium. <OK if the fish are small. But these are three large fish as
adults. The Oscars can hit a foot, the sailfin Pleco can reach 18 inches! All
are messy eaters and produce a ton of waste. Make sure you vacuum your gravel>
<First, the splashing you here at night is either from your sailfin, or the
Oscars being scared by the sailfin. Plecos are more active at night. He's just
out looking for food and waking up the sleeping Oscars. It is not uncommon for a
large, starving Pleco to try and take a bite from a sleeping fish. Try giving
him a piece of zucchini, squash, cucumber or carrot. Attach it to a rock to keep
it at the bottom and add just before you go to sleep. That may calm things down.
About them being shy/hiding; Any chance another pet is bothering them. Maybe a
cat? They may feel unsafe with the lights on. A cat may even explain the night
fright. Make sure there are plenty of places for them to hide. They will come
out more if they know they have a safe home to retreat to when scared.>
I also have another problem. I have 4 cichlids, one electric yellow <nice, but
can be aggressive> and 3 I don't have a clues <Also nice. I use to breed
"Idonthaveaclues". Won a prize for my Idonthaveaclue whatelseisnew :)>, my
friend gave me the tank. Its not good at all. It's a 10 gallon. The filtration
is perfect <What is it?> but the space is cramped. <Agreed> The electric yellow
is 3 inches while the others are abut 1 inch. The 3 unknown species (with
vertical stripes. They are blue in color and the other one dark with a red fins.
Not a red tailed shark I'm 100% sure on that. Doesn't even look like it) but
anyways, the electric yellow seem to torment the smaller fish. <Yep> I'm going
to return the 2 Oscars and move them into there, but I'm afraid of the Oscar
problem happening to them. Please help.
<Before you choose which fish to return, check your pH and hardness. The yellow
is an African cichlid and likes a high pH and hard water. The Oscars and Pleco
are South American and like a lower pH and softer water. If you match the fish
to your local conditions you will have fewer problems. But if you go with the
Oscars and Pleco, you will need a larger tank in time. If you put the Africans
with the Pleco, he may still cause a commotion at night. Again, target feed your
Plecos!>
Night Fright pt 2
I also have something to add to the Oscar problem. It seems that the light
stay on thru the week at night Mon-Fri. <Not good> I'm not here on the weekends
due to divorce problems. <Sorry to hear. Been there> Is this a problem and do
they have timers so the light turn off and on by timer <Yes, or leave them off
all day. Better than on all night> and some kind of automatic feeder. I'm
trying to move them to the house I'm at Mon-Fri but it's slow happening. Also
how can I move my fish long distances about 75 miles doing 60 the whole
way.....thanks.
<You can get a small timer to handle the lights. Any hardware or department
store will have them for less than $10. You can also get auto feeders at some of
the larger pet stores or online. Better if you can talk whoever is there during
the week into feeding them. As to moving them, it really depends on the size of
the fish. Small fish in a large plastic bag half filled will be OK for an hour
or so. If they look like they are gasping for air, open the bag and splash the
water around a little. Larger fish can go in a clean bucket or other container.
A battery powered air pump with an air stone will help a lot. Take as much of
the old water as you can, use it to refill the tank. If your filter has a bio
wheel or pad, keep it in tank water and reinstall on the tank. Do not clean it
or keep it in tap water.>
Oscar systems
hey there guys, hopefully you can answer a question I have that I hear a
different answer for every time I ask! I currently have 3 Oscars (2 tigers, and
an albino red) all between 5 1/2 and 7 inches collectively, and a 14 inch common
Pleco (no joke, this is the largest Pleco I've seen before) in a 100 gallon
tank, with a Fluval 403 canister filter.......is there a problem with this
setup?
< No the set up is fine.>
is my tank too small?
< No the tank size is fine too.>
will I need more filtration?
< That all depends on a couple of factors. Your filter should turn the tank over
at least three to five times per hour. How often do you do water changes and how
much water to you change. The nitrates should not be over 25 ppm. If they are
then you need to change the filter and do a water change to reduce them.>
will I eventually need to re-house one of my Oscars?
< Don't think so.-Chuck>>
your help with this query would be greatly appreciated, as I have the time and
money to do what is right for these fish, but I need to know what actually is
right first in advance
what's best for my Oscars
Tank size
Hi guys!
I've written before and like you site. I was wondering if a 125 gallon tank is
big enough for a pair of Oscars plus a few other tank mates. I have two albino
red Oscars that have great color to them. I bought them when they were about 1-2
inches long. They are now about 6 inches and doing fine. I have both of them in
the 125 gallon tank with 3 Severum, two Plecos, a blood parrot, a large
snakeskin Gourami and a dojo loach. All of them get along fine, the Oscars run
into each other sometimes trying to beat each other to food. I've read that it
is better to have either just 1 Oscar or several but not just 2 due to the
larger one picking on the smaller one. I haven't had any problems, but both of
my Oscars are pretty close in size. Do you think this size tank is big enough
for them to grow healthy and happy in? Thanks for the advice
< The tank size is fine. If your Oscars decide to pair off then all the other
fish in the tank will be in trouble. Cichlids guard their eggs and young from
all other fish. They may even kill the other fish to protect their young.
Something to out for when they get bigger than 8 inches or so.-Chuck>
Bill
Wet Web Psychics
Could use your helps please guys!
<So long as I do not have to leave my house.>
Hopefully you can answer a question I have that I hear a different answer for
every time I ask!
<Damn Magic Eightballs, so wishy washy. Just give me a straight answer, please.>
I currently have 3 Oscars (2 tigers, and an albino red) all between 5 1/2 and 7
inches collectively, and a 14 inch common Pleco (no joke, this is the largest
Pleco I've seen before)
<I know them well.>
in a 100 gallon tank, with a Fluval 403 canister filter.......is there a problem
with this setup?
<Yes>
Is my tank too small?
<As I see it, Yes.>
Will I need more filtration?
<Yes Definitely>
Will I eventually need to re-house one of my Oscars?
<Cannot Predict Now>
Your help with this query would be greatly appreciated, as I have the time and
money to do what is right for these fish, but I need to know what actually is
right first ;)
<Better Not Tell You Now. Ok, Ok, sorry, I'm done. Environmental variables
will directly affect their growth rates. Diet, water temperature, water
quality, tank mates, and on and on, will all play a role in their development.
Luckily with a 100gal tank you have some time to plan for their futures
(College? Medical School? Maybe even an Astronotus?) It all depends on the
quality of life you want for your fish. If you keep them in the 100gal and do
everything else perfect, you are going to find yourself with 3-5feet of Oscar
that have no room to swim, attitudes to match their size, appetites to match
their attitudes, and all that food has to go somewhere. It won't work in the
long run (2-5yearish). I give the Fluval a few more months at best. Great
filter, but buy itself it cannot keep up with the bioload. I'd add another
canister filter for now, and of course weekly to biweekly water changes.>
BTW these fish all get along great.
<Don't worry, that'll change in time. Consider some drift wood for your tank;
the less dominant will use it for cover, and the big boys can push it around
without injuring they fleshy faces.>
in advance
what's best for my Oscars
<Frequent water changes and a varied diet.-Gage>
Tank size for Oscars
I had a question on how big of a tank I should get for my 4 Oscars (1 lace, 1
tiger, 2 albino red) and still have room for some other fish, and what other
fish would be a good choice preferably other cichlids)? Also for this tank what
kind of filtration would be needed?
< If you intend to grow them to adults then I would recommend a 100 gallon tank
with a power filter that pumps at least 400 gallons per hour.-Chuck>
Thanks
Huge Oscars
Hi Bob
I am lost in Oscar land...
One of my friends had to leave the country for business and had to leave his
Oscars behind. I collected them a few days ago. I was completely caught by
surprise. They are huge fish (5 years old). The Oscars had a stressful ride home
after which I immediately placed them in a 20 gallon tank (biggest I had). The
tank was set up only 2 days before.
The male was very stressed at first and stayed on the bottom of the tank.
The female seemed fine. The water quality deteriorated so I installed another
filter and partially changed the water. The male started eating again the next
day, but the female has not eaten at all.
(3 day now) This morning I found the female resting at the bottom of the tank.
Her stomach is a little swollen and her lips are a faint pink color.
One of my friends suggested that I try feeding her live food.
What should I feed them?
Should I partially change the water again?
Should I move them to a bigger tank at this stage?
The water is still a bit milky at this stage...
This is the first time I try my hand at Oscars so any advice would be much
appreciated.
< The milky water is ammonia and needs to be removed. Your fish should be in a
55 gallon tank that has a filter that turns the water over at least three times
per hour. It will take a month to get the beneficial bacteria going to break
down the toxic ammonia down to less toxic nitrites and then even less toxic
nitrates. They should be keep at 80 degrees and fed a high quality flake and
pellet food. Stay away from live or frozen food until you get them into a larger
tank. If you intend to keep them in the smaller tank then you will need to
change lots of water every day as well as change the filter almost every day. If
you do not do this then they surely will become ill.-Chuck>
Regards
Jaco
Lazy Oscar/High Nitrates
Hello, I just purchased a 1" Tiger Oscar - by recently, I mean yesterday.
When I got home, he seemed ill before I even got him out of the bag. He was just
resting on the bottom of the bag on his side. When I moved the bag, he would
swim around a bit, but then just settle back to the bottom again. Since the
store was already closed by then, I let him loose into the tank to see how he
fared. He swam about for a minute or two, but then settled down to the bottom
again. Every once in a while for the rest of the night, I would take a look
over, and he would be in a different spot - but never saw him swimming around.
After I turned out the light for the night, I noticed he began swimming around
quite a bit. Now this morning, I noticed that as soon as I turned on the light
and went to feed him, he stopped swimming and rested down to the bottom again.
Whenever I looked over today, he seemed to be on his side on the bottom. But
now, from across the room, I see him swimming around rather energetically. But
as I just walked over to the tank, he swam to the corner and rested on the
bottom. However, there are no visual symptoms of any illnesses, that I can see.
The only water condition that I am adjusting is the nitrates - any suggestions
as to how to lower that? The only thing I've found so far is to do water
changes, but that hasn't been successful in any of my tanks so far. So,
basically, what I'm asking is do you think he could be lazy, or just nervous
around me and his new surroundings? Or could there be something actually wrong
with him?
Thanks,
Brian
<Hi Brian, Don here. I think he may have been in the bag a little too long.
That, combined with the stress of a new home. Don't feed him for a day or two.
He won't eat anyway. Let him get good and hungry. Do a few extra water changes.
He should recover and start to hunt around the tank in a few days. Don't feed
until then. If there are other fish in the tank, they'll be fine. Watch for
aggression though. Hope this is a big tank. As to the nitrate question. Nitrate
is the end result of the ammonia cycle. It will always raise in a well
established aquarium. In a cichlid tank there is nothing you can do except large
and frequent water changes. With smaller fish plants would help. Make sure you
use a gravel vac when removing water. The fish waste and uneaten food will add
to the nitrates faster than your Oscar! Move rocks, driftwood and clean up under
them. Then limit the number of fish per tank and feed lightly. Adjust your water
change schedule to keep nitrates under 20ppm. If you're doing more than two a
week, you have too many fish. Unless your source water has nitrate <US Federal
Standard is under 5ppm for drinking water> the only way it enters your tank is
in the fish's food. Eaten or not it ends up as nitrate and MUST be removed with
water changes. Getting the waste out before it decays is very important to
nitrate control>
Overcrowded Oscars
I have a 10 gallon tank with 1 sucker fish and 3 other fish. The other fish
are small (1-2 inch) Oscar fish.
<Whoa! Way too many fish for this tank! A full grown Oscar can reach nearly 18
inches long so even one Oscar is way too much for a 10 gallon tank. These 4 fish
should be kept in no smaller than a 75 gallon aquarium, 100 gallon would be
better.>
I'm having a problem however with the tank. The water stays clear for only about
a day and then no matter what I do, unless I do a full water change it stays
cloudy. The pH is 7.0, I've added "algae fix" to help keep the algae in
control. I've tried "tetra aqua-easy balance" to try to get rid of the
cloudiness, as well as "clear water" which is supposed to remove
cloudiness. Nothing is working. It's getting frustrating because the tank just
isn't as pretty when it's cloudy.
<This is all probably a result of the tank being overcrowded. The water quality
is probably very poor because of the feeding necessary and the wastes from the
fish. Algae is not causing the cloudy water here, it’s probably ammonia.>
Is there something I'm missing? Something else I should be testing, like
ammonia and nitrate levels? If so what should the level for my fish be?
<Ammonia and nitrites should be at 0 in any aquarium. You need to either get a
much bigger tank for your fish or get rid of the Oscars and get some fish that
stay small for your current tank. Be sure to do lots of research on the fish you
plan to keep *before* you buy them. There’s a ton of info available on
http://www.wetwebmedia.com and also at
http://www.fishbase.org >
Thanks...Kendall
<You're welcome! Ronni>
FW Filtration
Howdy,
I found your site and read for a few hours yesterday learning a TON of
information regarding my new 30 gallon freshwater tank.
<Glad we have found each other>
The basic setup that I have is a 30 gallon Power Filter, 100 watt heater,
thermometer, ammonia chart (which changes color in the presence of ammonia), 2
plastic plants, and one large plastic magma/lava rock formation. I have (2)
small 3 inch Tiger Oscars, and one 4 inch blue channel catfish. When I first
got my tank I had read differing ways of cycling the tank for the first time and
the leading websites, not yours, recommended just starting the tank with 2 to 3
small, hardy fish.
<Yes>
Let me start by what I did wrong: WAY overfed them, tried a bunch of different
chemicals (store-bought) to deal with the ammonia problem. This led to ICK
which I am now treating with CURE-ICK.
<Yikes! Quite an adventure>
Today I literally cleaned my whole tank with a light bleach solution and a 100%
water change. I know this will now need to start the new cycle again and is but
a temporary solution but I wanted to get all of the scuz out of my tank and
start fresh – and hopefully a little wiser.
<Much better>
The questions that I have are as follows:
How often should my fish be fed on a normal basis? Every day or every
other? This is what my LFS recommended because of my ammonia problem.
<Twice a day for most aquarium fishes that might go in a thirty gallon system...
some need to be target fed (like sinking pellets for bottom dwellers)... If you
suspect ammonia et al. nitrogenous wastes might be a problem you're encouraged
to get and use test kits... not to feed at all if the ammonia, nitrite approach
1.0 ppm.>
How MUCH should I feed my fish? A friend claims the stomach is about the size
of the eye.
<Better to use time as a guide here. Tap some food into the top of the can it
comes in for gauging about how much you're applying... and see if they eat this
much in a couple, three minutes... there should be no food laying about>
What other type of filtration would you recommend besides the Power filter that
I have? Please try to give me the best solution under $200.
<Perhaps adding an airstone, pump for same, tubing, a check-valve... the present
power filter is fine otherwise>
Erm, anything else that you can help me with would awesome and thanks again!
Awesome website!!! Jim Howrie
<Looking forward to your future participation. Bob Fenner>
FW Filtration
Thanks for the speedy reply! I do have an air pump, tubing, and one of
those fibrous release tubes. I have the air pump set to max for the most
aeration possible but do not use an air stop or check valve.
<Do get one or at least "loop" your tubing above the aquarium height... to
discount the possibility of back-siphoning (started by capillation) in the event
of power or pump failure>
My main concern is that the filter will not really allow enough of a medium for
"good" bacteria to set up on. Another problem is feeding. These Oscars will
eat and eat damn near non-stop if I feed them. I was target feeding the
catfish. I would drop about 3-4 shrimp pellets into the corner where he hangs
out just after I turn out the light at night.
<Good technique>
How long should the light be on for a day? Should I get on of those little
timers to regulate the light?
<A good idea. If no plants, about any length, regimen you like... perhaps ten,
twelve hours a day>
And I know that you are an expert and all, but are you sure there isn't a better
way for me to filter? Such as getting a biological filter or a combo or
something?
<Mmm, more filtration would be better, will be absolutely necessary with your
fishes growth... you could add another outside power filter (hang on or canister
type)...>
I will eventually get a larger set up when the Oscars get larger so anything
that you recommend now should and will be used for the larger tank anyway so it
would not be a waste of money. From what I have read on your website too much
filtration is never a problem.
<This is correct>
So what type of filter system would you recommend for a freshwater say 55 gallon
tank?
<For Oscars et al., vigorous outside power filtration, powerheads in the tank to
add circulation, aeration... and frequent partial water changes... likely ten,
twenty percent a week, with gravel vacuuming.>
Thanks again!!! Jim Howrie
<You're welcome. Bob Fenner>
Milky water (Oscars... FW...)
Hi Rochell and Chris>>
Hi I have a 66 gallon with a Fluval 404 2 heaters 2 aerators 3 Oscars 1 convict
its been set up for 2 months and I cant get rid of the milky white water iv
tried weekly water changes and it just wont go away if you have any ideas I
would appreciate it thank you
<<We're going to need more information. What are your water parameters? Do you
have the necessary test kits? If not, run a sample of your *source* water and
your *tank* water to a local fish store you trust and have them test your water
for you, or, invest in some good quality tests for pH, ammonia, nitrite,
nitrate, and hardness.
I don't know how big the Oscars are, but unless they are small this tank is
overloaded, and regardless, will be overloaded in short order by the Oscars, let
alone the convict. My bet is on poor water quality with these big eating messy
cichlids. Testing will tell you what is going on. You will need to either
sell/trade a couple fish, or plan on a bigger tank. Adult Oscars get big.
Craig>>
- Filtering Oscars -
<Greetings, JasonC here...>
I am in the process of purchasing filters for a 125 gallon Oscar tank. I
recently ordered an Ocean Clear 340 and a Mag Drive 1200 pump for the tank. I
was hoping that I could get an opinion from you people as to if this would be a
good and efficient filtration method for keeping these fish in this size tank.
<It's about as efficient as 'you' care to be. Due to the nature of these
filters, which is really a high flow canister filter, it will be up to you to
change the media regularly. If you don't, it won't be efficient at all. Other
than that, it's a fine filter and probably what you need for a tank of this
type.>
Thank you for your help.
Brian T. Peek
<Cheers, J -- >
What size tank do I need?
Hi, last year I bought a 44 gallon tank, 2 red bellied Pacu, and 2 Oscars (1
tiger and 1 red) all from PetSmart. I was told that they could live happily
together in that tank, but now they are all huge and seem very sad about their
small living area! One Pacu is 12 inches, the other is 10, my red Oscar is 6
inches, and my tiger Oscar is 9 inches. I buy all of my supplies at PetSmart,
but no longer trust the advice given by the employees there! Could you please
send me an e-mail telling me the appropriate size tank I should buy for my
babies?!?!
<I hate to be the bearer of bad news but to comfortable hold these 4 fish when
they are full grown you are going to need at least a 300-400 gallon tank and
even that is going to really be pushing the limits. The Pacus can reach sizes of
about 3 1/2 feet long each and the Oscars can reach about 18 inches each. Ronni>
Keeping Oscar cichlids in the tank
Alrighty kids, long time listener.....first time caller. I have a question
and then a little "story." <I'm all ears>
I've had a few different aquariums thru the years and I want to start a new one.
My Oscar committed suicide the other evening (hence the "story") but we'll get
back to that in a minute. I like the larger fish, so I wanted to put a green
Severum, a parrot fish, and an Oscar.....with a Pleco together? <Parrot is the
odd fish out> Is this allowed or will they tear each other apart. <Leave out the
parrot, and you may keep the piece for a while. You'll need 150 or more gallons
to do it, though> Ultimately, I would like to have 3 large fish (could be two
of the same fish) and one Pleco living together in perfect harmony (Any
thoughts?) <Achievable! It's what we all stride for. A biotopic display is
your best chance at peace.> I like fish with character. The four I chose are
the ones I like a lot. Once I figure out the fish that can be together, I will
get the proper sized tank. Any inkling of info on this matter would be greatly
appreciated. <Get them young, hope for the best. Oscars aren't mean spirited,
per se, they're just consistently hungry. A pair of Oscars and a large Pleco is
going to require a huge commitment on its own...And a killer bioload depending
on your filtration> Now onto the story.......My Oscar was about 10" long, so
the other day I wake up and come down stairs and what do I see laying on the
floor quite a few feet away from my tank!!? That's right, my Oscar. Somehow he
knocked the entire hood and light into the aquarium (yea I know, hoods with the
light on them are heavy) and then tried to dodge the falling debris and ended up
on the floor. <Ouch> Alas, I am saddened.....but what can you do, but to move on
and forge ahead.<Too true>
Ergo, starting a new bigger and better tank with latches on the hood, lots of
latches, latches with chains hooked to them and then wrapped
around.......<Ha! Better not let the Oscars see the combination on your
Masterlocked tank! These things happen-To our dismay. I think you'd be more
successful with a species tank. If you like fish with personality, check out
the Tilapia butikoferi. Must be housed alone, but it's a great "Bad boy."> I
look forward to hearing from you kids. <And we look forward to hearing back from
you! Until next time, Ryan>
Oscars?
How do you know all that about Oscars men can you give me some more tips to
race some Oscars because I already have three and I want them to grow really
good you know and something more can you give me some pictures of the Oscar you
have. okay <Oscars are very easy to raise....all you have to do is provide a
large aquarium for them (75 gallons to start) feed them sparingly and do small
frequent water changes. And choose their tank mates wisely. Whatever you do,
don't feed your Oscars feeder goldfish or feeder fish. You would be surprised
how many diseases the goldfish can give to your precious Oscar. As for the
pictures I suggest you go to www.google.com and do an image search for "Oscars".
IanB>
Cramped Oscars
<Hello! Ryan with you>
I have a 30 gallon freshwater fish tank I have 3 Oscars and 2 Cichlids fish in
there. I have fallen in love with a Albino Oscar and would like to know How many
more fish I can fit in the tank. Currently my fish get along fine. My tank has
been up for 2 months.
<1 Oscar will be cramped in your 30 gallon setup when fully grown. You've
fallen in love with an animal that's going to require more space, certainly if
you'd like to keep more than one. Four Oscars would require 125+ gallons for
adequate room for movement. Good luck! Ryan>
Oscar problems
I was reading the articles listed. I am having a problem with one of my
tigers. First I have them in a 55 gallon tank they are both only about 6 inches
each, they were bought at the same time and have been together.
<Okay>
Recently we had gotten some bad spring water which caused an algae growth. I
have been doing tank changes of at least 50% every other day and it is pretty
much under control. But now one of my guys is laying around and his sides look
as though the other has been pecking at it. I do not know if I have males or
females or one of each. I did go to my local pet store to see if they new
anything that I could do. They had the usual round of questions did I test the
water if they are eating etc. Water is at normal levels
<Normal being what? What are your readings for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and
pH? You mentioned spring water - what are you using for these large water
changes?>
and no they are not eating for at least 3 days now.
<*Neither* of them are eating? I would have suspected aggression above all
things, but this does throw in a twist. Most likely this is an environmental
issue - with the massive water changes especially; what is your current pH, and
has it changed at all since before the water changes? Bottled spring water may
very well not always have the same pH, other parameters. Is there any reason
you don't use (dechlorinated) tapwater?>
Any information you can offer greatly appreciated. Karen
<I do hope we can be of service, and help you figure out what's going
on.... -Sabrina>
"Oscar in brackish...?!?" (10/28/03)
<Hi! Ananda here this afternoon...>
Hi, I'm trying to figure out what I might have in my tank. I have a brackish
tank, it is kept at about 78-80 degrees. the specific gravity is 1.005, the pH
is 7.2-7.4. nitrite, nitrate, and ammonia are all zero, and I do a weekly 25%
water change.
<So far so good...>
About three weeks ago our African cichlid (sorry the exact type was never known)
showed signs of fin rot.
<Wait. This was in the brackish tank? African cichlids are *not* brackish fish.
Also, 7.2-7.4 is far too low a pH for them.>
I treated the tank with Maracyn, by the third day the cichlid was moving around
again, and the forth even showed signs of re-growth. On the morning of the fifth
I found him dead. I continued the treatment until finished. Then did a large
water change (half). I waited a little over a week and then got an red Oscar
from a reputable fish store. Within about 3-4 hours in my tank the Oscar showed
signs of fin rot and body fungus and was dead in under 12 hours. During this
whole period I tested the tank frequently and never found a reading off.
<Oscars are even less of a brackish fish than African cichlids. They're from
South America, where the water is salt-free and on the acidic side of things. I
am not surprised you lost the Oscar -- it suffered from osmotic shock in being
moved from freshwater to brackish water, and possibly pH shock as well.>
The other three fish we have including a bumble bee Oscar show no signs of
anything and were perfectly fine throughout the whole ordeal. (also a Columbian
shark and a figure 8 puffer)
<Hmmm. The bumblebee Oscar will do better in a freshwater tank, too. But do not
move him directly from a brackish system to a freshwater system -- that
transition should be done slowly. The other two fish should remain in a brackish
system.>
I trust my fish store and the rest of the Oscars there are all fine.
<Yes, as they are in a freshwater system.>
What could possibly effect only these fish and happen so fast?
<Osmotic shock and pH shock.>
I would really like to get another fish, probably an Oscar or cichlid but I'm
scared there's still something in my tank. Thanks -Dan
<Get another tank before you get another fish -- then move your existing Oscar
to the tank, slowly drop the spg. down to 1.0000, and then consider getting
another Oscar. Oscars, African cichlids, and brackish fish come from very
different water chemistries and should not be kept in the same tank. --Ananda>
I have two Oscars …
<Hi there, Just want to start off this email with the note that Oscars get
very large, and you will need a large tank to handle both of these fish when
they get older. They become aggressive and territorial, not to mention
extremely messy. So, please make sure that you have a large enough tank to
allow each room. I suggest a single Oscar should be kept in a minimum of a 55
gallon tank. Two Oscars, if they are a mated pair can do well in a 90 gallon
breeder tank (larger footprint). If these pair aren't mated then +100 gallon
tank is needed.>
The other day I came home to find the smaller of the 2 (4 inches) with all of
its scales off and in two spots its flesh was exposed…
<Your Oscars are fighting. The larger more dominant one is attacking the
smaller one because it's invading it's "territory". This is a sign that you
probably have to small of a tank. It's missing scales because the larger one is
attacking and ripping them off. This is not good because that means that the
fish will have damaged fins and skin and will run the risk of infections.>
Now two days later it has this fluffy white substance coming out of the 2 wounds
…I’m hoping its not a fungus but I have a feeling it is.
<Yes it's fungus. In fact True Fungus which is described as Whitish tufts of
cotton-like material on the fin, tail, and body at sites of injury.>
Please let me know what’s the best way to take care of this
<separate the fish so that the little Oscar is not being attacked and scales
ripped off is the first thing you should do. Set up a medicine tank to handle
the fish, and you might want to set up a large one for it to be his permanent
home. Once it's in a separate tank I suggest you start medicating him
immediately body fungus is dangerous, and can spread quite easily on a stressed
and sick fish. Treat with MarOxy (a medicine produced by the Mardel company).
Use Maracyn-Two or Maracyn or Tetracycline or TriSulfa to prevent secondary
infections.>
and also if there is any food that may be more appealing to him (not to
interested in eating since the whole thing happened)
<That is to be expected, he is being attacked by a dominant fish, his natural
reaction is to back down, hide and allow the larger fish to eat. There are many
different foods for your Oscar, they aren't picky at all. Not sure what you are
feeding, but Hikari makes some rather nice Oscar pellets that most Oscars go
crazy for. If not, then you might want to try feeding you Oscar a couple of
Crickets (yes the little bugs you get at the store) Oscars diets in the wild
are over 60% bugs. Just float them on the surface and the Oscar might be
intrigued by the bug to perk him up and then he will start eating again.>
Thanks so much!!! Dena
<Hope that helps. Good luck with the fish, and look around online there are some
great forums totally dealing with Oscars. -Magnus>
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