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Hammer coral budding, and more beh. –
06/02/08
Greetings,
<Salutations>
I have a hammer coral, and there are several buds on the exposed skeleton. One
bud is currently poking out of the parent tissue. I read that I would have to
remove them from the parent to save them.
<Mmm, no... or not necessarily. If desirous of "speeding up" the process, you
can attempt removal, but otherwise will/do drop off in time of their own accord>
What's the easiest way to do this with minimal risk to the parent colony?
<A sharp metal tool like a chisel...>
Wouldn't removing the buds make the original colony look ugly with holes
everywhere?
<Beauty is in the eye, mind...>
? The buds are very tiny, about 3/16" of an inch in diameter.? Will this little
thing really grow with just adequate light and water flow?
<If conditions, their development is sufficient...>
Also, while feeding my fish, I noticed a fully expanded hammer coral tentacle
floating about in the water.? I siphoned it out and put it in my 10 gallon tank
on a rock to see if it will settle. Is this a bad sign?
<Is not a good sign or behavior... can/does sting other sea life... including
sessile invertebrates, fishes... best to remove>
Another thing is that my hammer doesn't seem to be interested in food. I placed
some mysis on its tentacles, but the coral didn't react. It just let the mysis
float away. Do I need to put food directly on its mouth, or should I not worry
about feeding it?
<I would feed it... read on WWM re: http://wetwebmedia.com/starfdgfaqs.htm
Bob Fenner>
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Frogspawn spitting
out pale pink "balls" ???- Euphyllia spawning 11/19/07
Hello and thank you for your website and all the information you
provide.
This is a strange question. I recently purchased a green frogspawn who
seems to be happy in its new home. It opens up to about the size of a
softball during the day. Last night I noticed it spitting out small pale
pink balls (for lack of a better term).
<A better term might be "planulae." ;)>
I could not get a good picture and that is the best description I can
come up with. The "balls" float around and eventually attached to the
side of the tank. They move somewhat like a slug on the glass.
<Coooolll!!>
The are about the size of a large pin head. What the heck is this? I am
new to saltwater so I want to make sure it won't hurt the tank. I have
been
removing them when I see them but not really sure if I need to. Any
advice is appreciated.
<Your coral is releasing larvae! It's having babies which are apparently
attempting to settle on the glass of your aquarium. I can't even begin
to tell you how uber-cool this is! Please, please, please try to take
pictures (at least of the coral so that maybe we can guess what species
this is). I'm honestly not sure what you should do with the planulae. I
would experiment with them a bit... try to get them to settle on
different things. Some people try to use tiles of different sorts. You'd
be venturing into relatively uncharted territory here though (very
exciting!). Unfortunately, there's just not a lot of publicly available
information on this. About the most information you'll find about
captive coral larval rearing is here:
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/3/aafeature2
However, that's for Pocillopora (Euphyllia are likely different). Please
continue to share your experiences with us and do visit MOFIB
(www.mofib.com).
Oh, and do run extra activated carbon and do some generous water
changes... spawnings can sometimes spoil the tank water.>
Thanks again.
<Thank *you*!
Sara M.>
Re: Frogspawn
spitting out pale pink "balls" ??? -Euphyllia spawning 11/19/07
OOps...forgot to give you parameters on tank. 14G BioCube, Nitrite
0, Ammonia 0, PH 8.2-8.4, Nitrate <10, Temp 78,
<This is a bit cool for a reef tank... 80 to 83 would be better.>
Salinity 1.023.
<Salinity for a reef tank should be 1.025 to 1.026.>
The tank has been running for 8 weeks. Inhabitants include 1 bubble
coral, frogspawn, button polyps, hammer coral and candy coral. 17 lbs of
LR and 15 lbs of LS.
<Hmm...how big is the Euphyllia? How long as it been in your tank? Are
the afore mentioned parameters stable? There's a chance this is a
"stress spawn" if something has changed recently.>
1 false percula and just this morning lost 1 false Perc to what we think
was Brooklynella but not positive. My daughter also takes care of the
tank and tends to act "too fast" when trying to solve a problem. Thanks
again.
<Please, let me thank you for sharing... your spawning report/query made
my day. :-) -S.M.>
Re: Frogspawn spitting out pale
pink "balls" ??? 11/19/07
Hi Sara M-
The coral has four heads and gets to about the size of a softball when
fully opened. It is really beautiful. It has only been in the tank for
about 2 weeks so it could be stress. I am going to gradually raise the
salinity and the temperature. The parameters have been the same for 6
weeks. We do a weekly small water change and lower the nitrates but they
manage to creep back up at the end of the week. I feel like the "proud
mama" of baby frogspawn larva!
I'm going to do my best to get pictures and I'll keep you updated. Thank
you so much!
<Thank you for the additional info. It will certainly be exciting if any
of the larva settle. If they do, keeping them alive and fed will be a
whole other ordeal, but will be a certain learning experience. We look
forward to hearing updates. Good luck! -Sara M.>
Re: Frogspawn
spitting out pale pink "balls" ??? -11/19/07
Hi Sara M-
The coral has four heads and gets to about the size of a softball when
fully opened. It is really beautiful. It has only been in the tank for
about 2 weeks so it could be stress. I am going to gradually raise the
salinity and the temperature. The parameters have been the same for 6
weeks. We do a weekly small water change and lower the nitrates but they
manage to creep back up at the end of the week. I feel like the "proud
mama" of baby frogspawn larva!
I'm going to do my best to get pictures and I'll keep you updated. Thank
you so much!
<Oh, I forgot to say... I'm not sure it was a stress spawn. Usually, it
seems that stress spawns, if they're going to occur at all, occur within
a few days after the coral is moved or after a water change (or some
other change). They don't usually happen 2 weeks later (as far as I've
heard anyway). Where are you? Or, if you don't want to say, when was the
last full moon where you are? Corals usually spawn either X days after
or before a particular full moon... -Sara M.>
Re: Frogspawn
spitting out pale pink "balls" ??? -11/19/07
We're located in North Texas. Our next full moon will be on Saturday
the 24th. I really appreciate all the information
<Hmmm... interesting. Unfortunately, I can't find much about exactly
when they spawn except that it's usually annual and in the spring in the
Indo-Pacific (during a particular lunar phase-can't find the details yet
though). Some of the fun part about all this, and almost a romantic
question: does a coral from Indonesia still "know" where the moon is
when it's moved to North Texas?...or does it follow the Texas moon?
There's also the question of what causes a stress spawn. It's probably
hormonal/biochemical, which might make us wonder... are there other
things that could cause a rise in these hormones? could diet? presence
of other corals? So many questions... so few answers. So, if it's not
too much a bother, you might want to start keeping an aquarium log and
see if this happens again (and under what circumstances).
Thanks again and please do keep in touch (and keep asking questions if
you have them). :-)
Best,
Sara M.>
Re: Frogspawn
spitting out pale pink "balls" ??? -11/19/07
We're located in North Texas. Our next full moon will be on Saturday
the 24th. I really appreciate all the information
<Oh, btw, if you're curious... I added your spawn report to a chart I
made of captive spawning reports for different corals:
http://www.asira.org/breedchart1.htm
Best,
Sara M.> |
Bugs inside torch tentacle
11/13/07
Hello,
I made an ill-advised purchase of a torch that was not doing so well at the LFS.
Anyway I have seen what look like little bugs swimming inside the tentacles
themselves. Just little black dots going back and forth inside the tentacles. It
is in a quarantine tank by itself. Just really strange looking.
<EEeeeee! It sounds like it might spawn! :-D Please try to take some pictures
and send them in if you can!! And I would keep it in quarantine... sometimes
coral spawn can really mess up your water.>
Thanks,
James
<My pleasure!
Sara M.>
Damaged Frogspawn ... prop., health 4/25/06
Hi all,
<Debi>
Well to make this short and not so sweet. I was cleaning my tank, 46 bow front
salt, changing water etc, when I stupidly decided to shorten the stem
on my very pretty Frogspawn. The LFS told me I could just break off the end and
made it sound simple so I did, but I had to put more force on it than I
expected and when it broke off it banged it's head (sort of opened up) on a rock
and several little green pieces broke off.
<Mmm, best/better by far to do such "operations" outside the main tank... with
the animal shaken (not stirred?) a few moments ahead to cause the polyps to
retract...>
Needless to say, it immediately retracted in shock and I also retracted from
the tank in shock. I had no idea what to do so I repositioned it in the same
place it had been,
quickly finished my tasks and decided to leave it alone, either to die or
recover. My question is whether or not I can do anything else for it
(anything good) aside from leaving it alone. Should I take it out and put it in
the QT tank of which I am not so sure it is ready?
<Mmm, I would not... given just the information presented here. Much more likely
to cause further trouble at this point likely>
Should it be dosed with Iodine and can that be done in the show tank?
<This is likely best>
I feel awful, he was so pretty and now he's just all sucked in and I have no
idea if he is beyond repair or not.
Thanks
<Euphylliids are very tough if/once established... I give you good odds of
complete recovery. Bob Fenner>
Detaching A Euphylliid From A Rock - 03/16/06
Hi WWM,
<<Hey there Tanya!>>
Quick question(s) for you (I hope) - I recently purchased a hammer, but it came
epoxied to a rather large piece of very unattractive lava rock that I'm having
difficulty placing in my 29 gal tank. What's the best way of removing it so I
can reattach it elsewhere?
<<Buy or borrow a hacksaw frame and go to the hardware store/home center and buy
a carbide "grit" blade to fit the saw. These usually come in two styles...one
looks like a heavy wire coated with the grit...the other looks like a standard
hacksaw blade with the grit coating on the cutting edge...either one will
work. Use the blade to saw the coral free from the rock near the base where it
is attached.>>
Can I just chisel it off?
<<Possibly>>
Do I do this in or out of water?
<<out>>
If out, how long do I have before I cause too much stress or damage?
<<You can easily keep the coral out of the water for several minutes. Do be
sure to have the coral expel water/retract its polyps before removing from the
water to keep from damaging the tissue by its own weight on edges of the
skeleton.>>
Thanks in advance!
Tanya
<<Welcome, EricR>>
Can you split Frogspawn? 02-08-06
My question is can you break or split frogspawn? It's doing very
well as is, but I'd like to relo a branch or 2 to the other side of the
tank if
possible. See attached photo.
<Yes. Branching corals can be broken or cut off anywhere below the
exterior tissue near the heads. A side cutter or Dremel tool make quick
work of this. Travis>
Thanks!
Lou |
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Fragging Euphyllia ancora - 01/05/06
Crew,
<<Bill>>
Hope you are well.
<<Yes, thank you>>
I have researched as extensively as I can on this site as well as web
based.
<<ok>>
I hope that you can direct me to the proper link if I have missed it as
I know you are all tremendously busy.
<<Tremendously <grin>...but seriously, what can I help you with?>>
I have a 8" expanded anchor coral. Not a hammer coral, not a branching
hammer coral; not a branching anchor coral. The meandering structure
type. Euphyllia ancora I believe.
<<Does sound like E. ancora, yes.>>
I have three questions:
1) At what point of growth and maturity on a segment is it safe to frag?
<<Hmm, not sure I get what you're asking. If you mean "How big should
the coral be before I frag it", then it should be of a size big enough
to produce a frag(s) of desirable size. If you're looking for a
"minimum" size, I think you could get away with splitting a 3"
specimen. Anything smaller and you don't really have much to
handle/work with. Of course larger specimens could be fragged in to
more pieces if desired.>>
2) How does one frag this coral?
<<Dremel tool...or a band saw.>>
All of the information on fragging that I have found is for the
branching variety.
<<Is easier to frag.>>
I have gotten conflicting information; some state to simply whack the
place where you want to split with a hammer and chisel
<<Messy and wasteful...>>
and others state wrapping a rubber band around the skeletal structure
and wait for the tissue to recede,
<<This is a good way to 'begin'.>>
then whack it with a hammer and chisel.
<<But don't 'end' this way.>>
To me, this seems to be adding another level of opportunity for tissue
degradation, infection and just plan stress.
<<The whacking? Agreed>>
And once split, what happens to the inevitable tentacle that has tissue
on both pieces - do you say "loves me not" and jerk it on one side
versus the other or will that be too damaging.
<<Never good to "yank" the tissue apart. If necessary use "very" sharp
scissors or a razor blade to cut.>>
I believe the rubber band/receding tissue suggestion has value but would
imagine it would be cleaner to use a circular saw or Dremel?
<<Yes on the rubber band method to recede the flesh from the intended
"break", this works quite well...but no circular saw...much too
dangerous. Buy/borrow a Dremel tool and a diamond bit. This works very
well for cutting the skeleton, just don't expect to "zip" through it.>>
Although the skeleton is quite thick and dense.
<<Very>>
3) I currently have this on a raised substrate bed and it looks
fabulous. However, I am concerned about the frags I will have. Do I
attempt to attach it with glue to a small piece of rock for support and
weight?
<<This is fine.>>
Where on the skeletal structure would I accomplish that?
<<Mmm...probably opposite the fleshy bit.>>
I would appreciate your input.
Regards,
Bill
<<You have it my friend...EricR>>
Re: Fragging Euphyllia ancora - 01/07/06
Eric,
<<Bill>>
Thank you. Just to make sure on a couple of points and recap, if it is
not too much bother.
<<No bother at all...>>
((I said)) At what point of growth and maturity on a segment is it safe
to frag?
((You said)) Hmm, not sure I get what you're asking. If you
mean.....get away with splitting a 3" specimen.
((I will clarify :)) I meant at what point is it healthy to pursue frag
of this coral. (although, in reality, fragging is not natural but beats
harvesting). I've seen many people make quarter inch Acropora cuttings.
<<Difference in physiology.>>
Each segment seems to have a mouth (this is good, right?)
<<And a requirement.>>
so my plan was to frag a segment when it reached 3" to 4".
<<This sounds like a good plan...>>
((I Said)) How does one frag this coral?
((You Said)) Dremel tool...or a band saw.
((I Said Next)) Wow, that tough? I am assuming it is all calcareous
and there is no life aside from the tissue external to the calcareous
growth so I can hack away.
<<Yep>>
With the proper tools how long should it take to go
through 2 to 3" IYO?
<<Density will vary slightly depending on the coral and the water flow
conditions under which it was grown. With the Dremel tool I would
expect to take a minute or two to make the cut you describe.>>
New Question: Recommendations where/how to hold the tissue parts where I
will have to squeeze for leverage while cutting?
<<Best not to handle/squeeze the tissue...will cause damage. Handle the
coral by the skeleton...pliers may help with this.>>
How long can it be out of the water?
<<A surprisingly long time it kept "wetted". Keep a container of
seawater handy and dip the coral frequently (every minute or two) while
working on it. Have another container of seawater for placing the frags
as they are cut.>>
Would it be advisable to do a bit, stop, then do more?
<<I would get it all done at one time...no need to extend/prolong the
stress.>>
I have never allowed my corals to be out of water since I took xenia out
for 8 seconds and had 2 pints of snot everywhere. Does anchor coral
mucus or slough easily?
<<Expect some mucus, but not to the extent of the xenia. I also
recommend you rinse the mucus away before placing the frags/parent coral
back in the tank. Excessive mucus can be an invite to bacteria.>>
New Question: It is currently in moderate flow, on a mound of sand in a
raised grotto of rubble pieces, in direct lighting. It has grown nicely
and expands well - appears/seems to like this area but I am not sure
this is optimal or if it would do well raised higher on a shelf.
<<From what you say...I would leave as is.>>
I have about 5w per gallon of 10k/03 Actinic. Might be interesting to
see how the segments form with a different sense of gravity.
<<???>>
My plan at this stage, barring additional input from above. When
retracted, place a wide rubber band around segment (to give me space to
work with in case of slippage) about .5" to 1" from where the next
segment meets. Allow time for the tissue to recede, making sure that
the tissue has reformed well on the segment to be fragged and all
sweepers are active and inflated as normal. if not, I will watch for
that and remove the band. I am going to
attach Styrofoam to the base and let it float in a plastic tray deep
enough for it to float, and work with the Dremel from the back side all
the way through if possible. If needed I will flip it and finish
exposed to air. I plan on also using the Dremel to smooth the edges
also. Then a mild Melafix and Iodine dip for both ends and back in the
tank.
<<Don't think I would do the dip, many corals don't react well in my
experience. Possibly a mild iodine dip would be OK, but I wouldn't mix
it with the Melafix...just my opinion.>>
The frag will then be mounted to a piece of rock so it can be buried or
mounted. It has grown about .5" in the last month so I will be doing at
a couple of frags in another month or so at the same time - I believe
the rubber band method, if it works, will allow this to be accomplished
with very minimal stress.
<<Agreed>>
Take good care.
Bill
<<Regards, EricR>>
Re: Fragging Euphyllia ancora II - 01/08/06
Apologies for being silly.
<<Not necessary my friend.>>
>>>> I have about 5w per gallon of 10k/03 Actinic. Might be interesting to see
how the segments form with a different sense of gravity. (<<???>>)
I meant gravity in the sense of height placement, lighting, flow as well as
segment formation differences from being on different structures instead of a
flattish sand bed - curves, dips, etc..
<<Ah, ok...a change in environmental conditions...>>
Thank you
<<Regards, EricR>>
Re: Difficult parasite (?) ID/help question
10/11/05
Wow! I would never have thought. I am looking forward to Antoine's confirmation but it's already a big relief to hear this.
<Don't know what... he's changing>
Thanks! Since it's so difficult for me to send a decent picture, would you know on
what website I could see pictures of that phenomenon.
<Mmm, not I... would ask Antoine and Eric Borneman on RC re>
This way I could visually confirm. I have been searching the internet after receiving your
reply but found nothing that would help. I guess the buddings are drifting in the water and
caught by the anemone and
that's why I see them there now.
Just strange I never saw any piece drifting in the water.
<Bob Fenner> Re: Difficult parasite (?) ID/help question 10/11/05
Hi Mr. Fenner!
<<Don't know what... he's changing>>
Mmmm, wander what that means...
<Wander/wonder? Seems to me he's changing... not responsive...>
I already wrote to Mr. Borneman about it and the conclusion was that he didn't think they were parasites but didn't know what they were and would be
curious to know. He advised me to do nothing.
<Sounds about right>
I wrote to tell him your idea. I give you the link to the thread in case you are interested:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5874204#post5874204
(BTW they are not egg spirals because they move inside-outside the polyps tips)
Thanks!!!
Dominique
<There are other non-sexual reproductive means... BobF>
Fragging Non-Branching Frogspawn - 09/12/05
Hi,
<<Hello>>
I looked over your fragging FAQs, but I did not get sufficient enough answers to
my fragging question.
<<Really?>>
I have a non-branching frogspawn, so it's just one skeleton and one mouth. I
bought it over a couple of months ago, and it just started growing like crazy.
<<That's a good thing, ain't it?>>
It is my favorite piece and I don't want to get rid of it, but I do not know how
to frag, and even more, how to frag a coral that does not branch.
<<Not all that difficult really.>>
Any help would be nice. Is there a site you can point me to that can show me
step by step on how to go about fragging this
gigantic frogspawn?
<<A good friend of mine posted a thread on Reef Central a bit more than a year
ago that showed this process...a key-word search might find it again.>>
I have a 30 gal, and I swear, when it's fully out, it takes up about 1/4 almost
1/2 of the tank. Thanks in advance.
<<Place a rubber band around the coral transecting the polyps where you want to
make the division. After a week or so the polyps will recede from this point,
allowing you to cut the skeleton (a Dremel tool works great for this) without
fear of damage to the soft tissue. Regards, EricR>>
Shipping Clams and Euphyllia Propagation 9.2.05
<<Anthony's input>>
Hello Crew!
<Fred>
You've been helpful with my previous questions, and
I'm hoping you may have some insights or thoughts on a couple of quandaries that
are pestering me
tonight! I've been shipping out clams lately via 2-day shipments (with 100%
success rates thus far!...knock on wood),
<<FWIW... 2-day on livestock in general is tolerable for some species, but not a
good habit at all.
Especially in cases of additional delay or inclimate weather>>
and a recent "issue" got me thinking. Generally these
are clams in the 3-4" range that I ship out in small 4x8" Kordon breathing bags.
I would guess there's
maybe a cup of water in each one. I'm sure you're familiar with the bags, so I
won't go into detail.
<Do know this Novalek product>
<<dreadful for shipping corals and spiny marine fishes, of which there are many.
Novel idea, but inherently flimsy to be effective (breathing)>>
Though every one has made it just fine, the most
recent shipment arrived in a broken bag and mostly dry, though there was still
moisture in the bag
due to packing with a lot of newspaper as well. This clam was also just fine
upon arrival.
<Are very tough animals>
This got me thinking: since the clams retain water while they're closed up,
would it make sense (or not?)
to perhaps wrap a rubber band around the clam so it would only be able to open
up a little?
<Mmm, I would not do this>
<<yes... what he said. Yikes>>
The last clam that broke through the bag has a couple of sharp edges on its
shell, and I'm sure
it was the clam opening up quickly in transit that popped the bag.
<Or just it rolling about>
<<Agreed.. the clam opening did not do it... the bags
are weak and the shipping rough along the way>>
I'm not sure how long a clam can remain closed...I would assume there would be
some sort of breathing
activity necessary?
<Yes>
I wouldn't want to stop this during shipment (obviously). Your thoughts? Is it a
worthwhile method to attempt??
<Not IMO>
My second question is about Euphyllia propagation. We
have two corals (E. paradivisa and E. glabrescens) in our 24g nano-cube that
continuously form
buds around the base of the larger polyps. They eventually float away never to
be seen again...
<?>
<<the coral forms these buds on healthy colonies and
if the large polyp head above it is damaged or chomped (often so in the wild),
then there are ready and
waiting buds to grow if/when they are exposed to more light and water flow. But
when the polyps above it are
large and healthy, the buds abate (wax and wane really) or get aborted>>
but I'm starting to feel guilty about letting all these polyps go to waste!
<I don't think these are Euphyllia polyps>
What would be the proper way to collect and mount these?
<<some aquarists carve them off with a paring knife
and let the tiny polyps settle in cups with tiles or reef plugs). If the polyp
is large enough, you can also
handle it with tweezers and super glue it with a dab upon rock>>
There is no skeleton on any of them that I can tell,
so I'm not sure if they would glue down very well.
<<cup settlement for these>>
My other thought is some netting over a simple plug of
some sort. I consulted Anthony's book but wasn't able
to find any specific information on them.
<I will cc him here re>
The frogspawn alone puts out 6-8 polyps a week or so,
and I think these would be excellent candidated for
aquaculture if I can figure out a method to save and grow them.
<< we demonstrate this in workshops if you make it out
to a hobby club conference... MACNA is coming up next in DC Sept 2005 (see
MASNA.org)>>
Looking for a little insight on the subject if you can provide any. Once again,
many thanks!
Fred
<Bob Fenner>
<<Anthony Calfo>>
Re: Shipping Clams and Euphyllia Propagation 9/9/05
Hi guys,
<Have sent your query along to Antoine as well>
I realize it's been a busy week, but I just wanted to touch base to see if
you had any more insights on these frogspawn floaters...I'm letting a few
every week go, hoping I can maybe do something with them!
Thanks!
Fred
<You did see Anthony's input, archived here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/clambizfaqs.htm
He does think these are offspring from your Caryophylliid>
Subject:
Hi Bob,
<Fred>
Thanks so much for the help. I'll take your advice on shipping the clams and
won't mess with a good thing right now.
<Good>
With regards to the Euphyllia, when you say you don't think they're
Euphyllia polyps, do you mean they're something else completely, or not likely
polyps?
I've attached a picture for you here.
<Unfortunately, not here...>
They are definitely from the two Euphyllia corals, that much I'm 100% sure on.
Well, after a few
pics, the best are attached (yet another argument for me getting a macro
lens!).
I found one BIG piece in the back of the tank. Since I never saw how it got
there, I can't say whether it was pinched off by something or extruded, or
simply fell off. Your thoughts?
<Could be a "recruit" from your main colony... do break off...>
They're not the best pictures, but I think you should be able to see the two
polyp buds forming at the base of one of the larger polyps. These are what
seem to end up floating around in the tank, though now maybe I'm not so sure
after seeing the rather large piece in the back. Can these buds be
propagated successfully?
<Yes>
They're maybe 2-3mm tall right now, and I can't
tell if they've got any sort of skeleton yet, but it intrigues me
nonetheless.
BTW, the "baby polyp" picture is what appears to be one of the buds. I know
for sure it's from the Frogspawn, but whether it's one of the buds (I know
they're improperly called anthocauli, but you get the idea) or simply a
piece that came off, as I theorized before.
It would be wonderful if I could add these guys to my current repertoire of
Sarcophyton sp., various Zooanthids, Xenia, Cerith snails, etc...
Thanks again!
Fred
<Would "grow up" and see... I had initially thought these were likely planulated
hydrozoans... now I'm more inclined to think they are asexual buddings of the
Euphyllia. Bob Fenner>
Fragging A Frogspawn - 08/23/05
Bob,
<<EricR here...>>
I have a frogspawn coral in a 12G Nanocube reef that is getting larger than I'd
really like.
<<ok>>
My son would love part of it to add to his 24G nanoreef, but I'm afraid to try
splitting it for fear of seriously damaging it.
<<Little need for concern if done carefully.>>
I've looked through the FAQs and can't find anything -- can you suggest how best
to go about "pruning" frogspawn?
<<I can...have a look here through our propagation FAQs and the related links re
this coral (and others):
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/carypropfaqs.htm
Thanks very much!
David Potter
Hillsborough, NJ
<<Regards, >
Fragging Non-Branching Hammer Coral - 07/06/05
I know you can use a Dremel to cut the coral. But I have a hammer coral
that isn't the branching kind. I want to frag this coral but how would I use
the Dremel to cut along the top fleshy part of the coral.
<<I have a friend who does this. His method is to stretch a rubber band around
the coral crossing the polyps where he wants to make the cut. In a week or so,
the polyps will recede from this point leaving open skeleton for you to make the
cut without fear of damaging the polyps and risking infection.>>
Thanks,
S. Montgomery
<<Regards, Eric R.>>
Frogspawn Bubbling Up
Dear Crew
<Mike G with you tonight. I personally apologize for the delay in response: our crew has been absolutely bogged down with queries for the past week or so. I hope you understand.>
My Euphyllia shown in this picture is splitting on one of its colonies. However a bubble in the coral flesh has formed on what seems to be the divide between the splitting colony. Is this normal?
<Absolutely normal for splitting LPS. Happens all the time in my tank. Sometimes they stay for quite a large period of time, but are nothing to lose any sleep at all over.>
It has been prevalent for about three months. The coral has never been out of water and expands and feeds normally.
Regards
<Best of luck in this wonderful hobby, Mike G> |
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Frogspawn and Torch Propagation 10/23/04
How would I go about fragging a frogspawn or torch coral. I know everyone
says to just break the stalk; but on mine the problem is I have one stalk with 3
mouths on the frogspawn and the torch has 1 stalk but 4 mouths.
<if the polyps have not completed fission, then you need to wait for them to
form separate "heads" with individuals "mouths". Then you can use a Dremel
rotary tool to saw them off anywhere from 2 CM below the top edge tissue or
lower>
What would be the easiest way to frag these 2 corals?
<a Dremel is best/safest>
Thanks, S. Montgomery
<best regards, Anthony>
-Dead portions of hammer-
Hello again,
I just have a quick question for your fine staff. I have a three
fingered HAMMER CORAL. Unfortunately, one of the fingers seems to
have died. Their is no sign of life. However, the other
two fingers are flourishing. Can I cut off the dead finger or what
would you suggest. <Absolutely, provided there is no live tissue connecting
the dead head to the live ones.> Their is some brown slime starting to form
on the dead finger. <Definitely remove this dead one, it would also be good
practice to give the other heads an iodine dip, do a search on this site for
info how. Good luck! -Kevin>
Thanks again for your hard work and dedication,
Jose
- Fragging -
Hello again,
I would appreciate your expertise with a three fingered HAMMER CORAL. One
of the fingers seems to have died while the other two fingers are thriving. Is
there a way I can cut off the dead finger without damaging the other two.
<Yes... with needle-nosed pliers or I've seen some use tin-snips - just cut
that one arm as close to the base as possible. Should be no problem.> Your
assistance would be greatly appreciated. Also, would a lawnmower
blenny and a Kole Tang help with the removal of green hair-like algae that is
growing in may tank. <The blenny would likely help with some of it.> I
realized that my lights were on too long of a period.
Thanks for providing a great service to us,
Jose
<Cheers, J -- >
Hammer coral repair 3/3/03
hello Anthony, gang,
<cheers>
Quick question for the ones with the answers.
<we make most of them up <G>>
I recently bought a Branching Hammer coral, upon placing it into the rockwork
one of the branches broke off of the coral. It did not hurt the coral
cause it was far enough down,
<excellent... no worries at all then. Better for the polyps which will grow
faster now for getting better light and water flow>
but I would like to glue or epoxy the 2 pieces back to form one large, beautiful
coral that it was.
<if you like>
Any detailed advice on how to go about this would be great.
<wave the polyps in (fully retracted) then lift the branches out of the water
to protect the tissue from abrading against its own sharp septae. Pat/blot both
broken edges dry with a towel... glue with thick super glue gel (any brand) and
tie the branches together with a tight rubber band (will dissolve in weeks) or a
plastic cable tie (you cut away the next day). The coral can stay out of water
for a couple minutes if you like to finish this>
I just got your "Book of Coral Propagation" Anthony , its awesome and
is very informative. thanks all for everything.
<thank you kindly, my friend. Anthony>
Baby Bubble coral? 3/10/03
Hello again,
<cheers>
I have never seen this before but will ask for your opinions, Mr. Calfo
and Mr. Fenner. Before I bought this green bubble coral I asked
if there was any recession of the tissue or if the coral was stressed at
all. Since it was on the internet that's all I could do.
<indeed... the pitfalls of buying the unseen>
I was told there was no recession of the tissue and that the coral wasn't
damaged at all so I bought it. Well go figure, when I got the
guy over two months ago lo and behold there was some recession of tissue
but no broken skeleton anywhere.
<no biggie... rather common on stonies with such large and exaggerated
septa. Probably could have been packed better though (using folded plastic
in the bag submerged as bumpers)>
I have had the bubble in quarantine since I received it and have been
trying to bring it back to health.
<feeding will be key... tiny portions several times weekly here>
The tissue has receded more than when I got it buy yesterday noticed and
small bud on the side of the skeleton or what I think is a baby bubble
coral.
<correct... an asexual bud. It is completely separate from the parent
and can be removed in time>
Looks like it is anyway, during the day the tentacles have enlarged
bubbles and at night the tentacles don't resemble bubbles at all but long
skinny tentacles. It is about the size of a small pea. I
am sending pics for you to go over. What do you guys think? Is
this a baby bubble or just an anemone?
<it is a bud off the parent coral>
How do I go about feeding it?
<just stirring the sand or detritus near it at night will serve you for
months until it gets larger>
All help is needed so I can care for this guy. Thanks, Jeff
<in time, use a rotary tool to saw it away from the parent and then
glue it to a hard surface. Else, it will die in the shadow of the parent
assuming the parent recovers and thrives. Kindly, Anthony> |
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Frogspawn Coral Budding 3/5/03
Hello, I hope all is well. Firstly, I would just like to thank
all of the crew for their help both directly to myself and through reading the
FAQs.
<and thanks to you for caring and helping yourself/our hobby>
I have just one question tonight, I noticed a small bud on the skeleton of a
frogspawn I have had for several months.
<wonderful>
It is about the diameter of a pencil eraser fully extended.
<in time it will need to be removed or it will die in the shadow of an older
"head" polyp. In the wild, these are started for if/when the big
polyps get eaten/destroyed>
My question is does the frogspawn translocate
nutrients within the colony from feedings,
<alas, no... each polyp must be fed>
and if so, will this suffice the new polyp given that it is fairly obstructed
from the light?
<as per above... needs fed and needs to be removed in time>
Thank you again for your never ending assistance to all.
Ed in NJ
<with kind regards, Anthony>
Frogspawn
Hi guys. Question about frog spawn. I have one with four branches, one branch is dead. Can I trim this off or should I leave it alone.
<Either, but I would leave it. It is possible that the dead branch could become live again. We just had a similar question and report the other day. You can read about it here http://www.wetwebmedia.com/caryfCorlsaqs.htm>
Are they long lived creatures?
<Can be very long lived as long as they do not fall to predation or infection.>
Thanks! -Becky
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Frogspawn & Another Possible Anthocauli
You answered a frogspawn question on 6/23 and indicated that a "dead" branch on a frogspawn would never grow again. This was my understanding as well, but one of the "dead" branches on mine has spouted two new animals! Was this branch asexually recolonized by another living branch?
<Probably not. If there was an asexual spawn, much greater likelihood of landing on the rock.>
Or was there some remnant of the previous animal that returned?
<Perhaps another coral that produces Anthocauli.>
There may not be an answer to this, just wanted to get your hunch on it and report a small success! By the way, the new frogspawns appeared about 4 months after the branch died originally. They are growing like weeds! For reference purposes, the coral sits at a depth of 14" in a 72g with 85 lb LR and DSB. Lighting is 2 175w MHs and 130w actinic PC. I have a 20g sump with an AquaC EV-120 and no other filtration except GAC in sump. Temperature is 80, salinity is 1.025, pH is 8.4, alkalinity is 3.5 meq/l, calcium is 450 ppm, no detectable phosphate, nitrate, ammonium, or nitrite. I also use a wavemaker. Thanks -Ed.
<Do look up the article by Anthony and I concerning Anthocauli production. I think there are probably many "dead" LPS corals that can come back to life if given time and proper conditions. -Steven Pro>
Re: Frogspawn & Another Possible Anthocauli II
Thanks for the response, Steven. I did look up your article and learned something new! The two baby
Euphylliids are about dime-sized at this point. I actually have a friend with a declining brain coral (partially denuded skeleton), so I will let him know that he shouldn't give up on it.
<Yes and take pictures of both corals, too.>
Also, you can tell Anthony that I ordered his book. I'm looking forward to it because I think I've read through Borneman's book about 3 times by now!
<Anthony's book is excellent! You will be very happy with your purchase.>
Thanks again - Ed
<Talk to you later. -Steven Pro>
Frog Spawn & Plate Corals
Hi. I have a question about a frog spawn I bought. It has four "branches" to it. Three are beautiful, one is just a dead skeleton. Will the branch grow in again?
<No>
One more thing. I have a plate coral that you guys have been yelling at me for the way I was treating it. Just wanted to let you know that it is on the sand now and I bought a 175 watt MH to make sure it's receiving enough light. I'm not a coral killer, I swear! Does the sand have to be the real soft kind or can it be
aragonite sand?
<I do not know what you mean by soft sand, but aragonite is best.>
I have aragonite. Thanks! -Becky
<You are welcome. -Steven Pro>
Anthocauli? Simply Budding
Hey Anthony - just wanted to send you a shot of the anthocauli on my frogspawn. There are 2, but one is more visible (top left). This shot is obviously at night, but during the day they reach about the size of a quarter now.
Ed Marshall, Austin, Texas
<absolutely awesome my friend. Thank you so much for sharing. It reminds us to never give up too on injured or damaged animals :) A little schooling too: anthocauli most only refers to Fungiid satellites. In some other
scleractinians (Lobophyllia and Trachyphyllia, e.g.), clones seem to form similarly between the septa (the "ridges" of a large
corallite) via decalcification of the parent. In your coral, the fissionary bud is not forming from between the septa and perhaps not even from de-calcification. It seems to simply (and wonderfully) be an event of budding. Ughhh.... sorry for the
scholastic/academic bone picking :) But I'd to let it pass my without sharing the information. By any
definition... it is great to see! I bet if you wait some months and beak it off, more will follow. Do
separate with a Dremel if you do. Best regards and be seeing Texas soon (September), Anthony> |
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Bubble corals
Hello again,
I recently purchased a bubble coral from my LFS. My question is, it
looks as though the coral was damaged in transport and now it looks to have
split into 2 equal sized halves. It doesn't look as though there is any
more damage. What should I be looking for and if it is not damaged to
severely, will these two parts grow into two healthy bubble corals?
Looking forward to your input, you have really helped out in the past.
<If not too damaged this specimen (Plerogyra) will/should recover... most important here is to provide a stable, optimized environment... resist trying to move the animal/colony, and consider adding enough current to keep "dust" off of it. Stony corals are slow to come back, but do so if not too beaten, given good circumstances... Bob Fenner, www.wetwebmedia.com>
Frogspawn question
I've had a frogspawn for about two weeks and its doing fine. however its a
subspecies of frogspawn that actually branches off and each branch has a cluster
of polyps on it. its not like the 'usual' frogspawn that has only one polyp
cluster. anyways.... there are five polyps on the coral and one is dead. I got
it this way and I was wondering if there was a chance that it would regenerate a
new polyp. Lemme know what you think.
Jon Trowbridge
<This is likely Euphyllia glabrescens... maybe take a look at the family
Caryophylliidae pix on the www.wetwebmedia.com site, and the associated FAQs
pages... And yes to the likelihood the "missing" branch will become
repopulated... with time, good conditions. Bob Fenner>
Torch coral reproduction?
Hi Bob! I just wandered how do torch corals reproduce? Is it by budding?
<Yes, in a manner of speaking... as well as sexually>
Looking at my tank in and endless stare as usual a saw a very small what I
assume (bud) of a torch coral, just like the tip bright yellow almost a
perfect sphere, looks like it just pinched off. If this is a form of
reproduction is there anything I can do to help this lil bud to make it?
<Keep the system stable and optimized is about all>
I
found it sitting on my Brain coral so I moved it to a piece of live rock and
it seems to be sitting there for who knows how long, I am afraid it may be
gone in the morning. Any info would be greatly appreciated on how Torches
reproduce. Also can these corals be propagated?
<Yes, most often done by way of hand tools, breaking off a piece, adhering or propping them up toward the light, good current, boosted alkalinity, biomineral content in their water... some folks do this in a tied-in sump with their main systems. Bob Fenner>
Anxiously awaiting more
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