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FAQs About Water Changes for Marine Systems 4 Related Articles: Marine Water Change,
The
“Perfect” Water Change Regimen? by Scott Fellman,
Water Changes, Exchanges by Anthony Calfo, Captive
Seawater Quality,
General
Marine Maintenance,
Related FAQs: Water Changes for Marine Systems 1,
Water Changes 2,
Water Changes 3,
& FAQs on Water Changes: Rationale,
Gear/Tools, Frequency/Amount,
Techniques, Automation,
Trouble/shooting, &
Water Top-Off Systems,
Evaporation/Water Make-Up, Treating Tapwater, Marine
Water Quality, Marine Plumbing,
Water changes (w/o much change
in chemistry, physics) re important for invertebrates as well as fishes.
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Re: Everything going bad
01/24/2008
Thanks so much for the responses.
<<Hello, Andrew again, thank you for the follow up>>
I broke down and got a R/O system because I got sick of driving to the LFS to
buy 5 gallon jugs of water (this isn't a cheap hobby by the way). I've tried to
read through the faqs on water for marine systems and I've got some better
understanding on how to handle water, but I've still got some questions
regarding storage and top off.
<<No problem, we shall get these cleared up for you today>>
First off do I need to worry about water top offs on a 55 gal tank with sump if
I'm doing weekly 10% water changes?
Is this eventually going to raise my specific gravity due to evaporation, or
will the water changes take care of that?
<<Yes you do need to top off the water. If you don't, the Sg of the tank will
rise because the water evapourates, but the salt stays behind>>
If my SG does start getting away from where I want it what's the best way to
bring it back? By adding fresh water, or lower SG water changes?
<<If your SG is getting high, then only add RO water to bring this back to
acceptable levels>>
If I do need to do top offs in small amounts can I just use straight RO water
into the sump as long as the temperature is close?
Or do I have to aerate, heat and let it sit over night? (I'm trying to build
good habits for a reef tank down the road, but I don't want to spend hours each
night keeping this thing going)
<<As long as the temp is average of the top off water, adding it to the sump in
small amounts is fine. Maybe consider purchasing/setting up an Auto-Top off
unit>>
Second, when I'm "aging" water should I age it as fresh water, or after I've
aerated, heated and added salt mix?
<<I do it all in one go. I turn on the powerhead and heater, add the weighted
out salt to the water, leave for 24 hours. Check levels and adjust over the next
24 hours. Then all is good and ready to use>>
Finally, do I only need to aerate 24 hours prior to water change, or once it's
been aerated can I store it like that? I'm just trying to come up with a
checklist of things I need to do.
<<You need it aerated 24 hours at least, I prefer 48 hours personally, before
use. This gives the water time to settle, and get to the right temperature and
SG to level>>
I have a small house and storing multiple trashcans full of water is going to be
difficult for me, plus the setup of my RO water system will make it very time
consuming to fill the trashcan so I'd like to get enough water to do multiple
water changes if possible.
***
Kind of like this...
**
Run R/O water into Rubbermaid can
Aerate with powerhead and heat over night (longer?)
Add salt mix to get up to 1.023 (what I'm currently at with FOWLR system)
Add buffer as needed
Do water change
...store water for a week
Aerate and heat overnight
Do water change
Repeat
<<Yes, that sounds fine. I used to be in a similar situation. I had one trashcan
( waste bin here in the UK ;) ) always full of RO water. When it was coming time
for water change I would remove the required amount of water to a separate
trashcan and add the required salt, mix etc etc. Then store away the can after
the water change till next time. This way, you don't have lots of saltwater
sitting in a trash can without movement and heat>>
Is that kind of right or should I store it fresh after aerating and heating for
top offs and only add salt/buffer 24 hours prior to water change in smaller
batches.
<<See response above>>
Finally some non-water questions:
<<Oh good>>
For my Aiptasia problem they're really only bad on a couple of rocks (maybe 2 or
3 out of 10 or so). If I pulled these rocks and gave them a real good cleaning
would it affect the bio filter enough to make a difference? How long does it
normally take for dead rock to become live rock?
<<A good simple solution for Aiptasia removal is to fill a syringe up with
boiling water, and blast the Aiptasia directly, watch it melt. Dead rock to live
rock really depends on the amount of live rock in the tank to seed the dead. Can
be anywhere from a couple months, to 6 - 8 month, a bit too open-ended to answer
more specifically>>
What's the best time to treat the Aiptasia with Kalkwasser and scrape
algae/bacteria to reduce stress on the fish?
Right before/after a water change, far from a water change? At night when they
go into hiding? (I forgot to mention this earlier, but one of my gobies ate a
big blob of Kalkwasser paste after I was treating the Aiptasia which may have
led to his disappearance)
<<This will certainly not of helped the fishes stomache..>>
Sorry about all the questions. Chad
<<Thanks for all the questions, hope this helps. Please shout back if you need
some more clarity or more questions. Thanks, A Nixon>>
Water Change Maint.
1-11-2008
Hi
<Hello there. Yunachin here>
I haven't been good about cleaning up the sand (via the siphon hose) in my tank.
When I do it can I recycle the water or do I need to put in new water?
<Whenever you remove any water from your tank in the cleaning/siphoning task,
you need to replace that water with clean water of the same temperature as your
tank. Here are some links to check out in reference to what you need to do:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/water.htm ;
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/watchgantart.htm>
Thanks
<You're welcome! Yunachin>
Jim
Water Change Technique 3/15/07
Dear WetWeb Media
<Hello>
After I got done reading your last answer you sent me. I got to thinking about
if I was even changing water and cleaning the tank the right way. I have this
question for you. <Ok> When you do water changes and clean the filter sock that
I have in my sump, do you shut down the system, meaning the pumps while you do
this? <I do.> I hope this is not a crazy question for you. <Not at all.. I just
don't know the answer to it 100% I think I'm right but I’m wrong a lot more than
I’m right? <Me too.> Because I have been turning the pump off when I do water
changes I just thought that was common sense. <Is to me, less chance of burning
something out that way.> Thank you for your time answering my 1000's of
questions.
Jeff
<Welcome>
<Chris>
Cleaning Crushed Coral 1/15/07
Hi,
<Hi, Pufferpunk here>
First of all, I love you guys' website so keep it up.
<Thanks, we try our best!>
Here's my situation: I have a 150 gallon fish only saltwater tank. The tank
has two Emperor 400s, a 15 gallon sump with a very powerful pump, a protein
skimmer, UV-sterilizer, two heaters and two compact lights. As far as
biological filtration, I have about 80-100 lbs of live rock and a 4" substrate
of crushed coral. The tank has been set up for almost two years now. In the
tank I have 6 Bartlett's anthias, a yellow Coris wrasse and a firefish (forgot
his full name.)
<Nice collection of fish.>
Anyway, here's my dilemma: My substrate is getting completely covered with some
form of red algae and it looks almost like a carpet.
<Do a search for Cyanobacteria.>
This algae spreads to my rocks but not to my glass.
<If it's Cyano, it could take over everything.>
I think it looks neat, so I'm okay with it on my rocks but I'm afraid this will
stop the biological filtration from my crushed coral since parts of it get
completely covered. Now, my question is: Is there some type of cleaner fish
that works well on crushed coral? I thought about a sand-sifting goby but I
don't think most varieties would be able to sift the crushed coral because it is
so big.
<I'm always surprised when I see my watchman goby carrying large pieces of
rubble & shells, into his cave.>
If there is no fish that will clean it, how do you recommend taking care of the
problem? Just vacuum it once a week or so?
<Yes>
I've read that it's not a great idea to disturb the substrate too often, because
it will affect your anaerobic bacteria.
<Not true. With the kind of substrate you are using, it is recommended to
vacuum weekly, to prevent buildup of detritus & nitrates. Enjoy your great
tank! ~PP>
Any information you can give me will help.
Thanks guys, Doug
Water Change 12/21/06
Hi Guys,
<Hello>
I have a Vision 180 FOWLR setup which I will call Tank 1 and also a 88 Ltr FOWLR
tank which I am setting up as a Seahorse/Caulerpa tank which I will call Tank 2.
I have set up Tank 2 with a view to farm some food for my herbivores in the Tank
1 set up. <Ok, but may be some better macro choices than Caulerpa.> I have a
question on water changes. Would it be possible to use water from Tank 2 for
water changes ? i.e.. Water that has been biologically filtered by the Caulerpa.
Process being, drain half Tank 1 water, Drain half Tank 2 water. Put water from
Tank 1 into Tank 2 and vice versa. I know this looks complicated but basically I
would like a constant recycling process without having to make up RO water on
water changes.
<Not really, this process will not remove everything that needs to be nor add in
important trace elements and buffering agents that a conventional water change
would. Also the Caulerpa is quite active chemically which could have a negative
long term effect.>
<Chris>
Water Changes VS Water Top off; Apples VS Oranges? 11/27/06
<Hey Clinton, JustinN here today.. No formal greetings? *grin*>
I have a 125 gallon tank with 120 pounds of sand and 100 pounds of live rock
that is about four months old. The system is mainly all reef about fourteen
corals, which are mostly LPSs and a couple sps.
There is also a few fish. yellow tang, royal Gramma, two yellow tail gobies, two
small clown fish, Scotts fairy wrasse, and three chromis.
The chemical water environment is steady throughout the week with water
changes. I was just wondering since the water evaporates at almost five gallons
a week if it would be ok just to do water top offs instead of complete water
changes.
<I do think you have a little bit of a misunderstanding of water evaporation and
water changes. They are not interchangeable. Water top off is to maintain salt
density at a proper level, based on the evaporation. Water changes, on the other
hand, are used to remove waste from the water (whether they're detectible by
tests or not, they are still there) as well as replenishing trace elements and
natural balance to the water. Please don't reduce your husbandry skills for this
reasoning, if you're that concerned with the maintenance involved with both
topping off water, and water changes, set yourself up an auto top off system.
There are many commercially available, and DIY projects abound to achieve this
end. Hope this helps you! -JustinN>
Thanks a lot for the helpful information.? What about the formal greetings?
<Simply that all correspondence through our site is posted, archived for all to
see, and we tend to like a more formal, proper form. It tends to make things
easier to identify and follow. The comment, however, was meant in jest and not
intended as anything more. -JustinN>
Re: Q Tank Size -- Now, a follow-up 11/24/06
Hi Bob!,
<Hey Q, JustinN with you today>
More of a comment here than a question (though I will sneak a question in
towards the end!)
<Hehe, ok>
Following the advice and good reviews on this site, I replaced my Red Sea Prizm
protein skimmer with an AquaC Remora.
<An excellent decision, IMO>
I received the unit about 1 week ago, gave it a quick cleaning with warm water
and set it into my tank. I was a little nervous at first because the unit was
not producing any skimmate at all. The bubbles didn't seem able to make it even
half way up the neck of the collection box... Having read (here) that these
units require a "break-in" period, I shelved my concerns and sat back to wait.
<Always a good idea with a new addition, equipment-wise>
After about the 3rd day of operation, the skimmer appeared to suddenly kick into
action, producing a large volume of organic laden bubbles. With some minor
tweaking (I was very familiar with making tiny adjustments after my aggravating
experience with the Prizm)
<I know this all too well, am awaiting the arrival of my Tunze DOC 9002 to
replace my Prizm as well...>
I had the skimmer producing a nice dry foam that resulted in a good volume of
dark skimmate... Much more than I'd ever seen from the Prizm.
<Excellent to hear>
Thank you for the great advice.
<Hehe, wish I could take credit for this one *grin*>
What do you think about the twice a week, small volume (5%) water change regime
outlined in detail on your site? because I've noticed that my fish seems to
react positively to a water change, I was considering going with this
'system'. Would you vacuum the substrate every water change? (this is not
covered in the article). Will this be stressful to the fish?
q
<I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment of twice weekly, lower percentage
water changes. I utilize a 3-4 gallon water change, twice a week in my 40 gallon
aquarium. Usually, I don't disturb the sand bed unless there's a need. Instead,
I use a small powerhead for water change purposes. My storage container sits
next to my aquarium, with the pump laying in the bottom for circulation. I
attach aquarium tubing to the pump, then place the pump in my display. Using the
hose and flow from the pump, I start by blasting my rockwork clean and getting
the gunk into the water column. Next, I direct the water out of the tank into a
bucket for disposal. Then I simply toss the pump back into the storage
container, and return the water to the tank. I see no reason that this would be
stressful to the fish. Hope this helps you out! -JustinN>
A Grab Bag of Questions... Water changes/SW, UV use, Sponges as foods
11/19/06
Good evening WWM crew, hope all is well. I have a few general questions for
you, if you don't mind. First off, a good number of aquatic-veterans agree that,
in most properly planned and maintained systems, smaller, more frequent water
changes are more beneficial than larger, less frequent changes. I was reading
Scott F's article on doing 5% water changes twice a week, and was wondering if
it would be just as good, better, or worse to do 1 or 2% daily water changes?
<Mmm, possibly... the ideal would be to continuously change out a bit... as in
dripping in/out>
Most of the information on daily water changes that my search turned up referred
to emergency situations and medicated tanks. I currently live in an apartment
and it would actually be easier for me to mix up a quick
<Ahh... better by far to pre-mix, let age... per WWM...>
2 gallon (tank is 90g) batch of saltwater. And by "easier" I mean that my
girlfriend does not like the idea of having a Rubbermaid trashcan full of water
in the living room.
<Can be located elsewhere... pumped or bucketed...>
I'd estimate, three weeks of daily changes a month, and one week of a single 10%
water change so I could actually have time to vacuum the gravel. Any thoughts or
downsides??
<Time, trouble, spilling... mostly>
Tank will be (still in the planning process) a 90g FOWLR system, with a
canister, skimmer and maybe a UV sterilizer, (see next question.) I'm only
picking out 4 or 5 medium sized fish as Bob, Anthony, and others suggested in
various FAQs for this size tank. So, no major worries about the stocking level.
My second question is... Any idea how a UV sterilizer would impact tunicate
populations in a tank?
<Mmm, possibly reduce available foodstuffs... are filter feeders...>
I was given one as a gift, and figured I might as well hook it up, but was
curious/concerned about its possible effect on the free-swimming young of
tunicates.
<Oh! These will likely be readily removed by skimming, predation... if produced
at all>
My concern stems from the fact that I would like to put a medium size angel in,
and want there to be some live food available. I love the Apolemichthys genus,
<Will very likely consume ascidians...>
and it's not too hard to find retail specimens eating prepared foods in my area.
<You are fortunate here>
But even if it's eating, I'd like to provide the most complete diet possible.
The sterilizer takes a 9watt bulb and suggests 100 - 200gph for most
applications and I think around 50gph for parasites. I would prefer to hook it
up to my canister's output at 350gph, because in all honesty this would make it
much, much easier to clean, service, etc. Is it even worth bothering at that
flow rate?
<Yes>
I know that the extra head (it's a "turbo-twist") will decrease the gph a bit,
but I doubt enough to meet ESU's recommended flow rate. Also, on the general
subject of feeding angels, is there any real risk to using most forms of "tree
sponges" as feeder sponge for angels??
<Mmm... some... many of these... oh I see you address this below>
Any concerns about toxicity or decay??
<Yes>
I have a small 36"x18" tank I'm using to culture rock that I could quarantine
the incoming sponge in. I've read the warnings about most types of "ball
sponges," but haven't heard the same caveat about "tree sponges." If there are
any major risks with "tree sponges," is there any decent type of sponge to use
as a feeder, or is best to just rotate old live rock out and new live rock in?
<This last is more... preferable. Oriental food stores may be able to supply you
with useful Poriferans... in dried formats>
(Shouldn't be a hassle with the extra tank.) Any ways, thank you again for your
help, this wonderful site and your contribution to the hobby.
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
Vacuuming Gravel 10/12/06
Thank you for your prompt response. I presume to begin the suction you need to
suck on the end of the hose? <Can, I use a turkey baster to start it, few other
methods out there too.> Also, how do you heat your small tanks? I recently
added a 7.5 watt heater to my tank but after having left it overnight it doesn't
seem to want to heat it above 76 degrees. <Can the temperature be adjusted? If
not may want to get a different model.> I'm not sure what temperature unheated
water is so I was wondering if this is hot enough. <Ok, a little low but
stability is more important than exact temperature for fish.>
I know Bettas prefer temperatures in the 80's. <Ideal>
<Chris>
Water Changes While Away 9/27/06
Hey guys... have a quick question for you. <Sure> I have a 29 gallon reef
with a 15 gallon refugium with some live rock, and a nice big soccer ball size
of Chaetomorpha underneath. <Nice> I have a small hand full of small corals I
can list them if you need, I have 2 clowns, a fire fish, and very very small red
line angel.
My question is this. I am in the military and am deploying for just round 30
days to the middle east. <Good luck and please be careful.> I usually do 15%
water changes every week and am usually very on the spot for the husbandry of
the tank. My problem is I really don't have anyone that I can trust to do water
changes and siphoning while I am gone. I can have my brother feed them because
all you have to do is get some tank water and thaw a small chunk of the frozen
food and feed the anemone a cut up silver side 2 times a week. <Make sure he
also knows to top off with fresh water when necessary.> I will be gone 30 days
with a max of 45. Could I go the max 45 days without a water change? <Probably,
but obviously no guarantees.> Or possible just try and train my little brother
to come over and do 1 larger one half way though the month?
<If you think your brother can handle it, I would pre-mix a couple of buckets of
salt water and have him make a couple of 5 gallon water changes. Otherwise it
might be worth trying to find a service company and pay them to do a water
change or two for you, but depends on cost. Otherwise your tank will probably
be mostly ok, may have some algae problems but otherwise ok. Make sure your
brother does not overfeed, maybe feed half as often as you normally do.>
Thanks
<Anytime and be safe.>
<Chris>
Water Changes/Stress
Do water changes promote stress in the fish?
<Should not, more beneficial than anything.>
My Porcupine puffer always freaks out after I do a water change and just sits on
the bottom motionless for hours, is this normal? should I worry? I always think
that he is going
to die. I have a 175 gallon fish only and I usually change 75 or more gallons
when I do the change. thanks for the help.
<Geez, how large is your tank. Depending on the frequency/amount of the water
change, it could cause some stress. If your tank is 150 gallons, and you are
changing 75 gallons once a month, and pH is not adjusted to match tank water,
some stress can result. Much better to do a 10 percent change weekly, or a 20
percent bi-weekly, and adjust pH to within .1 of the tank water.
James (Salty Dog)>
Water Changes...Natural Or Artificial Seawater 7/18/06
Hello,
<Hello James>
I am building a new tank with a volume of 1017 gallons
<Yikes! I'm jealous.>
not including displacement. I only have 12 fish totaling about 60 inches. This
is a very under stocked tank. I will have aqua medic skimmers running
as well. I was doing a 10% a week water change on my previous 300 gallon
tank. Is 10% a week still necessary for the new tank with
it being so under stocked? If not, what would you recommend?
<With your present condition, 10% monthly would be fine.>
My fish being happy is the number one thing for me. I like to check each fish
and look after them, rather than having loads of fish that
you don't get attached to as much. I want them to have loads of space.
<That they will.>
Also, most of the people here in Cape Town are using real sea water but I am
still using salt/ro water mix. Does real sea water harm the
system or is it safe enough to use?.
<Not a good idea, read here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/seawater.htm>
Kind Regards,
<And to you. James (Salty Dog)>
James.
Exposing Corals During a Water Change - 07/06/06
Hi crew,
<<Hello Deb>>
I have what might seem like a silly question, but I need to know so here goes.
<<Only "silly" if you don't ask...so ask away!>>
If you have corals in your tank and they are high in the tank and
can't move how do you change a significant amount of water, say 25%, if that
will unsubmerge your corals? Is it okay for them to be uncovered by water for
any length of time?
<<See, not a silly question at all...I have done what you describe many times
over the years. Your corals should fare just fine if briefly "exposed" during a
water change. A couple things you can do to help ensure they will remain fine
are... If you have any corals with large-fleshy polyps you should "gently" coax
them to expel their water/retract. This will prevent the weight of the water in
the coral's flesh from causing damage once buoyancy is lost due to the receding
water line... You can also turn off your lights to reduce the amount of heat the
corals will have to deal with while exposed. And don't be alarmed by the
presence of excess mucus once the corals are "rehydrated" as this is a normal
response to exposure to the atmosphere>>
I just haven't seen the answer to this and know I will have this dilemma soon
because my corals are somewhat in the upper part
of the tank and changing 1/3 to 1/4 of the water would uncover them for the
time it takes to finish taking out the old water and getting the new back in.
<<Not to worry Deb...is not unusual for many of the corals we keep to be exposed
to air in the wild during periods of low tide>>
Also, I am having a hair algae problem and have bought several critters that are
supposed to eat the stuff including turbo snails, large and larger, a blenny,
and a pretty big sea hare. None of them seem to find the hair algae at all
interesting.
Is this unusual?
<<Not at all. More often than not this is what happens. I'm afraid there are
no "magic bullets" (or magic critters) for dealing with hair algae. Biological
controls are always "hit and miss" as you have discovered. Best to try to
determine the cause and attack the problem from that perspective. Please do
have a read through our data on marine nuisance algae. Start here (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/avoidingalgaeproblesm.htm)
and also follow the many links at the top of the page. Much info to absorb>>
I have an opportunity to trade the sea hare for another one. Is it possible
that the new one might eat the hair algae even
though the big one doesn't.
<<Is a possibility, yes>>
The snails aren't interested in it either.
<<As far as snails go, the large Mexican Turbo is probably your best bet. You
mention a blenny but not which species...blennies from the genera Salarias and
Atrosalarias will be your best option for dealing with your hair algae>>
Thanks,
Deb
<<Quite welcome, EricR>>
Quality nano vacuum/s 7/2/06
Hi, I've got a six gallon nano tank (saltwater) and was wondering if you
guys know of a good quality, battery powered vacuum.
<Mmm, this is sort of a "conflict in terms"... that is to say, most all such
battery-operated vacuums are not of very high quality. However, the best of
these are made by Eheim (not easily found in the "west", but can be had...>
I want one that will clean debris from the sandbed and can also be used for
water change siphoning.
<Mmm, will need two for these tasks... I'd get a smaller diameter "regular" one
(Tetra has some smaller diameter ones that you can still find about) for the
latter purpose>
I've been surfing the web and have come across many different types/brands but
I can't tell which ones are of good quality. Can you guys point me in the right
direction? Thanks, and happy reefing, Greg
<Glad to proffer my opinions here. Have used many makes, models... the Eheim and
Tetra manufacturers are excellent. Bob Fenner>
Siphoning/Cleaning Marine Substrates - 04/26/06
I have been reading over emails for a while and I finally found what I was
looking for, but not the complete answer.
<<Ok>>
I read that in a reef tank, if you have crushed coral then you should siphon
during a water change.
<<Mmm, maybe...depending on depth of the substrate (<1")>>
If you have fine sand, you don't need to siphon.
<<More at play here than grain size/depth but generally yes, with good water
flow the finer grain sands are lees likely to accumulate detritus>>
Well, we have a 72 gallon tank with 3.5 inches of an even mixture of sand and
cc.
<<Mixed opinions on this...should be fine>>
Should we siphon and how deep?
<<I wouldn't disturb the DSB, but do some reading up on deep sand beds here (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/deepsandbeds.htm). If
detritus settling in/on the substrate is of concern then "up" the flow in your
tank to keep all in suspension>>
A greenish/brownish layer is starting to form about halfway down and I don't
know if I should disturb it.
<<This is algae that is triggered by the available light coming through the tank
front and likely does not extend very far in to the sand bed...nothing to worry
about>>
Also, since I am here, I have 50 lbs of live rock in the tank. I will be adding
50 more lbs that I have had in a separate tank for a month. Is this going to
change all of the parameters in the tank initially? I just wanted to prepare
myself before I see any spikes in my tests.
<<If the rock is fully cured it should not be a problem though having water
handy for a water change after the move (disturbing/stirring detritus) is a good
idea>>
Thanks,
Chris
<<Cheers, EricR>>
Holy Moley-Yes Folks Aquariums Need Maintenance To Function…… -
04/19/06
Hello,
<Hi Dan.>
I have very high nitrate levels in my 55 gal. tank.
<Uh-Oh!>
Can I get rid of these levels by using a combination of Aquarium salt and
Cycle?
<Huh? No……?
I don't want to, but if I have to I'll do the water changes,
<What? Not wanting to do water changes. Sir, excuse me if I sound bold but
if you don’t have the time to do at least weekly (ok maybe bi-weekly)….then
you should not own any type of aquaria.>
the only question I have about the water changes is...How long do I wait
after refill to start again, assuming I will need to do more than one water
change to bring the levels down?
<Read WWM re Water Changes for your answers my friend. I will say a few
consecutive daily water changes (10% to 25%) over the next week.>
Thank You,
<Mmm-hmm.>
Dan C.
<Adam J.>
Re: Holy Moley-Yes Folks Aquariums Need Maintenance To
Function.. - 04/19/2006
I'm sorry I didn't mean I don't do the water changes at all, what I was
saying was if I have to I will do the rapid water changes. I read where you
can reduce the nitrates in the tank rapidly by doing a 60% reduction, filling it
back up to 80% capacity, then doing a 40% reduction, filling it
back up to 100% capacity, then doing a 20% reduction and again filling it to
100% capacity. This is the water changes I was talking about, I own two
tanks and have had them quite awhile, so I'm very careful of my levels in both
tanks.
<Okay, sorry for the confusion. I don't like to perform LARGE changes in one
swoop, I would perform 25-30% water changes, but do about 5 of them, one a day
or one every other day over the course of the week or two. Also find the root
problem that are causing these nitrates to be so high.>
Dan C.
<Adam J.>
Water Changes/Marine/Continuous Water Changes 2/26/06
Hi WWM,<Hello Jason.>
Everything I have read regarding water changes in marine systems indicates that
smaller, more frequent
water changes are better than larger, less frequent ones (all else being equal,
of course). <Agreed> As an
engineer, this leads me to wonder if a continuous water change system would be
even better than small,
frequent, discrete changes. What I mean by this is a system that slowly but
continuously adds new saltwater
(from a separate mixing container) to the main system and drains existing water
to a waste sink (container
or down the drain) at the same time. This could be worked out to match the
average change rate of 10% per
week, more or less depending on tank size, inhabitants, etc. <Such water
changing devices are available.>
Do professionals make use of such open-loop systems? <Most do> Do public
aquariums use the ocean as a source/sink in
this manner? <Yes, aquariums near the coast practice this in an effort to cut
down operating costs. The Boston Aquarium for one has their saltwater intake
about one mile offshore for purity reasons.>
Thanks for your thoughts! <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Jason
Water Changes/Marine/Continuous Water Changes 2/24/06
Hi WWM,<Hello Jason.>
Everything I have read regarding water changes in marine systems indicates that
smaller, more frequent
water changes are better than larger, less frequent ones (all else being equal,
of course). <Agreed> As an
engineer, this leads me to wonder if a continuous water change system would be
even better than small,
frequent, discrete changes. What I mean by this is a system that slowly but
continuously adds new saltwater
(from a separate mixing container) to the main system and drains existing water
to a waste sink (container
or down the drain) at the same time. This could be worked out to match the
average change rate of 10% per
week, more or less depending on tank size, inhabitants, etc. <Such water
changing devices are available.>
Do professionals make use of such open-loop systems? <Most do> Do public
aquariums use the ocean as a source/sink in
this manner? <Yes, aquariums near the coast practice this in an effort to cut
down operating costs. The Boston Aquarium for one has their saltwater intake
about one mile offshore for purity reasons.>
Thanks for your thoughts! <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Jason
Water Changes - 2/21/2006
About how often and how much should I change out of a 30 gallon marine aquarium
with an Ocellaris pair, a Pygmy Angel, and two blue-green Chromis?
<<While I think a 30-gallon is too small for the Angel, I would change 5-10 gals
every week.>>
Thanks for your help,
<<Glad to help. Lisa.>>
Mike Lushbaugh
Water Change and Adding New Fish - 2/21/2006
To Whom this may concern,
<Hi there, Leslie here with you today>
I just change my salt water tank on Friday 02/17/06.
The water is cloudy and not healthy for my maroon clown fish, it also kill my
coral reef beauty
angel. Do I have wait for the tank to recycle again or it is safe to restock
new fish in there?
<I always like to wait a few to several weeks before adding fish to a tank that
has had any sort of problems. If your tank cycled properly initially you should
not have to wait for the tank to recycle after a routine water change. However
since you lost a fish and the water is cloudy I would suggest you test your
water for Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, pH and Specific Gravity. If the tests are
all fine it should be ok to add a new fish after a few weeks. Quarantining new
fish is always recommended to help minimize the risk of introducing disease into
an established healthy system.>
My maroon clown is in an emergency tank ( 20 gallons ) right now and looking
healthier.
Glad to hear your clownfish is looking healthier. Please do keep a close eye on
him and the water parameters in your “emergency tank”. If that tank is without
biological filtration you will need to be doing daily water changes.>
Thank You, Mickey
<You're very welcome, Leslie>
Water changing systems
I have recently been given a 400 gal. aquarium by a friend of the family.
<Lucky you.> I
have been reading about setting up new aquariums and could not pass up this
opportunity. The aquarium has everything that is needed and is running now. It
even has a wave machine. <Great> The gentleman had it set up as a reef tank and
lost most of his livestock after the FL hurricanes. My question is what is
the best way to do water changes in a tank this large. He has it piped into
his house and sewer system. I would like to start it as a reef/fish tank.
Is this a good idea? <Yes, do read on requirements/needs/maintenance, etc on our
web site. As far as water changing, a tank this large is going to require about
a 30 to 40 gallon change per week. I'd go with an auto water changing/top off
system. Here is a link to one you can read about.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=13959&Ntt=auto%20top%20off&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&pc=1&N=2004&Nty=1 James
(Salty Dog)>
Thanks, <You're welcome>
Steve Edmiston
Hydrogen Sulfide - 01/01/2006
Happy new year to you all,
<And to you Will.>
This weekend I had the pleasure of stripping down my 60(UK) gal marine tank for
the 2nd time, what a way to end the year but with a nice slow leak...? Anyway
all the rocks corals fish etc. are in a nice spare tank set up with heater,
filter, skimmer, and sand is in a vat with water and a powerhead. However my
sandbed seems to have been producing hydrogen sulfide instead of nitrogen, kind
of lucky the tank leaked in retrospect. The sandbed is about 4 inches deep I
should imagine, maybe a little under, I have a bout 240lph of flow through the
tank <excluding skimmer>. What's causing the hydrogen sulphide? Bed too shallow?
Not enough flow? Wrong bacteria proliferating?
<Anaerobiosis, organic build up. Flow must be leaving dead areas.>
And other than the smell what effects does this substance have? Suppressed pH or
is it actually toxic?
<Hmm....Being from lack of oxygen, the pH would be depressed, could have a
random "die off" of all livestock.>
FWIW soon I shall be upgrading from a Prizm skimmer to a v2skim 400, will this
help problems, the Prizm never really does much <other than irritate the family
with it's gurgling and bubbling>
<Will likely help as will better flow. Good surface turbulence will help gas
exchange.>
Thank you in advance,
Will
<You're welcome. - Josh.>
Water Changes and Adam's Discipline 12/10/05
Bob,
<Actually this is Adam J responding Bob is out right now. I’m responding now so that you know your query was received, I will respond now but will also place this
aside so he can respond later as well.>
We would like to know if you would give us a quote for the following: When making a water change in a marine aquarium:
How often and what percentage should be changed?
<This is highly variable depending on the set-up but personally I prefer at least 10% weekly at a minimum for
stability.>
What's the rule of thumb and can we put your name as the person quoting it?
<Well personally I’m not a fan of “rules of thumbs” of any kind, simply because there are far to many variables. Some systems are understocked some systems are overstocked. Some systems are big some are small. Some are shooting for a zero nutrient level some are shooting for a slightly
elevated nutrient level. However if I had to limit myself to one statement on water changes I would say, “As with anything water changes should be preformed with discipline. Plan out a routine that keeps your system stable and meets its needs and don’t vary from it.”>
Thanks
<See here as this may answer some more of your questions: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/scottsh2ochgart.htm.>_
Eric
<Adam J.> The microscopic world, speculations on FW, SW "Dead Sea" effect 11/15/05
Hello again,
<Hi there>
Jonathan here. Have acquired an Observer III microscope to help me diagnose fish problems where
I work. Both of the fresh and the salt.
<Another world awaits you>
I can do 40x, 100x, and 400x. I'll be getting another eyepiece so I can do 600x for that just a little bigger than 400x.
<Mmm, much larger>
I've been making dark field / oblique filters to try and see what I see.
<... I, not "i">
I don't want to invest in phase contrast just yet, unless I find out there's no other way. Have you ever
gotten decent resolution for searching for parasites at 400x with a dark field filter?
<Yes>
I have to use oblique by slightly moving my filter holder out alignment. That and sometimes giving myself a headache by closing down
the iris aperture all the way. I'll be getting a mount for a digital camera, so that
I may attach it to the
scope. May I send you an video for feedback?
<Yes>
I may make a website to share my progress with others.
<Outstanding>
I'll keep learning where I am, and try and take a course at my college to refresh my technique. I might have an opportunity to attend the diseases of
warm water fish seminar in Florida. Do you think it would be an improving
experience?
<Yes>
Or that by working in an aquarium store that I'll eventually see most of what they would show me.
<Oh no... a very good idea to have both experiences to draw from>
Two recurrent problems, which may even be related, in salt; is possible Brooklynella
running loose and cloudy eye. Coppersafe is at half dose continuously. Brook is said not to be affected by copper sulfate, which
would make sense. The way it looks on the fish is very much the description in books and internet. Have scoped a few scrapes, but
I'm too new to say "that's it". I'm taking action against it, but victory is not yet reached.
[course of action is freshwater baths sometimes with Meth blue 7 -15 min.s every 3 days about, but return to the same tank. I can't pull a clean tank
out of the air,
<...? But you can buy a scope?>
and by corporate all tanks need to be full, ha. I could shut off a tank from the central, remove the copper, and hit it with
Rid Ich+, which I'm considering, if my bath approach is not getting results..]
<Shotgun approaches are not encouraged>
Would it be possible that ich or velvet could be present in the gills of new fish at such a level to cause death without being present at all on the body
& treating at half dose of copper is not enough to solve the problem?
<Yes... a therapeutic dose is just that... less than is more harm than good>
Its a possibility I just recently considered. I think if I see encysted ich or velvet on a newly introduced fish, its probably just temporary. Until it
falls off divides and the copper kills the free swimming stage. Cloudy eye I think is caused by our water. Most things I read linked it to
environmental issues. Our nitrate is barley registering on our Jungle Quick dip stick, as accurate as that is. I think we may be exporting nitrate by
scrubbing algae, and removing and drying out Cyano infested crush coral substrate.
<Your speculation is worthy>
So that nitrate would not be an entirely accurate judge of the water quality. Only doing 30 gallons out every week or two, may not
adequate in a 900 gallon system.
<Uh, no>
I think we actually evaporating and topping off more than we are taking out and replacing. I've noted this on a
discus tank we had by using a TDS meter. The TDS value was much higher in the tank than the source water like 3 - 4 times.
<Like potted houseplants, these tanks need periodic large water change-outs to dilute solids...>
Even taking account whatever live plants died or bogwood adds, it gave me a way of showing the
problem. Ha, the TDS wouldn't work in saltwater, its over its limit. If hypothetically this we evaporating and replacing say 75 gallons a week, and
only did a 30 gallon water change a week. Could this lead to problems?
<Yes>
Wouldn't over time the whole of water become more mineral rich, and with all the
contaminants of the tap. This might lead to a cloudy eye problem.
<Agreed>
Too much contaminants, too much minerals, too much bacteria supported by those. Any
ideas? I've tried to keep this short.
Sorry and thanks,
Jonathan
<Do please learn to/use your spelling and grammar checking tools... a good learning experience. Bob Fenner>
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