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FAQs about Elegance Coral Behavior
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elegance coral acting very strange
PLEASE HELP! No useful info., or reading 7/23/08
Recently purchased an elegance coral and it looked great for about
the first
two days (see the first picture). On the third day it stayed shriveled
up and
never opened at all. But now for the past two days it has been GIGANTIC
and
SWOLLEN! (see second picture). Please assist as to why it is behaving
this
way. THANKS!
- G
<Uhh, these images show the colony placed on what appears to be a
sterile substrate, and up on some sort of coral skeleton/rock... You
need to read re this species habitat, care... A link in a bit.
Catalaphyllias do expand/contract due to certain stimuli... in response
to other Cnidarians, foods, changes in water quality... You present no
data re.
Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/elegance.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>
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Re: weird frogspawn coral
question... hlth. f' 3/12/08
Hi Bob,
<Ken>
Here is an update on the frogspawn coral situation.
I have discontinued the use of powered aragonite and purple-up in my top off
water.
<Good>
I have reverted back to using my wonderful tap water, which has a pH of 8.1 and
is hard enough to leave lime deposits on my pot plants.
<Wow! Like ours here in S. Cal... we affectionately label it "liquid rock">
One of these days I will test the calcium and KH to see what it is. I do know
that there are no excessive phosphate and nitrate levels in the water. The
reservoir the tap water comes from here is over an ancient limestone deposit
which used to be ocean floor; explains the extreme parameters.
Anyway, back to the coral. Not wanting to disturb the livestock, I decided to
wait a while longer and see if the frogspawn would improve or start wasting
away. The color has continued to darken and intensify. In my opinion the coral
is much prettier now than when I received it. A few tentacles are still falling
off, but new ones are growing back from the center of the polyps.
<Good signs>
Also, each of the 5 polyps has divided and now has two mouths. I think it is
still too early to make a final decision but I think it may have been the light
causing the weird response. If the new tentacles start to drop and the coral
does not "stabilize", I will most likely remove the galaxy coral, as I like the
frogspawn much better.
<Did you read on WWM re Oculinids... are big winners in the sting-competition
realm>
As for the 40 lbs of live rock, it is the dense Florida rock, but I do have the
tank quite full. You can never have too much live rock. (I even added another
small piece three days ago with some sort of unidentified SPS coral on it.)
Thank you for your last response, it was most helpful.
Regards,
Ken
<Welcome! BobF>
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Elegance Coral - secreting
white cotton like substance...
11/12/07
Hi,
Thank you for maintaining a very informative site that provides extremely useful
information to beginner like me.
I recently bought an Elegance coral, I put it on the bottom of the tank as many
of your articles suggested, and I tried to place it as far away as possible from
the lighting. Since I put it in the tank, it started secreting some white stuff
from a few of its mouths. The white stuff looks like cotton balls, pretty white
in color (no brown stuff so far) and dense, and occasionally white slimy stuff.
When I put the Elegance in the tank, my cleaner shrimp checked it out. It was
pretty detailed,
<?>
and it pushed its claws into each of the mouths.
I am not sure if it caused the problem. I tried to search your site, I saw most
problems were related to brown stuff, but mine is white.
The coral never fully opens. Is it some kind of a disease?
<How long have you had this animal? What other livestock/cnidarians esp. are
present? What re your water quality? What have you tried feeding it?>
Should I dip it in SeaChem Coral Dip (the only medication I have now)?
<... no>
I also have an Open Brain before the Elegance.
<Oh!>
The Open Brain used to open very well.
<How far away is this colony?>
From the day I have the Elegance in the water, the Open Brain seems to open less
as large as previously, and it has been hiding its tentacles so far.
<Ah yes>
Is the Elegance secreting some kind of chemical that affects other corals?
<Oh YES!>
Thanks in advance for your help!
Simon
<Look on WWM, the wider Net re mesenterial filaments, sweeper tentacles... of
Caryophyliids... compatibility of Cnidarians... you have a battle going on here.
Bob Fenner> Re:
Elegance Coral - secreting white cotton like substance... still not
reading... 11/13/07
> Hi,
> Thank you for maintaining a very informative site that provides
extremely useful information to beginner like me.
> I recently bought an Elegance coral, I put it on the bottom of the
tank as many of your articles suggested, and I tried to place it as far
away as possible from the lighting. Since I put it in the tank, it
started secreting some white stuff from a few of its mouths. The white
stuff looks like cotton balls, pretty white in color (no brown stuff so
far) and dense, and occasionally white slimy stuff. When I put the
Elegance in the tank, my cleaner shrimp checked it out. It was pretty
detailed,
> <?>
[The shrimp was all over it including the mouths. I would be very happy
if my clown does the same instead of the shrimp.
<... no... It would be consumed>
The condition of the Elegance is getting worse and it is completely
closed, some tentacles are being bitten off by the shrimp and I can see
them floating in the water! I can now see the white stuff between the
skeleton and the flesh. May be I have an aggressive cleaner shrimp.
This is not the first time, I have a frogspawn.
<... ! You didn't mention this...>
Please forgive my ignorance if I got it completely wrong. On the
frogspawn, there is a small area like a small volcano. There are some
really small tentacles inside it and they move in and out to drag food
inside. The shrimp actually pull the poor little thing out
<?>
and now I think it is left with an empty shell, though the frogspawn
seems to be ok.]
> and it pushed its claws into each of the mouths.
> I am not sure if it caused the problem. I tried to search your site, I
saw most problems were related to brown stuff, but mine is white.
> The coral never fully opens. Is it some kind of a disease?
> <How long have you had this animal? What other livestock/cnidarians
esp. are present? What re your water quality? What have you tried
feeding it?>
[I only have it for 3 days. I have a clown, a cleaner shrimp, a
frogspawn, a open brain and a few snails. I also had a Sailfin until
this morning!
<Killed by the stony coral interaction...>
It was doing very ok on the day I introduced the Elegance. It was very
relax searching for food, it was eating, and it was not shy at all. Its
condition suddenly went very bad, breathing very rapidly and then died
within hours. Could it be the chemical from the Elegance?
<Yes...>
I also noticed the water get a bit foggy during the past two days. The
water parameters was perfect, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, Ca, KH, pH are
all at the recommended level for reef the day before I have the
Elegance. I can't imagine they can change drastically within 3 days.]
<Not the root cause here. What is? Your jamming incompatible life...>
> Should I dip it in SeaChem Coral Dip (the only medication I have now)?
> <... no>
> I also have an Open Brain before the Elegance.
> <Oh!>
> The Open Brain used to open very well.
> <How far away is this colony?>
[They are at least 6 inches apart. I did not see any tentacles that
can reach that far.]
<Euphylliids need to be placed a foot or more apart... their sweeper
tentacles can reach this far... mesenterial filaments can break off,
chemical allelopathy go throughout the system...>
> From the day I have the Elegance in the water, the Open Brain seems to
open less as large as previously, and it has been hiding its tentacles
so far.
> <Ah yes>
> Is the Elegance secreting some kind of chemical that affects other
corals?
> <Oh YES!>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
> Simon
> <Look on WWM, the wider Net re mesenterial filaments, sweeper
tentacles... of Caryophyliids... compatibility of Cnidarians... you have
a battle going on here. Bob Fenner>
[I can't deal with chemical warfare in my nano. I just move the Elegance
to a QT and I have to decide the next step. I am not even sure if it can
survive since it is completely close. Another lesson I guess!
Thanks.]
<... too cavalier. Read here (don't write):
http://wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm
and the linked files above. BobF> |
Elegance Coral Worry... Worries are a Waste! 1/27/07
Hello Bob,
<Hello Jason, Mich with you today.>
I hope you can help me out a little bit here. I just have a question or two for
you. Yesterday I received a new elegance coral, and it acclimated to the tank
really well. I did a slow acclimation over about a two hour period. The coral is
about 4 to 5 inches across, with 5 or 6 mouths on it. It truly is a beautiful
specimen. (which is why I bought it)
I have read your home page article on elegance, and all of the frequently asked
questions and answers. There is some great advice in there, thank you.
<Glad you found it helpful.>
There is one thing that I saw mentioned in a couple of places, but no one really
asked and you didn't mention it anywhere, so I am asking, because it is
happening to me on day two. my elegance coral is/has "spit" a blackish/brownish
substance from its mouths.
<Likely waste products... literally potty mouth!>
Now, I am new to having corals, and I have been afraid to get them, hearing that
they are difficult to take care of, but I decided to get a few, they were all
listed as easy........ I tried to research (as I always do on everything I do),
but I guess this time, I didn't do enough on this one.
<Research is key to success in this hobby.>
anyways, I guess my question is, is this black stuff normal? Is it the
elegance's way of getting rid of waste?
<Yes, can be.>
Is it something I should be concerned about?
because I am worried..... I want the corals in my tank to thrive, and if they
can not thrive, then I would rather give them to someone or return them to a
store that can take care of them. The other corals I have are a toadstool
leather, candy cane LPS, xenia pulsing, and a bulb anemone.
<Watch the anemone, can cause big problems when they decide to go for a walk.>
If this expelling of the black material is normal, then I am happy, but if it
isn't, and I can do something to correct it, please let me know.
<Please correct your lack of capitalization, the first letter of a sentence is
capitalized, I not i please!
I truly appreciate you taking the time to read this and help me out with any
info you have. Thanks again for all the info on your site that you have posted,
it helps us newbies out a whole lot.
<It is a tremendous, invaluable resource. Bob has dedicated countless days of
his life to it. I'm glad you have found it useful. Thank you for the kind
words. -Mich>
Jason Muzzey
Catalaphyllia jardinei mucus - 2/4/2006
Hello WWM Crew.
<Angela>
I would not be bothering you with an e-mail, but I am just packing to leave
town and haven't yet found the answer to my problem on your
Amazing Web Site. I am running out of time. It seems our Elegant Coral, which we
have had for nearly a year, is spewing out a kind of white
"fluffy" mucus. It doesn't seem to be affecting her
<Will affect your other livestock>
much as she still opens fully during the lighted hours in our tank.
Unfortunately, we have just recently (about a month ago) lost a Hammer Coral,
and half of a
Torch Coral, to a brown jelly infection that did not seem to be bothering them
much until it was too late. (The biggest problem here was
that I had never encountered this infection before and did not notice that
anything was wrong until the jelly actually appeared). I have tried
using a turkey baster to gently blow the mucus off and scoop it out with a fish
net, but I can't get it to come off. I do not want to harass her
unnecessarily Is this mucus a sign of something horrible to come?
<Too likely the latter>
Should I be worried and call off my trip?
<Mmm, no... but I would move/isolate this animal/colony>
I will not leave her unless I know she is going to be o.k. Thank you so much
for taking the time to read my e-mail and respond
(assuming you have the time). I think it is wonderful that you all volunteer you
precious time and knowledge to help us all in the never ending pursuit of happy,
healthy reefs.
I eagerly await your response.
Angela
<Glad to share... I take it you've seen my piece re captive care of this
species... I would move it to "somewhere else"... a planted shallow setting, on
the bottom... if at all possible. Bob Fenner>
Elegance Coral 11/26/03
Hello!
<Hi>
My husband and I have a question about our Elegance Coral. Normally
she has beautiful long green tentacles but today we noticed that she looks
"swollen" so to say, She almost looks an anemone-as in she
is "closing" like an elephant ear when they are eating. Her
tentacles stick out of the center of the
"swollen' body about 1cm. I've never seen her do this before. Do
you know what might be wrong?
<sounds like a feeding strategy... have you gone light on feeding it as of
late? This is a very needy/hungry coral. They can/will starve slowly over months
if not fed several times weekly>
Also, there is a tiny patchy of green "hair" coming up out of the
sand, directly next to her. It's only about 1cm high in a group no
larger than a quarter. Do you have any idea what in the world this
maybe?
<tough to say without a picture. Do send for ID if you can>
Thanks!
<best regards, Anthony>
Catalaphyllia Elegant coral excretion 6/16/04
I am sorry to disturbing you,
<no trouble at all my friend>
but I would truly like to know, if this was spawning occurrence of
Catalaphyllia jardinei. Right after releasing brown eggs (?) most of them
eaten by the maroon clownfish. Regards, Aleksander
<the excretion was... well... excrement. You now have the scoop on elegant
poop :) And it is very common for reef animals to eat excrement as it is
frankly nutritious. Many microcrustaceans like some copepods have to make
multiple passes though various digestive systems before they are adequately
broken down for digestion. All good. Anthony> |
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