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Feeding Technique From Across The Pond!
Hey thanks Scott. I decided to go for the further rock re-arranging and
(touch wood) they seem to be getting along fine (phew!).
<Glad to hear that!>
In return for your help and the help I've received in the past from the WWM
crew, thought I'd share an idea that is just being used in the UK at the moment.
You may of course already have heard/practice this but anyway here
goes.....
Basically, the idea is with regard to feeding. I know the little and often
phrase is used a lot, but this can be difficult for people who work (like
myself) to put into play. The idea is to take the full days feed (morning,
evening the lot) and place all this together in one pot (so to speak) when you
return home. Then pour the food into the tank in small doses throughout the
evening (rather than the defrost and tip the lot method I used). This will
apparently in time bring everything together, better water quality, healthier
fish etc. They said at my LFS that should see benefit in 3 weeks with water
parameters etc (but I'll not wager on that quite yet).
<Interesting...Do update us as to the results that your getting with this
technique!>
Here's a link to the site: http://www.marinefishuk.co.uk/portal/forum/article_view.php?faq=3&fldAuto=8
Hope it can provide some payment for the help you guys supply.
Many thanks, Martin.
<Well- Martin, no payment required! Glad we can be there for you! Keep
sharing! Thanks! Regards, Scott F>
Starving Goby (1/27/04)
Hey guys- I have a watchmen goby who appears to be starving to
death. <signs & symptoms?> the only food I can offer is staple flake
enriched w/ Selcon and a refugium (newly set up). <Why not frozen foods?> I
read on your articles advising of nutritional deficiency and was wondering if
there is anything I can do to nurse sally back to health. thanks again Justin Barstow's
<A new refugium is not likely to be putting out anything useful yet.
Some of these gobies will take flake/pellet foods. Others will not. Are there
competitors in the tank that eat everything before it gets down to the goby? I'd
suggest target feeding with frozen Mysis shrimp or other frozen marine foods.
The Selcon is a good idea too. Hope this helps, Steve Allen.>
Sea sponge Source
Dear Sir
We are
the one of Aquafeed manufacturer in Thailand. We are interesting to do research
and development about sea sponge application in Aquafeed. Could you advise me
about the supply sources of frozen fresh sea sponge or supplier?
We really need to know good supplier and well established company. I am
looking forward to hear your reply soon.
Thank
you in advance for your support
Yours Sincerely,
Ronnachai Mhordee
Procurement Manager
INVE (Thailand) Ltd.
<Unfortunately I don't know where I might refer you to directly. Perhaps SaltCreek(.com)
in the U.S., makers of Ocean Nutrition formulated foods (they use sponge
material in some of their products). I would try the World Mariculture Society
for leads on supply sources. Bob Fenner>
- Feeding Schedule -
I'm trying to get my tank mates on the same feeding schedule; I have a 11 inch
Goldentail moray, 8 inch snowflake, and a 4 - 5 inch miniata grouper... I use to
feed them every other 2 days (ex. if I fed Monday, they'd get fed again
Thursday); Now I moved to 3 days (ex. if I fed Monday, they'd get fed again
Friday)... In your opinion knowing they are still pretty small, which feeding
habit would you recommend? <Once a day... a little less for the grouper,
perhaps every other day.> Also should the grouper be fed more often, or is he
alright with the same schedule? <Think all would be better off with smaller
portions, more often... just be careful with the grouper, it will grow as
quickly as you feed it.> Thank for your time..
<Cheers, J -- >
Iodinating Foods (1/9/2004)
Hi, thanks for taking my question. I was reading info regarding HLLE and how
iodine additions to food may be one way to help. <Nothing proven here.>
How would I do this? Should I just soak the food in a few drops of iodine before
feeding? Should I use a Lugol's solution or go with a Kent type iodide product?
Thanks, Angelo <General improvement of water conditions and overall nutrition
seem important here. HUFA/vitamin supplements may help. Soaking the food in a
marine iodine supplement could be done. Don't know if it will help or hurt.
Iodine is usually added to the water. I think Lugol's could be too
strong. Do read more here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/iodfaqs.htm
Hope this helps. Steve Allen.>
Feeding my stock
Hi Gang,
I have a couple feeding question. First my stock.
1 Blue Moon Angel (3-4")
1 Yellow Tang (3")
4 Clownfish (1-1.5 ")
1 Starcki damsel (3")
2 Serpent stars
2 Emerald crabs
2 Blood Red Shrimp
4 Urchins
around a dozen Hermit Crabs
about 20 assorted snails
My tank is a 210 gallon, water within parameters, everyone eats well and appears
healthy.
<That sounds like an impressive tank!>
Now my feeding schedule.
The Starcki seems to favor flake food as do the clowns, twice a day.
I feed the Tang a 3 " strip of Nori, 2 different types alternated daily.
She also eats a bit of frozen.
I also feed my big Black Urchin a small strip every day. Is this too much.
<Provided that there isn't any food left over to rot in the tank then I think
you are providing them all with the necessary food. I might cut back
the urchin to feeding every other day, but it's not necessary. If
they seem happy and healthy then I think you should just stay on course.>
My Angel favors some wafers that I purchased (3-4 a day), as do the other
urchins and Starfish, I give the inverts 1 wafer per day. is this too much?
<I never feed my starfish daily. I only direct feed them every
other day if not less, I prefer them to search around the tank during the other
days and help clean up left over food and waste. I noticed when mine
was fed daily it would not clean the tank, so that is why I changed my feeding
habits to less direct feeds for the cleaning crew.>
I didn't realize that the wafers are for freshwater bottom feeders until I got
it home and my pets love it. It is made by "Hikari" and has the
following: Whitefish meal, Shrimp meal, wheat germ, wheat flour, southern meal,
alpha starch, brewers dried yeast, Spirulina, and assorted vitamins. Does this
sound OK?
<Yes, I know many people that feed "freshwater foods" to their
tank, but try not to feed food designed for marine animals. The
Marine foods have nutrients and minerals that are needed in the animals
diets.>
I also am feed 1 cube of "Angel and Butterfly" frozen food made by San
Francisco Bay brands and contains, Krill, Mussel, Squid, Spinach, sponge,
Spirulina algae, menhaden oil, and assorted vitamins. I Alternate this with
Brine shrimp and squid sometimes.
Too much , too little?
<Great food, I use San Francisco Bay Brands food myself, my fish really enjoy
it. and it has a lot more beneficial foods and sources of nutrients
that many of their competitors. I think you are feeding okay, but
just make sure that the food isn't left the to rot in the tank. If
the fish/animals don't eat the food within the first 3-5 minutes of it in there,
then you can remove it so not to foul the water. keep track of what
they can eat in that time, and then adjust your feeding habit accordingly.>
Also with my current stock load, I would like a few more fish (any thoughts) and
maybe a few corrals.
Any Corrals you can advise that my Angel may not nibble on.<I would check out
the WetWebMedia Marine FAQ area. There are loads of ideas for fish
you could mix in your tank. with such a large tank, and the current
fish, you really can have fun with the choices. Not to mention it
will help you figure what coral you can add in there with out worry.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/index.htm >
I plan to soon purchase more lighting.
<If you are a handy person check out "Do it Yourself" areas online
and see if you can build the lighting. It's relatively cheap if you
do it that way.>
Thank you for taking the time, and for this forum. Best regards,
Kurt
Brunswick, Ohio
<No problem Kurt, that is what we are hear for. You seem to be
doing a great job on your tank. Keep up the good work, and if you
ever need any more help we are here for you. -Magnus>
Shrimp for food
Bob, <Steve Allen tonight>
I have read in a book that you can buy shrimp for your local grocery store.
Freeze it. Shave it. Feed it.
Is this true? <Yes> If so I would think that this would be
a fresher method for vs. the prepared frozen foods. <Not necessarily better,
but a good part of a balanced diet.>
I have
-Damsels
-Tomato Clowns
-False Clowns
-Anemones (Long Hair)
-Button Polyp
-Yellow Polyp
-Hairy Mushroom coral
-Mushroom coral
-Numerous inverts (emerald, arrow, sandsifter, snails)
Would any of these species benefit from this type of feeding within the
rotation? <All fish certainly benefit from a varied diet, just like we do. I
rotate 4 kinds of dry food, 5 or 6 frozen and some fresh in my tank. Bob's book
"The Conscientious Marine Aquarium" has his great recipe for homemade
fish food. I by a disgusting "seafood gumbo" mix at Albertson's
(shrimp/octopus/squid/mussel/fake crab) and use that. The fish gobble it up.
Soaking foods in HUFAs & maybe vitamins is also a good idea.>
Thanks <You're welcome> -CPN
Helping an Injured Fish (12/18/2003)
I think I injured one of my Heniochus. <So sorry, I know how
you feel, many of us have accidentally hurt a fish at some point.> I stupidly
fed my fish with a butter knife and my Heniochus swam right into the knife.
<Fish do get anxious to eat.> The injury is on the top of his head and
consists of a deep wound with a piece of flesh hanging from the body of the poor
thing. The wound seems really deep. <ouch!>
I feel so bad about this... and will never do this again. I was lazy
using the knife that I used to chop the food up. <A lesson learned.>
He is eating and shows no sign of distress. Would you recommend
treating him for bacterial infection in my quarantine tank or just watch him for
awhile, maintaining high water quality? <A large avulsion-type wound like you
describe is quite likely to get infected. If it's not too hard to do, I'd
suggest you catch the fish an put him in the QT. You might want to swab the
wound with iodine while you have him in the net. Then treat in QT with a
broad-spectrum antibiotic such as Spectrogram to prevent bacterial infection of
the wound. Hopefully, it will heal. High water quality is a must, of course.
Good food enriched with HUFAs & vitamins may help.>
Please, please help...the fish is ok now but I am afraid he may develop an
infection. <a legitimate concern> Also, should I try to pull of the
hanging flesh or leave it alone? <I'd leave it be, messing with it will very
likely worsen the wound.>
Thanks again, Chuck Spyropulos <We all certainly hope the fish will be OK. Do
keep us posted, Steve Allen.>
Zoecon vs. Selcon
Hey guys, this is my first question. <Well, there's a first time for
everything.> I have a couple more but I will check back later. I have read
tons of the FAQ's and it has raised and answered a lot of new questions for me.
I searched Zoecon I found you always recommended Selcon or 1 other the name
escapes me. I have a Purple Tang with HLLE and have been soaking the food with
Zoecon. Is Selcon a better supplement? <I am not personally aware
of any scientific evidence that this is the case, but there is no doubt that
crew members seem to prefer Selcon. I have used Zoecon myself. No obvious ill
effect. These are both HUFA supplements. There is evidence that these help with
HLLE. The other product you are referring to is probably VitaChem, which is a
vitamin supplement.>
I realize there are other issues with HLLE but I want to start with this. Also
would it be best to move him into a QT tank for treatment or leave him in the
main tank. It is a 55 gallon FOWLR he is 3-4'' and the QT tank is a 10
gallon. <If no infectious/contagious process, then no need for QT.
No medications in display tank. Vitamins & HUFA are OK. Other factors to
consider are water quality, stressors, and actual diet. Zebrasoma tangs need
lots of plant matter. You might want to consider obtaining & cultivating Gracilaria
parvispora algae to feed your tang. Read more about "Tang Heaven Red"
at www.ipsf.com. My Yellow Tang voraciously devours this stuff. Also there was
an excellent 2-part article about HLLE in FAMA Magazine this past fall.>
Thank you in advance <You're welcome. Hope this helps. Steve Allen>
Walt
- Going Out of Town & Puffer Feeding -
I have a 125 gallon fish tank with a large Naso Tang. I wanted to
get a Yellow Dog Face Puffer and a Porcupine Puffer. I go away
usually 1 week to 10 day at a time. Is there any processed food such
as pellets they will eat or can they be left for a week at a time without food
and without attacking each other or other fish. <Puffers wouldn't willingly
go that long without food - but I'd be more worried about the Naso. There are
pellet foods around that the puffers would eat, but again... the Naso might not
take to there. You'll need to get them used to these foods before you leave
town.> How often must they be fed? <At least once a day - the Naso
probably twice to three times with small portions.>
Any suggestions. <Perhaps look for a maintenance service to care for the fish
in your absence.> Are these 2 fish compatible? <Yes.>
Michael
<Cheers, J -- >
Fun With Foods! (Feeding Techniques)
Hi WWM crew,
<Scott F. your Crew member tonight>
I got a weird idea but not sure if it is OK or not. I would like to
provide my fishes with continuous food instead of just one or two meal a day.
<Well, in principle, it's a cool thing...The actual execution tends to be a
bit difficult, though!>
What I'm trying is to fold and attach a large piece of Nori onto a live rock
with rubber band. I notice that almost all my fishes including coral
beauty/tang/clownfish are continuously nipping on the Nori.
<A common practice; an excellent supplemental food for many fishes>
However, I have two concerns. Would they eat too much leading to
other problems?
<Well, in nature, fishes tend to graze throughout the day, so they will eat
to satiation. Of greater concern when using any food for continuous feeding
purposes is to make sure that there is no food left uneaten to degrade water
quality>
Also, the Nori would be in the tank for a long time, almost whole day until it
is all consumed. Would it lead to serious pollution problem?
<Sheesh! Got ahead of myself again! As above; I'd recommend removing the
uneaten Nori at the end of the day...>
In addition to veggies, I'm also thinking to have a box floating on water with
some small holes on it. I would then put live brine shrimp into the
floating box hoping that some brine shrimp would continuously swim out of the
box to provide a constant source of food.
<Certainly a workable idea, but I am not a big fan of live brine shrimp in
marine systems, unless you know of the source. Potential pathogens are a concern
here...Not a horrible danger- just something to think of.>
For brine shrimp in the box, is it possible that they would hatch and provide
additional food source for my corals?
<It is possible; it can be a useful food source for corals that can consume
foods of this size...>
Regards, Manus
<You have some nice ideas, so don't hesitate to experiment here! Good luck!
Regards, Scott F>
Food product preferences
Mike,
Thanks for the quick reply
From what I have read, adding Kalkwasser is somewhat involved.....
I know you most likely don't "advertise" products but what about the
Vital Gold stuff (Thiel Technologies)...
<I would stick with Phytoplankton ESV, Marine snow... etc. good luck
MikeH>
Thanks
Jess
Feeding Station Explanation 11/11/03
Hello Crew
<howdy>
I have decided to start a Mariculture farm. I purchased Anthony's book and must
recommend it - It is fantastic.
<thanks kindly my friend!>
I really want to set up what Anthony describes as a feeding station, starting
with phytoplankton, down to rotifers and finally to brine shrimp.
<my goodness... I fear my response to you/this query was lost. Did you e-mail
this some days/weeks ago to my personal address too? If so, I did reply and
regret that it must have got nuked in the virtual world>
I would like to know how each row feeds down the chain, and since the water is
taken from the main tank, what is stopping rotifers getting into the
phytoplankton?
<ahhh... they are not centrally filtered, but rather strategically places
with prey above predator on shelves to prevent contamination from drips and to
make feeding each lower tier easier by draining prey down to predator (phyto
down to rotis, rotis down to brine, brine out to feed, etc)>
I have built the tanks and raceways, refugium and live rock growing
and curing tanks and I am now desperately in need to getting my feeding station
running - Please help
<do check out more info on feeding stations in Martin Moe's classic
"Marine Handbook - Beginner to breeder" and Frank Hoff's
"Plankton Culture Manual">
Thanks for the fantastic site and advice, it is simply the best on the web!
Kindest Regards Gavin - South Africa
<cheers, my friend... Anthony>
Flake food
Hello, I hope all is well.
I would like your input on one of my "ponderings". First, let me tell
you about my live stock. I have 4 fish ( Blue Tang, Foxface Lo, False Perc and a
Kaldron Cardinal.<nice variety> I feed, for the most part, flake food
every other day. I find flake food seems to have a better guaranteed
analysis.<depends, I prefer feeding a mixed variety of foodstuff.. such as
krill, silversides, Nori, Mysis shrimp and lifeline green (herbivore) and I add
vitamins to the food to ensure that my fish get the nutrition that they need>
I alternate food soaks between Selcon, VitaChem and a little garlic on
occasion.<good> I give the Cardinal some fresh shrimp every now and then
but he seems to enjoy the flake food just the same.<ok> They also receive
Nori about 2 times a week.<good> I'm glad to report that I have had these
fish for a long time and they are and have always been in perfect health. I have
lots of bristle worms and tube worms growing on rocks and powerheads and
everywhere else. Water quality is perfect, all parameters.<good> Now I
know these guys come from excess nutrients in the water and are able to maintain
high populations through excess food not being consumed. I have a protein
skimmer (before you ask) that works good, not great, but good.<at least you
have one lol> I think the problem is the flakes particle size.<probably
so> When soaking flakes, they do not hold up well, or when I get close to the
bottom of the jar, its just very small particulate flakes for the most part. I
notice that they just don't go for it, and allot of it hits the rocks and sand,
going uneaten. My fish just don't go for the smaller stuff, but rather swimming
around looking for larger flakes.<as expected> I've tried using sinking
pellets but even the small ones are too big for my False Perc and Foxface Lo
(they just have a small mouth). What alternatives would you suggest? Again,
nutrition is my top priority.<I suggest that you purchase Life Line (green)
frozen food for your fish, (if your LFS carries it. I live in CFL and all of the
stores around here do so hopefully they also carry it in your area). My 2
vlamingi tangs, chevron tang, and golden pygmy angelfish love this stuff, Good
luck, IanB>
Thanks,
Jason
Looking for New Life
>Hi guys,
>>Hi, Marina tonight.
>Dr. Fenner
>>Hee..! "Dr." is it?
>had answered an e-mail about food sources for angels. He
highly recommended I get SPECTRUM pellets from Pablo Tepoot's in Florida. I am
in Minneapolis I do not have a dealer within 500 miles. I need a store or a
contact to purchase this food before my banded angel checks out. PLEASE HELP. Thanks
and Keep up the great work.
>>Well, my friend, it took me all of two minutes of doing a Google search
to learn that the brand name is "New Life", Spectrum food, and you're
right, you DON'T have a dealer within many, many miles. However, go
to these links, or Google it for online ordering and tell them "Get this to
me POST HASTE!" Marina
http://www.nlpublish.com/
http://www.nlpublish.com/dealers/
Medicated foods 10/13/03
Anthony, Thank you. Do you have any recommendations in terms of
the medicated pellets? Take care. Kim Olson
<homemade recipes are the most potent and effective, but require some effort
to make (consult a fish disease book or Bobs Conscientious Marine Aquarist book
for DIY food recipes). Else, seek Tetras medicated food sticks. Best of luck,
Anthony>
Small tank, Large Dusters 10/13/03
Good day all! As always, all of you rule!!!!!!!! We
are so very lucky in being able to contact each and every one of you regarding
any issue we may be having. Thank you so very much.
<quite welcome>
Well, first off, I've got a 29 gal- emperor 400 w/bio wheel- CPR dual Bak Pak-
30.5 pounds of live Fiji rock from harbor aquatics- 35-36 pounds of live sand by
natures ocean- 4 feather dusters- 1 fridmani Pseudochromis- 1 yellow clown goby-
1 Banggai cardinal- 2 peppermint shrimp- one scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp- a
bunch of Cerith and Nassarius snails- 2 Astraea snails- assorted
hermits (blue legged, scarlet reef, left handed, red tips) As
I LOVE every specimen in my system, I've no problem finding
information on anything and everything in my tank here on your site. Thank
goodness!!!! My issue here is with the feather dusters. I
have read many things about their being fed and cared for properly, and so far
so good. As it's been from the start since I have gotten them. July
19, 2003. Although 3 days ago,
one did blow his top off!!!!! This is normal and/or acceptable
I know.
<it is almost certainly stress induced. And honestly, I do not see how a
large Hawaiian feather duster has a prayer of surviving in such a small
aquarium. At best, it will take months to slowly starve to death. Your system
simply is not big enough to support it (needing bigger aquaria, deeper sand beds
and/or refugia). Prepared foods do not adequately sustain these organisms>
I want to make sure that they are feeding and/or being fed correctly and what
they need to be fed. Originally, I would just feed them Selcon soaked
baby brine shrimp. Until I think I remember reading on your site that
even that may
be a bit large for them.
<correct>
I will proceed to blend them.....................what
I'm getting at is that I've read so many a times about the CLAM JUICE.
<may be helpful.. but is still limited nutritively>
I have bought Doxsee/Snow's Clam Juice, has no MSG or additives it
says. I am wondering if this will be suffice blended along with the
baby brine shrimp enriched with Selcon? Somehow, I feel horrible
horrible adding a "human table food" into my system.......and I
certainly don't want to harm anyone nor
create an algae bloom or anything of the sorts. Will this brand/type of clam
juice be fine to use????? Does
even this CLAM JUICE have to be blended???????
Will this "supermarket" bought clam juice be bad to add to the
tank?????
<its all a moot point here... I fear. I just don't see a single large feather
duster living to see even 1 year old, let alone 4 large ones on prepared foods.
My advice is to send these animals to a larger aquarium (100 gallons plus... and
aged over 1 year with a DSB)>
I hope to hear back from you soon, as I just want the best for the feather
dusters as anyone else would and I'd rather not bug u guys if I was able to find
the answer on the site, so thank you for your time.
<no worries... I just wish the news was better. Best regards, Anthony>
Robbed by the bandit (angel)
Hi Bob, I have acquired a black banded angel from a fellow fish fancier. He
has given me the angel in hopes of ME being able to keep it alive.
<A real challenge>
The fish is
about 3 month's in captivity and has now stopped eating regularly.
<Typical... actually, not so... this one has lasted much longer than most
all>
I have had
my best friend build me an acrylic tank (155 gal) to house this treasure that
should have been left in the ocean. I am going to put 175 pounds of Fiji
premium live rock in with a mixed sand/crushed Puka substrate. I have designed a
filter and it should be completed Thursday. The angel will be housed
only with a
cleaner wrasse, and 5 cleaner shrimp. I am going to put a Beckett style
skimmer and lightly ozonized in the column. I have access to all the local
wholesale
houses and have asked for their help in acquiring sponges, clams, small
shrimp, mussels and a cleaner wrasse (just in case). My question for you is, in
your
vast knowledge can I get this beauty to eat again. I have tried your tried and
true method of the "FENNER BLEND" to no luck this far. Any suggestion
would
be appreciated. I know leave the damn fish in the ocean where it belongs!!!
Thanks
<May seem strange, but do look into the larger pellet sizes of Pablo Tepoot's
"Spectrum" fish food... have been friends with Pablo for years, and
this past weekend made it down to visit him at his farms in Homestead (FLA) and
see firsthand the types of fishes he is keeping solely on this food... including
Parrotfishes, some finicky Butterflyfishes and Tangs... even some very nice
Apolemichthys spp. angels... Training this fish onto this basic food might
"do the trick". Otherwise your plan for the set-up, providing sessile
invertebrates to graze on sounds good. Bob Fenner>
Feeding Help For Saltwater Setup
>Hi.
>>Hello, Marina today.
>I currently have a yellow tang, dog face puffer, beauty rock angel, and 5
damsels in my 75 gallon SW tank. But I have all these different kinds of foods
my LFS sold me, sea veggies (like seaweed) for my tang, frozen angel formula for
Angel fish (said angels need sponge food in their diet), Prime Reef frozen food (said it's for most fishes and they sold it to me while I bought my White
Spotted Dog face Puffer) then I have sinking marine pellets for my damsels....
How should I go about feeding my fish?
>>Alternate foods. I would not be surprised if they all eat
each other's food, right? So, what you've inadvertently done is
provide them with a wide variety of foodstuffs. Just be sure that
your frozen foods are very well sealed, feed each sparingly, and on occasion add
some fresh meaty seafoods (shrimp, krill, squid). Also, you can soak
the foods a few times a week in Selcon to ensure BEST nutrition. You
and your fish will be golden.
>If I feed every fish their own food then the tank will get polluted...can
anyone suggest a schedule I can follow on when to feed and not to feed? Thanks
any help will be appreciated.
>>Remember, most of your fish graze all day long, the more frequent and
smaller the feedings you can give them, the better. Beyond that, just
be sure to only put into the tank what can be eaten in a very few minutes. If
you have a skimmer it should help with excess waste, if not, consider one. Hope
this helps! Marina
Feeding Techniques For A Finicky Fish
Hi Bob,
<Actually, Scott F. in today!>
I have your book "The Conscientious Marine
Aquarist". Great book!
<Isn't it? A real "keeper", IMO!>
Anyway, I wanted to tell you about my new Majestic angelfish. I bought him a
couple of weeks ago....before I saw the dismal writings in your book about their
failure to eat and thrive in
captivity.
<I'm sure that Bob will agree that many CAN thrive in captivity (records of
20 years or more exist!), but source and collection techniques can play a large
role in success...>
Anyway, when I got him he was fat and
healthy looking, but I could not get this shy fish to
eat anything. After spending $179 before tax at my
local fish store for this 5 inch fish, I was kind of
upset as he did not eat for the first 4 or 5 days. I
decided that I was determined to get him to eat. He
cost too much money to let die! He would not touch
flake food as he is so slow that the smaller fish in
the tank would gobble it up before he even came out
from the rocks to look at it. Live brine shrimp was
another disaster as he is so slow that he only would
catch maybe one or two before the other fish gobbled
them all up or they got sucked up by the filter. I
knew there must be something that he would eat...the
frozen krill would float to the top of the tank and he
didn't even know it was food. Well, I read that they
like to eat a lot of sponges and algae grazing on the
rocks in the wild. I finally got him to eat by taking
pieces of seaweed sheets and pieces of frozen angel
preparation made from sponges and krill (looks pink
like sponges in the wild?) and placed them on a small
rock with a rubber band. The other little fish in the
tank took to it right away and when he saw them he
joined in. These foods last on my 5 inch rock for an
hour or two which is long enough for this slow grazing
fish to eat.
<Excellent technique for feeding this great food source...Thanks for sharing
the idea..>
I also got a brine shrimp feeder from
Brine Shrimp Direct to feed him with great success. It
is a little mesh cage type thing that you put the live
adult brine shrimp into. It keeps them in the little
cage until the fish peck at them and suck them through
the mesh....Keeps them together in an area away from
the filters where a slow grazing fish like a Majestic
can feed over an hour or longer.
<Another good idea...>
Maybe you can suggest some of these ideas in your next
article or book that may help others keep these
beautiful fish alive.
<Thanks again for sharing these techniques with your fellow hobbyists! That's
what this site is all about!>
Sincerely, Lesley Sears in Houston
<Take care, Lesley! Regards, Scott F.>
"Weaning" A Fish?
Hi
<Hello there! Scott F. with you again!>
Thank you for returning my email.
<Your welcome!>
I am confused when you say "wean". How does one "wean"
a fish? When I wean dogs onto a different food, I simply mix the two and
than slowly wean off the first. With a fish, Do you simply stop the live
and give frozen, until he eats.
<Yep...I guess "wean" is a bad choice of words here, but you get
the general concept. Basically, you are trying to get the fish to eat prepared
foods by tempting it with a variety of items>
Or do you alternate from live to frozen, intermittently.
<You can...it's all up to you- and to the fish!>
I have noticed that if I feed live for a day or so, the third day he will eat
frozen ( I am assuming he thinks it is live, at first). But after a few nibbles
he realizes it is different, and does not finish.
<Well, you can try with frozen food of the same variety that you are feeding
live (i.e.; Mysis or brine shrimp...)>
Another question. I told you originally that I had two new cardinals in a
QT. One has since died, not sure why, I only had him for a few days. It is
a 10 gal. tank, water levels are good. I did put in 1 1/2 tsp. of CopperSafe.
I am wondering, if from now on, I should not put in CopperSafe. Why try to
fix something that is not broken. In other words, since they do not appear
sickly when I purchased them, maybe the CopperSafe is stressing them out unnecessarily.
<Bingo! I am a huge fan of quarantine, and a big fan of copper use. However,
I do not recommend copper for "prophylactic" purposes. In fact, many
fish cannot tolerate copper as a treatment, either. I agree with your
conclusion- "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!">
I have only natural light on the tank. Is this sufficient?
<For a quarantine tank, ambient room lighting is fine...It gives shy fishes a
chance to be relaxed and comfortable...>
I have also been told to feed QT fish, every other day. Is this good
advice.
<Well, on one hand, I can see some logic to this, because generally, a
quarantine tank has a small filter (such as a sponge filter), and it is quite
taxing to load up a small tank with organics. However, in the long run, it's
better to feed your newly-acquired fishes as much as they will eat, and to
compensate for the metabolic products produced by engaging in frequent small
water changes...>
Thanks for your feedback
<My pleasure! I hope all works out for you and your fishes! Regards, Scott
F>
- Looking For... -
Do you sell Mysis shrimps?
Thank you,
Mary
<I'm afraid we do not. Please check our links page for some retailers who
might:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/WWMAdminSubWebIndex/general_links_pg.htm
Cheers, J -- >
Feeding Frozen Food
hi!!
<HI!>
Is it okay to feed frozen foods to my tang, clownfish and damsel or do I have to
defrost it? Thanks
<Either way will work, it is best to defrost it in some tank water and then
toss the water before feeding. The packing juices can affect your
water quality. I will admit that I am guilty of running through the
house on my way out the door throwing frozen cubes in all my tanks. -Gage>
Cyclop-eeze for Boxfish?
Hi Bob
<Sal>
Thanks for the idea. Maybe I could follow in your footsteps and write a book.
<Of a certainty yes>
I do have a new question ( of course ). I' m reading about a food that I just
heard about called Cyclop-eeze. Have you heard of them?
<Yes, saw it fed at a local marine club meeting just two nights back. Has a
very good reputation>
Do you think it could be fed to adult fish ( cowfish )?
<It's tiny... but worth a try... you could make it into "cubes"...
with a binder... other materials... homemade>
The website says food size is 800 microns. Sounds like a very good food source.
Id like to know what you think. As always thank you very
much.
<Worth trying. Bob Fenner>
-Frozen food juice, does it do a body good?-
While reading the daily FAQs this morning, I came across a response by Kevin
to a phosphate question that suggests draining the juice from the Hikari Mysis
shrimp the person is feeding the fish. <Well, if the incredibly handsome and
intelligent Kevin said it, then you better believe it. ;) > I feed my fish
different foods but one type is Aqua-Yums Mysis shrimp. Is the
draining of the juice an across the board technique or just for Hikari brand
foods. <It's always recommended that you ditch the packing juice.> I had
never considered draining the juice before and was also wondering if this
techniques is supposed to be performed on all foods? <It would be a good
idea, but I've been a non-juice drainer for years and have had no problem. That
said, I don't use Hikari Mysis shrimp. I believe in that question, the aquarist
couldn't figure out where the po4 was coming from, and he had apparently done
everything right except that he fed an entire cube per day.> My water
parameters have always been acceptable NH3 and NO2 0, NO3 10, ALK
10, Ca 400, pH 8.2, temp 79-80, and salinity 1.023 - 1.024 but I
don't test for phosphates or any of the other more specialized parameters as I
just keep fish and a few crabs. <There's nothing toxic about phosphate to
your critters, it's just an algae fuel and a problem for people with calcium
depositing inverts. Have your LFS test your tank for phosphate, you could be on
your way to an algae bloom and not even know it! -Kevin> Thanks, Ray
- Foods, Feeding -
Kind Crew,
Bob, Anthony, Scott, Steven those who have answered me directly, and the
remainder of the crew whose responses have some how affected me directly or
indirectly, Lorenzo and others who write and respond on the forum, a letter of
praise and a thank you for helping me along the way. Sitting back
looking at my tank, I am so pleased on what it's becoming. I managed to properly
upgrade from a 30 to a 75, without losing a fish, Cured live rock purchased
online, have the makings of a DSB, 4" Southdown, waiting on the critters,
before ordering some kits, properly aerate, buffer and change 4 gallons of water
twice weekly, skim what can be skimmed from the skimmer I have, waiting for the
funds to upgrade but keeping the tank under stocked and water changed in the
mean time. Properly test, looking into supplements for the Live Rock, Purchased
and read several times (all) and highly recommend Mike Paletta, "The New
Marine Aquarium, Bob's CMA, Anthony's, Book of Coral propagation and Wilkerson's
Clownfishes, and the latest Bob and Anthony's Reef Invert, which helped me add
some peppermint shrimp, snails, (Astrea and Nassarius, Turbo's hard to find at
the moment) and a serpent star, the non greenish variety. And the latest
properly adding a long nose to the tank. <Uhh... a long nose what? I can
think of a couple of fish with this name - Hawkfish, butterfly... which one?>
After 3 weeks of QT, which thankfully was only precautionary. All the work that
you do is very much appreciated. Currently playing the waiting game and
researching before adding anything else to the tank until next year after the
new tank becomes further developed. And If I may pose a few question at the
moment, I understand the long-nose (the must have fish) may tend to nip at some
corals but was wondering on the Candy Cane, Montipora, or possible the mushroom
corals. <All fish are individuals and it is very hard to predict exactly what
and why they will nip at certain things.> I have chosen these, from what I
understand as some of the less demanding, or may there be possible some others
safe with the long-nose? <Again... hard to predict, better to use trial and
error to get the definitive answer, and remove the identified snack items before
they are destroyed.> If not, I will be content to enjoy the FOWLR set up. As
for the long-nose he enjoys the Mysis shrimp and a variation of Fenner's Mash,
but not sure about the flakes. Is this something that will happen in time or
should I look to add more of the frozen variety. <I would skip flake food
entirely... is good to have around when bringing in new fish as [again] it's
hard to predict what some fish will and won't eat, but in all cases try to wean
them off and onto better, frozen foods.> I will be picking up frozen krill
for the clowns, anything else I should look at? <Anything meaty - squid,
Mysis, clams, etc.>
Thanks again,
DaveK
<Cheers, J -- >
Bioblend
Where can I buy more BioBlend Tropical Fish Food in Miami, Florida? I
can't
find it at my local stores. My fish love it.
Thanks,
Daniel Bandklayder
<Mmm, either call around to your local stores (you can find them in the
"Yellow Pages") and ask if they carry Marineland's food line, or take
a look on the Net for etailers of aquarium supplies re the same. Bob Fenner>
Nori Story...
Hi...
<Hi there- Scott F. at your service tonight!>
I recently purchased Nori in our local Japanese market...I noticed that when
Nori gets wet it becomes hard to chew, is it okay for my fish to eat this?
<Well, usually the sushi Nori gets soft over time after it's submerged...It
should be fine for fishes. I'm assuming that you're talking about the kind
that's used for sushi, right? Perhaps you purchased kombu (A type of kelp),
which is thicker and tougher? Do ask the folks at the market- they'll know which
one you're looking for...Even better- try some fresh Gracilaria macroalgae
("Ogo"), which can be purchased either live from e-tailers like
Indo-Pacific Sea Farms, or refrigerated, ready for (human) consumption at many
Asian markets. Probably the best captive diet available for tangs! Bon Apetit!
Regards, Scott F>
55 gal with an eel and 2 triggers <Way overcrowded... Ian!>
I looked through the FAQ's first and didn't find my specific question.
So my question is:
I have a Predatory tank.
55 gal. <this aquarium is too small for the two triggers and the eel in the
long run. year or so)>
(2) Triggers. 2" Picasso. 4' Blue Throat.
(1) Eel 18.5" Zebra.
(5) Large Trigger proof hermits.<these hermits will be consumed in time>
Fluval 204 Canister.
W/D SUMP W/Skimmer.
How often to feed them?<once a day...sparingly>
This is such a subjective question, with each LFS, Blog and BBS offering a WIDE
variety of suggestions.
They would eat all day if I let them.<yes they would>
I feed lightly daily for the Triggers and every other day for the eel!?!<that
sounds about right>
Please advise.<good luck, IanB>
Thanks, as always.
-Jake
How often should I feed and fish recommendation - 7/24/03
Thank you, I have a timer set to come on at 4 p.m. and go off at 10:30 P.M.,
but wanted to make sure that was enough for the fish. <Up to you, but I like
8 hours myself>
A couple more questions please. <Sure> Tell me your
recommendation on how many times a day I should feed my fish. The
owner of a local fish store told me once a day was
sufficient. (clowns, dwarf angel, Dottyback) <I would recommend
small feedings of a few to three times a day which means enough food in each
feeding for each fish to get a bit of food. This may take some time to identify
who is getting enough and who isn't without trashing your biological filtration
by overfeeding. My reasoning for the multiple times a day is two fold, natural
to the fish (these fish are very active and constantly exerting energy) and is
more natural to the environment where they come from. They constantly scavenge
for food on the reef. So my methodology is just a natural progression to a more
"realistic" (used loosely) fish regime. Plus, it gives fish, who may
be a little shy about eating, a few chances to grab a bite.>
Also, I have been considering getting a pair of pajama Cardinalfish, but have
read that they won't show themselves much with the light on and will not accept
flake food. <Well, I think compatibility is more the issue here than the
feeding and viewing of your fish. The fish you have are quite active and
excitable. Cardinals in general are typically slow moving, shy, docile fish. In
the right tank these are great fish to have, fairly hardy once established, and
are being commercially farmed (no environmental impact). It doesn't get any
better than that! So I personally would hold off on putting these in a tank with
your current inhabitants if you can. -Paul> Please
advise. Thank you, James
-Prepping veggies for tangs-
Hi, I just wonder how to prep veggies for Tangs (lettuce, broccoli etc.).
Should I boil them ? For how long?
<No need to feed terrestrial foods. Look for dried seaweeds at your local
fish store, as well as live marine macroalgae. You can even grow your own in a
separate refugium to feed your tangs. Bottom line: seaweed and macroalgae are
soooooo much better for your fish than lettuce or any other terrestrial food.
-Kevin>
Thank you.
To Feed Or Not To Feed (Fish and Coral Feeding)
Hi Bob et all..
<Scott F. at the keyboard tonight!>
I am very new to this game - well after 6 months into my first reef tank
(100gal), I seem to be making some progress, with things starting to look good,
even the hair algae are now reducing since I rearranged some of the live rock to
give a better flow at the bottom of the tank.
<Cool! It's neat how a seemingly simple adjustment can yield huge
dividends...>
Maybe you can help with a question regarding feeding of my fish. I have 4 green
/ blue Chromis, Yellow tang, Sailfin tang, algae blenny along with 2 cleaner
shrimps, 8 hermit crabs and some snails. I have been feeding the fish with
either frozen brine shrimp or a frozen 'formula' from blister packs,
occasionally some marine flake food with a clip of romaine lettuce which only
the Sailfin really eats.
<I'd really avoid Romaine lettuce. It has very little nutritional value for
marine fishes, can potentially leach nitrate into your water, and is simply not
as healthy for your fish as green items of marine origin, such as microalgae,
Nori, or my favorite macroalgae, Gracilaria, which Zebrasoma tangs just freak
out over! Give it a try1>
Reading through your q&a's, I understand that brine shrimp is not good?
<It's not bad...It just doesn't have a lot of nutrition, unless enriched
substantially. Kind of like eating Power Bars all the time. Yes- they supply
some vitamins, protein, etc.- but they come up short as a staple diet.>
and you recommend Mysis shrimp.
<Much, much better nutritionally>
Well, I bought some, but none of the fish will touch it.
<Odd...but it does happen now and again when fish aren't used to a new
food>
Should I keep trying?
<I certainly would!>
I don't what to start accumulating uneaten food if I can help it.
<Just feed small amounts and try to clean up what is not eaten>
How about the sun coral that I have? It is the most gorgeous thing in the world
when it opens to feed about an hour after I feed the fish. Should I give it
anything extra than it gets in from the water, a friend suggested hand feeding
with lobster eggs..
<It should receive some supplementary feeding- ideally- you could remove it
into a separate dish, filled with tank water, and place food into the water in
the dish. Let the coral feed for about a half an hour, and then return it to the
tank. You could use the "packing juice" from your frozen foods to feed
it...>
FYI-I also have various xenia, a large leather toadstool and a Goniopora. Ron
Patmore
<The Goniopora may require supplemental feeding, too...I'd recommend that you
purchase a copy of Anthony Calfo's must-have "Book of Coral
Propagation" for more information on the care and feeding of these corals
in the aquarium. I think that you'll love it! Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
- What About this Food? -
Also, I'm feeding a pellet food called Vibra Grow from Red Sea. Angel seems
to like it but the problem is the pellets are so small that they are hard to
spot, often breaking up into smaller pieces upon entering the aquarium. THAT'S
CAUSE THE BOTTLE SAYS LARGE PELLETS ha ha. I doubt the few that he actually
spots and eats is enough for him. Is this food healthy?
<Well, only if it's getting eaten I suppose... dry pellets are better than
flake food, but ideally you should be trying frozen foods like Angel Formula,
Formula One, or even raw sea food from the super market, shrimp, squid, etc.
Cheers, J -- >
Bristle worms For Dinner
Can marine fish eat bristle worms without harm?
<Oh yes! For many fishes and non-fishes sedentariate polychaetes of many
sorts are meals du jour>
I have a 180 gallon with
fish and soft corals and also a 12 gallon nano reef. The nano reef
currently has no fish in it and the bristle worms are becoming quite
abundant. I bought a trap to catch the worms. I have a 7
inch Formosa
Wrasse and a 4 inch Imperator Angel in the 180 (among others). The
Wrasse
and Imperator chomp the bristle worms if I throw them in (worms up to 1 1/2
inches). Will the worms hurt the fish internally if they eat them?
<Not at all>
Another question regarding the Imperator. My Imperator likes to lay
around
on his side. He snuggles up to pieces of live rock and lays on his
side
about a 1/4 of an inch over the rock. When I come up to the tank, and
he
sees me, he'll swim right over to me. He is about 3 years old and is
in
excellent health, he is starting to get his adult color pattern. Why
does
he lay around on his side and hover over the live rock?
<Some specimens "just do this"... perhaps this laying down behavior
has some "survival value"... that is, perhaps acting so confers
advantages, like being less visible or palatable to potential predators. Bob
Fenner>
Thanks,
Dave
Rumble On The Reef (Round 2)
Here is an interesting follow up. I used to only feed a wide
range of frozen food (Mysis shrimp, enriched brine, plankton, squid, etc.). To
reduce nitrates down, I experimented with dried food because I have read that is
has less nitrates. For the last couple of weeks it was only dried
food (twice a day). A couple days ago, I switched backed to frozen
food (twice a day) and the aggression has noticeably dropped. What
happened?
<Wow...ya got me on that one...Maybe, the fishes preferred the frozen foods,
and after a week of flakes, they became more interested in the frozen food than
they were in beating the crap out of each other!? Or, it could simply be a
coincidence...The longer that these fishes were together, the more "used to
each other" they became...Either way, lets be thankful! Glad to hear it!
Regards, Scott F.>
Managing A Busy System
Hey guys,
<Scott F. your guy today!>
Hamish here from the U.K. You've given me invaluable advice in the past, and I'm
back for more! Got a 70 (U.K.) gallon system, tank & sump, biological
filters, fish only system, 4 of them: red-tooth trigger, lipstick tang, rock
beauty & maroon clown. Had the system for a year now, lost only a couple of
fish to stress initially, do 10% water changes every 10 days, and pretty much do
all the necessary work on a daily basis.
<Sounds like a formula for success...Glad the Rock Beauty is doing well! Not
to harp- but I'm sure you know that a larger system is gonna be required down
the line for these fishes...They do grow to substantial sizes!>
My Dad, who lives in Florida, called the other day to say that he'd met a guy
with a huge system, invertebrates and small fish, who said that regular water
changes were a thing of the past, he merely topped up each day to replace
evaporation; not sure when he does any water changes. So what's with that?
<I have to quote Anthony on this one: "Even a blind squirrel finds a nut
sometimes..." Basically, just because this guy seems to have his system
working without following one of the basic aspects of aquarium husbandry. So
what if he has a light bioload...Sure, that helps keep nutrient accumulation
down somewhat, but we're talking about a closed system here. Even with some
forms of nutrient export (i.e.; protein skimming and mechanical filtration), water
exchanges will be required to maintain a viable system for the long term. Trace
elements get depleted, organics accumulate, etc. I really think that this guy is
luckier than good...I certainly wouldn't follow his lead.>
Also, the trigger and tang are about 6 inches long, the other two a
bit smaller. I feed them: 3 1/2 cubes of omega+ brine shrimp each day
(3 sep. feedings), the tang gets a leaf of lettuce, then in the afternoon some
dried seaweed, the trigger and the other two get half a cube of squid, and half
a cube of mussel. For a treat, the trigger occasionally gets a prawn to wolf
down. This all happens on a day when I'm around to do all this, it's
usually a little less, but is it still too much? The reason I'm asking is
because I've just noticed a coating of what appears to be white dust-like spores
over some of the rocks, with tiny little thread-like worms climbing around.
Phoned my dealer, he said it wasn't immediately serious because they weren't on
the fish, it was just a result of excess food in the tank. I do monitor their
feeding, they finish everything I put in there, little and
often is my policy. But are leftovers inevitable, and are these worms going to
jeopardize the health of the fish? My dealer also suggested just giving the
rocks a scrub to remove the bulk of the parasite, but some are easier to move
than others. The rock isn't live. Any advice here would be much appreciated.
Yours, Hamish.
<Well, Hamish- I agree with the "small and often" feeding regimen.
So important to keep heavy eaters fed well. However, the equal obligation is to
engage in strict husbandry procedures. Keep up those regular water changes
(perhaps you might want to consider my semi-obsessive rule of two 5% water
changes per week?), clean all mechanical filter media regularly, and make
liberal use of aggressive protein skimming. As far as the "worms" are
concerned, it's hard to be 100% certain what these are without a photo. However,
I agree with the dealer, in that these (probably harmless) creatures are
multiplying rapidly as a result of increasing nutrients in the system. You
certainly can remove them manually if they get to be annoying. However, I'd like
to solve the "root problem", which is nutrient accumulation. Simply
continue or enhance your good husbandry techniques, and you'll see an
improvement...Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Frozen food is all they'll eat!
I have a trigger clown fish, a Naso Tang, a yellow Foxface, 2 damsels, and a
blenny. <I hope you have a large tank!> All they will eat is frozen food
(Brine Shrimp is by far the favorite). The guy at PetLand Discount told me that
the tang MUST eat the Spirulina in order to be healthy, but it won't eat the
flakes, only the frozen food!
<Your LFS guy is on the right track, tangs do need lots of algae in their
diets to stay healthy. Spirulina is just one of the many different kinds of
algae that you can feed them. If the tang actively grazes, buy some dried
seaweed from your LFS or some Nori from the local sushi bar. A small sheet of
this stuff can be rubber banded to a rock for the tang to graze on during the
day.>
What should I do? The fish eat like CRAZY!!! It's like they are always hungry,
but only for the meaty foods!
<Try an algae based frozen food>
I do see the tang nibbling at the algae on the live rocks from time to time.
Is the brine shrimp enough nutrition for them?
<Alone, no. Brine shrimp is pretty nutritionally deficient by itself. SFBB
has frozen Spirulina gut-loaded brine shrimp called "Spirulina enriched
brine shrimp" that your shop could easily get. Please, do find several
other varieties of food that they will like including Mysis shrimp and plenty of
algae based foods. If your store only has brine, you need to find another store!
Happy reefing, -Kevin>
- Fish Food -
Crew people:
<Good day, JasonC here...>
There is often comparison of fish to humans, as far as basic nutritional needs,
stress and disease. I have seen fish refuse food that they don't seem to like.
Using that line of thinking, do fish also spit out/refuse food that has gone
bad/stale/rotten? <I prefer the comparison of fish to dogs myself... some
fish will eat most anything, regardless of the food's quality. Some fish, as you
noted are finicky... hard to predict.> Also, what is with the fish food sizes
in the industry? <I don't follow...> I know it is all about money, but
come on! <?> I haven't even put a dent in some of my smallest purchases of
frozen, pellet and flake foods and they are near of past
expiration. <Or perhaps you are just conservative. I've never had
any frozen food that long... but then again, my dog typically gets the daily
excess.> No wonder overfeeding/algae problems are in the daily FAQs, well,
almost daily! <Perhaps.> Thanks, Rich.
<Cheers, J -- >
Carnivores love the Nori!
Greetings crew!
<Back at ya, Emerson!>
I recently added a 2" Coral Beauty Angel to my 55g and started placing Nori
on a clip in the tank daily. The Beauty has yet to take a liking to the Nori,
but seems to be plumping up never the less on the 75lbs of LR. On the other hand
all my other fish (2 bar gobies, 2 Firefish gobies and 2 female carpenters
flasher wrasse' which I understand are all predominantly carnivorous) can't seem
to get enough of the Nori. I place folded strips of Nori about 1"x 2"
in the tank a few hours after lights on and remove any remaining, and feed an
alternating routine of about 1/4 tsp or 1/3 cube of frozen Mysis/blood
worms/Marine Cuisine Carnivore mix a few hours before lights off.
My two main concerns are: Are the carnivores going for the Nori because I
am not feeding them enough meaty goodies? By behaviour and appearance they seem
to be very healthy to me...very active and aware with great color and no outward
signs of stress. Will the addition of Nori to the carnivores diet have
negative effects in the future?
<Just because a fish is listed as carnivore does not mean they exclusively
eat meat. My Firefish love a mixture I make that includes Nori. I would not
worry>
In your opinion have I overcrowded my tank? Id like to possibly
add one more 3-4" fish but I'm afraid I would be pushing it. Weekly
water changes of 10g and addition of Lugol's are the major maintenance performed
as well as the monthly skimmer/filter cleaning.
Specs: 55g; 75lbs LR; 4.5" sugar sized aragonite DSB; Remora Pro w/Mag 3;
Eheim 2217 w/ the ceramic good stuff (I know...it's a freshwater filter, but I
had it laying around and like the spray bar's effect on surface gunk); Emperor
280 used for carbon placement only; and 2 Rio 800's for circulation. Lighting is
CSL 4x65 running 2 actinics and 2 8800K...soon to be replaced with 3 10,000K and
1 actinic (bulb a week of course).
Livestock: 2" Coral Beauty, 2 x 4" bar gobies, 2 x 3"
Firefish gobies, 2 x 2" female carpenteri flasher wrasse, Skunk cleaner
shrimp, Peppermint shrimp, Blue Tuxedo urchin, 10? snails and 5 red/blue leg
hermits...more limpets and *pods than you could shake a stick at, oh and don't
forget about that creepy 4" bristle worm I see sometimes. Some zoanthids
and mushrooms are also reproducing like mad.
water: ph 8.1-8.2, s.g. 1.023 at 80F, dKH 10, calc 350, ammonia, nitrite,
and nitrate are all zero.
<I would say you are at the limit. Besides, this just gives you a reason to
start planning that 125 eh? <G>, Take care, Don> Thank you for
you time! Emerson
What is Nori?
What is Nori? Who makes it? Is that flakes? Pellets? <<Is an algae, Porphyra...
dried, formed into sheers by aquaculturists in Asia. RMF>>
<It comes in strips and can usually be found at your LFS or grocery
store. Cody>
Thank you,
Luke
Cucumber as food for marine fish?
I was told today at local pet store that fresh, pealed cucumber slice is a great
treat to marine fishes...
Is that true? <I have never heard of this but I would stick to foods of
marine origin. Nori is good green source and many herbivores will go
crazy over it. Cody>
Thank you,
Luke
Re: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/nutr.htm
>Hello everyone at WETWEB.
>>This crewmember, Marina, says hello.
>This letter to you today is to let you know how much I learned about feeding
my reef tank. The link above was wonderful! So many questions and answers on one
page gave me so much to ponder, and as a result, my tank received a very nice
dinner tonight consisting of silversides, plankton, fresh shrimp, a bit if
Spirulina and some vitamins, all finely minced to a nice mush. All my fish and
inverts 'danced' with joy! I will only feed this about 3 times a week because my
population is low.
Just wanted you to know, I appreciate the site and all the info!
Pam
>>Great, we're all glad to hear it. Let the joy of happy
feedings ensue! Marina
PS~ There will be times however, when I just want to talk to you lovely people
instead of surfing through your pages!!
Is it ok to feed marine fish with bloodworms (Hikari brand) ?
Thank you,
Luke
<Yes, do "mix them in" with other foods at first... so your
livestock gains familiarity. Bob Fenner>
Garlic and algal foods
<Hi Edwin, PF here again.>
I was wondering if adding garlic to the food would help to whet the fish's
appetite. <Maybe, I know mine like it.> Would appreciate your comments.
Also, as my tank lacks natural algae ( I only have brown algae on the rocks), I
need to supplement my fishes some leafy matter for a balanced diet. Besides
lettuce, what other greenery would you suggest that is cost effective and able
to satisfy my fishes? Spinach? <Well, freeze it first. Same with broccoli. If
your grocery doesn't carry sushi Nori, try to get to an Asian grocery. There are
many varieties of dried seaweeds there. Dried seaweeds are perfectly acceptable
as food. Better dried seaweed than fresh terrestrial.>
I have tried the method of cultivating natural algae by placing some rocks from
the main tank under indirect sunlight. However, instead of getting green algae,
I get a sticky black tar like substance growing on them. What are these?
<Sound like Cyanobacteria. You could try growing macroalgae (you can buy it
online), but that can be tricky.>
How can I get the desirable green algae to grow in my main tanks? I tried strong
illumination a few hours everyday but I only get the brown algae. <Green hair
algae is really not the answer. As for macroalgae, that has to be seeded into
the main tank.>
Tks in advance.
<I hope that helps Edwin, if not, we can continue our conversation. Have a
good evening, PF>
Calcium and food additive
Hi there. Thanks in advance for the help that all of you provide. It is
respected and appreciated by everyone. Now I need your advice concerning
my calcium supplementation and testing for my 29gal. tank that contains
as follows: 1-Maroon Clown, 1-Bangaii Cardinal, 1-Diadema Basslet,
1-Bullseye Pistol Shrimp, 2-E. Quadricolor anemones, 2- 4" Torch corals,
Yellow polyps, 1-Fungia, misc. hermits & snails. Lighting- 2-55w PC
(50/50 actinic, 10000K),1-20W actinic. Temp-80F,salinity-1.023. AquaC
Remora Pro w/ Magdrive pump. I currently use Seachem Reef Calcium and
Reef Complete and use Seachem Reef Status for testing. Tests show
325-350ppm calcium. Torch coral shows good growth in past 6 months
(branching from 2 original to 2 separate colonies of 4 branches each) Do
you recommend a different calcium addition and/or test??
<In fact, this is the same calcium additive I and others here use. Personally
I like the Salifert tests and LaMotte get high marks as well. If you are
concerned that your tests are off, try to find an LFS/friend that can test
the same water sample to confirm your readings.>
Also I have experimented with adding off the shelf Fish oil concentrate (gel
caps for
human consumption, omega 3fatty acids) to various foods (freeze dried
krill, plankton, frozen Formula One) but this causes the skimmer to act up
somewhat. Do you think that adding this to the food has any appreciable
benefit or should I discontinue??
<I have heard of using this but not tried it myself. Personally I like to
soak
the food in Selcon.>
Thank you very much for your guidance and I apologize for the long
message.
<No problem and no apology necessary. I hope this helps. Don>
Nathan
Nutrition and clean-up
>Greetings to you!
>>To you as well, John!
>I first want to thank you for the countless questions you have
answered. My three fish are doing well, in large part because of your
advice. I also want to apologize again for the length of this
question.
>>Apology accepted.
>My first question relates to nutrition. After reading about the
potential pitfalls of food that uses gelatin, I decided to try to make my
own. My current tenants include a solar fairy wrasse, true percula,
and a citron goby. I made a concoction (much to my wife's chagrin) of
raw shrimp, scallops and squid, with some sushi Nori and Kent Zoe
supplement. Is this a varied enough diet for long-term
sustenance? It was rather economical, and I was able to freeze it in
2oz portions using those small restaurant containers. They also
really enjoy it.
>>I should say so, it sounds delicious. I would also offer Nori
on a clip for those who might like to graze, as well as Spirulina algae--it
comes in flakes, frozen, and in pellet/wafer form. You can also vary
what they get by adding things such as clam, fish, silversides, and marine algae
every once in a while. Be sure not to make the batches too large, as
nutrient content can be lost with prolonged freezing.
>Next question. I have decided to eschew crabs for
clean-up. I currently have three Turbos, one queen conch (which will
be traded when it gets too large) and six Nassarius snails. I've been
adding them a couple at a time, based on perceived need. How many
Nassarius do you believe would be ideal for this size tank (30
gal)? Are there any other non-crab denizens that would co-exist with
the snails? Brittle star, perhaps?
>>Brittle stars are wonderful, I also like serpents. I can't
give you a hard and fast rule for the stocking of the snails,
however. In my opinion it would be better to be a bit understocked,
and it's your own observations that help make that determination.
>One more: As stated above, one of my residents is a red-headed
fairy wrasse. I bought him because he didn't look like he would make
it too much longer in the LFS (not a good reason, I know, but I can't help it -
my wife and I feel like we have to rescue every animal).
>>Well, not much we can do to change either of you, is
there? ;)
>I rearranged the rock to provide a lot of caves and underpasses for
it. I have observed the tank for hours, and I have yet to see a
single aggressive movement among them. In fact, the three often 'hang
out' together in the same part of the tank. I
would hate to have to lose the wrasse - for practical as well as personal
reasons. What is the long-term prognosis for this arrangement?
>>Long term, expect to find certain tasty small mollusks and arthropods to
become wrasse-candy. I'll suggest you don't replace what's eaten.
>My tank readings have remained stable and ideal for two months (except a
slightly low pH at 8.0-8.1, and the 0.1 PO4 readings - slowly working
on that). Thanks again for all the advice! JPM
>>You're quite welcome, and hopefully you'll get a handle on those
phosphate readings. Good luck! Marina
Faulting Foul Food? "Pollution in a Bottle" 3/24/03
Hi again guys Well...I am writing this with head hung low....I have written
to you all and have received great info from you concerning problems I've been
having with my tank and my corals dying. After all I have asked, it all came
down to one very very stupid mistake on my part. Did you know that just because
a bottle of invert smorgasbord sits on a unrefrigerated shelf, that it can't
continue to do that after you open it.
<actually.... even refrigerated, such products have earned the moniker
"pollution in a bottle". The bigger surprise for you might be that
very few if any corals actually eat such meaty suspensions... most of the
product is wasted and simply contributes to nuisance algae. The main problem
(among many) is particle size with these bottled algae fertilizers :p>
Well it can't and the bottle clearly states that in the instructions. I guess
for the last few months I have been polluting my tank as I alternated my
feedings of the smorgasbord
<pollution yes... toxic, doubtful in small quantities. It was simply
degraded>
and my plankton (which by the way I do keep in the fridge).
<excellent>
So from someone who has learned the hard way, please
make sure in you continuing great advise that you include the " please read
the instructions" notation on anything you put in your tanks. Thanks for
all the help Robert
<will do, my friend... and let me strongly suggest that you save your money
on such bottled food supplements... it is better spent elsewhere (refugia, water
changes, etc). Anthony>
Dried Sponges For Food?
Hello there,
<Hey there! Scott F. with you today>
I am the proud owner of a Majestic angel who is doing very well as the sole
inhabitant of a 120 gallon tank. Unfortunately in the UK few people have heard
of Angel Formula type foods based on sponges and as far as I know there is no
retailer stocking any. I
spoke to the main wholesaler in the country and they told me that there are
restrictions re the import of such foods, therefore I can't have it imported,
particularly in its frozen form.
I want to try and give my angel some sponges and I read somewhere that I can get
dried sponges/tunicates from an oriental food store.
Questions:
Is it worth my trying? Are dried sponges good enough?
Do they make an adequate substitute?
<Honestly, I don't think that it is necessary or worth the effort to secure
dried sponges for this fish. Number one, I'm not sure what types of sponges they
would be, and, number two- I'm questioning what, if any, nutritional value dried
sponges would have. Also, P. navarchus does not eat a great deal of sponge
material in nature, when compared to say, the Rock Beauty or Regal Angel, so it
should be very easy to get this fish to eat other prepared foods. Hikari makes
an excellent "Angel" food, which seems to be more "tubeworm
based" (although it does include sponge in the ingredient list), and is a
great food that may also be available in the UK. Also, Gamma frozen Mysis is one
of the best foods you can feed to angels, IMO, and is eagerly
accepted>
Do they (the sponges) have a special name, in other words can I be sure that
they have not been treated for human consumption?
<Honestly cannot say- which is yet another reason to pass on these items,
IMO>
Thanks for your help, Massimo, Brighton UK
<And thank you for stopping by, Massimo! Enjoy your wonderful Majestic Angel!
Regards, Scott F>
Re: first time questions (foods for marines)
Hi
Mike from VA here
<Hi Mike you got Cody today!>
this is my first salt water aquarium and I am doing good so far. I am two months
into set-up. I followed most of what I read in CMA (sorry Bob but soon as I
cycled I couldn’t stop buying fish). other than adding fish too fast
everything is fine.
I purchased a yellow tang, Sebae clownfish, coral beauty, and then a Humu
trigger. everything has went fine other than the trigger getting cloudy eyes
which is going away after small water changes, he is becoming very active.
ok, my main question is feeding these living creatures I have adopted. I have
been feeding ocean nutrition/prime reef. The tang loves it. The CB
eats it but I can see it in his eye's he is hoping I drop something better next
time. The Sebae eats anything, the trigger eats everything . I need a good
routine to get into. So if I could get some advise on what
when and how many times to feed I think I would be well on my way to having an
excellent aquarium.
thx
55 gallon FOWLR
60lbs. LR
4'' DSB
skimmer
OTB filter
200w submers. heater
1 48'' actinic
1 48'' 20k full spectrum
< Try feeding some frozen foods like Mysis shrimp and other frozen
preparations. I feed my fish twice a day, one meal is frozen
and the other is dried. Also make sure the tang is getting lots of
algae in his diet, Ocean Nutrition’s formula 2 and dried algae strips are good
foods for this. Cody>
Feeding, vitamins and water additives
Thank you for your prompt reply yesterday. being the worry-wart I
am, I have a feeding question for you. In my 55, I have 35 lbs of
live rock, 25 lbs of base rock, 2 false Percs (1.5"), 1 royal Dottyback
(2"), 1 3 stripped damsel (pioneer from day one of the tank and oddly my
favorite), 1 spotted watchman goby (4"), and a colony of brown
zoanthids. Anyway, in the AM I feed a good pinch of omega 1 flakes, a
small amount of brine shrimp, and a
capful of reef solutions. I put mix in a 12 ounce glass of pre-made ro/di
freshwater and pour it in. Additionally, the goby gets a small chunk
of krill (fed by hand).
In the PM, they get frozen foods (1/3 emerald entree, 1/3 frozen brine, 1/3
marine medley?) all San Fran. Bay products.
The tang in qt (ick recovery) gets the same, but on a much smaller scale, as
well as a small piece of seaweed under an inert rock in the qt. Is
this a good regimen, and could you recommend liquid vitamins that I could
include on a regular basis.
<Sounds fine if not overdone. I might sub Mysis for brine, which offer
nothing nutritive. Most folks are happy with Selcon.>
(I supplement w/ calc, iodine, Stron/ Moly, trace elements) thank
you!!! John M. McCarty
<Just make sure you are dosing these according to good quality tests/actual
use as needed. Also test for carbonate alk/buffer needs, esp. with constant 12
ounce per day unbuffered RO water.
Enjoy! Craig>
Skimmer
Quick questions: 1. I'm following your advice and gradually removing media
from the canister filters, moving towards LR and efficient skimmer. ,
<Awesome> All the media from the Juwel internal filter removed, no rise in
nitrite. New
skimmer seems to be working fine except when I feed the tank (very little at
present), the foam collapses and takes ages to build up again. Actually
delivery of skimmate to the cup can stop for at least a day. Is this normal.
I'm assuming this is due to some constituent of the food coating the cone of
the cup and causing the bubbles to burst early on contact. <Check
to make sure the skimmer is adjusted properly and every time you empty the cup
wipe off the cone also.>
2. In your opinion is purchased frozen fish food (I try to feed a variety,
with only a small amount of the ubiquitous brine shrimp) good, or is a trip
to the supermarket and a quick, if messy, food processing of shrimp, squid,
clams, cockles etc. to freeze myself, better. When I last kept marine fish
(early 70's) store bought do-it-yourself food was a big no no because
of
disease. <Either will work, just make sure you are getting the
right food stuffs. Cody>
Thanks
Brian
Feeding The Fallow Tank...
Scott, thanks for the info. One more question. When I
let the tank run fallow, what and how often do I feed the inverts in the tank?
<I would continue your "normal" feeding schedule>
I have a brittle star, sand sifter star, various hermits, cleaner and peppermint
shrimp, sally lightfoot, colt, green star polyp and polyp
rock. Should I just add the phytoplankton?
<As above- I'd feed the same foods/quantities to the inverts tat you were
doing previously>
I know the critters have been scavenging when I feed the fish, so should I
continue to feed small amounts?
<Yep...I'd try to "target" the feedings to the "cleanup
crew"; as always, try to eliminate the possibility of excess food from
hanging around the tank! Don't forget to carry out all regularly scheduled
maintenance activities (water changes, media replacement, etc) during the
"fallow" period>
Thank you for your assistance, YET AGAIN!!!! Scott
<My pleasure! Hang in there! Regards, Scott F>
Feeding And Adding To A Growing Population
Thanks...how concerned should I be with uneaten frozen food and how long
should I leave it in the tank?
<Good question. First, when using frozen foods, I like to let the food thaw
out first in some cold water, then discard the water, and feed the food to the
fishes carefully with a toothpick or other implement. This way I can verify that
all of the food is being consumed. I strongly advise just dumping the food into
the tank, ice and all. These foods contain concentrated juices from the
manufacturing process, which can contribute to excess nutrients in your water
(phosphates, for one), which, in turn, can lead to nuisance algae growth.>
Also was thinking of 1 more fish for now...clownfish family or flame Hawkfish...thoughts
on this or a better suggestion?...thanks
<Well, there are literally thousands of possibilities here. I like small
fishes, such as blennies, gobies, and smaller wrasses! The Hawkfishes are fine,
as long as you don't intend to keep many small fishes, snails, hermit crabs,
etc. They tend to be predatory, so do keep this in mind. Clownfishes are fine,
too (no anemone needed). I tend to favor the smaller species, such as the ocellaris
and percula varieties, myself...Take a good look at the many articles
and FAQs on fishes and fish selection available on the WWM site. Take your time,
have fun, and choose your fishes carefully. Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Frozen Food Preparation 2/11/03
WW Crew,
<Howdy partner>
Thanks for all the support/advice you give us wanna-be conscientious
aquarists.
<our great pleasure, and in the same boat as you <G>>
I would appreciate an explanation of how you strain, or otherwise, prepare
commercial frozen foods before feeding. I understand that the
"pack juices" should not be added to the aquarium but am unsure of a
good technique to remove same.
Respectfully, Barry
<good question, my friend. The pack juice from thawed frozen foods allowed
into the aquarium is a significant source of nutrients and potential pollution.
Although usable and nutritive to sponges, fanworms and other filter feeders...
most aquariums have more than enough dissolved organics already to feed such
creatures. This juice from daily or several times weekly feedings is an even
bigger cause of nuisance alga than trace contaminants in source water IMO. For
whole prey foods (krill, plankton, mysids, etc) simply thaw the frozen portion
of meat in cold water (never warm water aquarium or tap as this denatures food
value... no room temperature either for the same reason). After it is thawed
sufficiently, simply strain the meat through an aquarium net, bit of cheese
cloth or one of those handy little tea strainers. You can even squeeze a little
of the juice out. I've seen Japanese's aquarists that feed frozen food heavily
actually take it a step further and aerate their portion of food in cold water
for more than an hour to strip proteins very efficiently... this is only
necessary with extremely heavy feedings though. Gelatin based foods cannot be
treated this way... of course, gelatin based foods are also catch-22 and
arguably not the best fare either. Best regards, Anthony>
Polluted Lion Food?
Hey Crew, love your work,
<Greetings, JasonC here...>
Just a quick one, I have just added two 4-5 inch Volitans ("Tezza"
and "Jonno") to my recently set-up (six week old) 150 Gallon saltwater
Tank, also housed are two yellow-tailed blue damsels and a small (5inch-ish)
black Angel of some description (Guy at the fish shop said it was a Black Angel
but I cant seem to find one in my book - anyway).
<Perhaps the Centropyge nox - more on that fish here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/centropyge2.htm
>
Filtration is an Eheim wet/dry (2229) for biological filtration and a small
Eheim canister for Mech/chemical filtration (2224), I also have 100lbs live rock
and am awaiting a Tunze 240/3 Skimmer from deep sea gallery (paid for).
Water parameters are Ammonia - Nil, Nitrite - 0.12 (and falling), Nitrates -
10ppm, SG - 1.022.
The question I have relates to feeding the boys (Lions), I have read here on
your site that you categorically dislike freshwater Feeders and so am looking at
alternatives.
I live near the ocean in the middle East and find it pretty easy to catch small
Minnow/silverside (I think) fry in tidal pools (just using a plastic shopping
bag left on the bottom).
I've fed them to the Boys and it was like Happy hour at the Pub , even the
Damsels got involved but I'm a bit worried as to possible pollutants carried by
the Minnows and getting passed onto the Lions, the Ocean water quality here is
not good (due to oil spillage and sewerage) and I was wondering if you thought
it may be a problem??, can it be tested for
contaminants?. <Well... one of the broader issues with feeders is gut
impaction from the skulls - so feeding any type of whole fish could be an issue.
Secondly - the pollution can for certain be a problem for your fish because of
what's called bioconcentration - the tendency for pollutants to be at their
highest level at the top of the food chain, which is where your fish would be.
If you know this water is not safe, I wouldn't feed your fish with stock from
it. Getting the water tested might prove costly, but it could be worth it for
peace of mind.>
Also what can I feed these Minnow fry so they get bigger as my Lions grow and
require larger Bite-sized Morsels??. <I would consider a trip to the seafood
market and obtain some squid, shrimp, prawns, and similar fare, cut into bite
sized chunks - this food will be similarly devoured as so many pints down at the
pub during happy hour.>
Thanks in advance, all you guys do a great job and show excellent Newbie
tolerance.
Karl.
<Cheers, J -- >
Re: Feeding Question
Hi Again,<Hey Bobbie! Phil here!>
Thanks for setting me straight on my last question. Perhaps, I should
look around for a better LFS. Based on your reply, I plan to get some
Sweetwater Zooplankton for my green hairy mushroom and my
Firefish. Daily feeding, right?<Ya, once a day w/ a varied
diet.> I'm also going to track down some Nori and
algae tablets for my yellow tang. Is this alright for daily
use?<Yes, but include some (not a lot) of meaty foods.> Can I
feed the tang the same pellets as the Clarkiis?<You can try some... but
remember the Nori!> Got some frozen Mysid for twice a week for
all.<Good choice!!> Am I doing better?<You have a good
feeding plan! You are going to have VERY happy fish!!>
Thanks again for helping.<No problem!! Phil>
Bobbie
Feeding Corals and clams that feed by absorption
Nitrate solution???? Something like Barium Nitrate?
<sodium nitrate actually, bud. And done so in aquariums with limited (or
zero) nitrate. Yes... nitrate is bad if excessive... but zero is bad too. Many
of our reef invertebrates need a direct source of nitrogen>
Again, what would the regimen be?
<p 323 of the Book of Coral Propagation says <G> Heehee... [just
shameless]: citing Knop...1 gram of sodium nitrate per 1000ml distilled water to
make a stock solution. From the stock solution, dose 10ml per 100 L of aquarium
water incrementally to maintain a nitrate level under 2 mg/L >
Darrell
<ciao, bub. Anthony>
Feeding Corals and Clams Ammonium
Anthony- What sort of regimen would you advise I use if I began using
ammonium chloride?
<I personally like using nitrate better... no idea of ammonium is better
though>
Is there any ay to test the level present in the tank?
<not as easy as nitrate <G>.>
Darrell
<Anthony>
Reef feeding question (copper as an ingredient in foods)
I have a 120 gallon reef system and have been feeding primarily frozen
Formula One for some time. All species of fish in my tank have done
very
well on the Formula One. I recently purchased a new batch and noticed
on
the label that one of the trace elements listed in the ingredients is copper
sulfate. Should I be concerned about copper buildup in the
system? I've
trusted the reputation of Formula One and am not sure what other frozen
options should be considered. What would you recommend?
<No problem. The copper amount is of no consequence here. You won't be able
to measure it>
I appreciate all the help and good advice I find in your forums every week.
<Ah, good. Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
Thanks,
Scott
Tetra's Antiparasitic Food
Hi Craig please. Bet you are sorry that you mentioned you had a
source for the Tetra medicated Antiparasitic food! I have searched to
no avail. Please tell me and the other thousand people reading this
your secret. Do you recommend using this food while the fish are
still in quarantine? Thanks
<No problem! Yes, I used it while in QT and afterward until those last few
spots were history. I like it for the time after moving out of the QT which is
stressful and can cause another outbreak. Seachem also makes a
Metronidazole product for soaking your own food. To get Tetra medicated food
call Bill at Aquarium Warehouse in Olympia, Washington. His number is
(360)357-9654.
Tell him I sent you. Let me know if you need more assistance! You can get the
SeaChem product from our WetWebMedia.com sponsors. Craig>
Anything For HUFA's!
Couldn’t find Selcon in my LFS, however, I picked up a couple of Omega
fatty acids from my mom’s health cabinet. She has everything.
<So you can make a papaya/avocado/cod-liver oil/Spirulina smoothie? Dude-
what's your home address...? :) >
I already have Boyd’s Vita Chem and I’d like to add Omega 3/Omega 6 fish oil
to it. I just don’t know how much. The gel cap has about
900mg. and the total bottle volume is 4 ounces.
<I'm afraid that your going to have to experiment with that stuff to get the
correct amount. I have friends who do this kind of thing themselves with much
apparent success. Obviously, It will be easier if you're preparing a larger
batch of this stuff...>
I picked up some garlic oil capsules too. What do you think?
<Well, in principle, it sounds good. I'm sure that there is no harm in trying
this DIY recipe. Go for it! On the other hand, you can get Selcon from a number
of internet-based suppliers (such as our sponsors, here) for a reasonable cost,
so if this experiment fails-you can always buy it online! Good luck! Regards,
Scott F>
- Do silversides have silver linings? -
<Good morning, JasonC here...>
Where can I get silversides? <Should be able to find them at a decent fish
store... as frozen food. If you do locate them, consider getting some other
frozen items like shrimp, squid, and similar items as it's very important to
offer this fish a balanced diet.> It's why I went with the smelts cause I
couldn't find any...pet stores that carry them? <Yes... some do.> Bait
stores etc where?
thanks
Trisha
<Cheers, J -- >
Feeding intervals
here I am reading an article on reefs.org about hair algae and the author
writes this..."Another thing to do is to check out your skimmer. It should
first of all be big enough for the tank, and secondly, it should be pulling
out a really dry foam.; This will help to get out some things before they can
break down and cause problems. Also cut down on overfeeding. You should only
feed about twice a week. Kalkwasser will help too. You should dose that stuff
every other night, and mix it fresh every other time (actually, every time
would be better).".....the part of question is the twice a week feeding
bit, little generalized, in my ongoing battle with hair algae I assume I don't
overfeed, marine flakes (HBH, Ocean Nutrition and "rich mix" for
something
diff.) a couple times a day (very small amounts that the fish immediately
consume), as well as blood worms at the end of the day (or brine shrimp, I know
of no value), some raw tiger shrimp every few days, few pieces of freeze dried
krill here and there (lately), is this overfeeding?. with testing all else I'm
still researching the solution, with my fish (if you remember, should I cut
back as this article suggests?...thanks......Riot....
<Do agree with the overgeneralization of the quoted statement. My opinions on
the topic can be read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/feeding.htm
Bob Fenner>
Proper Diet
Hello again to the Crew....
I know there is something wrong with the diet I am feeding and probably with the
water quality. But after reading the FAQ's I feel like I should buy
twenty different foods and supplements... and I doubt that would be the correct
thing to do.
The Particulars:
Tank: 29G, Eheim 2233, CPR BakPak2, 22W fluorescent, and a
power-head. No LS or LR yet. Substrate is 2 inches of
mixed gravel and crushed coral. System established and upgraded over
the last 4 months. Ammonia 0, Nitrite 0, Nitrate 5ppm, Phosphate
0.2ppm, PH 8.3.
Inhabitants: 4 turbo snails, 2 three stripe damsels, 1 true percula clown, 1
cleaner shrimp.
Current issues: One of the damsels has been pecking on the scant
amount of algae in the tank - then today I finally recognized that it is
developing HLLE. The snails originally came home with dark green
coloration on the shells - after two months one has expired, two have shells
that are now white and they have both become inactive.
Q1: What diet should I be feeding? Currently feeding
frozen brine, tropical flake food, and pellet food.
<I would recommend a more natural approach to your fishkeeping, starting with
your substrate, (I recommend deep sand beds of aragonite sand), filtration (I
prefer live rock and sand) and lighting (22 watts is not sufficient to maintain
the algae needed by the snails, fish, for food.) The best foods are those most
resembling natural foods. Many of these come frozen. Brine shrimp is useless as
a fish food, like white bread without the bread. Try replacing them with Mysis
Shrimp. There are some good natural food recipes available on-line and in
several of the books out there. I would also recommend some of the live
macroalgae like Caulerpa for your grazers.>
Q2: What vitamin additives would you recommend?
<Most people use and recommend Selcon.>
Q3: What in the water or lighting quality (lack of) would be
affecting my snails?
<I don't know about your alkalinity, calcium, etc. but snails require these
to be in the normal range and enough light to grow algae, their main food
source. Your coarse substrate is also a trap for wastes and detritus that will
drive your nitrates higher and higher, not good for snails. I would resolve the
substrate issue by removing the old substrate and addition of live sand in
sufficient depth. 1" is fine, but please see Live sand at
WetWebMedia.com. for more info.>
Q4: What other water parameters should I be monitoring?
<It is advisable to monitor ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, phosphates, pH,
calcium, alkalinity to start.>
Q5: Which would be the first recommended change to the setup: A) add
some LR or B) change the substrate to 1 in of Aragonite?
<I would do this in combination, some rock and some sand (live from your
local fish store tanks. It is best if the LFS tanks contains no fish (avoid ick,
etc.) so the rock and sand has no or few parasite cysts, eggs, etc. Purchase
live CURED live rock with as much life on it as possible. This will help with
your "grazing" fish. Once you have enough LR and LS, I would removing
the media from the Eheim, and run it with carbon on occasion.>
Sorry, I didn't realize I was struggling with 5 different questions until I
composed this email. Thank you again for your help and advice.
<Perhaps surf over to WetWebMedia.com and check-out the marine set-ups pages
and sort through some of the more natural approaches to fish husbandry, I think
they will help. Craig>
Pellet food
Hello crew, may I wish all you guys a happy new year,
<Cheers, Paul>
I certainly hope that you all had a good xmas break and if your like me you
should all be on a diet by now and thinking about exercising strenuously,
<Ughh... don't remind me... I gained 12 pounds over the holiday and am
debating whether I want to diet or just buy new clothes <G>>
(but what the hell, he say's as he pours another cold Guinness).
<<ooh, that does sound good. New clothes it is then>
Anyway my question is this: I want to buy some small pellet Vibra-Gro food, I have heard that its really quite good,
<it is fantastic food! Very high quality and vitamin rich for being extruded
at lower temps than most baked pellets and flakes>
but like all things in life that are really that good I can't buy it over here
in good old Blighty, do you know of any on line shops in the US who would post
to me without charging an arm and three legs in additional costs because they've
got to walk 200 hundred yards to the post office.
<hmmm... there are many possibilities, but are you quite sure it is not
distributed in the UK? (The manufacturer is BioAquatics). I'd be very surprised
if not. Do contact a friend of mine in England named Tim Hayes of Midland Reefs.
He is the distributor of my books, a fine aquarist and man in the know. E-mail
at midlandreefs@inverts.demon.co.uk
If that doesn't pan out for you, do try www.marinedepot.com or
www.customaquatic.com >
As always your response will be treated with the utmost gratitude and this email
will definitely self destruct in 5 seconds (Jim) or is it Anthony, anyway I've
just finished my Guinness so everything is kind of m-e-l-l-o-w. Paul,
Manchester, England
<best regards, mate. Anthony>
Re: Growing out Juvenile Fish
Howdy,
Tim here from Fiji (not sure who I am saying hi to?)
<Hey Tim, it's Bob (Anthony didn't cut in on my mail this time!)>
FYI for some time now I have been working towards growing
out Tiny Perc’s and Blue Tangs in our warehouse , which are available in
very high numbers during the season. My goal is to have stock all year around,
collecting during a brief season/period, and to discontinue purchasing Adult
fish.
<A worthy goal>
The goal is have operators/collectors leaving the adults in the ocean, and
collecting for a short period only while the Juveniles are in high numbers
-which should aid the ecosystem. A % will also be released back to the Ocean.
<Wow>
For the hobbyist-they will have a fish we know is healthy, eating artificial
food and used to an artificial environment. Shipping mortality will be reduced
…… more importantly I believe will be the reduction in losses that occur at
the retail /hobbyist stage 1-2 weeks after capture of the organism.
<Win, win, win all the way around>
Its our first steps towards serious post larval recruitment, and breeding
programs -small but significant .
<Yes. Am sure you know of the French Polynesia post-settling larval fish
operations of the last few years>
I am now able to produce saleable fish with low losses and grow them out in
reasonably high stocking density’s . We have now grown out around 2,000 Blue
Tangs, and 100 Perc’s. We currently have 500 Perc’s 6 weeks into what should
be a 4 month grow out program , and they look very good.
The question Can you look at what we feed
them, and give some advice on getting the right nutrition cost effectively into
them please.
Currently we feed 5 times/day
Blue Tangs Nori , local Macro-algae (yet to
find one they really like ) and some fish flakes.
<Do bolster this with some meaty/blended foods... can be gelatin
stuck-together>
Perc’s Alternating
between Fish flakes, Brine Shrimp-dried or grown out on Micro algae from our
lab, and a blended concoction based on Bob’s recipe of:-
Fresh
Fish
Fresh
Macro Algae (Gracilaria sp. and others)
Fresh
Clams
Gelatin (Davis)
Multivitamins
(Neovita fortified syrup ) and Vitamin B1.
<Yum!>
Its time to go more commercial/cost effective … ..so let me have your
thoughts.
<Mmm, what you have is fine... so much the better if it can be delivered
several times daily in small increments. I would offer some of the gelatin food
listed to your Tangs as well. Bob Fenner>
Thanks Tim
Re: Growing out Juvenile Fish
Thanks Bob,
Yes...the Polynesia post-settling larval fish operation has had my
attention for some time now. I liked everything about getting involved
with it...other than the US$50K he wanted for information (I think he
was going to throw in a bonus plankton net though)
<Oh boy. Have heard their help was steep. Yikes>
All the best...and as our new South African Manageress keeps telling
me......stay well.
<Will do. Hello to Flower and the children. Hope to see you soon. Bob
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