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Fiberglass Koi Pond; repair         7/9/15
Hi experts
I am putting in a fiberglass koi pond and we have a leaking issue at the rhino drain where it attached to the fiberglass. My installer suggested laying more fiberglass to build it up.
<Mmm; possibly... is the pond back-filled already? IF it were mine and the fitting (both sides) was still revealed, I'd undo it (the threaded nut) and add another gasket, AND Silastic/Silicone rubber, on both sides and retighten w/ just a FEW lb.s of torque>

I need to know if those products for boat repairs etc are harmful to fish.
<Mmm; some are... but so is fiberglass... Many epoxies, when cured, are safe>
Please any ideas? The pond is 1000 gallons and we need to have enough strength in this to hold the weight of the water from separating from the outside edges of the drain.
<Yes; understood... and back to my best/original suggestion. Two gaskets and the Silastic are the optimal choice for leakproofedness, given the eventuality of change, twisting of the pond, fitting. Have your installer contact me please>
I thank you in advance for your advice
--Robin---
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
RE: Fiberglass Koi Pond        7/9/15

Hello Bob, Thank you for your fast response - Need a phone number to pass on to my installer.
<Have them write>
Always in HIS service,
--Robin---
<Whose? Please, no ref.s to invisible friends. BobF>
RE: Fiberglass Koi Pond

Thank you Bob - can you tell me what Silastic is?
<? Use WWM? Your search tool....>
is it a caulk? where does one buy that?
<Deleting the nonsense here. BobF>

fiberglass pond repair   6/11/12
I have a 400gal freeform pond approx.8ft x 6ft 2ft deep with 3 steps [1 at each corner] After 5yrs, it began to loose <lose> water; I removed it from the garden to look for the leak and found no crack or damage. It had become porous and water was seeping through all sides. I coated the areas with resin,
<Should've added a layer of fiberglass cloth>
 tested and reinstalled. Now a year later, it is loosing <losing> water
again. The garden is now established and removing it will be a project. Can the pond be repaired from the inside using fg cloth this time without causing toxic leaching after curing?
<Yes>
 Or should the pond be removed again and reglassed from the outside?
<I'd do from the inside; taking great care to distribute your weight while in the basin (if you're stepping in)>
 Do you have any other suggestions including paints, epoxies, membranes, rubber coating etc.? I hope this can be a non recurring problem!
<I do. I'd do the repair w/ (hot coat) repair/coating resin (not casting)
and thin fiberglass cloth (long sleeve shirt, pants, gloves...), please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/FiberglsRepF.htm
   Thank you, Doug   Long Valley, NJ
<Welcome. Bob Fenner, San Diego, CA>
Re: fiberglass pond repair

Thank you for the quick reply; will have to wait for the frequent rainstorms to stop then I will prep the pond for repair. Can you recommend the resin and fiberglass [weight] and where to get the products [internet].
<Mmm, let's see: are you in the US? If so, it may be necessary for you to buy in-state... and through a "boat or pool/spa repair" or such outlet... hopefully they have light weight cloth in rolls. IF you have not much experience w/ these applications, DO get help from someone who does>
 It looks like the whole interior of the pond will have to be covered. How long after curing will it be safe for the fish?
<About two weeks for curing (keep the rain and sun out w/ a screen). BobF>
Thanks again,  Doug

using flex seal [tm] for sealing a fiberglass pond   8/22/11
Hello there....I am in a slight quandary....I am in the process of installing a 1000 +/- gallon fiberglass shell pond..it had 5, 2 inch holes cut in it a various places that I fiberglassed over
<Mmm, how? That is, can you describe your repairs? If the areas cut through could have over-the-hole patches installed on both sides, this would be ideal. IF not (only the inside being accessible), solid patches with fiberglass cloth and two coats of hot-coat resin...>
...found a few cracks in the corners that I also did fiberglass repair on...think there may be a pin hole or 2 that I may have missed though....now the big question...do you know if..or would recommend that I use a rubberized coating on the entire inside of the pond shell ??
<Mmm, I do not. However, my experience w/ such applications has been dismal. The rubberized coating not really adhering to the fiberglass over any period of time. Better to use a good grade of suitable "coating" resin, perhaps colour and material to make it non-skid (slippery... like sand, walnut shell...)>
..thinking of using
the "as seen on TV" spray on flex seal [tm] stuff...
<This: https://www.getflexseal.com/
and you may want to see here: http://www.scambook.com/group/view/86/Flex-Seal
says on the can and on the website that you can use it on "ponds"...but in the faq section they do not recommend it for coating the inside of a drinking water holding tank..
<Different liability...>
I am not sure what to do...replacing the pond shell is not an option as everything has already been prepped for it's size and shape..approx 10.5 x 5.5/6.5 x 2 ft deep..kinda of peanut shaped..please advise on this as I have not been able to find any reference to this question anywhere on the web...thanks for your time, Dave
<Again; I don't have any personal experience w/ this commercial product; but I would not be using it on a fiberglass pond/surface. Our bit re fiberglass ponds is archived here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/fibrglsconstr.htm
and the linked FAQs file above. Bob Fenner>
Re: using flex seal [tm] for sealing a fiberglass pond..part 2    8/22/11
Hello again...forgot the most important info..duh....this pond is replacing a well established 12 yr old 300 gal plastic
<?... the last email stated the pond/repair involved a fiberglass shell/basin... of 1000 gallons. Am not following you here. If what pertinence is this further information? BobF>
pond that is home to several Koi, goldfish, catfish and 2 red ear sliders..thanks, Dave

Fiberglass pond repair  -- 06/07/07 If you resurface a pond with fiberglass is it safe to put fish in it, or will the fiberglass kill the fish thank you Frances <Needs to be cured... but can be done... Not the best material in almost all cases... unless the original construct was/is fiberglass and resin... Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/Pond%20Sub%20Web.htm Scroll down to the tray on "Repair". Bob Fenner>

Repairing fiberglass waterfall  - 12/04/06 I am trying to repair a prefab fiberglass waterfall. There are no cracks in it. It has lost its original coloring as it is nearly 6 years old. <Yes...> We have about 7 fish and I don't want to use anything that will harm them. Do you know if regular colored grout can be used? <Do know, and no, cannot be used> Thanks for any info you could send my way. <A repair can be made if the original fiberglass/resin isn't too badly delaminated, and the area behind the break is supported well enough (not too flexible)... with fiberglass cloth (look for in determinate widths), color/ing if you'd like, laminating/hot-coat resin and hardener, oh and a "throw-away" small brush to apply it. The falls must be dry, clean, and I'd roughen up the surface with a low grit sandpaper of sorts... do wear gloves, long-sleeve shirt and avoid the bits of fiberglass removed... let cure... Bob Fenner> <<Bob, as I read this letter, I thought he was simply trying to restore coloration to an aged fiberglass structure, not repair a structural piece. I was going to try my hand at a reply, but you beat me to it *grin* My suggestion was to be to dry the waterfall surface and try a buffing compound such as 3M Imperial Rubbing Compound to bring back the coloration... Oftentimes oxidation of this sort is simply buildup on the surface of the fiberglass and will buff right out.. I can't tell you how many lake-worn boats I've brought back to a showroom shine with some buffing compound and some elbow grease. Hope this helps! -JustinN>> >Yikes... do see this as you state (now)... Will re-respond... My input remains the same excepting the use of the fiberglass cloth, tape... roughen up the surface, re-coat with colored laminating (not casting) resin and moderate/measured amount of MEK hardener. Thank you Justin. BobF< >>No problem, Bob, its what I appreciate most about the community here: the group think concept. Ideas are better thought out when you have more eyes looking at problems, I only ask for the same if I have any such similar incidents *grin*, Subsequently, while on the subject of refinishing a fiberglass structure as such, what is your opinion of one-part epoxy paints, such as those used for jet skis? These were some of the more readily accessible, easy to use, and cheap types of paint I dealt with in my time in the body work industry, and always gave very nice results. Would you feel them to be adequate for such a situation as described above? -JustinN<< <Mmm, likely so... given very thorough prep... Part of the reason I like the "hot coat" surfboard/use resins... they're much more "sticky", forgiving. Cheers, BobF> Lining a concrete pond  11/18/06 Hello WWM Crew, <Brian> Warm greetings from Sydney Australia where we are just entering summer and enjoying the worst drought in a thousand years (I am not sure how they worked that out as records only go back about 150 years!). <And such even numbers... reminds one of "budget" numbers from simple servants in the U.S.> I am very impressed with your extensive knowledge you share with the Web community and thank you for that.  I have a problem I was hoping you could assist with. <Will try> I have converted an old sunken garden into a pond by rendering it and covering the render with a two-part waterproof paint the name of which escapes me.  It is about 10 feet by 8 feet and about 3 feet deep.  It is a very happy home for seven goldfish and a whole bunch of vegetation.  This worked fine for 8 to 10 years but has recently developed a leak.  I found what I thought was the leak, scratched it out and filled with a silicon glue (a Selleys product) which seemed to slow the leak down but didn't stop it. I suspect there are roots from my neighbor's pine trees involved. <Very common> I have decided to line the existing concrete pond with a butyl rubber membrane and although I have scoured your excellent website I can't seem to find an answer to my questions. Can you comment on my decision to line the pond? <Is excellent... the roots will not penetrate this material> How should I attach the liner to the concrete? <Best to fashion a "lip" of sorts to hand the membrane in, pinch it to... and cap this with some sort of masonry with thin set mortar> How should I deal with the flaps produced when folding into the corners of the pond? <Try to "fold them in, leaving a bit loose at the top... though all will stretch and largely lay flat on filling> Thanks in advance, Brian Lee <Welcome my friend down under. Bob Fenner> Fixing pond leaks   9/5/06 Hi, I have a small outdoor pond that is old and cement.  It has  cracks.   What filler can I use under water and wet that won't kill the  plants or fish?   Geralin <... No filler... need to remove all, repair... Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/PondSubWebIndex/concrepart.htm and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Pond repair advice. Dear Sir, I have a small glass fiber pond in my garden, which is let into the garden surface and to disguise the edges, a cement and natural stone layer of about four inches has been laid on top of the pond edge. A sealing agent, Uni Bond, was added to the cement to make it waterproof. The pond edge is lower at one end, where water flows over a small waterfall into a larger pond below the waterfall. Unfortunately a leak has developed at the lower end of the pond and water is getting out between the top edge of the fibre glass pond and the stone work above it, resulting in a serious loss of water when the pond filtration system is in use. <Very, very common> Having looked on your web site and found a reference to Polyurethane/Bitumen and Chlorinated-Rubber, I am wondering if either of these materials would be suitable to use to seal the leak. Some years ago I used a material called Pond Seal, which was of a bit consistency and could be applied with the use of a brush. A couple of coats of this would seal any leak. This product no longer seems to be available in this part of the country. <Any idea of its composition?... As we will likely agree, you need something with good bonding action for both types of materials (after cleaned thoroughly and dried of course), and elasticity and "thickness" to do the job...> I have used G4 previously, but the water eventually gets between the glass fibre and the G4 sealer and a leak recommences. <Yes> Perhaps you would be good enough to advise me of the correct type of material to use for the repair, the quantity sizes available and price. Yours faithfully, D S Gurd. BEM. <Yes, certainly... if this area is not very large I am inclined to suggest a silicone (100%) sealant much like those used for caulking tubs, windows (just make sure it is 100%, sans mildewcides...) and for assembling glass aquaria. These come in a few colors... and I would try to get one that matches your rock, or failing this, the black variety... in cartridges will be best, with your fingers, perhaps a putty knife to work into and about the broken/flexing area. This repair will last a few years, and is your best bet for choices in repair materials. Bob Fenner>

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Ponds, Streams, Waterfalls & Fountains:
Volume 1. Design & Construction
Volume 2. Maintenance, Stocking, Examples

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V. 2 Print and eBook on Amazon
 

by Robert (Bob) Fenner
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