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FAQs on Harlequin Tuskfish, Choerodon fasciata, Compatibility
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Cheilinus fasciatus and Choerodon fasciatus 2/11/09
Hallo, <And you> I found some very useful information from both
the Cheilinus fasciatus as well as the Choerodon fasciatus, but I still
have one question found unanswered. Is it possible to keep both
species in one aquarium? <Mmm, I give one good odds if there's
sufficient room> Do people have experience with a Cheilinus fasciatus
and a Choerodon fasciatus in the same tank? <I have never encountered
this> Or are there problems to be expected when you put them
together? <Again... if hundreds of gallons, likely not> I hope you
can give me an answer and sorry for my poor English. Marjan Hofmans
The Netherlands <Bob Fenner, California>
Fairy Wrasse & Harlequin Tusk Fish/Compatibility 1/29/09
Good evening, <Good morning, Dave.> Wow, it's been over a year
since I emailed you... guess things are going pretty good with my tanks.
<Great.> In any event, I noticed over the past few months that my
fairy wrasse was getting a bit nippy with his tank mates (two false
percula clowns and a yellow headed Jawfish in particular). About a week
ago, I was spared the frustration of trying to catch this speedy wrasse
as he was in my overflow tank. I scooped him out and put him in my
quarantine tank to rest/recover. A little over a week is up now and
I figured my much larger fish system would be a more suitable place for
him. <OK> My 200g tank inhabitants are as follows: Harlequin
Tusk fish Magnificent Foxface Snowflake Moray Eel Juvenile
Yellow Tang Juvenile Emperor Angel 5 small yellow-tailed blue
damsels 225lbs of liverock with a deep sand bed. The fairy wrasse
was introduced two days ago and stayed hidden. Tonight I found him on
top of some egg-crating that covers my center overflow. I have a high
flow rate pump that keeps the water level a good inch above the
overflow. The wrasse was breathing and looking around quite content
laying on his side on the eggcrating. I turned the pumps off and when
the water lowered he simply flipped his way back into the water and
casually swam only to be aggressively chased by the Tusk fish for a few
seconds. The wrasse is now back in hiding. The fairy wrasse can clearly
out maneuver and hide from the Tusk fish. <Oh yes.> Do you figure
the fairy wrasse is in real danger here? Or do you figure this is simply
an initiation of sorts? I've never seen my Tusk fish aggressive towards
anything else before. <Thinking the Tusk Fish is just showing his
muscle, they are rather peaceful but I wouldn't trust them with small
gobies or blennies. Peace should be restored, give it a few days. You
may want to read here on the Tusk Fish.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/choerodon/faciata.htm
James (Salty Dog)> Dave
Re: Fairy Wrasse & Tuskfish/Compatibility 1/31/09 Hmm, it
didn't work out so well for the wrasse. I found the wrasse laying on the
sandbed at the front of the tank. Most of his dorsal fin shredded and
his scales ripped from the side of his body. I scooped him up and put
him in my quarantine tank. He was pretty docile/not moving yesterday.
Today, he's swimming around and feeding. His wounds look BAD... REAL
BAD, but I'm giving him greater than 50% success rate. I once nursed a
Royal Dottyback to health after a large yellow tang sliced him from head
to tail. <Hopefully you will have the same luck with the wrasse.>
Bad Tuskfish! <Yep, and thank you for sharing with us. James (Salty
Dog)>
Harlequin Tusk... comp. – 10/13/07 Hello, I have a 120cm
(length) x 47.5cm (wide) x 55cm (height) reef tank <<Mmm, okay…about
120-gallons US>> with a 3 inches Mystery Wrasse and a 3.5 inches
Labouti Fairy wrasse. <<Exquisite fishes>> I would like to add a
Harlequin Tusk into my tank. <<A healthy specimen would be a
wonderful addition here I think>> Do you think it will be suitable
for my tank size to have this magnificent fish? <<I do>> And will
it be a suitable tankmates for my other fishes? <<Yes…Their
name/appearance belies a quite gentle demeanor…as long as you’re not a
tasty shrimp/snail/small crab/etc... Do be sure to provide plenty of
structure/caves for this shy species. And do please read here!
(http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/choerodon/faciata.htm)>>
Thank you. Sincerely, Ferdinand <<Happy to assist. EricR>>
Frogfish tank, Harlequin comp. mostly 6/20/07 Dear
Wet Web Media <Part of it> After following your advice in regards
to upgrading a frogfish tank, I have selected some candidates, however i
have a question about one. I would like to stock a 450 litre tank with a
Calloplesiops altivelis, my Antennarius hispidus and the other fish i
would like to stock is Lienardella fasciata the Harlequin Tusk. I intend
to have a stack of live rock on the left hand side of the tank with
coral such as Sinularia, Ricordea, Goniopora, <... needs to be "on
the bottom", and this genus is not easily kept... all polyps need to be
fed... I'd be reading re> xenia and have the right hand side just
sand with a open brain and Fungia plate corals on the substrate. My
question is would the tusk given this large amount of space still knock
over the corals stacked on the other side of the tank. <Mmm, not
likely if these were placed securely> I have read many contradicting
articles on reef suitability in regards to knocking things but as my
tank would be fairly open would this be such an issue. <Mmm, no...
but will need more room in time> The other question is that i feed my
frogfish sprats or silversides with an acrylic feeding pole, Is the
Harlequin likely to steel the fish on the pole before i can feed the
frogfish, again reading many confusing articles describing the harlequin
as shy compared to most of the wrasses and selective in feeding ranging
to greedy. <This is a possibility... but likely of small concern...
you can/should feed the Tusk first...> Best Regards and thanks fo the
help Ben <And to you, Bob Fenner>
Yellow Tang vs. Tusk Fish 5/24/07
Morning all, I realize I probably write longer and longer emails the
more and more I learn... so maybe I should summarize my latest book
for you :) <Please do> 200gallon tank with plenty of
circulation and 210lbs of caves, tunnels, hiding spots in my Tonga
rock with a 3" fine sandbed. Snowflake Eel ~ about 18" ~ first
fish added, he doesn't mess with anyone and no one messes with him
Yellow Tang and Foxface ~ both about 4"~ the best of friends with
the Foxface the second fish added and the Tang the 3rd fish added.
<Likely "believe" they're the same species> Royal Dottyback ~
about 3" ~ had him for years but got moved to this tank from my
90gallon tank because he became too territorial for it He is more
or less the longer, he might try to exert some attitude no and then
but it is quickly put in check by anything he bothers. Nobody seems
to initiate aggression towards him 2 Bannerfish ~ about 4 & 5" ~
introduced two weeks ago after 2 week quarantine... as retailer had
both of them for 2 - 5 weeks prior. Hangout together and leave
everything in the tank alone, but are often chased by the Tang.
<Not likely a problem in this sized system> Harlequin Tuskfish ~
about 4" ~ quarantined for 4 weeks and just added to my tank on
Saturday. He's pretty peaceful and leaves everything alone... seems
to hangout with the Bannerfish mostly. Anyhow, the Tang seems to
exert some aggression towards the Tusk. <Habitat/resource
partitioning... would have been better for the Zebrasoma to go in
after...> I've watched pretty closely, and it seems mostly
like charges and turning away at the last moment. However, I saw
for the first time the tang trying to back into the Tusk in a corner
with it's white barbs sticking out. <Mmmm> Of note, I have
increased my feeding sizes and frequencies so there is definitely no
shortage of food. I also keep two feeder clips daily to which the
Foxface, Tang, and Bannerfish will feed at leisure in what appears
to be harmony. It seems like the Tang only gets the attitude when
he's cruising around the tank. <Yes... typical> I was
thinking if anything, the Bannerfish of a similar size and shape
would be of concern... <Mmm, no... they don't "compete" with the
Tang for the rocks... unlike the Choerodon> but it seems like
over the past two weeks the Tang is certainly more accepting of
them. <Also as usual> On a scale of 1-10, I'd say the
aggression seemed to be about a 6 on introduction... and about a 2
now. With respect to the Tuskfish, about a 6 now... however perhaps
the Tuskfish seems a little more afraid as he stays to one end of
the tank mostly. The Tuskfish does have his own set of weaponry
that he will use if the Tang becomes to aggressive, correct????
<Oh yes> In short, should I be concerned about them?
<Concerned? Yes... but not overly so... I give you good odds all
that you list will settle in fine here> I'd figure that it would
take a few weeks and then all should be well... but the Tang
cornering the Tuskfish and trying to back into him with the barbs
out had me concerned. Oh look, one page... a new record for me.
David Brynlund <Heeeee! You and I should NOT go shopping at
CostCo together... Unless we bring the truck or van to haul our buys
away! Bob Fenner> |
Re: Yellow Tang vs. Tusk Fish 5/24/07
I'm not a shopper unless you turn me loose in an Aquarium
Retailer or BestBuy! <Heeeee!> On another note, in
this 200g system I have 3 sand stars. One of your staff warned
me about the inappropriateness of sand stars in my setup.
Realistically, I have 8sqft of open sand at a depth of 3". The
rest is rock covered... <Mmm, "so many foxes, so many
hens..."> The comment posed to me was that a single sand
star should have 9sqft of sand at a depth of at least
8". Therefore my system would hardly even sustain one sand
star, and I have 3. Is it that I am harming my sand stars?
Or are the sand stars harming my tankbio? <More the latter
here> Meaning, consuming all the nutrients that would
normally increase the microlife? <More like consuming the
micro-life, the in-fauna itself> Ok, I'm no science guy
here.... <Mmm, yes you are...> So my terminology is
probably way off. Do you understand my question? <I think
so... ergo I am! Said Popeye the Sailorman, toot toot!> I'm
wondering if I should simply keep them? Or if I should take them
back to the store. <Up to you...> I've had them for a
few years. I'm thinking if they go back to the store they will
likely end up in an even smaller tank with someone who knew less
than what I did? Thoughts? David Brynlund <Always keep
beer in a cool, dark place. Be chatting... and drinking! BobF> |
Tusk Vs. Tang – 05/08/07 Hi, <Hello.> I have just
introduced a 6" Australian harlequin Tuskfish into my 400 litre Juwel
aquarium, and my slightly larger regal tang has gone crazy, I have
noticed a few scratches on the side of the Tuskfish which i <I> am sure
the tang has caused with his spines. Should I remove the tang?, or
will he calm down eventually? <If you can remove he tang, I would
consider putting him your QT tank for a week or two while the tusk
adjusts. Maybe rearrange the rock-work a little too.> The Tuskfish
has the best colouring, of any Tuskfish I have ever seen, and I would
rather take my tang back to my LFS than put it at risk. <If the
aggression warrants removal then do so.> Thanks <Welcome, Adam
J.> Re: Tusk eating sea stars – 5/4/07 I just happen
to be reading through your web pages as I do when something
arises....(Thanks for the great advice) when I read this : Q. Will
harlequin tusk eat starfish and serpent stars? if no, Any chances of HT
hurting the stars and serpents? <The chances are very low to
non-existent that a tusk would harm a sea star.> <Cheers, J -- >
I thought I would add some of my experience here. I have had a
Harlequin tusk for around 4 years (and still do). He started out in my
reef along with a snowflake eel, these two had a love/hate relationship
from the start. The tusk would try to block the eel from moving out of
the rock work often locking himself upside-down between two rocks. They
really had a funny relationship. Anyway, I am writing
because I also had two serpent seastars which after a short while were
ripped out from under the rock work and eaten by the tusk. This was a
mature tusk around 7" in length. I guess anything is possible, but I
haven't put another one in his home agian. I eventually removed the eel
from the reef due to nutrient issues. He now has his own home among the
tong branch. Thanks again for the great website. Mike <Thank
you for this Mike. BobF, looking through all else's in-folders>
Harlequin Tusk and Pencil Urchin 3/26/07 Hi Crew!
I'd be lost without you! Long before making any purchase for my tanks I
always research it on your site, and trust me, its saved many a fish,
etc. <A pleasure to realize how we've helped you help your
livestock> I've been searching for several days now, and can't find
the answer to my question. I'm interested in getting a Harlequin
Tuskfish. I understand he will likely eat my hermits (although they're
pretty big) and will probably leave my Chocolate Chip Stars alone.
<Mmm, yes... though it might sample these barely motile invertebrates as
well> What I can't find out is if he'll sample my pencil urchins
(Eucidaris tribuloides)? <Possibly as well, yes... Though if started
as a small specimen, fed on a regular mix of foods, much less
likelihood> I have a male/female pair (they spawned
once--freaked me out, until I realized they weren't having fits) and
have become rather attached to them. <Ahh!> And while I have
your attention--would a serpent star or a brittle star just be an
expensive treat for my Lionfish and/or Snowflake Moray?
<Not likely... a very small possibility> They both gobble up squid
tentacles like candy and I'm afraid they might mistake a serpent star in
particular for this? What do you think? The lionfish was sold as a
"Black Volitans" but he better resembles a Pterois russelli, if that
makes a difference. Thanks so much, BC. <Welcome. Bob
Fenner> Cleanup crew and triggers/tusk 3/20/07 Hello
crew and thanks again for all of the great information.
<Greetings, to you! Thank you and you're welcome.> I have a 125
gallon FOWLR that contains 90lbs live rock with an assasi trigger, niger
trigger, Tuskfish, flame angel and a Kole tang. <I'm
hoping these are all small specimens? This will likely result in
elevated stress levels in the future...> I would like to place a few
crabs (emerald & hermits) and maybe a shrimp or two that I expect will
be consumed eventually, <Yup, but sometimes not. Have to wait and
see.> but I am OK with that although I am not sure of the
consequences in terms of fish aggression. I have read a few FAQs and
other information that indicates this could elevate the aggression in
the tank. <Anytime your fish are eating food that they
catch & kill, you can expect them to have a slightly higher than
otherwise "mean-streak" due to the stimulation of their predator drive.
This is less common with the chance ingestion of a crab or shrimp as
say, if you were to regularly supplement their diet with live foods.
That is not to say, however, that you shouldn't expect that once one has
eaten one of your crustaceans, they won't have acquired a taste for it.>
Is there any merit to this or something else I should be considering.
<You chose some fish that have a natural tendency for live foods,
especially of the variety you have in mind. Crabs are little snacks for
triggers, and the Tuskfish is no stranger to investigating if something
soft lies within the shell of the nearest crustacean either. This is
something you are no doubt aware of, and hopefully were before you
decided to keep these species together. If you know this going in, then
plan as best you can to keep the little shelled-buddies alive as long as
possible by introducing them after feeding and lights-out. Good luck
with that (Personality is always the determining factor here).
-GrahamT> Thanks again. Compatibility for Harlequin Tusk
Hello <Hey Paul, JustinN with you on this fine day.> I am
presently setting up a 120 gallon FOWLR tank. <Ok> When the tank
is ready I intend to add ; One Harlequin Tusk and three Henochius
<Heniochus>. <Sounds like you've got a game plan, very good.>
Understanding that the least aggressive enters first which one of the
fish mentioned would that be, seeing as they are both pretty calm?
<I would allow the Heniochus sp. to establish first, and add the wrasse
last.> Secondly: I understand that it takes several hours to
acclimatize a Harlequin, would you tell me 'specifically' how this is
done? <Outlined and posted on WWM already, see here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/acclimat.htm > Third (and last) I
also understand that a Harlequin will not eat crustaceans that are
already in the tank, but will eat those that are added (thinking they
are food) is this correct? <No, the wrasse will likely make meals
out of any crustaceans it can lay its cool blue teeth on!> Kindest
Regards Paul <Any time, Paul. Hope I've helped you! -JustinN>
Harlequin Tuskfish Tankmates 7/10/06 Hi guys, <One of the
gals here…..Leslie with you this afternoon> My question is about an
Aussie tusk. <One of my favorite fish!> I have a 125g, 55g sump,
140lb LR,ev400 skimmer. Livestock includes a 5" Map puffer, and a 2"
dragon wrasse. Will the tusk be threatened by either of these fish?
<Should be fine.> Will the tusk be ok in the long run? <Yes, I
would think so.> A larger tank is in the works (300G) as I am
prepared to give these fish a healthy environment as they grow and
mature. <That is very good to hear!> Thanx, extremely helpful
site! Marc, Folsom, Ca <Glad to be of service, Leslie.>
Compatibility...Tusk Fish And Red Coris Wrasse 7/3/06
Dear WWM crew I hope all is going well! <Not bad.> I have a few
dilemmas I am trying to solve and would like your opinion. I really
enjoy your website by the way. <Thank you.> First question, I
have a 90 gallon saltwater aggressive tank. The inhabitants at the
current moment are a Volitans Lionfish and a Australian Harlequin Tusk
fish (Choerodon (Lienardella) fasciata) I was wondering if my
favorite Red coris (Coris gaimard). I am not real worried about the
harlequin being a bully because he is easily bullied by others (I'd
be willing to bet any fish that has a need to bully another fish would
be capable of bullying my harlequin (Haven't discovered a good bite
with those big blue teeth would stop bullying immediately) But I was
wandering if the harlequin would be OK with a wrasse in his tank?
<Should be fine.> Question number two, I have been debating putting
corals in the tank. I love the reef but I love the angels. What do you
think is a better fit? <This choice is yours to make. The Red Coris
is not reef compatible. Your inhabitants will outgrow the 90 gallon
tank and I would not be thinking of adding more fish such as the angels
you mention. The Red Coris, under aquarium conditions can grow 6 to
8". Specimens in nature can exceed one foot. Lionfish can attain a
length of one foot with the Tuskfish reaching 10 inches.> Thank
you for you time and opinions <You're welcome. James (Salty Dog)>
Your enthused saltwater hobbyist Josh Schiff
Harlequin
Tuskfish/Feeding/Compatibility 6/5/06 Hello Crew!
<Hello Wayne> Thanks for the great site! I don't know what I'd do
without you folks! <You're welcome> I have a few feeding
questions. I am currently feeding my Volitans Lion (8 in), and my
snowflake eel (10 in), raw/thawed shrimp, scallops, and occasional
flounder. They are soaked in Kent Zoe for 1.5 hrs prior to being
frozen. I feed them both every other day. We've had the Lion for
about 8 months now. He's grown about 10% (maybe an inch) during that
time. My questions: Is this growth rate normal?
<Hard to say, much depends on nutrition, water quality, tank size, etc>
(we're hoping he'd grow faster) Is it ok to feed him daily, instead
of every other day? <I think every other day is a little much for
the lionfish. Twice weekly would suffice.> and will he grow faster
if we feed him daily? <More than likely, I do, but I'm not getting
any taller, just wider.> I have a Harlequin Tuskfish on the way.
I plan to feed him the same foods as the Eel and Lionfish. <Would be
fine.> I plan to feed him 2 times per day. Does this sound
ok? Is there anything else I should be feeding the Tuskfish? <What
you mentioned is fine. Keep in mind, the Tuskfish will eat any small
crustaceans present in your tank. They use those tusks very
efficiently. Do search for info on the Wet Web before writing. The
information you requested is easily found on our site.> Thanks for
everything! You guys/gals are great! <You're welcome, again. James
(Salty Dog)> Wayne Cat Shark...Other Stocking Question -
03/16/06 Crew, <<Eric>> I appreciate your input.
<<My pleasure>> I am going to leave the shark out of the mix.
<<You will both likely be happier for this.>> It will get a little
too big for my tank I think. <<Me too>> Now I think I will plan
on a few tangs, a queen angel (my wife loves this fish), a couple of
pygmy angels, 5 to 7 green chromis, and a harlequin tusk. My new
question is on the harlequin tusk. I am not very familiar with this
fish and I have read differing opinions on compatibility, with some
material indicating the tusk will eat small fish and others saying it's
safe. Can green chromis and other small fish (clowns) be safely kept
with a tusk? <<In my experience/estimation, yes.>> Thanks
again!!! Eric Skikiewicz <<Quite welcome, EricR>>
Tusk Fish + Crustaceans (Shrimp) = Lunch for the Tusk 12/7/05
Hi guys, you have been a tremendous help to me in the past and I credit
the long living fish in my (FOWLER) tank partially to your guidance. I'm
looking to add a Tuskfish to my community (2 true perculas, bi color
angel, 4 small engineer gobies). <The tusk fish is in a different
“class” than these potential tankmates. While the tusk is generally
docile is does possess the armory to put these guys through some
stress.> I have a prized 4 year old bull's-eye pistol shrimp who is
about 5 inches long. I had previously put a flame angel into my tank and
he proceeded to gobble up a king's ransom in cleaner shrimp. He was
however unable to get to the pistol because of his subterranean refuge
and snapping appendage. I’m wondering if this shrimp has what it takes
to fend off the predators more so than other shrimps do. Currently my
pistol shrimp has taken residence inside a huge piece of live rock in
the tank. What do you guys think? Is the pistol shrimp more apt to
survive with such a predator? <I have seen a Harlequin Tusk crack
through the shell of a Tridacnid Clam, if it’s large enough and able to
catch the shrimp…it will. Crustaceans and bivalve are the natural dies
to of this specimen. If your attached to the shrimp I would not add the
tusk fish.> Thanks in advance. <Welcome, Adam J.>
Cleanup Crew or Snack Item? 10/17/05 Hello, <Hi there! Scott
F. here today!> What can I use for a "cleaning crew" in a tank that
houses a Harlequin Tusk? I know all crustaceans are out, but how about
snails? Thanks! <As a wrasse fan, I can empathize with you! Snails
are a potential snack, as well. I'd recommend the old siphon and a
little bit of elbow grease...Good luck! Regards, Scott F.>
Harlequin Tuskfish... charging behavior 8/23/05 Hi Bob, I just
bought my first Harlequin. No problems. but sometimes he will open his
mouth like a lion and swim like crazy to the top of the tank. He will
do it over and over in the same spot. It looks very strange. What do
you think? Thanks Rod. <Mmm, could be a few things... best guess,
that this fish is "acting out"... challenging real or imagined (even
you) other organisms, establishing its "place"... But could be resultant
from an injury (most Choerodon are caught hook and line), that hopefully
will heal. Bob Fenner> Re: Harlequin Tuskfish Thanks Bob,
He is settling down more ever day. <Ah, good. BobF>
Compatibility Issues, 5/16/05 I am looking to get a Harlequin
tusk and miniatus grouper. Are these two fish able to be kept in the
same system without fighting? Tank is only 100G <No, a grouper is a
bad choice for this size tank. You'd need to cram the tank full of live
rock just to filter water behind this eating machine- But then where
would the fish swim?> Also question about groupers Which one would be
the best to get with a harlequin tusk: Miniatus Grouper Red V-Tail
Grouper Which one is better for hardiness, adult size, and disease?
Getting the tusk for sure but can't decided between these 2 groupers.
<The tusk will need to be small, and he'll get more aggressive as he
matures. I would suggest a Kole Tang as a tankmate, or a small school of
something innocuous. Good luck, Ryan> Copperband butterfly,
tusk & pinecone. Hi Bob/Jason C, <<And hello to you.>> All is
going excellent with my tank and the tusk. Pinecone still does not want
to eat, at least I never saw him eating but the live feeder shrimp and
fish and being reduced everyday. I am assuming that the pinecone is
eating them. The only other fish in that 55qt tank is a female maroon
clown and should not be able to eat 8 feeder shrimp and 10 feeder live
fish. Right ? <<I wouldn't think so.>> Pinecone is not going to be
placed in the main tank (reef) for at least another 2 weeks per your
advise in other posts and mine that I read always. Main tank (150G
with 150lb LR) has 4 damsels, a lot of corals and tusk. I saw a nice
copperband butterfly and am interested in this beauty. Is he reef safe.
<<They "can be" but are also known to perish for lack of proper food.>>
I have brains, polyps, mushrooms, elegance, gorgonians, leathers,
flowerpot, torch, feather dusters, finger corals, red chili coral, pink
carnation and others like colt in the tank. <<You do know that the
carnation and flowerpot corals are almost impossible to keep in
captivity? Some people have limited success, and none without a specific
regimen dedicated to those particular species.>> I know he is difficult
to feed and needs proper acclimation and quarantine. Can he be placed in
a reef tank like mine with an Aussie tusk and pinecone? Tusk and
pinecone should not bother him but to what extent will be cause coral
destruction if any. Do you think it is safe to put him in a reef tank?
<<There is no way to guarantee something like this, but of all the
Butterflies available, the Copperband is one of the few that has a
decent "reef-safe" success rate.>> Will not proceed unless advised by
you. Many thanks, Razi Burney <<Cheers, J -- >>
Harlequin Tuskfish Aloha <<And aloha to you.>> I am
interested in the Harlequin Tuskfish but am getting some very diverse
opinions about tankmates/size of tank. <<Ok.>> I am about to purchase a
90 gal and will have it as a Fish Only tank without live rock. I would
to buy some but Hawaii cant do it. Any ways I want to put some of my
other fish in with him (niger trigger, Picasso trigger, Singapore angel,
flame hawk, flame angel, blue spot Toby). <<That would be a very full
tank - more loaded than I would prefer.>> Just was wondering who would
be the best to put in with him or should I just skip the Tusk and put
the other fish in the 90? <<Well, Harlequin Tuskfish can grow up to
about a foot or so, so a 90 isn't really going to make it in the long
term. These are pretty tough fish, but won't do well if over-crowded.>>
thanks and I love the CMA. Darren <<Cheers, J -- >>
Harlequin Tusk & Pinecone Fish Hi, Many thanks for as always
quick & professional advise. You guys are great and are helping me and
others a great deal. I am sure that several fish must be thankful too.
<<Glad to hear...>> I am thinking about adding a Pineapple/Pinecone
fish to my tank that already has tusk. I was unable to get the fish
family for pinecone/pineapple <<I think there are two that get imported
with any regularity, Monocentrus japonicus and Cleidopus gloriamaris.>>
and its compatibility on the web and from your database. Can you please
provide some info on this and advise if this is a good fish to have.
<<Bob rates these as a 3 on the 1 to 3 scale, 3 being 'poor to
non-survivor'.>> I have been told that he is a peaceful fish and is
easy to care for. <<Is true that these are peaceful, not so true about
their captive care... many problems with rough handling in capture,
transport to your LFS.>> Not sure about him till I hear from the tusk
expert as my tusk is the most important in my tank. Will not put the
pinecone in the tank if he is not a good choice. <<Well, certainly this
would be a fine tankmate for the tusk... but, you may find yourself well
challenged to keep the pinecone fish.>> Looking for some colorful,
tusk compatible reef-safe fish. Having a difficult time making the
correct choice. Please help if possible. <<Really, just about
anything can live with a tusk except another tusk. I would avoid
puffers, triggers, and the like, but there are many, many other
choices.>> I will not be getting another cleaner ever per your
advise. Will get a goby instead. Thanks for letting me know about that
and it does make sense to leave them in the natural reef systems. <<Fair
enough.>> Regards, Razi Burney <<Cheers, J -- >>
Harlequin Tusk ,Thalassoma Lunare, Butterfly and Emperor/Queen Angel
Hi again Anthony, Thanks for your reply even if it wasn't what I wanted
to hear! The reason I picked the Harlequin was because I read at WWM
that to quote "most everything leaves a harlequin tusk alone and vice
versa" so I thought I was reasonably safe with this <generally
true... but beyond tank size issues, mixing two wrasse species (tusk and
lunare) is quite risky just like mixing tangs or angels. More often than
not there is serious compatibility issues> and they had a lovely one
at the LFS! <a gorgeous fish indeed> They also said it would be
fine with my existing wrasse and as I hadn't heard back from you then (I
think you were lecturing) I bought it and it is now in my QT! <wow...
bummer. Hmm... what to do. Since you do have a QT, you can chance the
mix after QT, and be prepared to pull them if they scrap. This may mean
tearing the rockscape down. No guarantee that the victim will service
the stress of it all either. I'm also thinking in the long run.. lunare
wrasses have a well deserved reputation for turning out to be satanic
once sexually mature. Now I must decide what to do with him! Also I find
that the "pearl" butterfly I was asking about is actually a Redback
butterfly >according to Bob's book ,what can you tell me about this,
is it timid like the pearl or could I get that ? <too timid indeed.
In fact, there are very few butterflies that have a prayer with this
crowd of active feeders even if they are not aggressive. A Raccoon
butterfly may be one of the few with a chance> regarding the Emperor
or Queen are you saying never OR just never with this tank size? <I
hate to say it... but they are all really dreadful mixes for the long
run. These angels are as aggressive or more so than the lunare wrasse
after a year or two. And we need to plan for the long run since these
fishes live well over 10 years. Its like planning for space with a
puppy: no great Danes when living in an apartment. I see this fish
dominating a 300 or 400 gallon aquarium in the 5 year plan. Indeed... I
have seen quite a few in my lifetime do this very thing. For aggression
and your present tank size... no angels in my opinion> I didn't
strike very lucky with this list did I? Thanks again - Jenny <alas,
no my friend. You have picked many wonderfully hardy fishes... but too
many attitudes and too great a size even for the new tank. Best regards,
Anthony> Adding A Tuskfish To The Mix Hi there!!
<Helloooo! Scott F. on the late-night shift with you!> I currently
have a 75 gallon tank and will be upgrading to a 260 gallon DIY tank..
tank and components are built .. I was using a wet/dry and skimmer..
going to DSB, live rock and skimmer(s) I currently have a Juvenile
Emperor angel, a Long Longnose butterfly, a volitans lion (all in the
3.5 -4" range) and my newest addition (and great find) a blue ribbon eel
(yes he eats and is thriving after 2 weeks. although I had to devise an
isolation method for his food.. an acrylic tube with a "trap" at the end
that contains his food.. crawls right in and grabs his food, and is
protected from all the other aggressive feeders in the tank.. took him 3
days to figure it out). <Ingenious idea! Glad that he's eating
well...That's half the battle, IMO!> I am moving everything to the
larger aquarium. I would like to add a harlequin Tuskfish to my little
family if possible.. what are your thoughts? <I think that the
Harlequin Tuskfish is an amazing fish, if given the proper tank
conditions. It can be a rather aggressive fish, once it settles in.
However, in a reasonably competitive environment, such as yours, this
fish can settle in nicely and do very well. Keep in mind that the
Tuskfish can get a bit feisty once it establishes itself, and will
harass new fishes for a while...In the long run, it should be fine in
this sized tank, but I don't think you'd be able to add any more fishes
at that point-the tank is going to be pretty well stocked at this
point...> I would be using hermits and brittle stars as scavengers,
thought of a spiny lobster.. but afraid of the havoc he could cause with
the eel. <I'm thinking that you'd want to avoid the lobster. The
snails- and the hermit crabs will become expensive snacks for the
Tuskfish.. Would the Tuskfish max out the capacity of a tank this
size? If not, what other fish would you recommend as compatible with my
particular mix? A Radiata lion maybe? I am super excited about this new
step.. but also want the fish to be healthy and happy. <I think that
the Tuskfish can work fine in this tank, as would other larger wrasses,
such as the Coris family..> Frank <Enjoy the tank, Frank- I'm
sure that it will be fine! Regards, Scott F>
- Tuskfish -
Our local fish dealer has a beautiful harlequin tusk fish about 3 inch.
long I have a 135 gallon tank with live rock and some soft coral (2
fingers and 1 hammer) Is this fish compatible the books I have don't
say. <Should be fine - they are known to flip things over looking for
food, but they don't 'eat' corals if that is your concern. Cheers, J --
> - Harlequin Tusk and Seastars - I have a harlequin
tusk and I would like to replace my crushed coral with live sand. The
only thing is that the sand needs to be shifted. Can I put sand shifting
stars and or other stars in with the harlequin? <I think the harlequin
tusk would be fine with these seastars, but I'm not really a fan of them
as they can deplete the live part of a live sand bed - the sand-sifting
stars that is.> I have put hermit crab in with him before but one by one
he picks them off. <Different case - these are easy food-prey for a
Tuskfish. Seastars don't really make for good eating unless you're a
harlequin shrimp.> What could I put in the tank that would shift the
sand and not get eaten? <How about a goatfish?> The harlequin is a
wrasse so will he shift the sand enough himself? <Uhh... probably not at
all. Harlequin Tuskfish aren't really buriers - they might flip over
large pieces of substrate looking for food but that's about it. > Thank
you very much, Andy <Cheers, J -- > Wrasse Compatibility
Hello helpers of fish lovers. <Hey there! Fellow fish-lover Scott F.
here tonight> I am setting up a 150 gallon FOWLR tank and wanted to
make it an aggressive species tank. I was wondering if it was
possible to put a Green Bird Wrasse (or any other Wrasse like a
Thalassoma or Halichoeres) with a Harlequin Tusk fish in my tank?
<Possible, yes, but not recommended. Both of these wrasses have somewhat
"strong" personalities, and there would be a certain amount of battling
at any given time. Also, they both reach impressive sizes, and a 150
would be too small to accommodate both for anything close to a natural
life span, IMO.> I have read a few things about only one Wrasse per
tank, but with a 150, is there a way to do 2? <Well, you could go
with multiple Fairy Wrasses, Halichoeres species, Macropharyngodon
(Leopard) species, etc. But I would avoid mixing the species that you
are contemplating> Which would be the best combo of these, which
would be least likely to work out? <One or the other, IMO. Start with
a small one, and you'll have a beautiful specimen of either in a couple
of years> If possible, which would you introduce first? Thank you
Brendgol Majewski <Well, Brendgol- I'd choose the one you like best.
Good luck! Regards, Scott F>
Tankmate Tuskfish Hi Bob,
Surfing through your site on wrasses I came across this beautiful
animal. In fact I saw one at the LFS not too long ago I hope it is still
available. I never thought it is a good fish for the aquarium and
after learning from you I like to get my hand on it since it is
compatible with my clown trigger. Can you share some ideas how to
introduce the fish into the tank with a clown trigger? <I would
try buying, introducing it on an early AM on a day when you could be
there to watch... should be fine.> Is it expensive to own a Tuskfish
in US? I'm not sure about the price here. <A good sized one (let's
say 10 cm.) will run about one hundred US for a Philippine specimen,
twice that maybe for an Australian of quality> At the moment, my
clown is doing fine consuming live fresh water fishes, shrimps and
tetra bit. How about some lettuces as fiber? <Nah, a mess, source
of pollutants and unnecessary... plenty of fiber in other foods>
Indeed it is a beautiful fish to admire beside its boldness display in
the tank. In fact, it do not bother the mushroom and leather coral at
all and some day I plan to get a chiller and add in more corals.
How about the soft corals with clown trigger? <Worth trying> Nice
chatting. David. > <Good day. Bob Fenner> Harlequin tusk
Hi! I have been reviewing a lot of articles on your web site because of
the research I am doing on the fish that I am interested in and would
like your advice before I do my purchasing. <Okay> I
"currently" have a 75 gallon with only live rock and one gorgonian. I
have 20 pounds each of live sand and crushed coral. I would love
to have a harlequin tusk but also have others in mind. Please help me
with my list and tell me out of this list which would be the best for
me to keep, as far as compatibility goes and size and volume for the
tank. Thanks for you help. Robin Harlequin Tusk Blue headed
wrasse (2-3, one male, two females) Niger trigger coral beauty
sand sifting starfish, (if at all possible) lunar wrasse Huma Huma
trigger <Hmm> This would mean so much to me if you could tell me
which way to go with this. I listed the most important first and so
on. These are all fish that I am seriously interested in. I have kept
seahorses for over a year now and am passing on that trade to a very
good friend so that I can go this route. I love my seahorses and they
have done extremely well but I would like to move on to more active
fish. Thanks Robin <Seahorses take real discipline to keep... I'd
leave off with the Seastar (Archaster)... and likely one of the
Triggers... Bob Fenner> Tuskfish tankmates Have a Huma
trigger [3"] and a Holacanthus puffer [2"] - is the Harlequin
Tuskfish a suitable tank mate provided the right size? <Yes, along
with a large enough system... at least a hundred gallons> Am also
planning a goat-fish per your suggestion. <You will enjoy this
addition> Also, do puffers eat anemones? <Many can/do so. Bob
Fenner> TIA. Re: tank mates Really, a 75 would be too
tight? With plans to upgrade to a 100+ within 6 to 8 months? Tank is
overflow type with a tidepool2 sump, bio-balls in the overflow and an
AquaC EV 150 [per Jason Kim's suggestion]. 90+ lbs live sand and 15 lbs
of live rock [more LR coming soon]. Can hold out if I have to. <I
would. Bob Fenner> TIA J-- Harlequin Tusk... Angel and
Aquarist behavior Gentlemen, Bob, <hmmm...since Bob was
addressed separate from your greeting... I take it you've met him <wink>
Anthony Calfo in your service> I read your Harlequin Tusk article
several times and my question relates to the part that says that even
the most incorrigible angels and triggers don't sustain their
aggression or to damage. Well I hope that I'm not the exception but I
fear I may be. I cleared out a few fish on Sat and added a gorgeous
Aust Tusk that was eating (and is) like a champ. The problem is that
my Emperor is pretty aggressive....he barks at everything in there.
<ahhh, yes. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes. Your Emperor is
a nut> Well that was Sat and this morning I saw the angel still
going after the tusk. So how do we define "sustained"? <the problem
is that your Emperor needs to read Bob's article to know how it should
behave...Ha!> And there has been some damage.......a few small split
fins. Do I wait any longer? <my rule is three to five days of
reasonable tolerance. Seven days on exception. If aggression hasn't
abated or if has led to actual wounds, separate them. And a week is very
generous... perhaps too stressful for some fish to endure. Some may need
to be extracted sooner. I'll trust your judgment in observance of the
actual fishes> Will this mix just never work? <very possible>
Thanks for the input. Rick <best regards, Anthony> Reef tank
and tuskfish I am at college right now in the Boston area
studying marine biology and the LFS that I work at currently has a
small Australian tusk fish, Lienardella fasciata (about 3 inch).
<Now placed in the genus Choerodon. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/Choerodon/faciata.htm
and the FAQs beyond> in my dorm room I have a 20 gallon long reef
tank with about 40 pounds of live rock and 30 pounds of live sand and
run 2 55watt powercompacts on it. At home (which I will be going back
to in 3 weeks) I have a 75 reef with 125 pounds of live rock and 90
pounds of live sand and run 4 96w powercompacts and a turbo hang on
skimmer with 3 yellow tail damsels. In both my tanks I have 0 ammonia 0
nitrates and 0 nitrites. I have two questions. I only run a skimmer on
both of my tanks along with a few power heads for water movement and
rely on the live rock and the skimmer for my filtration. <Should
be fine for low-stocked, low-fed, otherwise well-maintained systems>
I was considering adding a bio-wheel Powerfilter to my 20 long to add
some filtration by using Chemi-pure. would it be wise to remove the
bio-wheels when adding them? <I would leave it with unless it
presents noticeable problems later on (like excessive nitrates)> I
heard it can increase your nitrites. <"ates", not "ites"> my
second question is I can with my discount and because they are on sale
get the tusk fish for around 50 dollars, which is considerably
cheaper than usual. the fish is already eating in our dealer tanks
and is doing fine. would it be ok to purchase him and put him in my
20 long (with only one convict goby right now) for just 3 weeks until
I can movie him to my 75? <Mmm, yes... it might eat the Goby... raise
metabolite concentrations> if it wouldn't be a good idea I
understand its just I will never be able to purchase one at this price
ever again. <I would not be so sure... But better than losing it>
I am well aware of the risk of a harlequin tusk in a reef but am
willing to take the chance I know plenty of people that have them in an
established reef) if room would be a problem I can take out about 10
pounds of rock and put it in a holding tank back at the store. Any
help would be great. ~Matt <Be chatting my friend. Bob Fenner>
Re: Reef tank and Tuskfish I cant believe how fast that response
was, you guys are amazing!! By the way I have found you site to be an
unbelievable help to me working at a LFS. People are always coming
into the store and requesting fish such as the dragon wrasse and
clown Sweetlips and are less than accepting to "take my word for it"
on how well they fare in captivity. Your site has been a great help in
backing up what I say about these fish to the customers who are only
interested in purchasing a fish based on looks without any knowledge of
the fish's actual needs and I readily give your web address to
everyone who comes into the store, thank you so much! <Very glad
to find the work of use> I did go ahead and purchase that tusk fish
for my 20 long and he is doing great (already eating), but I think
there might be a problem. I take great care in examining my fish
before I purchase it but I noticed something I didn't see before I
brought it home. There is a faint line (about the width of a piece of
hair) that runs down the length of its body. There is no making of it
around his head, it begins right at the very top tip of his gill slit
and continues all the way down to his tail. I am familiar with
lateral line but every case I have seen has been a much wider
marking, this is unbelievably thin, almost unnoticeable (unnoticeable
it was under the dimmer lights of our tanks at the store). Any help
would be great on what you think this might be and indeed if it is
lateral line any suggestions above and beyond supplemental feeding
with iodine and vitamins? thanks again for all your help. ~Matt <I
have seen this "line" myself. Don't think it is anything to worry about.
Vitamin and HUFA enhancing foods is always a good idea. Bob Fenner>
Harlequin Tusk Wrasse Please advise the maximum size an
Australian specimen of subject fish will attain in a 100 gallon tank.
Thanks, Stephen Pace <You can find the info you wanted here
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/choerodon/index.htm
-Steven Pro> Re: Harlequin Tusk Wrasse Many Thanks, Bob
and how rapidly do they generally grow <adult size in 3-5 years>
and is there a good way to reduce such maximum potential without harming
the fish's health? <not without being cruel or risking stunting and
premature death. The animal is what it is and cannot be made to overcome
evolution so easily> Regards, Stephen Pace <best regards, Anthony
Calfo> Tusk Hey guys, Would a Harlequin Tusk make
quick work of a cleaner shrimp? Thanks. PS....Hey Anthony! Rick
<Please read over WetWebMedia.com re the
specieshttp://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/wrasses/choerodon/faciata.htm.
Bob Fenner> Re: Tusk I know I know. I've read every
marine section at least 2x. I was just hoped that the cleaner would
have been recognized for the service it provides and be left alone.
<More likely an expensive meal... I would try other cleaner species...
You know where to read about these I'll bet! Be chatting, Bob Fenner>
Re: Tusk My cleaner is already in the tank. I'm going to use
selective FAQ reading and use the one where you told some guy that he
could try a cleaner with a puffer and an eel if he put the cleaner in
first. I know the "general rule" is that eels will leave cleaner
shrimp alone. I'm assuming that a Harlequin is about the same or less
of a threat then a puffer........? <We'll, well at least you'll, soon
see! Bob Fenner> Re: Tusk You won't tell me huh? If a
neon goby would do better I'd take out my shrimp and put in a goby
before the Tusk. My last response on this one.......sorry and thanks
for your patience <No worries... am sending you to Mr. Tusk (he
couldn't get over his admiration of Stevie Nicks) himself: Jason.C, for
his further input. Jas? Bob F>
Re: Tusk <Greetings,
Richard - JasonC here...> My cleaner is already in the tank. I'm
going to use selective FAQ reading and use the one where you told some
guy that he could try a cleaner with a puffer and an eel if he put the
cleaner in first. I know the "general rule" is that eels will leave
cleaner shrimp alone. I'm assuming that a Harlequin is about the same or
less of a threat then a puffer........? <Well, I'll tell you... I've
got a tusk fish, and I've got a cleaner shrimp, and they're in the same
tank. The tusk does idle-up for a cleaning every now and then, and
sometimes the shrimp obliges. Now the question I can't answer is how
long that will last. In the wild, shrimps are normal Choerodon fare so
the trick is to keep the tusk well fed I suppose. It's an expensive meal
on the day the tusk decides he is still hungry. Same would go for the
puffer, and likely a similar threat. You'd have much better long term
results with a neon goby - have seen a lot of tusk-cleaning this way.
Good luck. Cheers, J -- > Re: Tusk Thanks for the help
Jason. I figure as much. I guess nothing is guaranteed in a captive
environment. Since I already have a very productive cleaner shrimp,
I'll take my chances there. My Emperor loves that shrimp. Puffer's
don't interest me.......I just want a Harlequin Tusk really bad. I'll
take a shot, if he offs my shrimp I'll try to sneak a goby in there
one night. You guys are the best. Rick <Real good. Keep us
tuned in. Bob Fenner> Harlequin Tuskfish Bob, I would
like to get your advice on purchasing the Harlequin Tuskfish for my 125
gal. "Fish Only" tank. First, I want to know what to look for in a
Quality fish? and if I could keep more than one in the same aquarium?
<like most "wrasses", they can be very aggressive to like kind. A buddy
is unlikely. The best (most colorful and hardy... read: not cheap drug
caught Philippine product) come from Australia. Do pursue an Australian
Tuskfish for your first choice. They are stunning!!! More red than
orange> I have an 8" Snowflake Moray, 2.5" Longnose Hawkfish , two
small Blue damsels and plan on adding a small Zebra Moray and Valentini
puffer. What do you think? Thanks, Tom <A strange mix... the contrast
between adult sizes is not good long term planning. The zebra and tusk
are monsters while the puffer, damsels and hawkfish are eventually going
to be Tusk food (1-3 year picture). Worse still.. the puffer flesh is
toxic and can kill the tusk if molested/eaten. Please reconsider...
although as adults, the eel and tusk take up most all of the bio-load
for a tank your size. Best regards, Anthony Calfo> Re:
Harlequin Tuskfish Anthony, Thanks for your reply! I did give
thought to your advice on the long term size difference between fishes.
I have reconsidered the Tuskfish and Zebra Moray, and opted for a Lunar
Wrasse instead. <arghhhh! I hate to pick bones with you but I would
be remiss if I didn't speak up. You haven't gained any ground at all
with the T. lunare wrasse. If anything you have lost ground. The adult
size of a Tuskfish is cited at 30 cm (12"). The adult size of a Lunar
wrasse is cited at 25-30 cm (10-12") and I have personally seen them
slightly larger! Plus, lunar wrasses become aggressive in aquaria...
much more than Tuskfish. You need to at least reference these fish in an
atlas first, my friend, before buying them> I now have in the tank a
collection of an 8" Snowflake Eel, Longnose Hawkfish, a Valentini
Puffer, 2 Yellowtail Blue Damsel fish, 4 Hermit crabs and the Lunar
Wrasse. <everything listed after the snowflake eel can easily be
eaten by the Lunar wrasse within 18 months. Starting with the hermits...
they are a natural food for large wrasse species.> They all are doing
really well, although the damsels can be somewhat aggressive at times.
I've tried to include a variety of fish that occupy their own little
niche in the aquarium and that would not eventually consume one another,
what do you think of this combination? <I'm sorry to be the
messenger... I know that you certainly mean well and want a successful
tank> Also, the damsels appear to be two different shades of blue,
one more lavender and the other more of an electric blue, could it be a
sex difference? <actually... one already knows the wrasses long-term
plan is scared...hehe> And lastly, what could you recommend that
would add to what I have so far? <yes... a referee. Seriously,
though... a smaller wrasse species would be great. There is a lot of
information on this site in the archives and in Bob's book that describe
ideal fish species including wrasses. take a look at some of these
before you leap next> Thanks Again, Tom <I wish you the best,
Anthony> Harlequin Tuskfish and Lunare Wrasse Bob,
<Anthony Calfo in your service> I'm currently moving some fish out of
an 80 tall and realized that when I'm done all that will be left is a 4
inch Lunare Wrasse and a 2 inch blue spot puffer. <a bit odd as the
Lunare wrasse will dwarf the "Toby" (blue spotted puffer) by nearly a
foot as an adult. The Toby is also toxic and may kill the wrasse if it
ever gets an inclination to eat it> I've read the FAQs and asked
around on the web and I'm trying to find out if a Harlequin Tusk fish
would get along in an 80 tall (4 foot by 18 inches by 24 inches tall)
with a Lunare Wrasse. My assumption is that I'd have to get a similarly
sized tusk fish to match the Wrasse. <as two members of the wrasse
family, there is a good chance that they will fight. Even if they don't,
both max out as adults at around a foot long and will be too big for the
tank within 2 years if they are kept well> Of course the LFS says
"Yeah sure" and I tend to trust her because she's never steered me yet
but I just want to make sure that I'm not hearing yes because she sees a
$150 sale. <I disagree for the long-term> What are the odds that
the tusk fish will go after crabs, shrimp and snails? <very good...
they are natural prey. I feed mine live crayfish in part> I realize
the puffer does but I'm not overly attached to him and the LFS is
amenable to a trade for credit on this little guy. <do consider
trading him in for mid sized sturdy fishes for the wrasse in the long
term. Best regards, Anthony> David Rencher Re: Harlequin
Tuskfish and Lunare Wrasse I thank you. <very welcome!>
Everyone else has been flat out "No way man, Tusk Fish get to like 3
feet" <really even 12" is large... 8" in three to five years would be
expected...still a big fish though and one to be reckoned with
(filtration, feeding, etc)> At least you've given me an informed
answer and some food for thought. I like the Toby but I really dig start
fish and my little Toby just chows down if he gets a chance... so I'm
thinking he may be gone soon. <agreed> The only reason I'm keeping
the Lunare is because he's a bit bigger than the reputable LFS will take
on trade. <actually, I love this fish! Gorgeous as an adult and
incredibly hardy!!!...just a bit large and aggressive for most tanks>
She's afraid he might be TOO big and the LFS that will take him has no
problem with putting him in a tank that's HORRIBLY infected with ich.
<some people/LFS seem to make money in spite of themselves (sheesh)>
So... I'll have to do some thinking here. The odds are I will upgrade to
a larger tank in the next little while. Or at least a similar sized tank
to the house (I'm single, nobody cares how many tanks I have) so it
would be possible in a few years to move one of the wrasses...
<excellent... and on the basis that you can find a home one way or
another for certain (and have a small QT tank necessary in the meantime)
I could agree with a cautious mix of the two creatures (sending one to
QT/penalty box...heheh... if necessary> Thanks for the input... I'll
continue the research. I'm 2 months away from being ready to add any
fish anyway. (I've decided to go really slow on migrating the existing
fish into the new tank in order of hardiest fish first.) <very
wise... best of luck, Anthony> Re: Harlequin Tuskfish
Anthony, Thanks so much again for your quick replies to my e-mail
questions! I also want to thank you and this website for all the great
information. It is very helpful and interesting! <Steven Pro
answering a few emails on this holiday weekend. I am glad we could be of
assistance and I am sure Anthony will see your thank you on the Daily
page.> I have been doing more research on the fishes I plan on
keeping in my FO aquarium before I stock it any more. <A very good
idea. Always best to create a wish list of all intended fish first.>
Previous to finding this website, I have been acquiring info on the fish
from the Marine Fishes book by Scott W. Michael and from my LFS. <I
like the book, too.> The book is great for quick reference but it
does not go into much detail, and at the LFS, it seems like I talk to a
new salesman every time I go in. So from now on I think I'll stick to
your site for advice before I make any more mistakes!! Right now I am
observing the activities of the fish very closely and they seem to be
doing fine. The Lunar Wrasse is only about 2 1/4" long right now and is
the same size or smaller than the rest of it's tankmates (besides the 2
damsels), which may give me some time to determine who will go and who
will stay in the final set-up! I still would like to acquire the
Tuskfish in the near future even if I have to set-up another FO tank,
but for now I will keep on researching and studying! Thanks once
again, Tom <You are quite welcome. -Steven Pro> Tusk and
Angel Thanks Anthony, I trust your judgment as your advice has
proved time and time again to be the truth. <experience is the best
teacher to my chagrin sometimes <smile> Well Yesterday was day 3 and
when I came home from work at about 6:30, there was a pretty nice chunk
taken from the tusks back fin and he seemed to be losing his resolve.
<I would too...heehee> I killed the lights and covered the tank this
morning so it will be pitch black all day. The violence seems
significantly less in the dark. <maybe we should try that in the
Middle east?> Bottom line is that this can't go till tomorrow. I'm
milling a few options over now: 1) Return the Tusk tonight......use the
credit to get something else this weekend......problem is I think at
this point the Emperor just won't tolerate anyone new. <nope...too
stressful on an already stressed fish. It may kill him and what a shame
it would be to lose this living jewel> 2) Bring the Emperor in and
have my LFS guy hold him for a week or two and then bring him back.....I
noticed that fish that were in my tank before him were basically OK.
<nope... the angel is what it is> 3) Bring the Emperor back and get a
new smaller angel that has nice color as well (Majestic.....I can handle
it)........ <not my vote either... rather pot luck to do so>
Problem here is that this Emperor is SPECTACULAR, eats out of my hand,
but is he just too big and mean for this tank now? <but magnificent
I'm sure... I'd hate to part with him too> 4) Bring back the Tusk and
don't add anything (this is the one you'll say I'm sure)......
<surprise... nope again. Moving this tusk would be my absolute last
choice> just a bit depressing to think I can never add another fish
until I get a bigger tank, <how about a smaller/mid sized tank that
you can use as a larger QT for just such emergencies... perhaps a
30long? That's my vote for at least the 3 to six month picture to
stabilize the tusk and give the poor fella a fighting chance to service
having made it all this way from collection> not to mention the fact
that I moved 2 fish out in preparing for the tusk so it'll be more
empty. What do you think friend? Any of those options you like BESIDES
#4? <yes... definitely a bigger QT/isolation tank for the angel or
tusk (assuming they fit comfortably alone in say a 30long. A simply
sponge filter and some live rock would be just fine with twice monthly
small water changes most likely. Really a lot less expensive than
watching either fish die or you getting hosed on a stressful trade in
(for you and the fish <wink>)> Thanks. Rick Best of luck, my
friend, Anthony> Harlequin Tusk & Bird Wrasse Hi Bob,
<JasonC here, greetings.> I've got a coral tank with clams in it.
Beautifully decorated in a 4 feet tank. <Good deal> Now I've
fallen in love with the Harlequin Tusk and Green Bird Wrasse.
<understandable, both just absolute lookers... the Choerodon fasciata
being one of my personal favorites.> Checked around and been getting
contradictory views on whether I can put them in my coral tank. Some
say YES and some say NO WAY. <'Could' and 'should' being two
different answers.> Have a friend who has a HT in his coral tank for
a year and he has not been biting off any of his precious corals. Well
behaved indeed much like what you wrote in your site. <Well behaved
for a fish who doesn't eat corals in the wild...> I'm confuse if I
can have them in my tank or otherwise. Kindly advise and thanks. Steve
<Well, the quick answer is no... it's not wise, mostly because the
choice of tankmates in a "reef" system tend more towards the small scale
and docile behavior. Even though either of these fish would be the
passive member of a fish only system, they would be the most boisterous
member of a reef system. Both grow to over a foot, and take up every bit
of that space which means you would need to upgrade that tank sometime
in the future if you wanted to keep the fish for any time. In addition,
both are strong, fast swimmers and their darting can be disconcerting to
less motile tank members. This same speed can make it hard to compete
for food if you're not a Tusk or Bird Wrasse but instead living with
one. Likewise, their taste for certain invertebrates is not good news
for small bivalves, worms, copepods, and various shrimp that one might
want to keep/encourage in a reef system. Would a tusk sample a
Tridacnid? Probably not if well acclimated to daily feedings, but would
that same tusk flip over a frag or two looking for food? For a
certainty, it will happen. So are either of these fish a good choice for
a coral and clam tank? No. Could you build a mixed system of
photosynthetic gorgonians and a tusk fish? That could work well. Hope
that helps... Cheers, J -- > Harlequin Tusk & Bird Wrasse
Hi Bob, <Anthony Calfo in your service> I've got a coral tank with
clams in it. Beautifully decorated in a 4 feet tank. Now I've fallen in
love with the Harlequin Tusk and Green Bird Wrasse. <both
magnificent fishes... neither are remotely responsible to put in a reef
tank> Checked around and been getting contradictory views on whether
I can put them in my coral tank. Some say YES and some say NO WAY.
<no way doesn't begin to describe how bad the choice is. They do not eat
coral at all. But their endless search and curiosity for crustaceans
(shrimp, crabs... desirable in the reef at times) amplified by their
large adult size (both approaching a foot) lends them to wreak havoc by
randomly flipping coral over and off of the rockscape. I would regard
their addition as unlikely to succeed in most tanks and irresponsible
especially if one has LPS corals (brain, bubble, torch, elegant, etc>
Have a friend who has a HT in his coral tank for a year and he has not
been biting off any of his precious corals. <that's because they
don't ever eat coral... just crustacea in the wild... and his tusk is
almost certainly still young/too small to toss larger heads of coral to
look underneath yet (its under 6"... perhaps 4" or less?)> Well
behaved indeed much like what you wrote in your site. <yep... with
other fishes in general> I'm confuse if I can have them in my tank or
otherwise. Kindly advise and thanks. Steve <best regards, Anthony>
Harlequin Tusk <Greetings, JasonC here.> Read your article of
the harlequin tusk and cannot resist getting one in my tank. I have been
shopping for an Australian since last week but just cannot get it. Do
you know of some place where I can purchase this beauty for my tank ?
<try both of our site sponsors, Flying Fish Express and Marine Center.
If I recall they both have Australian Tusks on sale.> I am providing
my setup below. Can you please see if this fish will is a fit for my
tank. 1 lionfish - 4" 1 Blueface angel - 4" 3 sand sifting
stars 2 brittle stars 2 red fire shrimp - 2" Inverts like crabs
and snails (Will be tusk's snack eventually - per your article)
Mushrooms Flowerpot Plate Toadstool Leather 3
Featherduster Brown Polyps 2 Brain Coral Colt Elegance
150 lb Liverock 4" sandbed 150 Gallon tank Skimmer Micron
Filter Tank conditions within standard guidelines Will a tusk eat all
corals ? <The tusk won't eat any corals. It might flip over a frag
looking for something else to eat, but it won't eat corals.> What is
a replacement of the inverts that he will eat up ? <Replace in what
way?> Exactly what inverts will be go for ? <They like shrimp,
crabs, and small bivalves.> Can he live with the lion and a Blueface
angel ? <I think so, in a 150, yes.> I have a panther grouper
but he stays in a smaller tank. These get too big and cause problems
later down the road. <That won't last for long as these groupers get
very large, as you know. As long as you don't add the grouper to the
150, all should be fine.> Can you recommend a fish that I can keep
after the tusk as my fourth. I would like to have at least 4 fish in
there if my tank can handle the bio-load. <I think your tank could
handle it. Many, many choices... avail yourself to
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/marine/fishes/ > Please advise. Just can't
wait for this fish in my tank as I am looking for attractive/colorful
fish. I am sure that this is the fish that will be my center piece (Only
if I can find one). <And harlequin tusks are all that... one of my
favorite fish.> My LFS is trying to talk me into a Philippine
species but I am not going for it until you tell me to. <Both this
season and last I have seen many good looking tusks hail from the Indo
Pacific. You might want to consider it if the price for an Aussie tusk
is too dear.> I read your opinion about them and am staying away
from it. Will buy from internet if you know some trusted source.
<Check the above ref. All and all the tusk is a very hardy fish. Do have
a good quarantine tank set up in advance to hold this fish for a couple
of weeks before releasing into the display system.> Many thanks in
advance. Will wait for your response. Razi Burney <You are
welcome. Cheers, J -- > Room for a Tusk? Gentlemen:
<Greetings to you.> I am debating about adding a Harlequin tusk to my
125G FO w/out LR tank. Current inhabitants are as follows: 1 Hippo
tang (6") 1 Foxface (6") 1 Kole tang (4") 1 percula clown 1
Banggai cardinal 1 Arabian Pseudochromis The first 4 fish have
been in the tank for almost 3 years, with the last two in about 1 year.
<Gosh... in my view of the world, that's a full tank. Given the fact
that tusks can grow to over a foot, as can your Foxface and hippo tang,
I'd lean towards suggesting against it. As an aside, I'd be most
concerned about a run-in with the venomous Foxface, which would end
badly for the incoming tusk.> The LFS has a beautiful specimen which
he says is from Australia. The stripes are very blue, I realize not
totally indicative of being Aussie, but a perhaps a sign. The cost is
$90. <That's a low price at LFS for an Aussie tusk, but... it could very
well be. How's your tank for hiding spaces?> I would appreciate your
assessment. <A 135 is not a small tank, but it may be too small for
three fish who are still growing... tusks are fairly easy going, as are
the fish you listed, but the tusk will be the newcomer to a
well-established group. If you really want this fish, I'd make sure you
have lots of live rock for swimming through, and hiding under. You may
also want to rearrange the rock before you introduce the tusk so that
the tusk doesn't snag someone else's spot, so to speak. Also, plan to
quarantine the tusk for a month or more until you are positive it is
familiar with you and your feeding habits. This will help ease the
transition to the display which is pretty much guaranteed to not be
hassle-free.> Thanks, Mitch <Cheers, J -- > Re: Can I
have 2 harlequin tusks ? Hi Bob, <Greetings, Razi - JasonC
here.> I am still trying to find an Australian tusk. Checked with one
distributor on internet and he is telling me that they have not seen one
for about 4 months. Do they come only in a specific season ? <Not as far
as I know, but they do seem more 'around/available' in the summer
months. Did you check with Marine Center - they report to have a 4"
Aussie tusk available.> Also, Can I have 2 harlequin tusks in a 150
gallon reef tank? <No, that's not really enough space.> Since they love
crustaceans like crabs and snails, what would be one of the replacements
for the lost inverts. Crabs and snails do good cleanup job but I am sure
that there are other alternatives available in their absence. <Your own
elbow grease, perhaps. But seriously, a tusk isn't going to eat a snail
that is too large to fit in it's mouth. You should be able to keep some
vestige of a clean-up crew and not fear retaliation from the tusk.> I
would like to keep in Philippine and one Australian if you think that
they can coexist. <No, I don't think they will co-exist.> They will be
tankmates with a tang that I have yet to purchase. I am so much in
love with this tusk that I will change my setup if needed. <Just change
your plan for two to one, and all will be well.> Will keep corals as
he does not graze on them. Will use coral glue as tusks can knock them
down if needed. <it's not an issue of glue but the size of the things
most people glue the corals to.> Please advise if this will be a
mistake. <Again, with the exception of wanting to house two tusks, you
are on the right track.> Regards, Razi Burney <Cheers, J -- >
Re: Will Harlequin Tusk eat starfish and serpent stars ? Hi
JasonC, <Good day!> Many thanks for so much information so fast. I
will be keeping one Australian tusk only as advised by you. Forgot to
ask a couple of other questions. Here they are: Q. Will harlequin
tusk eat starfish and serpent stars? if no, Any chances of HT hurting
the stars and serpents? <The chances are very low to non-existent that a
tusk would harm a sea star.> Q. Should I feed him live gold fish or
give him frozen shrimp ? Any preference or advise to keep him healthy
and well fed will help. <Absolutely no live feeders. These fish are very
open-minded when it comes to food, and you should do fine with frozen
krill, shrimp, clams, squid, and Mysis. Perhaps throw in something green
once in a while - like Formula Two. Just mix it up, keep the diet
varied.> I have contacted "The Marine Center" and am placing the
order Tuesday. Spoke with them and they do have Australians in stock.
They priced it at $119 for a large. Do you think this is an Australian
as you mention that price is the best guide for these species. <Well,
they are also on 'special' and Marine Center has a solid reputation for
the fish they ship/sell. I'm quite confident that you will get a healthy
Aussie tusk.> Many thanks in advance. You guys are great. Regards,
Razi Burney <Cheers, J -- > Re: Tusk acting aggressive
Hi Bob, <Actually, it's JasonC... again.> Tusk has been doing very
normal since last week in the tank and has been swimming around and
eating great. Health looks great and I am keeping my water conditions
excellent. He usually eats 2 times a day (Formula 1 - 2 cubes at one
time). Total cubes he takes a day is 4 and sometimes misses 1 cube as
they fall behind the rocks and are consumed by other inverts like stars
and serpents. I have seen him aggressive against green serpent star
but you mentioned that he will hardly go after sea stars. Can you please
confirm. <I'm sure this is possible, but not a sign that the tusk will
eat it. Just trying to show it who's boss, like the seastar cares or
something...> Added a Sohal tang (3") today. They both did not like
each other in the first 10 minutes as tang wanted to take his home away.
I see both fishes trying to take the space that was originally chosen by
the tusk. Sohal Tang is not really going after him but does not like him
close either. Since then the tusk has been swimming aggressively and is
all over the tank. His swimming patterns are aggressive and is swimming
at all levels. Occasionally swims very fast which I have never seen him
doing this before the tang was introduced. I have shut down the lights
to ease the tension. Is there something that needs to be addressed.
<Perhaps you don't have enough hiding places? These things usually take
a couple of weeks to a month to work themselves out. How large is this
system? You could be on the small side with the addition of another
power-swimmer.> Salinity and all other water conditions are fine. Tusk's
aggressive swimming pattern has made other small fish like damsels hide
behind the rocks. He slows down for a while and then goes again. In most
of these cases Sohal tang is not even close but is in eye sight. Any
advice will be helpful. What should I do next ? <Be patient... you
haven't had either fish really that long, and you need to give these
time to work themselves out. You could also rearrange the furniture in
the tank, to break up existing territories.> Many thanks in advance.
<Cheers, J -- >
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