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FAQs About Turtle Systems: Basking Areas

Related Articles: Turtles, AmphibiansRed Eared Slider CareThe Care and Keeping of the Red Eared Slider, Trachemys scripta elegans by Darrel Barton,

Related FAQs: Turtle Systems 1, Turtle Systems 2, & Further Subdivided FAQs on Turtle Systems: Turtle Enclosures, Turtle System Filtration, Turtles & Light (UV plus), Turtle System Heating, Turtle Substrates & Decor, Turtle System Maintenance, Overwintering Environments, RES Systems, & Turtles 1, Turtles 2, Red Ear Sliders, Turtle Identification, Turtle Behavior, Turtle Compatibility, Turtle Selection, Turtle Feeding, Turtle Disease, Turtle Reproduction, & by Species: Cooters/Mud Turtles, Softshells, Snapping Turtles, Mata Matas, Tortoises, & AmphibiansOther Reptiles

 

Basking concerns, RES  10/17/09
Dear Crew
<Hiya - Darrel here>
I am a fairly new owner of two red eared sliders. They are active, seem to eat well and generally seem to be doing well. I'm concerned that I do not see them out basking and know this is essential to their health. They are in a 55 gallon aquarium set up where they have both water and land, as well as several other areas they can get out of the water to bask. I do have a calcium bone in the water that I can see they are using. I have pellets that I feed them, as well as some dried shrimp occasionally and some soft meaty food. I have tried to give them some romaine lettuce, but they do not eat it.
<Nor should they. Koi pellets or Repto-min turtle sticks (either one) are a completely balanced diet for Red Eared Sliders. That and an occasional earth worm as a treat (maybe one or two a month) is all they need.>
They also will only eat food if I put it in the water, they will not come out to get anything from the dish in the dry area.
<Sliders are water feeders, which is to say that they primarily eat what they find in the water. The will, from time to time, climb up on a bank and snatch something and then drag it back into the water in order to eat it. You should hand feed them>
I have a basking lamp over the dry land area and a UV light over the water area. It's possible they could be out basking when I am not around, as they are still pretty skittish when there's movement around the tank.
<possible>
Should I be concerned and/or is there something else I should be doing to encourage them to come out of the water? Also, I have the basking lamp on a timer and do not use the night heating lamp, is that night lamp necessary?
<You should always be concerned .. just not worried. The first thing to do is make sure you have a temperature gradient. If the water is warm enough they won't feel the need to bask even though they need it. The water should never be above room temperature and the basking area around 85-90 degrees. This way they have clear choices..>
<No lights or heat at night ... let everything cool naturally and then it will all cycle again in the morning. Here's a care guide we have -- check your conditions against the guide and correct anything that's not quite in order: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/RESCareBarton.htm>

Turtle basking. Sys.  10/11/09
I live in Lahore, Pakistan and I have a Kachuga smithii turtle as a pet. I keep it in a tub and it is a healthy turtle.
<A tub? With a filter? You can't just keep it in a plastic tub of water. It will eventually get sick. Do read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWsubwebindex/redearsliders.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWsubwebindex/RESCareBarton.htm
Kachuga smithii is similar in size and dietary requirements, so everything that holds for Red-ear Sliders holds for Kachuga smithii. It is reported that Kachuga smithii is a very widely sold pet turtle in Pakistan, but the vast majority end up dead because the owners do not know how to look after them! This is not very different to how it was with Red-ear Sliders when they were sold as cheap pets in England. The problem is that just because something is cheap to buy, it doesn't mean it is cheap to keep alive. All turtles -- repeat ALL TURTLES -- are demanding pets. You need a big vivarium, a filter, regular water changes, a balanced diet, and a source of heat and UV-B light. Since you live in Pakistan, room temperature (unless your home is air conditioned) should be warm enough for the turtle, so a heater isn't required.>
I want to know that here in Pakistan, there is a lot of sunlight so I let it bask for fifteen minutes. Is that enough?
<No. Needs a couple of hours per day, at least six hours per week, at least nine months of the year. On the other hand, if you put a water turtle outside without providing it with a place to swim, it can easily overheat and die. So, if you wanted to use sunlight, you would need a safe outdoor CAGE (to keep predators out as well as the turtle in). Put a basin of water inside the cage for the turtle to swim in, and a rock upon which it could bask. Change the water daily, and clean the cage as required.>
I also want to ask that the common tube lights we have in our homes and offices are fluorescent lights. Do they produce UV-B light?
<No, they don't. Must be a very specific UV-B (not UV-A) light. Note than some people might try to sell you a UV-A light, sometimes called an ultraviolet or "black" light. These are the ones that make white fabrics glow purple. UV-A is not what reptiles need. Buy a specific UV-B lamp designed for reptiles. Any decent pet shop specialising in reptiles should sell these. Cheers, Neale.>

Innovative New Turtle Basking Platform – 02/19/09
Hi, Bob, Neale & Crew,
<Paul>
Hope all is well. I have written many times before and you have always been very helpful. Bob, I saw your revised book at the 2009 Global Pet Expo in the new product showcase (TFH entry), looks great, can't wait to get my hands on copy. Anyway I am writing to let your readers know about a great new turtle product that is going to hit the market very soon. I know you often get questions about turtles, so I thought you might enjoy seeing this product. The product is the Reptology Turtle Topper, a unique and innovative above tank basking platform that will fit most standard tanks up to and including 55 gallon tanks. For turtles that are active swimmers and baskers, this product will have so many benefits. If anyone is interested I would encourage them to watch the below video that I did with ReptilesTV.com, the video, which is posted on YouTube currently explains all the great features. I am confident you will enjoy the video and find it informative. Thank you. The link is -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LICy7PWiCQg
Paul Demas
Project Manager
Penn Plax, Inc
<Nice video, good idea for this ap. Hello to the Rosens and Goldmans. Bob Fenner>

Re: Innovative New Turtle Basking Platform – 02/19/09
Bob,
<Paul>
Thanks, glad you liked it. I personally believe it is a great turtle basking product, different from anything on the market right now. Will say hello, didn't realize you knew the Goldman family.
<I met them... many years ago... on Long Island... through Eugene Danner I believe, before he had son... Mike take over Supreme... man! I am getting olde!>
Would also encourage everyone to take the time to visit www.reptilestv.com they have some great
videos on reptile care. Thanks for everything.
Paul Demas
Project Manager
Penn Plax, Inc
<Welcome. BobF>

Turtle care question (RES): basking problem  10/23/07
I have two turtles living in a 55 gal. tank. I have a problem with the basking space though. I've gotten the floating dock/platforms (like R-Zilla or Zoo-Med) and I've also tried cork. The problem is that one of the turtles bites the platform, so I end up with bitten pieces messing the tank as well as clogging the filters, and platforms getting smaller and smaller for turtles that keep getting bigger and bigger =D
Both turtles are in good health and well fed. I've had them for a couple of years and they are about 5" now (when I got the first one is was smaller than 1"), but I just 'adopted' the one that chews the platforms a few months ago. What can be causing this behavior? Any other ideas on materials or designs I can use to create a new basking area? Thanks in advance.
Yenelli
<Greetings. To be honest, the floating cork idea sounds a bit of a non-runner. Possibly viable for delicate things like frogs, but inadequate for turtles. So I'd get rid of that. Floating platforms really aren't going to work for adult turtles. Fine for fingerlings, but an adult Red Ear Slider is the size of a dinner plate with a weight to match, and that's simply not going to balance on any floating object much smaller than the Queen Mary! Instead, you need to create a rigid platform above the waterline. There are lots of ways to create a safe and stable basking area like this. The classic approach is to create a rock or sand bank at one end of the tank. This might involved safely securing some rocks in a heap, and then filling the gaps with sand or gravel to stop things from rolling down accidentally. Using silicone sealant is always a good idea when creating such structures. Three or four squarish boulders with a big slate on top can also make a nice table-like structure. Sliders really aren't that fussy. The most important thing is that whatever you make is [a] stable and [b] easy to clean. Cheers, Neale.>

Turtle Dock - 02/09/2007
I am making a turtle dock out of PVC and Plexi-glass. What glues do your recommend? Would PVC cement ( Oatey's brand) be ok?
<I would use this between the PVC pipe itself and some Silastic ("Silicone") to adhere the Plexi to the top>
Also, what is the difference between silicone adhesive and silicone sealant?
<These are identical>
I have heard many different things, and I do not want to kill the turtles.
Thanks for your help,
Katherine
<Just look for, buy one that states it is 100% Silicone... no additives (some have mildewcides for tub, window applications). Bob Fenner>

New Birthday Turtle Questions   5/9/06
Hi! My friends just recently bought me a turtle for my birthday and I had a couple of questions. First: They set up the tank for me and automatically put the turtle in the water… is this bad?
< No; turtles are used to being put directly into water.>
Should they have let the water settle?
< No, not needed as with fish.>
Second: The heater is lying on its side in the water.  I have read that heating rocks are not good for turtles. I was wondering if the turtle is able to climb on it, will he burn himself?
<Pull the heating rock and replace it with a good basking with a proper light bulb that will heat the area up at least 85 F and provide the required UVA and UVB radiation.>
Should I rig it up differently?
< Yes as described above.>
Third: I have read through your website and wanted to know if when changing the water, how exactly should I do this? Should I let that settle for a couple of days before putting it in? What is the best way to go about this?
< Siphon or pour the water out of the tank. Fill a 5 gallon bucket with a good water conditioner and fill up the bucket and then pour it in the tank.>
I want to do this the safest way possible for my turtle… please help!
A seriously concerned turtle parent!
< Turtles are not as touchy about their water as fish are. Just add the water conditioner and pour it in.-Chuck>

Tiny Turtles With Violet Fishes 10/28/05
I have a 20 gallon brackish water aquarium with a violet goby. I just got two tiny turtles - they are about 1 inch each. I would like to know if I put something in there where they can get out of the water - could I keep them in there? Yes they are turtles that live in water, and I do not know what kind they are. Even if I could keep them in there, It would be only a temporary housing until I can get a turtle cage.
< Little turtles would benefit from a turtle raft by Zoomed. This is a little flotation device used to float up and down as the water level in the tank changes. They need heat and special lighting too. I would recommend a turtle book so you can read up on the requirements needed as well as check out the WWM website for setting up a turtle tank. Finding out what kind of turtle you have would be a big help too.-Chuck> 
<<A side note:  A violet goby could easily be hurt by a turtle.  Not great tankmates at all.  Furthermore, brackish water probably isn't ideal for the turtles.  -SCF>>

Turtle in too Deep 7/20/05
Hi again, I'm so sorry to bug you again, but I forgot to ask you another question. I was just wondering if the depth of my turtles tank is too deep or too shallow. He's about 2 1/2 inches long an 2 1/2 inches wide. He's probably about 1 year old. I found him in an in ground pool. Well anyway, The depth of the water is 2 inches. There's a slope that leads up from the water onto the land, so he has like a shallow end and a deep end to swim. Is that fine, or should I make the water deeper or shallower?  Also, I'm not exactly sure if my turtle is a male or female. I'm thinking it's a male because, it's tale is quite long and kind of wide. Its front claws are pretty long also. So please, answer my questions as soon as you can. Thank you so much! Sincerely, Tiffany
< I like to make sure that the water covers the turtles back by at least a couple inches of water so it doesn't dry out too much. Longer front claws and a long tail would indicate that you turtle is a male.-Chuck>

Steps Too Tall for Turtle?
Hello,
<Hi, Pufferpunk here>
I am the overly anxious new owner of a red eared slider.  I am concerned about the basking area.  I set it up using different sized bricks.  The first one is about 3 and 1/2 inches off the bottom and completely covered with water, the next is about 2 inches, and the top is another 2 inches up.  My question is- is that first step too high up for him?  I have only had him less than a day but he doesn't go up there unless I put him up there.  Should that first step be lower?  I saw him get down okay, just not up.
<It would help to know how large the turtle is.  I would give him a longer platform, instead of the extra step.>  
Thanks for your help
Julie






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