Fat lawnmower has critters in his tummy... 4/19/08
Hello
again!
<Dana>
You all were so helpful with my last predicament, I
thought of coming to this site again first for some more info!
I have
checked out the disease pages, especially on parasites and I am trying
to decide if my lawnmower blenny has tape worms or if these are just the
copepods he munches on along with the algae! Watching these things
'swim' around in his tummy made me think, ooh, babies! But, no, they're
egg layers so, now I'm a little concerned. He is acting very normal and
healthy, eats like a horse, just never noticed the movement inside his
tummy till just now, any ideas? These 'things in question' look dark in
color and maybe a few centimeters long, about the size of a copepod,
<... cm.s, not mm.s?>
have I answered my own question?!
Thanks
again!
Dana
<Mmm, have never heard, seen such... a size/shape
parasite... that would be moving about here... Perhaps a picture? Bob
Fenner>
Lawnmower Blenny... beh./hlth. 03/06/2008
Hello
<<Hello, Andrew today>>
I have a 55 gallon tank i thought i had
enough algae in it so i got a lawnmower blenny, but now his mouth is
open and he seems to be breathing fast i have heard it has something to
do with him not getting enough to eat.
<<Quite possible>>
But i
wasn't sure so i tried feeding him two different things out of my frozen
multipack and putting some of the sheet algae but he isn't interested in
it i was wondering if you had any suggestions?
<<You could try
feeding the blenny on other herbivore based feeds like Spirulina, had
personal joy with marine algae pellets and wafers ( the sinking variety
)>>
<<Hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Lawnmower blenny; rock beauty... hlth. 2/4/08
Good
morning to all, your thoughts would be much appreciated: I have a rock
beauty which I obtained (rescued) at about 1"; he eats well and a year
or so later is about 3";
<Commendable>
for the past week or so, he
has been holding one gill cover out significantly, kind of the way one
would expect if a cleaner was being solicited; but this is constant,
respiration is normal, as are his routine and feeding; no evidence of
any injury or any parasite that I can see; he is in a FOWLR without any
cleaner wrasse or goby (I haven't seen a healthy cleaner wrasse for sale
for years). Thoughts?
<Sometimes... fishes, pomacanthids do this>
Secondly, I purchased a lawnmower blenny who over the course of a month
eliminated 95% of the filamentous green algae in the tank; however, he
is now losing weight and isn't interested in flakes, dried algaes or any
of the usual carnivore items. Ideas? Thanks, Steve.
<May be
internally parasitized... perhaps the algae, though goodly in quantity
is insufficient nutritionally... I'd likely supplement the food... try
Spectrum pellets... If it continues to lose weight, a treatment,
serially or concomitantly with a protozoacide (e.g. Metronidazole) and a
vermifuge (e.g. Prazi-)... All covered on WWM. Bob Fenner>
Lawnmower Blenny Quarantine 01/23/2008
Greetings,
<<Hello,
Andrew here>>
Great informative website. I read it daily.
<<Thank
you>>
Just a quick question regarding quarantine for a Lawnmower
Blenny. I always quarantine my fish for 3 weeks. Although my newly
acquired blenny is active (he even tries to jump out of the tank every
time I remove the cover for feeding), I am concerned that the blenny is
not adapting well in my bare bottom quarantine tank. I would like to
move him as soon as possible to my display tank so he/she can feed on
the algae and interact with the live rock and sand.
<<Yes, the blenny
will not adapt well to the bare bottom of a quarantine tank. However,
quarantine should not stopped because of this fact. Quarantining is a
must with all fish and should be carried out. The fish will soon settle
when it gets added to the aquarium. Provide a good algae diet for the
blenny while it runs through this period>>
He has been in quarantine
for 8 days and shows no signs of ich or other diseases. Should I stick
to the 3 week quarantine or could (should) I move him sooner?
<<As
above, stick to your normal quarantine process>>
Thanks. Mark Hill
<<Thanks for the questions. A Nixon>>
Bloated and gasping Lawnmower Blenny 8/22/07
Hey
guys:) Here's my question. I have a lawnmower blenny who has been
resting in a hospital tank for the last week. He is sickly bloated,
still. I put him in the hospital tank because his breathing was so rapid
he seemed like he was gasping for air and about to pass out and die. I
thought it might be parasites invading his gills, his outer body seemed
normal, nothing that I could see other than his breathing, so I gave him
a 5 day tetracycline bath along with AP Pro 'quick cure' for possible
parasites.
<Mmmm>
Temp is about 82* in the tank. His breathing,
although very calm - meaning it's still rapid,
<These blennies are
"fast breathers"... can you state about how many gill movements per
minute? A good approximation can be made with an assistant watching a
time piece, and you tapping a pencil on a piece of paper per
movement...>
but at this point seems more like a nervous twitch than
a breathing problem, and very bloated belly, worry me. My main tank is
very healthy. No problems with the rest of my fish. Got any ideas?
Ringo Gene
<SLOW the feeding of this animal WAY down... Perhaps
administer Epsom Salt (see WWM re... the search tool...). Time, patience
otherwise. Bob Fenner>
Re: Bloated and gasping Lawnmower Blenny 8/23/07
Hey Bob,
thanks for your reply. ... My Lawnmower didn't make it through the
night. He must've had a bad infection?
<Maybe...>
He got so
bloated in the last few days. This infection must have been around,
slowly progressing, for the last 5 to 6 weeks. I contacted you about his
fat belly around five weeks ago. His breathing seemed normal at that
time, it was his big belly I was worried about. (I found out a little to
late that I could purchase medicated frozen food from an LFS, whom I
contacted yesterday. He seemed to think it was an infection in his
belly. Wish I had time to get you the info on breaths per minute you
requested. Can you recommend a good 'symptoms and cures' book I should
own? Maybe yours? Read somewhere you have a book out.
<Microcosm/TFH
is coming out with a new one soon that's supposed to be very nice... my
fave as a stand-alone is Ed Noga, Fish Disease, Diagnosis and
Treatment... but it's pricey... and not very hobby-user-friendly...>
PS You replied <Hmmm> when I mentioned the medication. I was told to
treat the fish in this manner by 2 LFS's. Should I have done this?
<Not what I would advise, no>
They seem to know how to 'buy, sell and
raise fish', but there medical skills... We need a fish medic. Someone
could make a good living in Los Angeles should they open a 'LF Clinic'.
A sad day for me,
Ringo Gene - not a Beetle:)
<Heeee! Nor a
Beatle? My fave all time musical group! BobF>
Re: Bloated and gasping Lawnmower Blenny 8/24/07
Yeah, Beatle. Ha! Anyway, as far as the medication, what would you have
advised for this situation? Would sure help me in the future.
Ringo -
Parents were, ...on something:)
<Fab, gear... hard to type with all
these rings on me fingers... Perhaps administration of a modicum of
Epsom Salt... see WWM re. BobF>
Ailing Lawnmower Blenny
Good morning one and all.
I have a quick question regarding my
Lawnmower Blenny. He started off looking good and fat and is now slowly
becoming more thin. There is still a predominance of hair algae in the
tank that he takes no notice off but instead tries to eat the glass of
the tank. What supplements can I give him in order to get him fat and
healthy again? He ignores the Nori and the Dulse that I use to feed the
tang.
<Very bad sign>
All tank parameters are great and everyone
else is healthy, the corals are flourishing. Now I just need to get him
back up to speed. Any suggestions would be great.
Cheers.
Julian
Hunt
<Of the major categories of probable cause here I'd discount
bullying, environmental pollution effects... and suggest that
"something" internal is at play... gut blockage from swallowing
"something", perhaps a developmental/genetic anomaly, more likely an
internal parasite of some sort. You can either "wait this out" hoping
the animal may spontaneously cure of its own (they get thin quite
quickly, and can perish in days to weeks w/o food), or try force-feeding
the Blenny with an anti-parasitic compound or mix (I suggest food laced
with Metronidazole)... in a quarantine system. Bob Fenner>
Chubby Salarias (Algae Eating Blenny)
Bob,
While reading your
newest faq page today (a daily ritual...just hope the boss doesn't
see!)
<Yikes, me neither>
I read a question from someone that was
worried about a chubby Salarias, and would like to relate a recent
experience I had with a lawnmower blenny.
<Ah, great... can barely
wait till we have somewhat of a "forum" for folks to do this
interchange>
I had an outbreak of ich in my 72 gal in which I lost a
couple of fish, including a lawnmower blenny. I treated my tank and was
able to save 3 fish, much thanks to you on your help with that
situation. After all had settled down I ordered another Salarias from
FFExpress, and it arrived healthy and happy and went to work eating off
the live rock. Within the first two weeks I noticed he was FAT...this
little fishes belly was so bulged he could barely perch on his fins
without his gut hitting bottom. Yet he continued to eat and eat and eat.
A month after adding the fish I added a small flame angel that also
spends a great deal of time picking off the live rock, but also eats
flake and frozen food very well. Then, 3 weeks ago I added a 3" yellow
tang, that eats a little flake food but spends most of the time grazing.
<Okay>
Over the last 3 weeks I noticed the Salarias getting thinner
and thinner, yet he was still munching on the live rock. Unfortunately
when I came into the office yesterday after the weekend he was laying on
his side and breathing rapidly and was dead by the end of the day.
Despite the 60+ pounds of live rock, did the angel, tang and blenny
simply not have enough grazing food?? Or did the blenny eat himself out
of food his first month? ( I can't stress how fat this fish was!) In all
he only lasted about 10 weeks in the tank.
<All of this is
possible... My "standard" statement is not to place a Salarias fasciatus
in anything smaller than a sixty, with plenty of healthy, established
live rock... and not to have too many competitors for the filamentous
algae to be cropped there... Sometimes I'll give a nod to the equally
prodigious and typically smaller Atrosalarias fuscus, another True or
Combtooth Blenny that is commonly available... instead, as it tends to
come in smaller, doesn't get as large, not as likely to starve...>
I'm hesitant now to get another Salarias because if I don't have enough
available food I don't want to loose another fish. This blenny was about
5 inches long. Is that large?
<Yes, about maximum size...>
What
is the possibility it died from old age?
<Some>
I didn't' notice
any parasites on him, and all the other fish are fine. The tang and the
angel are the only other fish that eat algae in the tank and would take
away from his food source (other than a clean up crew)
Anyway, just
curious and thought I'd pass on my experience with a fat
Salarias...maybe it will make someone think on their purchase of
tankmates in relation to available food.. I know I will, despite the
fact that the lawnmower blenny (nicknamed Torro) was the most popular
and comical fish in the office tank!
Thanks, as always,
Kris, PA
<Thank you for this input... I would try the Atrosalarias genus or
request a decidedly smaller Salarias (three inches or so) if it were my
system. Bob Fenner>
One last question. (chubby Salarias)
Hello again. Thanks so much for all of your advice and help so far.
We ended up going with a Rusty Dwarf Angel and a "Lemon" Tang (not sure
if that is it's real common name because I haven't found anything on it
yet.)
<Likely a mimic tang variety of Acanthurus pyroferus... take a
look on the WetWebMedia.com site re these>
But after 5 days, they've
both done extremely well, and there's been no quarreling between any of
the fish. the two new fish have both taken to the reef aquarium
comfortably and have found their own niches amidst the other fish and
reef life. it's still too early to tell, but I think they'll last us a
while barring any freak accidents. I just had one quick question,
though. since we removed the murderous Hawkfish, our algae blenny has
started to get noticeably chubby given his newfound freedom to graze
wherever he pleases. should I be worried about it eating too much?
<No... this happens in the wild and in captivity. No problem>
otherwise, all the fish are doing well. the Dottyback has even eased up
a bit on its aggressiveness since the introduction of the bigger dwarf
angel. thanks for all your help.
Chris Pua
<You're welcome my
friend. Bob Fenner>
Sick Lawnmower
Blenny 8/1/04
I need your assistance. My (female) lawnmower
blenny seems ill to me. She seems less active then normal and she is
eating but not at the same rate she used to. I had the manager of the
fish store stop by to take a look at her and he said she was losing some
color on her back but should be ok.
<hmmm... based on
these symptoms, there's not much to go on here (and it does not sound
like much/any problem>
I am really concerned. I checked my water
parameters yesterday and they were fine, I also took a sample into the
fish store to have them test and they said the parameters were fine
also. I really would like some suggestions on how to help her. I
absolutely adore this little creature. Thanks in advance, Karen
<the best way to stimulate fishes is a series of hearty water changes
and improving the diet. Let me suggest that you do at least three 25%
water changes in the next 2-3 week and add some Dick Boyd's Vita-Chem
(for vitamins of course) and Selcon (for HUFAs) to the diet (usually
soaking the thawed frozen foods... thaw and drain first, then add the
supplements before feeding to fishes). No worries :) Anthony>
Sick Lawnmower Blenny III 8/2/04
Thank you for your response. I
added some "Kent Garlic Supreme" to the food yesterday
and did a
partial water change today.
<very good>
I have also purchased
and added to the food "Kent Zoe Marine".
<I have little regard for
Kent products personally... but this may be helpful indeed>
She, the
lawnmower blenny, seems to be doing better today.
<the water
change gets the credit I assure you>
We were also wondering if the
moon light could be disturbing her at night , could it be affecting her
rest?
<no more than the moon on a reef <G>>
We turned the moon
light off when we went to bed last night and she seemed to do better
this morning..
Thanks again. Karen
<you fuss/worry too much
Karen... and I say that affably. Relax my friend... it is a relaxing
hobby.
Fussing with your tank and fishes in the long run makes
things worse.
Allow the system to find a groove and run a more
natural course without frequent knee-jerk reactions. kindly, Anthony>
Silly Blenny, or Sick Fish?
Hey crew,
<Hey Scott F. here
today!>
I notice that my algae blenny every once in a while will rub
up against the rocks. He doesn't do it very often and has done it for
quiet some time. Is there a normal behavior of blennies doing this, or
is it ich?? I searched the forums but didn't really find a definitive
answer.
Thank you, Todd
<I've seen various blennies engage in this
behavior periodically without them being ill. They are kinda goofy
characters at times. My advice is to simply keep a good eye on the fish
and be prepared to take action should symptoms manifest themselves. Good
luck! Regards, Scott F>
Mysterious Death
Hello,
I
have one question: Why my SALARIAS FASCIATUS died? Everything was ok,
but for few days his stomach was VERY BIG.<Could have been bloat> I
thought that he just ate too much but today I saw him behind the
rocks... What cause that?<Also could be a hitchhiker in the LR that
killed him> My water par, are great. In tank there was only him and
Foxface. Please tell me why he died...<I can not give you a definite
answer here all I can do is give you possibilities.>
BTW:
I can't
take him out of the tank, will my cleaner shrimps ate him?<Probably
not...you need to take this fish out post haste. It will pollute your
water.>
BTW2:
I'm going to put Zebrasoma flavescens to the tank.
Will be any problems with my Foxface (it's 55 gal, but will be 195).Will
they fight?
<I Have seen people do this before...normally it works
but sometimes it doesn't. If it were me I would purchase a purple tang
or a red sea sailfin tang because of the color difference.>
THX guys
<No prob, IanB>
Quarantine? 3/10/07
Dear WWM Crew,
<Jan>
As always, thanks for all of your help!! It is a great
comfort to be able to reach out to you folks and get such great advice
and help!
<Yes>
We have a 72G reef tank with about 80 lbs. of
LR. Our water parameters are
(Temp=77deg F, Sg=1.025, pH=8.3,
Ca=380ppm, Mg=1290ppm, dKH=6.75, Ammonia & Nitrite=0ppm, NO3=
5ppm). The tank was set up and cycled last May.
For about the last six months our live stock has consisted of a pair of
clowns (A. ocellaris), a fat mandarin (S. splendidus), and a school of 9
Chromis viridis. 15 various corals, 2 tube worms (Protula magnifica) 2
turbo snails and some (+/- 8) blue legged hermit crabs. In addition to
this we have 3 peppermint shrimp (L. wurdemanni) & 2 fire shrimp (L.
debelius) and 2 common cleaner shrimp (L. amboinensis).
We have 3
questions.
1. Our LFS has been holding a Hawaiian Yellow Tang (Z.
flavescens) for us for the last 2 weeks in their "quarantine" tank with
water dosed with copper. However, while the Tang has been alone in this
tank, the tank is connected to other tanks running on the same
water. Should we quarantine this fish? If so, for the full month or
just two weeks?
<I would quarantine this fish, or at the very least
run it through a prophylactic FW dip/bath... detailed on... WWM>
2.
We are also thinking of adding a Lawnmower Blenny (S. fasciatus) as our
tank has plenty of algae on the LR. Given this fishes need to graze
algae, should it be quarantined? If so, for how long?
<I would
quarantine this species for two weeks... some smaller, likely-to-starve
Blennioids for a shorter duration>
3. Also, concerning the Blenny &
Tang, given the size of our tank and the current livestock listed above,
do you see any potential problems with adding either or both of these
fish?
<Mmm, no... not really... The fifteen species of corals here
(in a 72 nominal gallon volume) should not be added to though... as they
are likely "used" to each other... will/would react to new Cnidarian
life adversely>
Thanks!!
Jan & Ellen
<Welcome.
Bob Fenner>