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FAQs About Water Changes for Marine Systems 4
Related Articles: Marine Water Change,
The “Perfect” Water Change Regimen? by Scott Fellman,
Water Changes, Exchanges by Anthony Calfo,
Captive Seawater Quality,
General Marine Maintenance,
Related FAQs: Water Changes for Marine
Systems 1, Water Changes 2,
Water Changes 3, & FAQs on Water Changes:
Rationale, Gear/Tools,
Frequency/Amount, Techniques, Automation,
Trouble/shooting, & Water Top-Off
Systems, Evaporation/Water Make-Up,
Treating Tapwater, Marine
Water Quality, Marine Plumbing,
Water changes (w/o much change in chemistry, physics) re important
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Water Changes With No Fish? 6/19/09
Hey guys,
< Hello!>
I love the site! I just have a quick question.
< Well, Ok. Since its just a quick one. Ha Ha >
I've been in saltwater for over a year now but recently I got a new
tank.... I've had my tank set up for a few months now (29g BioCube
w/30lbs of LR).
No fish just yet, but I do have some coral in there. I've been testing
my water every week and every thing comes out perfect, corals are doing
very well also.
< Great! >
I'm not really planning on getting fish in the near future, I want to do
this right and take my time. Now let me get to the question, if I don't
have fish (no wastes being produced) do I have to do water changes every
week?... Thanks a lot guys. Mark-
< I'm a believer in water changes. The not only remove wastes (fish &
CORALS both produce waste)
but replenish trace elements. Regular water changes are a reefers best
friend. GA Jenkins >
Quick Question No Water Changes? 9/13/08 Hey guys, I want
to let you know that I appreciate what you do. <Thank you Jon.>
Now for the question. I've been arguing with my brother in law about the
idea of water changing. He claims that since his levels all test out as
good (which I double checked his water with MY test kit and all the
levels appear to be good) that he doesn't need to do water changes.
<There are other benefits, not just the dilution of what you tested
for.> He doesn't see the point in messing up a good thing. His fish
are good, haven't lost any in a couple of years. This is also how long
it's been since he's done a water change. He claims the water changes
were the reason he used to lose fish. What gives?? <All systems
will reach a tipping point without water changes, some take longer than
others. Regardless of how a fish looks it will be healthier in a well
maintained (read: water changed periodically) system. The benefits are
too numerous to list here; luckily WWM is a great resource with all of
this archived. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/water.htm and the linked
articles/FAQs at the top will arm you with the knowledge needed.> Jon
<Scott V.> Question, water changes 9/5/08
Hi! I am a little baffled by one of my customers. They don't believe in
water changes at all... They have heard of a friend that has had fish
for 40 years and never done a water change. <Nor likely cleaned their
carpets...> What do you think about this - if you have any
information on how people come up with this idea let me know so I know
how to handle my customer.. Thanks. Jim <Have them read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/water.htm Bob Fenner>
Re: Everything going bad 01/24/2008 Thanks so much for the
responses. <<Hello, Andrew again, thank you for the follow up>> I
broke down and got a R/O system because I got sick of driving to the LFS
to buy 5 gallon jugs of water (this isn't a cheap hobby by the way).
I've tried to read through the faqs on water for marine systems and I've
got some better understanding on how to handle water, but I've still got
some questions regarding storage and top off. <<No problem, we shall
get these cleared up for you today>> First off do I need to worry
about water top offs on a 55 gal tank with sump if I'm doing weekly 10%
water changes? Is this eventually going to raise my specific gravity
due to evaporation, or will the water changes take care of that?
<<Yes you do need to top off the water. If you don't, the Sg of the tank
will rise because the water evapourates, but the salt stays behind>>
If my SG does start getting away from where I want it what's the best
way to bring it back? By adding fresh water, or lower SG water changes?
<<If your SG is getting high, then only add RO water to bring this back
to acceptable levels>> If I do need to do top offs in small amounts
can I just use straight RO water into the sump as long as the
temperature is close? Or do I have to aerate, heat and let it sit
over night? (I'm trying to build good habits for a reef tank down the
road, but I don't want to spend hours each night keeping this thing
going) <<As long as the temp is average of the top off water, adding
it to the sump in small amounts is fine. Maybe consider
purchasing/setting up an Auto-Top off unit>> Second, when I'm "aging"
water should I age it as fresh water, or after I've aerated, heated and
added salt mix? <<I do it all in one go. I turn on the powerhead and
heater, add the weighted out salt to the water, leave for 24 hours.
Check levels and adjust over the next 24 hours. Then all is good and
ready to use>> Finally, do I only need to aerate 24 hours prior to
water change, or once it's been aerated can I store it like that? I'm
just trying to come up with a checklist of things I need to do. <<You
need it aerated 24 hours at least, I prefer 48 hours personally, before
use. This gives the water time to settle, and get to the right
temperature and SG to level>> I have a small house and storing
multiple trashcans full of water is going to be difficult for me, plus
the setup of my RO water system will make it very time consuming to fill
the trashcan so I'd like to get enough water to do multiple water
changes if possible. *** Kind of like this... ** Run R/O
water into Rubbermaid can Aerate with powerhead and heat over night
(longer?) Add salt mix to get up to 1.023 (what I'm currently at with
FOWLR system) Add buffer as needed Do water change ...store
water for a week Aerate and heat overnight Do water change
Repeat <<Yes, that sounds fine. I used to be in a similar situation.
I had one trashcan ( waste bin here in the UK ;) ) always full of RO
water. When it was coming time for water change I would remove the
required amount of water to a separate trashcan and add the required
salt, mix etc etc. Then store away the can after the water change till
next time. This way, you don't have lots of saltwater sitting in a trash
can without movement and heat>> Is that kind of right or should I
store it fresh after aerating and heating for top offs and only add
salt/buffer 24 hours prior to water change in smaller batches. <<See
response above>> Finally some non-water questions: <<Oh good>>
For my Aiptasia problem they're really only bad on a couple of rocks
(maybe 2 or 3 out of 10 or so). If I pulled these rocks and gave them a
real good cleaning would it affect the bio filter enough to make a
difference? How long does it normally take for dead rock to become live
rock? <<A good simple solution for Aiptasia removal is to fill a
syringe up with boiling water, and blast the Aiptasia directly, watch it
melt. Dead rock to live rock really depends on the amount of live rock
in the tank to seed the dead. Can be anywhere from a couple months, to 6
- 8 month, a bit too open-ended to answer more specifically>> What's
the best time to treat the Aiptasia with Kalkwasser and scrape
algae/bacteria to reduce stress on the fish? Right before/after a
water change, far from a water change? At night when they go into
hiding? (I forgot to mention this earlier, but one of my gobies ate a
big blob of Kalkwasser paste after I was treating the Aiptasia which may
have led to his disappearance) <<This will certainly not of helped
the fishes stomache..>> Sorry about all the questions. Chad
<<Thanks for all the questions, hope this helps. Please shout back if
you need some more clarity or more questions. Thanks, A Nixon>>
Water Change Maint. 1-11-2008 Hi <Hello there. Yunachin
here> I haven't been good about cleaning up the sand (via the siphon
hose) in my tank. When I do it can I recycle the water or do I need to
put in new water? <Whenever you remove any water from your tank in
the cleaning/siphoning task, you need to replace that water with clean
water of the same temperature as your tank. Here are some links to check
out in reference to what you need to do:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/water.htm ;
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/watchgantart.htm> Thanks <You're
welcome! Yunachin> Jim Water Change Technique
3/15/07 Dear WetWeb Media <Hello> After I got done
reading your last answer you sent me. I got to thinking about if I was
even changing water and cleaning the tank the right way. I have this
question for you. <Ok> When you do water changes and clean the filter
sock that I have in my sump, do you shut down the system, meaning the
pumps while you do this? <I do.> I hope this is not a crazy question for
you. <Not at all.. I just don't know the answer to it 100% I think I'm
right but I’m wrong a lot more than I’m right? <Me too.> Because I have
been turning the pump off when I do water changes I just thought that
was common sense. <Is to me, less chance of burning something out that
way.> Thank you for your time answering my 1000's of questions. Jeff
<Welcome> <Chris> Cleaning Crushed Coral 1/15/07
Hi, <Hi, Pufferpunk here> First of all, I love you guys' website
so keep it up. <Thanks, we try our best!> Here's my
situation: I have a 150 gallon fish only saltwater tank. The tank has
two Emperor 400s, a 15 gallon sump with a very powerful pump, a protein
skimmer, UV-sterilizer, two heaters and two compact lights. As far as
biological filtration, I have about 80-100 lbs of live rock and a 4"
substrate of crushed coral. The tank has been set up for almost two
years now. In the tank I have 6 Bartlett's anthias, a yellow Coris
wrasse and a firefish (forgot his full name.) <Nice
collection of fish.> Anyway, here's my dilemma: My substrate is
getting completely covered with some form of red algae and it looks
almost like a carpet. <Do a search for Cyanobacteria.>
This algae spreads to my rocks but not to my glass. <If it's Cyano,
it could take over everything.> I think it looks neat, so I'm okay
with it on my rocks but I'm afraid this will stop the biological
filtration from my crushed coral since parts of it get completely
covered. Now, my question is: Is there some type of cleaner fish that
works well on crushed coral? I thought about a sand-sifting goby but I
don't think most varieties would be able to sift the crushed coral
because it is so big. <I'm always surprised when I see
my watchman goby carrying large pieces of rubble & shells, into his
cave.> If there is no fish that will clean it, how do you recommend
taking care of the problem? Just vacuum it once a week or so?
<Yes> I've read that it's not a great idea to disturb the substrate
too often, because it will affect your anaerobic bacteria. <Not
true. With the kind of substrate you are using, it is recommended to
vacuum weekly, to prevent buildup of detritus & nitrates. Enjoy your
great tank! ~PP> Any information you can give me will help.
Thanks guys, Doug Water Change 12/21/06 Hi Guys,
<Hello> I have a Vision 180 FOWLR setup which I will call Tank 1 and
also a 88 Ltr FOWLR tank which I am setting up as a Seahorse/Caulerpa
tank which I will call Tank 2. I have set up Tank 2 with a view to farm
some food for my herbivores in the Tank 1 set up. <Ok, but may be some
better macro choices than Caulerpa.> I have a question on water changes.
Would it be possible to use water from Tank 2 for water changes ? i.e..
Water that has been biologically filtered by the Caulerpa. Process
being, drain half Tank 1 water, Drain half Tank 2 water. Put water from
Tank 1 into Tank 2 and vice versa. I know this looks complicated but
basically I would like a constant recycling process without having to
make up RO water on water changes. <Not really, this process will
not remove everything that needs to be nor add in important trace
elements and buffering agents that a conventional water change
would. Also the Caulerpa is quite active chemically which could have a
negative long term effect.> <Chris>
Water Changes VS
Water Top off; Apples VS Oranges? 11/27/06 <Hey
Clinton, JustinN here today.. No formal greetings? *grin*> I have a
125 gallon tank with 120 pounds of sand and 100 pounds of live rock that
is about four months old. The system is mainly all reef about fourteen
corals, which are mostly LPSs and a couple sps. There is
also a few fish. yellow tang, royal Gramma, two yellow tail gobies, two
small clown fish, Scotts fairy wrasse, and three chromis.
The chemical water environment is steady throughout the week with water
changes. I was just wondering since the water evaporates at almost five
gallons a week if it would be ok just to do water top offs instead of
complete water changes. <I do think you have a little bit of a
misunderstanding of water evaporation and water changes. They are not
interchangeable. Water top off is to maintain salt density at a proper
level, based on the evaporation. Water changes, on the other hand, are
used to remove waste from the water (whether they're detectible by tests
or not, they are still there) as well as replenishing trace elements and
natural balance to the water. Please don't reduce your husbandry skills
for this reasoning, if you're that concerned with the maintenance
involved with both topping off water, and water changes, set yourself up
an auto top off system. There are many commercially available, and DIY
projects abound to achieve this end. Hope this helps you! -JustinN>
Thanks a lot for the helpful information.? What about the
formal greetings? <Simply that all correspondence through our site
is posted, archived for all to see, and we tend to like a more formal,
proper form. It tends to make things easier to identify and follow. The
comment, however, was meant in jest and not intended as anything more.
-JustinN> Re: Q Tank Size -- Now, a follow-up
11/24/06 Hi Bob!, <Hey Q, JustinN with you today> More of
a comment here than a question (though I will sneak a question in
towards the end!) <Hehe, ok> Following the advice and good
reviews on this site, I replaced my Red Sea Prizm protein skimmer with
an AquaC Remora. <An excellent decision, IMO> I received the
unit about 1 week ago, gave it a quick cleaning with warm water and set
it into my tank. I was a little nervous at first because the unit was
not producing any skimmate at all. The bubbles didn't seem able to make
it even half way up the neck of the collection box... Having read
(here) that these units require a "break-in" period, I shelved my
concerns and sat back to wait. <Always a good idea with
a new addition, equipment-wise> After about the 3rd day of
operation, the skimmer appeared to suddenly kick into action, producing
a large volume of organic laden bubbles. With some minor tweaking (I
was very familiar with making tiny adjustments after my aggravating
experience with the Prizm) <I know this all too well, am awaiting
the arrival of my Tunze DOC 9002 to replace my Prizm as well...> I
had the skimmer producing a nice dry foam that resulted in a good volume
of dark skimmate... Much more than I'd ever seen from the Prizm.
<Excellent to hear> Thank you for the great advice. <Hehe, wish
I could take credit for this one *grin*> What do you think about the
twice a week, small volume (5%) water change regime outlined in detail
on your site? because I've noticed that my fish seems to react
positively to a water change, I was considering going with this
'system'. Would you vacuum the substrate every water change? (this is
not covered in the article). Will this be stressful to the fish? q
<I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment of twice weekly, lower
percentage water changes. I utilize a 3-4 gallon water change, twice a
week in my 40 gallon aquarium. Usually, I don't disturb the sand bed
unless there's a need. Instead, I use a small powerhead for water change
purposes. My storage container sits next to my aquarium, with the pump
laying in the bottom for circulation. I attach aquarium tubing to the
pump, then place the pump in my display. Using the hose and flow from
the pump, I start by blasting my rockwork clean and getting the gunk
into the water column. Next, I direct the water out of the tank into a
bucket for disposal. Then I simply toss the pump back into the storage
container, and return the water to the tank. I see no reason that this
would be stressful to the fish. Hope this helps you out! -JustinN>
A Grab Bag of Questions... Water changes/SW, UV use, Sponges as foods
11/19/06 Good evening WWM crew, hope all is well. I have a few
general questions for you, if you don't mind. First off, a good number
of aquatic-veterans agree that, in most properly planned and maintained
systems, smaller, more frequent water changes are more beneficial than
larger, less frequent changes. I was reading Scott F's article on doing
5% water changes twice a week, and was wondering if it would be just as
good, better, or worse to do 1 or 2% daily water changes? <Mmm,
possibly... the ideal would be to continuously change out a bit... as in
dripping in/out> Most of the information on daily water changes that
my search turned up referred to emergency situations and medicated
tanks. I currently live in an apartment and it would actually be easier
for me to mix up a quick <Ahh... better by far to pre-mix, let
age... per WWM...> 2 gallon (tank is 90g) batch of saltwater. And by
"easier" I mean that my girlfriend does not like the idea of having a
Rubbermaid trashcan full of water in the living room. <Can be
located elsewhere... pumped or bucketed...> I'd estimate, three
weeks of daily changes a month, and one week of a single 10% water
change so I could actually have time to vacuum the gravel. Any thoughts
or downsides?? <Time, trouble, spilling... mostly> Tank will be
(still in the planning process) a 90g FOWLR system, with a canister,
skimmer and maybe a UV sterilizer, (see next question.) I'm only picking
out 4 or 5 medium sized fish as Bob, Anthony, and others suggested in
various FAQs for this size tank. So, no major worries about the stocking
level. My second question is... Any idea how a UV sterilizer would
impact tunicate populations in a tank? <Mmm, possibly reduce
available foodstuffs... are filter feeders...> I was given one as a
gift, and figured I might as well hook it up, but was curious/concerned
about its possible effect on the free-swimming young of tunicates.
<Oh! These will likely be readily removed by skimming, predation... if
produced at all> My concern stems from the fact that I would like to
put a medium size angel in, and want there to be some live food
available. I love the Apolemichthys genus, <Will very likely consume
ascidians...> and it's not too hard to find retail specimens eating
prepared foods in my area. <You are fortunate here> But even if
it's eating, I'd like to provide the most complete diet possible. The
sterilizer takes a 9watt bulb and suggests 100 - 200gph for most
applications and I think around 50gph for parasites. I would prefer to
hook it up to my canister's output at 350gph, because in all honesty
this would make it much, much easier to clean, service, etc. Is it even
worth bothering at that flow rate? <Yes> I know that the extra
head (it's a "turbo-twist") will decrease the gph a bit, but I doubt
enough to meet ESU's recommended flow rate. Also, on the general subject
of feeding angels, is there any real risk to using most forms of "tree
sponges" as feeder sponge for angels?? <Mmm... some... many of
these... oh I see you address this below> Any concerns about
toxicity or decay?? <Yes> I have a small 36"x18" tank I'm using
to culture rock that I could quarantine the incoming sponge in. I've
read the warnings about most types of "ball sponges," but haven't heard
the same caveat about "tree sponges." If there are any major risks with
"tree sponges," is there any decent type of sponge to use as a feeder,
or is best to just rotate old live rock out and new live rock in?
<This last is more... preferable. Oriental food stores may be able to
supply you with useful Poriferans... in dried formats> (Shouldn't be
a hassle with the extra tank.) Any ways, thank you again for your help,
this wonderful site and your contribution to the hobby. <Welcome.
Bob Fenner> Vacuuming Gravel 10/12/06 Thank you
for your prompt response. I presume to begin the suction you need to
suck on the end of the hose? <Can, I use a turkey baster to start it,
few other methods out there too.> Also, how do you heat your small
tanks? I recently added a 7.5 watt heater to my tank but after having
left it overnight it doesn't seem to want to heat it above 76
degrees. <Can the temperature be adjusted? If not may want to get a
different model.> I'm not sure what temperature unheated water is so I
was wondering if this is hot enough. <Ok, a little low but stability is
more important than exact temperature for fish.> I know Bettas
prefer temperatures in the 80's. <Ideal> <Chris> Water Changes While Away
9/27/06 Hey guys... have a quick question for you. <Sure> I
have a 29 gallon reef with a 15 gallon refugium with some live rock, and
a nice big soccer ball size of Chaetomorpha underneath. <Nice> I have a
small hand full of small corals I can list them if you need, I have 2
clowns, a fire fish, and very very small red line angel.
My question is this. I am in the military and am deploying for just
round 30 days to the middle east. <Good luck and please be careful.> I
usually do 15% water changes every week and am usually very on the spot
for the husbandry of the tank. My problem is I really don't have anyone
that I can trust to do water changes and siphoning while I am gone. I
can have my brother feed them because all you have to do is get some
tank water and thaw a small chunk of the frozen food and feed the
anemone a cut up silver side 2 times a week. <Make sure he also knows to
top off with fresh water when necessary.> I will be gone 30 days with a
max of 45. Could I go the max 45 days without a water change?
<Probably, but obviously no guarantees.> Or possible just try and train
my little brother to come over and do 1 larger one half way though the
month? <If you think your brother can handle it, I would
pre-mix a couple of buckets of salt water and have him make a couple of
5 gallon water changes. Otherwise it might be worth trying to find a
service company and pay them to do a water change or two for you, but
depends on cost. Otherwise your tank will probably be mostly ok, may
have some algae problems but otherwise ok. Make sure your brother does
not overfeed, maybe feed half as often as you normally do.>
Thanks <Anytime and be safe.> <Chris> Water
Changes/Stress Do water changes promote stress in the fish?
<Should not, more beneficial than anything.> My Porcupine puffer
always freaks out after I do a water change and just sits on the bottom
motionless for hours, is this normal? should I worry? I always think
that he is going to die. I have a 175 gallon fish only and I usually
change 75 or more gallons when I do the change. thanks for the help.
<Geez, how large is your tank. Depending on the frequency/amount of the
water change, it could cause some stress. If your tank is 150 gallons,
and you are changing 75 gallons once a month, and pH is not adjusted to
match tank water, some stress can result. Much better to do a 10
percent change weekly, or a 20 percent bi-weekly, and adjust pH to
within .1 of the tank water. James (Salty Dog)>
Water
Changes...Natural Or Artificial Seawater 7/18/06
Hello, <Hello James> I am building a new tank with a volume of
1017 gallons <Yikes! I'm jealous.> not including
displacement. I only have 12 fish totaling about 60 inches. This is a
very under stocked tank. I will have aqua medic skimmers running
as well. I was doing a 10% a week water change on my previous
300 gallon tank. Is 10% a week still necessary for the new tank with
it being so under stocked? If not, what would you recommend? <With
your present condition, 10% monthly would be fine.> My fish being
happy is the number one thing for me. I like to check each fish and
look after them, rather than having loads of fish that
you don't get attached to as much. I want them to have loads of space.
<That they will.> Also, most of the people here in Cape Town are
using real sea water but I am still using salt/ro water mix. Does real
sea water harm the system or is it safe enough to use?.
<Not a good idea, read here. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/seawater.htm>
Kind Regards, <And to you. James (Salty Dog)> James.
Exposing Corals During a Water Change - 07/06/06 Hi crew,
<<Hello Deb>> I have what might seem like a silly question, but I
need to know so here goes. <<Only "silly" if you don't ask...so ask
away!>> If you have corals in your tank and they are high in the
tank and can't move how do you change a significant amount of water,
say 25%, if that will unsubmerge your corals? Is it okay for them to be
uncovered by water for any length of time? <<See, not a silly
question at all...I have done what you describe many times over the
years. Your corals should fare just fine if briefly "exposed" during a
water change. A couple things you can do to help ensure they will remain
fine are... If you have any corals with large-fleshy polyps you should
"gently" coax them to expel their water/retract. This will prevent the
weight of the water in the coral's flesh from causing damage once
buoyancy is lost due to the receding water line... You can also turn off
your lights to reduce the amount of heat the corals will have to deal
with while exposed. And don't be alarmed by the presence of excess
mucus once the corals are "rehydrated" as this is a normal response to
exposure to the atmosphere>> I just haven't seen the answer to this
and know I will have this dilemma soon because my corals are somewhat in
the upper part of the tank and changing 1/3 to 1/4 of the water
would uncover them for the time it takes to finish taking out the old
water and getting the new back in. <<Not to worry Deb...is not
unusual for many of the corals we keep to be exposed to air in the wild
during periods of low tide>> Also, I am having a hair algae problem
and have bought several critters that are supposed to eat the stuff
including turbo snails, large and larger, a blenny, and a pretty big sea
hare. None of them seem to find the hair algae at all interesting.
Is this unusual? <<Not at all. More often than not this is what
happens. I'm afraid there are no "magic bullets" (or magic critters)
for dealing with hair algae. Biological controls are always "hit and
miss" as you have discovered. Best to try to determine the cause and
attack the problem from that perspective. Please do have a read through
our data on marine nuisance algae. Start here (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/avoidingalgaeproblesm.htm)
and also follow the many links at the top of the page. Much info to
absorb>> I have an opportunity to trade the sea hare for another
one. Is it possible that the new one might eat the hair algae even
though the big one doesn't. <<Is a possibility, yes>> The snails
aren't interested in it either. <<As far as snails go,
the large Mexican Turbo is probably your best bet. You mention a blenny
but not which species...blennies from the genera Salarias and
Atrosalarias will be your best option for dealing with your hair algae>>
Thanks, Deb <<Quite welcome, EricR>>
Quality nano vacuum/s 7/2/06 Hi, I've got a six
gallon nano tank (saltwater) and was wondering if you guys know of a
good quality, battery powered vacuum. <Mmm, this is sort of a
"conflict in terms"... that is to say, most all such battery-operated
vacuums are not of very high quality. However, the best of these are
made by Eheim (not easily found in the "west", but can be had...> I
want one that will clean debris from the sandbed and can also be used
for water change siphoning. <Mmm, will need two for these tasks...
I'd get a smaller diameter "regular" one (Tetra has some smaller
diameter ones that you can still find about) for the latter purpose>
I've been surfing the web and have come across many different
types/brands but I can't tell which ones are of good quality. Can you
guys point me in the right direction? Thanks, and happy reefing,
Greg <Glad to proffer my opinions here. Have used many
makes, models... the Eheim and Tetra manufacturers are excellent. Bob
Fenner> Siphoning/Cleaning Marine Substrates - 04/26/06
I have been reading over emails for a while and I finally found what I
was looking for, but not the complete answer. <<Ok>> I read that
in a reef tank, if you have crushed coral then you should siphon during
a water change. <<Mmm, maybe...depending on depth of the substrate
(<1")>> If you have fine sand, you don't need to siphon. <<More
at play here than grain size/depth but generally yes, with good water
flow the finer grain sands are lees likely to accumulate detritus>>
Well, we have a 72 gallon tank with 3.5 inches of an even mixture of
sand and cc. <<Mixed opinions on this...should be fine>> Should
we siphon and how deep? <<I wouldn't disturb the DSB, but do some
reading up on deep sand beds here (http://www.wetwebmedia.com/deepsandbeds.htm). If
detritus settling in/on the substrate is of concern then "up" the flow
in your tank to keep all in suspension>> A greenish/brownish layer
is starting to form about halfway down and I don't know if I should
disturb it. <<This is algae that is triggered by the available light
coming through the tank front and likely does not extend very far in to
the sand bed...nothing to worry about>> Also, since I am here, I
have 50 lbs of live rock in the tank. I will be adding 50 more lbs that
I have had in a separate tank for a month. Is this going to change all
of the parameters in the tank initially? I just wanted to prepare
myself before I see any spikes in my tests. <<If the rock is fully
cured it should not be a problem though having water handy for a water
change after the move (disturbing/stirring detritus) is a good idea>>
Thanks, Chris <<Cheers, EricR>> Holy
Moley-Yes Folks Aquariums Need Maintenance To Function…… -
04/19/06 Hello, <Hi Dan.> I have very high nitrate
levels in my 55 gal. tank. <Uh-Oh!> Can I get rid of these
levels by using a combination of Aquarium salt and Cycle? <Huh?
No……? I don't want to, but if I have to I'll do the water changes,
<What? Not wanting to do water changes. Sir, excuse me if I sound bold
but if you don’t have the time to do at least weekly (ok maybe
bi-weekly)….then you should not own any type of aquaria.> the only
question I have about the water changes is...How long do I wait after
refill to start again, assuming I will need to do more than one water
change to bring the levels down? <Read WWM re Water Changes for your
answers my friend. I will say a few consecutive daily water changes (10%
to 25%) over the next week.> Thank You, <Mmm-hmm.> Dan C.
<Adam J.> Re: Holy Moley-Yes Folks Aquariums Need
Maintenance To Function.. - 04/19/2006 I'm sorry I didn't
mean I don't do the water changes at all, what I was saying was if I
have to I will do the rapid water changes. I read where you can reduce
the nitrates in the tank rapidly by doing a 60% reduction, filling it
back up to 80% capacity, then doing a 40% reduction, filling it back up
to 100% capacity, then doing a 20% reduction and again filling it to
100% capacity. This is the water changes I was talking about, I own
two tanks and have had them quite awhile, so I'm very careful of my
levels in both tanks. <Okay, sorry for the confusion. I don't like
to perform LARGE changes in one swoop, I would perform 25-30% water
changes, but do about 5 of them, one a day or one every other day over
the course of the week or two. Also find the root problem that are
causing these nitrates to be so high.> Dan C. <Adam J.>
Water Changes/Marine/Continuous Water Changes 2/26/06
Hi WWM,<Hello Jason.> Everything I have read regarding water changes
in marine systems indicates that smaller, more frequent water changes
are better than larger, less frequent ones (all else being equal, of
course). <Agreed> As an engineer, this leads me to wonder if a
continuous water change system would be even better than small,
frequent, discrete changes. What I mean by this is a system that slowly
but continuously adds new saltwater (from a separate mixing
container) to the main system and drains existing water to a waste sink
(container or down the drain) at the same time. This could be worked
out to match the average change rate of 10% per week, more or less
depending on tank size, inhabitants, etc. <Such water changing devices
are available.> Do professionals make use of such open-loop systems?
<Most do> Do public aquariums use the ocean as a source/sink in this
manner? <Yes, aquariums near the coast practice this in an effort to cut
down operating costs. The Boston Aquarium for one has their saltwater
intake about one mile offshore for purity reasons.> Thanks for your
thoughts! <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Jason
Water Changes/Marine/Continuous Water Changes 2/24/06
Hi WWM,<Hello Jason.> Everything I have read regarding water changes
in marine systems indicates that smaller, more frequent water
changes are better than larger, less frequent ones (all else being
equal, of course). <Agreed> As an engineer, this leads me to wonder
if a continuous water change system would be even better than small,
frequent, discrete changes. What I mean by this is a system that slowly
but continuously adds new saltwater (from a separate mixing
container) to the main system and drains existing water to a waste sink
(container or down the drain) at the same time. This could be worked
out to match the average change rate of 10% per week, more or less
depending on tank size, inhabitants, etc. <Such water changing devices
are available.> Do professionals make use of such open-loop systems?
<Most do> Do public aquariums use the ocean as a source/sink in this
manner? <Yes, aquariums near the coast practice this in an effort to cut
down operating costs. The Boston Aquarium for one has their saltwater
intake about one mile offshore for purity reasons.> Thanks for your
thoughts! <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)> Jason Water
Changes - 2/21/2006 About how often and how much should I change
out of a 30 gallon marine aquarium with an Ocellaris pair, a Pygmy
Angel, and two blue-green Chromis? <<While I think a 30-gallon is
too small for the Angel, I would change 5-10 gals every week.>>
Thanks for your help, <<Glad to help. Lisa.>> Mike Lushbaugh
Water Change and Adding New Fish - 2/21/2006 To
Whom this may concern, <Hi there, Leslie here with you today> I
just change my salt water tank on Friday 02/17/06. The water is
cloudy and not healthy for my maroon clown fish, it also kill my coral
reef beauty angel. Do I have wait for the tank to recycle again or
it is safe to restock new fish in there? <I always like to wait a
few to several weeks before adding fish to a tank that has had any sort
of problems. If your tank cycled properly initially you should not have
to wait for the tank to recycle after a routine water change. However
since you lost a fish and the water is cloudy I would suggest you test
your water for Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, pH and Specific Gravity. If
the tests are all fine it should be ok to add a new fish after a few
weeks. Quarantining new fish is always recommended to help minimize the
risk of introducing disease into an established healthy system.> My
maroon clown is in an emergency tank ( 20 gallons ) right now and
looking healthier. Glad to hear your clownfish is looking healthier.
Please do keep a close eye on him and the water parameters in your
“emergency tank”. If that tank is without biological filtration you will
need to be doing daily water changes.> Thank You, Mickey <You're
very welcome, Leslie> Water changing systems I have
recently been given a 400 gal. aquarium by a friend of the family.
<Lucky you.> I have been reading about setting up new aquariums and
could not pass up this opportunity. The aquarium has everything that is
needed and is running now. It even has a wave machine. <Great> The
gentleman had it set up as a reef tank and lost most of his livestock
after the FL hurricanes. My question is what is the best way to do water
changes in a tank this large. He has it piped into his house and
sewer system. I would like to start it as a reef/fish tank. Is this a
good idea? <Yes, do read on requirements/needs/maintenance, etc on our
web site. As far as water changing, a tank this large is going to
require about a 30 to 40 gallon change per week. I'd go with an auto
water changing/top off system. Here is a link to one you can read
about.
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=13959&Ntt=auto%20top%20off&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Np=1&pc=1&N=2004&Nty=1 James
(Salty Dog)> Thanks, <You're welcome> Steve Edmiston
Hydrogen Sulfide - 01/01/2006 Happy new year to you all,
<And to you Will.> This weekend I had the pleasure of stripping down
my 60(UK) gal marine tank for the 2nd time, what a way to end the year
but with a nice slow leak...? Anyway all the rocks corals fish etc. are
in a nice spare tank set up with heater, filter, skimmer, and sand is in
a vat with water and a powerhead. However my sandbed seems to have been
producing hydrogen sulfide instead of nitrogen, kind of lucky the tank
leaked in retrospect. The sandbed is about 4 inches deep I should
imagine, maybe a little under, I have a bout 240lph of flow through the
tank <excluding skimmer>. What's causing the hydrogen sulphide? Bed too
shallow? Not enough flow? Wrong bacteria proliferating?
<Anaerobiosis, organic build up. Flow must be leaving dead areas.>
And other than the smell what effects does this substance have?
Suppressed pH or is it actually toxic? <Hmm....Being from lack of
oxygen, the pH would be depressed, could have a random "die off" of all
livestock.> FWIW soon I shall be upgrading from a Prizm skimmer to a
v2skim 400, will this help problems, the Prizm never really does much
<other than irritate the family with it's gurgling and bubbling>
<Will likely help as will better flow. Good surface turbulence will help
gas exchange.> Thank you in advance, Will <You're welcome. -
Josh.>
Water Changes and Adam's Discipline 12/10/05
Bob, <Actually this is Adam J responding Bob is out right now. I’m
responding now so that you know your query was received, I will respond
now but will also place this aside so he can respond later as well.>
We would like to know if you would give us a quote for the following:
When making a water change in a marine aquarium: How often and what
percentage should be changed? <This is highly variable depending on
the set-up but personally I prefer at least 10% weekly at a minimum for
stability.> What's the rule of thumb and can we put your name as the
person quoting it? <Well personally I’m not a fan of “rules of
thumbs” of any kind, simply because there are far to many variables.
Some systems are understocked some systems are overstocked. Some systems
are big some are small. Some are shooting for a zero nutrient level some
are shooting for a slightly elevated nutrient level. However if I had to
limit myself to one statement on water changes I would say, “As with
anything water changes should be preformed with discipline. Plan out a
routine that keeps your system stable and meets its needs and don’t vary
from it.”> Thanks <See here as this may answer some more of your
questions:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/scottsh2ochgart.htm.>_ Eric <Adam
J.> The microscopic world, speculations on FW, SW "Dead Sea"
effect 11/15/05 Hello again, <Hi there> Jonathan
here. Have acquired an Observer III microscope to help me diagnose fish
problems where I work. Both of the fresh and the salt. <Another world
awaits you> I can do 40x, 100x, and 400x. I'll be getting another
eyepiece so I can do 600x for that just a little bigger than 400x.
<Mmm, much larger> I've been making dark field / oblique filters to
try and see what I see. <... I, not "i"> I don't want to invest in
phase contrast just yet, unless I find out there's no other way. Have
you ever gotten decent resolution for searching for parasites at 400x
with a dark field filter? <Yes> I have to use oblique by slightly
moving my filter holder out alignment. That and sometimes giving myself
a headache by closing down the iris aperture all the way. I'll be
getting a mount for a digital camera, so that I may attach it to the
scope. May I send you an video for feedback? <Yes> I may make a
website to share my progress with others. <Outstanding> I'll keep
learning where I am, and try and take a course at my college to refresh
my technique. I might have an opportunity to attend the diseases of warm
water fish seminar in Florida. Do you think it would be an improving
experience? <Yes> Or that by working in an aquarium store that
I'll eventually see most of what they would show me. <Oh no... a very
good idea to have both experiences to draw from> Two recurrent
problems, which may even be related, in salt; is possible Brooklynella
running loose and cloudy eye. Coppersafe is at half dose continuously.
Brook is said not to be affected by copper sulfate, which would make
sense. The way it looks on the fish is very much the description in
books and internet. Have scoped a few scrapes, but I'm too new to say
"that's it". I'm taking action against it, but victory is not yet
reached. [course of action is freshwater baths sometimes with Meth
blue 7 -15 min.s every 3 days about, but return to the same tank. I
can't pull a clean tank out of the air, <...? But you can buy a
scope?> and by corporate all tanks need to be full, ha. I could shut
off a tank from the central, remove the copper, and hit it with Rid
Ich+, which I'm considering, if my bath approach is not getting
results..] <Shotgun approaches are not encouraged> Would it be
possible that ich or velvet could be present in the gills of new fish at
such a level to cause death without being present at all on the body &
treating at half dose of copper is not enough to solve the problem?
<Yes... a therapeutic dose is just that... less than is more harm than
good> Its a possibility I just recently considered. I think if I see
encysted ich or velvet on a newly introduced fish, its probably just
temporary. Until it falls off divides and the copper kills the free
swimming stage. Cloudy eye I think is caused by our water. Most things I
read linked it to environmental issues. Our nitrate is barley
registering on our Jungle Quick dip stick, as accurate as that is. I
think we may be exporting nitrate by scrubbing algae, and removing and
drying out Cyano infested crush coral substrate. <Your speculation
is worthy> So that nitrate would not be an entirely accurate judge of
the water quality. Only doing 30 gallons out every week or two, may not
adequate in a 900 gallon system. <Uh, no> I think we actually
evaporating and topping off more than we are taking out and replacing.
I've noted this on a discus tank we had by using a TDS meter. The TDS
value was much higher in the tank than the source water like 3 - 4
times. <Like potted houseplants, these tanks need periodic large
water change-outs to dilute solids...> Even taking account whatever
live plants died or bogwood adds, it gave me a way of showing the
problem. Ha, the TDS wouldn't work in saltwater, its over its limit. If
hypothetically this we evaporating and replacing say 75 gallons a week,
and only did a 30 gallon water change a week. Could this lead to
problems? <Yes> Wouldn't over time the whole of water become
more mineral rich, and with all the contaminants of the tap. This might
lead to a cloudy eye problem. <Agreed> Too much contaminants, too
much minerals, too much bacteria supported by those. Any ideas?
I've tried to keep this short. Sorry and thanks, Jonathan <Do
please learn to/use your spelling and grammar checking tools... a good
learning experience. Bob Fenner>
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