New Tank Setup 6-09-2009
my Betta died shortly after the move...
Hi there. Thanks so much for all your advice with my sick Betta. He passed away but he was pretty old and I think the move was too much for him. The fungus was starting to go away but I guess it was just his time. Now, can I put one of my other fish in his tank? What do I need to do to prepare it?
<Sorry to hear that, I hate it when my favorite fish pass away. For the new tank I would recommend breaking it down and giving it a good cleaning in hot water. I would then set it up empty for a few days with medication just to be on the safe side. Then you can easily add a new Betta after a few days, without worry. You are welcome! Merritt A.>

Small tank, Betta, Corydoras sys.  5/12/09
Hi, I wrote in a few days ago about a sick fish and Neale told me that my tank is simply too small (3 gallons- 1 molly, 2 platies, 1 albino Cory).
Since them I have found a home for them and have been doing research on what kind of fish I could put in such a small tank. My research has come up with a beta.
<Yes, you can -- just about -- squeeze a Betta (rhymes with "better", not "beater") into a 3 gallon tank. But I wouldn't recommend it; chances of success are far greater in a tank at least 5 gallons in size. I cannot
stress enough how difficult it is to maintain any fish in such a small volume of water.>
However, my concern is that these other fish which have been in my tank since January have been sickly or the water has been off and so there has been lots of Melafix in that tank (the antibiotic I have been using which apparently is just as good as antiseptic). I've had what may or may not be fin rot, something that may be parasites or dropsy right now (swollen belly, white stringy poo_, I'm not really sure and probably much more disease in the tank than I would like to know about.
<Finrot and Fungus are latent in all tanks, since the bacteria and fungi involved are harmless, even beneficial, when fish are healthy. It's only when the fish get weakened -- often because the environment is wrong --
that these bacteria and fungi become dangerous. Ergo, keep your fish happy, and Finrot and Fungus are never a problem!>
So my questions are: is this tank truly suitable for a beta?
<Marginal. I wouldn't bother.>
I went through a lot of trouble with these other fish, I want a fish that I can enjoy. It's 3 gallons, filter, BioWheel, heater, and lots of hiding spaces.
<Seriously, three gallons is a bucket. You would do so much better keeping a Betta in 5 gallons or more; for 3 gallons, I'd keep Cherry Shrimps or Crystal Red Shrimps. They're pretty, they're inexpensive, and they're fun to watch. Kept properly, Cherry Shrimps breed readily, and it's fun to watch them at all different sizes.>
Secondly, should I clean the tank before I put the beta in?
<Certainly give it a clean, but there's no need to sterilise it, and certainly no need to throw away live filter media.>
If so, with what? Throw the gravel out? Just throw out the water and rinse the gravel to get rid of the old poo that might be buried under there? And for how long should I let the tank cycle, if at all?
<If the aquarium has been empty for more than a few days, chances are the bacteria have died back to a very low level. Not zero, but low. So you will want to cycle for at least 2-3 weeks before adding another fish. Shrimps produce less ammonia, so if you add just a three Cherry Shrimps immediately, and three a week later, you should be fine.>
I know it seems like I can just look these answers up and I have but there has been a lot of conflicting information and some suggestion that I clean my tank with BLEACH! My BioWheel has NOTHING on it, looks just as new as it did when I got it back in January (4 months ago). Could it be from all the Melafix?
<No.>
And is there ANY WAY I can keep my albino Cory? I really like him and would be saddest to see him go.
<Sure, in a bigger tank. Since these are schooling fish, make the Cory happy by keeping six in a tank 15-20 gallons or larger. Keeping a singleton is cruel.>
Thank you
<Cheers, Neale.>

My Betta is Listless and White
Another Sick Betta: Lots of Reading Needed. Betta Sys\Environment: 5/5/2009
<Hi Lynda>
This is my first Betta and I've had Jonah for one week.
He's in a 1 gallon plastic tank with gravel and a plastic plant.
<Not the best environment for a Betta, despite what the stores tell you.
Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/betsysfaqs.htm
>
I had been feeding him the flakes and he seemed fine;
<Another sore spot, They do need a varied diet. Please read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/betfdgfaqs.htm >
however, he was never very active and hung out near the gravel.
After six days the water became cloudy and I changed the entire tank.
<Ammonia poisoning most likely, Read about nutrient cycling here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwestcycling.htm >
<Also, did you dechlorinate the new water before adding it to the tank?>
The following morning Jonah appeared listless, staying on the bottom and not moving.
He's also looks as though he's covered in white stuff.
<hmm.... Probably mucus from environmental causes: Read here:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebindex/bettadiseases.htm >
I went to the pet shop and they gave me something for the PH level and a liquid for relieving stress.
<Likely useless>
I also heated the water by putting the tank on a heating pad and added a 7 watt light on top.
<Good>
He still hasn't moved and hasn't eaten.
What can I do to make him better? Is it hopeless?
<Please read the above linked pages. There is a lot of information posted on properly caring for Bettas.>
Thank you.
<My pleasure>
Lynda
<MikeV>

Re: Another Sick Betta: Lots of Reading Needed. Betta Sys\Environment: 5/6/2009
<Hi Lynda>
Thank you. I've spent time reading the pages you sent and now I don't even know where to begin to try to save Jonah. He is still on the bottom and not moving, and he doesn't look so white. His fins don't look so great. They look thin and much shorter.
<Buy yourself a test kit for ammonia>
I did change some of the water - Brita filtered, (It sat for more than a day.), added aquarium salt, and conditioner.
<Aquarium salt is pretty much useless.>
I think I'll need to get different housing. And here I thought having a Betta was going to be easy and no trouble.
<It is still a living creature and does need proper care.>
How long should it take for him to get better?
<Impossible to say at this point.>
Is there any medication to help him? Is there anything else I can do.
<No medication, do get a test kit and check his water. Do keep up with regular water changes.>
I feel so bad because I ruined his life. He might have been better off in the pet shop.
<Don't beat yourself up too hard. many Bettas die in transit or in the pet shop. Plus, the perpetuation of the "myth of the Betta in the cup." Keep reading and learning>
Thanks. I appreciate your sending me all that information.
<My pleasure>
<MikeV>

Link Exchange Please, no   5/6/09
HI My name is Paul and I have recently started an online store selling some amazing fish tanks.
I would like to say that I love wet web media and it is a great resource for all pet fish information, and I have added a link to your site from my site at http://aquariumsbowls.com/information.php?info_id=9 Let me know if you would like this changed in any way/ anchor text or description.
I would really appreciate if you could return the favor and link to mine.
The Title(anchor text): Fish tanks
The site is: http://www.aquariumsbowls.com
Description: Unique Fish tanks and aquariums for marine, tropical and Bettas.
Thanks very much for your time!
Paul Sutherland
info@aquariumsbowls.com
<Paul, I/we elect not to link or help you promote these items... It is my decided opinion that what you show/list is not of use to "home hobbyists"... Bare bowls for Bettas, sans heater, filter... won't work for the "average" person to keep Siamese Fighting Fish alive, well, for long... and the small, tall cylinders you show are poor for similar reasons... lacking much needed surface area and volume to house much of anything, least the animals shown in the "ads"... I strongly suggest you revisit, think long and hard re what you are up to here... And either change your product assortment, or add at least some commentary re what will be required if one tries to keep life in these ornamental containers. Bob Fenner>

Betta Question, hlth., env.   4/5/09
Hello. I have a 3 gallon eclipse tank and a Betta that I've had for 3 months now and just last week I noticed HIS FINS are FUSED together. He cant fan them out and this is the second Betta that this has happened to.
The other time it happened I had my Betta in a small unfiltered tank - but I've upgraded to this 3 gallon - and he was doing fine until a week ago.
I've started adding Melafix
<Not warranted... I would NOT use this product period>
to his tank but its not working. I do NOT have a heater in my tank.
<Problem>
I do have 2 little sucker fishes
<Mmm, what species? Please see WWM re CAEs, the genus Gyrinocheilus... these could be problematical as well>
in my tank that I've had for about 2 weeks and they are doing just fine. I just don't know what I'm doing wrong to make my Bettas tail's fuse together -Candice
<Need heat... Please read here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner> 

Adopted Betta 3/31/09
Hi guys!
<Hello Erika,>
Alright last week I adopted a Betta from my school. We had been doing behavior experiments on them by seeing how they would react to different drawings, a mirror, the whole bit. We also observed their predation tactics by feeding them mosquito larvae that the professor had bred himself. When I got him, the water he was in was pretty disgusting, but I gave him clean, dechlorinated water, as soon as I brought him back ( did the change over slowly by introducing a bit of water into his bag, etc). Originally he was staying in a little Betta tank because I didn't have anywhere else for him (no heater, etc. terrible I know).
<Yes, terrible. They're tropical fish, and like any tropical fish need filtered, heated water.>
But the plan was that he'd only have to stay in those conditions for 3 more weeks until I finish school and then he'd get a bigger aquarium with a heater. Right from the beginning he seemed very listless.
<I bet.>
He would prop himself up on the little castle I had put in for him and just lie there all day. So after a week I decided, well clearly he's not happy, I'll move him into the bigger aquarium now.
<Good.>
The aquarium I moved him into was holding my goldfish (who I brought home).  It's a 5 gallon aquarium with gravel, some ;larger rocks, live plants, etc, lots to keep a fish happy.
<Lots, except space. You can't keep Goldfish in a 5 gallon tank. Goldfish get really big, 20 cm/8 inches, easily. Minimum sensible size for two is 30 gallons, and a 20 gallon tank would barely be adequate for a singleton.>
I even placed the heater in with him so that the water would warm up progressively with him in it.
<Make sure it doesn't get too warm for the Goldfish.>
He now has a nice big aquarium with warm water and he's still doesn't seem happy.
<Oh? As ever: check water quality and water chemistry. Bettas need zero ammonia and nitrite levels, like any other fish. Water chemistry isn't critical except to say it should be stable. A common mistake is to use water from a domestic water softener, or worse, distilled water. Don't do either of these things! Plain vanilla tap water is usually fine, provided you use dechlorinator.>
He hides all day between the wall and the heater and although he's been eating the past couple of days, today he doesn't seem interested. I also think he might be slightly discolored (seems to be somewhat whitish over his red).
<May be incipient Finrot; review the symptoms, and act accordingly.>
What else can I do?
<Read:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/goldfish101art.htm >
Thanks,
Erika
<Cheers, Neale.>

Female Bettas & Brackish Water 3-28-09
I currently have 4 female Bettas living together in a tank. I have sand substrate and a turtle filter/rock water fall. I also have river rock and slate in my tank. I am looking to get a mudskipper and have recently found out that they are a brackish water fish. Is there any way that I can find a happy medium between the two?
<Hello! Sorry to tell you but Bettas can only handle a little amount of aquarium salt and to have a full brackish tank, a Betta would not survive long. This is largely due to the difference between aquarium salt and the salt used for saltwater tanks. It would be better to setup a brackish water tank for your mudskipper and keep the Betta in his own freshwater home. You are welcome! Merritt A.>

Torgo the Betta update, sys., reading  3-4-09
Hello crew!
<Elspeth>
This weekend I managed to scrape together sufficient funds to buy Torgo a 6 US Gallon tank with a nice BioWheel filter (with adjustable flow so it's nice and gentle) and a heater.
I have it cycling and it is staying around 77 degrees Fahrenheit. In the meantime, I am continuing to change 25% of Torgo's water with a turkey baster every day and am giving him a ~100% water change once a week-- all with unfiltered, treated (dechlorinated) water.
One question:
There are so many products out there that say they will harden my water  (it is oh, so soft at my house).
<Really? How soft is soft? Not water that is "run" through a residential water softener I hope/trust... if so, I'd "go outside", use the tap from a spigot, warm up and use it instead>
What is your favorite product/method to add some minerals to your water?
<Just exposure to natural carbonate material...>
Thanks for all your help and patience!
-Elspeth
<Read here re: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwhardnessfaqs.htm
and the linked files above. Bob Fenner>

Re: Torgo the Betta update - 03/06/09
Oh my gosh! I got a reply from Bob, himself!
Hello again crew!
<Hi!>
I think you'll be happy to know that don't treat our water and the hardness is the same from the tap as it is from the hose:
4dKH and 17.9ppm
I used the API Aquarium Pharmaceuticals KH/GH test. From what I've read around, Bettas like "moderate hardness" and I don't think that my water qualifies.
<Bettas will adapt to a wide range of conditions, and in the wild, will be living in fairly soft water, as is common for most (though certainly not all) Southeast Asian fish. However, it is true to say that soft water aquaria can be less difficult to maintain than hard water aquaria, so by default, it's usually best to aim for neutral, moderately hard water conditions if you have the option. This won't harm soft water fish at all, but will resist pH changes much better than soft water will.>
Soft water certainly gives a lovely lather in the shower, but I'm not so sure Torgo will like it.
<It's unlikely to be an issue provided you can ensure pH stays stable;
that's usually the problem with soft water aquaria.>
On the FAQs I read that adding baking soda may be useful. How much per gallon would you recommend?
<I wouldn't recommend adding just baking soda by itself. Instead, I'd use some Rift Valley salt mix, which you can either buy ready made or mix yourself very inexpensively. A classic Rift Valley mix, per 5 gallons (20 litres) is as follows:
1 teaspoon baking soda (sodium bicarbonate)
1 tablespoon Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate)
1 teaspoon marine salt mix (sodium chloride + trace elements)
Since you're not keeping a hard water fish as such, I'd actually start by using one-quarter the amount, stir well, test the water, and see what your water chemistry test kits say. It should be adequate, but if not, perhaps use one-half the amount.>
I also read that someone was adding a chunk o' coral to his freshwater tank-- which was ok by Neale-- since his water needed to be hard and alkaline.
<Crushed coral, as opposed to a dead coral, can be used to buffer the water, but only within certain limits. Firstly, water has to be flowing past the crushed coral, so you have to put the coral inside the filter, often an undergravel or canister filter. Secondly, it's difficult to predict how quickly and how effectively crushed coral will work, which is why it's usually used in large amounts (so it's quick) and in systems where a high pH/hardness is required (so there's no danger of "overdosing"). A Malawi cichlid aquarium is the classic situation. Thirdly, crushed coral has to be regularly cleaned or replaced, else it loses its efficacy. In short, in a small Betta tank, sticking a head of coral in the aquarium is not going to create precise, manageable conditions of the sort you're after. I'd also add that the trade in dead corals is generally considered unsustainable and is illegal in some areas, e.g., Europe, so unless you have access to dead corals from (unsuccessful!) marine fishkeepers, I can't in all honesty recommend anyone use them. Faux corals are just as good looking, don't affect water chemistry, and are not expensive.>
Would this be a possible solution, or is it likely to make the water too hard for a Betta?
<Wouldn't use coral in this system.>
(and how would it go for tetras? My sister has a tank of cute little neon and cardinal tetras over at her place, so I'm curious.) I guess it would depend on the size of the coral chunk, eh?
<Repeat after me: corals do not belong in a freshwater aquarium. If you want corals, either get faux ones, or set up a marine aquarium and keep live ones! There's really no ethically or practically acceptable use for dead coral skeletons in freshwater tanks.>
Ultimately, I think I should look into having a soft water tank after Torgo goes to that big fish tank (or rice field) in the sky, in a few years (since Bettas have fairly short lifespans). If I've got soft water, I may as well use it to my advantage, right? (your Soft Water Aquarium page gave me some food for thought.)
<This is consistently my advice: Learn your water conditions, and choose fish that enjoy them. In soft water areas your challenge is pH stability, so that invariably means using as big a tank as you can afford, and to tend towards understocking it to prevent excessive amounts of decay.>
Thank you for your patience and advice!
Sincerely,
-Elspeth
<Cheers, Neale.>

Betta observations – 2/21/09
Hello Crew!
I know you hear it a lot, but it bears repeating; you guys run an amazing site!! Thank you for providing aquarists of all levels with the information they and their fish (sometimes desperately) need. :)
<Appreciate the kind words.>
I attend an art school in Seattle and we have a studio Betta named Torgo.
We keep him on a small bookshelf in an ~1Gal tank at room temperature and well away from our charcoal and paint! Every morning (Monday through Friday) he gets a few bloodworms and a 25% water change (using a turkey baster to suck up the dirty water at the bottom). There is no aeration or filtration (partially due to lack of a budget and also I noticed that the water movement has torn fins on my own past Bettas). His substrate is glass marbles and has two silk plants, one is fairly tall and a few of its leaves poke out of the water, the other is very low to the ground. Changing them up and moving them around seems to keep him happy and active -- any time I change out a plant, he explores the new addition at length and appears to play in the leaves. Currently he enjoys lounging on top of the tall silk plant and watching us go about our day. When I walk by he immediately swims to the front of his tank, probably hoping for a treat. I test his pH daily before and after every water change. I try to keep it around 7.5 these days.
<Hmm... this fish can't be kept at room temperature, so he WILL get ill.
There's a reason we call "tropical fish" "tropical fish", because they're from the tropics. Last time I checked, Washington State wasn't in the tropics, and room temperature, presumably around an average of 18 C (68 F) will be far too cold. Please, this fish needs a filter and a heater, and there's really no way around either of these things.>
My observation (which you probably already knew about, but I felt proud of myself for figuring it out..) has to do with bubble nests and pH levels.
About a month or two ago, Torgo began making bubble nests (we got him as a wee baby) and I was very pleased! Then a few weeks ago he suddenly was much less active (Torgo is generally very energetic and likes to greet every human being within sight), mildly disinterested in food and stopped making his bubble nests altogether! I had run out of pH test strips, but kept assuming that our tap water (filtered through a Brita pitcher!) always stayed around 7, but when he acted unTorgoish, I realized it was time to get more strips!
<OK. Do use dechlorinator on the tap water. Drinking water isn't the same thing as aquarium water.>
Inside if his tank, after adding about 6 drops of pH up to each 8oz cup of water (I transfer water in plastic cups), the pH was just below 7.
Suspicious, I checked the filtered tap water. It had a pH of 6. Ah ha! More pH up was needed. Torgo's pH is now kept between 7.5 and 8. He is building his nests again and is chipper as ever!
<Why are you adjusting the pH? You certainly shouldn't be adjusting pH if you don't know what the hardness level of the aquarium is. Fish don't "feel" pH and mostly couldn't care less. What they care about is hardness.
Less experienced aquarists talk about (I'd argue, fixate on) pH because it's easy to understand. But it's really a proxy for hardness, with high hardness tending to be associated with a basic pH, and low hardness with an acidic pH. But these are approximations at best. Fish care about STABLE pH levels, and that means the hardness, specifically carbonate hardness, should be adequate. If the pH is dropping between water changes, your aquarium has insufficient carbonate hardness. Usually this is because you're either in a soft water area or, worse, using water from a domestic
water softener. I cannot stress too strongly how much you shouldn't use water from a domestic water softener.>
Well, that was lengthy, but it gave a good picture of Torgo's setup, right?
:)
<Well, yes. But I'll reserve judgment on whether it's what an ideal set-up just yet.>
In summary: if your Betta stops making nests, check his tank's pH levels.
As I said before, this may be common knowledge to you guys, but I feel a little proud of myself -- and, actually, maybe you should be a little proud, too! *I couldn't have troubleshooter this little hiccup without having read your site!* *One very important thing I have learned from you guys is this: if your fish acts a little off, check your water quality first. * *Funky water is the source of most fishy woes (if they have an infection, poor water quality may have been what weakened your fish in the first place!).*
<It's almost certainly nothing to do with the pH. Fish react positively to good conditions, and negatively to poor conditions. Or put another way, if immediately after a water change, and the water gets warmer, loses its ammonia, and gets more oxygen, the fish will perk up. What I think you're seeing is that your fish is happy after a water change, and miserable within a day or two afterwards.>
Well, I'm going to go work on my painting project aimed at raising awareness about the impact humans are having on coral reef populations in Pacific waters!
<Great!>
(Got any suggestions?)
<Please understand that Bettas are tropical fish and need everything tropical fish require. A heated tank around 5 gallons would be my minimum recommendation, together with a simple filter, e.g., an air-powered sponge filter or an undergravel filter. I honestly can't recommend what you're doing now, and feel the pH changes and the variation in behaviour have a lot to do with fluctuations in water conditions.>
Swim long and prosper, -Elspeth
<Qapla' -- Neale>
Neale, please tell me that's not Klingon you're speaking here!! Hahaha...
laughing too hard,
Sara M.
Indeed it is. But since I'd been so hard on this seemingly well meaning human being, I thought I'd be nice at the end. Call it my soft (if slightly geeky) side.
Cheers, Neale

Re: Betta observations  (Brita filters, pros/cons)    2/23/09
Hi Neale,
<Elspeth,>
Thanks for the feedback/mild (and well deserved) scolding.
<Always up for a good scolding.>
I am going to go get a *full* water testing kit (one that will also measure the hardness of my water) soon after sending this email.
<Very good. The three kits everyone needs are nitrite, pH, and carbonate hardness. They'll let you measure everything that matters the most.>
Something I think I forgot to mention: I always use a dechlorinator after using the Brita pitcher, and I use the Brita pitcher because the tap water of my school has a lot of rust and other questionable chemicals in it.
<Brita filters are mostly carbon as I recall, albeit very expensively packaged carbon. So they do a good job of removing of organic materials but have little/no effect on inorganic materials. The manufacturers maintain it removes some chlorine but explicitly states that it doesn't remove all the chlorine, and they don't remove chloramine at all, so your use of dechlorinator is wise. Brita also state that their filters reduce carbonate hardness (what they call "temporary hardness") and this is the stuff that buffers against pH changes. For most aquarium fish, a level of 4-6 degrees KH is about right, towards the higher end of things like livebearers and Goldfish especially. Reducing the carbonate hardness would serve no practical purpose in your system, and indeed would make it more prone to pH changes. All things considered, I'd strongly suggest not using Brita-filtered water. Dechlorinated tap water is perfectly acceptable for almost all tropical fish. I notice reading over the Brita web site (I do my research!) they recommend against using Brita-filtered water in a tropical aquarium without consulting an expert first. Well, I'm an expert, and I'm recommending you not to use it!>
After I sent the previous email, I clicked around WWM, reading up more on Bettas-- a fish which I had (embarrassingly) assumed that I knew all about since I had an apparently healthy guy. (Here I am, yapping away about how much I know when I really had no idea what I was talking about... I feel silly!)
<Well, you know now!>
Anyway, the next day, I went out and got Torgo more food items since variety is, indeed, the spice of life. I plan to get him some live foods once I get him set up in a proper tank.
<Cool.>
Along with the aforementioned *full* water test kit I plan to get a 5G tank with a sponge filter and a heater.
<He'll be much happier. Add a few cherry shrimps and some floating plants, and you'll have a lovely little underwater world.>
I also have a 10G which will become available at the end of March and I think it's got his name on it! (Once he moves into that one, he's just going to live with me at my house, I think. With warm, potable tap water).
<Most any tap water is safe for fish. Dechlorinator handles most problems you're likely to come across: copper, chlorine, chloramine. Beyond those, there's nothing else to worry about. There's a lot of hype about the "badness" of tap water, but it's actually just fine and dandy. Spend less on Brita and a bit more on things like heating and filtration, and your fish will be much happier.>
Thank you for the reality check!
humbly yours,
-Elspeth
<Happy to help, Neale.>

I have a question about my Betta. Beh./sys./fdg./hlth.   02/08/09
Hi,
<Ave,>
About a week and a half ago I bought my first Betta. He is in a 2 gal tank with an under gravel filter, and a small heater. When I first got my Betta, I noticed he was extremely sluggish, and that he would not eat his food. I looked it up on line and decided to buy a heater ( thinking that the temperature might be a problem). I have had the heater in for 4 days now (the temperature is kept at 79°F), but he still rarely ever eats.
<Ah, if kept "cold" (i.e., below 25 C/77 F) for more than a few days, the damage may already be done...>
I also bought frozen blood worms, thinking that the problem may be he just didn't like pellets. However, this didn't help either. In the past couple of days I have noticed that his face seems to be losing color. He is a bright red crown tail Betta with very bright violet dots on his body and streaks throughout his tail, however over the past few days his face is increasingly becoming white. When I first bought him I noticed a few dark spots on his body but thought nothing of. I have tried everything I could think of, and do not know what else to do. The water was treated with Top fin Beta Water Conditioner, and the aerator was ran for about 2 hours before he was introduced to the tank. I am extremely concerned about him. Earlier today I decided to put a mirror up to the tank to see if he would even react to his reflection; he didn't. He just laid at the bottom of his tank, nose down, like he usually does. I rarely see him swim. Please help me, I don't know what the problem is.
Thank you,
Mercedez (Texas)
P.S. He is the only fish in the tank. I was also wondering if it would be a good idea to get a snail to help with the left over food.
<There shouldn't be any leftover food. Mercedez, it's almost certain there is an environmental issue here. Very small tanks -- in the case of Bettas, anything less than 5 gallons -- are difficult to maintain. While you sometimes here of them kept in pots and jars, what you don't appreciate is that the water in these containers is changed at least daily. Moreover, the room they're kept in is a super-warm hot-house specially designed for keeping tropical fish, so that chilling isn't a problem. Do a water test: test for ammonia and/or nitrite, and then get back to me. Without that piece of information, I can't say anything specific, though the odds are that the fish is exposed to high levels of ammonia. Certainly don't add any food! Read on WWM about cycling aquaria and maintaining good water quality. I cannot stress this point strongly enough: Bettas aren't novelties, they're animals, and like any animal have a very specific list of requirements. Among them is heat, clean water (i.e., zero ammonia and zero nitrite), and enough space that pH remains stable between water changes. Always remember to use dechlorinator, and never use water from a domestic water softener. Cheers, Neale.>

Very confused about what our new Betta fish needs for optimum life 12/30/08
Hi there --
"Santa" brought us a Betta for Christmas and I am now taking a crash course in fish care. After reading yours and several other sites, as well as visiting our local aquarium store and Petco, I am in deeply confused. Mr. Betty is now in an approximately 3.5 gallon tank with shiny rocks at the bottom, three live plants (no idea what kind), an under-the-rocks heater,
and a charcoal filter that looks like it should be attached to an air pump.
We're treating the water with API Stress Coat. My questions are:
1. What kind of heater should we have? Our current heater keeps the tank at about 80 degrees or so, with the overhead light on pretty much constantly.
<This is fine>
Last night we left the light off and the temp slipped about 3 degrees.
<Acceptable>
Can you recommend specific brands and/or types of heaters as both the Petco and aquarium store folks thus far seem to not know that Bettas are different from other fish ("you don't need a heater for these fish!")
<Mmm, do need tropical temperatures... Hydor is one brand, manufacturer of small wattage heaters one can find around, on line if not at stores>
2. Rocks or gravel?
<The latter is preferable... more beneficial bacteria habitat, and less gaps for food and wastes to fall into>
It seems like my plants need to be "planted" in some sort of more permanent soil-like material. And then there is something I read about a beneficial bacterial bed forming under the gravel ... Again, can you please recommend a specific brand of gravel we should have, if gravel is what we should be doing. And, how does one keep that gravel clean, or should I worry about that?.
<Develop a routine of regular maintenance... including the use of a small size gravel siphon. Weekly partial water changes.>
3. I know the water needs to be filtered, but with what? Wouldn't an air pump and bubbles be stressful for the Betta?
<Not too stressful>
What is a passive filter?
Again, please recommend specific brands of filters as this part is really confusing to me.
<A small hang on powerfilter might be better for your use here... There are many brands, makes... See the term in your search tool, or look on the big website (e.g. Doctors Foster and Smith, Custom Aquatic...)>
4. After day three in the new tank with the plants, rocks, filter, and light that is on just about all day, the tank is looking a bit cloudy. I am confused about whether this is a good thing (tank getting established) or a bad thing (too much food -- likely as the kiddos have been both feeding which is something I put a stop to tonight).
<Not good... in that the system is cycling, perhaps some by products that you don't want...>
Do I leave it be or do a
partial water change (which I already have -- about 1 gallon or so)? Turn the light off?
<I would leave the light on a regular cycle... Do change out a good part of the water if it "smells" bad>
5. We are all so desperately in love with our new little guy, Mr. Betty, and want to do what is best for him. Any other recommendations?
<Mmm, yes... for you to read. Start here:
http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/betta_splendens.htm
and the linked files above>
Thank you so much in advance for any help you can give us.
SWCaryn
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>
<I've modified your stated name and we don't publish addresses unless specifically requested to, nor do we "hold onto them"... Hence, please include previous correspondence (if pertinent) when writing back.
BobF>
Wait! YIKES! I don't think I want my name and address on your website, do I? I'm a newbie to this whole
sending-questions-for-posting-on-websites-thing too!! I don't remember how other people were signing their questions. My email address is XXXX. Maybe I should sign this question with "SWCaryn." Well, could I ask yet another favor and have you pick whichever way I should sign my name -- whatever most people do is good with me.

Re: very confused about what our new Betta fish needs for optimum life 12/31/08
thank you so very, very much! We've taken your recommendations to the Petco and are now fully stocked and ready to go. Spent $100 on a $3 fish ... the things we do for love of our children (and I suppose fish too).
Caryn
<Hello Caryn. It is universally true with pet animals that their initial price of ownership bears little to no relationship to how much they cost to maintain. Goldfish and Bettas are both good examples of this, with many pet owners assuming that because they cost a few pennies, maintenance will be low cost as well. Broadly speaking, $100 is probably the average "starting price" for a small aquarium once you factor in a 20 gallon tank, a heater, an adequate filter, and some decorative materials. Smaller, cheaper tanks are usually money down the drain, so I rarely recommend people buy them:
what's the point of a $30 3-gallon aquarium if it can't actually house any fish for any length of time? May as well get a glass vase and keep some cut flowers! In any case, now you have a good aquarium for your Betta, as your skills develop you may decide to expand your hobby. While Bettas make poor tankmates for community fish, there's nothing to stop you mixing them with things like Cherry Shrimps or Nerite Snails. If the tank is 10 gallons in size or more, then certain fish could be added, among the best tankmates being Kuhli Loaches, assuming the tank has a lid to stop these brightly coloured eel-like fish from wriggling out! Do read this month's CA Magazine: we have a couple of articles of value.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_5/volume_5_3/betta.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume_5/volume_5_3/stocking.htm
Cheers, Neale.>

"Betta Gift" Questions  12/5/08
For a late Christmas present I'm giving one of my friends a purple Betta fish in a bowl. Though I am keeping it until the 31st to see if the fish will make it. I used seed gravel from the aquarium shops tanks, to help with cycling- set up the bowl and everything the night i brought it all home.
<Dismal... Betta bowls are death traps... won't live for long. Save your money and buy something else, maybe a pot plant. If you can't/won't buy an aquarium with a heater and a filter, of volume 5 gallons or more, then don't keep Bettas. All you're doing is buying something in the certain knowledge it will suffer and die.>
Its 68 in the house and my step mom doesn't tolerate warmer temps ( Has MS)
<Too cold; needs 25 C (77 F) minimum. These are called "tropical fish" for a reason -- they come from the tropics. If they came from coldwater environments we would call them "coldwater fish". But we don't. That's a clue! Needs a heater, or it will gradually lose condition, starve, get sick, die.>
The bowl it is in is about a 1/2 gallon in size, and I don't think any heater will heat it safely.
<Betta bowls are useless purchases, end of story, no further discussion.>
Should I upgrade to a bigger bowl, the bowl the fish was in one even smaller then now- (The friend of mine lives in a group home and the people there will only let her have a small bowl)
<She should not, cannot keep fish then. That's all there is to it. Buying a bigger bowl is essentially asking what colour coffin the poor Betta would like to be fitted up for. Bowls cannot work for pet Bettas. What you likely don't understand is that Betta breeders using bowls replace the water daily and keep the bowls in heated (hot-house) fish rooms so the water is automatically kept at the necessary 25-30 C (77-86 F). If you aren't prepared to keep the room that hot, and can't replace the water (completely) every single day, then a Betta bowl IS NOT VIABLE. For most aquarists, there is absolutely no point wasting your money on these bowls.
The vast majority of Bettas kept this way die within weeks.>
What about a heat pad, like the kind that make your hands warm?
<Not adequate.>
I've tried feeding the Betta floating pellets but the Betta shunned eating this morning, its fins are clamped slightly and it spends a lot of time on the bottom, slightly moving every now and then like its stalking things.
<He is dying. You are keeping this fish in inappropriate fish, killing it by inches. I'm sorry there's no nice way of putting this, and In do respect the fact you are trying to provide someone with a thoughtful gift. But what you are doing is killing this fish, and there's no way to candy coat it.>
It comes up for air like normal though and seems to be more active at night then during the day. Right now there are no plants in with the Betta, just water and gravel, which was more then before. I skipped plants as I do not have a light source for them, all my fake plants are too big for bowls. I know Bettas like plants however.
<Gravel, plants of secondary importance here. Water volume, heater and filtration are the issues that matter.>
What should do?
<Take the fish back. You are not keeping it the correct way, and if you insist on keeping it thus, it will be dead, soon. A basic 5 gallon tank with a heater and filter is what you need; anything less WILL NOT WORK.>
thanks.
<Cheers, Neale.>

Betta set-up and filtration 11/28/08
Hello, there.
As someone new to the fish-keeping community, I would like congratulate you all on such a great site. I'm glad I've found you guys so early on, as I've got some really good advice from here - a tank of healthy fish at home can attest to that.
<Thanks for the kind words.>
Flattery aside, I have a question about Betta fish. I'm about to purchase a small tank in which to keep a Betta, and, being a conscientious keeper, I would like to make it the happiest and healthiest fish I can. I've decided on a 9 US gallon / 7.5 UK gallon (35L) tank with a 50w heater.
<Should be just dandy, provided the ONLY fish in the system. Few, if any, other fish work well in such small systems.>
The model is an Arcadia Arc (16" x 11") which comes with an Arc Classica 7w power filter, which, according to the blurb, cycles around 380L (100 US gallons) an hour. This seems to be a little strong for this fish, which I've read prefers a rather low-flow filter. Chuck there recommended in an FAQ a Marineland Penguin model that cycles 30 to 50 gallons an hour.
However, I can only find the 100B model, which, again, cycles 100 gallons an hour. Are very low-flow filters available?
<With Bettas, it's invariably best to go with air-powered filters. Cheap and easy to maintain, and they provide just enough water movement. Betta splendens comes from still water habitats such as rice paddies. Even before we messed around with it, it wasn't adapted to fast currents. After centuries of breeding we've given the thing ridiculously long fins that massively increase drag, so the thing can barely move now.>
What do you think the ideal filtration solution is for this fish in a tank this size?
<I'd get a bubble-up box filter (about 8 cm cubed) and fill it with filter floss and some ceramic noodles or even pea gravel. Connect to a small air pump. Problem solved.>
Also, would the filtration needs change if somewhere along the line I wanted to introduce a couple of small catfish?
<You're not going to do this, so forget about it. No catfish traded will work in a tank this small. Even mini species like Corydoras hastatus will need 10 Imperial gallons or more.>
On a different matter, as a Londoner, the water comes out of the tap or faucet very hard with about 20ppm of nitrate and a pH of 8.0. I would like to make sure that these parameters will be fine for the fish, and if they're not, would do you think can be done about it from the outset?
<Not a problem. Your Betta will thrive in "London tap", or Liquid Rock as its known to the hobby...>
Many thanks in advance,
Neil
<There's a couple great articles in this month's Conscientious Aquarist right up your street, so do have a read. One's on Bettas, the other on stocking small tanks.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/CAHomepage.htm
Good luck, Neale.>

Re: Betta set-up and filtration 12/01/08
Excellent! Thank you for the prompt reply and for preventing me making a big mistake with the catfish. I had heard that Bettas can work with other placid fish, but missed the part where that would have to be in a much larger aquarium. Just the Betta and the bubble-up box it is.
Thanks again
Neil
<Sounds great. By all means add some Cherry Shrimps and novelty snails such as Nerites if you want a little more activity. Enjoy your fish! Cheers, Neale.>

Setting up new Betta tank  11/19/08
Hello, Crew!
You've been a great resource and I need your help one more time.
<Thanks for the kind words.>
I am setting up a 10 gallon tank at work and plan to get a Betta(s).
<A perfect size for these wonderful fish.>
Someone who had dealt with Bettas before told me that I can get two-three females in addition to the male.
<In theory yes, but in practise, only worth doing if you have another tank you can remove the male to if necessary. Make no mistake: once the male is guarding his nest, he will view any other fish, including female Bettas, as threats. He can/will kill them. Sexually mature males will also harass females that are not "ripe" with eggs, ready to spawn. To be honest, I wouldn't do this. If you want a busy tank, then choose tankmates suitable for this size tank. Cherry shrimps for example. Kuhli loaches are also great with Bettas.>
But, reading about how territorial and aggressive Bettas can be, I have my doubts. Please let me know if there is such thing as big happy Betta family.
<No. Males form their own "families" with the eggs and fry prior the fry becoming free swimming. Otherwise, these fish definitely territorial loners.>
I put about 3 gallons of tap water and one gallon of an established tank's water (from home) and will let it sit until after Thanksgiving, and then plan to add fish. So the 10 gallon tank is about half full ~ should I add more water from the old tank?
<Water carries no filter bacteria, or virtually none anyway. So do what you want with it, it'll have NO affect on cycling the tank (i.e., maturing the filter). If you have an established tank, then take MEDIA from the filter in the established tank and put in the new tank's filter.>
The temperature stays pretty much around 70F and no drifts here - do you think I still need a heater?
<Yes, far too cold. Bettas need 26-28 C (79-82 F). Vast numbers of Bettas die from being kept in unheated tanks. Here's the rule: Do you live in tropical Southeast Asia? If the answer is "yes", then by all means keep your Betta in an unheated tank. If the answer is "No", then you need a heater.>
Is the filter necessary for this size tank?
<Yes.>
I do have gravel, decorations and silk plants already and plan to get live plants as well, so there should be enough hiding places.
Thank you for your help.
~Yana
<Hope this helps, Neale.>  

Betta 11/13/08
I am new to the Betta fish thing. I have been reading lots of good tips and info on your site - its a great site by the way. Anyhow I know I can Google this stuff but I wanted to get a real opinion from a trust worthy person.  I have my Betta in a 1 gal. oval tank, 1 fake plant and blue rocks at the bottom....He was the most gorgeous male at Petco; a teal green Delta Tail and when I first got him he always had his fins fanned out and swam around all pretty...but now after having him a month or so "Spark" (is his name) is making bubbles like normal at the top of his tank, but his fins are pointed straight out and look stiff, he has a hard time turning cause they're stiff and he just lays at the bottom of his tank? :(  My question(s) is:? What is a good set size tank & set up for a Betta??
What is going on with his fins?? His fins are still long but he CANT fan them out anymore.
Thanks,
Candice
<Candice, the bottom line with Bettas is that -- despite what the retailer might suggest -- they are really just regular fish. They need an aquarium with a heater and a filter. The bigger the aquarium, the easier it becomes to keep them healthy -- and I don't mean slightly easier, I mean dramatically easier! So, bottom line, I'd recommend the following: a 5 to 10-gallon tank, a heater, and a simple filter. Air-powered sponge and box
filters are best, since Bettas don't want a huge amount of water current, just good water quality. But a small internal canister filter (like an Eheim Aquaball) set to its lowest flow setting would be a reliable and low maintenance alternative. I'd avoid hang-on-the-back filters because Bettas are prone to jumping, so anything that involves leaving the top of the tank open is just asking for trouble. You don't need a light or fancy hood though, a simple piece of glass cut to size will do the trick great. If you want a light, then by all means get a hood with a light installed. Decorate the tank with a bit of plain gravel at the bottom (the darker the substrate, the better the colours on your fish will be) and add a few plastic plants and ornaments. Avoid coloured gravel: fish tend to react badly to unnatural colours, and frequently adjust their colours to try and "blend in". If you want tankmates, stick with snails and shrimps, not more fish. Keep the tank at around 25-28 degrees C (that's about 77 to 82 F). Do weekly water changes of around 25%. Follow this advice and your Betta should stay healthy. Normally when Bettas sit at the bottom of the tank it's because they're too cold or the water quality is poor. If things don't change, the fish will eventually get sick, displaying the symptoms of diseases like Finrot and Fungus. Cheers, Neale.>

Female Betta Tank 11-03-08
Hi! I've been reading the betta-related questions, but did not see the answer to my question (sorry if I missed it). I just introduced four female Bettas together and I guess they're establishing pecking order (I've only had male Bettas before and never had them in the same tank). How long should I wait before I start pulling fish out? As far as I can tell, there is one always-submissive one but the other three are working it out. The tank is ten gallons, heated, but is divided into two sections by a plastic, flow-through divider - eight gallons for the females and two gallons for the male with plants and hiding spaces on both sides. Speaking of the male, is it okay that he can see the females? He spends about 1/4 of the time displaying and charging the divider - I finally put some cloth in between the male and female side so the females could focus on establishing order and not trying to get to the male at the same time. Was that a smart move? Should I move the Betta back to his 2.5 gallon tank even though the only heater I can afford does not keep the temperature steady in that small of a tank? Thanks for reading this long email!
<Glad you have found the site. Female Betta tanks are slightly difficult to keep. This is mainly due to females from a different spawn will continue to fight more than females from the same spawn. A pecking order will be established with the females and some fin nipping will continue. But, since you have the male next to them competition could occur and delay your females from ever getting along. It would be best to take the male out of the other side of the tank. And it was smart of you to put that cloth in between the male and the females. About the heater with the male's tank, how cold does it get in your home at night? If the temperature stays above 74 degrees Fahrenheit he should be fine. If you are determined to keep your male and females in the same tank, you could
easily make a divider that does not allow the male to see the females. But that is extra work on your part. Have any more questions don't be afraid to email! Merritt A.>

Betta Bungles  9/5/08
Hi WWM,
<Hello,>
I'm a very new and very anxious Betta owner. I actually have only had my Betta, from the local pet store for four days and am a bit worried about him. When I got him, he was kept in this little glass jar next to countless other male Bettas.
<The standard way they are sold. But do understand that they cannot easily be kept this way, and arguably shouldn't be kept this way at all. Like ALL fish, they need clean water. If you keep a Betta in a bowl or jar, you have to replace most of that water at least once a day. On top of that you need to make sure that the old water matches the new water in terms of pH, hardness, and temperature. Finally, the water needs to be warm (around 25 degrees Celsius) and unless you have a room kept at that temperature (which would be pretty darn hot!) the bowl will need an electric heater. Consequently, for virtually all aquarists, and definitely all inexperienced aquarists, Bettas are best kept in regular tanks with filters and heaters. The tank needn't be huge, 18 litres/5 gallons being ample for a single Betta, and leaving space enough for a few snails or shrimps.>
He is a red and blue mix and very eccentric. I only have the little bowl for him right now, but am picking up a one gallon bowl as soon as possible, I can't support a full tank as I live in a college dorm.
<I hate saying this, but you can't keep this fish. A one-gallon bowl is too small for the reasons outlined above. You won't be able to keep him warm enough, and maintaining good water quality will be next to impossible. Please understand that a Betta is a fish, not a pet rock, and has requirements for health. If you ignore them, the animal will suffer and eventually die. There's no two ways about this.>
Seraphim has been very lethargic, hanging out at the bottom of his bowl only coming up for air, and only just began eating two days ago.
<Likely too cold. Bettas are tropical fish, and need tropical heat. That means 25 C (about 77 F). It is extremely unlikely a dorm room will be maintained this 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. As the fish is cold, its metabolism is slow, so all its processes, such as feeding and behaviour and immune response will be slower than they should be. Eventually, it will sicken and die. It can't extract essential nutrition properly from its food, and its immune system can't combat opportunistic infections.>
Today, I noticed that he has been listing to one side and white splotches have grown on his
chin and behind the gills.
<Here we go... this is almost certainly Fungus and/or Finrot. These are opportunistic infections caused by microbes that ordinarily do no harm (and actually much good) in healthy tanks. A combination of poor water quality and low temperature will depress the fish's immune system and damage tissues, opening them up to infections from outside. These microbes can then take advantage of the lack of immune response to feed on the tissues in the fish. Death inevitably follows without treatment and improvement in living conditions.>
In addition, his tail is always clumped, almost twisted. Rarely are his fins spread out, although I suspect that it may be due to the cramped spaces.
<He's too weak.>
Even more alarming, he banged his head repeatedly against the side of the seashell I placed in with him so he could play with it.
<With the exception of the (apparently very smart) Mormyridae, fish don't appear to play. So try and think like a fish, not a person! What fish need is healthy living conditions first, and then a complex environment with hiding places, swimming space, and structures to explore for food. But right now, these are secondary to water quality.>
I made sure it had been cleaned with hot water and it has been dry for close to two months before that, in an airtight environment.
<All fine and dandy, but not enough.>
I switch his water 25% and 75% on alternate days, making sure to used the water conditioner to rid the room temperature tap water of chlorine.
<Not good enough. Have you check the ammonia level in the bowl? I bet it's pretty high.>
His bowl sits right under my lamp at night when I do work and it heats the water up that way.
<Nope, doesn't work. The heat from a lamp only warms the surface, and without circulation, the bottom stays cold. Moreover, this is an incredibly expensive way to (try to) warm up the tank, wasting money. Repeat after me: tropical fish come from the tropics, tropical fish come from the tropics.>
Is there anything I should know before I go to the local Petco tomorrow?
<An aquarium with a heater and a filter. Period, end of debate.>
I have read that Maracyn I and II are helpful against fungal infections.
<Yes they are. But these only fix the infection; they don't stop it happening again. You MUST improve the environment.>
I also hope to be able to pick up Aquarisol, aquarium salt, BettaMax and a thermometer along with the bowl.
<The thermometer is certainly useful. The "BettaMax" is useless and salt is irrelevant if you fix the living conditions. No idea what "Aquarisol" is, and consequently is almost certainly not relevant here. You need the following: A 5 gallon tank. A heater. A filter. You can add other stuff to the shopping list if you want. But those things are essential. Leave even one of them off and THIS FISH WILL DIE. Because Bettas like to jump, I'd recommend a tank with a lid, but that's about the only optional item. Please understand that you are WASTING money buying remedies and junk like BettaMax if you don't fix the environment. The companies that make stuff like BettaMax depend on the fact that there are lots of people who think it's better to spend $5 every few weeks on their magic potions instead of $20 up front to buy a decent aquarium. I have no objections to people wasting money because they fall for fancy marketing (my house is full of stuff I don't actually need!) but there's an animal's welfare at stake here. So we need to be serious. This fish is already sick, almost certainly because the environment, from a Betta's perspective, stinks. That's the ball game here, not the magic potions and powders. Yes, you will need to treat with Maracyn to fix the infection on its head, but you also need to put the poor creature in a proper aquarium. If you can't do that, get something that doesn't need this level of care, like a cactus. It's really as simple as that.>
Anxiously waiting,
J.
<Done my best to help! Cheers, Neale.>

My new Betta fish, sys. mostly   9/1/08
Hi!!
<Hello,>
I just moved out of my house for the first time, (I’m a university student) and I was missing my cat so I decided to buy a Betta fish less then a week ago.
<OK>
I just moved from a small town to a large city and the pet store I got my fish from treats their fish way better then any other place I’ve ever been. In fact I picked my fish out not based on color (as I originally had intended) but because he was so active and seemed so healthy. The fish at the pet stores in my home town are so lethargic and boring. I only wanted a Betta fish because they were pretty. Needless to say I have fallen in love with my Ulmo’s personality.
<Well, I do like the name, being a bit of a Tolkien fan.>
Even so I never knew until I went onto you site that Betta fish should have more living space!!
<Indeed so. The more the better, but something like 20-30 litres is fine, and will leave a little space for fun critters such as cherry shrimps and snails.>
Ulmo is really active, energetic and he seems to recognize me.
<Quite probably. Fish intelligence is substantially higher than the general public assumes. Many tropical fish have been widely used for all types of animal behaviour experiments because of their combination of small size and complex behaviour.>
I have a live plant in his tank that he loves to play with (he even gets stuck in it sometimes) He has a large bubble nest in the corner of one tank and he flares when I show him a mirror. (I don’t like to do it that often as it takes him awhile to calm down)
<As you observe, a little stimulation is a good thing, but giving him some down time is important too.>
His tank however is only 2L (1/2 a gallon –I’m Canadian) and I don’t have a heater. (which was kinda stupid of me Duh! my fish comes from Thailand –its tropical)
<Ah yes, they do indeed need warmth, and a lot of it. You're aiming for 25 C, and in particular a pocket of warm muggy air on top of the tank. If the air is cold, they tend to get sick more easily.>
Anyway I just moved Ulmo’s tank from the window, put a lamp over his tank (for the plant) and turned up the heat in my room.
<Do be careful: an uncovered tank is an accident waiting to happen. Bettas are notoriously good at jumping.>
Will he be ok for the next couple of weeks until I get some cash to buy him a larger tank and a heater?
<In the very short term, you might be fine. Here in England I have my heaters turned down for summer simply because the alternation of warm days and cool nights is good for the fish and encourages many species to breed. But the smaller the tank, the more rapid this change, and in half a litre of water that's going to cool down almost as fast as a hot cup of tea! Conversely, it could warm up horribly quickly in direct sunlight. So avoid draughts (which would chill the thing) and direct sunlight (which would boil it). But once daytime temperatures get below 18 C, the poor little Betta will feel his immune and digestive systems packing up, and that's the slippery slope to death.>
It’s September right now and the climate where I am is fairly mild still.
<OK. Well, I suspect you have a shopping list already worked out. Do look about in thrift stores and the like; you can get some bargains on used equipment. Sometimes aquarium shops sell old stuff too, for example ex-display tanks and filters. Definitely worth exploring.>
Thanks for your input!!
<Most welcome, Neale.>
Tip for anyone reading this: research your fish before you buy!!
<Our family motto.>

Betta Doesn't Like His Cave - 7/2/08
Hello
<Hello Helen!>
thanks for taking my question.
<Thanks for your appreciation!>
I am a new beta mom, and have a happy little guy (so far)
he is in a 1 gallon tank that has an air pump and lamp. (Bernie's Betta Cove)
<1 gallon is a passable home for a Betta, and much better than a bowl or cup, but he'd really love a nice 2 or 5 gallon aquarium. A filter of some sort would be good, and a heater is a must with these fish, unless the ambient room temperature is high- 78-80 degrees Fahrenheit.>
I've read that betas like having a cave to hide in, so I gave my finned friend a porcelain tea cup (no sharp edges, and water proof) sitting sideways.
He has totally ignored it. Is it because it is white and is too bright? I put some gravel in it so he can see he can go in it, but after 1 week, he has not even tried to go in it.
The cup is big enough to accommodate him w/ his fins flared, so I am at a loss as to why he is not interested.
<Not a natural cave- and a bit shallow, so he'll feel like a cornered animal.>
Shall I just remove it to give him back his space?
<I would>
Should I try a silk plant instead?
<Some silk plants- or live ones- might be appreciated. Just stay away from any that have places his fins could get caught or torn>
(I only run the air pump for 1 hr a day, and also keep it at a fairly
low flow, so as not to make the water too turbulent)
<Air bubbling really isn't necessary, as surface exchange of gas will provide plenty of oxygen. This is especially true if you were to add a small filter, set to a low current, which would gently circulate top and bottom water. In addition to opercular gills, Betta spp. are Anabantoid fish, which means they have a very small lung in the forehead region- this allows them to both make the bubble nests we are familiar with, as well as get at least some of their oxygen needs directly from the air in potentially hypoxic situations.>
thanks for your thoughts
<No trouble. Enjoy your new friend, if you haven't give the Betta habitat articles, FAQ on wetwebmedia.com a read.>
Helen
<Benjamin>

Re: moving Betta   6/1/08
Hello again, my question I was trying to ask from before was how would I put my Betta into his new ten gallon tank without stressing or killing him. Should I put some of his water from his small 5 liter tank that I hospitalized him in?
<No.>
I don't want to shock him at all. When I did put him in this hospital tank he was stressed out very much so.
<Likely being trapped in a 5-litre tank did that.>
What should I do to safely introduce him into his new tank.
<Variation of the drip method, ideally. Place the fish in a bucket containing "old" water. Over 30-60 minutes add small portions of water from the new tank into the bucket. Then use a net to move the fish from the bucket to the new aquarium.>
What should be done so he doesn't go into shock.
<Minimise temperature and water chemistry differences; ensure water quality in new tank is optimal and the filter mature.>
I already have a heater, filter and conditioned water. Thanks a lot for your help.
<Cheers, Neale.>

I just got <sic> 4 betas, Reading, using WWM    5/4/08
Hello,
<Hi>
I just saved 4 beta fish from being flushed and need some help. They were in pretty bad shape when I got them, in small plastic bowls soo dirty you couldn't see through them. I bought 4 - 2 gallon tanks with air filters that have what looks like a rock at the end of a hose. Is this an ok filter system for them?
<Can't discern what this is from your description. Read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm
these systems are heated?>
I let the tanks run 48 hours
<... not cycled?>
before moving them into it and put them in small bags with their original water and let them float as well slowly adding water before I put them into the tanks. I followed every step that each site I looked up recommended. They were sick when I got them, which was easy to spot, and I just wanted to see if you could give me any help before I go any further.
<Help yourself... Read>
Fish 1 - Is absolutely beautiful with the largest fins I've ever seen on a beta. Could this mean he is older than the others?
<Possibly>
He just lies listlessly on the bottom of the tank and when he does swim to the top for air he swims straight up to the top but he seems to be struggling. After a minute or so he just sinks back down to the bottom. He shows no visible signs of sickness, and I treated him with a small dose of general cure following the directions, but no change. His water, as all the other tanks, is at 78 degrees. (I am trying to find small heaters for their tanks). Turning on the light helps raise the temp, but I've read the light is bad for sick betas. His ph is 7.0, as all the others are, and any time I do a 25% water change I let the water sit for at least 24 hours.
<Good. I would treat it for sanitizer as well, or store it for a week or more... as is presented on WWM>
I'm not sure about ammonia or nitrate levels, as I just figured that out after reading your website and will go get testers for them. He eats only a little every few days.
<Tropical? If not heated, these fish will languish... >
Fish 2 - Is fun, hungry and playful but shows signs of velvet. I also treated him with general cure, but so far, no change. His tank is the same as all the others. His color is red and I'm not sure what to do.
Fish 3 - I the worst of all. His fins are clamped and he gets scared and jumps when you even go near the tank. He eats a little, but is in bad shape. He has silver spots on his head and belly, and am not sure if he is supposed to be this way or not, as I haven't had him that long. He seems to be very dull in color as well, and hangs close to the top of the tank.
Fish 4 - also shows signs of velvet but seems to be in good health and spirit. He eats well, but his water is cloudier than all the others, although it is cared for the same way. His levels are the same. I can't tell if his one eye is larger than the other but it seems to be. I'm not sure because its hard to get a good look at him, he is pretty active. If he did have pop-eye, could that cause the water to become cloudy?
I know this is alot,
<No such word>
but I just want to give them a good home, and help them get better. Please help if you can.
Thank you so much,
Maureen
<Please read where you're referred. Bob Fenner>

Re: I just got <sic> 4 betas, Reading, using WWM 5/4/08
I'm sorry, my previous email had a typo in it. Here is the corrected version, to save you some editing time.
I saw this email on your daily FAQ's today. I think what Maureen means is that her two gallon tanks came with an air pump, and the "rock at the end of a hose" is an airstone attached to some airline tubing, which means there is no filter. It sounds to me like there is also no heater, but box stores like PetCo and PetSmart sell heaters for those little tanks for between $5 and $10. She can also find affordable HOB or in tank filters there as well. I hope this helps.
Jackie
<Thank you for this input Jackie. BobF>

New Betta tank sprouting hair algae 4/9/08
Hello, I love your site! I have already learned a lot. It was referred to me by a friend who has used your site and has learned a lot as well.
<Ahh!>
That being said I have a question regarding a new Betta tank. I had two Bettas in one gallon aquariums with the light on top. I'd consistently change the water once every week or so and they have flourished very nicely. (I only use reverse osmosis water and I add salt crystals).
<Mmm, better for your Betta... to use about half tap/mains water mixed with the RO... and leave out the salt>
About 2-3 weeks ago I decided to buy a 20 gallon stand alone aquarium and I put a divider in the middle so each of my guys would have 10 gallons!
<Nice!>
This was graduation day not only for my Bettas but for me as well!
<Congrats!>
I filled it up with 20 gals of reverse osmosis water, (yes you should have seen me hauling all of those gallons of water out of Wal-Mart!), I added the salt crystals, put in river rocks and the divider and added my fish. All has been well and my Bettas seen more than happy! But surprisingly, even though these fish were now in so much water I began noticing a quick build up of slime on the top mixed with the bubbles that Bettas like to make. This didn't look too nice so I went to the aquarium store and I bought a small hang-on filter which I attached to one side.
<Good>
Because I have the divider, and I know Bettas don't require a lot of water circulation, I have simply moved the filter back and forth. (this is proving to be a little tedious as the water always looks a little nasty on the top of the side that is not circulating).
<Mmm, perhaps another filter for the other side... or maybe the intake or return to the one can be remoted to the other side... to provide more thorough circulation?>
I'm thinking I may have to start all over as the filter does not seem to be cleaning or circulating the top adequately.
<Well... too early to tell, judge really... there are other means of aiding maintenance, avoiding algal proliferation>
I incorporated some natural plants that I bought from my local aquarium store which may be contributing to the problem.
<Mmm, au contraire... give them time>
My main problem is this: the day before yesterday I noticed that the side of the aquarium which has the most circulation is suddenly sprouting hair algae all over. On the glass, the tops of the river rocks and even the live plants look fuzzy as if they are growing hair algae as well. What's funny is there is no hair algae on the other side of the aquarium with the lesser circulation.
<Interesting. Am wondering if there might be other factor/s at play... perhaps more light... from the sun...>
This morning I also noticed what look like cobweb strings floating in the water or strands of long hair. Not floating on the top but in the body of the water attached at the side and moving around with the movement of the water. In the three years that I've had Bettas and have kept them in 1 gallon aquariums with no moving water I have never seen algae sprout up or had this problem. Because I am new with an actual aquarium I'm lost as to what I should do. What could be the cause of this and what should I do? Help!
Charity
<Let's see... if it were me/mine... I'd consider "going the biological route" a bit further with your set-up/maintenance. Perhaps the addition of some just-sexually reproducing snails... or even Otocinclus... and patience. Do please read here: http://wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/fwalgcontrol.htm
and the linked files above... up to the point you consider that you understand your options... and write back for further input if I/we may be of additional assistance. Bob Fenner>

Betta's Water Level   3/3/08
Dear WWM,
Greetings; I have a Betta for almost three years now. I have him in a 6.6 bookshelf aquarium tank. I noticed that lately he has been having a hard time reaching the top; so I lowered his water level; he seems to be doing better. I also keep the filter and air pump running at a lower force too. My question is, since Bettas originally lived in rice patties isn't it wise to have the water level as low as possible? Or can you tell me how high should the water be? I am concerned because of his age. Thanks in advance for your help. Jean
<Wild Bettas live in rivers and lakes, albeit among the vegetation, and no aquarium is going to be too deep for them. The problem for aquarists is that fancy Bettas have been bred to have very long fins; while pretty, they make it difficult for them to swim. Lowering the water level reduces the amount of water in the tank, and this makes the aquarium less stable in terms of temperature and water quality. In other words, the less water in the tank, the less healthy the environment. So while the fish might be better able to swim to the top, it's also more likely to get sick from environmental issues. My recommendation would be to keep the water at its normal level, but add some tall or floating plastic plants so that the Betta has somewhere to rest. Cheers, Neale.>

Severe Betta Neglect 2-14-08
Hello Crew,
<Hello, Merritt here!>
I'm ashamed to be writing because I've completely neglected the well-being of my Betta while keeping two healthy reef aquariums.
<At least you are trying to fix the Betta now>
My Betta appeared to have cataracts... now, after a long look, my Betta is also bloated and obviously suffering from constipation.
Epsom salt doses will begin immediately.
<The Epsom salt will help with the Betta being bloated and the constipation>
The Betta will be taken off of "Betta pellets" (temporarily) and fed every-other-day sparingly) with adult brine shrimp.
<Adult brine shrimp are not very nutritious unless you are feeding the adult shrimp a vitamin rich diet. I would only feed the brine shrimp for a short while and then continue with the pellets. You could also mix up the Betta's diet with some Mysid shrimp, mine love them!>
The Betta is in a 3 gallon planted tank, kept at 78+ degrees and gets water changes every couple weeks with RO/DI.
<Sounds great! But change the water more frequently, at least until the Betta gets better>
The Betta can see the pellets at this point but it seems the "cataracts" may hinder that in the future.
<Those "cataracts" will clear up when the other ailments are taken care of>
I've included a few pictures that will hopefully help the WWM crew with diagnosis.
<Please resend the pictures, they were not attached to the email. I would like to see your Betta>
Thank you!
<You're welcome! Please don't forget sending the pictures! Merritt A.>

Preparing for a Betta, sys.   2/4/08
Hey WWM crew!
Thank you so much for all the help you've already given me. I search all over when asking fish questions, and yet I almost always find the answers here.
<Ah, good>
You folks helped a lot with what ended up being a failed attempt at starting a 20 gallon aquarium in a place with really hard water (KH ~180ppm, GH ~200ppm, pH ~8.2). I've moved somewhere new with more moderate water (KH ~80ppm, GH ~25ppm), and I'd like to try using my old 2.5gal quarantine tank for a Betta.
<Okay>
Mostly I just want to check in and see if my setup would be suitable, and if I would have any trouble fighting with the local water to make it work. I've tried measuring the pH of some water I let stand for 24hours and found the low range pH test gave me 7.2, while the high range test gave me 7.8 (I'm planning to get a different pH test kit when I get a chance).
<This will work>
As for the equipment the 2.5gal rectangular tank has a thick layer of Eco-Complete gravel (I'm planning on adding a small plant later if possible). I have a 25W heater (since its often under 50 degrees in my house this time of year).
<Brrrrrr!>
I have yet to test how stable this keeps the temperature.
<Should be fine>
I was also wondering about the use a filter on this tank. I have a Whisper 3i filter rated for 1-3 gallons (powered by bubbling the water through). Would it be best not to use it, use it, or get a different filter?
<This will likely do>
Finally the gravel and the tank were in contact with some fish that had ich about 2 years ago. Should I be concerned?
<No>
I read on your site that if heated to 78F the cysts will break out, and failing to find a host fish in 3 to 4 days will die. Would this be an effective means of ensuring the ich is gone, or should I also medicate the water?
<I would simply rinse this gravel and use it>
Thanks again!
Mouse,
<Welcome. Bob Fenner>

Betta... sys.   1/14/08
Hi-
<Hello.>
I have a female Betta fish that is currently living in my heated tank (around 76º) with other fish- would it be possible to transfer it to a bowl
environment that is not heated?
<No. Bettas need filtration and heat, neither of which are present in a bowl.>
It's not doing too well because my other female Betta fish is chasing it around constantly, and I thought that maybe it might help to separate them.
<How big is this tank? It's certainly a fair comment that when kept in tanks 40 litres/10 gallons or smaller Bettas tend to be aggressive towards one another. Adding floating plants may help. Bettas operate on a "line of sight" sort of way, so if they can't see one another, they don't go looking for fights. Because Bettas stay close to the surface, ornaments on the bottom of the tank don't help much, if at all, because the Bettas don't like to be down there all the time. But floating plants (even plastic ones) offer lots more potential.>
I've seen other Betta fish living in bowls
often, but I'm not sure if the change in temperatures would be too much for it in terms of shock.
<I've seen cooked cats (seriously) but this doesn't mean I recommend people eat them. Lots of people keep fish in a bad way, and simply because you see them do it, doesn't mean you should follow suit. Keeping Bettas in bowls is not really fair on them, and doesn't do anything to improve their health or quality of life. At best they die slowly, at worst they die quickly. They are much happier kept in heated, filtered aquaria. Even a small tank (40 litres/10 gallons or less) is viable for male Bettas when kept on their own.>
Thanks for the advice,
Liz
<Cheers, Neale.>

With a very heavy heart... Betta loss, sys.     1/3/08
Hi Everyone,
It is with heavy heart that I write this news. My beautiful, glorious female blue and aqua Betta of 2.5 years drowned in the wee hours this morning. Upon springing Domino from her captive single cup home, she was introduced to a glorious 7 gallon tank, heated, filtered and kept absolutely spotless. A plecostomus on board does his job well and was a fixture of hers for quite a while as she poked around him as if to say 'swim with me'!
My tank has live plants and gravel, one small castle that the Plec. lives in and a big plastic rock that Domino used frequently to freely swim in and out of. As Domino grew she used the larger holes and I didn't think about the smaller ones. To my sadness this morning I could easily tell what had happened. She went in the rock through a large hole and tried to swim out a small hole. Her head and front fins were wedged out so she could not swim forward or backward.
Please heed my warning to avoid sadness in your tank. Do not put decorations with holes into tanks, no matter how safe they "look".
Domino's death was 100% avoidable had I just remembered that fact.
Sincerely,
Elizabeth
<Hello Elizabeth. Your story is very sad, and I do hope others read and act accordingly. I've seen the same thing myself, with a Corydoras getting stuck in a seashell-type ornament. Obligate air-breathing fish like Bettas and Corydoras are at risk from drowning if they get stuck. As you say, such fish are best kept in tanks with very carefully selected ornaments. Cheers, Neale.>

Betta and ADF, sys., RO water use,   11/25/2007
Hello All,
Thanks in advance for the advice. Normally I am asking marine questions, but I have a few probably very silly questions about a Betta tank. I have a six week old, cycled, 3 gallon Eclipse tank with a male Betta and one African Dwarf Frog. Parameters are Ammonia/Nitrite: 0, Nitrate: less than 20, pH: 6.0, and nearly zero on DH and GH. The tank has live plants and a one inch gravel bottom. So, the first question: I use RO/DI water instead of using a conditioner on tap water. Is this okay or are my DH and GH readings too low from filtering out too much?
<Always mix some tap water with the RO water; by itself, RO water isn't acceptable for most fish. Aim for between 5-10 degrees dH. For a Betta, there's absolutely no advantage to using RO water anyway, since these fish are very adaptable and provided extremes are avoided couldn't care less about water chemistry. Moderate hardness and neutral pH is probably the ideal.>
I had assumed the RO/DI was better, plus it is convenient since we have the unit set up for the salt water tank, but now I am wondering.
<Very soft water causes problems with acidification and lack of stability.>
Second question: When I come into work in the morning, the tank is usually around 77 degrees F. With the light on during the day, the temperature usually creeps up to about 80 or 81. Is this too much fluctuation over a 24 hour period?
<It's fine for a Betta. Certainly "within the margin of error" for what a wild Betta would be exposed to.>
Should I try and bump the heater up to keep is closer to 80 at night?
<No point if the fish is otherwise fine.>
Of course then it would still fluctuate up to 83 or 84 in the day then. Third question: I have read your FAQs on ADF, but was still unsure about a few things. I have only one, are they social and should be kept in multiples?
<I think they are better termed "sociable" rather than "social". They don't form schools as such, but provided they aren't overcrowded you can keep several in a tank and not have problems. A gallon of water per frog is often recommended, and seems about right.>
I feed about 2 bloodworms (still need to get other "meaty" stuff, frog is new) every 2 to 4 days. Should this be sufficient?
<Depends on the size of the frog, the quality of the bloodworms being used, water temperature, and so on. Provided the belly is gently convex but not bulging, you're fine. I'd be feeding this half a dozen bloodworms every day and seeing how things go from there. If they get portly on this, skip a day or two per week. If they look thin, I'd feed slightly more food, perhaps across two meals per day. There's no hard-and-fast rule to how much to feed any animal; to some extent you need to observe and react accordingly. Provided you don't give the frogs so much they look like bowling balls with legs, then the issue isn't overfeeding per se, but water quality.>
I know it is hard to say without seeing the frog, but does that sound like a reasonable amount of food?
<A bit too little, too me.>
Any other advice is always appreciated! Thanks!
Michele
<Cheers, Neale.>

Deceased Beta, Getting a New one... env.  11/5/07
Hi!
<Hello>
My family recently owned a purple beta named Cuebert (I don't know what kind of beta he is) who lived in a bowl with a plant on it. (Sorry, I don't know what type it is either, but it used to have white flowers.)
<Not terribly important, but I have to say these vases make terrible Betta homes.>
I found him at the top of his bowl floating like he was standing on his back fin.
While I was looking up diseases, I left him to get some peace. When I checked back on him, poor old Cubie was lying on the bottom, not breathing.
<Sorry>
His color was a little gray, but it had been that way for a while.
Was this a sign of some long-term disease? We had him for 3-4 years, so it might have been old age.
<I would say definitely old age, anything beyond a couple years is quite unusual.>
He was never extremely active, never made a bubble nest, or jumped. Was there something we were doing wrong?
<Not necessarily, but they do need heated, filtered tanks to really thrive.>
If we were to get another beta, where would we get them?
<Most fish or pet supply shops carry them and most come from the same breeders, so where ever you can find a healthy looking specimen.>
Some are half-dead at the time of purchase! :(
<All too common.>
(One last question, sorry this is so long!) Do beta fish need tops on their "houses"? There are a few I saw hat have none.
<They can jump so it is a good idea.>
Thanks so much!!!
-Laura
<For your next Betta I suggest upgrading his home to a small filtered and heated tank, where he can really thrive. Most people consider those vases a death sentence to the fish, although your did quite well.>
<Chris>

GH/KH concern with new Betta – 10/28/07
Hello :),
I have a 6 gallon tank in my office with a heater (80 degree water), an internal filter stuffed with filter floss (for low current), a few Java Ferns, an Anubias, and some Val.s.
<Nice>
I mixed 3/4 R/O water with 1/4 Spring water, and I have had a PH level of 7.2 for a week now. (Without the mixture of water, the PH of my tap water was pretty high at above 8.
<Wow. Liquid rock>
Even the Spring water with the lowest PH reading I found, 7.0, jumped to over 8 in my filtered tank.)
My GH and KH readings are at about 53.7ppm (if I'm understanding the API test kit.)
Some of the articles on the internet seem to indicate that these GH/KH levels are fine, and others would seem to suggest a raising of the GH.
<Mmmm>
I understand that there are products like Kent R/O right and GH Botanica plus from your website. But I know that Bettas like somewhat soft water, and I'd rather not affect my PH if I don't have to, so I'm wondering if I can leave this alone, or if that would be harmful to my new friend over time?
Thank you,
Patricia
P.S. I will be cycling with Bio-Spira, and Thanks for keeping up such a great website!
<Thank you... and I think you are fine here with the calcium and general hardness... for the plants, Betta... I would not change your stated protocol for mixing water. Cheers, Bob Fenner>

Re: GH/KH concern with new Betta – 10/30/2007
Hello,
Thank you so much for your quick response :). It's a scary moment, when you think after weeks of research, you may have actually made things worse for your fish! Thank you for sharing so much of your time with those of us who need it :)
Thanks again :),
Patricia
<Am very pleased to help you, others to improve their experience, the lives to the life in their care. Cheers, Bob Fenner>

My new Betta, sys.   10/19/07
Hi there, I've read through all of your information on Betta, but I want to be sure that I'm providing my little Squishy with the best. I've only had my little guy for three days, and he looks great. His colors look more vibrant than they did when I bought him, he eats well, (maybe too well, after reading some material I've found that I feed him too often, two times a day, 2 pellets, 2 freeze dried bloodworms, but I'll cut down now) he's building bubble nests
<A good sign>
(at first I was worried that there was something wrong with the water, research proved me wrong) swims around happily, and reacts when I interact with him. Anyways, I was wondering how often I should change his water, there are sooo many different opinions as to how often, and I want to make sure I do it right. I was also wondering if he is in too small a container. The container is described as a "large" betta keeper. But all these posts make me feel as though I'm neglecting my Squishy. Thank you, Caryn
<Please read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm
and the linked files above... Best to do such partial change-outs weekly, with pre-stored water... Bob Fenner>

2 questions concerning my betta... sys., comp.  10/1/07
Hi there,
I recently upgraded my Betta's tank size to a 5 1/2 gallon tank from a 1/2 tank. Also I have added two albino Cory catfish as companions.
<Nice!>
My 1st question is about the filter, I'm not sure if it's good for him or needed, or if he likes it. Since most of the time he's been really happy with out one in his small tank before this one. What should I do about the filtration?
<Perhaps a small hang on or in-tank power filter type...>
My 2nd questions is about his companions. I'm starting to think giving him companions in the 1st place was a bad idea. I don't know if he likes them, he seems to avoid them and doesn't like them getting close to him. He doesn't fight them or anything
he just swims away quickly. Should I remove them from the tank and let him have his peace again in the tank, or just wait it out till he gets to know them better?
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
Joe
<I think the Corydoras Cats will be fine companions here... Bob Fenner>

Lethargic Betta, Env. 9/28/07
Could you please advise me regarding my Siamese fighting fish. I have had him for two weeks and have been looking after his water as advised by the pet shop owner. He seems ok - his fins are fine and he swims around and is eating one pellet twice a day. He comes to the top when he hears my voice. Often though I find him sitting at the bottom of the bowl. I thought he was sleeping or resting, but am wondering if he is ill. There are no other symptoms.
Thank you for any help you can give.
Pam
<Is this tank heated? If not he is probably cold, and being a cold blooded animal will be less active.>
<Chris>

Re: New Betta-Kudos to Marineland Pt 2 – 09/19/07
As a PS I went out yesterday and bought 3 more of these little 5 g Marineland Betta tanks & heaters and had a blast setting them up & decorating yesterday. I had to go to 2 Wal-Mart's because I bought out the 1st one. They take up so little space and it's only a 20 oz cup of water to do a water change! (I do the "daily small water changes" on my tanks). It doesn't get any easier than that. I don't understand why only Bettas are sold in those awful little cups and kept in tiny bowls, they're not the only kind of air breathing fish yet the others aren't housed in such an inhumane way.
<The cups aren't as bad as the tiny little sealed pouches some companies ship them in. But in any case, they're shipped like this because 1) they can be and 2) male Bettas can't be mixed in the same bag. Most freshwater fish are shipped in big bags with many of the same kind in one bag. You can't do that with male Bettas. Though, I don't know why the female betas are shipped in cups/pouches.>
I suppose because of their aggressive nature with other fish.
<It's a common misconception that Bettas are as aggressive with other fish as they are with each other. You can actually put a male Betta in a community tank. Problems could arrive if it's a small tank with passive surface dwelling fish, but otherwise they tend to mind their own business.>
I know patronizing Wal-Mart keeps them in business, I wrestled with that. But PetSmart & PetCo & many other places sell them that way, too.
<IMO, Wal-Mart should not be selling fish. I went in there once to find a large goldfish floating dead in a tank with several other fish. There were a couple of girls (employees) standing around looking at and giggling, each saying "there's no way I'm touching that." I grabbed a paper towel from behind them, lifted up the barrier and pulled the fish out and threw it away. I looked at them and explained that you can't leave a dead fish in a small tank like that or else everything will die. One of them just shrugged, thanked me and said they just weren't "that brave." Give me a break!! Ugh. But anyway, there are so many other reasons not to shop at Wal-Mart, but if you want that rant you'll have to email me personally. :)>
I've got almost every kind of pet/livestock (over 50 individual critters total if you want numbers-sigh) and I literally HAVE to patronize these places in order to buy food & supplies for them.
So that's 4 Bettas that will get a good home. The only problem I'm running into is not enough plugs ins but my husband's going to wire some into the walls this week :-)
These places are going to sell these fish whether I buy mine or not, that's just a fact of life.
<Umm... if we're still talking about Wal-Mart, then you might be wrong. Wal-Mart is very careful to protect its profits. If people didn't buy live fish there, it would start losing money on maintenance costs. They'll stop selling live fish as soon as it stops being profitable.>
All I can do is all I can do. And it *does matter to these 4 fish. And it matters to the other fish because of all the people I've talked to about it in my travels in gathering up things to decorate tanks with.
I ADORE these little fish, they're so beautiful. And compared to all the other critters and bigger tanks I've got they're soooo easy to take care of properly. I could do 10 Betta tanks with my hands tied around my back and drink my coffee at the same time before I even start in on the sheep & llama lol
Don't feel you have to print this, I just wanted to follow-up. "Robert" the Betta is doing wonderful, I'd swear his ragged fins are already healing, he swims around constantly. Judging by the way my Oscar is eye-balling him I suspect he thinks it's his lunch.
Thank you for this wonderful sight. If not for this website I'd have never became interested in these little Bettas or known how to care for them.
<glad you found us>
Tom, you'd better get your wife that SW tank in a big hurry or you might find yourself sleeping in a tent in the back yard lol
<Haha... I'll tell Tom you said that.>
Mitzi
<Best,
Sara M.>

My beta is sad! RMF as well... Reading  9/13/07
I just got my crown tail beta 2 days ago. I have a little bow (it's less than a gallon),
<... heated, filtered?>
but is bigger than the tiny cup that I purchased it with.
The first couple of hours my beta was so happy, he was swimming around, checking every rock, every plant.
<Cycled?>
Then I gave him 3 pellets (I bought the same food that they where feeding the betas in the pets store) and after a couple of hours I saw him staying on the top, not moving, does not react at all. Just takes a little breath and stays. On the morning I went to check on him, he was still standing up there. I wanted to make him happy and what is better than breakfast. I was thinking if he eats, means he is ok. I gave him another 4 pallets. Now I know, that was mistake, I gave him too much food.
My poor little guy? is it possible to die? How can I make it better?
<Read...>
I also use bottled spring water, is that ok?
<Mmm, not likely, no... Water chemistry?>
Do I need to test the water?
<Yes>
How often do I need to change it since the bow is so small?
Please help, I just want him to be ok.
Daniela
<Read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm
and the linked files above.
Bob Fenner>

New Betta Owner Needs Help With Tank Setup - 9/3/07
Dear WWM Crew,
I have been reading over the material on the site and am a bit overwhelmed by all the conflicting information I have read on Betta habitats.
<Oh dear.>
I went and purchased a male and a female Betta at a local Petsmart, and also two one gallon tanks with undergravel filters, airstones, and hoods with small lights.
<They tend to be kept apart -- the males do not "play nice" with females in small aquaria. In the wild, the females enter and leave the male's territory at their leisure. In the aquarium, they don't have this option. Result: spousal abuse, dead female.>
I have been changing tanks with Poland Spring water, as our town water had Coliform contamination last year, and as it is still being chemically treated with stuff I don't think is safe, I neither use it, nor will I give it my cat, or the fish.
<Er, probably overkill. A mature aquarium will be filled with all sorts of bacteria, but the "good" bacteria predominate, cleaning the water remarkably effectively. Assuming you treat your water with a decent dechlorinator (one that removes chlorine AND chloramine) the water should be perfectly safe for fish. Coliform bacteria aren't much of a risk to humans in good health (i.e., who aren't immunocompromised). Every time you wipe your backside after defecating, you're exposed to them. So I wouldn't worry too much. Compared to the measurable dangers like, say, getting in a motor car or having a fat/calorie-rich diet, the risk of contracting a life threatening sickness from Coliform bacteria is very small. And certainly NOT a threat to your fish!>
My problem is that I have been changing the tanks every 7 days, removing 1/3 water, saving 2/3, and removing the fish with tank water to container, then rinsing undergravel plate in hot water, rinsing gravel, then tank (acrylic small 1 gallon) and then putting all back together, gravel plate, airstone, then gravel and filling with combo of old water and 1/3 new with small amount of conditioning salt added by diluting it in 1 cup new water then adding it to empty tank, then fish.
<Who told you to do all this stuff? Had they ever kept a live fish in their entire lives? OK, in a tank with an undergravel filter (which is what you seem to have here) you should NEVER, EVER clean the gravel with hot water. The gravel is where the bacteria live, and you want them to be HAPPY. What you're doing is killing them. Very bad. So, leave them alone! Change 50% of the water weekly, but otherwise leave the tank alone. Once in a while stir the gravel with a stick, and siphon out any detritus if you want. But never let the gravel get dry or washed in anything other than aquarium water. EVER. And there's no need to use salt. The ONLY thing you should be adding to the water is dechlorinator. Salt doesn't remove chlorine, kill bacteria, or do any of the myriad things people think it does. It's just salt.>
Now I read that I need heaters and bio-filters in big tanks!
<Yes, you need a heater, unless your home is maintained at a constant 25 C. These are TROPICAL fish, and when kept at less than 25 C, they die. Period.>
Help!!! I am in tiny apartment with cat and have no room for bigger tanks as yet and small budget-have disabled family member who lives with me whose monthly meds run over $1200 per month, what can I do to make these little guys lives better?
<Well, you could save some money by not using mineral water, for a start... A 5-10 gallon tank surely wouldn't take up much more space than a 1 gallon tank, and would be orders of magnitude easier to keep (not to mention a nicer home for your fish).>
They are growing bigger and are active, but don't want to stress them by cold temps, warm in day but down to 68-70 at night and too chilly now that fall is here.
<Too cold.>
By the way, people at petshop said to just keep them in a bowl, that they survive in mud puddles, so temp and ph, etc, is no issue.
<Garbage. Bettas do not live in mud puddles. How would a fish get into one, and why would it want to be in one? Bettas live in ditches, streams, lakes, and so on. Usually among vegetation. Yes, they breathe air, but this isn't because they live in mud but because the water they live in gets very warm, and consequently contains less oxygen than otherwise. It's a back-up system for them, helping them to stay active in conditions other fish find stressful.>
I test pH every 3 days is 6.8-7.0, but will get nitrate, ammonia, nitrite, kit now also.
<You don't *need* all of these. The "big three" in my opinion are nitrite, pH, and general hardness (dH, rather than carbonate hardness, KH). And a thermometer, of course. Your water board may tell you what the hardness and pH of your water supply is, in which case you can "wing it" and rely on the 50% water changes to prevent any untoward pH changes in the aquarium. Bettas will adapt to a wide range of water chemistry values, but like all fish, they don't like sudden changes. So really, if you do that, then the nitrite kit is the only one you need. It's the cat's Pyjamas for tracking water quality, and more useful than either ammonia or nitrate for a variety of reasons.>
Any ideas on tanks/heaters on very tight budget?
Thanks, CJ
<Well, I've told you what you need (and need to do). But a fish is just like any other animal -- at some point, expense is unavoidable. Hope this helps, Neale>

Re: New Betta Owner Needs Help With Tank Setup - 9/3/07
Hi WWM Crew,
<Hello CJ,>
Thanks for the swift reply. No, I don't have them in the same tank, 2 separate 1-1/2 gallon tanks w/undergravel filters & airstones, and thermometers on the tanks the ones that are stick-on strips with temp. range of 64-86. They are in warm part of house, no windows, drafts, nearby but house is cooler in fall so will have to get heaters right away.
<Agreed; while they tolerate a certain amount of temperature variation, the night-time temperature shouldn't drop below much below 22C. In the wild, while air temperature may drop well below that, the water temperature won't, because water is thermally very stable (it tends to lose/gain heat very slowly). The tiny conditions in an aquarium don't replicate this, so fish tanks lose/gain heat much more slowly than anything most fish are adapted to. This is why we need aquarium heaters. By all means switch it down to a low setting in summer, and let your fish enjoy a natural variation in temperature (I do this every summer) but otherwise aim for variation no greater than 22-26C or thereabouts.>
I wasn't concerned about the Coliform, it was over a year ago, but the state mandated the town over chlorinate and add other chemicals to our town water, and it smells like a Clorox bottle when you turn on the tap.
<It's probably fine. Add a good dechlorinator that removes chloramine as well as chlorine. If in doubt, telephone your water board or check their web site. Your water can't be any less "natural" than the water offered in London (famously been through 7 people on average before you drink it!) and fish do fine here.>
Also they had a contamination incident with paint thinner, so given their track record on water safety, we buy bottled for the past few years. I am concerned about giving
it to fish, pets or humans so we buy bottled by the case.
<Well, this is your choice. But if you're asking me, "is the water safe for my fish", the answer is almost certainly yes, provided you treat with a decent dechlorinator. Money saved here (on something at best optional rather than vital) could be spent on essential things like heaters, filters, bigger tanks, etc in due course.>
As far as rinsing the gravel filter plate and gravel, bad info from pet store folks.
<I assumed as much.>
I didn't mean to infer that Bettas could live well in mud puddles, just trying to let folks know the attitude the folks at the pet store have about the creatures they are selling to the public.
<Indeed.>
I had not seen all the info on the site about heated fully cycled tanks before I bought these two, so we will read up and if we can we will get bigger, heated, tanks and let them cycle prior to introducing our fish to them.
<Very good.>
Thank your for your quick reply, CJ
<No problem. Enjoy your fishkeeping. Cheers, Neale>

Strange Fins, Betta, env. dis.    8/30/07
Hello, and thanks ahead for your website!
<Welcome>
I'm the new owner of a male LPS (local pet store) betta. After only about a week-and-a-half, I'm seeing something I haven't found on any of your FAQs. Tai's tail and fins seem to have partially rolled up and come to a point, and the tail has also twisted a bit. There appears to be no discoloration, no tears or scalloping in his fins, his color is good and unchanged as is his appetite. I'm probably watching him 'way too close, because he seems a tiny bit less active. He usually knows when I'm watching and becomes frisky to get attention. Tai is in a 2 and ½ gallon tank with silk plants, smooth bottom gravel and a hidey-hole toy.
<Is this world heated, filtered?>
The temperature is a regular 78 degrees,
<How?>
ph is good,
<What?>
I use Amquel + and Novaqua, and a small amount of salt
<I would not do this continuously>
in the water before he gets it. There's no filter
<Trouble>
in the tank but I've been doing 20-50 percent water changes every other day, and a complete water change once a week.
<Not a good practice>
Of course, we're only talking about less than 2 weeks! I don't want to use the wrong medication, and can't tell if it's bacterial, fungal, or nothing at all. Do you have any ideas?
<All sorts>
Thanks again for any help or reassurance you can give!
Beth Rogers
<Read here: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/bettasysart.htm
and the linked files above.
The environment... likely metabolite poisoning... Bob Fenner>

Re: Strange Fins, Betta  – 08/31/07
Thanks for the reply - I stay confused I guess! I'd thought frequent partial water changes were a good thing.
<Mmm, not this much nor this frequently... Please read where you were referred to>
The temperature is regulated at 78 degrees via a small heater on a timer and a thermometer.
<Good>
The ph is good (I used a test kit) at 7.0 to 7.2,
<Good>
and the ammonia is low (another test kit).
<Should be zero... undetectable. Any present is harmful>
So the problem must be the water changing. Will a filterless tank cycle?
<Yes...>
What is metabolite poisoning?
<Mmm, biological process accumulation that is deleterious to the organisms health>
Thanks again! -Beth
<Welcome! BobF>

Tiny white bugs/crustaceans, FW...  8/29/07
Hi. Hope you can help me with this one!
<Will try.>
I have a 5 gallon freshwater aquarium with a betta fish in it. A few months ago I noticed a few things:
1) tiny white bugs, barely visible to the naked eye, that swim/jump through the water and sometimes scoot along the surface of the glass
<Those are very small insects or insect-like animals. Thrips, collembolans, mites, and so on. Harmless.>
2) tiny things that stick to the glass and plants. They remind me of barnacles more than anything else. They are scale-like, flat, transparent beige in color, and have a small red-orange colored center. They start out as specks on the glass and progressively grow bigger, to about the size of a pin-head. They have a hard outer "shell"....I know because I've been killing them off as best I can ("crunch"), but they continue to multiply.
<Sounds like snails of some sort. Basically harmless.>
3) tiny red-orange bugs that jump/scoot on the surface of the water, which remind me of mites or water spiders or chiggers.
<Again, some sort of harmless arthropod. Quite possible red mites.>
I have no idea what any of these are, and my internet research thus far has not helped. I'm wondering it is it possibly a single organism that I am witnessing at different points in it's life growth cycle??
<No, not really. Aquaria become ecosystems of a sort, and animals in house attracted to warm, damp places congregate on them. Hence you find the same sorts of things on the aquarium as you'll find in the bathroom.>
A few weeks ago I did a major overhaul of my tank. I boiled the gravel, driftwood, and filtration components. I threw away all the plants. I replaced all but about 10% of the water. Two weeks later, there are tons more of the white bugs, and I'm seeing more and more of the "scale" looking things on the glass everyday.
<You can't get rid of them. Remove them, and more will move in from your house. I'm guessing your tank doesn't have a proper filter; these little arthropods don't tend to be such a pest where the surface of the water is agitated by a filter. In "bowl" type situations, the still water surface is a perfect habitat for them. Furthermore, in betta bowls the water tends to have lots of nitrate and organic material in it because the volume is so small, and this encourages the growth of algae and molds. It is these that the little arthropods are feeding on. In bigger tanks with proper filtration, there's less of this stuff, and so the arthropods are less of a big deal.>
These critters are such an EYE-SORE and NUISANCE in my Betta's home. Can you please help me diagnose this infestation and how I can get rid of them?
<You can't. Learn to love them.>
With gratitude,
Shawna B.
<Hope this helps, Neale>

Re: tiny white bugs/crustaceans 8/29/07
Thanks for your response about the critters in my tank. I believe a partial solution would be running the filter more often.....I only currently run it a few hours a day.
<Arghhh! Why are you running the filter only a few hours per day? That's not how you use a filter, and all you're doing is killing off the "good" bacteria every time you switch the power off. A filter should run 24/7 -- end of story.>
Also, I've heard to get rid of snails you can add copper to the water? They are the major eye-sore of the tank. Can you confirm this and suggest any products that accomplish that?
<You heard wrong. Copper is toxic to crustaceans (which you don't have) and to a lesser extent to fish. Snails are largely indifferent to it, and you'll kill the fish long before the snails get bothered by it. Learn to live with them. Remove them by hand if you want. Otherwise just let them be. Snails only increase their numbers in "dirty" tanks. Snails eat leftover food and algae. If there's a surplus of leftover food especially they will turn that into more snails. In a clean tank, they don't have enough food to breed all that quickly. Show me a person with a "snail problem" and I'll show you a person who overfeeds their fishes or doesn't clean their aquaria properly. It's as simple as that: basic laws of physics; without the extra energy from surplus food, the snails could reproduce as quickly. So, take the snails for what they are -- a symptom of another problem. Act accordingly, and you'll find the snail population will gradually decline to the point where you'll view them as harmless additions to your aquarium.>
Thanks again!!
<No problems, Neale.>

Re: tiny white bugs/crustaceans   8/30/07
Hi Neale ~~~
<Shawna,>
Again, I really appreciate your help and advice on the unwanted critters I have. However, I am not sure that a "dirty tank due to overfeeding" is the problem. I have a single betta in a 5 gallon tank, who gets about 4 pellets of betta food twice a day, and eats it all within about a minute. I generally clean the tank every 4 weeks.
<A properly maintained tank shouldn't need "cleaning" this often. Betta bowls are different I admit, but really, it's the water that needs replacing regularly not the tank decorations. Now, as for the role of food, uneaten or otherwise: snails simply cannot multiply in a tank with no food added. Try it yourself some time. Put a few pond snails in a bowl and don't add any food. See how quickly they multiply. They won't. Except maybe for algae, there's nothing for them to eat, and they starve. Basic biology. The reason snails prosper in fish tanks is that the food (and to some degree fish faeces) provides them with high-protein fodder. They multiply at a rate directly proportional to the amount of food available. It really is that simple. Now, it doesn't sound like you're overfeeding your fish, I admit, so perhaps the food source is something else. Decaying plants perhaps?>
I am really stumped....because as I mentioned about 2 weeks ago, I scoured the tank and boiled everything in it (with the exception of the fish of course!) To see such a dramatic re-appearance of the crusty-scale-like critters in such a short period of time.....in a clean tank....with no plants....well, I just don't get it. Believe me, I have seen small aquarium snails before, and what I have looks different. I wouldn't mind a few snails, but these guys are prolific in numbers....still multiplying....and make the tank look sick and infested.
<Need photo. There are very few other shelled invertebrates that live in freshwater. Ostracods perhaps, but they're very distinctive and don't "turn up" announced. Snails are really the only common shelled stowaways in freshwater tanks. Nematodes and flatworms can be a pest, but they're wormy, not snail-like.>
I had no idea I needed to run the filter all day, and I can see now how that could create a stagnant environment for unwanted critters and such. I was not doing so because I thought my betta liked to have calm waters most of the time. I will change that habit immediately. But the snail-scale like things have got to go!!
<OK.>
I plan to clean and scour and boil everything in the tank again, in hopes that I can further reduce or eliminate the problem. If you have any additional thoughts, I would greatly appreciate your feedback.
<Waste of time. Assuming these "critters" got in by themselves and are prospering under whatever conditions you have, my assumption would be if you clean the tank, they'll be back to full strength in a month. So I'd tend to reflect more on filtration, water changes, removal of potential food (dead plants for example) and so on.>
Thanks so much.
Shawna
<Cheers, Neale>

Vitamin and Mineral Pyramid for Betta  8/20/07
Hi WWM Crew,
<Jean, Jean, Bettas are blue... well, some of them.>
Recently, I purchased from a Pet store a vitamin and mineral pyramid made by Aquarium Pharmaceuticals, Inc. I wanted to cut the pyramid in half and put half of it into my 6.6 gallon tank, which is occupied by a Betta and the other half in a 5 1/2 gallon tank which is occupied by three Zebra Danios.
My question is: is this vitamin and mineral pyramid safe to use on a Betta and three Danios? Please give advise. Thanks in advance for your continued help. Jean.
<Mmm, likely so... but also likely unnecessary. Is the water you use mineral deficient? I'd just do regular water changes... Bob Fenner>