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Eheim 2028 losing prime\sucking air 4/23/2009
Hey Guys,
<Hi Wes.>
My name is Wes, I just purchased an Oceanic 120 gallon tank, I chose
the Eheim 2028 canister to filter this tank.
<A good filter. Will last years with proper maintenance.>
After I put everything together, I started the system, and found
that when I try to put the water flow to the
maximum setting, It starts to get air bubbles in the intake line,
then stops cycling the water.
<Hmm, you have an air leak somewhere in the intake.>
The pump continues to run, but the water is not flowing through the
tubes.
This unit also came with aftermarket intake and spray bar.
made by Eheim which I have installed.
<I have the same setup, it is a very good kit. - Did you put all of
the o-rings on and lubricate them when you put the intake and
discharge pipes together?>
When the unit stops cycling the water, I can push the primer down a
few times and the unit will cycle for about ten seconds then stop
again.
<Priming freed the airlock on the pump.>
This unit also has a flow rate indicator on the return. When I put
the flow rate to max the indicator turns completely orange (meaning
the system is blocked). I have taken the media baskets out two times
now to ensure that the intake tube is positioned correctly (which it
appears to be). Could it be that the aftermarket pieces are causing
this problem?
<Seems to be - I think you have something not set up correctly -
missing or rolled o-ring.>
What other suggestions do you have to rectify this problem?...
<Take the intake apart and make sure everything is assembled
properly.
Look for any physical defects in the tube as well.>
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind I have
never dealt with a canister filter before..:) Thanks for any help
you can offer!
<My pleasure>
<Mike>
Re: Eheim 2028 losing prime\sucking air 4/24/2009
<Hi Wes>
Okay...found the air bubble problem...I had a rolled O-ring at the
top of the intake tube (good call on that one by the way! ).
<Thank you.>
The filter runs continuously now, but when I try to put the water
flow on max the water flow indicator still goes orange indicating
there is a blockage.
The filter is still cycling fine, just with the orange indicator.
Could this be because the spray bar is about 2 inches under the
water, so the flow meter is registering this added pressure?
<Bingo.>
Again any advise would be greatly appreciated!
<In my 150 gallon FOWLR, I removed the spray bar entirely. and just
had the elbow just under the surface of the water. If you want to
keep the spray bar, do get it closer to the waterline.>
Thanks
<My pleasure, Mike>
Canister Filter Questions: Eheim in a SW setup. 4/23/2009
Hi,
<Hi Sherri.>
I just purchased an aquarium on Craig's list and got it home and now
I need help.
<OK>
I had a Oceanic Saltwater aquarium several years ago and I actually
had a lot of luck with it and would like to try one again.
<Welcome back to the hobby.>
This aquarium is about 100 gal and it has the EHEIM Professional
2226 filter.
<An excellent filter when properly maintained.>
My question is can this filter be used for a Saltwater tank?
<It can be used for a saltwater tank provided it does not have the
integrated heater.>
If so what other things do I need, like a Protein skimmer and what?
<You should definitely use a protein skimmer. Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/proskimrart2.htm >
Any help at this point would be great and as I said I am familiar
with the saltwater tank but I had the Oceanic where everything was
built-in on the back of it...I looked at the EHEIM site and can not
find if this filter can be used for Saltwater or if it is Freshwater
only. If you know please let me know so I can get it set-up.
<It will be fine for saltwater. Do realize that while canister
filters are useful for a saltwater setup, they do need more frequent
maintenance - it will need to be cleaned every week to two weeks.>
Thanks
<My pleasure>
Sherri
<Mike>
Eheim 2026 Priming 11/15/08 Hello gang. I know you are big
proponents of Eheim canisters. I cannot get my Eheim 2026 to prime.
Do you have any suggestions. <If the priming feature is not working,
you can disconnect one of the hoses near the top of the tank. Then use a
funnel and pour water down into the unit. Reconnect the hose and you
will be good to go.> Thanks for your help. <Welcome, Scott V.>
Eheim Canister Flow Rate 8/1/08 Hi WWM Crew, <Krissy> I
have been searching for some time for the answer to this question (I
have even called Eheim directly). My question is how does Eheim
calculate their listed flow rate for canister? <By measuring the
flow, I know, had to say it!> I know most brands list their flow
rates as what the max flow will be if the canister was empty and ran
without media. It seems to me that Eheim has lower flow rates than other
brands but still lists them as able to handle larger capacity aquariums.
For ex: Marineland c-series 360 is rated at 360 gph and recommended for
up to 100 gallon tanks. Eheim pro II 2126 lists a flow rate of 250 gph
but is still recommended for 100 gallon aquariums. Is Eheim more
accurate at listing the flow rate in a real world situation (i.e. filled
with media)? <I personally cannot speak to the method Eheim uses to
rate their flow capacity. But, there are two points worth mentioning
regarding this. First, Eheim is known for making the best of the best
canister filters for good reason, they work great, extremely reliable
and user friendly. Second, do not confuse flow rate with filtering
capacity. A 250 gph flow is plenty to filter a 100 gallon aquarium. The
ratings have many other factors, such as media capacity and
effectiveness.> Thanks for the help! Krissy <Welcome, I hope
this gives you some insight. I have used many canisters over the years,
Eheim products being a fav. Scott V.>
Eheim leaks... Not likely 05/23/08 Hi Guys, I am just
writing to ask if you can tell me a place to have my Eheim filter
repaired. I had a friend go over it but it still seems to leak up near
the top. <... very unusual. I sold Eheim for decades... am out in
Germany at the Interzoo trade show... just spoke with them/DanielS
ayer... they don't leak...> It leaks on the top where the pipes go
in. If you have advice about how to repair it or a place to have it
repaired I would appreciate your help. The filter says Professional II
(it was given to me with no instructions) Thank you , Marshall
Murdock <Mmmm, I would turn the unit off, drain the lines. Screw the
compression nuts back, remove the green flexible tubing... cut this
back/off an inch or so to new... warm up the new ends (in hot water)
wiggle/jiggle them on over the intake and return fitting expansions...
thread the compression nuts back over... and see if the line/s still
leak. They shouldn't. Bob Fenner>
Hi! Questions about Eheim media... 1/6/2008
Hi! First off, thanks for all of the VERY helpful information on your
site. I've been spending a lot of time researching things before I set
up my newest freshwater aquarium, and your site has helped a great deal.
Thank you! <You're welcome.> I have a new 90-gallon tank in my new
home that has been waiting for me to have enough money to work on. I am
finally ready to start. <Very good.> I've had two 10-gallon and a
29-gallon freshwater tanks before, and I loved them. I had very good
success with them. But I was using Bio-wheel over-the-rim filters in
them, and now since I am setting up a 90-gallon, I am going to be using
my first canister filter. I'm a bit nervous about it :) <Don't be.
Canister filters have improved dramatically over the years, and most are
very easy to install and maintain. The two things to always have at hand
are a bucket and a towel though, because even though modern filters come
with taps and valves to prevent leaking, there's always a little water
left behind that can get out. I highly recommend setting up your filter
one time with the tubes stuck in a bucket of water. Do this in the
kitchen or on the porch. Go through the process of setting up and then
taking apart. It's much easier to learn this by practising first, than
figuring it all out when the filter is wedged in a cabinet under the
aquarium!> I purchased an Eheim Professional III model 2180 (the one
with the heating element). I'm waiting for it to arrive, but I'd like
your expertise on what kind of media I should fill it with. I've
searched the FAQs and articles, and found that Bob recommends Eheim's
Grob and Fein Flocken, but I am getting quite confused... <Every
aquarist has favoured media, but the bottom line is they're all pretty
good, and if you decide to buy according to budget and availability, you
can't really go wrong. That said, there are a few brands that get the
nod in terms of being that little bit better than the rest. But any such
differences will be minor, and not the sorts of things that end up with
dead fish!> First, the Eheim products all have non-US-friendly names
to them... <German products, German names... I'd imagine most Germans
find words like "Hummer" and "Pop Tart" pretty silly sounding, too!
Anyway, the Ehfi- part of the name is some sort of standard prefix, like
"Mc" at McDonalds. The second part of the name describes the media. So
EhfiSubstrat is Eheim Substrate (='Substrat' im Deutsch) for biological
media; EhfiTorf is Eheim Peat (='Torf'); and so on. In the same way
McNuggets are McDonalds brand of mechanically-recovered minced chicken
carcass shapes bound together with salt and skin.> second, the Grob
and Fein Flocken is a little hard to find... and third, being that this
is my first canister filter, I'd like your expertise on what I should
fill it with, and just as important, in what order (from top to bottom).
<This is quite easy to figure out. Look at the flow of water first. You
put mechanical media (media to remove silt) in the first compartment(s),
and biological media (media to remove ammonia) in the later
compartment(s). The idea is you want to remove the silt before the silt
suffocates the bacteria. Simple as that. Beyond this basic rule, you can
pick and choose whatever you want.> I wouldn't waste your time if I
didn't look throughout the FAQs already for a nice breakdown of what
media you recommend in it and in what order. The info I found is kind of
recommends products here and there, but what I'd find very helpful is if
you could recommend something like: Top layer: Ehfi-ooga (this will
trap large particles) Next layer: Ehfi-booga (this will do x) Next
layer: Ehfi-oogey (this will do y) Bottom layer: Ehfi-boogey (this
will polish) ...etc :) <I'd go with some sort of filter wool for
the first compartment, coarse filter media for the second, and then the
last two both biological filter media. Using Eheim products, that'd be
something like EhfiSynth, EhfiMech, and then two lots of EhfiSubstrat
(or EhfiSubstrat pro). But there's no need to restrict to just Eheim
brands. Siporax filter media is at least as good for biological
filtration, and filter wool is much the same whoever makes it, and the
point to filter wool is that you CHANGE it regularly. If I was keeping
clean fish (like tetras) then going with 1 x mechanical media and 3 x
biological media would be possible. But if the fish are messy (like
cichlids) then 2 x mechanical media and 2 x biological media is more
sensible.> Thanks SO MUCH for your help and your continued service to
the fish community. It's very much appreciated! - Chris <Hope
this helps, Neale.>
Re: Hi! Questions about Eheim media... Thanks so much, Neale!
It's definitely a huge help. <Glad we could help.> And the term
"mechanically-recovered minced chicken carcass shapes bound together
with salt and skin" is pure genius :) <And technically correct, too!
Cheers, Neale.>
Eheim Filter Instructions 7/30/07 <Hi, Pufferpunk here> I just
bought an Eheim filter 2217 and the instructions suck!!! I haven't
figured out how to set it up yet - particularly, I can't get the outlet
pipe connected to the curved piece - it seems like I'm missing a small
connector, but I'm not sure. Do you have any suggestions on where I can
get better instructions? Thanks. <Try here:
http://www.rexgrigg.com/Eheim%20Classic%20Canister%20instructions.htm
I just cut off a small piece of the soft tubing to connect the hard
ones. You may use a hose clamp if concerned with them separating or
leaking. Make sure you fill the canister to the top with water & leave
the top connection open, to let displaced water out, so the top can
close. ~PP>
Eheim filter, inst. 7/28/07 <Hi there! Paul here>
I just bought an Eheim filter 2217 and the instructions suck!!! I
haven't figured out how to set it up yet. Particularly, I can't get the
outlet pipe connected to the curved piece. It seems like I'm missing a
small connector, but I'm not sure. Do you have any suggestions on where
I can get better instructions? Thanks. <Let's see if we can't get
this fixed... Okay, the Classic series by Eheim features the little pipe
coming out of the bottom of the canister and turning 90 degrees upward.
If this is the curved piece you speak of, then it should only have a
single threaded nut which screws on and off of the pipe. This nut should
be screwed as far down onto the tube as it can without forcing it. Then
the tubing is pushed down onto the tube so that it is now barely
touching the nut that was previously screwed on. Once this is done
simply unscrew the nut so that as it backs up the tubing, it screws onto
the tubing clamps it tight where the barb is located inside. The reason
why I suspect this as the problem is that when I first got my hands on
connectors like that, I couldn't get them to work either. If this isn't
the solution, then you might have better luck contacting Eheim through
their website: http://www.eheim.com/classic.htm Hopefully that helps.
Cheers>
Re: Looking for a quiet external pump 7/16/07
http://wetwebmedia.com/pumpselmar.htm Dear Bob and Neale, <Howdy!>
Thank you so much for your advise. I really like your web site and spend
hours reading through and it surely helps me. I have also read your
books and your information is very valuable. Thank you for so much of
your time. <Welcome> I understand that you said the ocean clear
canister are larger pressurized with a great deal of surface area and
also I need to have two of those for better in-between service for my
170 gallon tank of freshwater. <Actually "two of those" cartridge
elements... just one filter... Understand? Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/clncarta.htm> Now I would like to ask you
another question, what if I just use two Eheim Canister and would they
produce the same crystal clear water for such a large tank. I am
thinking of using two Eheim Professional 3 (2028) with an output of
450gph. <Very nice units> Would that be a good way and which is
the best choice in your opinion? Two Ocean Clear canister or two
Eheim Professional 3 (2028)? <I vastly prefer the Eheims... much
easier to service, much longer service intervals, and MUCH less energy
cost to operate> Also please advise on the Eheim Pro II 2028 versus
Eheim Professional 3 (2028). Which is your favourite for a 170 gallon
tank? Your advise is very much appreciated and thanks again. <Well,
the latter is better... larger, more flow... but retails for about
another hundred dollars... I'd rather have two units, one at either
end... so, whichever you can afford. Bob Fenner>
Noisy Eheim Pro 2028 7/8/07 Hi I have purchased a
2nd hand [had been used for 6 months] Eheim 2028. <A very good
product in my estimation:
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=EH2028K> It
works perfectly but seems as if air may be present as it ‘rattles’ when
the taps are fully open. If I partially close the taps the noise stops.
Is this normal? <No> If not how can I dispel any remaining air?
<Mmm, a few ways, but the most assured is likely to turn the power off,
disconnect the discharge line, and have it lowered into a bucket, allow
the water to drain/siphon through the unit... perhaps while giving the
filter itself a few gentle shakes side-to-side to dislodge any air
caught in the pump... If you can get a friend to help, watch the
lines/water, try turning the pump motor on/off a couple times during
this process...> Thanks Alan <Welcome. Bob Fenner>
How to improve on Eheim filter / Red Sea skimmer set-up - 06/27/07
Dear Crew Hope you are all well. <Thank you> I have been
reading and enjoying your pages as much as ever, but now I have to ask
the 2 questions that have been bothering me since I started in the hobby
18 months ago. <Go ahead> I have a 40 gallon marine tank with a
Red Sea Prism skimmer and 2 Eheim 'Professional' filters, 1 wet and dry
and 1 mechanical. I have 5 fish, all of which look healthy and get on
well : 2 true percula clowns, 2 blue tangs and a dwarf angel fish. The
tank has 3 or 4 soft corals and 4 T5 tubes for lighting (2 blue, 2
white). I have quite a large amount of good quality live rock in the
tank, although I am unsure of the weight of that. I use R O water only
to top-up and for water changes, and test results show nil for ammonia,
nitrite, and phosphate, with nitrates at around 0-15. I have no room for
a sump, so will have to stick with essentially the same set-up of
filters and skimmer. Firstly, I have read that the wet and dry filter
is not one of Eheim's best ideas, <Agreed> and that it is best to
do away with some or all of the media in the filters, or even to do away
with the filters completely, or run them empty of media. Am I
misunderstanding anything here? <Not as far as I can discern... this
is one of Eheim's not so great engineered products> I like the Eheim
filters, partly because I spent a small fortune on them, but also
because they provide all of the water movement and circulation in the
tank, and they are very quiet. <I am of the same opinion> I have
been thinking of putting a PolyFilter in the mechanical filter - is
there any point in that? What else can one put into the filters to
permanently replace the present media which is so often described as a
'nitrate-factory'? <Mmm, "denitrator" one-time purchase media...
Siporax, Ehfi-Mech... other ceramic and sintered glass products...>
Secondly, is there to your knowledge a skimmer which is a similar
size/shape to the Red sea skimmer but more efficient? <Look to the
Aqua-C Remora line...> The tank is in the lounge. I find the Red Sea
skimmer easy to maintain, but a little noisy. Are skimmers necessarily
noisy? <Mmm, no... this product has a few good ideas, but was not
"finished" engineering wise... Try a Remora> I have this dream of
getting nitrates down to naught and the tank looking even better that it
does at the moment. Hope you can help. Thanks. Peter Hosier
<Thank you for sharing... And do make it known what progress you make.
Bob Fenner> Eheim floss alternatives in a canister 7/14/05
Hi. I've a new Eheim 2026 Profesionel 2. The fine white Eheim pads,
I'd imagine must be changed frequently but they are expensive. Can I
use regular no-name floss instead? <I wouldn't> Would there be
a danger of fibers catching and obstructing the impeller?
<Possibly... but worse, more likely all will "pack down", channel...>
Someone suggested that if I do use ordinary no-name floss, I should
cease using sintered glass as it sheds fines, potentially damaging to
the impeller and its chamber. <No> What are your ideas and
experiences. (Not living in Western Europe or the States, I cannot get
products online, by the way. So the Eheim pads remain expensive).
<Am a huge fan of a one-time purchase of Eheim's Grob and Fein
Flocken... a polyester media that you can rinse out and re-use... for
decades... this is what I use... the Grob (large) ahead of a handful of
the Fein. Bob Fenner> Eheim? I have been given an
Eheim external filter and have been using it for some while now, but, I
think the impeller needs replacing as it makes some very strange noises
and doesn't work properly. <Have you checked it physically? Is it
chipped? Perhaps a rock stuck in the volute? If not, there may be just
some air trapped in and around the impeller...> The problem I'm
having is I don't know which one I have as I can't find the number, I
think it's either a 2224 or 2226, both the impellers are different, and
I can't seem to find a dealer in my area of the UK who can help, Can
you? <I'd take it into a dealer there... contact Eheim through their
website and ask where a larger outlet that carries their complete line
is located near you. Bob Fenner>
Canister media 12/16/06 Hello- First, I want to
say "I love your site". All you there are doing a great job.
Second, I want to ask two questions. My first question is about
canister filters. (I do know you are not fond of them) <Only for
certain applications... I actually use them on my present two systems
(Eheim)... but do need careful, regular maintenance in most marine
applications> but I am just starting out and bought a used tank that
came with 2 canister filters and Aqua C skimmer. Due to a $$ issue I
cannot go with a sump at this time, but will upgrade to one when
able to. Anyway, I'm going to use the canisters for now. Can you tell me
what you would recommend to use in them? <Mmm, yes... and much of
this is posted:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marcanistfltfaqs.htm and the linked
files (articles, FAQs) at top> They have so many different medias,
pads, carbon and such. <Yes... my best "advice" (what I would use)
is from the first water (some filters are top down... most flow bottom
up)... something like Ehfi-Mech or Siporax (an everlasting aerobic and
anaerobic media... you will just gingerly rinse every cycle... Next, a
course then fine mesh-fiber media... e.g. Eheim's Ehfi-Grob and
Ehfi-Fein... These also just rinsed weekly... then a unit or two
(depending on the size of the canisters themselves) of Chemi-Pure or
equivalent... can be home-made with Dacron bags... replaced, switched
out every month or so...> I know I should maintain them once a week.
<Yes> My second question is about the skimmer. The tubing that
goes from the skimmer to the pump is only about 2 inches long. Again, no
sump, so this will be in the tank for now. Can I buy a piece of
tubing long enough for the pump to sit on the bottom of the tank behind
the rock? <Yes... your LFS, or a large hardware store...> It has
a model 3 pump. I appreciate your response. <Welcome my friend
to our ever-wonder full hobby. Bob Fenner> Re: canister media
12/17/06 Thank you for your quick response. I do appreciate it.
You don't mention the use of any filters (fine or course), you would not
use them? <Mmm, are mentioned... are the intermediate media by
Eheim... made of poly... a one-time purchase...> Lastly, when you
mention rinsing, you mean by the tank water not the tap water? <This
is best, yes> Again thank you and keep up the good work. Your
site is very educational for all. <Thank you for seeking
clarification here. Bob Fenner>
Re: canister media
12/18/06 I want to apologize for taking your time again.
<Hello Unnamed Questioner - Tim answering your question today!> I
asked the wrong question in regards to the use of filters. (I later
realized.) Can you tell me where to purchase the Ehfi-Grob and
Ehfi-Fein? I was unable to find these products anywhere. I have only
found Ehfi-Synth, Ehfi-Fix and Ehfi-Substrat (pro). I appreciate your
response. <And we appreciate your query. Do a google search for
these and any online shops that sell these products are likely to show.
Best of luck.>
Re: canister media 12/19/06
I do apologize again, but are these the actual names of the products?
Ehfi-Grob & Ehfi-Fein? I did a google search for these products and the
results are "0" items found. Any links that did come up, I used their
search feature and again "No products found." Thank You again.
<Mmm, please see here on Eheim's site re:
http://eheim.com/filtermedia.htm Bob Fenner> Re: canister
media 12/21/06 I am just writing in regard to the
Ehfi-Grob & Ehfi-Fein. After trying to search everywhere, I contacted
Eheim. As per Eheim these products were produced many years ago and are
now discontinued. <Thank you for this my friend... I was produced
many years ago... and have not yet been discontinued... Heeee! They
still make similar, the same products, but have changed their names>
I also have one more question, do both canisters have to have the same
media? <Mmm, no... I find it easier to stack both the same though...
We used many Eheim canister filters in our service company's systems
(mainly freshwater applications) years back... and did the same with all
of them. Bob Fenner>
Eheim Canister Filters
Hi I recently bought an EHEIM wet&dry 2227 filter and I don't know if
its working right ! I filled the baskets with EHFISUBSTRAT PRO (
Eheim says : " All filter baskets must be filled with EHFISUBSTRAT up to
the rim " ) and then I put the white sponge filter on top (the one for
2227) and then filled the filter with water by sucking air through the
small breathing tube. The suction valve was open and the pressure valve
was closed at that time. I start running the filter and after a while
water was flowing out slowly and from the other side it was filling with
water. The filter makes strange noises as if water is flowing inside
and its very annoying. It sounds more like a vacuum cleaner !!! <This
is the air and water mixing in and about the pump impeller... a good
idea to turn the unit off, let the water rise in the volute (the space
around the impeller), then turn it back on... doing this a few times
should clear the air out entirely, and make the unit very quiet> I
checked everything (hoses tight, if there are any bends to the tube, if
the baskets fit well) and it seems that there is not a problem. I use
another EHEIM filter (2217) and its completely quiet and noiseless !
Another thing that bothers me is that water comes out constantly and I
don't see any changes in the pressure. <Once again, this is due to
the cavitation, the air and water mixing together... once you get the
air out of the volute, you'll see> From what I know in these filters
the outlet pressure varies. There is a wet&dry cycle that constantly
goes on and the outlet pressure varies during this cycle. I don't
know if I explained well my problem but first of all I want to know why
it makes these weird sounds and second if the filter works properly.
Thank you in advance for your help. George K. <A very common
situation... and one that can/will be solved with the simple protocol
mentioned. Bob Fenner>Eheim Wet-Dry Unit... more than cavitation
at play Thank you for your reply. <You're welcome> When I
turn it off and back on again I get a very loud noise and the motor gets
very heated. <Not good... leave unplugged till it cools down... and
until we discover the cause of the problem> I left it like that and
the filter stopped by itself...maybe for the motor to cool down a
little. I took the impeller off and it was very hot ! <Was there
anything caught around the impeller spindle? Do check for a minute piece
of filter media> When I turn it off the floater goes up all the way
then after a while and after the loud noise stops it starts emptying and
the pressure is very high till it drops to a constant low water flow.
<Ahhh, perhaps there is a good kink in a line (either intake or
discharge. Try this: Check both loops to ascertain whether there is a
kink that is limiting water flow, and take the discharge line off, place
in a bucket (all this with the pump turned off), to determine as well if
there isn't either a twist, kink in the line or some other area of
internal blockage. If the water does not flow freely (siphoning from the
intake line, through the unit, into your bucket via the discharge line),
do take the whole unit off the tank, dis-assemble it in a sink or tub,
and check for blockage in the unit, lines there> Then the floater
goes all the way down and NEVER goes up again ! <I suspect either a
"good" air gap in a line, or a blockage inside the unit> Then the
wet-dry cycle doesn't come back again as it should be and it keeps
working like that! (I changed all the o-rings with new ones-I was
told that maybe this was the problem). <Shouldn't have anything to do
with the problem... the o-rings either work and the unit doesn't leak...
or...> Help ... I am so confused! Thank you, George <Please read
through the above. Have you been to Eheim's website?
http://www.eheim.com/ Bob Fenner> Eheim I am
setting up a 75 gal. saltwater fish only tank. I am considering using a
wet-dry filter, either a SeaLife Systems Pro-150 or an Eheim wet-dry
filter. Would you give me the pros and cons of each of these filters?
<This information is catalogued at wetwebmedia.com In general, the
problem is the same...they will both generate nitrates in the long
term...The wet/dry will need almost no maintenance but the canister will
need to be cleaned and "reloaded" regularly. Ooops...I'm sorry...Do you
mean an Eheim wet/dry? Of all of the high quality products that Eheim
makes, their wet/dry is a dud. I wouldn't use it at all. Their canister
filters are some of the best on the market> Would either be
considerably “better” over the long haul, e.g. ease of maintenance,
efficacy, better oxygenation, less noisy, etc.??? <A wet/dry will
be fine if you have a heavy bioload and you don't plan on keeping
corals. It will be practically no maintenance and as quiet as your
return pump is.. Just the sound of the water cascading over the
bioballs. You can also submerge the bioballs to decrease the nitrate
effect> It seems from your FAQs that many people use the Eheim
canisters but not the wet-dries <Most of us don't care for the
wet/dries made by Eheim> Are you familiar with Sealife Systems (they
seem relatively pricey)? <Sorry...I'm not familiar with that brand. A
wet/dry is simply a tub full of tank water. No need to spend a lot of
money> My next question involves water filters- I live in a rural
area and have a water well, i.e. my water is not municipally provided.
Does well water typically present fewer or more problems in regards to
quality? <I can't answer this question with generalities. Every rural
well is different. No way to tell what's in the water unless you test
it. For the above reason, well water is generally more problematic. If
you had municipal water, you could get results of water tests from the
water company that would tell you exactly what you're up against...>
I have not had any testing done but, obviously, I would not have to
worry about things like added chlorine. <Municipalities also filter
out many other things that we don't want in our tanks...And to be quite
honest...municipalities allow some things like nitrates and phosphates
that we don't want...> Are there any sorts of elements that I should
be particularly concerned about? <Well...this is not really an easy
answer...nitrates, phosphates, silica, metals of all kinds, PH...that
would be a good start. Are your pipes copper? Many of these tests could
be run with simple water test equipment like we use for our fish tanks.>
I guess there is always the (remote?) possibility of ground water
contamination. <I certainly hope that isn't the case!!> I am
considering purchasing a reverse osmosis filter from Home Depot for
about $200. I would like your thoughts on all of this in light of the
fact that I will have a fish only tank but would really like to provide
a good quality of water. <Dude. skip the RO. GO DI. RO leaves way too
much waste water...An email that I responded to the other day stated
that their RO filter took 10 gallons to produce one gallon of pure
water!! As a comparison, DI has no waste water...Go DI> By the way, I
would like a substrate to go on the bottom of my tank that is black in
color. Is there anything available (that would also be pretty easy to
keep clean with routine vacuuming)? <Keep the bed really thin like
1/2 inch or less and stay away from the volcanic stuff. The larger the
grain the easier it will catch and hold detritus...but it will also be
easier to vacuum> THANKS! (ya’ll do a great job and provide a great
service) <You're welcome! Come on back now...Ya hear! David Dowless>
Eheim Canister filter Hi WWMCrew, After reading through the
faq's, I'm considering the purchase of a Eheim 2215 canister filter for
chemical filtration (using Chemi-pure and poly-filters as media). I'm a
little confused though. I have live rock for biological filtration, so
I don't need the Eheim biological media. What else do I put in the
filter to pack it? <Mechanical media like Grob and Fein Flocken...
their Bio-Mech... in addition to the chemical media you list> Doesn't
the filter need to be fully packed? <Mmm, "fully-packed"? The
canister does not "need" to be completely filled, or have any given
arrangement of types of media inserted in it> I can't just throw in a
bag of Chemi-pure and a poly-filter and call it good can I? <Oh,
yes... but best to place between (sandwich) two pieces of mechanical
media (to keep most of the gunk off of the chemical media)> It I use
poly-filters should I cut them into round disks to fit the Eheim?
<Can do, or just fold and fit> Also, Eheim makes an activated carbon
disk. Their media is round and fills the entire diameter of the filter
(7.3 inches), a bag of pure-pure isn't big enough to cover the entire
diameter of the filter. To me it seems like the Eheim media would be
more efficient because there would be less pass through. <In actual
practice, no big difference... for many years we (the service co.) would
place two units of Chemipure, replace one intermittently> It doesn't
seem like pure-pure in this situation would be much better than just
placing it in a sump (the water is going to pass around the bag either
way). <Better in the canister... with the sandwiching described
above> My understanding of the Eheim 2200 series (aka classic series)
is that there are no media baskets. There is one large chamber that
you pack with media. <Correct> If my goal is to add pure-pure,
would I be better off purchasing a filter with media baskets like a
Fluval or Eheim Ecco? <My choice is the canister, the Ecco, and
Fluval in that order> Thanks for your time and patience, Jeremy
<Welcome. Bob Fenner> Eheim 2028 filter Hi there,
<Hello> I currently have a Fluval 404 filter and am thinking of
changing it to an Eheim Pro II 2028 model. <A wise choice> My
aquarium size is 6 foot x2 foot x 1.5 foot. Would it be a better move
to change the filter or is the Fluval one able to handle my tank size.
<Don't know what you're intending to keep... you may need more or
something different entirely than either of these canister filters, but
of the choice between the two, I'd go with the Eheim (I have two of
these models. More flow, quieter, longer-lasting products.> If you
could reply back to me, then that would be most appreciated. Thanks!
Janine Kennedy <Bob Fenner> Eheim and skimmer selections
I currently have a 55 gallon freshwater tank which I was going to
convert to a FOWLR in a couple of months. <An exciting change> I
want to buy a Eheim canister filter and use it for freshwater and then
I'll use it when I convert to saltwater. I was deciding between the
Eheim professional 2224 and the professional II 2026. The 2224 is
rated for 185 gph and aquariums up to 66 gallons. The professional II is
rated for 250 gph and for aquariums up to 92 gallon, plus it has the
self priming button (which I don't know how hard it is to prime a
regular canister). <I have used these fine filters (earlier models
to the present) for decades... and can attest to the great value in the
self-priming pump feature... you do want this> I can buy the 2224
for 65 dollars cheaper than the 2026, so its hard to decide which one I
want to buy. I'm going to have a SeaClone skimmer rated for 150 gallons,
at least 30 lbs of LR and about 50 pounds of aragonite/live sand when I
do my saltwater. What do you think would be a better buy considering the
price??? thanks Joe <I would definitely go with the larger
unit in the Eheim, and do investigate skimmer choices before
investing... there are much more suitable makes/models. We have MANY
archived FAQs re skimmer selection on www.WetWebMedia.com Bob
Fenner> Canister Filters, a small island in the TEP
Good morning Bob!! <Not quite awake yet...> I have 2 questions for
you today!! First, I was wondering if you could suggest a good, QUIET,
filter for my 40 gallon reef tank. Currently, I am running a Supreme
Aqua King. Very noisy. <Wow, didn't know that good old Eugene
Danner's products were still about. Real water movement... but yes,
noisy> It's rated at 350 gph. I was thinking about a canister
type, but thought you could advise me. I think I would like to keep
at least 350 gph, or better. <More motion the better... and yes to
over-rating... as they slow down when dirty...> I have been told that
some magnetic drive filters claim to pump that much, but that the
reality is much less when put under an actual load. <Yes... some much
worse than others... Do invest in a good, actually the best make, Eheim
here... you will be very happy with the engineering... whisper quiet,
very dependable, low energy consumption/waste heat production... will
last and last... and their "flocken" and Ehfi-mech filter media (one
time purchase) as well. Link on the www.WetWebMedia.com Links Pages>
Second, I an considering adding 3 fish to my tank. I already have 5 fish
in there now, a Eiblii Angel, 2 false Percula clowns, a six line wrasse,
and a lyre tail blenny. I was thinking of adding 3 Fiji Jewel Lyretail
Anthias. Do you think that this might be too much for my system??
<Umm, this is the forty gallon right? It's already too fish-crowded...>
I do a weekly 5 gallon water change, have a protein skimmer, and a UV
sterilizer. Also, there are a few assorted mushrooms and corals in
there. Thank you for your time, Bob!!! Pat Marren <Any chance
of adding a larger system along with the new filtration? You need it...
to keep up with your growing marine interest. Bob Fenner>
Canister filters <Lorenzo Gonzalez here, pretending to be Bob
Fenner, who's in Asia at the moment> I first have to thank you guys
for all of the great and up-to-date info you provide, as we all know
that in this hobby the current methods are always changing. I have
decided to go with a protein skimmer and live rock set up for my 72
gallon fish only set up, along with a sizable homemade sump with more
live rock and Caulerpa. <Sounds great so far.> My question
regards carbon. I have an old Eheim 2213 (do you remember the output on
these?) that I plan on using with Eheim media and one Chemi-pure run for
just one week a month. Does that sound okay? <Yes, it sounds like a
decent idea.> Can I just use an Aquaclear hanging in my sump with
just the carbon? <Sure. I do that.> Also, would Ehfisynth filter
wadding be a good addition, along with Grob and Ehfimech, or would this
add to nitrate build-up? Does the one week a month sound good on the
carbon? <If you think you'll have some rather messy fish, the
additional bio-mech might not hurt. And a little nitrate in a FOWLR tank
isn't the end of the world, as long as it doesn't spike. As for carbon,
I just run it all the time, though that's really not necessary in most
balanced setups. But my water is ALWAYS crystal clear, and
springtime-fresh smelling! The thing with an Eheim bio-mech setup, in my
experience, is to be careful to NEVER rinse out all the media at any one
sitting. Keep some of the media 'seeded' to re-start the filter after
your regular maintenance.> Thanks ahead of time... John <No
problem. -Lorenzo> Film on surface Hello, <Hey there>
I have cycled my 80 gal tank for three months now and achieved no
ammonia or nitrites, etc. <None perhaps detected... they were
expediently converted, absorbed...> I added 6 Damsels last week and
thus began feeding. I now notice a layer of what appears to be oil/film
on the surface of the water. <Ah, good observation!> It also
contains some debris, maybe from the fish/food... I have a Tunze protein
skimmer and an Eheim canister filter. Is my skimmer working properly?
<Likely yes. A very good unit, manufacturer.> Or do I need to get an
Eheim surface skimmer? <Ah! Excellent choice.> What is this film &
why are the debris not being sucked up by the equipment? <Products,
by-products of chemical/physical activity in your (and all) system, and
resultant from feedings, etc.... No real problem if kept to a minimum...
with "scooping" water from the top (like with a pitcher), or skimming
with a clean, unscented paper towel... or best with the proposed Eheim
addition> I have been feeding some jarred zooplankton, could that be
causing trouble? <To some degree, yes... likely a source of the oil
you're so keenly espying. Be chatting. Bob Fenner> -Sarka Set
up questions Hello Robert, I have emailed you before and YES I
am still in the setup process ;) I have been using your forums and for
the most part I am very satisfied. <Hopefully worth the cost, time>
I still want to run my setup by you just to be safe. I am setting up a
marine aquarium with live sand and live rock. At first there will be no
coral but I may consider it depending on how successful I am. The
equipment that I have purchased is as follows: 1) 55 Gal rectangular
tank made by Top Fin (Manufactured by Perfecto??) <Hmm, contact
them: http://www.perfectomfg.com/, think this is a Hagen brand> 2)
Ehiem 2026 Pro II Filter Media: (1) Ehfi Mech (2) Ehfi Substrat
(1) Pad and Pillow set (1) 3 Pak carbon pads 3)Bak-Pak 2 protein
Skimmer 4)Maxi-Jet Powerhead 1200 5) Looking into JBJ lighting. 4
(55w)=220W Two daylight and two blue. <Keep looking... these units
have/had troubles...> Here are my questions: a) Which media should
I use with the canister filter for my type of system? Everything it came
with or just the carbon pad? Eheim's directions are not clear on this.
<Likely to discount confusion... I would use all those listed... the
Ehfimech on the bottom, the carbon above it between layers of "Fein"...
replace/renew the carbon about once a month> b) I bought the Bak Pak2
and not the Bak Pak 2R? The Bak Pak2 comes with BioBale and is not
intended for a reef system. Will the Bio Bale in the Bak Pak2 be
beneficial or harmful for my type of system? <Beneficial for a few
months... then I'd pull it. We can talk about this later when the
information is more relevant> c) Is RO deionized water necessary? Can
I just use my tap water? <Likely your tap is fine. Do you drink it?
No worries. We use tap with our systems> d) Is there any additional
equipment that I should consider purchasing? <At this point? Test
kits? Cleaning gear? I'd just "jump in" at this juncture. Bob Fenner>
Thanks again -RK Filters Thank you in advance again.
I have Fluval 304 that is definitely dying I can replace from the store
it was purchased at for the same or credit. My question is should I
go with the same and I was thinking of getting a 104 for dedicated bio
filtration or one of the Eheim's that are hard to find in my area unless
I mail order it. Do not know much about them and can they be used the
way the Fluval are with the carbon and so on. It is for a 50 gal pent
with two tangs and two dwarf angels, two 402 power heads, Prizm skimmer
and 50 or so pounds of rock. The Eheim is a vastly superior product
of about the same application. It can be packed with their/others
media... I would mail-order this instead of the replacement Fluval. My
further input on canister filters is posted here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marcanistfltfaqs.htm Bob Fenner>
Eheim for a reef tank? Hi, Welcome back and hope you don't mind
two questions in one day! We corresponded a while back when I was
gathering up gear for my first reef and I decided on an Eheim in
addition to LR, and CPR skimmer in my sump-less 46 gallon. It provides
great circulation, but as I'm learning more, I'm getting confused since
many people seem to advise against canister filters on the grounds that
they could filter out helpful tiny critters. <A valid concern...
depending on size, flow rate, what the canister is packed with... for
how large, system's occupants...> I could always remove some of the
pads and just use the beads and substrate. <Ah yes> A side
question is whether to turn off filters in a small tank like mine while
feeding. If I were to run the Eheim intermittently is there a risk of
poisoning the system with results of anaerobic metabolism/ how long does
that take? Double thanks!! <Good questions. A timer to cycle off
mechanical filters during feeding is often a good idea (don't rely on
your, my memory... where was I? Oh... takes about an hour or two for
most canister situations to begin to have/cause trouble. Hence the
advice to lower water level in them (replacing with air) during transit,
long shut down periods. Bob Fenner> Skimmer for surface of
water Hi Bob can you send me the web site again for the company
that supplies the type of skimmers that clean the surface of your water.
<This is on Eheim's site. You can find it on the WetWebMedia.com Links
Pages if not via your search engines. Bob Fenner> Thanks
Filtration questions Thank you for the quick response to my
question. <Very welcome, my friend.> I asked about replacing my
current filter with a magnum 350. This is for my 29 gallon FOWLR (10 lbs
live rock, 25 lbs base rock, plan on getting more live rock in the
future). After your suggestion I have done some research into Eheim
filters and now am considering purchasing one of those. <they are
well made and long lived. I just wish they had stronger flow> The two
I am between are the 2213 with a 116 gph flow and it says it is good for
between a 30-70 gallon aquarium, and the 2215 with a 164 gph flow rate
and it states is good for up to a 93 gallon aquarium. Which one would
you use and would these products be better for my system than the
magnum? <I'd choose the bigger Eheim, for sure. Compared to the
Magnum, they serve different purposes. I find the Eheim better for
biological filtration and lower maintenance. I like the Magnum better
for quick filtration and chemical media. Given to choose though, I'd
still take the Eheim. Kindly, Anthony> One last quick question
about filtration Sorry to bother you again but I have one last
question. I emailed you concerning the Eheim filter for my 29 gallon.
You mentioned that you wished the Eheim filters had stronger flow. I was
planning on getting a 2215, but now I think I might get a 2217, with the
265 gph flow compared to the 164 gph for the 2215. Would this would be
better? <Bigger is almost always better.> Thanks a lot. You guys
are awesome! <This part is in general and does not specifically apply
to just you. I just wanted to add it for those who read the daily FAQ
page. If you have a follow up question, it is best to "Reply" so that we
can see the original correspondence, too. We receive and answer a ton of
email and cannot keep everyone straight. -Steven Pro> Choose My
Eheim Hi Bob. <<Bob's not here, Man. JasonC is, filling in
while he's away diving.>> Just a question about Eheim, 2228 or 2229
wet dry, which is better? <<Hmm, I think Bob is more partial to the
non-wet/dry Eheim's so I'd say he'd pick the 2228 [non wet/dry]>>
Does the 2228 outweigh the 2229 wet dry since its flow rate is 750
liters per hour compared to the 550 liters the 2229 does? <<perhaps also
a better design.>> I'm confused with which one to buy. Thanks
Rob. <<If you must use a canister filter, then Eheim is the one. If
the 2228/9 are in your price range, then buy the 2228. Cheers, J -- >>
Nitrate/Eheim Questions Hi, hope you're all well...I'd like to
clarify something I'm unclear on even after pouring over the FAQ's on
nitrates/denitrification. I recently pulled the Media Ehfisubstrat
&Ehfimech) from the Eheim canister in my 46 reef. the reason would be
too tedious to go into; it started with comments from Eric B. on another
BB re: a xenia crash and many Q&A's with you guys). <I do remember
vaguely.> I don't know if it's causal or coincidental, but it seems
like my nitrates are higher since then (10-20 with crude dipstick
tests-I'm about to order a Salifert kit). Do these two media support
enough anaerobic bacteria to help with denitrification, <No, would be
strictly aerobic bacteria in a canister filter.><<Mmm, depends on
media... flow rate... RMF>> and if so, would one or the other of them
be better? The directions are unclear on the function of the mech-they
say something about ensuring an even flow of h2o thru the filter. My
other parameters are all right on and the nitrates used to be zero also.
The tank is running for six months with a low fish load <It probably
just took this long to accumulate the nitrates.> two cardinals and
two Banggais; also 4LPS and several softies, 2 shrimp, assorted hermits
and snails. All seem fine except the bubble isn't inflated as
often/fully as it used to be and is a dirty brown color instead of pure
white (I feed it shrimp regularly). <The change in color is probably
a good thing. Poor white indicates a lack of symbiotic
algae/zooxanthellae. Many LPS pan and expand a lot when under lit. Many
folks confuse this over inflated tissue with growth. The feeding
probably sustained it until its zooxanthellae could recover.> I have
a borderline substrate: a scant 3" in some places and 3 1/2 in
others--hard to tell because a huge proportion of the floor is covered
with 70# LR. Am I right to assume that adding depth to the small part of
the floor that's accessible would only help a little? <Yes, of minor
help. Better to have a uniform depth of 4-6".> I'm doing 10% h20
changes about 2-3x/month since the nitrates rose; was a little lax till
then, I confess. <Again, probably why you are now beginning to seen
increases in nitrates.> I have no sump and no room/desire for one
since I have no built-in overflow. There is one large (5-6") clump of
Halimeda which I could trim less; it would fill the tank if I let it!
<A overall good indicator of proper calcium and alkalinity levels. In
this case, also a sign of higher nutrients.> I'm feed frozen Mysis
once/day, pretty moderately, I think. I'd appreciate your ideas on
whether to replace the Eheim media, and whether to stick with the
original set-up, i.e. one basket each of the mech and the substrate, use
Siporax instead, just substrate, etc? <I would go with things as they
are now. Increase the sand if possible, make sure you are getting good
skimmate, and things should come back into line.> Thanks for all your
help; I'd never have gotten into this hobby/survived without it! <You
are welcome. -Steven Pro> Eheim 2213 can I use an Eheim
2213 to filter a marine tank. I own one and it is the ultimate fresh
water filter, I would think it would be just as good at filtering
saltwater, I am converting my 55 gallon and I have in tank canister and
Eheim canister. there is more than enough water turnover, or is my Eheim
useless. <not useless at all... a very fine filter that can indeed be
used as your primary in a marine system...but not the only filter. Some
live rock and/or a secondary mechanical filter will be necessary and
give you great peace of mind with your investment in the magically
beautiful marine animals. My very strong advice is to add as much live
rock as you can afford. It is so efficient as a source of filtration
that in some cases it can actually outperform and replace your Eheim.
Still keep the Eheim for carbon and gross filtration> thanks Sam
<best regards, Anthony> Eheim Maintenance Hi, Regarding
the Eheim Pro II filter model 2028. Many of the marine equipment vendor
sites claim that you only have to clean this filter every 3 to 4 months.
<Mmm, this can be so... I have two of these units on freshwater
systems... and rarely open them> I was under the impression reading
your site and others that the filter pads for mechanical filtration
should be cleaned much more frequently (perhaps weekly). Is the Eheim
really an exception to this advice?? <Not really an exception.
Depending on the "job" you intend, have these canister filters set up to
do... your particular needs/arrangements of feeding, foods, other
filtration... they may only need to be cleaned very intermittently. The
best practical advice is to try them and open them up, see if matter is
accumulating on the media (on mine it does not much at all)> Would
you recommend 2 Eheims, one for mechanical filtration and one for
biological filtration( perhaps a wet/ dry model) in a 100 gallon
discus tank? <I do recommend two... but would set them up the same
(per the excellent media provided and) their packing instructions> My
thinking is that the mechanical filter can be cleaned more frequently,
and the filter used for bio filtration can be cleaned less frequently
as per your sites suggestions. <As stated, I believe you will find as
I have that these are so well designed and made that there is very
little accumulation of matter on the mechanical media. I would work into
a schedule in concert with your regular water changes, of opening one
every other week for a while (to access how "dirty" the first media is)
and the following interval the other one. Bob Fenner, who really likes
these units> Thanks, Bill
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