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FAQs About Water Changes for Marine Systems: Trouble/Fixing
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The “Perfect” Water Change Regimen? by Scott Fellman,
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Water Changes 4, & FAQs on Water Changes:
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Suspended Particles/Hosting Christmas 12/25/08
Hello! Great website and a great service you provide! <Thank you
Aaron> Here's my setup and "dilemma". I'd really appreciate any help
and direction you may be able to give me. 75 gallon saltwater
aquarium w/ live rock, no coral Two small powerheads at top of tank
agitating surface One large powerhead in middle (height) of tank on
opposite side of filter Hang on back filter The "dilemma" is I did
a water change two days ago (Sunday) and the water in the aquarium is
still pretty cloudy with suspended particles. Normally, I'd just wait
and let the filter suck it out and the particles to settle naturally.
However, we are hosting Christmas tomorrow and my wife wants that water
crystal clear! Any suggestions on how to speed up the process? <Mmm,
really best to just "let time go by" here... But we should discuss, ask
you re what might be the cause/s here... Do you pre-mix and store your
water? A very good idea... as municipal supplies can be "variable" in
their make-up... and much of this can be discounted by mixing/storing...
Have you changed a product (salt mix, supplement) here recently? Or
altered your tanks water chemistry in some way? Some types of
"precipitation" are spurred on in this way... I would NOT use a chemical
"clarifying agent"... too likely to cause real trouble here> I've
shut off the powerheads and left the filter on (and cleaned it out
again) so hopefully that can help. Any other ideas or should I leave the
powerheads on? <I would leave all on for sure> Thank you so much
for your help and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Sincerely,
Aaron K. <Thank you. There are mechanical filters one can rent or
buy, and use temporarily to remove/sieve out such particulate matter
(e.g. "Diatom" filters), but if it were me, I'd just leave all as is...
And read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_4/V4I2/Water_Makeup/makeup_water.htm
and the linked files at the bottom. Bob Fenner>
Water change issue/pH, FOWLR spg, Crypt... 10/23/08 Hello,
<Hi> I've been having an issue that I just started to realize
recently. I have been conducting water changes, and finding that the
next day my pH is rather low. Around 6.5. <In the tank? Does it stay
here consistently?> However when I test my water prior to putting it
into the tank the pH is perfect. I believe this is due to the oxygen
being generated by the pump mixing the salt and everything else in the
tub prior to me pumping it into the tank. My tank is a 120 FOWLR. I
usually conduct 30-50% water changes every 2-3weeks. So basically that's
one issue, is how do you think i can go about balancing out my PH more
efficiently right around water changes. <How long are you mixing
your water for before adding it to your tank, make sure you allow 24
hours for everything to mix correctly and stabilize. Also do you buffer
your water change water prior to adding the salt? See here for more
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marphalk.htm > What is the ideal salinity
for a FOWLR? I do have live rock, and nice purple coral growing. I keep
it usually around 1.019-.21 <Too low, close as possible to natural
levels, 1.026, the creatures in your tank have spend thousands of
generations adapting to this fairly stable parameter.> What do you
guys think about the AquaC Urchin Pro in sump skimmers? <Love
Aqua-C.> And for a future reference, what's a good way to treat ich
without medication? <The only way I know of is using the tank swap
method, where you switch the fish between 2 bare bottom tanks,
completely cleaning and drying the tank not in use.> Or perhaps help
prevent it, or stop it from getting worse during beginning stages.
<Quarantine, Quarantine, Quarantine, and have I mentioned Quarantine?>
I've been told to soak food in garlic extract... <Not useful for ich
treatment, or much of anything really, does seem to stimulate a fish's
appetite a bit, but so do many other products that also add value to
your fish's food. A nice article from Steven Pro
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php > Thanks,
Sam <Welcome> <Chris> Water change? to
Mr. Fenner, How are you Robert? <Very well my friend, thank you>
I have a quick question. I have been recently bringing down a high
nitrate environment. I have a 180 gal tank and have been doing about 40
gallons at a time. When I did my last water change everything in my tank
stopped moving and shriveled. I use tap water with declorenease. It sits
with a large power head overnight. <Hmm, a dangerous protocol...
Please read through the "Seawater Use" section on our site:
www.WetWebMedia.com and you will find I encourage a good week of mixing,
waiting ahead of such new water use...> When I had checked my
salinity the first time they were both the same. Afterwards I realized
that the hydrometer was broken. My new readings are 1.022, nitrates are
at 40, nitrites are 0, and ammonia is 0, ph is 8.4. I believe that the
salinity may have been off now, The clams have folded in on themselves
but are still alive. some of the snails died but seem to be coming out
of shock. All of the corals are wilted and shrunken in. The zooanthids
are closed. They all secreted some sort of slime, I am assuming as a
protection. <yes, likely... and maybe from chemicals in the new
synthetic in addition to or instead of a difference in spg...> My
question what to you does it sound like I did wrong. And will my corals
and clams survive? Desperately needing advice, Ryan Alexaki <All
will likely be fine... Do look into reducing your nitrates in other ways
other than dilution ("Nitrates" FAQs on the WWM site), use of "Macro
Algae" and perhaps more live rock... a deep sand bed, maybe a plenum
set-up in an attached sump... and do develop a solid routine of
pre-making your seawater (with a marked volume in the tub, and a
container of about the right volume for the sea salt... to get the spg
about right, and let aerate, heat for a good week ahead of use. Bob
Fenner> Algal blooms with water changes Hi Bob Hope
you are doing well these day's. I have a question about my water
changes. I make up my water about 7 day's before I do the initial
change. My salinity is a steady 1023.Every time I do my water change, I
seem to get an alga bloom. All of my readings are, calcium 450, alk
11dkh,ph8.3, no nitrate or phos. detectable. Do you know what is causing
this?? <Possibly silicates (SiO2)... or other "rate limiting"
material in the source water...> I don't have a algae problem until I
change the water, hope you can help, everything in my tank looks great.
As always ,thank you very much. <Look into an inexpensive reverse
osmosis unit. One with a "carbon" contactor filter in its flow path. Bob
Fenner> Water changes (mal-affects causes) Hi Bob, A
quick input if you will...what's wrong with my fish after water
change??? My yellow tang swims around in circles & gets dizzy
looking. A couple of water changes ago, I lost a damsel; so I'm
wondering what's killing my fish or almost killing my fish. I change 5
gallons a wk & 10 gallons during any major tank clean of my 55 gallon.
So, what's affecting my fish the most? The temp of my new water?? The
salinity of new water?? Low oxygen of new water?? or just changing out
to much water. All of the above! I do match the new water with tank
water pretty good, I think...I guess what I'm trying to ask, what are
fish most sensitive to during water change?? thanks, Lee Harris
Dallas, TX <Very good question... and "who knows?"... perhaps all the
above. My ongoing advice can be found under "Seawater"... on the WWM
site... pre-mix and store it... Bob Fenner> Water change bubbles
Bob, Once again, I turn to the master. In trying to raise the PH
which was just slightly low, I did my first water change in my new tank
(live sand only, so far-LR tomorrow). I got a bazillion fine bubbles in
the tank. They were just flowing out of the Bak Pak 2 water return in a
cloud. I put filter floss over the opening of the return pipe but it
didn't help much so I turned off the air to the skimmer. surely this
isn't normal. What am I doing wrong? <Likely not much... maybe some
hygroscopic particles came in with the water change... and your system
is new (and will become less "bubbly" with age)... but the Bak Paks do
have this propensity... You might want to rig up a "dump area" like a
hang on device in the tank... with more material (bioballs, Dacron...)
to dissipate these for now... Bob Fenner> I hope by now you have
recovered from your "working" vacation but, I have found with age, it
takes a "few hours" longer. <Wowzah, been back for two weeks and am
way past due for getting out again!> Thanks for the help. Thom
Walters Water
Changes Stressing Yellow Tang. Hi WWM Guys, <Cheers,
Glenn> I don't know how my FOWLR tank got by until I found y'alls
site. <whew... a lot of pressure answering this query with a lead
off like that <wink>> I perform a 10 gallon salt water change
each week for my 75 FOWLR tank. <very nice schedule> Every
time, my Yellow tang seems to stress out for a day or so. Then he
goes back to his normal self. <hmmm...odd and shouldn't be>
The new water is usually w/in a degree of the tank water. PH & SP
are the same. I siphon water from the bottom of the tank and then
slowly pump new water back into it. Would a sudden reduction in
Nitrates stress a fish? <a little... > I would not think so.
I've recently started using aged tap water. However, he reacted the
same way w/water from the LFS. They use RO for their water supply.
Any ideas, what I'm missing here? <do check the other components
(Alk, Ca, etc)... but you may simply have a skittish individual. Are
the other fish generally undisturbed by it? Perhaps the bright
lights with the water level drop shock it... eh, maybe not <wink>.
Your YT may be just sensitive> Thanks again, Glenn <kindly,
Anthony>Re: Water Changes Stressing Yellow Tang. Thanks
for the advice Anthony. <Steven Pro this morning.> My other
fish hide during the change, which is done with the lights turned
out. Afterwards they come out and go about their normal routine.
Here in North Texas, we're blessed with hard tap water. Although
it's murder on plumbing fixtures with rubber o-ring valves) PH is
usually 8.0 - 8.1 ..I guess my YT is just sensitive. BTW, his
ailment (Velvet or Gill Flukes) are gone. I took your advice and
gave him daily FW Dips for 8 days. Of course he did not go
willingly. I had to remove all the LR every day to catch him though.
<I think I know why you Yellow Tang is nervous about you doing
something in the tank :).> Do you have any advice for catching
fish in tanks full of LR? <Feeding then scooping quickly with the
net or using a small barbless fishing hook. Once you catch them the
first time, it is far easier on you and your fish to place them into
a bare bottom quarantine/hospital tank with easily removable inert
decorations.> Thanks, Glenn <You are welcome. -Steven Pro> |
Chloramine Deaths. Hi There, <cheers!> Recently, I've had
deaths in my tanks directly after partial water changes that must have
been chloramine-related. <Not likely... more commonly a discrepancy
in temperature or pH. Do you really have so much Chloramine that you can
smell it from feet away? Most dechlorinators easily neutralize this
treatment> I unfortunately used a "one-step" product for my water
changes that I will never use again. <do reconsider that most every
Dechlor product is virtually identical in efficacy> A friend told me
about your site. I'm glad he did! I've did a good deal of reading of
your site. I'm intrigued about your "vat method," -- letting water sit
or be mixed for a week or more before being added. <chlorine will
dissipate in open air but chloramine never will... a chemical bond that
must be broken (with a de-Ammoniating product.. most conditioners)>
My question is, what will this method do, if anything, to "toxic
metals?" <absolutely nothing> Should I be concerned about this?
<hmmm... rare in potable tap water. If concerned, get a prefilter
stuffed with PolyFilter pads to draw water through> Thanks! Walter B.
Klockers Plano, TX <best regards, Anthony Calfo> Top-Off
Water pH Problems Sorry to bother you with another question again
so soon, but I am at a loss as to what to do about my top-off water's
pH. <No problem.> I purchase RO water from my LFS. I've tried
Kent's Osmo-Prep as well as Seachem's Marine Buffer, but what keeps
happening is that the pH is fine as soon as I add it to the RO water,
but by the next day the water is highly acidic and below my pH test
scale. I aerate the water as soon as I bring it home and keep it aerated
as I use it throughout the week, but it will not maintain an acceptable
pH. What I'm trying to do is have freshwater constantly aerated and pH
adjusted so that I can just pour it in the tank once or twice a day to
make up for evaporation. Can you recommend a way to do this? Or do I
need to pH adjust the top-off water each and every time I add it?
<You should not need to keep adding buffers everyday. Perhaps you are
just testing too quickly and the RO water has not had enough time to mix
with your buffers. I use Seachem Reef Builder and Marine Buffer, about
1/2 teaspoon of each for every five gallons, and have not had a
problem.> Thanks so much again for your assistance! Karen <You are
welcome. -Steven Pro> Water Change & pH Problems Dear
Mr. Fenner, I have recently diluted my 100 gallon tank from 1.024 to
1.022 during a water change and observed a drop in PH from 8.2 to 7.9. I
have checked the water quality from Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate, almost
zero concentration. Water buffer is still high. However, the PH remains
below 8.0. What should I do? Change more water? <Usually the best
move. I would first double check the pH and alkalinity of the new water
to ensure it is in the proper range. Please search through WWM regarding
saltwater mixing issues.> Best regards! I-Ching Liao <You are
welcome. -Steven Pro> Re: Ammonia Bob, <<Not Bob, JasonC
here...>> I believe I may have found the source of my ammonia problem.
<<ok>> I vacuum the substrate surface ever time I do a water change
every week (approx.. 13% removal) and my ammonia was still traceable.
The tank has been running for 2 years, I have never had this problem
before. I clean all of my filters every week. What the problem was is
that I was not vacuuming deep enough, the tank has a 1-1/2" s deep sand
bed and I realize that the fish waste and other junk was not just on the
surface, but deeper in the sand bed. How often should you move around
LR? <<Whenever the mood strikes. If I were you, I'd look into perhaps
some more or larger powerheads in the tank so that some of this detritus
makes its way into your filters and not into the sandbed. Constant
vacuuming of the sand bed will disrupt the ability to produce/harbor
beneficial organisms like copepods and the like that would normally deal
with the detritus for you.>> Thanks <<Cheers, J -- >>
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