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Lighting Ugh/BTA Systems 11/11/09
<Hello Sabrina>
I am trying to buy the best lighting I can (afford) for my 55 gallon
tall tank (LWH) 48"13"20". I have 3 BTA's (clones) and they are the only
light sensitive animals in the tank. I would in the future like to put
other compatible light loving animals in the tank also. I may upgrade
the tank in the next year or so and need to ask your advice.
<I would not mix corals with three anemones in a 55 gallon tank. The
anemones can and do relocate and you will be risking the corals to the
anemone's sting in the process.>
There are 2 used systems which I have found in my price range. The first
is the blue limited edition T5 Tek 48" 6 bulb with two AquaBlue, two
actinic plus, and two pure actinics. And the second is a Coralife
Aqualight Pro (2) 250 watt mh HQI/(2) 96 watt pc. I know that the second
is a lot of light.
My thought was to take out the 96watts and use either 14k 15k or 20k
bulbs.
The first systems with lights the second does not. With all this in mind
what do you think? I have been reading and reading and reading but I
keep going back and forth. In truth used metal halide systems scare me.
The cost just seems really high and I needed a pros opinion.
<For keeping BTA's in your size tank, I would go with the Sunlight T5
TEK fixture. This unit uses the T5 HO lamps which provide the needed
intensity. I would swap out the two AquaBlue, the two actinic plus, and
one of the pure actinics for 10K lamps. This 324 watt, convection vent
system, will then generate plenty of quality light for your BTA's. Have
you read here?
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemone
s.htm>
Thank you for your time.
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Sabrina
BTA Lighting And Behavior
10/6/09
Hello,
<Hi Beth>
I recently purchased a BTA from LFS and although I made sure that my
water parameters were in order (Alk is a little low), I failed to take
into consideration the lighting requirements of Anemones.
<Yikes, is one of the most important.>
I currently have the BTA housed in a 14g BioCube that has been running
since November of last year.
<Failed to take into consideration tank size also, much too small for
any long term success,>
It was used as a reef tank until a week ago and I am now using the
BioCube as a quarantine tank.
<??? Is the anemone going into a larger system later?>
Water Parameters:
pH 8.0
Ca 360mg/l
Phosphate 0
Nitrate 10mg/l
Alkalinity 2.5mEq/l
Sp. Gravity 1.022
<Would raise this to 1.024/025.>
Lighting is (2) 24wt 10,000k Coralife CF lamps
I removed the actinic bulb and replaced it with a new CF light.
Is this sufficient amount of lighting for the needs of an Anemone for
the next few weeks?
<Borderline, but could work if the BioCube isn't too deep.>
I have two Ocellaris Clowns that are aggravating my Frogspawn so I
decided to buy a BTA for their replacement host. I bought the medium
sized anemone (about 3 inches) 4 days ago and drip acclimated him for
roughly 2 hours. When I place him in the tank he immediately attached
his foot in the rock work. His tentacles became long, thin and
translucent for a few hours before he pulled himself into a more compact
bubble form. I fed the tank with 1/4 tsp. of DT's phytoplankton and
target fed the BTA one mysis which he refused.
<Better to let the anemone adapt before feeding it, three or four days
anyway.>
At this time I noticed two mouths.
The next morning the BTA moved into a hole in the live rock. I can see
part of the BTA in one hole and I can see tentacles about 4 inches away
in another hole. I cannot tell if he has split or if he is sick. I did
place a mysis on some of the tentacles that were hanging out yesterday
and it folded itself back into the hole with his catch. I also squirted
some more DT's into the holes that he or they are hiding in.
Thank you very much for any helpful information.
<Do read here and linked files above to learn more on this animal's
needs for survival.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm>
I have really come to rely on this informative site for all my aquarium
questions. Any other website, forums, LFS or other so called experts are
to be questioned and their answers researched thoroughly before I follow
their advice. Yours is the only website and wonderful people that I can
truly rely on to give me the most honest, informed and educated answers.
Thanks So Much
<You're welcome, and thank you for the kind words. James (Salty Dog)>
Beth
Re BTA Lighting And Behavior 10/7/09
Good afternoon James,
<Good morning Beth, up very early, can't sleep day.>
Thank You for the responses.
<You're welcome.>
I know now that I should have taken the BTA lighting as the foremost
requirement.
<Happens very often. Folks need to research the animal before buying to
ensure they can meet the requirements needed
for survival in a captive environment.>
The BioCube did so well with my coral that I was mistaken in believing
that it would do for a BTA. If it will survive for three weeks than I am
transferring it into an established 20g but only until the 75g set up
has cycled. At which time the 20 gallon will become the quarantine tank.
<Do be sure salinity, temperature, and pH are the same between the "from
and to" tanks.>
I must admit that I am very slow in grasping all the jargon pertaining
to lighting.
<I can help you here, what "jargon" are you not understanding?>
It's not a matter of not reading the information available on this
website, I spend hours reading everything I can, it's understanding what
I read that is the problem. To me, it's sort of like reading a page of
math formulas and being asked to explain what I just read. (Not going to
happen) I'll keep rereading and, hopefully, I will eventually understand
what I read and not just parrot the info.
<I'm sure you will.>
Currently the BTA is still in hiding with one or two tentacles
occasionally waving at me from inside the rock.
<Did you wave back, may be the problem here:))))>
I do believe that it split and, just in case it did, I did a water
change.
The previously stated water parameters reflect that water change. I will
do a small water change today and adjust for a higher sp. gravity.
<OK.>
The BTA does have one tank mate, a Sea Pen, do you believe that they can
co-exist for the required 3 week quarantine without a chemical warfare?
<The Sea Pen will be at risk from stinging once the anemone(s)
relocates.>
This is my only tank with sand, the others have rubble which is not
suitable for a sea pen.
<A small Tupperware container filled with sand would work as a temporary
measure. I'd separate the Sea Pen from the anemone.>
Last question. How long should I wait for the BTA to emerge before I
become concerned about its health?
<I would carefully relocate the rock/rubble the anemone is not attached
to.
Will provide a better view for observation. Try feeding the anemone in
about three days. If it's healthy, the food should find it's way to the
mouth, will be a good sign. If the BTA is not inflated, do not attempt
feeding, won't take it anyway.
Sending us a photo in a few days would help us much in determining the
health of the BTA. Is the 75 gallon system going to be the anemone's
home?
If so, and this appears to me as a new set-up, I wouldn't advise putting
the BTA in there, will further stress the animal out as they prefer
established systems, 6 months+.
Looks like you're in between a rock and a hard spot, Beth. I'm thinking
you would fair much better if you could take the anemone back, see if
you can get
store credit. Once your 75 is established and you have proper lighting
for keeping a BTA, then go shopping.>
Thank You so Much,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Beth
Condylactis Anemone/Anemone Systems 9/15/09
hi
<Hello Shayne>
I have a question I have a 30 gallon aquarium with a single t5 light on
it 39 watts I think and a 24'' Actinic bulb from zoo med. I have a Condy
anemone doing good in there right now I wanted to switch it out for a
BTA do you think it would work?
<Your present lighting is not intense enough to keep a Condy or a BTA
alive for any length of time. Anemones are photosynthetic animals and
most require the same light requirements as corals. Do read here.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm>
thanks in advance
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Anemone lighting 8/23/09
Hi everybody,
I've got a quick question, I'm starting a 55 gallon salt tank and I
wanted to know if MH or 4 t5 bulbs ( in a light fixture) would be better
for a bubble tip anemone. I only ask because I keep getting conflicting
info.
<Either could work, though I would opt for a 6-8 bulb fixture going with
T5s if a BTA is what you are set on keeping.>
If I go t5 what should the bulb ratio be? (white to blue)
<Personally I like three 10000K bulbs to one actinic. Some run 2 to 1
for a bluer look.>
thanks
Aaron
<Welcome, Scott V.>
Lighting for Anemone 8/6/09
Hello,
Sure like this place as you all have been a great help.
<Hello Jeff, thank you.>
I am working on a new 120 gal reef aquarium (48x24x24). I would very
much like to keep an Entacmaea quadricolor (bubble tip) or Stichodactyla
haddoni (green carpet). I know there are a lot of factors that go into
keeping these wonderful animals healthy. I was planning on the following
lighting system: (2) XM 250 watt metal halide 10000K SE bulbs with an
Icecap 250W electronic ballast.
<My personal fave. MH bulb.>
According to Sanjay Joshi each of these bulbs will produce 115 PPFD and
11543 CCT with Icecap ballast. I also plan on putting each bulb within a
Lumenarc III Mini Reflector. Do you think this would take care of the
lighting needs for either of these anemones?
<Oh yes.>
I like both of these anemones. I have to say the green carpet is my
favorite but will not attempt to keep if my lighting is not adequate.
<Your lighting will be fine, but I would still stick to the BTA. It is a
far better choice for many a reason. See:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
and the linked files above.>
Thanks for the help.
Jeff
<Welcome, Scott V.>
Re: lighting for anemone 8/15/09
Thanks Scott for the help.
<Welcome, sorry for the extremely slow reply here.>
Will follow your advice and go with the BTA. It is not my favorite, like
the green carpet best, but the BTA is still a very nice anemone.
<And a far better choice.>
I do have a question about my lighting. I will not be using a chiller
(wife veto) but will be using six 120mm Syth-S-Flex SFF21D cooling fans.
The air movement from each fan is 33.5CFM with a noise level of only 8.7
dBa per
fan.
<Wow, quiet for the air moved.>
Two of these fans will be placed on the left side of the canopy blowing
air across the reflector. Two more fans will be in the middle of the
canopy blowing air in the same direction. The final two fans will be in
the line with the other fans on the right side of the canopy blowing air
out of the tank. I am thinking the noise level should be low and with
six fans the air movement should be enough to keep everything cool. This
is my hope.
Do you agree?
<I think it is as good a shot as you can have with fans.>
Also with using the six fans, and (2) 250 watt MH bulbs within the
LumenArc III Mini reflector, how many inches above the water should the
bulbs be?
<You can raise these quite a bit and have a good spread. I would aim for
9-12" above the water myself. This too will aid in keeping the water
cooler.>
Want to be close enough to get the max out of the bulbs but high enough
not to make everything too hot.
Thanks so much for the great help.
Jeff
<Welcome, Scott V.>
Re: lighting for anemone
8/17/09
Thanks again Scott,
<Happy to assist.>
I have been doing some research on the Lumenmax Elite. They are about
the same size as the LumenArc III Mini but seem to do a better job. Do
you know about these reflectors?
<Yes, have recently seen a few in action, nice reflectors.>
My tank will be 24 inches high and 24 inches tall. Can I raise them even
higher than the Mini as the light reaches a deeper depth with the
Elites? If so how much higher?
<You could in theory, but the 9-12" mentioned before will be plenty high
enough to keep heat transfer to a minimum.>
Thanks again,
Jeff
<Welcome, Scott V.>
T5 Lighting For Haddoni Anemones 2/25/09 Hi, <Hello
Brian> I am due to replace the light fixture on my 6 x 2 x 1.5 high
100 gallonish tank. I mainly have Zoanthids and three haddoni carpets
a red, blue and purple. I am replacing a 2 x 250w halide Arcadia
Series 3 pendant. I am tossing up between a 3 x 150w halide Arcadia
Series 4 and a 6 x 80w T5 ATI power module. With the deep sand bed
the tank is only 12'" or 13" deep, will the T5 fitting be sufficient for
the anemones? I have had them for about four years now and don't
want to jeopardize their health. <Brian, if you have kept them
(Stichodactyla haddoni) that long, consider yourself a very lucky man as
they are one of the most difficult anemones to keep. I would not change
the lighting. If the lamps need replacing, replace with the same
Kelvin temperature you are using now. The T5's are not going to be
enough light for these anemones. If you need to replace the 2x250
pendant because it is defective, then go with no less than the 3x150
fixture. I would make sure that the Kelvin temperature of the new lamps
are the same as the 250 watt lamps. Any change in Kelvin temperature
at this stage may cause some negative impact on the photosynthesis
process of the anemones.> Looking forward to your reply,
<Cheers. James (Salty Dog)> Brian.
Re: T5 Lighting For Haddoni Anemones 2/25/09 Thanks for the
reply, James. <You're welcome> I will go with the 3 x 150 as the
other fitting is defective. We do get lucky here in Australia as the
anemones spend little time in transit after being collected if you deal
with the collectors. <Ah, makes all the difference in the world as
they do ship poorly.> Our only problem is that the really colourful
specimens are rarely available. <Geez, I'd just be glad to keep them
that long.> Thanks again, <You're welcome, Brian> Brian.
Recommendations for anemone lighting – 07/10/08 Hello, I
really want to build a reef tank. It will be a few years from now when I
finally get around to starting it, but I like to plan out everything
slowly. <Wow! Laudable> I have decided I want a 180 gal. Reef tank
that is nicely stocked with live rock, 5-6in. of live sand and oolite
sand because some of the fish and invertebrates I have chosen need a
deep sand bed to burrow in. <Depends on species... but useful in many
other ways> I will probably have a wet/dry filter (haven't truly
decided on what type of filter I want, but I'm leaning toward wet/dry),
chiller, protein skimmer, UV sterilizer, and everything else that I may
need for my reef set up. I plan on putting a variety of corals and an
anemone or two in the tank. From reading up on anemones you can only
have the same species in a tank so I guess even with the 180 gal. I
could only have one type of species or could I possible have two
different types? <Can be mixed... with time, effort... posted> The
only species I am truly interested in is the Bubble Tip Anemone and my
question is about lighting. I know they need bright light and I am
looking at light fixtures. The fixture I am thinking of buying is
Giesemann 3x 250W HQI + 4x 80W T5 lights. So that's about 6 watts per
gallon. Will the anemone thrive with this lighting? <Mmm, in this
size, depth system... can> I want it to thrive and not just barely
making it by. If this won't work, what type of fixture should I look
into? <This wattage, number of metal halides is about ideal... the
manufacturer a paragon of excellence> I really like Giesemann
Moonlight Infiniti fixture as it has lunar lights and moon cycles, etc.
etc. Thanks in advance for any information you can give me. <Please
read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/CnidIndex2.htm the areas on Anemone
Systems, Lighting, Entacmaea... Bob Fenner> Is
there enough lighting? Lighting Recommendations for Anemones –
6/14/08 Hi, <Hello John, Brenda here! > First let me say
that your site has been extremely helpful and I have learned quite a bit
from reading other posts. <Great! > As for now, I am a little
confused about lighting. I recently changed my tank to a 40 gallon
breeder 36x18x18 from a 36 gallon bow 30x15x24. I took my Power compact
light and combined it with another giving me 4 x 65watts of light for
the 40 gallon breeder tank. My question is; is this enough to keep
anemones, such as bubble tips, carpet and Sebae? <You could get away
with keeping an E. quadricolor (bubble tip), but you may find that you
have to increase feedings to satisfy this anemone. I do not recommend
keeping any other species of anemones under power compact lighting.>
Should I go with more lighting? <More lighting would be my choice. I
consider power compact lighting to be borderline in this case and can be
the difference between surviving and thriving. > Maybe do 6x39w T5 or
am I just wasting money by upgrading? <The 6 X 39W T5, with
individual reflectors, would be a nice upgrade. > I would like to
keep some anemones, I have a Sebae now and it is doing fine, but I would
also like to try out some LPS and SPS hard corals and some sea fans.
<A 40g tank is much too small for mixing species of anemones. I do not
recommend mixing species unless you have a system of a few hundred
gallons or more. I also do not recommend keeping a carpet anemone in a
40g. > From what I can see they take quite a bit of light. Between
T5, power compacts and metal halide it is all just too confusing and the
more I read from your site the more confused I am getting. At one point
I was convinced I should go Metal Halide and now I am not so sure. <I
am a huge fan of T-5 lighting. I have kept anemones under T-5, PC, and
Metal Halide. With the T-5 you do not have the heat issues that come
with the metal halide. You also have a longer bulb life. If you decide
to go with the T-5, be sure to select one with individual reflectors.
Without the individual reflectors, the T-5 lighting is comparable to
power compact lighting. If you go with metal halide, I would go with two
175 watt bulbs. With the lighting I have recommended, you will be able
to keep LPS, SPS and sea fans.> Any advice would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks, John <You’re welcome! I hope this helps!
Brenda > Re: Is there enough lighting? Lighting
Recommendations for Anemones – 6/14/08 Brenda, Thank you for
all the information. I will go with the T5 set up and stick with the 1
anemone that I currently have, without adding anymore. Thanks again for
all your help. John <You’re welcome! Brenda >
Anemone bleaching New Bulbs Shocking the
Anemone, Clownfish Fighting – 6/4/08 Hi WWM <Hello Joe, Brenda
here!> I love this site it is so helpful every time I come across a
problem. <That is good to hear, thank you! > I have a reef tank
that is about 3-4 years old. I was neglecting it to an extent this past
year and it has the same power compact bulbs in there for 2 years!
<Yikes! These should be changed out about every 9 months. > I have a
couple corals, flame angel, six-line wrasse, sand sifter goby, and a
BTA. The BTA was doing fine under the lighting I had, it was brown in
color and was looking healthy. I just replaced the lights (thank god)
and added 2 false Percs. They are hanging out near the anemone and for
the first week they were fine. Now they will not stop fighting, locking
jaws and spinning around. Constantly they are battling and this has been
going on for about a week. <You may have two females. If so they will
fight to the death of one or both of them. > I have also noticed my
anemone is now starting to turn whiter towards the top of it. Could this
be from replacing the lights? <Yes. > Should I only have them on
half of the normal cycle? <I recommend putting some window screen
over the tank for a week or so to get the anemone used to the light.
What size tank is this on, and how many watts of PC do you have? How
much is day light and how much is actinic? > What can I do about the
clownfish fighting? <If they are both females you can’t do anything
except remove one. How big are these clownfish? It is not uncommon for
newly introduced clownfish to fight. However, you will have to be the
judge and decide if they need to be separated or if they are possibly
working things out. > Thanks Joe <You’re welcome! Brenda>
My quadricolor -Glowing E. Quadricolor, BTA,
Lighting Change – 5/21/08 Hi Gang, <Hello, Brenda
here! > I have had my E. quadricolor for over two years and he
has even been host to my clownfish. <Great! > When I first
acquired him he was small and eventually grew. At the time I had a
55 gallon tank and power compact lighting. At that time my E.
quadricolor looked like most I see in captivity. He had a
brown/orangey color to him with some dark green and pink tips though
you had to look hard on the tip of the tentacle to see the pink.
Anyway, I had decided on upgrading my light and tank several months
ago and my wattage went up substantially. I now have 2-250watt MH
and 2-96watt actinics. Ever since the upgrade my anemone began
changing colors. <It sounds like your previous lighting was
borderline and your anemone is now thriving. > His green began to
get more of a lime tone to it very bright. The orange is still
there but mostly on his base and disc. When the lights go out this
anemone GLOWS!! Is this normal?? <This is the lighting that is
causing this. > I sent a picture of what he looks like now and
how he glows when the lights are off with just the lunar lights. Can
he be getting too much light? <It is possible, however, if
the anemone is not roaming, and appears healthy, I would leave
things alone. > Is that even possible for this anemone? <Yes,
it is possible, but I do not believe this is the case. > He still
eats, never moved since I placed him in that rock the first day, and
is still sticky. <Perfect! > He still basically my same old
BTA but just a glowing version that looks really cool but has me
worried that he may not be happy. <No need to worry! It sounds
like you have a happy, healthy anemone! > Thanks in advance.
<You’re welcome! Brenda > | |
New Anemone Hiding in Low Light Area – 05/16/08 Hi Guys!
<Hello Frank, Brenda here!> You've been so helpful in the past with
equipment/tank questions I figured you were the natural choice when it
came to livestock questions too. <Thank you for the positive
feedback! > I usually do a TON of research on anything before I buy
it and so I've been waiting for a LONG time for my tank to settle before
I finally bought the anemone that I want (a beautiful greenish bulb-tip
anemone). <An excellent choice! > It came via FedEx yesterday (I'm
a fan of Live Aquaria for good livestock since the stores in my area
charge outrageous prices and aren't that great to begin with), and went
into my tank at night after the lights were down. I thought I had a good
place for it at first and the current blew it all over the map so it
didn't attach there and so I picked up the little aquatic tumbleweed and
tried another spot I liked (and thought it would too). That time, it
stuck. Seemed to have a good hold and opened up and also started moving
a bit (deeper into a sort of depression in the rock). <This is not
unusual. > After watching for a bit and thinking all was well, I
finally went to bed. When I woke up... he was nowhere to be found (a
mild panic moment set in at that point). Looking a little more
carefully, I found he'd attached himself within the rockwork in the back
a fair distance from where I left him last night and where the current
would blow him if he lost his grip. <He’s searching for a suitable
place to call home. This is normal. Make sure you have all of your
intakes protected, or your anemone will become shredded if it should
lose its grip. > I've got a pretty open system, not a rock wall.
Firmly wedged into a rock crevice, as I know these guys like, I could
obviously NOT detach him without doing serious damage so decided to let
him find his own way to the light (luckily for me, there's not much
light in the back of the tank). <The anemone having a firm grip is an
excellent sign. > He's opened himself up pointing towards the back
wall and, even though there isn't a whole lot of light there, he hasn't
moved. His foot sticks partway out to the front of the tank, but the big
beautiful tentacles are all, sadly for me, pointed backwards and fully
open. <Unfortunately this anemone does not realize that you want him
to be the center of attention. > I know they move around a lot, but
I'm concerned that he may stay facing that way and die a slow death of
light deficiency (perhaps a bit of over dramatic since it's only been a
day, but hey, I like him). <If water parameters are up to par, this
anemone will be fine. Give him a few weeks to find his way. He is
stressed from shipment, and needs to be left alone. Only handle this
anemone if it detaches and is being taken for a ride in the current. >
How long should I wait and see if he moves before I start to try other
measures and, if I do have to, which ones would you use? <I don’t
recommend moving the anemone unless it is in an immediate physical
danger. > I've heard that pointing a small power head directly at the
foot can encourage an anemone to move, especially this type. Thoughts?
<This will cause more stress, on an already stressed anemone. Shipping
is extremely harsh on these creatures. This anemone needs to finish
acclimating to its new environment. This may take a few weeks. > Will
obviously wait, but just want to be ready when/if it happens. Thanks so
much for all your help in the past and hope to hear from you soon!
<You’re welcome!> Frank PS For reference, 75 gallon reef, Outer
Orbit HQI T5HO, established for about 4 years in one form or another
(dramatic rescue operation about a 6 months ago when 50 gallon sprang a
leak, but all same water, rocks, etc). <Brenda>
RE: New Anemone Hiding in Low Light Area – 05/16/08 Thanks
Brenda! <Hello Frank! > Will give it a few weeks to see what it
does/where it goes. <Good! > I did decide to use a little trickery
on it, though. It's way down low in the tank so I simply used a loose
piece of live rock to cover up the hole in the rockwork from which it's
getting direct light. Still getting diffuse, but figured that might help
it a) avoid light shock from the T5HOs and b) encourage it to seek out
more light when it's ready. <It may, but I would just let it work
through the acclimation process by itself. > One question on feeding,
I have been told that this is a species, which requires additional
feeding 2-3 times a week. <Typically, yes. > I know the dangers of
overfeeding anemones, but the illustrious Bob Fenner was clear that this
one needed it. <If the anemone is healthy, I would try to feed it 2 –
3 times a week. Feed small portions, smaller than the anemones mouth. In
heavily feed tanks, anemones do not need to be fed as often. > I'm
wondering how soon to start feeding (i.e. while it's still in hiding?)
and whether this is in addition to the frozen food I add to the tank
daily which includes some of the dietary requirements of the anemone.
<You can try feeding tiny pieces now. Target feeding something like
Mysis shrimp, may be the easiest using a turkey baster or syringe. >
Thanks for all your help and I'll let you know how it goes! Frank
<You’re welcome, and I’m looking forward to updates. Brenda>
Is my set up ok, reef... op. 04/28/2008 Hi, <<Hello,
Andrew today>> I am just starting off with a reef aquarium and
need advice. I will apologize ahead of time for the multitude of
questions I have but I am being told differing things from my
local aquariums. Okay, my set-up -4ft (200L) tank running a 600L/hr
filter, 24volt UV stabiliser (450L/hr) 1700L/hr power attached to an
inside protein skimmer, double T5 light (1 white globe and 1 actinic
globe) and of course a heater. I currently have a Heliofungia,
<Heliofungia don't generally live in captivity... Read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/fungiidselfaqs.htm and the
linked files above. RMF> a bubble
coral, some other coral that looks like purple flowers with bright
green centres, a bubble tip anemone, 2 clown fish, a mandarin, a
starfish, a bit of live rock and a blue stripe goby. Everything is
looking good and appears to be healthy and happy. <<How long has
this tank been running for? I would like to hope over a year after
reading your inhabitants>> So now for my issues - one of the
local aquariums shops said I need at least a 2000L/hr filter and
3000L/hr wave maker on top of what I have. The other shop said to
see how I go with my current filter but put in a 5000L/hr wave
maker. As I have said I am new to this but currently my tank is
cycling 2750L/hr and I am being told I need to increase this to
9150L/hr by adding in the other things. Like I said I am new to this
but that seems excessive for a 200L tank. I really do want to do the
best thing for my tank but I want honest advice. <<Flow wise, in
a reef aquarium, its best to aim in the region of around 25 x water
volume circulated per hour via powerheads. So, in this situation,
you would want to be aiming for about 2175 "gallons" per hour. This
can be achieved by adding some good flow powerheads like Hydor
Koralia types that provide a good flow, however, its a dispersed
flow>> Secondly I was told that corals love strong current so I
had them positioned in direct line with the powerhead current
(before I added the skimmer), when I attached the skimmer to the
powerhead the current was considerably cut yet my corals seems to
rather the lighter current especially my Heliofungia which has been
"blown Up" (for want of better words) since the decreased current
(not continually, it does go down overnight with the light off) and
the bubble and the purple flower one seem to be the same as when the
strong current was happening. <<Ahhhh. Heliofungia is one of
them which is common to inflate itself. Most actually think this to
be an anemone, however, it is not, its a stony coral. The inflation
is used to allow the coral to move in the tank, keep stability,
buoyancy on soft substrate. Its inflation is not something to be
overly concerned about unless its inflated 24/7>> <<With regards
to corals and flow, all corals have their own specific needs. Some
like high / fast flow, some prefer slow gentle flow. What we, as
owners have to do, is research each coral, ensure we can accommodate
its needs and provide the correct environment. So, the statement of
" Corals love strong current " is only partly correct>> One thing
no-one seems to be able to answer is the fact that my bubble tip
anemone closes up when I have the light on but opens (not to its
full extent) when the light is off but it use to open up really well
when I only had a single T8 light. <<It could well be just
adapting to the change in lighting. Most times, a light change
involves acclimatizing the tank to the new level of lighting by
slightly diffusing the light and gradually build up the intensity
into the tank>> As I said I really want to do the right thing in
regard to my tank so PLEASE I need honest, reliable and good advice.
I have attached a pic of my Heliofungia with the decreased
current (pic 1) and the strong current (pic 2)(all the orange, green
and white coral/plant is just a backdrop) <<Yes, took me a moment
to separate reality from backdrop, very confusing on the eye>>
Cheers, Lozza <<Hope the above helps Lozza, good day. A Nixon>>
Anemone Lighting/Overall System 4/28/09 Hi, I am just
starting off with a reef aquarium and need advice. <Hello Lozza,
ok.> I will apologize ahead of time for the multitude of
questions I have but I am being told differing things from my local
aquarium stores. <Understood.> Okay, my set-up -4ft (200L)
tank running a 600L/hr filter, 24volt UV sterilizer (450L/hr)
1700L/hr powerhead attached to an inside protein skimmer, double T5
light (1 white globe and 1 actinic globe) and of course a heater. I
currently have a Heliofungia, a bubble coral, some other coral that
looks like purple flowers with bright green centres, a bubble tip
anemone, 2 clown fish, a mandarin, a starfish, a bit of live rock
and a blue stripe goby. <Mixing anemones with corals usually ends
up in trouble. Also, your lighting is nowhere near sufficient. Your
tank is also much too small to sustain the Mandarin. A larger system
with plenty live rock and ideally a fishless refugium are required.>
Everything is looking good and appears to be healthy and happy. So
now for my issues - one of the local aquariums shops said I need at
least a 2000L/hr filter and 3000L/hr wave maker on top of what I
have. <This gives you 25 X turnover an hour, a bit high for a
non SPS system.> The other shop said to see how I go with my
current filter but put in a 5000L/hr wave maker. As I have said I am
new to this but currently my tank is cycling 2750L/hr and I am being
told I need to increase this to 9150L/hr by adding in the other
things. <9150 LPH is much more than you need. Something in the
range of 3000 total should suffice. What is your current filter? How
much live rock?> Like I said I am new to this but that seems
excessive for a 200L tank. <Yes, it is.> I really do want to
do the best thing for my tank but I want honest advice. Secondly I
was told that corals love strong current so I had them positioned in
direct line with the powerhead current (before I added the skimmer),
<Hmm, you do not want to do this, too much of a laminar flow. The
flow needs to be indirect and random, usually accomplished by
directing flows at one another.> when I attached the skimmer to
the powerhead the current was considerably cut yet my corals seems
to rather the lighter current especially my Heliofungia which has
been "blown Up" (for want of better words) since the decreased
current (not continually, it does go down overnight with the light
off) and the bubble and the purple flower one seem to be the same as
when the strong current was happening. <Likely due more from the
total environment than just the flow.> One thing no-one seems to
be able to answer is the fact that my bubble tip anemone closes up
when I have the light on but opens (not to its full extent) when the
light is off but it use to open up really well when I only had a
single T8 light. <It is likely declining due to lack of light and
the total environment it is in. You need more lighting (at least 5-6
times what you have) and ideally more live rock from the looks of
the pictures. Theses anemones basically require a full reef type
setting in a mature, stable tank.> As I said I really want to do
the right thing in regard to my tank so PLEASE I need honest,
reliable and good advice. I have attached a pic of my Heliofungia
with the decreased current (pic 1) and the strong current (pic 2).
<Honestly not much of a notable difference from the pictures. This
too will need more lighting, in addition to your other corals.>
(all the orange, green and white coral/plant is just a backdrop)
<A nice background it is! It makes the tank look very full of life.>
Cheers, Lozza <A few links are included for you to study and
follow below. Good luck, Scott V.>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/circmarart.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemcompfaqs.htm |
Whamma jammed jah! RMF
|
Light Panels, canopy... design 4/26/08 Dear WWM crew,
<Hello there Lindsay.> I am in the process of getting materials
for my first aquarium. I have a 55 gallon SeaClear tank
(48"x13"x21"). I plan to eventually have a fish/invert system plus
live rock (corals are probably too far out of my league). Although I
plan to get started with fish-only and slowly work my way towards
inverts, I've been selecting equipment for the final stages.
<Smart, plan ahead and spend less time and money.> One particular
question I had is regarding lighting and a tank cover. I purchased a
Hagen GLO T5 HO 48" with 2, 18K lights. My particular goal is to get
an anemone with clownfish. <This will not be nearly enough light.
You will need at the least 3-4 times this, preferably in the 10,000
Kelvin range.> However, I don't know what type of cover I can
have with this light. My tank doesn't have a canopy, so there are
several openings I need to cover. At the same time I don't want to
use a cover that's going to block out the light and not be enough
strength for inverts. <This can be a dilemma, balancing the
benefits of each option.> I looked at egg crate panels and only
see 1/2"x1/2" grid-type. I would like to get a Jawfish at some point
and maybe Firefish, and I know they're notorious jumpers. I fear
that a Jawfish would get past this no problem. <Not to say it
can’t happen, but it is very unlikely.> I also saw styrene
prismatic panels which are also made for in-ceiling fluorescent
fixtures. This has raised edging but no holes to jump through. Is
this suitable for my set-up or will this block the lighting too
much? <These do tend to diffuse much of the light, I would not
use them for a potential reef.> Am I better off with the egg
crate panel? <Yes.> If so, will jumping be a concern?
<Very little of a concern. If all is aligned just right, the planets
and such, the fish could wiggle through, but it is rare.> Any
other ideas? <A solid piece of glass or acrylic would work,
although this does diffuse and scatter some of the light also. The
other nice thing to keep in mind about an open cover such as the
eggcrate is the evaporative cooling effect it allows. This can make
the difference between investing/running a chiller and not.> By
the way, loved The Conscientious Marine Aquarist. <I do too!
This will be passed along to Bob.><<Ahh! Thank you. The new, 2d. ed.
is soon to be out... Is a beauty, enlarged, updated a great deal
(needed it for sure!), but a bunch more money... only in hardbound
for another year or two. RMF>> Sincerely, Lindsay <Have
fun, congratulations on the new tank! Scott V.>
Re: Light Panels/Anemone Lighting 4/27/08 Thanks for the
feedback! <Very welcome.> Would 1 bulb at 6700K and 1 actinic
bulb be more appropriate, or otherwise, what would you recommend for
an anemone? <The 10000K bulbs are fine, will look better
aesthetically than the 6500’s. You will need at least 6 or so of
these daylight bulbs to keep an anemone happy in this tank. Even
then this is hoping the anemone is content in the upper half of the
tank. They are very light hungry creatures, a two bulb T5 will not
cut it. For more info on anemone lighting check out the link and
related FAQ’s. Regards, Scott V.>
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm |
Anemone Lighting, poor lvstk. mix... poor response, referrals lacking
3/12/08 Hello, <Hi Matt> I just purchased a 150g reef ready
tank that is 30 inches deep. I am confused as to which lights I need. My
tank will be FOWLR and anemones and hopefully an eel. <Not a good
idea to mix fish that are not compatible with anemones, you more than
likely may lose a few.> <<... refer them to where...>> I really
think I need the glass canopy on the tank because of evaporation and the
eel. <And to protect the light fixture and reduce UV, especially with
HQI lamps.> Will the new T5's work?
https://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/prod/239340/product.web ) or will I
have to go with some sort of metal halide because the tank is so deep.
If I do have to go with metal halides, can I still use a glass canopy.
Maybe you all have a better suggestion or idea that I'm not thinking of?
Please help me. <To keep anemones in that deep of a tank, metal
halides or HQI would be the way I'd go. Read here and linked files
above.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm>
Thank you, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Matt
BTA lighting needs 03/09/2008 Hi guys (you rock!) <<Hello,
Andrew here....Hmmm...Do we "live" rock? .....he he he>> I turned my
old 14g BioCube into a qt tank for my 75g, and I got a green BTA the
other day, it's about 2", very small, and I stuck him in there for the
time being, is there enough light in there to sustain him for a while?
it has a 24w 10000k daylight, and 24w true actinic...he found a nice
spot on a piece of rock about 5" from the surface and seems to be happy
there. when the time comes to move him to the big tank, I'm just going
to move the entire rock he's on...so is there enough light in there to
sustain him? <<As long as it seems happy in there, I would not worry
too much. I would agree that when you move this, take the rock and all
to the other tank. A word on quarantine tanks here for future. Its
always best not to use live rock in the quarantine tank...Reason for
this is because its an idea place to harbour parasites and for them to
move from one inhabitant to the next. The best thing to use is pieces of
PVC pipe, like house drain pipe parts and a bare bottom to the tank.
This way, there is nowhere for anything to attach too>> Thanks, Rob
<<Thanks for the questions, hope this helps. A Nixon>>
Sebae Anemone, Lack of Lighting – 3/5/08 Hi Crew, <Hi Ashley,
Brenda here!> I recently purchased a small Sebae anemone for my 55
gallon tank. In this tank I have 2 false Percula clownfish, 2 Peppermint
shrimp, 2 Scooter blennies, and a number of snails and hermit crabs.
<Crabs can become predators to anemones.> I have 2 Emperor filters
going and a 40 watt 48" light and a 65 watt 24" light. <I strongly
recommend a protein skimmer in place of the Emperor filters, especially
when keeping anemones.> The worker of the fish store said this should
be enough lighting for the anemone. <This is not even close to being
enough lighting for this anemone.> The clownfish are still very timid
and have only explored it a bit and nothing else in the tank gets near
it. The levels are as follows: specific gravity - 1.024, <Needs to be
1.026> pH - 8.2, ammonia and nitrite - 0, KH - around 7, nitrate -
20ppm, <Nitrates need to be zero.> and temp is generally around 80
degrees. It has only been a couple of days and for the most part it
seems fine but a bunch of its tentacles shrink sometimes during the day,
although at night when the lights are off it seems to extend more fully.
It's nestled in the sand but I'm not sure if it's fully rooted. It is
the occasions when the tentacles get small that worry me. Is this normal
behavior or does it need more lighting (is yes, how much). <Anemones
do occasionally shrink to exchange water and to expel waste. However,
this animal does need a lot more lighting. I recommend two 175 watt
(minimum) metal halide or as many 54 watt T-5 bulbs (with individual
reflectors) that you can get over the tank.> Thanks, Ashley
Is My Normal Output Fluorescent Lighting Suitable for Anemone and
Corals? (The Short Answer Is…No) – 02/12/08 Hello, <<Hiya,
Joan!>> I read and then reread your article on lighting.
<<And?...>> I have used Vita-Lites for many many years and thought
they would be fine for my introduction of inverts, an anemone to start
with, and maybe a coral or two. <<Mmm, you will need to be more
specific than “a coral or two”…and some specifics about your tank would
be a big help too...oh, and do read up on our site re anemone
systems/mixing with sessile inverts (not recommended). As for the
Vita-Lites…these are a great “daylight” spectrum fluorescent bulb, but
being a NO (Normal Output) bulb you need a fair number of them over the
tank, with actual “numbers” depending on the light-requirements of the
organisms you plan to keep. And while it is possible to keep some coral
species under NO fluorescent lighting (I did so back in the
late-eighties and early-nineties), I don’t recommend this for keeping
Anemones>> The Fish Store says No, I need MORE. <<Without more
information/detail re your system and its proposed inhabitants, I must
agree…and I certainly do where the Anemone is concerned>> I.e. 10K
etc and recommend the Coralife compacts. <<You don’t “need” 10K
bulbs; these are usually suggested because they provide a “balance”
between what is suitable for/useable to the photosynthetic organisms and
what is pleasing to the human eye. In fact, if you like or prefer a
lower Kelvin temperature (e.g. – 5500K – 6500K), these will generally
provide a better output/PAR rating watt-for-watt than the higher Kelvin
temperature bulbs. A mix of 10K and 6.5K bulbs provides far more
intensity, as well as light in the more “useful” wavelengths, than a mix
of 10K and Actinic bulbs>> I am sure they are great, but do I really
need that much light? <<The answer here likely is, yes…I am doubtful
your NO fluorescent bulbs will support an anemone>> Especially when a
retrofit is $200+ on sale. <<Unfortunately, the price of lighting
suitable for keeping many/most of the reef-associated photosynthetic
organisms often proves to be as much as one-third the cost of the entire
reef system. If you do decide to upgrade, I would like to recommend T5
fluorescent lighting over the PC fluorescent lighting. Not that the PCs
can’t work, but the T5 is better technology in my opinion, and has
greater bulb selection/allows more flexibility over the PCs. The smaller
size of the T5s will also allow more bulbs to be fitted/placed over any
given tank size>> Please drop me a short note with your ideas.
<<You have my thoughts…do write me back if you wish to discuss further>>
Joan in Seattle <<Regards, EricR in Columbia>>
Adequate lighting for an anemone
Red Sea Max (34 gallons), Enough lighting for an Anemone? - 1/31/08
Hello <Hello Art, Brenda here> After 40 years of maintaining
freshwater aquariums I finally took the "plunge" and decided to try
saltwater. The impetus behind this decision was the introduction of
the "plug and play" self-contained Red Sea Max. I have had this unit
for three weeks and am quite pleased with it, so far. In an effort
to get up to speed, I read Fenner's book and found it superb. I have
also been on your site many times and found it to be both
enjoyable and quite instructive. <Good to hear!> Yes my RSM
tank (34 gals, including a 5 gal filtration area) currently has 40
lbs. of live rock and 80 lbs. (4 inches) of substrate. The unit has
2 55watt T5 power compacts including 10k actinic lighting (4 watts
per gallon). Like many others, I have always been intrigued by the
symbiotic relationship between clown fish and anemones and would
want to include an anemone in the tank, sometime in the near future.
Everything I read "seems" to suggest or at least is not clear to me,
that this lighting is not adequate for an anemone. The Red Sea
literature suggests otherwise. Therefore, I decided to ask the
experts directly. Is this lighting adequate for an anemone (E.
quadricolor perhaps)? Thank you. Keep up the great work. Art
<This lighting is at best border line. The watt per gallon rule is
not a good rule of thumb to go by. This tank is nearly 20” deep. An
anemone would have to remain high in the tank, and may need extra
feedings to supplement the lack of lighting. Also this T-5 lighting
does not have individual reflectors. Without individual reflectors,
this lighting is comparable to PC. I personally would not keep an
anemone in this tank. Your tank also needs to be an established
environment before adding an anemone. This takes 6 months to a year.
Brenda>
Re: Red Sea Max (34 gallons), Enough lighting for an Anemone? -
1/31/08 Hi Brenda, <Good morning Art!> Thank you for
your immediate response. <You are quite welcome!> You
confirmed what I feared was the case. Do you folks have an opinion
as to this product (considering its small size) providing a viable
environment for a mini reef? Assuming, of course, that one chooses
the appropriate corals and invertebrates and maintains a light fish
load. <I do not have any personal experience with this product.
However, looking at the specs I would say it is an average, possibly
above average, all in one system. My main concern would be as to how
well the skimmer produces. I do suggest keeping easier corals. Soft
corals will do fine here. Mushrooms, Leather corals, Palys, Xenia,
Kenya Tree, and Anthelia, to name a few will work here and still
give you a beautiful display. These soft corals have also been known
to be a substitute host for clownfish. So you may still be able to
get your symbiotic relationship that you were hoping for.> I must
say that the "crew" is terrific and you all make this hobby so much
more enjoyable and understandable. <Thank you! It is always nice
to hear positive feedback!> I will make every effort to support
the site. <Great!> Thanks again. Art <You’re welcome and
good luck to you! Brenda> |
Need Lighting Help 01/23/2008 Hello, <<Hello, Andrew here>>
I have had a 55 gallon FOWLR tank for over 10 yrs now and want to
upgrade my lighting system. I have nothing fancy right now, but was
thinking of switching to T5's. I have always wanted an anemone and know
they would probably prefer MH's, but I just can't afford them. <<even
though MH are the best lighting you can provide, T5 with individual
reflectors and good wattage can suffice (depending on what anemone you
want to house), all be it, not the best route>> I could really use
your help on what direction to look at for a new system, number of
bulbs, wattage, etc. Thanks for your help! <<<Simplest answer is get
the best you can buy for your budget. You will want a good spread of
tubes, preferably full length and full front to back to give great
lighting coverage through-out the aquarium. Aim in the region of 250w or
more preferably. You will also want to aim to keep a nem high up in the
aquarium, say top 9 - 10 inches of the tank>> Tiffany <<Thanks for
the questions, A Nixon>>
Sick Sebae Anemone, Not enough lighting. – 12/2/07 Dear Crew,
<Hello Sami, Brenda here> I read a lot of your answers regarding
anemones and the Sebae anemone in particular, but still have 2 questions
regarding my Sebae that I got 2 days ago. It would be great if you could
comment. The first is whether or not I can touch the anemone and turn it
around (it has been upside down since noon today). I read somewhere that
this was a very bad position, as its tentacles cannot breathe this way.
But I also read that one should leave the anemone alone as much as
possible. So, should I turn it around (if so, with my hands and
gloves??). By the way, it is white (and I know I have to get it brown
and healthy now). I fed it mysis shrimp which were sticking on its
tentacles and it did eat. I intend to get Selcon also. <It sounds
like you have a very sick anemone. How was it acclimated? You can try
turning it over, but it is likely it will just turn it self over again.
I would definitely wear gloves.> The second question concerns my
lights: I have a 40 gallon breeder tank, so it's not too deep (< 18"). I
have the Coralife Lunar Aqualights (2x96 watts I think). I have the
white ones on from 12:00 to 6pm and the actinic on from 7AM to 8PM, the
lunar lights from 8PM to 7AM. Is this ok? <2x96 watts of PC lighting
is not enough for this creature.> FYI, I have 70lbs LR, a wet-dry
trickle filter, an Aqua C protein skimmer. I have two false clowns, a
royal Gramma, a lawnmower blenny and snails/hermit crabs/1 emerald crab,
2 conch snails. I have 2 mushrooms. The tank is 4 months old. <A 4
month old tank is not old enough. Anemones need established
environments, 6 months to one year.> Salinity: 1.025 <1.026 is
better.> temp: 78 Calcium: 420 Alkalinity: 4 <I’m not sure
what method you are using for testing. See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/alkalinity.htm > Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate:
0 Magnesium: 1200. <I would aim for the 1300 – 1500 range.>
Thank you guys so much! Regards, Sami <You’re welcome! Brenda>
Re: Sick Sebae Anemone, Not enough lighting. – 12/4/07 Thank you
for your comments below, Brenda. <You’re Welcome!> I turned the
anemone around and fed it (it did eat, at least)... I will try and
nurture it back to health. Hopefully it works.. How much lighting
would be needed in your view? (I read that 4 watt per gallon, so in my
case 160 watt should be sufficient, and thus thought that 2x96 watt was
all right)...? <This is only a rule of thumb, and not a good one in
my opinion. You also have to consider that 96 of the watts that you have
are actinic which are more cosmetic than beneficial compared to the
daylight bulb. See here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/lighting/actinicfaqs.htm and
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/heteraccrispa.htm
If it were me, I would go with a 2x175W watt metal halide or a 6x39W T-5
setup with individual reflectors.> Kind regards, Samira <Good luck
to you! Brenda>
Lighting Upgrade For A 25” Deep Anemone Tank – 12/03/07 Great
Morning to you all! <<Hiya Jane... Or should I call you “double-oh?”
[grin]>> I am a WWM junkie--so yes, I am current on reading and
research. <<Ah well...junkie or not...there’s always something
bearing research/worth reading...>> I am upgrading a 2 year old 30g 2
fish, excessive live rock, bubble coral, 2 no longer small bubble tip
anemone, 4 mushroom, 1 tree coral, small clean up crew-- aquarium w/130
watts pc dual actinic/dual 10,000 k. <<Mmm, indeed... As a WWM
“junkie” I’m sure you know our general take on mixing motile and sessile
invertebrates>> Can you tell me what the acronym for that is?
Kidding. <<Hee-hee! I think it is called T-R-O-U-B-L-E >> (side
note my bta have doubled in size and bubble coral is right at 12" in
full extension--forcing the upgrade) <<Yikes...no kidding!>> What
I have recently purchased is Remora-Pro w/Mag-3, Rena Filstar xP2,
<<I hope the canister filter is for “chemical” filtration and will be
serviced regularly>> couple of Zoo-Med 270 gph Power Sweeps on a 56g
tank. <<Hmm...is better...but really, you need a tank twice this size
considering you are housing a pair of BTAs...and that large Bubble
Coral. Do also consider setting up the old 30g tank as a sump or
refugium for this new tank>> This is the part where I cheesed out on
research: the new tank dimensions are 30lx18wx25h. Length is an issue in
relation to available watts on 30" light fixtures. OOPS! Not finding
anything over 150w in a 30" ready made. <<I see...you must be
referring to fluorescent fixtures. And I agree...not likely to find
enough “punch” for your present livestock>> I am not an electrician,
so building a fixture is out of the question. <<You don’t have much
room to work with anyway...time to consider a “single-point” light
source>> Considering MH at this point due to depth/height of tank.
<<Ah...very good>> Amazing how "blast, that's a great price on the
tank/stand combo" turns into "now I know why." <<Yep...lighting can
often equal a third or more of the total expense>> Two options--
SunPod HQI 30" 250w OR Hamilton pendant 400w HQI (app 16" wide). Is the
Hamilton overkill? <<You could probably get by with less (250w), but
given the depth of the tank and the presence of the anemones...not
really overkill in my opinion...especially if you are leaning toward the
higher Kelvin temperatures. And I do think the Hamilton fixture to be
the better choice re quality/reliability>> And will the light
disperse throughout the tank given the 16" length of the light fixture
in relation to tank dimensions? <<Much depends on the design of the
reflector. The general rule-of-thumb is to figure one MH bulb for every
two feet of tank length (or width, as the case may be). In other words,
one MH fixture for a 2-foot tank, two MH fixtures for a 4-foot tank,
etc.. But, given that this fixture could be positioned a good 12-inches
above the water’s surface, you should get adequate spread on this 30”
long tank...especially if you keep the most-light demanding organisms
away from the perimeter>> I do intend to "grow" in this hobby- i.e.
acquiring and propagating coral. Suggestions greatly appreciated in
regards to lighting--or anything else I have overlooked. <<As
stated, I do think you could get by with a 250w pendant fixture. I would
recommend the LumenMax 3 DE HQI pendant
(http://oceanencounter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=OE&Product_Code=SSL32DHP&Category_Code=PEN).
This is an excellent reflector that will maximize the output of the 250w
bulb. Do note that this is just the fixture...a separate ballast and
bulb would still need to be purchased (my vote goes to the IceCap
electronic ballast paired with a Ushio 10000K DE bulb). Initial cost
will be more than the Hamilton product. But you will be getting a better
reflector design, a more energy efficient and cooler running ballast,
and a better bulb...in my humble opinion. As well as savings on
continued energy costs with the 250w vs. 400w fixture>> Peace, polyps
and plankton, Jane (in search of a 12 step program for my marine
addiction) Bond <<Shaken, not stirred... Eric Russell>>
Anemone Lighting 11/23/07 I could use some help please. I am
running a fish store in Florida and am currently not selling
anemones due to a lack of lights on my invert system and a lack of
interest in keeping them in my reef tanks for fear of them harming
corals (and fear of mixing the anemones). <All valid concerns.>
I wish to light a section of my invert system to keep them for sale,
and wish to give my customers the best info I can (what better place
to find it than here?). So.... do I just flat out recommend (and
use) HQI for every species? Is HQI really just as good as halide? Is
PC or T5 a choice if they use A LOT? lol. <They will generally
require fairly intense lighting. Metal halide would be my personal
choice, but PC, T5 and VHO can work in appropriate intensities. HQI
is just as good (some argue better) as regular mogul base halides.>
Any help you can give me to be able to sell anemones to those who
wish to keep them without being "one of those stores" that just sell
anything to anyone to make a buck (we like for our customers to keep
their livestock ALIVE, the money may help pay the bills, but deaths
hurt the conscience). <Be aware as you stated that mixing
anemones, even in a sale tank, is not the best thing to do. Also,
the average aquarist may not be able to care for many anemones
commonly offered for sale. For more information on your particular
concerns please read through the anemone FAQ’s. Your care for the
livestock involved is very much appreciated. Thank you, Scott V.>
Re: Anemone Lighting 11/25/07 Thanks for the quick reply for
my customers and I! <You’re welcome.> When you say
"appropriate intensities" for all things not HQI, are we talking a
certain watts per gallon? I know I have a lot of specific questions,
but I wouldn't be an ethical fish store without making sure I gave
out all the best info to the consumer. <First of all, your
concern for doing the right thing is greatly appreciated. I feel
that the standard halides are every bit as good as HQI, it is just
that some feel that HQI has a slight edge on mogul base. I would not
keep an anemone under anything less than a halide, but fluorescents
can work. As far as intensities for the different types of
fluorescents it is hard to give a general rule. It just depends on
the tank, placement and type of anemone. A watts per gallon rule by
is by no means rock solid, but it can provide guidelines (minimum 5
watts per gallon). Keep in mind that in smaller systems this rule
will still not provide the intensity required. That being said there
are certain anemones that should only be kept with metal halide. I
would simply stick with Entacmaea quadricolor (BTA). Good luck,
Scott V.> |
Anemone Lighting help! Using WWM 11/21/07 I recently
purchased a very healthy looking Condylactis Anemone from my local fish
store. When I got home, I realized that my lighting was insufficient. I
have fairly bright lights, but as I received the aquarium, hood and all,
for free, I didn't think anything of it other than the fact that it all
worked. Now, the anemone is doing fine in my tank now (a 40 gallon
tank with 20 pounds of live rock, 2 Ocellaris clowns, a small yellow
tang, 5 turbo snails, 7 small hermits, and a camel shrimp.) but I was
wondering if I could have a makeshift setup for a little stronger light.
<Maybe> My grandmother, an avid gardener, has a few lamps that she
doesn't use any more that were formerly kept in a greenhouse during the
winter. Her plants all did wonderful under it, and I was wondering if an
anemone would do the same. <Possibly... depends on the light quality,
intensity... Do be careful with the fixture around saltwater... and make
sure this unit is plugged in/through a GFCI...> I will be moving to a
100 gallon tank that I am also receiving for free at the beginning of
next year, and I will purchase a light that is sufficient at that time.
However, until mid January or so, what should I do to keep my anemone
thriving? <Read... Here: http://wetwebmedia.com/condyanemones.htm
and the linked files above... and re the fish species you list... the
Yellow Tang needs more room... and re the use of Ground Fault Circuit
Interruptors... Bob Fenner>
Another Soul Confused By The Light
Lighting For Heteractis Crispa/Malu 10/18/07 Thank you for the
bounty of information that you provide and the selfless amount of time
you give that makes this site possible. <You're welcome.> I have a
95 gallon Wave Tank (L 48 x W 25 x H 24) My current lighting is by 2
65W CF 10000K and 2 65W CF True Actinic 03 Blue I would like to
attempt to keep Heteractis malu or Heteractis crispa Anemones. <A
very difficult anemone to keep/acclimate.> If I upgrade my lights to
2X150W MH Lamp + T5 HO Lamps 2x54w Actinic 460nm 2x54w Actinic 420nm
would that be enough light for them? <Kathy, I think it would be
borderline for this anemone as they do require intense lighting. Do read
here and linked files above, make absolutely sure you want to try
keeping one.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/heteraccrispa.htm>
Thanking you in advance, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Kat
Making Friends With His Anemone!
Anemones lighting and positioning
8/13/07 My anemone, Medusa, was seemingly doing well and
perhaps he still is but he has recently moved to the top of the tank
which is obviously closer to the lighting but also closer to the
water flow from the Penguin filter. <When anemones move, they
are generally telling us that something is not right for them in
their present position. Typically, this is related to water flow
and/or lighting.> When he was in the lower position, he looked
happy and he was eating. Should I be concerned that he has moved
so close to the top? What do you think this movement means? Is he
not getting enough food? Light? <As you suspect, this is usually
a response to some parameter being not to the anemone's liking.
Observe the anemone's behavior in it's new position. In particular,
pay close attention to the animal's orientation to the lighting and
flow. Is it closing up? Is the animal trying to orient itself into
the flow, or away from it? Is the animal feeding, has color changed,
etc?> 2nd subject: Algae. I recently bought the Nova Extreme
fixture and ever since I have had an awful time with red algae on my
rocks. I've tried to limit the lighting time but that still hasn't
solved the problem. Do I need to increase the water changes?
<Typically, algae blooms are a function of nutrients in conjunction
with lighting. Increased lighting intensity and/or longer
photoperiods alone do not cause such blooms. Be sure take into
consideration the entire picture. Could your source water be high in
a nutrient that algae favors? If so, the increased lighting could
result in such a bloom. If you're using RO/DI water, do check the
membranes/prefilters to assure that they are not saturated. If they
are, of course, replacement would make a big difference. Water
changes with properly conditioned water are never a bad idea, of
course, so do keep them up. Frequent, consistent small (like 10% of
system capacity) water changes are never a bad idea.> Happily, my
water parameters are all good. Thanks in advance. My tank:
Blue Regal Tang Yellow Tang Coral Beauty Dwarf Angel
Tricolor Fairy Wrasse Royal Gramma Mandarin Dragonet
Scissortail Dartfish Redfire Shrimp Green Fluorescent
Mushrooms Sand Sifting Sea Star Snails: Bumble Bee, Super
Tongan Nassarius, Mexican Turbo, Zebra Turbo Lots of rock,
decorative and live Equipment 55 gallon, 48x12x18 Penguin
BioWheel 350 SeaClone 100 Skimmer Nova Extreme T-5 Fixtures
w/Lunar Lights (48" - 216 watts) 2 SlimPaq 460nm Actinic and
2-10000°K T-5 HO lamps 18 watt turbo twist UV sterilizer <If
it were me- I'd keep up the water changes, observe the anemone
continuously, and be prepared to take action, if necessary for the
anemone. Do review those water parameters regularly (particularly
phosphate, silicate, and nitrate)...these parameters can give you
some clues about what may be causing the algae bloom. Continued
success to you! Regards, Scott F.> | 
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Anemone Lighting 8/8/07 Hello Crew, <Hi> I am in the
process of getting a tank that is 72x24x30. The plan is getting either a
LTA or Carpet anemone species tank and need to know the thoughts on
lighting such a deep aquarium. Either I was thinking of T5 lighting
which I could find 4 4x36 fixtures having 39 watt bulbs each, or a Metal
Halide fixture that has 3 150 watt or 250 watt bulbs which is 72 inches.
I'd like to go the T5 route due to cost and heat issues but didn't know
what type of lighting for a deep tank like this. My LFS says go with
T5's but I'm always concerned with people not having correct knowledge.
<Yes, your LFS is wrong. For a tank 24" deep, metal halide lighting will
be needed, and I would go with the 250 watt system. Do read here on
anemones, know what you are getting into.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm> Thank you for your
time and effort. <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Lighting, Anem. sys...
7/28/07 Hi WWM crew. <Hello Ted> First off I must say I
love your site even if the amount of information can sometimes be
daunting. I have learned a great deal, even if some of it was a little
late. <Better late than never.> I have a 35 gal. aquarium that has
been set up for about three months now and it has been doing fine so far
on very inadequate lighting. There is about 20 lbs. of live rock, a few
blue/green chromis and a couple of false percula clowns, an assortment
of hermits and snails, a blood cleaner shrimp and an anemone (if I knew
then what I know now). The anemone is Macrodactyla Doreensis as far as I
can tell, and had I been more knowledgeable I would have waited much
longer before adding such a sensitive inhabitant even though he is very
attractive and interesting. All the chemistry is good as per suggestions
from WWM and all inhabitants seem to be doing just fine, eating, moving
and interacting just as I would hope and expect. <Ted, even under the
best conditions, anemones usually won't last more than a year. Your tank
is much too small for keeping anemones for any length of time.> Now
to the real question I set up the aquarium with 20 watts of fluorescent
lighting as I was told this would be sufficient for now. <Ha, who
told you that baloney.> I have since learned that this probably not
correct <Not probably, is so.> so I purchased a 2 x 96 W power
compact fixture for the aquarium, 1 - 12,000K and 1 - actinic. I am now
wondering how to transition from 20 W on a 12 hour schedule to 192 W and
on what schedule? Should I simply remove the 20 W and start with the new
light on a shorter day and build up? <Yes.> Or should I go with 12
hours of light with some of those hours at 20 W and some at 192 W slowly
moving toward all 192 W and no 20 W? Perhaps a mix of these would be
best? <I'd just stay with the PC system.> I know that the new
light level is going to be a shock to the inhabitants but I want to
minimize it as much as possible. I have also seen where the actinic is
on for longer than the daylight lamp, is this necessary, recommended, or
just a little better way to do things? <Mostly aesthetic reasons...a
softer light to start and end with. I like to set my timer up so the
lights never go off or on in a darkened room.> Thank you for your
time and the abundance of information, <Do read here and linked files
above. Learn their requirements/needs.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
James (Salty Dog)> Ted
Lighting, SW, upgrade... reef/anemone... 6/13/07
Hello wonderful crew! <Don> I currently have 2 Condy's and have a
PC 2 96w with one half true actinic. I also have a double strip light
that came with my 54 corner. 41Lx28Wx23H. I have read all the FAQ's I
could possibly find. So should I change out the actinic for another bulb
and what amount of Kelvin should it be 10 K? <I would... this would
be fine... down to about 6,500 K> Should I then put actinic bulbs
into the double strip light with actinic or 18000K or smaller K bulbs.
<The latter IMO, and smaller... Unless you prefer looks over function of
the higher incandescence...> They would be 20 watt bulbs each in the
strip. Also I will be upgrading when the $ comes in of course. The
lighting I looked at 2X150W MH Lamp 2x39w Actinic 460nm2x39w Actinic
420nm 9 blue LEDs/9 white LEDs or 2X250W MH Lamp 2x39w Actinic
460nm2x39w Actinic 420nm 9 blue LEDs/9 white LEDs? <The former would
be my choice... the latter are too hot, bright...> And let's play
pretend that I plan on keeping other anemone's that require the most
demanding lighting. Obviously never mix species in the same tank. Or
would you recommend another light or is 2x250 MH too much for a 54?
<Not until you know much better what you're doing... Too much else that
has to be accounted, adjusted for...> Oh yea one more thing I battled
ich and had to unfortunately put my tomato clown back in the main tank
due to water supply went bad and got it fixed only after 2 weeks of
treatment/main tank fallow and it's been a week and a half later and no
signs of ich or scratching. Of course I put the heat to 90 for a couple
days and all my inverts survived and I didn't mean to put it that high
but all turned out ok. So the question is I have now 4 Chromis in my new
quarantine tank and planned on putting them in the main tank after their
nice 4 week vacation but how long does one wait to see if ich comes
back? <Mmm, about this long... Really... the Clown may have
induced/developed immunity... all, any new fish/es may contract...>
(I have read all FAQ's and realize it could take several months) but
still wanted your opinion on the matter. I would hate to take the clown
out and put him in the q tank with Chromis and start formalining them
all. Thank you very much for your time and endless efforts to help us
all. Please be patient with all of us as we love your
answer's/assurance. Don V. <I am hoping... and think you may be
too... that the Crypt is "all gone"... Bob Fenner> Ballast
Died 911, anem. hlth. 4/25/07 Hi crew,
I hope everyone is doing well. I have a bit of an emergency and I am
hoping that someone may be able to lend me their expertise. Today,
04/24/2007, my Icecap 660 ballast bit the dust. I have rewired
everything changed the fuse all to no avail. I have ordered a new
ballast and, since I needed them, four new 110W watt VHO bulbs. I
ordered two URI Aqua sun bulbs and two Actinic 03 bulbs. I have a sebae
anemone that I have kept now for approximately three years. I have the
ballast and the bulbs ordered next day air, but since I missed the 1 PM
cutoff they will likely no arrive until Thursday, 04/26/2007. What can I
do for my anemone in the mean time? <Mmm, a light directed toward it
from the outside? Likely this brief time in the "dark" will not be a
problem> When I arrived home this afternoon the anemone was rolled
into itself is the best that I can describe what I saw. I put a table
lamp (shade removed) with a 25W standard fluorescent plant bulb in it as
close to the glass as possible where the anemone presides in the
aquarium. I seriously doubt this is doing any good but I really don't
want to lose this animal that I have worked so hard to help thrive in
captivity. Your expedited response would be greatly appreciated as I am
nearly at wits end about how to help it get through this safely. I am
also concerned about the sole mushroom anemone in the aquarium as it
required light to thrive as well. The only other inhabitants of the
aquarium are a maroon clown fish, a yellow tail blue damsel, a lawnmower
blenny, a skunk cleaner shrimp, a long spine sea urchin, a pencil urchin
and various hermits and
snails. Sincerest
thanks, Michael
Burroughs <There are times in the wild when there is little sunshine
for days on end (big storms)... I would not be over-wrought here. If
these animals are in good shape, they'll be fine. Bob Fenner>
Lighting Needs for Anemone Tank; Kilowatts? – 04/16/07
Thanks for all your help with my anemone and thanks heaps for the site
you gave me. <Thank you for the compliments.> It really helped
me understand what my anemone was going through. <Awesome.> I
have read through and searched article on lighting but it is all so
confusing as I don't understand fully of what all the jumbo language is.
<Well that's what I'm here for, clarification.> I have a 5ft x 2ft x
2ft tank with only a few bits of live rock, about 2 inches of shell grit
(live sand) on the bottom, it is mainly a fish only tank and also houses
a bubble tip anemone and a Catalaphyllia. <Well with these critters
you in essence have a reef tank, the anemone especially is a very
particular critter, as far what it likes and doesn't like.> At the
moment there isn't sufficient lighting and I was wondering what the
requirements for this type of tank is? <Mmm for a tank housing
anemones of this size you could go for a bank of T-5 High Output
fluorescents or even a few Metal Halide pendants. Either one could
potentially be appropriate.> E.g.. How many KW is sufficient enough
<KW? As in kilowatt? As in equals 1000 watts? I wouldn't go by this
measurement to pick your next lighting system. Perhaps you are
referring to the watts rule or the watts per gallon quote as I call it,
neither are a good way to pin-point how much light you need. In
aquariums quaint past it may have been a good measure of lighting amount
but other than that it's a pretty dated and inefficient manor when it
comes to measuring the amount of light for your photosynthetic animals.
With so many different types of lighting and the arrangements they are
put in; types of lighting, brand of bulb, brand of ballast, kelvin
temperature of the bulb, brand of reflector, reflector shape and
material the reflector is made up of....there just too many variables to
make the WPG rule reliable. What I recommend is measuring the P.A.R.
rating or the amount of lumens the lighting produces.> at the moment
I am only running a marine Glo light and 2x power Glo lights. <You
do need more/different lighting to meet the animals needs.> All 3
are only 3ft long but. I am just using what I have around until I know
the best way to light up my tank. Thanks <Welcome, AJ.>
Anemones and Lighting - 3/12/07 Hello, <Hello,
Brandon here.> Can you tell me if this bulb (follow link) would be
good to use for anemones, Sebae or Rose and which anemone would be
better to keep. <Firstly, no this bulb will not be even
remotely adequate. Anemones need much more light. I would suggest
reading up on lighting and different types of lighting here,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm Of the two anemones
that you have listed, I would say that the E. quadricolor is the better
selection, this is more of a “beginner“ anemone. I still would suggest
much more research on your part before you select an anemone for
purchase. Here is a good place to start,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
> Also can you mix tomato clowns with other clowns, I've heard they
are some what aggressive and territorial. <As a general rule of
thumb you cannot mix clown fish. They tend to get very territorial, and
this can lead to deaths. There was a point in time that I had no choice
but to keep four Premnas biaculeatus together in a 75 gallon tank. This
did not go very well. It is possible to keep juveniles together as long
as they are juveniles. It would be extremely helpful to know what size
volume of water we are talking about housing your prospective purchases
in.>
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-in-REEF-SUN-ZOO-MED-AQUARIUM-LIGHT-50-50-close-out_W0QQitemZ220089033820QQcategoryZ46314QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Thanks, <You are welcome. Brandon.> Josh
Hi, I read
about what type of lighting the anemones need, but how much do they
require as in hours of light? - 02/21/07 Thanks for your
help! Leigh <Hey Leigh, JustinN with you today. Anemones need a
minimum of 8 hours of light a day, in my opinion. A tropic time setting
would be more appropriate here, being closer to 12 hours a day. Hope
this helps! -JustinN> Sebae Anemone, Research Idea "The Ripple
Effect" MH Shimmer 2/5/07 Hello guys, <Hi Brandon,
Mich again.> I know that this is the second time that I have written
today, but I was reading up on allelopathy at your site when I came
across an extensive amount of information on anemones. I have had a
very "happy" Sebae Anemone (Heteractis crispa) for quite a while now. I
read a reply that stated that MH lighting was preferred for them. I
would like to share a bit of information with you all. I was running a
55 gallon tank with three four foot 110 watt 10k daylight, and one four
foot 100 watt actinic 03 on an Icecap 660 ballast. This translates to
440 watts of light or eight watts per gallon. The H. crispa was meh
ooookaaayy, but I could tell that he was not going to make it past oh
say a year at the very best. I bought a 75 gallon from a person that
thought that caring for his fish was too much work and not a labor of
love. Oh well his loss right? <Right!> So in the
course of placing it I had a bright idea. Since the tank was bigger, I
would transfer my micro reef to it, and create a somewhat bigger micro
reef. I moved my lights, and all of my organisms. Here is where it
gets interesting. Somewhere in the course of all of this some errant
water escaped the tank. Anyone see where this is going? It
(un-beknownst to me) had dribbled down a cord. A cord that was
connected to the ballast. The ballast that was not waterproof. I don't
know if any of you believe in God, but I do now. I turned the lights
on, and they did not come on. So in one of my finest aquatic genius
moments, I touched the ballast. <Yikes!!!> I think
that I am lucky I am not dead. <Glad you're OK.>
Excuse the French, but there is really no other way to say it, I got the
holy h-e-double hockey sticks shocked out of me. <I'm
envisioning your hair going from straight to curly!> I am kind of
glad that I did though. <Really?> This was on a
Monday (My Sunday), Tuesday morning I was in the LFS buying a MH
retrofit that I had seen for $899 USD with a 20% discount. Like I said
labor of love. <Cha-ching!> I set it up, hooked up
all the ballasts, and turned it on (electrocution free, I put the
ballasts on the outside this time and drilled some holes, it's ugly but
safer.) <Safety is the more important issue.> The MH
system has less light wattage, but there is a "ripple
effect". EVERYTHING, fish and all immediately responded. The H. crispa
stopped moving and perked up immediately. I think that I have a pretty
hardy one (it was "thriving", according to them, under PC at the LFS),
but I am willing to bet anyone a million dollars that it is not really
benefiting from the MH itself, and more from the "ripple effect". I
have been diving off of the coast of Belize, and this looks more
natural. Perhaps this is one of the keys? <Perhaps.>
Everything that I have read suggests that most Anemone species thrive
under appropriate MH and die off rather quickly under anything
else. Yes I think that a year is quickly for an immortal.
<?> I hope that this information is useful, and that it will further
someone's research. <Thank you for sharing! An interesting
observation.> Thank you all for the wonderful work that you do,
<Welcome! -Mich> Brandon R. Foster Re: Nitrite & Anemone
1/29/07, BTA sys./lambda Dear Mr. Fenner/James Thanks
for the Article on Anemones. <You're welcome> One thing to
clarify though, I use 4 Osram Compact Florescent Lamps: CFL (Daylight)
each with 120W/6500K and the CRI: 85 therefore altogether they produce
480W of daylight. My tank is an 80G tank (43L x 18W x 24H). Please let
me know whether the lighting will be adequate for the Quadricolor
Anemone. <With your 24" tank depth, it will be borderline unless the
anemone decides to move to the upper one third of the tank.> Also
let me know how to measure whether a bulb is full spectrum, broad
spectrum or wide spectrum. It is by the CRI value? <CRI is Color
Rendering Index. An index number of 100 would most duplicate the sun's
spectrum at high noon. Keep in mind that light intensity is very
important here in regards to keeping photosynthetic animals such as the
Quadricolor.> Thanks for your support, <You're welcome. James
(Salty Dog)> Best regards, Akila Re: Nitrite &
Anemone/BTA Systems 1/30/07 Dear Mr. Fenner/James Thanks for
your advice. <You're welcome.> Please let me know what you can
recommend for my tank. I intend to use Compact Florescent Lamps as they
are energy efficient. Do you think I should increase the number of
120W/6500k/85CRI bulbs to support species like anemone. I already have 4
bulbs so should I increase it up to 7 or 8? <I believe two more
additional tubes of the same wattage should do the job here. I would go
with 10K lamps rather than the 6.5K. As to efficiency of the compacts,
yes, they are efficient, but you have to keep in mind that you will be
running a total of 720 watts to do the job three 150 watt HQI's could
do, also resulting in less heat above the tank and more light
penetration into the water. James (Salty Dog)> Best regards,
Akila Lighting/Anemone Systems 11/16/06 I have a rose
bubble anemone, and just purchased some new lights. My new light has a
150 watt metal halide, as well as about 60watts of fluorescent lighting.
<Should be fine here, depending on your tank depth.> I started it
out at 12 inches above the tank, <tank bottom?> and it seemed to effect
<affect> the corals and anemone nicely. Now I have it at about 9
inches; the anemone is about as low as it can get, and is not looking
awesome. Should I move the light down, or up, or might something
else be wrong; my water parameters and temperature are pretty much right
on. <Depending on the length of your photoperiod, you might want to
go with a lower photoperiod and gradually increase it. A good current
in the tank also benefits anemones, helps to clean them of their
waste. Depending on which corals you have, you may also have a little
allelopathy going on here. Do read here and linked files above for
more info. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm>
Thanks! <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Best Regards,
Holland Lighting/Anemone Systems 11/18/06 <Holland, in
future queries, do not inject your comments into the previous query,
just reply to it. Makes it a little tougher to sort/place, when two
queries are integrated into one.> I have a rose bubble anemone, and
just purchased some new lights. My new light has a 150 watt metal
halide, as well as about 60watts of fluorescent lighting. <Should be
fine here, depending on your tank depth.> (tank is 36" deep) <<With
this depth, you will definitely have to go with HQI/MH lighting.>> I
started it out at 12 inches above the tank, <tank bottom?> (from the
tank top) and it seemed to effect <affect> the corals and
anemone nicely. Now I have it at about 9 inches; the anemone is
about as low as it can get, and is not looking awesome. Should I
move the light down, or up, or might something else be wrong; my water
parameters and temperature are pretty much right on. <Depending on
the length of your photoperiod, you might want to go with a lower
photoperiod and gradually increase it. A good current in the tank also
benefits anemones, helps to clean them of their waste. Depending on
which corals you have, you may also have a little allelopathy going
on here. (what is allelopathy?) <<In short, it is chemical
aggression that takes place among the corals. Some corals are more
potent than others in this regard.>> Do read here and linked files
above for more info.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm>
Thanks! <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Best Regards,
Holland Anemone Lighting 10/14/06 WWM Crew how
goes it. <Going OK.> Long time reader FQAer. I have a 260 watt
capable PC light fixture on a standard AGA 55 gal tank currently running
130w 50/50 on FOWLR. I got 75lbs LR and LS (3"+) I want to house
anemones and a few softies what would be the best combo of bulbs for
this fixture? <Really not recommended to mix anemones and corals,
especially in a small tank. As for lighting, will all depend on which
type anemones you wish to keep. A Bubble Tipped would be one that would
do OK under 260 watts of PC lighting. Read here and linked files
above. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marlgtganthony.htm>
What should I replace my Fluval 404 with? Since canister filters are not
good for reef system; <Misconception here in my opinion. I use a
canister filter with no problems at all. The problem that lies with the
canister filters is in not being cleaned weekly and allowing the
detritus to turn into dissolved nutrients.> also plan on having a
very light bio load 1 goby, 2 clowns, 1 yellow tang, 1 blenny, <Not
a "very light bio load" for a 55 gallon tank. Will soon be too small
for the tang.> a 10 gal sump with ASM G-1 or G-2 skimmer coming
soon, don't know which one. What are you thoughts. <A good skimmer,
I'd get the model that would handle a larger tank. Most folks upgrade
to larger tanks, and will be one less expense if you don't have to buy
another skimmer.> I am just looking for some expert opinions and
advice thanks!!!! <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Anemone Lighting 10/16/06 Thanks for the reply Salty Dog, well I
planned on getting one bubble tip or one sebae for the clowns and have
you heard of sewing them to rocks for placement? <Not in my
lifetime.> My friend that propagates corals said that's what he
heard to do. Well If I can't have them I can't have them. What soft
coral do well in a smaller system with PC lighting? <Again, how much
PC lighting?> With the Canister you say take it apart and clean once
a week rinsing everything with (tap water)? <Mainly removing the old
filter media and replacing/cleaning with new.> I also have a
Marineland 200 bio wheel on the tank I know its only rated for 50 gal
but I have the 404 also, I just thought the bio wheel would help and it
has. Do you think that 10k or 6700 day light for soft corals? <I'd
go with the 10K.> I have read so many different things and been told
sooo many opposing opinions. What I want is a clean cut, you can have
this and not this, and you need this on your tank set up. <All this
info available on the Wet Web Media, do learn to use and learn. I will
start you off with a couple of links. Do read linked files above,
also. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marineSetUp.htm
and
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/soft.htm> Also Just want to know what
the best Anemones are for a 55 with PC lighting. For the Maroon and
gold stripe clowns, I was really just thinking of some shroom's and
Ricordea but what you guys say goes, I am tired of the LFS's all saying
something different and opposite. THANKS! Again Sorry about all the
jabbering, ? 1: Best anemone(s) for 55 with 260w pc fixture (with
which combo of bulbs) <Would go with a Bubble Tip here.> ?
2: Best softies for 55 with 260w pc fixture (with which combo of bulbs)
<Do search/read, all this info is on the WWW, keyword, lighting.> I
will decide which one I will go with just have to weigh the options, I
sincerely appreciate the help You aquarist are AWESOME! <Jacob, in
future queries, do reply to the original so we know what was talked
about. We get hundreds of queries weekly and cannot remember verbatim
what was discussed on each particular query. Also do a spelling/grammar
check before sending, so we don't have to do it, and no abbreviations
please. Thank you, James (Salty Dog)> Re: Anemone Lighting
10/18/06 Sorry about the abbreviations and stuff will try harder
next time because I know you guys volunteer all your time which is just
awesome. I was wondering, soft corals such as polyps, shrooms, and
Ricordea, will they all do well under 130w 10k and 130w actinic 03 Power
Compact Lighting. <They should do fine.> I guess I am just going
to get over the fact that anemones in a small system do not mix. One
anemone is not worth all the (soft) corals. <No, much more pleasing
with a tank full of soft corals, and more economical, as anemones in
captive systems have a very short life span.> I just want to be
absolutely certain what will survive, I do not want to start killing
corals and wonder why. <Do search our site on soft corals. Much to
be learned here.> Thanks A lot Crew, you guys and gals are the
best. <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Anemone Health
And Lighting 9/11/06 Dear Crew <Greg> I am relatively
new to SW and fish tanks in general but I am giving it a shot, so far I
love the hobby. Right now I have a 20 tall with 2 Top Fin 20 filters and
a 20 watt bulb. I know it is not a lot of lighting but just can't afford
to upgrade at the moment. I have 30 lbs of live sand and 30 lbs of live
rock. In the tank I have 1 Condy that has footed nicely but 2 days ago I
introduced a LTA (appears healthy). The LTA has yet to take foot to
anything and is just floating around the tank. I was reading some of
your articles and came across something about an anemone not "footing"
because of a chemical war. So last night I removed my Condy and placed
it in a hospital tank that I have set up. Could the reason that the LTA
is not footing because of the chemical war? The next morning the LTA has
still yet to "foot" to anything. Please help... The 2nd part of my
question is that currently I have 1 Maroon clown in my tank, but he has
yet to take to either my Condy or my LTA. My LFS said that the clowns
rarely take to a Condy, but it should love the LTA. Is it the just type
of my clown that doesn't like anemone's or have I not giving it enough
time with my LTA? <Oh boy o boy. Your 20 gallon high is much too
small for keeping anemones. They are sensitive to changes in water
parameters which can shift very quickly in small tanks. Your lighting
isn't near enough for keeping any anemone alive. They are a
photosynthetic animal that requires bright light to survive. Also keep
in mind that in the home aquarium, under proper conditions, anemones
rarely live more than a year. Did the LFS tell you your tank and
lighting are inadequate for anemones, or was he just interested in
making the sale? Do read here and linked files above, especially
lighting. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm>
Thanks dearly, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Greg Lewis
Can gods make tanks that are too small to illuminate Anemones properly?
8/23/06 Hi <Hello> My name is Trevor and I was
wondering how much lighting I need for a 5 gallon 10 in. high minibow
tank. I will have a bulb tipped sea anemone in it. <Not for long
likely...> I'm pretty sure the 15 watt bulb that comes with it is
not enough. Please respond as soon as possible <Very hard to keep
such a small marine system stable "enough" Trevor... particularly for
animals such as Anemones. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
and the linked files above. Trying to apply sufficient light/ing here
will create heat/temperature vacillations that will... Bob Fenner>
Lighting For Anemone- One Challenge Met! 8/19/06 I
bought a Sebae Anemone and thought I had strong enough lighting, but
after reading on your site that people often don't, I figured I should
ask. I have is: 2-150 10,000k Powerpaq Metal Halide Bulbs, 2-130 Dual
Actinic 420nm & 460nm Bulbs. My tank is 90 gallons, and I need to know
if I have made a mistake so I can do what is right for the little
guy. Thank you so much for all of your help.-Emily <Well, Emily,
from the lighting standpoint, I think that you're just fine. The
lighting that you are using will provide enough energy for the anemone
to prosper in this sized aquarium. Now, you need to address the other
issues of water quality, food, and flow, and you'll have a beautiful
animal that will thrive for years! Keep reading, and good luck with the
challenge! Regards, Scott F.> Lighting Upgrade For A
BTA 8/17/06 Crew, <Scott F. here tonight!>
Some background: I have a 55 gallon (48" long X 18" deep) that has
been setup for about a year and a half now. After researching and
reading through all your FAQs on BTAs, I purchased one about two weeks
ago. My current lighting is 260 watts (4 * 65 with 2 of them daylight
and 2 actinic) of PC bulbs. The BTA seems to be doing well, stayed
right in the spot I picked out for him, eating well, etc. Based on what
I've read through your FAQs, 220 watts of PC lighting is the bare
minimum for keeping a BTA in a 55 gallon (found this info in an
Anemone Lighting FAQ answered by Steven Pro). <Yep...really bare
minimum for long-term maintenance of these animals, in my opinion.>
I'm interested in upgrading my lighting without trashing the whole
thing, I have a 48" Outer Orbit fixture. An idea that I was considering
is leaving the 2 65 watt actinics in the hood, removing the daylight
bulbs and replacing them with one or two halides retro fitted. Some
options would be two 175 watt 10k bulbs on each end, two 250 watt 10k
bulbs, one 175 watt in the center or one 250 watt in the center. Do
you think just one 175 watt or 250 watt in the center would be adequate?
<I'd go with one or two 150 watt double-ended pendants, myself, like
Reef Optix III's.> If I used just one halide bulb in the center I
could leave the PC sockets on the ends and place shorter length/wattage
bulbs on the end (like a 32 watt bulb on each end). I'd like to upgrade
it in some way that will help my BTA to thrive without replacing the
entire lighting system. Thanks in advance for any input you can give me
on this and thank you VERY much for the great info you guys have
compiled on your site. Here's a link so you can check out how the
BTA is looking:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m243/nickterp/clownanem.jpg
Nick <Thanks, Nick. I think that a simple addition of a halide or wo
will do the trick! Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Long Tentacle Anemone and lighting. 7/22/06 Hi guys!
I just bought a purplish green LTA yesterday from my LFS. In there
tank it looked great, so I purchased the LTA and now it doesn't look to
hot. it just lays on its side, this evening I noticed it was turned
inside out. As soon as I fed it some thawed out frozen food (Prime
Reef), it became very responsive and the tentacles inflated and it
looked happy for about 5 min then it let go of the food and just started
to close up. I have tested the tank's water, you name it I tested for it
and everything was perfect. the only thing left is maybe the lighting.
My lighting is 1 10k 65w PC and 1 65w Blue Actinic PC for a total
of 130 Watts of lighting. My tank is only a 20 gallon that is 17"
tall with 2" of sand then the PC lights are about 2.5 inches from the
top of my take making the LTA only a total of 17.5" away from the light.
is this enough light for this thing? My LFS told me it was but after
reading allot of forums I am not to sure now. what is your opinion on
this? Thank You Josh <<Josh: I hate to tell you this; but,
you should probably take the anemone back. Usually most anemones sold
as LTA are Macrodactyla doreensis (MD). MD anemones will only bury
their foot in a deep sand bed. Thus, you should probably have at least
6 inches vs. the 2 inches you have. On top of that, they can get very
large. Mine is about 15 inches across. Your best bet for a starter
anemone would be a Bubble Tip Entacmaea quadricolor clone that has split
in another reefkeeper's tank. They are pretty hardy and you won't be
trying to take care of an anemone that was just pulled out of the
ocean. Best of luck, Roy>>
Lighting issues??? Really just
misplaced Anemones 7/6/06 Hi there crew!! I'm new to
your pages and find it very helpful. <Change in number...
pages/them> It has answered a lot of questions <It/they>
for me but one. what <Cap.> type of lighting would work best
for me?? I have a 40 gal breeder tank 36x18x16 currently with 45 lbs LR
and 60 lbs LS crappy but after mod's (thanks' to you guys) acceptable
sea clone <Product, capitalized> 1 50 (took me almost a week to
tune right) penguin 400 bio wheel <Dittos> filter (no fiber
media just baskets with matrix by SeaChem <> to help keep leaves
down) two MaxiJet 400's for current and a homemade 5 gal refugium (for
my mandarin buddy :o) ). I currently have 4 types of
damsels , two Percs , a zebra goby , a mandarin , a skunk shrimp , a
peppermint shrimp , a emerald crab , some turbo snails , some
hermits , some polyps (couple different types) , some buttons , a BTA
,and a LTA. <These anemones are misplaced here> Everyone has
been doing great!! but the two anemones are new to me and I know I need
better lighting for them. <Actually... they should be moved
elsewhere. Pronto> right now I have three fluorescent 50\50 2 being
18" the other 24". Now my question is what's better PC or T5?? <For
the animals listed, likely the latter> I have got many mixed answers
about this question from LPS <Talking to Scleractinia?>
and figured I need to find better help. I'm interested in maybe adding a
coral or two but want to make sure I get right lighting so if I do
decided to I can. I already know that the anemones need more light I
have had them for about 2 months now and they look good I watch them eat
I have even seen them move around to different spots in
the tank. the LT I have even seen make a home at the bottom of the tank
he's been there for a month now and hasn't moved but still
eats regally . I feed tank 2-3 times a day morning feeding being frozen
Mysis and frozen rotifers second being marine snow liquid (the fish go
nuts for this stuff lol) the third but not all the time
being super soft sinking pellets with krill which I crush so its like a
powder so power heads blow it around. I'm almost for got to mention
the rotifers sometimes get switched up for frozen invert food (its green
in color and stinks lol). Everyone seems to be very happy in this
little environment I have created but I know they would fair well
with better lighting. please help me make the right choice here so I'm
not just blowing money away. Thanks in advance!! :o) Mark
<Mmm, I'd be moving the anemones, not fooling with the lights. Bob
Fenner> Re: lighting issues??? 7/7/06
Hi there. Thanks for the input. Thing is I really want to keep anemones.
What should I change to keep these guys. If its to remove damsels
not a prob. <Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm scroll down
to the tray on "Anemones"... read... re their Systems, Compatibility...>
I got them in the beginning to cycle tank and they have just
stayed! thanks for the answer on the PC or T5 question. PC is what I
myself was leaning towards. Now would 2 96 watt bulbs be
enough? <Please read re... > Please help me with keeping the
anemones the perc. clowns love them. What would you change. Thanks
for everything!! Mark
<Keep reading! Cheers, Bob Fenner> Anemone feeding/lighting and
Tank Upgrade - 5/11/2006 Lisa (or whomever the aquarist
guru/happy helper of the day is), <<Ha! This is Lisa again.>>
Thanks for getting back to me sooooo quickly. <<You're welcome.>>
In response to your question regarding my lighting for the anemone-this
is what I've got on the (still 30 gallon) tank: Current Dual Satellite
Lamp- 65 watt 2-lamp with lunar light (Dual Daylight 6,700/10,000 K and
Dual Actinic 420 Nm/460 Nm). <<I have never used this myself.>>
I was told at my LFS that the lighting is sufficient for the corals and
anemones, but I've seen many examples of disastrous consequences of poor
advice while reading your FAQ's. Was I misinformed? <<Not
entirely. Certainly not enough light for SPS, or an anemone, in my
opinion. Proper supplemental feeding of the anemone will surely
help. Is this the lighting that will go on the 72-gallon you are moving
to? If so, I would look into upgrading.>> Everything still seems to
be perky in there, but one never knows. I am feeding the anemone every
4-5 days with a small piece of raw shrimp or a small ball of formula one
frozen food. <<Not still frozen, I hope? Small meaty foods are the
way to go. Read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/anemonefdgfaqs.htm,
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm.>>
I guard him from the sneaky thieving shrimp or put a strawberry basket
over him for awhile so he has a chance to decide if he wants to eat the
food, or spit it out. I AM somewhat unsure of the feeding technique- do
I gently shove the food into his mouth or just put it on his "lips"
waiting for his response? I don't want to gag the poor guy, but I don't
want to starve him either. <<Do read the linked files. Is he no
longer ‘sticky’?>> As for my new setup- here is what I'm
planning. I've spent the last three days reading FAQ's (and
subsequently eating nothing but beer and Cheetos) <<Diet of
champions, to be sure!>> but I'm still a little unclear, so if you
would humor me with some constructive criticism: 72 gallon display
with 1 inch oolitic sand (and an area of deeper sand-about 3 inches as
my firefish likes to burrow) Filtration: 15-gallon sump/refugium
with 6" sand bed of coarse- medium grade sand (taken from my current
tank with a 2-21/2 inch sand bed. Bad idea?) <<Not a bad idea to
use it from the other tank, no. My preference for DSB’s is oolitic
sand.>> and some "spaghetti" algae. Aqua C Remora Pro with Mag-3
pump (hanging on sump) <<Good skimmer.>> Rena XP3 canister
filter (trying to decide if I should filter/return directly from tank or
in sump after skimming) with charcoal, nitrate sponge. <<I do not
employ canisters on my reef tanks.>> Water movement: SEIO M820
Powerhead the 1200 Powerhead off the cheapie SeaClone skimmer
couple of airstones (necessary?) <<No.>> Visi-Therm Stealth 250
watt heater I'd like to move my existing fish but add a beefier
cleanup crew... but many of the packages I see for sale seem
excessive. Do I really need 18 Scarlet Hermit Crabs, 15 Astrea Snails,
15 Cerith Snails, and 45 Red-or Blue-Leg Hermits? <<You don’t NEED
any of them. It is a personal choice. I add ‘clean-up crews’ for
interest/bio-diversity. Ultimately it’s our job to feed properly/deal
with organics.>> I was planning to add a couple of Bumble Bee
snails, a sifting type star or two, and another tiny hermit crab.
<<I would pass on both the BumbleBee snails and the sand sifting
stars. These stars quickly eat up all available organisms in DSB’s, and
perish.>> My poor abused fairy wrasse actually seems... happy... in
the tiny 10-gallon quarantine as of right now. <<She is finally
getting a break!>> She is not hiding all day anymore and will
actually eat Formula One from my fingers. I hate to put her back into
the tank with the other nasty wrasse. He's prettier, but I think he
will go if I need to make a choice. <<I think fairy wrasses are much
more attractive than 6-lines.>> Again, thanks for the assistance -
Stephanie D. <<Glad to help. Lisa.>> Re: Anemone
feeding/lighting and Tank Upgrade - 5/13/2006 Hi Lisa- <<Hey
Stephanie.>> Thanks for the links to all the anemone information. I
truly appreciate the patience and the lack of flaming at my stupid
questions! <<Not stupid at all!>> All those hours I was browsing
on WWM- how did I miss that (could it have been the beer)? <<Haha,
maybe!>> I'd been looking at all the local stores in my area for a
book on anemones but couldn't find one. My poor anemone was never
"sticky" from day one. I will read some more of the FAQ's, and if I
can't provide a suitable environment for him I will return him rather
than have him slowly die. <<A wise choice if you can’t care for the
animal. Do try though!>> We are planning on upgrading the lighting
but not sure what we're doing beyond that. I've spent time looking over
the site regarding specifics on lighting. Since I can't seem to find
anywhere that sells bowfront hoods (and only the hoods) it looks like we
will be building our own (maybe this weekend!). <<Do you mean a
lighting hood? A normal fixture is fine to use on a bowfront tank. If
you mean a cover, All Glass has a few different types.>> Do you have
a recommendation- lighting type or wattage that I should be looking for
in order to sustain my corals and anemone? <<In the 72, I would
really recommend metal halides. 2- 150 or 175 watt lamps.> I
couldn't seem to find a standard formula for this, and many of the
different postings in the FAQ's give different recommendations. I am
once again thoroughly confused but I truly want to provide the correct
environment for the marine life I have, rather than return them to the
LFS. <<I understand. It can be confusing. Do look for a unit/bulbs
of 6,500K-10,000K >> Again, thanks for your patience and for helping
to "get the word out" about proper fish care. It helps us ignorant but
well-intentioned fish lovers immensely. <<If only everyone was so
well-intentioned!>> Stephanie D. <<Glad to help. Lisa.>>
Lighting For Anemone - 05/10/2006 Hello Crew! <Hello
Nicole> You guys (or gals) are awesome! I have a
question. I know a local breeder of clowns here in MI and he has some
Pink skunks and ocellaris clowns. <I live in MI, out of curiosity, who
is the breeder?> My question is, is there an anemone that my light can
support? I have a 29g (30x12x18) tank with mostly LPS, Shrooms and
Polyps and my light is PC 2x65w Dual Daylight (67000 & 10k) and Dual
Actinic (460 & 480 I believe). Also are there any deep water SPS I can
keep as well? <Your lighting should support a Bubble Tip
Anemone. Pavona (Lettuce Coral) or Encrusting Horn Coral would be two
that I believe could survive with your lighting providing these corals
are be placed in the upper third of the aquarium.> Thanks,
<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Nicole
Lighting/Reef/Photoshock? - 04/27/06 Dear Wet Web Media
Crew, I have a 240 gallon aquarium with 65 gallon sump. The Tank is
72" long, 24" wide and 32" high. I have three 400 watt metal halides
mounted in the canopy about 10 inches off the surface of the water. The
center bulb is a 20000K and the two sides are both 15000K. I recently
bought a Long tentacle Anemone and acclimated him for my tank. I have a
mated pair of large yellow stripe maroon clowns in the tank that were
extremely happy to have their new friend and bed. The female has been
in the anemone almost the entire time. Constantly shoving her nose and
rubbing her entire body all over the new anemone. I have been running
the lights for about 12 hours a day. This morning, the anemone was so
small that the clown fish could not even get into it. It was shrunk up
to a very small size. Is it possible that I over exposed the anemone to
the light, or is the clown fish too aggressive with it? <The anemone
more than likely went into photoshock. I suggest shortening the photo
period to two hours and gradually increase by 30 minutes every other
day.> I took him out and put him in a bowl away from the clown fish this
afternoon and he seemed to come out after a few hours. I did notice
some little brown and black dots on the ends of his tentacles. Could
these be a form of burn from the metal halides. <Don't
believe so.> I thought that 31 inches of water would be enough of a
buffer for the anemone in the bottom but maybe I should give him some
cover. I have him down in the sump right now which I am setting up to
be a refugium with actinic bulbs. He seems to be doing fine now, but I
would like to put him back in the display tank. The clown fish just
hang out around where the anemone used to be as if they are sad. In
putting the anemone back into the display tank, should I point one of
the inlets from the sump towards the anemone or do they like it more
still? <Indirect current. Wavemakers are great in this regard.> Should
I be feeding the anemone something? Wouldn't do that until it starts
blooming nicely. Do read here for more info on anemone keeping. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
Thank you very much, You guys are life savers. <You're
welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Thanks again, Dustin LeCave
Lighting For a 30" Anemone Tank - 04/26/06 Hi all. <<Hello>>
I just want to say that I am addicted to your site and have learned so
much in just the couple days I've been reading. <<Good to hear...and
do keep reading!>> Glad I'm not terribly busy at work right now.
<<Ha!>> My question is about lighting a 36 gallon, 30" wide bow
front reef tank. The tank has 45 pounds of live rock, 40 pounds of
sand, and a hang on the back - 3 gallon refugium with multiple macro
algae. The refugium lighting is on when the tank lighting is off and
vice versa. <<Mmm, if this "mix" of macro algae includes Caulerpa
species you may want to consider a 24/7 light cycle for the refugium to
forestall the algae going "sexual"...do some (more) reading here, and
follow the links in blue: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caulerpafaq5.htm >>
The livestock is two percula clowns, one coral beauty angel, one star
polyp, one pom-pom xenia, one green carpet anemone (not doing so well
right now. I'm about to do a water change and see if that helps), a few
blue-legged hermit crabs and two turbo snails. <<Be sure
to read through our FAQs re "Carpet Anemones":
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cptanemfaqs.htm >> The width of this
tank isn't as common as others (24" or 36") so finding appropriate
lighting can be a bit difficult. <<Sounds like you need a metal
halide pendant fixture, mate>> I currently have a Current USA Power
Compact Orbit fixture with one 65W Dual 6700K White/10000K White SunPaq
Power Compact Bulb and one 65W 7100K Blue Power Compact Bulb. This
works out to be 3.6 watts per gallon. <<Not enough for the anemone,
in my opinion>> My LFS says that this should be enough, even for the
carpet anemone. <<I disagree>> I just found a 30 inch 2 X 250
HQI Metal Halide Power Compact (http://cgi.ebay.com/30-inch-2-X-250-HQI-Metal-Halide-Power-Compact-new_W0QQitemZ7718407940QQcategoryZ46314QQcmdZViewItem)
on eBay. <<Yikes, pricey...and "more" than you need really>> My
question is will 630 watts (17.5 watts per gallon) be too much for the
tank? <<The "watts per gallon" rule is a "basic" guideline at
best...many things to be considered here. But for your specie of
anemone, no, I do not feel this would be "too much". But I also think
you could do well with less. A single 250w MH pendant with a 10,000K
bulb would be fine for your tank. If you think you "want" some actinic
lighting as well, some pendants feature supplemental PC lighting as
well>> On a side note, does adding supplements such as Reef Plus
help coral growth or are regular water changes just as or more
effective? <<I do like the Seachem products, and adding vitamins to
your system is always of benefit>> Would dipping the silversides
that I'm feeding the green carpet anemone in Reef Plus be beneficial?
<<Possibly, but I prefer Selcon for this (more HUFAs/fatty acids). You
should also vary the anemones diet (marine fish flesh, shrimp, krill,
and squid)>> Thanks for taking the time to read my question.
<<No problem, is what we do <grin> >> Hopefully I'll be able to put
the computer away for a bit tonight so my fiancée' doesn't kill me. :)
<<Not a "pet fish" person, eh>> Ryan Mullinax <<Regards, EricR>>
Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank II - 04/26/06 Thanks Eric.
<<Welcome Ryan>> I definitely don't have any Caulerpa in the tank.
<<Ah good, many folks utilize Caulerpa with great results, but in my
experience...sooner or later it will "turn" on ya. Best to use one of
the multi-cellular macro alga such as Chaetomorpha or Gracilaria...in my
opinion>> I did plenty of reading before getting the refugium.
<<Excellent my friend>> I don't have a canopy for the tank and would
prefer not to hang lighting from the ceiling. <<Mmm, does limit your
options>> Do you have suggestions for fixtures that may have feet
that can sit in an elevated position on the tank and that may be cheaper
than the item on eBay? <<Indeed I do...Current USA has 30" MH
fixture that sets on top of the tank called the 'SunPod PowerPaq HQI
Lamp'...and ...Coralife has a MH fixture that "Clamps" to the top rim of
the tank called the 'Aqualight Advanced Series Hang-on Tank Mount
Fixture'. Search these out on the Net and see what you think>>
Really appreciate all the advice. Ryan Mullinax <<Is my pleasure
Ryan. Regards, Eric Russell>> Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank
III - 04/27/06 Thanks again Eric! <<You bet!>> Just an
FYI, the carpet anemone looks to be doing great right now. <<Good to
know>> I never realized how much these guys shift their body mass by
doing their internal water changes. <<Indeed>> Back to the
reading! <<Excellent!>> Ryan Mullinax <<Regards, EricR>>
Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank IV - 04/27/06 One last
question, I promise. <<No worries mate>> Both of these fixtures
come with 14000K MH lamps. <<Yes>> All the reading I've been
doing suggests that a lower Kelvin rating is better. <<Agreed>>
Would these bulbs be better/worse/comparable to a 10000K bulb? <<The
10K bulb would be "optimum" in my opinion, but you can get by with the
14K for now and replace with a 10K when the time comes. And in case
you are wondering...the 150w DE lamp will be ideal on your 15" deep
tank>> Ryan Mullinax <<Cheers my friend, Eric Russell>>
Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank V - 04/27/06 150W DE lamp?
<<This is the wattage and type (DE or Double-End vs. SE or Single-End)
Metal Halide lamp in the fixtures I described previously. EricR>>
Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank VI - 04/27/06 Gotcha! Thanks
again Eric. <<No problem>> I'm breaking my promise and am going
to ask one more question. <<Alrighty>> How important are lunar
lights? <<They're not>> The fixtures I ordered (2 Coralife
Aqualight Advanced Tank-Mounts) don't have lunar lights. <<Nothing
to worry about...the current marketing rage>> I'm not concerned
about the fish spawning. Do lunar lights do anything for corals or are
they just for aesthetics? <<There has been some discussion/argument
for their value in inducing spawnings in both fish and corals...but they
are hardly essential to reef keeping. My opinion...they're there for
the "aquarist">> Thanks, Ryan <<Always welcome. EricR>>
Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank VII - 04/28/06 FYI, the
Coralife Aqualight was a month backordered from Marine Depot so I
ordered a 30 inch 2 X 150 HQI Metal Halide Power Compact w/ two 65 watt
Actinics from eBay. I got the 10,000k bulbs with this. <<Mmm, a
fixture with a single 150w bulb would have been fine on this tank...and
more economical. But your carpet anemone (do consider keeping this a
specie tank) can handle/will appreciate the intensity, just be sure to
acclimate it to the new lighting when it arrives: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimcrllgtfaqs.htm
>> Thanks for all the advice. Have a good one! <<Welcome, and
same to you my friend. EricR>> Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank
VIII - 04/28/06 My reasoning behind getting the two bulbs is
that this fixture has a fitting for an MH bulb on each end. So if I
only got one bulb one side of the tank would be shaded. <<Mmm,
no...a single MH bulb centered on this tank would have been fine. The
anemone; which should be on the substrate by the way, would have found
its optimum placement. But like I said before, two MH bulbs will also
work...just more than you needed>> I know I shouldn't keep a lot of
livestock that will fight with the anemone or that will get eaten by
it. I was thinking some LPS. Suggestions (or links) on what to/not to
keep in this tank? <<Your tank is really too small to consider
keeping corals with the anemone...these animals are measured in "feet"
at maturity. They also have the capacity to release nematocysts
(stinging cells) to the water column to sting other critters if they are
feeling crowded or threatened. Best not to tempt fate my
friend. Regards, EricR>> Lighting a 30" (Wide) Anemone Tank VIA
4/29/06 >> no...a single MH bulb centered on this tank would have
been fine.<< True, but the fixture I ordered had the MH bulbs on the
far ends so I couldn't have placed a single bulb over the center.
<<Understood...no worries my friend. Eric Russell>> Ryan Mullinax
Anemone lighting... other cnid. choices - 04/16/06 Dear Bob (or
whoever else might receive this FAQ), <Jodie here on this beautiful
afternoon> My tank has been fully cycled (for the 2nd time) for
about three weeks. It is 40 gallons and the current inhabitants include
a yellow tang, goby, and domino clownfish/damsel. <This is a domino
damsel (not clown) who, I hope you understand, will likely grow up to be
a holy terror.> I upgraded my lighting to 175 watt power compacts
with built in fans by JBJ. I want to add photosynthetic inverts such as
corals or an anemone. <I cannot/will not recommend an anemone to you
with this lighting.> In your opinion, which species of coral or
anemone would you recommend for my relatively immature system? <No
anemones, as they require stable systems and very intense
lighting. Some good beginner softies would be 'shrooms (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/corallim.htm)
or the ever-popular zoanthids (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/zoanthid.htm). Both
of these are pretty hardy, come in a variety of colors and sizes, and
would give you some good (and needed) experience before moving on to
more advanced-needs corals.> Thank you in advance. <And thank
you for letting me flex my spell-checking muscles. Cheerio, Jodie>
J. Ferrante
Re: Anemone lighting... other cnid. choices -
04/16/06 Thank you Jodie and just two more brief questions):
Isn't that enough light that I have- according to my calculations,
that's almost 5 watts per gallon? (well-- almost). To be exact - 4.
44444. Really, that isn't enough for an anemone? <This is a matter
of personal opinion/experience for me. I was advised that 3-5 watts per
gallon was needed, and yet both BTA and Condy failed to thrive. Added
MH and voila! Happy anemone. You could try it, but be prepared in case
of a similar scenario. You didn't mention the depth of your tank -- and
yes, this can make a difference.> Well thanks for making me aware of
that then. I guess you need halides for them. <Again, some may not
but in my experience I would recommend it wholeheartedly.> And
another thing- I read the pages you directed me to and is it ok to keep
polyps in high nitrate levels ( about 35 ppm). How can I get them down
if not? <Discussed at length on WWM. Read re: nitrates at
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nitratesmar.htm > Thanks again in
advance, JF <John, if you want anemones then you should
experiment with some hardy soft corals first, learn how to get/keep your
nitrates down, and read-read-read. Be aware that they have a tendency
to wander, stinging things along the way, and sometimes getting sucked
into powerheads (yes, killing everything in the tank). They are
beautiful and interesting, but also a huge commitment. Cheers, Jodie>
(ahha - used spell check this time-- sorry) <Much appreciated! jb>
Condylactis Lighting/Feeding - 02/22/06 I've read many of your
lighting/feeding articles and am having a little trouble determining if
my lighting/feeding is adequate for my giant Condy. <<Mmm,
ok...let's see if I can help.>> I have a 46 gal tank that's about 16
to 17" in depth. The Condy is situated in a crevice of rock at the
bottom of the tank. I have a light from a previous tank that overhangs
this tank a bit (it's a 4' light on a 3'tank). Since I already invested
in the light for a tank that cracked I really wanted to see if I could
continue to use it. <<I see>> Here are the specifications of the
light: Orbit 4 X 65 watt PC fixture. It contains SunPaq Dual
Daylight (10,000K & 6,700K), Dual Actinic (460nm & 420nm) and a Lunar
Light 2-65w Dual Daylight & 2-65w Dual Actinic lamps <<Ok, got
it...I think. This is probably "enough" light on this tank for the
Condy, though it would appreciate/benefit from replacing one of the
actinic bulbs with another daylight bulb.>> I run the Daylight
lights from 8:00am to 5:00pm and the Actinic lights from 7:00am to
6:00pm. I also have some Xenia in the tank that is growing nicely and
spreading. Other members include a large clown who came along with the
Condy, a goby, a cleaner shrimp, a hermit crab, and a reef lobster.
<<I'd keep an eye on the lobster...will likely dine on its tankmates
sooner or later.>> All get along nicely. <<For now>> I feed
small amounts twice a day. The clown rounds up as much shrimp and
formula 1 as it can and eagerly stuffs the food into the Condy. Should
I be feeding the Condy in addition to this? If so, what? <<If the
pieces are small enough...and you can truly ascertain the anemone is
ingesting the food (and keeping it in!), then fine, let the clown feed
the anemone. But much of the time, what the fish gives the anemone is
not really accepted even though it seems the anemone eats. These
animals really prefer food items much smaller than most people
realize. Do try target feeding "diced/minced" meaty foods (not brine
shrimp!) and see how the anemone responds. The Condy and clown are
new to the tank and look great! Thanks for your help - you folks are
great! Frank <<Welcome Frank. Regards, EricR>> Lighting
For Anemones - 2/21/2006 I want to keep a Bubble
Tip anemone down the road, but would like to invest in the lighting now.
I was looking at getting a power compact system with 4 55 watt bulbs (2
10 k ultra daylight and 2 ultra actinic blue) for a total of 220 watts
of light. The Bulbs would be mounted probably no more then an inch or so
above the water level. I have a 55 gallon aquarium. Do you
think that this would be a sufficient amount of lighting for the Bubble
Tip anemone or should I invest my money in something else? Thanks,
Ryan Madison/Milwaukee, WI <Well, Ryan, although I'm a big fan
of power compact lighting, I think that for better long-term success
with anemones, you'd be better served by investing in metal halide
lighting. Sure, you could keep many corals under low-mounted PC's; and
in fact, I've seen people successfully keep anemones under PC's, I'd
still recommend halides (preferably the double-ended variety) for more
flexibility. Conventional reef-keeping wisdom suggests that you could
compensate for less intense lighting with more feeding, I'd be inclined
to stick with the halides for the intensity and "bang-for-the-buck" that
they provide. Hope this helps! Regards, Scott F.> Lighting/Inverts
2/18/06 Hi, I have a 180 litre marine tank set up with 2
percula's and 2 yellow tailed damsel's. I have around 25 kg of live rock
and 2 finger leather corals. Water movement is 20x tank volume per hour
and I have a external with activated carbon and ROWAphos. My
lighting is 4 T5 bulbs, 3 of which are actinic and one blue. Would this
lighting be enough for me to introduce a Anenome? <If your tank is 18
inches or less deep, you should be able to keep a Bubble Tip Anemone. I
would replace three of the bulbs with 10K tubes. Other anemone species
will require a great deal more light. James (Salty Dog)> Regards
George
Anemones & VHO lighting 2/17/06
We are looking at dual 400 watt metal halides. Would that be sufficient
to light our tank? What would the ideal wattage be to keep anemones
happy? <The two 400's will be great. I'd go with 14K's. Keep in mind
with potent anemones such as the carpet/others you will be risking the
lives of your other fish. Eons ago I've kept carpets and have always
lost a fish or two to them. I'd try to select the least potent anemone
that the clowns will accept as a host but much, much better just to have
a species tank devoted to just clowns/anemones. Do read here on
clown/anemone compatibility. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_3/cav3i1/Clown_anemone/Clown_anemone.htm>
Thank you, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Jeri
Post-Purchase Sebae Anemone Lighting Questions 2/8/06
I have a 46g tank that has been running for almost a year. I recently
bought a Sebae anemone. I currently have 220 watts of lightning (PC,
Dual actinic and actinic blue). Would that be enough? <Ah, the
classic "Buy first, ask questions later" method, likely leading to more
unintentional animal deaths than anything else. Always, and I mean
ALWAYS do your research prior to making ANY purchase, lest you end up in
a situation such as yours. Granted, the jury is out on reef aquarium
lighting (and likely will always be), but 220 watts of Power Compact
lighting on a 46 really isn't sounding good to me at all - *especially*
for such a high-light creature as a Sebae Anemone. Assuming the anemone
has all of its Zooxanthellae, thrice-weekly feeding of silversides would
be recommended to keep the anemone in good health, and, if at all
possible, a lighting upgrade may be in order. However, and rater
unfortunately, most every sebae anemone offered for retail sale these
days is bleached or dyed - if yours is yellow or white, it's going to
need some extra TLC on top of all of that - daily feeding would
certainly not be out of the question, nor would a lighting upgrade. I'd
personally recommend nothing less than Metal halide lighting for any
anemone species, Aiptasia/Majanos not included, of course.> Thanks
for all your help. <Good luck with your new acquisition! Mike G>
Green tip anemone lighting 1/10/06 Hi All, <Hello
Brian> Thanks in advance for your time. I have a 100
gallon marine aquarium with a 10 gallon sump wet/dry filter, protein
skimmer, five fish and one green tip anemone. I have a small clown fish
that is housing in the green tip. My tank is built into a wall with
ventilation, but lighting/heat can be a problem. My water is fine,
but I am concerned about my lighting. After extensive research on your
site and the web, it seams the general recommendation is 3 to 6 watts
per gallon. Thus, for my tank I would need 400 watts (HOLY COW that is
a lot of light). Currently I have two 40 watt 50/50 florescent bulbs
and one blue fluorescent bulb, with all three being 4 feet long. What
are your recommendations? Am I good as is or should I make adjustments.
<No, you are not good. Your 120 watts of lighting relates to 1.2 watts
per gallon. Without knowing your tank dimensions I cannot suggest any
lighting. The depth of the tank is going to make a difference in the
lighting you need. James (Salty Dog)> Thanks again. <You're
welcome> Keep Diving! Brian Decker Re: Green tip
anemone lighting 1/11/06 Me again, <Me too>
The dimensions of my tank are 5 feet long and 24 inches deep and 14
inches wide. If you recommend alterations to the lighting armed with
the dimensions, then would I be able to use a light fixture from a
hardware store for VHO lamps? <If you don't plan on adding any SPS or
LPS corals you can get away with VHO with your tank depth. I'd go with
four 60" 140 watt VHO's. You would be better off to buy two VHO
ballasts that will handle two lamps each and buy two sets of end caps
with mounts from an online store such as Premium Aquatics or Drs. Foster
Smith. These run about $9 a pair. If you use the URI lamps they have a
built in 180 degree reflector so a internal reflector wouldn't be
needed. Your not going to find the color temperature lamps you need at
the hardware store, probably know this but thought I'd mention
it. Also, in future replies, do reply with the original content so I'm
able to see what I've mentioned.> I humbly defer
to your expertise, thanks.<You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Lighting - 01/03/2006 Greetings from St. George, UT. <And
from Bay City, MI> I like so many others am benefiting greatly from
your site. So right to the question. After reading hours worth of
information on your site, I'm still a little (lot) confused on
lighting. I am about to step up from a 30 gal marine tank to a 150
gal. Another one of my hobbies is cabinet making, so I'll be making
the aquarium stand to match the cabinets in the house. In doing
this, I plan on lighting with a retro fit system that I can build
right into the hood. I really want to concentrate on RBTA'S, with
very few other inverts and/or fish. Knowing this, what would you
recommend on lighting...HQI's, HO's etc. The tank measures 60"w X
24"d X 30"h. <Gary, with a 30" high tank you will definitely need to go
with HQI or MH. For keeping BTA's I'd probably go with three 175 watt
14K Metal Halides (14K).> Second question would be, what are the
components to complete a retro kit of what ever lighting system you
recommend. <For each unit you will need a MH 175 watt ballast, lamp
holder with reflector. Foster&Smith sells the lamp holders and ballasts
complete with plug and play cords leaving a professional looking install
with no wiring needed to be done by you.> Thanks in advance for your
assistance. <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Gary
Lighting/Anemones - 01/01/06 Hello everyone and happy holidays!
<<Happy holidays to you>> I have read and read everything I can
about lighting and seem to have gotten myself more confused. (My fault
not yours!) <<Mmm...I'll see if I can add to your confusion
<grin>.>> I have an existing 60g (mostly fish) and a 20g that has
some anemones <<!!!>> and mushrooms that I would like to combine
into my 60g. I realize that I will need to remove most of my fish
and I SHOULD NOT combine different anemones (this is another story).
<<An all too common one, sadly enough.>> I would like to know what
you suggest my lighting to be in the 60g so that I can plan this move
and be prepared from the start. Here is all the info I "think" you
need: I currently only have NO lighting on the 60g with the following
occupants: Coral Beauty (need to remove), Maroon (gold stripe) Clown
(need to remove), Yellow Head Jaw Fish, Engineer Goby (need to remove),
Chocolate Chip Star (either remove or place in refugium), Sea
Cucumber, Cleaner Shrimp, A few small hermits and one snail, 45+lbs live
rock, sump w/protein skimmer, and I just added a refugium.
<<Excellent>> My 20g has: 2 BTA w/2 small clowns (each "attached at
the fin" with one of the BTA's), 1 Caribbean Anemone, 1 Curlicue
Anemone, 1 brittle star, some mushrooms & button polyps, 1 flame
scallop, and a Blue Damsel. All I have for filtration is 20+lbs of
rock, two powerheads, and a Coralife 72w lighting (which I want to place
on my refugium). <<ok>> My plan/wish is to remove the fish that
I noted above from my 60, and add the BTA's, small clowns & damsel,
mushrooms, scallop & polyps, and the rock and sand to the
60g. Eventually I would like to add to this down the road with
organisms that are compatible. So, do you have a suggestion for the
type of lighting I need to upgrade to on my 60g? <<Assuming the
anemones will be the showcase, and thus of primary concern, I would opt
for a pair of 150w DE metal halides. Or, if the dimension of the tank
is such as to accommodate...a single 150w DE metal halide.>> I am in
the process of building a canopy so I can use retro fit lighting
kits. My budget is $300 for now, <<About right for a single MH
retro kit w/ballast.>> but I would be open to building it in a way
to add lighting as I go. Side note: I have since realized that I should
not mix anemones and will not do so moving forward. <<Very good
to hear.>> But, for some reason they all play nice in the 20g.
<<Tis a time bomb...>> By this I mean they have all grown since
placed in tank (the BTA's & fish came with the established tank when I
acquired it 2 months ago), never moved, and the Caribbean has slowly
darkened in color from white to light brown. The tank came with NO
lighting and I added the Coralife a month ago. <<Helpful, but really
still not enough.>> I am just wondering if I should leave well
enough alone and keep them all together in the 20g??? <<I
wouldn't...do continue with your plan.>> Anyway, thank you for the
help and I hope this was not too long in getting my point across.
<<Not at all mate.>> Jim Phx, AZ <<Regards, EricR...Cola,
SC>>
Reptile bulbs for anemones? - 11/25/2005 Hello,
<Hello> I had just sent you an email regarding my plan for a 16
gallon reef tank. It is to have 2 Percula Clowns (mated
pair). I am planning on keeping a Carpet Anemone in it as a host for my
Perculas. <Bad idea. Carpet anemones get 3 feet in diameter and
more. Defiantly NOT a small tank anemone. Try smaller anemones like
true rock anemones (not the tiny nuisance anemones they are around 6
inched in diameter and easier to keep in small tanks. I really think if
you did have an anemone in that tank it would become a clown fish tank
and that’s it. They are very territorial around their host and may kill
any tank mates in such a small tank. Please reconsider.> I have
heard that I need about 4 watts/gallon for adequate lighting. <This
is very low for any anemone especially a carpet anemone, and the rule of
watts per gallon is not really reliable.> So 64 watts would make
sense but can I put a 100 watt bulb (too much?!?!) on also it has a
night light on it (once used for an anole). What would be your
recommendations on how to use this? Thanks <No, reptile lighting
and standard light bulbs for humans are NOT suitable for any saltwater
use. Please look into compact fluorescent lighting at 2x96 watts for
that tank. Anemones need extremely high levels of light, and the carpet
is no exception. If you absolutely must have an anemone that is the
minimum to have first for lighting. But I caution you to
reconsider. Anemones need pristine water quality and are very hard to
keep in any aquarium, much less small tanks.> <Justin> Re:
Carpet Anemone Lighting - 11/26/2005 Hello, Thanks for the
quick response. I reconsidered and have decided to get a fake or
synthetic one. <<Mmm, would do "without" personally...but probably
better than the alternative. EricR>> Ball of Confusion..
Lighting confusion, re BTAs 11/15/05 Hey crew, <Clare>
This is a curiosity question that has been bothering me. Ok it is about
the watts per gallon, for inverts. <Only a very general "rule of
thumb"> I was thinking (kind of a confusing question, but bear with
me) isn't a BTA the same in a 100 gallon as in a 30 gallon, so say you
have 110 watts of VHO on your 30 which is about 4 watts per gallon, and
400 watts of MH on the 100 which is 4 watts per gallon, wouldn't this
BTA not care about the tank size, but recognize the difference in the
light? <This "rule" is related to some sort of typical depth per
gallon of systems, light reaching animals near the bottom...> I mean
I am sure the BTA doesn't care about watts per gallon but it cares about
the quality of light it is getting right? <Quality, quantity and
duration> I know this is kind of confusing but I was just
wondering.... Thanks, Clare <Please see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/index.htm scroll down to
the articles, FAQs on Anemone Systems, Lighting... Bob Fenner>
Anemone Lighting 11/1/05 Howdy Gang, <Hi Dana, Adam J with you
here tonight.> I am currently in the contemplating stage of "If I get
A, will I need/want to upgrade to B in 6 months?" <Mmm…I’m sure
there’s a good joke in there, I must need some sleep. Honestly it really
depends on your current wants and if you expect them to change. Mine did
with my tank and yes I have had to pay for the upgrades.> Well, I
have seen the big picture with my new 65 gallon acrylic setup. I want a
FOWLR but have the lighting capabilities to be successful with some
beginner/hardy anemones down the road. <Well to be honest, in my
opinion, there are no hardy/beginner anemones most perish within six
months in captivity. Be sure to do lot and lots and lots of research
before purchase.> I am not looking to spend an arm and a leg but
want to keep that anemone option available. (Is $400 reasonable?)
<Less than what I spent on my lighting, reasonable is rather relative,
depends on how “addicted”/into the hobby you are; are you “hardcore” or
casual? What type of lighting system is in question is also an important
detail and most importantly which animals you wish to keep/targeted by
your lighting.> The tank is something like 48"L x 18"W x 18" H (Silly
metric tanks!). <Hey, Hey now…us Americans don’t take to kindly to
those kind of thoughts little missy……there you got a joke out of me.>
I've read and read, and read some more, and with each FAQ I read, I get
pulled to another type of lighting. I understand the different types of
lighting available (great resources here!) but I want to make sure I am
being as knowledgeable and responsible before killing something my
system wasn't capable of supporting. I live in Japan and my
electricity bill can be hefty, so I am looking for effective lighting
that won't overheat the rooms and send electricity bills sky high.
Ideally, I'd like to get a complete hood I can suspend (I think they
look sharp!). <I agree.> So here is my dilemma. Do I go with one
of the combos with a 150HQI and 2x65 CF? All CF lighting...4x65...4x95?
I've read for FOWLR systems 5:1 is OK but with Reef tanks, 5-10:1 is
needed. <Well if you want to attempt anemones I really like the
lighting system with the 150 watt HQI.> Finally, I have seen in some
pictures on the net hoods that are 1/2 the length of the tank. Can I do
this if I meet the needed ratio? For example, If I can get a 36" that
meets the ratio, would that be acceptable, or do I need a unit that
reaches the entire length of the tank? <It’s okay to have a lighting
system that is shorter than the tank if its suspended with an efficient
reflector, I’m thinking of pendants MH pendants here really not
fluorescence (though generally when using one metal halide bulb you
should choose one per every 24”, so 2 would be better for your tank).>
Thank you again for the help and hope the FAQ crew makes the millions
they are worth! <Thank you for the kind words. We keep getting raises
but the pay stays the same! Ok……you got 2 jokes. The pay is being able
to help folks like you in need and watching you succeed.
Self-satisfaction or ego-food as I like to call it is the best pay of
all.> Dana Tokyo, Japan <You are welcome, Adam J.>
Magnificent/Ritteri Anemone Lighting 10/31/05 Hello, <Hi
Ben.> At the moment my lighting consists of 2x150w 10k MH's and
1x150w 20k MH in between. Also a t8 blue for first on last off. I have a
Ritteri and wondered if this lighting was ok. <Mmm, maybe. To be
honest the only time I ever saw a healthy Ritteri was directly under a
250 watt metal halide (single ended) but the HQI’s are quite efficient
so it may be enough. Having said that the lighting may or may not matter
in this case as the anemone rarely adapts to captivity anyway.> The
lights are 9" off the water surface and the anemone is 6" below the
surface. I also have 50k bulbs which could be used instead of the
10k's.Which Kelvin do anemones prefer? <Most photosynthetic
organisms prefer lighting in the 6500K to 10000K range.> any advice
is great, thank you. <Quite Welcome.> Ben Hustwayte <Adam J.>
Please help with anemone.... 10/25/05 Okay here is what I have:
45 gal tank 14 inch wide 19 inch deep 36 inch long Lighting:
Coralife compact fluorescent and lunar Aqualight which includes: One 96
watt True Actinic and One 96 watt 10,000k fluorescent. 40+ lbs live
rock three false percula clowns some mushrooms green star
polyps cleaner shrimp Just purchased what I was told to be a green
carpet anemone (I guess it is, not sure though as no pictures really
look very close to mine) Anyway my question: After reading many posts
on your site I have come to the conclusion that I should not have
purchased this anemone. <AGREED> Needless to say it has been
about a week and the anemone seems to have gotten a lot of its color
back from when I got it but it is kind of shrinking up and not looking
so good. <your lightening is only 2 watts per gallon, 4-6 is usually
recommended and halide lightening is a must, I would return the specimen
ASAP or find someone who can properly take care of it> LFS told me
that I have enough lighting for it. <they lied> <<Ian, you
cannot disparage here, the person may have simply been mistaken.
MH>> Is this true? Also, could the star polyps be affecting
the anemone already? <probably not the carpet anemone is one mean
creature!> (chemical warfare). Not sure if I should give this back
to the store as they will probably kill it also or just leave it and
hope for the best. <It will die either way try to find someone
nearby that has an established reef aquarium with halides and VHOs they
may be able to save this poor creature! IanB> Lighting 10/3/05 Good Morning, I have a 55 gallon
tank that currently has 2 65 watt 50/50 pc. I want to upgrade that
setup so that I can have soft coral, some hard corals, and hopefully
an anemone. I've been looking at a setup that has 4 96watt power
compacts 50/50. Would that be enough light for the kinds of creatures
I've described? Would I be better off spending a few extra dollars
and get a fixture that included pc and metal halides? <Anne, that
fixture will give you plenty of light for what you intend to keep (7.2
watts per gallon). I like the looks of halide/PC lighting myself. Not a
good idea to keep anemones with corals as anemones will and do move and
will sting along the way. James> Thank you Anne Canfield
Not the typical anemone lighting question 10/2/05
Hey Crew, <Hey Bryan> Everybody always asks, "Is this enough
lighting?" Hey I have even asked that before, but what I am really
looking for is "for how long? I have a 55 gal with 4x96w power
compact with 4 lunar lights. How many hours should I run at full
blast, half lit, and just lunar? <Depends on what your keeping. Ten
hours would be my starting point for corals/anemones. Just to insert
something here, its not recommended to keep corals/anemones
together. Lunar lighting is purely aesthetic. Here is an article you
can read. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/setup/lighting/
Thanks, <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Bryan Lighting Anemones 9/23/05 Hey guys, Bryan here again.
<Hey Bryan-Scott F. with you!> I have read and read and read and
keep finding different levels required for lighting 55 gal with 2
LTA's (beautiful, I might add, and the Clarkii has claimed them both) I
have been told that I don't have enough. I have 2 - 110w VHO Actinic
lights, one is blue and the other is white. That puts me a 4w per
gallon; I do have the equipment to add an additional 60w of light (30w
Blue and 30w full spec). That would put me just over 5w/gal. Should I
add these lights, and is that sufficient enough? <I've always
tried to avoid "watts per gallon" measurements, but it sounds like
you're on the right track here. My thoughts on lighting anemones are
short and sweet- As much lighting as you can offer! Obviously, the other
aspects of husbandry, such as water quality, etc. are important, too.>
Also, one last question, should I worry about a little string matter
than comes from the foot of the anemones. <I would not be overly
concerned, unless there are large quantities of this stuff and the
animal appears otherwise declining. This is probably just some mucus
from the attachment point of the anemone and is nothing to be overly
concerned with.> Thanks, Bryan <My pleasure! Regards, Scott F.>
Lighting options for an anemone - 9/16/05 I am looking
for an affordable light solution to keep anemones in my 72 gal bow
front. My 2 40w bulbs that came standard never maintain an anemone for
more than a couple weeks. <Very sad actually. I would definitely upgrade
if you can afford it> I have seen Jebo light systems on sale with 4
65w bulbs (2 daylight/2 actinic) included for as low as 115.00. <Not
sure this ideal either.> Are these Jebo units what you would consider
average or better? <Not exactly familiar with that particular brand but
the lighting requirements of anemones is really what we are after, eh?>
The price seems much cheaper than Coralife or Current units, and I would
rather wait if need be than to get the Jebo and not have it do what I
need. <Exactly. First do research the type of anemone you would like to
keep. A good start can be found here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemones.htm
then look for a light to meet the requirement. Price can become an issue
then but not before. Personally I keep anemones under halide lighting
(PFO Lighting systems) and have even had reproduction to full fledged
adults under this lighting. Please be aware that feeding is also
extremely important to the longevity of anemone keeping. Let us know if
there are still more questions. ~Paul> Thanks Gary
Anemone lighting 8/25/05 I need help finding a cheap
light for an anemone. I want it to be effective for my 2 clowns. Its
a 55 gallon tank 48'' long. I was wondering if you knew any place to
buy them online or in New York for less than $100 because I just
wanted to get an anemone and now I have to spend loads of money on
different filters and lights and the anemone itself. I'm 14 and
paying for everything myself so I need to be as careful with my
money as possible. Thank You <Marshall, I know of no place where you
can get the lighting required to support an anemone for less than a
$100, even building it yourself. You might do a search on metal
halides. I've heard people getting used pendants for under $100, but
then you would still have to buy an appropriate bulb for it....about
$80-90 bucks. James (Salty Dog)>
BTA and Lighting 8/9/05 Hi there, I was wondering what
you would recommend lighting wise for a BTA in a 55 gallon tank (18
in deep) because I know how you can't always go by a watt per
gallon method. I had tried to find an answer on your web site and
found one question that was close to mine. You had recommended 4x96
watt PC Lighting for the BTA in a 55 gallon tank, but my question
was about the Orbit fixture made by Current. I was wondering if
you had any thoughts on this fixture in comparison to other PC's. I
have read places that this fixture gives off much more light when
compared to other lighting fixtures. If this is true I was
wondering if you thought I could use the 4x65 watt Orbit fixture or
do you still recommend getting the 4x96 watt fixture. Thanks for all
of your help. Dan <Of these choices, I would go with the four 96
watters. Bob Fenner>
Anemone lighting 7/15/05 Hey guys, I'm writing to you on
the topic of my Long Tentacle Anemone. I got him about 2 months ago.
I put it in the tank to wander and find a good spot. Well it picked
the lowest part of my tank. My tank is 29 gal 18 inches deep with
130 watts pc lighting. I feed it almost everyday with Mysid shrimp bits.
<... this is all?> He has doubled in size since I bought it and has
got a more deep brown-green color. I assume he's healthy? My
question is Should I upgrade my lights since 130 watts is a bit
dismal? The anemone expands huge everyday then slowly retracts its
self at night. Thanks for your time. -Aaron <Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner> Lighting An LTA - 06/08/05 I recently (about 3 weeks ago)
purchased a Long Tentacle Anemone. My tank is only 18 inches deep and
the anemone is 4-5 inches off the bottom of the tank. I hear that these
anemones take SO MUCH light. <<For long-term care/good health,
yes.>> Well I feed mine twice a week with Selcon soaked raw shrimp
chunks, and he's doing awesome. <<Good to hear, though the anemone
will appreciate/feed better on fine minced pieces rather than
"chunks.">> I got him in the tank and stuck it into a hole I thought
suitable and within the next day it was anchored and fully expanded to
twice his LFS size. I also noticed that he was a fluorescent green
color under my lights, and under LFS lights it was dull brown. My
question is should I move it up higher or leave it where it is
comfortable? It is under one 65-daylight PC and one 55-actinic PC.
<<Do consider the reason the anemone is making itself bigger is because
it is trying to "get what it can't" from an inadequate light
source. Not saying this is definitely the case, but I would recommend
switching out the actinic bulb for another daylight bulb, or better yet
ADD another daylight bulb. And I would not try to move the
anemone...too easy to cause damage. As a motile invertebrate it will
find its own place.>> Also would this anemone co-exist with
frogspawn coral (without of reach of the frogspawns runners of course)?
or would a chemical battle be under way? <<Chemical aggression is
always an issue...as is physical contact when/if the anemone decides to
relocate. Anemones are best kept/cared for in specie specific
tanks. And unless the tank is very large (hundreds of gallons, and even
then not always so), only one to a tank please. Consider having a look
here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ltafaqs.htm and at the associated links
in blue.>> <<Regards, Eric R.>> Lighting for BTA 4/28/05
Dear Mr. Fenner, I just recently purchased a new 48” compact light 2 x
65w Actinic and 2 x 65w 10,000k. I have a 75 gallon tank 48L x 18W x
20D. I have 60 lbs of live sand and 50 lbs of live rock. I have read
most of your articles about Bubble Tips and some answers are close to
what I need so I want to be sure. Will the light that I purchased be
enough for a Bubble Tip Anemone to survive? <It is enough for the
anemone to survive, but it may not maintain it's bright color. Also, as
always, be sure to feed a marble sized piece of meaty seafood about once
a week.> I have another 48” fluorescent fixture that I can put on it
but it would only add 80 more watts. What would you recommend? <I
would suggest using the additional light as long as heat does not become
a problem.> My next question is how long should the lights stay on.
Currently I leave the 10,000k with the Actinic on during the day and
just the Actinic on at night? Is this correct or should I turn the
lights completely on and off for day and night? <Fish and corals
need a period of darkness. A total photoperiod of about 12 hours is
usually good. You can use multiple timers to stagger the time that
different lights come on and off, but you should have at least 10 hours
when all of the lights are off (some background room lights are OK.)>
My fiancée and I are really enjoying the tank and all of the creatures
that seem to be growing out of the live rock. Anemones would really
complete the tank. Your site is the most informational I have found
yet. Thanks for all of your efforts and advice. Grant Citron
Lafayette, LA <Thanks and Best Regards. AdamC.> Anemone
Lighting Hi, So I suppose the only choice I really have is the
BTA ? Is there a preference to which colour of BTA it is and will
make them want to host it more ? <Dana, as stated below, your
present lighting isn't enough for even the BTA. Read some of the FAQ's
on anemone lighting.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm
Thanks <You're welcome> ----- Original Message ----- > Anemones
> Hi, Is there a host anemone for the Amphiprion ocellaris that doesn't
grow more than 1 foot in diameter and can handle PC lighting 3-4
watts of light per gallon (tank 26inches deep) and is pretty hardy?
<Unfortunately, with the 26 inch depth of your tank, there are no
anemones you could keep with your lighting. Thanks <You're
welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Anemone Husbandry Hey
whassup, Its Miles again <Scott F. at the keyboard today!> I
have a question to ask y'all. I have a 55 gallon reef tank. I have a
power compact light and it has 2 bulbs. The blue bulb is 60 watts and so
is the white bulb. So this leads you to the question. Would a Haddoni
carpet anemone live in the kind of light that I have. <In my opinion,
probably not. You really need intense light for these animals. Granted,
I like PC's and think that they are great, but I believe that they are
inadequate for long-term well-being of anemones. These animals require
intense light, which is best supplied by... you guessed it- metal
halides! In my opinion, the expense of metal halides is justified, and
should be thought of as the "price of admission" for the husbandry of
anemones. Think long-term when keeping these animals, as their potential
life span in the wild is decades, perhaps even centuries, according to
some studies. The aquarium survival rate of these animals in the
long-term is, unfortunately, quite dismal, so we need to do everything
possible to provide optimum environmental parameters for them.> I was
planning on putting it at the top of my aquarium. <A good thought
with PC lighting. However, the animal will reposition itself to a place
of its own choosing.> I currently have 2 clownfish that will use it
when it arrives. So I was just wondering if it would live if I put it at
the top. <Well, "live"-yes- assuming that the other environmental
conditions are in order. "Thrive"- questionable...Not impossible- just
questionable. We really need to consider the long-term needs of these
animals when planning for their husbandry.> If it won't which I hope
that it will live, how many more watts do I need to sustain that
anemone? <Not so much a "watts" issue as it is an intensity issue.
I'd think about a 150watt metal halide pendant (Like a Sunlight Supply
Reef Optix III double-ended or a PFO model). Metal halides provide
maximum and optimal intensity for photosynthesis.> Best Regards,
Miles <My pleasure, Myles. Good luck! Regards, Scott F.> Anemone
Technicalities I have spent weeks researching anemones, and
they're all just advice. But in terms of BTA, RBTA's and more common
anemone species, they don't go in depth about the PAR requirements...the
pH requirements, the appropriate temperatures, the distance from the
light etc. etc. I'm looking for more technical aspects of anemone
care...I go to a reef forum that always has newbies who always wants to
keep an anemone. We give them the general advice, but more advanced
reefers are more difficult to advise as they feel they are more
knowledgeable but I would like to provide information that will provide
an anemone with an environment where they would THRIVE and possibly live
to the species lifespan, not just survive. Many argue that you can keep
them in 50/50's and PC's, but I'm a firm believer that natural sunlight
and MH should be the only options (in terms of responsible reefkeeping)
that an anemone should be kept under, but I would like more technical
information to back up why so any help would be great. Thanks. Tro
>>> Greetings, Be happy to lend what I can, but I'm curious about
something. You say you lack the "technical" info, yet you're of the
opinion that they should only be kept under metal halides? I'm just
wondering what empirical data or train of thought you are basing that
on? Also, just out of curiosity, what forum do you speak of? At the end
of the day, EVERYTHING we keep should be kept in natural sunlight, even
the fish. That is after all what they've evolved under for millions of
years. ANYTHING else is artificial, be it metal halide or PC lighting. I
can type at length about theoretical advantages to keeping any animal in
sunlight vs. artificial light, at the end of the day though it's just
theory. The bottom line is that keeping animals under natural sunlight
isn't practical for most of us obviously, so we pursue other options. I
prefer metal halides for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is
that it's the most natural looking of all the options. However, I don't
use it because I think it's the ONLY way to keep my anemones happy. I
know that intensity or PAR is more important than the ultimate source of
the light in question. PC lighting does a fine job of giving certain
organisms what they need, as long as there is a sufficient quantity of
it. But WHAT is that quantity? For E. quadricolor, the practical reality
is that they not only do well, but grow and thrive under a wide variety
of setups. It's quite adaptable in both the green and rose color morphs.
It will live directly under 400w halides, but doesn't always need them.
It will live and grow under a 200W PC setup depending on the depth that
it's placed. I've seen them live and thrive under a wide variety of
conditions from 7 gallon nano tanks with 60 watt lighting to fancier
setups with multiple 400 watt or 250 watt HQI fixtures. They are found
quite deep in the wild often enough, under PAR conditions that are far
LESS than what we place them in when they arrive in our systems. It's
for this reason that you will not find any hard, black and white data on
PAR requirements and such. Much of it depends on the individual animal,
where it was collected or what conditions it was grown under in
captivity. I've seen E. quads live for many months in relatively low
light setups, then get placed under a 400 watt halide and then reach up
for even MORE light, when they displayed no such tendency under the
lower wattage PC setup. Kind of counterintuitive, but I've seen this
happen. I can't tell you how far away to keep it from the bulb, as
that all depends on what bulb you're speaking of. Also, it's rather hard
to strive for a "natural" lifespan when you're speaking of an animal
that is basically immortal in the wild. In short, I cannot provide you
with any ammunition to back up your "metal halide only" stance, as it's
really not the bottom line truth of the matter from either from an
empirical or theoretical standpoint. Any acceptable PAR range that I
give you would be rather wide, and for that reason almost useless. I'm
looking at a tank right now with 6 E. quads, and 3 of them have chosen
some relatively shaded areas to reside, while the other three are more
or less under the halides. Feeding is another area where there is
much debate. Some of the nicest E. quads that I have seen are almost
NEVER fed. I feed because I think I should, and obviously every animal
needs to eat. However just as with many corals, how much food the animal
needs to be fed directly depends on who you talk to. I will say that
I've seen splitting as a common stress response to being over-fed in
captivity. Good luck Jim<<< What Anemone With This
Lighting? Dear Crew, You guys rock! I have a quick
lighting question for you. I have a 29 gal 30x12x18. Live Rock and live
coral tank that I am just starting. I have a Power Compact Coralife
Aqualight 30" 1x65 watt light. Would I be able to house any types of
anemones with this? If not, what kind of lighting should I add to
accomplish this? Thank you. <Devin, you would need 2x65watts
preferably both 10K tubes. You would be able to keep a bubble tip with
that set up. Check the Anemone FAQ's for more input. James (Salty Dog)>
BTA Lighting Hi, I have a 170 gal marine tank which is 5ft L by
26inch deep and was wondering is 400watts enough lighting (2x 150 watt
halides and 2 x 48watt daylights) for a BTA and most corals? <The
lighting set up you describe sounds perfectly adequate to keep a BTA and
pretty much any photosynthetic coral. Check out the following link for
more information on Bubble Tipped Anemones and their care (including
lighting requirements)
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/bubbletipanemones.htm.
Good luck, Mike G.> Lighting/Anemone Hi Crew, <Hello
Bill, James carrying the ball this time.> Recently I have been
reading the FAQ's on Anemones as I have become interested in keeping
one. As always there seems to be many conflicting opinions on how much
light one needs to keep an anemone healthy. Therefore, I am seeking the
opinion of one of you to help me out. Currently I have a 90 Gallon
setup for about 18 months with fish and live rock. I have a 6" sandbed
that has kept my nitrates to near zero for quite a while now. The tank
in general is in great shape. There is a nice population of pods and all
inhabitants are doing very well. At the present I have a power compact
fixture on the tank. It has 2 55W 50/50 power compacts in it. From what
I read, this would not be enough light to keep a BTA. Is this correct?
Some of the FAQ's seemed to hint that this could be enough light if the
BTA positioned itself high enough in the water column, but I'd rather be
safe and go with a little more light. <Yes, anemones do move.>
I'm looking at going with a new power compact fixture that houses 4
bulbs rather than the 50/50's. I think this would give me double the
amount of light I'm getting now. JEBO 48" 220W(55wx4) Power Compact
lighting. I would include 2 55W 10000K Super Daylight and 2 55W ultra
Actinic. <I would go with one ultra actinic and the other three at
10K> Will this increase my lighting enough to safely keep a BTA, or
do you have another suggestion? <With a deep tank as yours, you will
be borderline. Do you have room to incorporate the old fixture and the
new? This should do it. I'll post some info on this. You may have not
read these.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/inverts/cnidaria/anthozoa/anemonelightngfaqs.htm
> Thanks, Bill <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Flower Anemone lighting? Hey guys and gals <Bryan>
First question in a long time from me, my tank has been doing well,
as have I. <Good> About 8 months ago I built a canopy and
installed 175watt Metal halides. The whole time we have had a tank
my wife has wanted an anemone, and since I finally felt I had the
light for it I bought a flower anemone. I have attached a picture.
Anyway, to make a long story short I could not deal with the Metal
halide lights due to excessive heat, evaporation and a real problem
with hair algae anywhere the light actually shined on. For those
reasons I got rid of the metal halides and went back to my
Fluorescent lights the tank came with. They are Coralife 50/50 20
watt bulbs, 2 of them. <... in how deep a tank? You switched
these out... cold turkey I take it> Now on to the question. The
anemone seems happy, it's been a couple of months now with the
fluorescents, and it seems fine. <All right> It has stayed in
one place ever since I got it. When I got rid of the MH's I tried to
remove it without success, its foot or base is deep in a hole in the
biggest rock in my tank (size of a cinder block) Will this light
support it long term? If not what is the minimum amount of light I
can get away with and of what type. Thanks, and I enjoy the site
Bryan Flanigan <Mmm, well the animal is badly bleached out... but
with good supplemental feeding (chunky, meaty foods... about twice a
week) all should work out. Bob Fenner> <Marina says, "Hello,
Bry!"> | 
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